Watch Sony's E3 press conference right here

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  I think they are going to announce the PS4. : Finchypoo
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    I don't know man, my money's on a new PS3, maybe a kinect like camera? : Corajitos
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      They are adding rumble to their controllers, and 2 little joystick things. Can't think what game would... : Finchypoo
      • ugh, seriously? when will they realize that the whole 3D thing was just a fad? : Corajitos
    • Nah - it's the Playstation Too. : wfalcon
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  I heard you can watch the stream on your PS3, true or false? : g0nk
  • If you can then they have hidden it away somewhere in the dark recesses. : trelain
• 40 minutes to go! : SlamDunk
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  I am READY : valcan_s
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    Links : http://e3.eu.playstation.com/ http://www.gamespot.com/e3/ea-press-conference http://www... : valcan_s
    • http://www.ustream.tv/ps4 here too : silent77
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    What would make you sit back and go, "wow, I wasn't ready for that."? : Volatus32x
    • Release date July 30th : uglysad
    • Everything : ThrillKill
    • Last Guardian comes out next week on the PS3. : Grumbeld
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      Hmmmmm damn that is a tough question.... If Sony shows a game pimped with crazy Tessellation, high tex : valcan_s
      • Free support and SDK's for indie devs a real cool program, that would do it too. : valcan_s
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      Last Guardian, day one launch title. : Borzoi
      • also new game from the Parappa people :D : Borzoi
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      Being raped. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        just relax, it'll be over soon : Borzoi
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          LOL come on you guys, I am shocked from showing more KI3 gameplay most people took away that and where mo : valcan_s
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            I normally don't get offended over that sort of thing, but the semi-scripted quality of it in the context... : Borzoi
            • The scripts where pretty bad I almost think it be better if the demo peps would just shut up and say noth... : valcan_s
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      No online checks every 24 hours, game rentals allowed. : pyide
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        Yeah if they have no DRM that would blow me away, very good call this ^^^^ : valcan_s
        • Was not ready! : pyide
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    I love how much you've come through today. Props. : brickmatt
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      Agreed. : Volatus32x
      • Signed. Valcan is best shacker. : [fry]
  • Me to Valcan, super psyched! : Nerdsbeware
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  I'm holding my breath for $399... : uglysad
  • $599 AUS for XbOne here. :( : radula
• pizza in the oven, beer has been opened. My face is ready. : ant_hillbilly
• Think they'll mention Last Guardian? : Grumbeld
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  grand theft auto 5 please.... It used to be a playstation exclusive.. please rockstar : error_33
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    I hope not, I am still holding out hope that it will make its way to the PC. : WadeMcLain
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      well nothing was said during microsoft. I'm just craving some info. any PC info on GTA5 would be at PAX : error_33
      • uh. lol? : error_33
    • By PS exclusive I mean GTA3 etc when it was first released : error_33
  • Why would you want to limit the number of people who can enjoy a game? That seems kinda petty. : ColoradoCNC
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  All they have to say "The Last Guardian is a PS4 launch title", and Sony wins. : Masem
  • A $400 price point would clinch it. I'm still surprised that Xbone is set at $500. : Grumbeld
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  NeoGAF is currently down for scheduled maintenance. Please be patient while the site is down. lol, s... : Ambient80
  • yea just overloaded placeholder page. : ant_hillbilly
  • Typical GAF. Always goes down during events, no matter how they say it won't. : SlamDunk
  • yeah it happens all the time at every conference. : smackpiece
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  Alright Sony, my body is ready, my anus prepared, you may enter. : dael
  • Shame that their internet connection isn't :( : pancake humper
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  are they going to show the hardware tonight? : maulla
  • yes : ant_hillbilly
  • Yup : pyide
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  Guy on the PSN Livecast just mentioned The Newell : Goto10
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    stop lying its not nice. : ant_hillbilly
    • Well, it was about nothing really, but he was mentioned once! Twice more is all that is needed! : Goto10
• Okay, let's do it!! I'm really hoping Sony comes out with some kind of indie dev program in the spirit of... : qwpeoriu
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  Uh. geoff just sort of spoiled game of thrones on his little show on gametrailers.com : error_33
  • Good for him. : Fenring42
• here come the spinning flying triangles squares circles and crosses. : gaplant
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  Is there a stream that's less shitty than this ustream one? : Vincent Grayson
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    http://www.gametrailers.com/netstorage/e3/live.html : ant_hillbilly
    • a-->h I'm watching this n0w! : packav
  • http://www.twitch.tv/twitch : dael
  • "I remem---------------------ber watching flow---------------------------------------er. I remeber Journe... : FlamingGimp
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  This stream sucks, its cutting in and out constantly. : winterface
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    yeah, i switched to game trailers because the shack's feed was cutting out too much : qwpeoriu
    • It's not shack's feed. : SlamDunk
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  Sony opens up: "No DRM, launches at $399" *Mic Drop* Walks out. -fin : saunders45
  • I think this ^ we just want better more of the same : packav
  • Shortest press conference ever. : OzzieMejia
  • *Roll the trailers.* : SlamDunk
  • I really want this to not happen not because I care about sony or MS in particular, but just so I have : DeBurgo
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  Turns out Sony now has the rights to several Nintendo franchises so we can expect truly next-generation v... : [fry]
  • Take my money! : D45hiz
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    Frysauce is this tru3??? : packav
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      100% confirmed : gmd
      • wh0a!!!! : packav
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    Nintendo needs to seriously just go software. They'd make an asston more. : Wolfanoz
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      Well if it had worked out better for SEGA they might have gone that route themselves. : WadeMcLain
      • yup. I'm ok with N staying the same. just wish they would release more frequently : hamachi
  • http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_llplwcNyfn1qcm16uo1_500.gif : RyDogg1
  • truthfact. : Liquid
  • CrustaR just texted me: Sony should stick to TVs. : packav
• Lets do this : dael
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  No matter the company, I hate these kind of circle jerk developer talks about how awesome some new hardwa... : Evil Benius
  • I hate them worse when it's a big company because all the smaller ones start thinking it's mandatory to d... : gaplant
• la la la come on get with it : gaplant
• Fucking Rocket Jockey! : FlamingGimp
• Persona when : Fenring42
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  twitch tv is the smoothest stream (because it's just showing a logo right now) : gaplant
  • they were good all day. I know nothing is happening now but you got a link? : pgharavi
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  Ok, I'm seeing some panel talking on GT, nothing on Polygon, and Sony's stream is being crappy. Is it act... : Ambient80
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    still waiting : WadeMcLain
    • Ok cool. :) thx : Ambient80
    • facts are simple and facts are straight : gaplant
  • 5 more minutes. : RuffasBluetain
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    Sony's stream is an Xbone exclusive : zehh
    • Haha :) : Ambient80
• looks like IGN crashed... : chilln
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  Any time now would be nice... : dael
  • Yeah wtf : gmd
  • They're downloading a title update : silent77
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  Live blog showing some activity on stage http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/10/e3-2013-sony-liveblog/ : emacs
  • "Don't you guys fuck up the audio or heads will roll. Heads will roll!" : Dunwich
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  I'm betting $449 for the just-a-console SKU. : Adm.Snackbar
  • that would be a smart move : MikkleThePickle
  • Theyll have a normal and deluxe console with a bigger drive + preinstalled PS3 games. : Wolfanoz
• PLAYSTATION HOME IS DOWN FUCK! lol : pgharavi
• Gary Whitta just tweeted that he is particularly interested in something that is going to be revealed at ... : SolrFlare
• It hasn't even started yet and i'm ready. http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/199/d/0/shut_up_and_t... : Ellissd
• Sony stall = "Ok, no rogue mics, awkward banter and no rape jokes, HIKE!!!" : Wolfanoz
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  CEO Kaz Hirai ‏@KazHiraiCEO 1m Sorry for the delay, we are waiting for the PS4’s firmware to update ... : ashkie
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    hahaha holy shit that is real : mwasher
    • No. : Fenring42
    • Not an obvious parody account, it's real. : pyide
  • Hahaha : armybob
  • Okay that's good. I love companies with a sense of humor. : ColoradoCNC
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  Someone turned on the PS4 and there was an update, two hour delay... : ghost in my shell
  • LOL zing! I hope not this round. : valcan_s
  • Lastest chatty not refreshing is the worst : gmd
• "One minute" : Goto10
• 1 minute : valcan_s
• 1 minute it will be 1 minute later : gaplant
• IT BEGINS! : SlamDunk
• FULLY ENGORGED DO NOT DISAPPOINT SONY : Ambient80
• here come the blue dancing girls : gaplant
• So much blue! : Grumbeld
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  neat : mwasher
  • Start off with a nice epileptic seizure to calm the nerves. : Ambient80
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  Who will be Sony's musical celeb cameo? :P : Borzoi
  • I heard it's Drake : zehh
• With Ps4, everyone will be like a little Daft Punk : gaplant
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  Maybe we'll get new Final Fantasy information. : Grumbeld
  • Will be shown... I hope so. : valcan_s
  • FF10 HD?! : Grumbeld
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  Save your pennies boys and girls, $800 : fishbone
  • (i already feel bad about this joke, I made that up) : fishbone
• DIVE KICK! : TOnez
• I see GTA 5 in there! : Blackdawgg
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  already showing a lot more variety than xbone did : deathofrats
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    christ man just enjoy the ps4 reveal. : D45hiz
    • oh hush up you. don't start this again. : deathofrats
• sony won the stage show competition : mwasher
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  show us the case or be destroyed : gaplant
  • CHOOSE THE FORM OF YOUR DESTRUCTOR = Jack Tretton : Wolfanoz
• SONY = ROCK STARS : valcan_s
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  Don't fuck this up Sony. : surround
  • Too late! : pyide
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  Oh good, I haven't heard "Radioactive" in enough things yet. : OzzieMejia
  • I heard it for the first time today when a student sang it at a talent show. So weird to hear it again h... : Grumbeld
• What a swell guy! : Grumbeld
• WHAT UP YO YO YO : Masem
• stop delaying clayface, show the games. : mista mista
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  the ustream feed is choppy as shit!! its also on twitch, though: http://www.twitch.tv/twitch : maulla
  • Youtube has been the best so far: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmoZAPDV3ew : pyide
  • Youtube is perfect so far https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmoZAPDV3ew : zehh
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    Gametrailers one is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.gametrailers.com/netstorage/e3/live.html : trelain
    • Thanks for the link. : D45hiz
    • That one kept jumping back in time and repeating a few seconds for me while twitch & ustream were straigh... : pyide
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  I love my Vita, I think Sony is just getting started with it : dael
  • Likewise. It's a really nice handheld for sure. : Wolfanoz
• Vita games gets you chicks : gaplant
• PSVita gets you chicks on a plane : Awun
• Counterspy.......... : soggybagel
• TIME TO GET A VITA : Masem
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  So the Vita turns your PS4 into a Wii U? Also, this is ridiculous! Show us the box and tell us the pr... : Grumbeld
  • lol, marketing and PR. : Ambient80
• People who invoke a sense of excitement: not this guy. : omnova
• Yes we can actually, we can talk about the PS4 : FlamingGimp
• Wheeee! lets check out the PS3 games... : Awun
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  Someone please open up some bandwidth! : D45hiz
  • Chloe needs to open some sockets! : BioSector
• PS4 do it come on do it, lets go, show me the goods. : valcan_s
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  this last of us trailer is giving me some big silent hill vibes. : DeBurgo
  • The Road meets Silent Hill : Wolfanoz
  • Game is ace if you have a PS3 it is a must own. : valcan_s
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    someone spoiled it during the live chat on GT :( : rudius
    • that thing really is the worst. I managed to stop paying attention to it. : DeBurgo
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  I'm hoping this means "TWD: 400 days isnt' a Vita exclusive..." : Masem
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    It's definitely not an exclusive. : pyide
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      Well, time-exclusive then. (I forgot it was listed in the steam database). : Masem
      • He would have said exclusive at some point when mentioning it was coming to Vita. He didn't. : pyide
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  Rain <3 : dael
  • Light rain. : Grimmadog
• Metal Gear Ellen Page : DeBurgo
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  Wow, this is *not* what I expected. : Vincent Grayson
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    It's very well done but odd, I think they want to show existing PS3 users they company still cares? ? : valcan_s
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      these are all big first party titles - they might as well sell some games to the captive audience ;) : Borzoi
      • Exactly, good call, Sony knows what they are doing. : valcan_s
    • Microsoft did the same with 360 games before the XB1 stuff. : pyide
  • At least they are pretty much just running a montage and not bringing the developer on stage to talk abou... : cetra00
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  Damn, Beyond looks awesome too. : Wolfanoz
  • Yea, I'm sort of sad I don't have a PS3, I hope some of these games get re-released for PS4. : aethyr
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  it's funny that xbox only showcased one game for the 360, while ps3 has shown a lot of really neat promis... : deathofrats
  • This ^^^ I think they want to blow away MS in every way possible. : valcan_s
• i don't know why but I was laughing by the end of the beyond: two souls trailer : qwpeoriu
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  You know what would make this GT6 thing exciting? Fucking Porsche. : Ellissd
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    There's always Ruf. It's Porsche, but even more awesome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruf_CTR : the archvile
    • Except the whole standard model thing. Yuck. : Ellissd
• GT Damage? : Awun
• #PS4noGaems : Fenring42
• Why do streams get choppy?! Boo! : Grumbeld
• I guess this is the version of GT where they take out all the cars I like. : gaplant
• love that they are using old school amon tobin.. : deathofrats
• Aw they did put in a DeltaWing : gaplant
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  Great conference so far, no cringe worthy shit. Straight to the point, just showing fucking video games : Gylis
  • Amen.... : sticktastic
• C7 vettes!! : gmd
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  How many people did Batman just kill? : Grumbeld
  • seriously what the hell : DeBurgo
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  this guy is boring as shit : maulla
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    Meh, he sounds more genuine than the other yokels : damageundone
    • agreed. : deathofrats
    • I agree, I like him total profesinal, maybe we want that host from Ubisoft LOL : valcan_s
  • he's SCEA's CEO : DeBurgo
  • He should be naked : GloriousCow
  • No worse than the dudes on the XB1 show, in fact I prefer his style of presenting, straight to the point,... : dael
  • Best one yet, at least it's not embarrassing to watch : Gylis
• there needs to be a 60's Batman GAME. :D It's been too long since Freedom Force for me. : Borzoi
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  lol cheers for exclusive skins : pyide
  • Yeah, that was really sad. : Grumbeld
• Here we go..... : Wolfanoz
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  $299 for the game, a PS3 and the headphones? : Goto10
  • Yeah, that's what I thought I heard, too. If so, it will be my first console preorder since... ever? : Ride-My-Rocket
  • yup, too bad I already own a PS3. If not I guess it would be worth it? : WadeMcLain
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  Nice game info, but where is the PS4 news and games. : Awun
  • Right here : dael
• i like their music choices so far... : chilln
• Here we go! : Grumbeld
• god dammit I hope mark cerny shows up, that dude can talk. : DeBurgo
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  smaller than xbox, but just as ugly : maulla
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    Are you kidding?! That looks amazing! : Grumbeld
    • It should be a cylinder : GloriousCow
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    Yeah, it's not pretty. : Ride-My-Rocket
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      you guys are ridiculous : mwasher
      • What? It's not going to win any design awards. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Yeah not exactly pretty but it'll do. : surround
  • I was going to say it looks a lot like an Xbox One. : Evil Benius
  • why are all the consoles looking more and more like shit : Jikim
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  ITS AN XBOX ONE MINI : wurt
  • Hahah yeah. : Rauol Duke
  • It's an XBox One that got run over. : BlackCat9
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  kinda looks like a slanty xbone : qwpeoriu
  • No pun intended : Wolfanoz
• Ohh, I like. : Ambient80
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  Damn, I think it looks good. : Ellissd
  • Aye. : Volatus32x
• Sexy, reminds me of the PS2 vertical. : dael
• Slanty Xbone! : sergeon
• thing looks nice and small, but lol at the two tone gloss and matte like the XB1. : pyide
• A much more elegant design than the xbone, IMHO. : atomx_xmota
• lol, so its a 2 tone box. why do people care what it looks like? : AllYourBase
• nice - i love the look - like a stacked & skewed ps2 slim : Borzoi
• that angular design is ... weird? I'd like it to look like the current beta kits TBH. :D : BioSector
• "It's BEAUTIFUL"] Blue Steal PS4 HOT! : valcan_s
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  Is that a trapazoid? : xylothan
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    A rhombus. : atomx_xmota
    • I just saw the screen shot and you're right. That's a strange design -- want to see it in person. : xylothan
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallelepiped : pyide
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  shockingly smaller than i thought it was going to be.. : deathofrats
  • Yes, suspiciously even : dael
  • Yeah, me likes it. : zehh
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    Agreed! I am impressed by it's small footprint, but I'm worried about heat... : Empyric
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      After market cooler... it's kept my chubby PS3 alive. : Wolfanoz
      • Not turning it in has kept my PS3 alive. : Endymion_
• And its a black box! : baron calamity
• ugly! : pgharavi
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  lol they both look the same : derelict515
  • the ps4 kinda looks like an xbone revision from 3 years in the future, just for size reasons : veras
• My stream is low bit rate, is he holding an Xbox one? : Strid3rtheGreat
• PS4 looks nice, but the jump from slim consoles at the end of one gen to huge consoles at the start of th... : aethyr
• Glad to see it doesn't have big ugly chrome vents on it like I was expecting from their teaser. : cetra00
• sexy system : zombie man
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  odd, they did not show any connection ports. like it's not finished. : Awun
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    My fear as well, I have a feeling they won't make a holiday release : dael
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      "Later this year" : zehh
      • Don't jinx it! : dael
  • It'd be funny if the PS4 case design team held out for Microsoft to show their poker hand first. The bac... : the archvile
  • http://cdn3.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/8364759/console6_verge_super_wide.jpg : BioSector
• Haha ok it's a slabby box. Better than the PS3 original! : gaplant
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  OH NO HES TALKING ABOUT STUFF OTHER THAN GAMES EVERYBODY RAGE!!! : maulla
  • Playstation 4 TV TV TV TV TV TV Move TV TV TV... : BlackCat9
  • RAGE!!! : Jikim
  • It's painful to see them given themselves blowjobs. : surround
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  This guy is terrible at reading teleprompters. : zehh
  • HORRIBLE. : Goto10
  • I feel bad for him, I hope he does not pass out. : valcan_s
• that console is sexy : pancake humper
• PS4 All in one entertainment system : wurt
• Looks pretty terrible. : cruncht1me
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  At least they have Community and Justified up on that TV logo. : Grumbeld
  • Though the movie shout outs were pretty horrible. : Grumbeld
• jack white wooo : deathofrats
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  WHERE ARE MY GAMES!? MSFT and SNE have switched conferences haha : pgharavi
  • Had a feeling that would happen after they blew their games wad in the initial announcement. : pyide
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    Theyre not spending as much time on it. Its been 5-10 minutes. : Wolfanoz
    • I know, and I jest...but this for splay better lead to something good wolfie!!!! : pgharavi
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  lil faster, Sony, going limp.. : Goto10
  • Yeah, that dude was a momentum-killer. : Ride-My-Rocket
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  They keep talking about curating the content for gamers, I can only feel like we are going to facepalm ov... : Evil Benius
  • or just not actually say anything at all : derelict515
• Games, but show them to me. : Ambient80
• I like the look, it's more interesting than the XBone but not as gaudy as the current gen. Surprisingly... : Begawkiness
• What the hell is "the type of entertainment gamers want and love"? I'm pretty sure that is codeword for ... : aethyr
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  Is this guy a terrible speaker or what? : Vincent Grayson
  • Could you do better? : ashkie
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  tv, movies, tv, tv, tv, pictures. moving pictures, tv. : chilln
  • It's just as bad here as it was in the Xbone conference. : aethyr
• i kinda checked out for the music and movie stuff.... : grendel
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  I thought gamers liked the same movies and tv that everyone else did. : Tincan
  • Yea, like unless they're distributing old foreign films, I don't really care. : aethyr
• zzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZ : qwpeoriu
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  Sony " here's our tv portion, it's 3 minutes long, suck it xbox" : deathofrats
  • More like 10 minutes, but yeah.. : daniel_h
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  goatse : Lawgiver
  • I'm so glad I'm not the only one that sees that. : Ormsbee
• Where GIF KAZ!? Make this funny! : pgharavi
• Nice! That looks like it could take flight : Pneum0
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  Still no HBO Go? : pyide
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    i suspect MS has that locked up tight! : grendel
    • I hope not. :( : freshyk
• Bad time to mention Verizon. : Grumbeld
• i do not like goatse hands delivering me my media : maulla
• I just keeping those hands are starting a Goatse : ashkie
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  We are being reversed goatse'd : ghost in my shell
  • That's the view from inside... : surround
  • Wish I had that clip that Klerck made with the stick figure dancing in goatse that zooms out to reveal. : Wolfanoz
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  I'm thrilled by their commitment to provide gamers with things that aren't games. : omnova
  • Pulling a microsoft right now..... : Haku-Jin
  • Oh fuck off. : eonix
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  where is every ones rage, over TV, TV, Movies, Sports, TV, Music. : WadeMcLain
  • I have about 60 seconds before I start losing my shit : pgharavi
  • It was a few minutes...as opposed to the entire microsoft one : sticktastic
  • I'd rage if I wasn't half asleep. : surround
  • It ended in less than an hour and now they are getting to games and whatnot. : Rauol Duke
  • Over an hour is not the same as about ten minutes. : Ambient80
  • Seem to be the right amount of focus. : baron calamity
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  11 minutes in tv and movies. hope you guys made it through ok. whew. : mwasher
  • nope. preorder canceled. the world is over! : maulla
• There we go.. back to the games. : zombie man
• Haha "Playstation Gamers" is becoming Microsoft's "Xbox Experience." : cetra00
• I think they spent less time talking about the entertainment stuff than Microsoft did, but I could be wro... : Grumbeld
• #WhereAreTheGamesBro /s : error_33
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  soo exicitederuu to be hereuuuuu uuuuu : wurt
  • Don't make fun of his accent... DID HE JUST SAY TITTER?! : Grumbeld
• This guy's more alive than Tretton is. : Wolfanoz
• Finally, crazy Japanese devs, let the crab attacks begin! : aethyr
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  Did they just play a Susumu Hirasawa track? : ThrillKill
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    Sounded like a sped up sleepyhead by passion pit. Maybe a remix. : pyide
    • Yea it was a odd remix. : Nerdsbeware
    • I stand corrected : ThrillKill
• play that passion pit song from 2 years ago just play it sped up! : gaplant
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  For shits & giggles I tried to watch the live conference with my Vita. It's not possible via the browser... : Wombat Woo
  • worst thing about these presentations, people on stage struggling to speak English. : jabuck
• The worst is when the presenter pauses hoping for applause and all you hear is silence. : Ellissd
• use social media to see that everyone wants to see games : gaplant
• "Hey, there's an internet!" : Masem
• 12 new IPs! That beats Microsoft's 11. : Grumbeld
• $499 and I'll preorder right now. : Haku-Jin
• Here we go you weirdo nonsense story making Japanese beauties! : Rauol Duke
• In engine, mommy! : dael
• ooh more knights templar themed games, we dont have enough of those yet : gaplant
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  Latest chatty erroring out on loading a thread is so fucking annoying I swear to god : gmd
  • It always has issues with threads posted by the Shacknews account. If it's not erroring out on load, y... : pyide
• cool a ripper game? : chilln
• Call of Duty: Dear Watson : Wolfanoz
• british tom selleck is the stagecoach driver : DeBurgo
• Knights Templar vs Jack the Ripper vs Alan Moores right testicle : gaplant
• I'll take it : dael
• Call of Lycanthropes: Victorian Warfare : aethyr
• 2013 return of the railgun : wurt
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  Werewolves in London. : jra101
  • awooooo : gaplant
• Holy shit that looks awesome : zombie man
• left 4 jack the ripper looks good : deathofrats
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  ok I'm impressed by the atmosphere in that : indosauros
  • Yeah, can't say anything about gameplay, but they've piqued my interest. : Conan
• Steam Punk wearwolves jack the ripper hunter sim Looks cool! : Awun
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  Is this a sequel to Dishonored? : ashkie
  • it was kind of underwhelming. : burning eye
• Universe looks interesting, but I hoped for a little gameplay after the trailer. : Evil Benius
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  Nocturne 2 : Makenxero
  • WHAT. : Fenring42
• was that a gamecube logo :P : gaplant
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  was drive club all blocky, or just me? : Awun
  • yea. and the textures were bad. I hope it was the stream. : wurt
  • The gametrailers stream when from HD to SD during drive club for some reason... : Grimmadog
  • From the video compression? Seemed fine, though still very washed out looking. : pyide
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  Shootyman and vroom vroom games its gotta be about time for a Tolkein type game. : Rauol Duke
  • Hahaha you called it. : Rampancy
  • there you go : chepito_
• More like the Snorder. : cornchak
• The new Killzone styling is so much better than past games. ...Still just another FPS though. : cetra00
• The Order looks good! : baron calamity
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  Love me some Infamous, looks good too : Goto10
  • I love how recognizable sites in Seattle are. : Masem
  • Those faces were crazy. : Rauol Duke
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  Do people play infamous? : cornchak
  • I feel the same way about Killzone. : DeBurgo
  • Yes, because they were awesome : Dimmona
• Mmmmm... Grunge. : Grumbeld
• infamous looks awesome!! : grendel
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  the main character of that infamous game seems like a huge d-bag : DeBurgo
  • So they're sticking with their strengths. : Grumbeld
  • It's the hat : Volatus32x
  • \It's def an infamous game then : Boxelder
  • Games looks awesome, but I hope I don't hate the main character. : WadeMcLain
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    My thoughts exactly, game looks cool but God damn do I hate that character already. At least they've pr... : Begawkiness
    • I though thats the point to infamous, be an arsehole or be the good guy. You choose. : Vincenoir
• Killzone looks prettier than the last time we saw it. : zombie man
• Voice acting in that infamous trailer was really good. : Strid3rtheGreat
• salright : gaplant
• They're showing some pretty genre of games, more so than Microsoft I think. Still, nothing I'm super e : zehh
• Here ya go Raoul... this looks good. : Wolfanoz
• Emotion Engine 2.0 : Blackdawgg
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  Fantasy game from Quantic Dream, I'm sold : dael
  • fuuuu : dael
  • Ooooooh! :-D : ColoradoCNC
• It is Aku from Samurai Jack! : Crimsonbeak
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  I wish this wasn't a tech demo and was an actual game :( : wurt
  • crazy facial animations though wow : wurt
• return of creepy old guy simulator! : Awun
• Well, I guess now we know where that disembodied head demo came from. : Conan
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  this old guy has a flair for the dramatic : qwpeoriu
  • Bit of a Ben Kingsley there. : ThrillKill
• LOLLLLL! : Wolfanoz
• hahaha this alone, so much better than MS : indosauros
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  bahahahaa Quantic Dream <3 : Borzoi
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    What did they do? Is it better than SHAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!? : the archvile
    • They broke the forth wall : zehh
• lol wtf : zehh
• that was pretty good : maulla
• omg lol what is going on here : Goto10
• holy shit that was in realtime? : mwasher
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  Uncanny Valley. : Grumbeld
  • The little dude is freaking me ouuuttt.. : Goto10
• Japan you so crazy man. : Rauol Duke
• Haha, that was cute. : LoioshDwaggie
• Absolutely incredible Quantic Dream demo. : SlamDunk
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  Hah, that was fun. Dunno wtf it was, but it was neat. : Ambient80
  • I swear when the guy was yelling I heard Westeros, and was immediately like WTF?? Then I heard Azmodan an... : Ambient80
• aw that was cute : gaplant
• impressive : Gylis
• BEST TRAILER EVER : Masem
• Wow... : daniel_h
• Broken English from Japanese devs and execs is always more charming than PR speak from english accented d... : soggybagel
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  So...Quantic Dream is practicing some kind of dark sorcery, right? How that fuck was that realtime? : Vincent Grayson
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    i think just the first half was in-game. otherwise I don't know wtf is going on anymore : indosauros
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      The whole thing was real-time in-engine. : SlamDunk
      • well then, now I need a 1080 link to watch it again : indosauros
• That was fucking hilarious! : Strid3rtheGreat
• Wow, that was great. : Danny5225
• that was phenomenal.... o_O : chilln
• Team? Not Phil Fish. Oh, super giant games? Awesome! : Grumbeld
• YEEESSS. someone that can speak English : jabuck
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  oh shit the SGG guys : DeBurgo
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    Fuck don't make Transistor a time-exclusive... : Masem
    • Oh good, "console debut". PC version in clear. : Masem
  • The D&B influence on most of the music they have showed in Transistor is fantastic. : cetra00
• I totally dug that, really fun. : Nerdsbeware
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  MS spent a total of 20 seconds on something resembling indie games. I love this. : dael
  • Amen. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    Phil Harrison made a quote similar to "No one is more authentic than Kid Rock!" earlier today: http://www... : the archvile
    • Well the 360 kinda started the whole indie scene on consoles, didn't it? : MaxPete82
• Maybe this is the trouble with them showing to much at the reveal, nothing new so far. : yoshimi20
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  This looks AMAZING. Holy shit this art. : zehh
  • Agreed, that looked way cool. : daniel_h
• Transistor GOTY whenever it comes out. : mwasher
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  Wow, that looks fantastic. : Vincent Grayson
  • Yep, very, very pretty. : Ride-My-Rocket
• That Supergiant Games main character was carrying around a HUGE thumbdrive. : silent prophet
• super vanillaware games? : gaplant
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  okay Sony "self-publish" what does that mean : DeBurgo
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    It means fuuuuuuuu green light : damageundone
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      these are probably not games that would have trouble getting past greenlight. : DeBurgo
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        Not after the latest stories, those games are almost all pre green lit already : damageundone
        • not sure what you mean, I think that was my point? : DeBurgo
  • These games are way more interesting than another Killzone or Infamous. : pandastrong
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    It probably means they don't need a partnership with a traditional (retail-pushing) publisher, like Micro... : zehh
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      did MS really have that requirement for XBLA? none of this really seems like that much of a change fro... : DeBurgo
      • also what I'm really holding out for is something that will allow some sort of open or inexpensive dev ki... : DeBurgo
• LOVE the visual style on one. much more variety so far for Sony than for MS? : indosauros
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  DON'T STARVE ON PS4! : Ride-My-Rocket
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    My wife wants a PS4 now. : Rauol Duke
    • Yesssss : Volatus32x
    • Your wife is a good man. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • and MS alienates another wonderful indie developer : veras
• Okay, this is rad with them showing off more indie developers! : Grumbeld
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  Xbox is shooting themselves in the foot by not supporting indie devs like sony is. : deathofrats
  • i highly doubt that : maulla
  • people would just say "why isn't this on the 360 not worth $500 to play this, paid off devs" : derelict515
• lol octodad : dael
• OCTODAD!!!!!! : DrFlammable
• Going after the indies for real. Nice move! : Conan
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  OMG, how have I not heard about Mercenary Kings? : aethyr
  • YES YES YES , it was a Kickstarter project, but this is awesome! : Masem
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  octodad! no way : gaplant
  • "While historically accurate, this does not contain any giant enemy crabs." : Masem
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  TL;DW: We support indie all the way : Wolfanoz
  • OMG Oddworld! : Wolfanoz
• ODDWORLD?! OH SHIT! : Grumbeld
• Fatal Frame! Oddworld stuff! : gaplant
• Awesome : dael
• love the indie showcase. well done. : thebigbeefsandwich
• sony has won my money. where do i sign? : mwasher
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  I'm really happy that they're showing off indie developers so prominently. : DrWaffles
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    I get some much more excited about seeing these small "cheap" games than most AAA games. : aethyr
    • Same here. Highlight of the presentation for me so far. : zehh
• PS4, you just made me genuinely smile. : Grumbeld
• Galaxy, I want it now. : gaplant
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  aaaand MS lost the skulls of the shogun dev too : veras
  • Maybe not. He made sure to say console debut on PS4, not exclusive. : pyide
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    The way they are wording it, things sound like some are only timed exclusives. : Evil Benius
    • yeah, hard to tell which are which : veras
• the only games that piqued my interest in that presentation were some of the indie games : qwpeoriu
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  No transistor on pc? shitty : Gylis
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    Huh? They just said "console exclusivity on PS4" meaning it will come out on PC. : aethyr
    • Ah, cool. I was worried there for a sec : Gylis
  • No, they said exclusive console debut. Nothing in that affects PC. : Conan
• That Galaxy' 2d sidescroller looked pretty hot. : Pneum0
• Sony is killing it, Ms seems so tone deaf in comparison : JohnathanDoe
• Ok sony, shut up and take my money!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : baron calamity
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  BUNGIE! : Grumbeld
  • Oh... Square-Enix... I'm sure Bungie will be coming up. : Grumbeld
• blizzard you're dead to me, DEAD!!!!! : wurt
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  You'll use those exclusive Diablo 3 items for exactly 4 minutes : silent prophet
  • I think I sold the Gearbox guns in BL2 in no time. : Wolfanoz
• Like slapping two pieces of meat together : FlamingGimp
• VERSUS!?!? : pgharavi
• SGG just affirmed that Transistor will debut BOTH on the PS4 and the PC/STeam. http://supergiantgames.... : Masem
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  Final FantazzzzzzzzZZzzzzz : pancake humper
  • What the hell happened to Versus XIII?! I thought that looked like the more interesting one back when XI... : the archvile
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  Has there been any DRM talk? : SlingBlaze
  • They've said that it's up to devs before. : Fenring42
  • Nope, and from the tone of the show there probably won't be. I'm guessing they'll release a statement wel... : pyide
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  HUGE props to indie devs for releasing so much goodness that a company like Sony sat up and took notice. ... : SLUDGE^
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    Adam Boyes is perfect for that position. I bet he has had a lot to do with the success of the new stance. : pancake humper
    • As an indie who has met him at an event, I can say that he an awesome dude in the right job. : SLUDGE^
  • This is exactly the read I got off MS from that press event a few weeks ago. MS doesn't care about indies... : Masem
  • Yeah, pretty much. : Nitrium
• omg please be a single player non-linear JRPG : indosauros
• Sony is doing a great job tonight, even my wife is sitting here watching this. She got bored of the MS pr... : winterface
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  This is not the Final Fantasy anyone wants to play. : ashkie
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    THERE ARE NO SUITS AND TIES IN MY FINAL FANTASY : ashkie
    • record scratch : ashkie
• Some gameplay, sweet. : dael
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  Holy shit this FF game looks amazing : wurt
  • This looks to be a system seller. : mugwet
  • Looks like Final Fantasy meets God of War. : BlackCat9
  • It looks pretty dope. : shirif
  • Hell yeah : zombie man
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  Did they just turn Final Fantasy into an Action RPG? That could be kind of rad. : Grumbeld
  • I think that was the idea with versus for years. But it never came out. : pgharavi
• this is terrible : qwpeoriu
• oh my god : mwasher
• A good looking Final Fantasty XV? Hmmm. : Ride-My-Rocket
• haha FF XV might as well, I guess. : DeBurgo
• And there it is. FF15 : cetra00
• final devil may fantasy xiii, interesting.. : deathofrats
• Fucking YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!! : OzzieMejia
• Kingdom Hearts III?!? : Ride-My-Rocket
• Wow, was not expecting that : zombie man
• omgomgomgomgomg : mwasher
• Hey what do you know, Square still knows hot to get me rock hard. : Vincent Grayson
• lol cross-gen. : shirif
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  that blond lady did NOT like that FF14 was coming out on ps3 and ps4 at the same time. : wurt
  • hahahah I noticed the same thing. : pgharavi
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  KINGDOM HEARTS 3. : TheVietSpecial
  • FUCK. : TheVietSpecial
• Still crossing the fingers for Last Guardian... : Masem
• Fuck my 3G phone connection. Hurryap, bus! : yAak
• AssIn? : aethyr
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  I didn't hear anyone say exclusive for either FF15 or KH3 : veras
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    Franchises that big, unlikely they would be. : Ellissd
    • yeah, just when Versus was announced I think it was originally a PS3 exclusive despite FF13 being crosspl... : veras
  • It would be insane for square enix to do so for US/Euro markets. : pgharavi
  • Probably because they won't be. :D : BioSector
  • Right now is 11:15 AM in Japan, so consider the secondary target audience. Has Microsoft said anything : the archvile
  • If they said exclusive, I would have been on-board with the PS4 at that moment. :/ : CA Flynn
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  AssCreed froze hehe : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Yeah looks to need some more QA. : cetra00
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    I've never gotten into these games. I've bought like 3 of them and never got hooked. : Rauol Duke
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      Then stop buying them??? : Fenring42
      • You're not the boss of me! >:( : Rauol Duke
    • Same here : sticktastic
    • They are pretty boring : pandastrong
    • I hated the controls in the second one and never cared about that series again. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • that chick is sweating bricks right now hoping the game doesn't hard lock on her hahaha : wurt
  • wasnt sure if it was my feed or not... "i hear sounds..." : chilln
  • Yeah, same. Thought my pc was acting up. : shirif
  • LOL.... ouch! : Wolfanoz
  • Well, at least you know it's not pre-rendered. : BlackCat9
  • Live demo ladies and gentlemen :( : dpgagnon
• Where's Henry Rollins?? : pandastrong
• Drunk Simulator : zehh
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  looks gorgeous : mwasher
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    holy shit GMD looks at this!! : mwasher
    • AssPirates! The vegetation is hella nice : gmd
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  Are you non pc gamers impressed with these graphics? Maybe it's because I have a high end PC and forget ... : Rahzar
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    It's hard to tell on the streams but the overall IQ looks to be much higher and the games look a lot dens... : cetra00
    • hopefully it's the stream. Textures should be getting a gigantic jump. : Rahzar
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    The Quantic Dream demo is a huge jump and so is the Deep Down demo. : SlamDunk
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      ok, i just joined the stream so I missed those. : Rahzar
      • but I love quantic dream, so I'm glad to here they have something coming. : Rahzar
  • im playing farcry 3 on xbox 360 right now, it looks like shit : Jackass1233
  • AC4 is a cross-gen game. : shirif
  • You can't really tell from a compressed stream. It does look better than ps3. Especially in animation. : baron calamity
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    So far everything can easily be done a medium PC, looks great but yeah it not like OMG! that is if you ar... : valcan_s
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      Sure, but at least the median quality will go up for ports, which still benefits us PC gamers. : Conan
      • Exactly ^^^^ this the new console is MASSIVE positive for PC gaming and console gamers that want to final... : valcan_s
    • Well hopefully it will allow new games to push our PCs harder. Only 280 more spots until my step up to d... : Rahzar
  • Not judging anything until HD direct feed youtube videos or something comes out. : pancake humper
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  I love ASS : valcan_s
  • This is so fucking akward. : ashkie
  • This needs to be the featured post on the home page STAT. : Ormsbee
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  speed schooner? lol : Borzoi
  • haha, yes : daniel_h
  • That ship was booking ass for not having any sails : GloriousCow
  • The ships in AC3 did control like giant jet-skis. I couldn't get into it :( : pyide
• So... is that a live demo, or a hitching up recording? : Grumbeld
• Heads will roll for this garbage collection : zehh
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  Wow that is kind of embarrassing. : Evil Benius
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    I'd rather see a live demo hitch up like that than prerecorded action. : mwasher
    • ^^. I don't mind that it crashed at all : smacknca
    • agreed. Still looked good. Release is still months away, they have time to work on bugs and quirks and st... : daniel_h
• QA TEAM FIRED : indosauros
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  Ahhh awkward...... : valcan_s
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    I would rather see real gameplay with some hitches than bullshot trailers any day! : silaslang
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      Oh 100% I was not bashing it I feel bad for the team that is all, I hate pre recorded or CG stuff. Man... : valcan_s
      • Agreed! They will iron all of the wrinkles out, those peeps will bring it! : silaslang
• Ouch, embarrassing : dael
• Ultra fired : Begawkiness
• lol : chepito_
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  lol keeps hitching..is this on source? : deathofrats
  • haha the audio repeating glitch definitely reminded me of Source games : Empyric
• oops!! : qwpeoriu
• Wuh whoooooaaaaaa.. : Goto10
• lololol, gj ubisoft : zombie man
• LolBisoft. : shirif
• Whoops. : Rauol Duke
• ahhahaha : loppsided
• wow did you see the guy's head just drop when it froze? : xylothan
• ok, looks Asscreed 4 looks nice. move on : baron calamity
• You had ONE job. : ant_hillbilly
• hahah that guy was really wanting to get off the stage. : burning eye
• somebody just got fired... lol : chilln
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  And that's why you see pre-recorded videos at these sort of things. : Ellissd
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    Respect for giving the hardware a go though. : dael
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      I rather see this with glitches than slick canned demos : baron calamity
      • Yep, same here. : Conan
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  ouch....looks like some over heating!! : okellyc
  • ...or just another Buggysoft game. : SlamDunk
• "GUNPOINT DID IT!" : Masem
• hmm.. still haven't got the "everything is too shiny" thing down yet. maybe next-next-gen? : indosauros
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  I am so hard for watchdogs. : Ormsbee
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    This game looks insane. : Rauol Duke
    • Oh yeah : Volatus32x
    • Probably gonna get game of the show, cool thing it is multi platform. : valcan_s
• Stealth driving, yeah! : Grumbeld
• Man I can not wait to play Watch Dogs : valcan_s
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  finally a guy named TBone that isn't black. : deathofrats
  • http://shirtoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/t-bone-george-costanza.jpg : aethyr
  • Castanza : jake
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  Watchdogs: training the next generation of NSA voyeurs : Empyric
  • what's the pad device someone is using? will you be able to download an app and let your girlfriend help... : deathofrats
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  The production values on these games, amazing, I almost fail to see how these can be profitable. : dael
  • That kinda scares me as well but ubi has gotten really good at attacking these large projects. : baron calamity
  • No used games, probs. : Fenring42
  • that's why they have to release on every platform imaginable in most cases : derelict515
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  This game looks pretty fucking cool. : Danny5225
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    Looks Matrix-ish : baron calamity
    • + person of interest : Snuffles-
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  These are the same guys that did sleeping dogs right? : Rahzar
  • nope, though it looks similar. : shirif
• First game I've seen all day that's made me excited. : owly
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  I am so hard for this game. : Masem
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    NBA??... : shirif
    • Watch Dogs. : Masem
• Even deeper ball handling ahead. : DeBurgo
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  it looked like someone was using a tablet to interact with that Watch Dogs demo, what's up with that? : Mmmmmoo
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    The game allows another player to assist you if they're playing the mobile version. : LoioshDwaggie
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      this would work on the PC version too? any details released outside this sony presentation? : Mmmmmoo
      • Not yet, but yes, PC also. I don't know if the game versions talk to each other (PS4/PC) : LoioshDwaggie
  • I saw that as well : Volatus32x
  • It was when he called for help from "mobile player" Someone on a tablet helped out. : BioSector
  • new systems have alot of tablet app integration. so u can be playing a solo game on tv, and your buddy ca... : chilln
• I hate 2K LeBron more than real LeBron. : Grumbeld
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  haha the facial animation was horrible : maulla
  • ahah yeah : shirif
• nice, ps4 got my exclusive bron bron content : DrFlammable
• Watch Dogs looks surprisingly awesome. Awesome pretty. : atom519
• And its time to get a snack. : baron calamity
• uuuuughhh..digital lebron looks like ass..his face is made out of rubber : deathofrats
• Can real life LeBron eat a basketball because I'm pretty sure his digital version could. : aethyr
• TES online? : shirif
• The Order trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdcXjOfiLsg : SlamDunk
• Still no Destiny reveal. Are they saving the best for last? : Grumbeld
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  Man, there's nothing about Elder Scrolls Online that i really care about or see interesting. : burning eye
  • Same, just have not been impressed with anything they showed of it so far. : Nerdsbeware
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  so what's the chance that ESO is not just more-of-the-same tired MMO quest-fetch gameplay : indosauros
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    0.04% : pyide
    • I think you're being generous. Although how much of Skyrim wasn't quest-fetch? : aethyr
  • UNCHARTED 4 PLS; THANKS. : pgharavi
  • Negative 10000000000000000000000000% : Rauol Duke
• Dumbledore in Elder Scrolls online haha! (his voice at least) : Empyric
• Man I hope TES online is good, been looking forward to it. : zombie man
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  Huh so consolers are going to get MMOs that is pretty cool. : valcan_s
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    There was Everquest on PS2. I remember bcs I got the beta. : pgharavi
    • And FF online, I meant seems like more are going to make it to them. Heck the DC had Phantasy Star Onl... : valcan_s
• lfg need tank :( ugh no thx I want single player elder scrolls : Lawgiver
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  Fallout 4? There's no way, right? : Grumbeld
  • Looks like it. They seem to be going in publisher order. : cetra00
  • I knew I should have guessed Mad Max. : Grumbeld
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  Mad Max? : Evil Benius
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    Looks just like it oh there's the car : Goto10
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      I guessed it with the shotgun and hairdo. : shirif
      • I guessed it because I know that leg brace haha. : Evil Benius
  • What the WHAT? : ThrillKill
• fallout? : Blackdawgg
• Mad Max? : Wolfanoz
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  Mad Max! : shirif
  • Holy shit. This *could* be good... : zehh
• WTF that dude just dropped valcan_s off in that desert : wurt
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  Fuck, this looks like ....Mad Max! : Conan
  • sweet! I'm sold : hamachi
• fallout 4? rage 2? : deathofrats
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  8O : Rauol Duke
  • IAWT8O : Volatus32x
• That wasn't Fallout 2 2. Fuck this shit. : Junktown
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  SO most of these games are multi-plat then? : WadeMcLain
  • Curse of the Xbox : Fenring42
• Ok Jack where are my blockbusters. : pgharavi
• Avalanche are the Just Cause guys, yeah? : pyide
• Guys, guys. I'm pretty excited for PS4. : Nitrium
• Sooo... price..? : baron calamity
• OH MY GOD 8D : LoioshDwaggie
• haha the crowd reaction to used games. amazing. : DrFlammable
• and SONY WINS! : atomx_xmota
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  Hah, that crowd reaction. MS needs to rethink this. : Conan
  • I'm sure the *publishers* are probably happier with Microsoft's stance though : zehh
• C'mon dude, give us the price. : zehh
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  oh shit it just got real : Ellissd
  • twisting the knife, ahaha : Ellissd
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  BOOM! There's the headshot! No restrictions on used games. : Grumbeld
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    Yeah, but the *PS4* won't. Publishers still can do it if they chose to I think that's what they said. : zehh
    • That's what Microsoft said : furiouschuck
• There we go : Tincan
• SONY Headshots Microsoft. USED GAMES!!! : afrochops
• kick some ass Sony : indosauros
• and there it is : Borzoi
• haha, roaring applause after that comment. GOOD! : qwpeoriu
• haha welp. that's it for MS. : DeBurgo
• Drops mic and leaves crater. : Rauol Duke
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  Oh shit. : pgharavi
  • HAHAHAHA. HOLY SHIT : pgharavi
• And there's the bomb.. hope there's no asterisk. : TK-421
• I wonder if they decided that after the backlash MS got : dael
• And sold. : Vincent Grayson
• Bomb just drooped on used games it is 100% open : valcan_s
• BOOM. There it is. : daniel_h
• Fucking sick burn : ashkie
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  Boom! : zombie man
  • ROCKED : zombie man
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  Wow, was not expecting that. : pyide
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    Does this mean the games won't require an install, thus need the disc in the drive and / or be slow to lo... : pyide
    • Because in theory I actually like the Xbox model over the PS3's half-assed maybe a game installs some dat... : pyide
• lol the crowd : thebigbeefsandwich
• FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!! : damageundone
• sony wins : veras
• boom headshot : JINKY
• Shot over the bow, holy shit : Danny5225
• WHAT did anyone else see that championship wrestling belt some guy in the audience held up? : DrFlammable
• Sony just announced they won. : deathofrats
• Meanwhile at Microsoft... : omnova
• I'm pretty surprised they went into DRM, and by saying "doesn't support DRM" that leads me to believe it ... : aethyr
• Droppin' BOMBS now!! : Pneum0
• boom headshot : ant_hillbilly
• No always on either.... c'mon $400 price point! : Grumbeld
• Fucking sad you need a powerpoint slide for that in this day and age. Also MS is getting fucking owned... : ghost in my shell
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  Tyler J Smith posted a new article, Sony's PS4 saves Shacknews.com and Gamefly. : TylerJSmith
  • lmfao : zombie man
  • Awesome :) : pgharavi
• hahah oh sheeeit : fart
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  Sony is dropping the fucking MIC right now. : Ambient80
  • They are just sticking it to MS. : mugwet
• Did sony just win it all? : Gylis
• Well, sony just got my money for the next gen. : Conan
• You know, yeah online connected, no used games... BUT. The family sharing and multiple copies playing... : jake
• sony won : mwasher
• holy shit Sony, MS is fucked : indosauros
• wrekt.gif : pancake humper
• sonys all come at me bro! : Unleashed
• Ouch. Microsoft has egg all over there face. : burning eye
• oh man. sony just burned microshaft. : chilln
• Thanks Sony! : dael
• Xbox... go home : LoioshDwaggie
• Well, Microsoft obviously thinks their approach will be more profitable, I wonder who will be right? : aethyr
• SOLD. : cruncht1me
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  OMG no online check to play too, no DRM! [bbbbbeeeeewwwwwwww] mind BLOWN : valcan_s
  • INF so hard : Volatus32x
  • Time for a Microsoft exec to commit seppuku. : OutlawSundown
• Ok, that's that. When I buy next gen, it'll be the PS4. : dextius
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  Sony wins this gen. Other than Xbox exclusives like Halo, I won't miss it for a few years : Wolfanoz
  • Nice Guy Sony... : Wolfanoz
• SERVED! : TroZ
• Sony: Bustin' nutz and getting these ladies pregnant tonight! : laidback
• SO MUCH BUURRRRNNNNN hahahahahaha : daniel_h
• damn, nice move by sony : loppsided
• I'll believe it when I see it. : Fenring42
• Head shot! : baron calamity
• boom! : vrocket
• 1 Playstation 4 please. : alphablu
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  This is going to get really interesting once publishers start seeing sales data between the two different... : Evil Benius
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    Yea, I'm really curious, it could make publishers more likely to support MS, but who knows. : aethyr
    • Yeah I am sure it will take at least a year before we saw any changes based on that, if it even happens. : Evil Benius
• Sony is hitting this out of the park, like a grandslam. It's ridiculous. : deathofrats
• Sony just won E3... : AlvinKlein
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  I wonder if he'll announce that basic PSN is free, or if it'll transition to a subscription based model o... : qwpeoriu
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    that sounded like no more free MP gaming on the PS3 : qwpeoriu
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      no, it sounds like no free MP gaming on PS4, nothing was said about PS3 : AlexXdude
      • yeah, i meant PS4 not PS3 : qwpeoriu
• finally some details. some welcome announcements here : Mmmmmoo
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  I wonder if publishers will be more likely to fund xbone games since they will make money off used games : AllYourBase
  • Only if people actually buy them. : Conan
  • I highly doubt that it would have a serious effect on them. I don't think that they got blindsided by the... : shirif
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  PS Used Game Instructional Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA : SlamDunk
  • Bwahahahah : shirif
  • Haha, I love when game companies actually look like they have fun. : aethyr
  • ahahahahahahahaha brilliant : deject
  • Hi-larious : TK-421
  • Haha that's pretty great. : Chod
  • hahahahahaaha that was so good : armybob
  • HAHAHA. This video needs more love. : digital_d
  • haha love it : packav
  • Love it! : chuck577
  • muahahaha fucking lol - even Reggie can't touch these guys. : Borzoi
  • Fucking awesome. : Ormsbee
  • A-mazing. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • roflmao : AMikaboshi
  • hahahaha very clever. At least Sony gets it. : Maddog_Delphi97
• Damn, Sony is kicking it. : shirif
• FUCK YEAH : Nitrium
• MP requires plus?? : maulla
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  Looks like PS+ is required for PS4 multiplayer? : Empyric
  • sounds like it : zerog83
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    yep, but really, you are a fool not to jump on PS+ if it stays as great as it has been. : Rahzar
    • yeah I bought a PS3 at the end of last year and immediately got PS+. It's been worth way more than the pr... : Empyric
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  So you now need PS+ for multiplayer. : Grumbeld
  • Worth it anyway : Volatus32x
  • Looks like it for the game PS4. : RuffasBluetain
• LOL I am NOT READY :) whoomp there it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffCEr327W44 \m/ SONY wins : valcan_s
• Swinging right at Microsoft : Serpico74
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  So they're charging for multiplayer now? : Vimn
  • think so. : WadeMcLain
  • ^^ This. Slightly annoying, but sort of expected. : ]aratex[
  • I think they have to.. if microsoft does. too much money left on the table unfortunately. : chilln
  • FINE WITH ME. I'll be happy to pay it if it means being able to rent games! : TylerJSmith
  • sounds like it... with everything they are adding it wasn't going to be free forever. : Shadowdane
  • Fine by me. PSN+ is a great deal. : David Craddock
  • As long as they don't charge for apps access (e.g. Netflix, HBO Go), I'm fine with it. Seems like there'... : Ride-My-Rocket
• Sony is rockin' it. Good god. : Danny5225
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  Sounds like you need Plus to play multiplayer games. I'm not sure how I feel about that. : Ellissd
  • Don't like that one bit. : pyide
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    Money was on the table that just begged to be grabbed, unfortunately :( : shirif
    • jinx. : chilln
    • once a precedent is set.. : Pneum0
  • Plus is worth its weight in gold. I have it now and love it when I was originally against it. : Wolfanoz
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    *shrugs* it's $5 a month, and you get free games. Not a big deal. : deathofrats
    • It more than pays for itself in games. : Rauol Duke
  • I don't mind paying for the service if it's good. I think it makes a good argument for people that still ... : Nitrium
  • I don't like it really even though I have plus until like 2015. "Free" Driveclub though is awesome! : dpgagnon
  • if you own a playstation and dont have plus you're doing it wrong, it's insane value : veras
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  There it is: PS+ required for MP. : omnova
  • Can't have it all I guess : dael
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    clean jab, connected with the right but flailed on the uppercut. ah well maybe they'll still come in unde... : gokart.
    • aaaand the kick to the nuts for the finish! well played, sony. : gokart.
• Okay Sony, sub-$499 to the coup de grace : indosauros
• Free game at launch? Interesting. : Vincent Grayson
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  Will they go for the jugular and do $399? : Tincan
  • that's what i'm waiting for : mwasher
• GG E3, GG. Sony wins it all. : zuff
• Now give a sweet price sony! : braker
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  Did they just pseudo-confirm MP will require PS+? Not that I'm complaining, but jw. : Ambient80
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    yea it was a point on the slide in between all the good stuff : wurt
    • Eh, I'm not horribly upset about it. I mean, should be better now, and PS+ is already an incredibly good ... : Ambient80
  • si. : pgharavi
  • If you look at the youtube video of the lending games to friends video its in the small print. : (mojo)
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  No more free multi, boo. : ant_hillbilly
  • booooooooo : Boxelder
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  Here comes Destiny. : mugwet
  • OH man : valcan_s
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  I'm guessing we won't hear a price. : BioSector
  • Which makes me think they either have not decided or it is not cheaper than the Xbox One. Probably one of... : Evil Benius
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    That is they are building up to a fatality Mortal Kombat style. : baron calamity
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      Or they're gonna throw away all those cheers for $599 : pgharavi
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        No way. There might be a $599 model but that have to match the $500 level. : baron calamity
        • I hope so. : pgharavi
  • That's what I'm starting to assume too. IMO Sony wins on all fronts, but they're probably more expensive ... : zehh
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    Why would they, they're ending on a hilariously high note. No need to sour it. : shirif
    • I EAT MY HAT. : shirif
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    If they drop a $399 price point at the end of this, it would be absolutely ridiculous. : Ellissd
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      you are dreaming :-) : Rahzar
      • Maybe not. : shirif
    • Bam. Probably 499 with their new camera. : BioSector
    • DONE. : Nerdsbeware
  • It would be ridiculous if they didn't announce one, it's coming out this fall. : DeBurgo
• Haven't played multiplayer in ages. Not a big deal but the game collection, I like it. : baron calamity
• Console gaming is not dead, long live console gaming. : Boxelder
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  I think myth 2 was the last bungie game i purchased... : chilln
  • I bought Halo 1 and 2, but they got boring really fast. : Grumbeld
• Jason Jones! I used to like you when you were making Myth. :( : Grumbeld
• No Last Guardian? :( : aethyr
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  Was that a game stutter or did my stream skip} : dael
  • stutter for sure : wurt
  • The stream's skipping all over the place for me. : Orange Pylon
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  Oh shit, freezing again. Overheating issues? : Wolfanoz
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    I think the games are running on pcs? : chilln
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      Probably. Sabotage'd by MS : pyide
      • Thanks Obama : iamgoat
  • i said that about about the last game, i think its over heating : okellyc
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    The need Water Cooling : valcan_s
    • They want you to eventually buy a new one. ;) : Wolfanoz
  • beta software on unfinished hardware, not surprising : JohnathanDoe
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  LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA : DrWaffles
  • genius : johnny rotten
  • LMFAO : Strid3rtheGreat
  • hahahaha : DrFlammable
  • epic : thewindcriesmary
  • hahahaha. Perfect. : baron calamity
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  more hitches...lol someone is getting fired. : deathofrats
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    if it crashs on a fire fight its over heating : okellyc
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      Please. You have no where near enough information to may any such declaration. : Conan
      • my mom told me : okellyc
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      It's more likely an I/O issue the way it's hitching. It was doing it during AC whenever you'd expect new... : cetra00
      • i noticed this aswell : thewindcriesmary
      • good thing the game doesn't come out till october. its not like ubi is going to release it like that : dantastic
  • IT seems to be when loading new areas if you ask me : SirX
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  How to share games on PS4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA : ashkie
  • hahaha, awesome.. Though I do hope they have some way of loaning/gifting digital purchases too. : BioSector
  • Haha, they should run that on TV. : the archvile
  • Nicely done Sony :) : dael
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  Nice lighting : Rahzar
  • you are damn right..the lighting in these next gen games are amazing : deathofrats
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  destiny looks super generic : maulla
  • I was just thinking it was a little boring : cookblaze
  • it's supposed to be a borderlands-style loot shooter. : DeBurgo
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    It looked pretty sweet until they started shooting monsters, then it became every other shooter ever. : dael
    • yep, shooting looks very bland. : Rahzar
  • Totally, I was pretty hyped up for this too. : Nerdsbeware
  • Kill zone + halo : pgharavi
  • ok, a little better by the end : maulla
  • Art design was cool but gameplay looked pretty muzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz : GreatGooglyMoogly
• reskinned halo sup : wurt
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  did they show the console? I joined the stream way late. : Rahzar
  • Yea, shiny black box, who would have guessed! : Nerdsbeware
  • Yup: http://www.shacknews.com/article/79625/ps4-hardware-revealed : shirif
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    Yes, Kotaku has some pics. : BioSector
    • nvm, didn't know shack got some up too : BioSector
• I got him! huehuehuehuehue : aeg1x
• Looked amazing until the combat started, damn. : yoshimi20
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  I like the look of Destiny. Its multiplayer only? : baron calamity
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    You're always online, yeah, but you don't have to be playing with someone else, is my understanding. : Conan
    • Thats acceptable. : baron calamity
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  Shackers, when you game, do you guys talk like this if you are playing co-op? People don't actually play ... : pancake humper
  • i got him bro hnngggggg awesomeEEEEE FIST PUMP ME OH YEAH SUCK THAT COCK BRO YEAH : aeg1x
  • these guys are annoying... next game please : adodric
  • Every Shackbattle is just like that. : Grumbeld
  • It's over done aka hemmed up, not so much. : valcan_s
  • i admit i do talk like this actually especially if it's something new : DeBurgo
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    That new Tom Clancy game was the funniest. If I was that good online with friends we'd be robbing banks a... : soggybagel
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      Megan was so annoying in that demo : pancake humper
      • I can't stand girls on mics in games. : iamgoat
  • No, lol, these guys are goobers. : Rahzar
  • No we shoot each other with Carl Gustav's yelling "Stick around pancake humper!" : Grimmadog
• Did he just say grab loot?! Okay... they might have me. : Grumbeld
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  Destiny looks very standard fare so far : Begawkiness
  • great art direction though... : deathofrats
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    You're out of your god damn mind, balake. : jake
    • At the time i posted that they were walking through a corridor shooting bland enemies. I take back the s... : Begawkiness
  • You guys are crazy. So glad its not fighting look-a-like military dudes. : Tincan
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  Is this Wireframe? : RuffasBluetain
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    Destiny, a multiplayer game made by the Bungie. : shirif
    • the : shirif
• Attn Sony, MS: Stop talking during demos : indosauros
• phat lootz and spectacular lighting effects. i am so there. : Borzoi
• I can't get into MMO shooters : thebigbeefsandwich
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  Destiny looks awesome. I wonder if they'll have split screen co-op in addition to the multiplayer stuff. : Ellissd
  • Ok, that ship coming in looked FUCKING AWESOME : ashkie
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    I agree I want it. : valcan_s
    • yup. I'm sure I'll end up with all of them, but this looks fun : hamachi
  • Where those Wipeout jets!? haha : pgharavi
  • That's what I was just thinking. My poor kid is going to have to just sit and watch. lol : ThomW
• Seriously, can we have more scripted banter? : Wolfanoz
• Video game demo talk is so awkward. : kikilupo
• What's this MMO jig doing in my single player? : dael
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  Damn! This looks insane. A lot of Halo resemblance but it looks awesome. : Wolfanoz
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    Halo multiplayer was the shit. This should be a blast. : Rauol Duke
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      Im hearing Halo 4 multi wasnt so good. I have yet to play it (still in the wrapper). : Wolfanoz
      • I didn't like it. : Rauol Duke
      • It's pretty meh but it was also 343 Studios and not Bungie. : ArcKnight
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  halo meets star wars meets guild wars..i can dig that. : deathofrats
  • from what I saw, it kinda had a borderlands vibe to it too (but I've never played borderlands before so I... : qwpeoriu
• Can't tell for sure but the graphics look a large step up from current gen. : baron calamity
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  Will Destiny be on the PC? : valcan_s
  • wikipedia says no : Mmmmmoo
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    Long-term partnership... PC release seems less likely. : Grumbeld
    • :( : valcan_s
  • I believe so : Fenring42
  • When it was announced there was a definitive "no" I thought. I will look for it. Also, those interface... : fire00f1y
• destiny uses the exact same mechanics as defiance, with the public quests then bosses with glowy bits you... : thewindcriesmary
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  Destiny is so pretty : gmd
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    it's an mmo gmd : chepito_
    • Not really : gmd
• Destiny looks amazing : zombie man
• Delayed to 2014? I thought it was a late 2013 game :( : wurt
• Destiny looks really good. : DeBurgo
• Laggy control from streaming games, no thanks. : aethyr
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  i actually got chills a couple of times during this presentation. been awhile since that's happened. : mwasher
  • about what, in particular? : maulla
  • Yep. I'm becoming more and more of a PC gamer but I'll totally buy a ps4 after a year or two after there'... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  Destiny looks similar to Borderlands. I think I'm on board. : Nitrium
  • Thats what I was thinking! : zombie man
• I can't say I agree with this cloud gaming approach, I don't think it'll ever come to my region so it'll ... : dael
• Cloud Service... will those PS3 games be free? I was hoping he was going to announce that all PS1 and ... : Grumbeld
• Destiny looks like Guild Wars 2 plus Borderlands 2 plus better art. : grendel
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  wooowww $399 holy shit : maulla
  • hmm, i bet the eyetoy bundle gets up there in cost, though. : maulla
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  $400 BOOM : Grumbeld
  • Fucking INSANE : pancake humper
• IT'S OVER : DrFlammable
• AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA $399 masterstroke : thebigbeefsandwich
• $399 SHUT IT ALL DOWN : mwasher
• I bet the guy that's talking right now is like the biggest asshole boss ever. : DeBurgo
• Thats how they are doing BC on ps4. : baron calamity
• Love it so far, but I just don't get this cloud gaming shit. Hate the "streaming" game experience. : D45hiz
• lol : braker
• Fuck, $399. They win. : Conan
• 399 game over lol : MikkleThePickle
• It's all over folks, pack it all in : Borzoi
• shiiiiiiiiiiit : zehh
• Yup. That's it. : atomx_xmota
• And they did. : Tincan
• OH NO YOU DIDN'T : pyide
• holy shit they did it I can't believe it. : dael
• ROFL holy fuck. Sorry MS. : Rahzar
• 399$ !!! BOUGHTED : wurt
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  holy shit. fucking rape. RAPE : Ellissd
  • can i pre-order today? lets do it up : Ellissd
• OH SHIT!@@!! : DeBurgo
• *BOOM* M-M-M-MONSTER KILL : aethyr
• HOLY SHIT : pgharavi
• welp, Sony just won : bipolar
• ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME SONY HOLY SHIT : indosauros
• Flawless Victory! : fadetofunk
• PS4 bought day one for me...WOO! : Rigor Morts
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  OH SHIT : zombie man
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    Xbox is FUCKED : zombie man
    • It will still sell a shit ton to the die hard Xbox fans. : pyide
• Sony wins again. $399 : Wolfanoz
• Bomb 2 --> $399 : valcan_s
• OLOLOLOL : Ambient80
• Whoa out of nowhere! : Goto10
• omg 399 lol : crunkfunk
• Ok, there is is : loppsided
• Wow ... MS might as well just pack up shop. That's a death blow. : qwpeoriu
• There it is, headshot. : AlvinKlein
• 400 bucks! : Orange Pylon
• 399!! I'm in. : Pneum0
• shheeeeeit : fart
• Sony wins this generation : mugwet
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  as a Nintendo fan, if they don't bring out something fucking enormous tomorrow, Sony will win this E3 for... : AllYourBase
  • lol : mwasher
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    They're gonna have Persona 5 Wii U exclusive, I'm gonna be very sad, the begrudgingly go buy a Wii U in a... : Fenring42
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      I don't know how; Atlus just made their first Vita game (Persona 4 Golden), and it took them this long to... : the archvile
      • I think SMT4 is a new engine but they're not Persona Team. Atlus is weird. : Fenring42
  • As a Nintendo fan, I regret to inform you they're not even doing a keynote this year. : Grape Flavor
  • hehe, Sony has just won the entire console generation, not just E3 2013. It's going to be a few years at ... : Borzoi
  • Like a new console? : GreatGooglyMoogly
• 399 I TOLD YOU : Tchest
• *****HEAD SHOT****** : skinlab133
• OH SHIT : c_man_tmt
• KO! : TroZ
• DAMMMMMMMMMMNNN : Danny5225
• Holy fuck. : laidback
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  welp Sony basically used MS as a toilet for a big watery shit this year, slam dunk E3 winner : veras
  • Yay! : SlamDunk
• fighting words! : Unleashed
• Grabs mic from crater and stabs MS in the eye. : Rauol Duke
• HEADSHOT'D : greenbergMD
• GAME. SET. MATCH. SONY. : pgharavi
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  Dang. $100 cheaper for hardware that's more powerful and less restrictive. This is all win. : Conan
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    I'm thinking the Kinect increases the cost for MS for sure : Empyric
    • Definitely, really glad the eyetoy isn't in the PS4 bundle. I hate that camera garbage. : zombie man
    • Considering Kinect while awesome tech has never proven itself particularly useful for gaming, that seems ... : Conan
  • I will say it once and I will say it again, stupid fucking Kinect, biggest mistake MS has ever done. S... : valcan_s
• FUCKING SOLD!!! : RyDogg1
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  but guys, PS4 doesn't have Kinect : pancake humper
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    What do you mean "but"? : Conan
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      it was 100% sarcasm. Kinect can get fucked lol : pancake humper
      • FKITA : oldschoolbob-o
  • Ya, the bundle with their camera will likely be $499 too, but the other benefits far outweigh it. : BioSector
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  Murdered!!!!! : legsbrogan
  • The press they are going to get for this too! Wow. GJ Sony! : legsbrogan
• HOLY FUCK : Begawkiness
• Will buy. : atom519
• Winner. You can pack it all up and go home. : JynnanTonnyx
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  i haven't been this excited about an E3 presentation in a long time. Sony won my heart hands down. : deathofrats
  • That was a great presentation : Goto10
  • I was only here for like the last 25 minutes, and I'm still pumped. Can't wait to watch the whole thing ... : ]aratex[
• W T F : johnny rotten
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  release window???? :( : mwasher
  • he said "this holiday season" : Empyric
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    You know it will be November as well. : BioSector
    • I suspect they are anticipating delays, which is another reason to hold the price down. If they don't hi... : ThrillKill
  • he said this holiday : pancake humper
• Ms forcing the kinect is going to really hurt them... 399 is wicked, I have no interest in the camera st... : BioSector
• Well that was a mic drop if I've ever seen one. : zehh
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  END http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffCEr327W44 Thank you for Playing : valcan_s
  • Haha, thank you for posting this :D : aethyr
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  I feel like Sony is teabagging a sleepy MS right now. : Vincent Grayson
  • Third console curse, Sony was hungry, MS was complacent. : aethyr
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  holy hell! Sony is just going all out with the PS4. Double the ram at the last minute + 400$ price ... : MrLobo
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    Wait, it's 16gb of ddr5 now? : Strid3rtheGreat
    • nope it's 8 still : packav
• at 499 and no DRM I was thinking of maybe buying it. at 399, fuck it, i'll buy it at launch. : DeBurgo
• Weren't that impressed with the games they shown (already seen the best ones) but damn the price and anti... : yoshimi20
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  Call me a nerd but that was exciting to watch. : Pneum0
  • Same here. Thats how you do E3! : baron calamity
  • Yup :) : Volatus32x
  • I didn't watch it, but this thread was exciting to follow! : iamgoat
• XBone briefly twitches and flashes a light on the Kinect before the PS4 puts it down for good. : afrochops
• OMG FATALITY : cruncht1me
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  Total domination!!!! I really feel bad for Nintendo at this point. : baron calamity
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    why, they did it to themselves. : deathofrats
    • Yeah but its like over kill with Teabagging at this point. : baron calamity
  • I feel like Nintendo still looks better than MS. At least their console is cheaper, doesn't have DRM, and... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  This was the complete opposite of "599 US DOLLARS" conference. Bravo Sony, made me excited for some next ... : aethyr
  • yeah. they seemed to have learned a lot from last time out. : hamachi
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  man, that was such a gigantic bitchslap to MS, there's no way they can continue with their plans to ship ... : MikkleThePickle
  • If not a price change, then some feature changes wouldn't surprise me. : Ambient80
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    No price change, I bet the PS4 camera is $99, so essentially the same price for both systems. : mancide
    • Except no one gives a shit about Kinect 2 or the Eye. : aethyr
    • In the pretend world where you have to buy a PS4 camera, sure. But since it's delivering fantastic-lookin... : Vincent Grayson
    • Nobody gives a shit about the camera just like nobody gives a shit about the Kinect. : Darkstarblade
    • Hahaha : Nitrium
    • noc bout camera shit. : jimmy_legs
    • a) that's a fucking joke of a sentiment, no one wants that shit b) its $70 : veras
    • But you don't NEED it, it isn't required, it isn't bundled, which is what MS should have done. And it'... : zuff
  • There is no way they would let what Sony does dictate the prices they set. : greenbergMD
  • Probably not, but odds are there is an XBox Live subsidized model. MS is in trouble. : Thresher
  • tbf let's remember sony still came back from a larger price point but man MS is gonna have a hard time... : DeBurgo
• "xbox, get wrecked" : DrWaffles
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  Biggest unanswered question regarding the PS4? For me it's the load times / can a disc be installed /... : pyide
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    tons of ps3 games require installs : JINKY
    • I know that all too well. Like I said on the PS3 it's a half-assed solution to get around BD read times, ... : pyide
• Whoa, lets hope it all works out for sony : Gylis
• Pre-ordered. MS fucked up. They had a good advantage with American buyers and squandered it. : Thresher
• Not bad , i guess I'll have to get both consoles this generation. : Cashh
• I was already leaning toward Sony but they sealed the deal tonight. : obiquatro
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  PS4 pre-order http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGA9WK2 : jake
  • ref link? -_- : packav
  • I just bought: 'PlayStation 4' by Sony www.amazon.com : ashkie
  • And ordered. : TylerJSmith
  • wut? wierd : jake
  • Wow, might as well. It's easy to cancel at Amazon anyway. : AlvinKlein
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    Does Amazon charge when you order or when it ships? : Vincent Grayson
    • ships : pgharavi
    • Ships. : Rauol Duke
    • I wish you could hange it to order : Fenring42
  • Bought. : Rauol Duke
  • And done. : Nerdsbeware
  • aaaaand done! : grendel
  • Bought. : Visceral Monkey
• And its a win for SONY!!!! : Elsaispo
• http://i.imgur.com/8caJKr9.gif : DeBurgo
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  i missed most of it, but the $399. can someone tl;dr whats so awesome about ps4? : Flynn
  • see the thread above? : mwasher
  • no restrictions on used games and no requirement to be online for authentication : Mmmmmoo
  • TLDR version: Take every bad thing from the MS conference and reverse it. : Thresher
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    clearly the DRM stuff tickles the fancy of many people on the internet, but otherwise i thought the games... : maulla
    • I disagree. Destiny was pretty underwhelming, but most everything else was really good looking. : fire00f1y
  • 1) You can play the fucking thing OFFLINE, as has been tradition since the beginning of time. 2) You c... : David Craddock
• Finally, Microsoft can exit from the games sector. The sooner the better. : xembler
• daaaaaayuuuum : Fenring42
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  Thank you, your order has been placed. Amazon lol : pgharavi
  • Same. :D : ThomW
  • third. : xembler
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    I'm feeling kinda crazy and going to preorder. If I go sane at some point, can I cancel? : Nat King Cobra
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      of course it's amazon! I just can't believe $399. That did it for me. Plus HAY YOU CAN PLAY USED GAMES... : pgharavi
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        Fuck it, I'm not changing my mind anyway. That deal is ridiculous. : Nat King Cobra
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          (almost forgot) Thank you, your order has been placed. : Nat King Cobra
          • hahahaha : pgharavi
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      Yeah they do not charge until they ship. : Evil Benius
      • Is that true? Oh fuck it then. : aethyr
    • yes and they don't charge til it ships. No reason not to. : skinlab133
    • its cheaper than an iphone. : xembler
    • Should. Won't be unable to be canceled until it ships. : Ambient80
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    only thing stopping me from preordering is wanting to guarantee day one delivery : mwasher
    • I thought about that too. It says "release day delivery." : pgharavi
  • God damnit, I just did too : shred.
  • Can't believe I just pre-ordered. : Adm.Snackbar
  • Bought. : cruncht1me
  • Yep, first console I've ever preordered, going all the way back to the 8-bits. Sony fucking crushed it o... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  $399 (well 460 if you include the mandatory PS+ sub) SIGN ME UP : packav
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    PS plus is mandatory? : Pneum0
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      People are saying it's required for multiplayer now, I missed that part. : pyide
      • it was listed on the big screen at the bottom : dantastic
  • PS+ is $50. : Vegtro
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  They fucking owned it today. Day 1 purchase for me. : armybob
  • Well I pre-ordered one 1) Cheaper then XBone 2) More consumer friendly DRM 3) Sony has a really str... : armybob
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  Well, I revise my previous statement. 2013 and beyond will be PC and PS4. maybe Vita, jk : Frozen Pixel
  • Vita is pretty sweet. Especially with the Plus sub. : Rauol Duke
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  Just preordered my PS4 on Amazon. : ArcKnight
  • same, to be fair I pre ordered the xbox also. Can cancel up until shipment anyway. I'll keep the PS4 fo... : Rahzar
• Let's be honest, the best coup here is $399 : sergeon
• Wow, wow, wow. Congratulations Sony, you just schooled Microsoft. : dpgagnon
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  PS4 pre order up soon get READY --> http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?url=search-alias%3Daps&field... : valcan_s
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    Hurry up Amazon.ca!!! : dpgagnon
    • I broke and ordered it from the states :) .com : valcan_s
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      It's up!! PRE-ORDER COMPLETED : dpgagnon
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        Awesome! Same and canceled the .com one : valcan_s
        • fuck yeah valcan *high five* I am so hyped right now, Sony dominated : dpgagnon
  • Ordered'd : Volatus32x
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  Thank you, your order has been placed. : pancake humper
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    Fuck me I'm such a consumer whore I did too : exit button
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      They are doing 100% everything right so far. I am not a fan of the PS3 at all and I just preorder this th... : pancake humper
      • Personally, I'm waiting for a killer game before I commit, but considering that it'll probably be Persona... : the archvile
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    Likewise. *high five* What games are going to be launch so i can preorder those? (Besides Madden) : Wolfanoz
    • FF1500 looks pretty awesome in an over the top anime fun way : exit button
  • [high five] same man, even took the import hit, have one for sure \m/ : valcan_s
• Amazing, so happy Sony isn't embracing Xbox One's anti-consumer bullshit. : serenj
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  Wow I can't believe they actually came out and did everything right. Only thing I found missing was a ... : cetra00
  • That's one of the easiest things they can refine from now to near-launch. Hopefully there's still a prio... : the archvile
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  so, sony has the better plan for DRM and a better price point. though, i really dont care about the stuff... : maulla
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    The exclusive games were kind of underwhelming from both sides, though I do appreciate Sony's interest in... : pyide
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      its nice to see them support indie devs, but it doesnt really do anything for me. :/ i guess it might ... : maulla
      • Well, exclusives were a big part of it last gen. For me it wasn't just the AAAs but the smaller downloada... : pyide
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    Game wise, I agree. The best games shown tonight were indie titles and those are also (assuming here) ava... : pandastrong
    • the more i think about it, the less i want to spend money on either at launch. i already play so few g... : maulla
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  Great presentation. Sony is killing it. Microsoft just seems so completely tone deaf now. : daniel_h
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    MS is tone deaf across the board. Office 2013, Win 8, and now the XBox One. The trifecta is complete. : Thresher
    • I completely agree. : daniel_h
    • Signed : Volatus32x
    • How's Office 2013 tone deaf? : (mojo)
    • Same thing I've been saying for awhile. : Rauol Duke
    • Completely agree. They have really been on their f game lately. : baron calamity
    • I like Office 2013 :( And I have nothing against Win8, but then again I actually like the start screen... : fire00f1y
    • Sadly I have to agree. Wtf? : bozer
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  Fucking Amazon canada won't let me pre-order!!!! : Ellissd
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    seriously! assholes! : veras
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      theyre up now! http://www.amazon.ca/Sony-10032-PlayStation-4/dp/B00BJB9ZT6/ref=sr_tr_sr_1?ie=UTF8&qid=137... : veras
      • Preordered, thanks. : Nitrium
• Thank you, your order has been placed. - Amazon : ghost in my shell
• I just bought: 'PlayStation 4' by Sony www.amazon.com Yea, did't : damageundone
• Good presentation and Sony did exactly what they should have done in the wake of MS's PR fumbles. But ... : owly
• Pre-ordered a PS4, odds are I'll be canceling my xb1 pre-order before launch. MS is gonna be in a world o... : qwpeoriu
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  Everyone who's preordering from Amazon... don't forget the two year coverage Amazon is offering for $33 o... : Wolfanoz
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    most credit cards will extend the one year manufacturer warranty to two years anyway. : Ellissd
    • ^^^ This. Most Amex cards have Extended Warranty coverage ( http://www.americanexpress.com/us/content/ca... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Can't add the amazon coverage in Canada :( : shirif
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    the square trade one, right? do you get a brand new console or some refurb shit? : magic eye master
    • Brand new. Had a friend with a faulty PS3 and he got a brand new one. : Wolfanoz
• Thank you, your order has been placed. : shirif
• PRE ORDER CONFIRMED. : Strid3rtheGreat
• at this point Microsoft would be insane not to change their launch plans : MikkleThePickle
• Removed amazon Xbox and added PS4. Well done Sony. : kingdepork
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  How to share games on PS4. LOL http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kWSIFh8ICaA : ant_hillbilly
  • Is there a link to this that plays on an iPad? : Rauol Duke
  • LOL Hardcore LOL :) ZINGGGgggggggg! : valcan_s
  • It's just so good. I'm not sure how Microsoft dropped the ball so completely in their messaging, but Sony... : Danny5225
  • ahahaha. I think I might love Sony : thebigbeefsandwich
  • loooooooollllllllll : Ambient80
  • Yep that's great : nevlos
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  Anyone think MS is going to do damage control and change a bunch of stuff considering the BOMB Sony dropp... : valcan_s
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    Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. Microsoft almost seems to have a disdain for their customers lately. : daniel_h
    • They have a disdain for almost all of their customer segments (consumer gaming, consumer keyboard and mou... : the archvile
  • For the price? I don't know; perhaps it's too late to eat the costs. For the used game stance? Hopef... : the archvile
  • With less than 6 months to release? Nothing of consequence is likely to change. Especially given the en... : ]aratex[
  • I doubt it, but never say never. : Ride-My-Rocket
• Camera to be only $70 http://www.amazon.com/PlayStation-4-Camera/dp/B00BGAA3S2/ref=lp_6427815011_1_2?i... : BioSector
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  Pre-Ordered. I'm a consumer whore. : Grumbeld
  • http://i.imgur.com/O1MFFjy.jpg : owly
• Thank you, your order has been placed. : mwasher
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  Man, the whole PRISM story + mandatory Kinect completely and utterly fucked Microsoft. : ArcKnight
  • yea, thats the reason why : maulla
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    uh, yea, that's what did it. : mwasher
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      uh, yeah, I said that's the only thing try reading a book sometime : ArcKnight
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        arcknight, stop it bro : mwasher
        • :( : ArcKnight
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    if anyone thinks this is an issue, they are literally retarded. : eeeealmo
    • Welcome to the mainstream consumer broseph. : ArcKnight
  • Is anyone actually worried about that? I'm thinking ps4 for $100 cheaper and more powerful. : Rahzar
  • There's quite more to it, but that was one of their downfalls. The DRM, the anti-used game policy, the pr... : zuff
  • No, Microsoft fucked Microsoft. Mostly everything is controlled via your ISP anyway and your devices you... : Wolfanoz
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  Wonder if gamestop will offer a special trade in deal if you bring in a 360 towards a ps4? If anything, j... : baron calamity
  • Thad be fucking great. : Strid3rtheGreat
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  how dare you guys hate on microsoft so senselessly and irrationally like you do : d fluke
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    It's funny because the shack is one of the most pro-Xbox sites I know, people on NeoGAF must be absolutel... : aethyr
    • they would if the site was up : Tchest
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  OnLive / Streaming gamers: When your game is streaming as well as it ever does, is there still percepti... : wunderbred
  • There is no way a streaming game can be as responsive, it's just not possible. At best it will be similar... : aethyr
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  The only disappointment is the lack of Fallout 4. Not that was a given. : baron calamity
  • Mad Max should scratch that itch : Volatus32x
• i usually don't feel like "voting with your dollars" ever really makes a difference, but I bet this one i... : indosauros
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btw1eh4mitQ Sony obviously didn't get the memo. : TylerJSmith
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  I'm pretty of amused at all the people who were sure Sony's DRM would be identical (because it's obviousl... : veras
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    To be fair Sony actually said it's up to publishers, but they even went back on that. : aethyr
    • Technically this generation is also up to publishers; I think people (on both sides) were reading into th... : veras
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA : GloriousCow
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    holy shit sony. : mwasher
    • this video needs more love : mwasher
  • confirms you need PS+ for online multi though which is a downer. : ant_hillbilly
  • from the comments: http://chattypics.com/files/CapturePNG_lcoxxq2osv.png : aeg1x
  • Usually I would complain that this video has already been shared like 3 times here, but for this one it d... : fire00f1y
  • This is the smuggest shit I've ever seen. lol : Boxelder
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  Canadian Amazon pre-orders are up: http://www.amazon.ca/Sony-10032-PlayStation-4/dp/B00BJB9ZT6/ref=sr_tr_... : veras
  • Thank you, your order has been placed. : Ellissd
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    Thank you, your order has been placed. : BioSector
    • only $12 for 1-2 day shipping too, nice. : BioSector
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    Do they charge on shipping? : Tincan
    • $12 for their fastest shipping option. You can get the Super Saver for free as well. : Ellissd
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      you can choose free shipping, but even the 2nd fastest option is only like $6 (for me anyway) : veras
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        I mean do I have to pay the $399 now. Futureshop doesn't charge pre-orders until they ship. : Tincan
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          no charge until it ships, can cancel whenever : veras
          • Thanks, done. : Tincan
  • And sold out. Or it just shows that now that I have it ordered? : BioSector
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  Hopefully we hear some final hardware specs like HDD size and a concrete release date this week and I'd b... : AlexXdude
  • A long as I can upgrade the HDD, I don't care too much about release system HDD size. I just upgraded my ... : UselessHack
  • http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf : BioSector
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  CND PS4 order is up GO GO GO http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00BJB9ZT6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=... : valcan_s
  • Done. : Haku-Jin
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  Now Sony needs to get this out the door in a timely fashion. They can't let Microsoft get too much of a h... : Ellissd
  • As long as it's out in the holiday window, they will be fine. : kingdepork
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    Nov 30th apparently --> http://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00BJB9ZT6/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc... : valcan_s
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      different places have different placeholder dates. amazon us showed dec 31st. : mwasher
      • The Canadian site showed Dec 31 at first. They seemed to have changed it. : Ellissd
    • that's a placeholder date because they're assuming a release date sometime in Nov. (XBO is the same way t... : veras
  • sega had a headstart in 99 and sony still beat them : RikiTiki2
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  has anyone placed an order and not gotten a confirmation email? are they swamped? : deathofrats
  • auto-confirm@amazon.ca <auto-confirm@amazon.ca>11:23 PM (1 minute ago) : Ellissd
  • Received mine. : damageundone
  • Also got mine from .ca : BioSector
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    Amazon is swamped. It took 10 minutes for my XBone preorder email to get through, still waiting on PS4 as... : HojuSimpson
    • I don't think you need the confirmation email to cancel your xbone order : BeowolfSchaefer
    • Nice humblebrag. : skankcore
  • No confirmation email here, but its in my Orders tab and I have an order number so not worried. : Nerdsbeware
  • got mine from Amazon Canada immediately : dpgagnon
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  I'd like to toast the survival of shacknews with a pre-order of the PS4. Thank you sirs. : SolrFlare
  • I preordered as well. Marketing at its finest. : Chod
  • i have never preordered a console before, but everything just felt right about this. the price point, th... : deathofrats
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  http://www.xboxdone.com/ : aeg1x
  • Lol. : cruncht1me
  • Haha, awesome : fire00f1y
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  this FAR surpassed what i expected and i am really excited. HOWEVER, remember when the PS3 was $599 and ... : EvilDolemite
  • I don't think people care about the next 5-8, but rather the next 2-3 years. The point is what matters ri... : ovrlrd
  • Possibly, but we also know that the hardware in the PS4 is quite a bit better so unless MS can really tap... : ant_hillbilly
  • lol, most of these clowns are buying both systems anyways, its just a bunch of pent up butthurt rage from... : Jackass1233
  • Oh definitely. But as long as MS keeps the crazy DRM and such on the Xbox One I'll be staying away. If ... : SolrFlare
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    over time they will of course equalize out... but for that launch window/first 2-3 yr period, right now S... : johnny rotten
    • fully agree unless we hear some serious news before the xbox launch. i just feel it's premature to "call... : EvilDolemite
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    Don't forget that the economy is not in a super good shape - Europe in particular is going through turbul... : Nitrium
    • XBONE does seem very US-centric. Many of their features will not work in Europe or in some European count... : Kub666
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    I'm actually curious about what games people are excited enough about to warrant preordering either of th... : maulla
    • To me the fact that Sony deliberated pointed out their support for indie games and even showed some made : ovrlrd
    • Killzone will probably be impressive and Knack looks interesting? Otherwise, I just haven't gotten a new... : mwasher
    • I like playing games, I like new technology and toys. I pre-ordered both of them, not sure what games I w... : sicko
    • Of rme it would be Destiny, Watchdogs (if it doesn't come out on PC or the console version is equivalent)... : Nitrium
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      we're not even sure about launch lineups at this point. there were probably more PS4 games that piqued m... : EvilDolemite
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        if they keep the perks of PS+ going then the $5/mo will be more than worth it. and that's still 50% of L... : mwasher
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          i'd be pretty sure of a price increase if they keep the perks. i don't care - if they make things slicke... : EvilDolemite
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            they said "less than $5" in the show : mwasher
            • missed that. hell of deal then. : EvilDolemite
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          Live changed to $120/yr? huh?? : pyide
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            oh maybe not. for some reason I read $10. misinformed! but that reminds me, I need to cancel my live... : mwasher
            • Oh, I guess it is $10 a month if you're paying month to month. No one does that when 12 month subs can be... : pyide
            • But then you won't get ASS2 and HALO 3! lol : Nitrium
    • For me it was the promise of variety, rather than the promise of 3-4 samey fps shooters and a bunch of sp... : deathofrats
    • yeah there's too much uncertainty about what of what we saw today (from both) are actually launch titles ... : derelict515
    • I'm excited about Watch Dogs and Dead Rising 3, neither of which are exclusives. The only exclusive that ... : adodric
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      This is a very good point, especially since there is no BC. : pgharavi
      • but basically, at least Madden + Direct TV NFL : pgharavi
    • I'm primarily pre-ordering because my launch PS3 is dying, and not having a netflix + bluray box in the h... : Adm.Snackbar
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      I haven't pre-ordered, but being an aussie I've always wanted a Mad Max game :-\ : biofrog
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        can't you just drive about eleven hours to the middle of your country? : EvilDolemite
        • Yes.. Yes I can. : biofrog
  • They didn't to have as stark a contrast as this match-up seems to have. Hell the one thing that really he... : OutlawSundown
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  I hope they release day 1 preorder # comparisons or something. Judging by the 2 threads it's pretty lol w... : pancake humper
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    I wouldn't read TOO much into what this tiny community says about these things. The Wii would have been a... : sicko
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      Going by the Giantbomb/Gamespot/Twitch chat it was also pretty lol. These are the people who are going to... : pancake humper
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        eh, it is still such a microcosm of gamers, the ones who care enough to troll around online communities. ... : sicko
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          Eh Microsoft will probably get its ass handed to it in print by just about every news organization. : OutlawSundown
          • Also most people will probably go with the cheaper console anyway if they can play Madden and Call of Dut... : OutlawSundown
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        youre talking about thousands out of a sample of tens of millions that will eventually buy the console. a... : maulla
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          yes, clearly a gaming website with threads dedicated to both consoles today is a terrible place to get a ... : pancake humper
          • Hell I owned a 360 exclusively the last generation and probably would have bought this next one had Micro... : OutlawSundown
          • I posted in the PS4 thread and not the Xbox One thread. Why? Because the PS4 conference was in the evenin... : adodric
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        I think there's a decent contingent of CoD/Madden guys in that group who're largely unrepresented here : derelict515
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          I would have to wager most Madden players play on Playstation. : pancake humper
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            thats kind of a weird assumption to jump to. Why? A quick google search seems to indicate Madden sold ... : sicko
            • From my personal experiences with madden players is all. Everyone I know that has been die hard sports ga... : pancake humper
    • Sure, people commenting on the internet are in the vast minority of game/console purchasers. But on the o... : Vincent Grayson
    • No, opinion of nerds and early adopters is very important. When your family or non-nerd friend want to bu... : Kub666
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  I really had no intention of preordering, but I just did. Nice work Sony. : devi| dog
  • Same here. I play PC mainly and touch my ps3 on occasion, but for that price and lack of the drm shit tha... : Strid3rtheGreat
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  Its confusing why MS has such a hard on for championing DRM. I feel like the market is pretty much pushi... : D45hiz
  • I don't, considering their corporate culture and how things have been changing over there. Look at Win8. ... : Nitrium
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  Pre-Ordered. The last time i got a console on launch day was the Wii and i just showed up at 9 AM with no... : alphablu
  • Yeah, that's what I'm doing! I'm sending a message. : Pneum0
• PS4 will be awesome on military bases with limited connectivity. "If you enjoy playing single-player g : the archvile
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  finalSpart4n weeps. : RyDogg1
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    haha. who's character account is that again? : atom519
    • I don't think it was a character account. Someone found a bio with pictures from another site. : sofakinghuge
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  What I find most refreshing about Sony's E3 conference is that they appear to have learned from how badly... : David Craddock
  • People were acting like Sony doing this was complete crazy talk. But seriously Microsoft teed this up for... : OutlawSundown
  • Like I said before, much of Microsoft's employees seem to be coddled Seattle suburbanites who think bandw... : the archvile
  • Yep, did anyone else catch the giant crab quip? : packav
• preordered. fuck it. : chilln
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  Anyone know where I can watch this presentation? I wasn't able to see it live :( : Demius
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    the link in the article said the whole thing'll be streamable from the same url ~5 minutes after the pres... : nem00
    • Yeah but its not really re-broadcasting it >.< : Demius
  • Here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DmoZAPDV3ew : stoned wallaby crop circle
  • The real question is where can we see it where it isn't in complete shit quality. The youtube ustream ve... : Gwyndion
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  http://i.imgur.com/vLNmkwF.png : BeowolfSchaefer
  • Hahaha! That's awesome. : legsbrogan
  • lol : aethyr
  • lolol : shirif
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  http://i.imgur.com/lPTwl0B.gif : aeg1x
  • Amazing : gmd
  • Hhaha oh shit, this is my favorite so far. : Rauol Duke
  • hahaha good one : Borzoi
  • i cried laughing at this :3 : veras
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  I wonder if Sony's press conference was late because they were adjusting the price to beat MS...? : pun][sher
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    It was scheduled after Microsoft weeks in advance. : the archvile
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      That's not what he meant. They were like 10 minutes late starting. : legsbrogan
      • One of the streams mentioned delays getting everyone seated. : Ellissd
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    I'm guessing they probably didn't make a last minute decision to cut $100s of millions of revenue. : mwasher
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      Are you sure mwasher? What evidence do you have? They could of held an emergency board meeting in those... : D45hiz
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        I SAID IT WAS A GUESS FORTY-FIVES. A GUESS. : mwasher
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          how dare you question me >:O : mwasher
          • Haha I just like to think how absurd it is to think like that. It shows people have zero clue how high u... : D45hiz
    • I highly doubt that's what happend but It wouldn't be unprecedented I don't think. If memory serves corre... : qwpeoriu
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    Yeah, they just got Kaz Hirai sign up on an operating loss of 10 million $ : shirif
    • They sold both their Tokyo and New York office buildings for $2 billion; that should cover it. : the archvile
  • There were rumors going around weeks before that PS4 would be cheaper. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showt... : aethyr
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  Preordered. I love competition. The used games thing is brilliant. : [fry]
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    I know I'll own an Xbone eventually, but it won't be until they drop the stupid Kinect. My current one c... : ThomW
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      Honestly the online requirement is the thing that really kills it for me. : OutlawSundown
      • right but as a second console to a ps4 or a PC, you'll have something to do in offline time : jimmy_legs
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      I seriously doubt they'll drop the Kinect. The only way it has a hope in hell of getting proper developm... : Herman Toothrot
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        Even the Wii abandoned the motion gaming market they invented. I'm sure that once dancing games have run... : ThomW
        • I don't doubt that but MS is clearly convinced that's the route to go. : Herman Toothrot
    • My sentients exactly. : yosemiteclimber
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  Thank you, your order has been placed. : grendel
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    btw the price difference will be made up with the new Eyetoy that will probably cost $100, but at least i... : grendel
    • It's $69 or something on Amazon : Ellissd
    • you can preorder it too for $69.99 : mwasher
    • its $60 and very few people seem interested in it (or the kinect) so is doesnt really get 'made up' per s... : veras
    • The price difference will be in my bank account, since it and the Kinect 2 are something I don't want. : TrptJim
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    Yep, same here. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Also, this will likely be the last year I have to buy an XBL subscription. : Ride-My-Rocket
• Preordered :D loved the much more humble sony this time around (in regards to gamers' wallets, not MS) : packav
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  http://www.scei.co.jp/corporate/release/pdf/130611a_e.pdf hardware specs and pricing. Eyetoy is seperate ... : AlexXdude
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    500GB Hard disk drive (but subject to change) : mwasher
    • I'm quite alright with that if it stays at 500 or it's upgradeable! Just give me a real release date now ... : AlexXdude
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    "Mono headset × 1" That's alright. : Ellissd
    • neat! : packav
    • Good on them, learning and stuff! : Begawkiness
  • Oh neat, I didn't realize the controller had a speaker in it, too. : Ambient80
  • It includes an hdmi cable!! Thank fucking god the days of not including those damn things is over : SolrFlare
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  $549 Australian ($516 US) confirmed. http://www.kotaku.com.au/2013/06/sony-australian-confirms-local-p... : biofrog
  • is it region locked? I see no reason not to import it from the states at that price point. : aeg1x
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    abrasion is not amused : derelict515
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      Everything in Australia is 30% more expensive; it's the cost of living there. : the archvile
      • Also 100% deadlier. : shirif
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    hmmm.... I'll only be able to buy 3 or 4 for that price. Ripped off. : Kojak2000
    • You damn mining guys. : abrasion
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  First console I've ever pre-ordered but I just had to show Sony some love! : .frame
  • I pre-ordered the 360 and the Wii, never had a Playstation before. But I just pre-ordered the PS4, I thin... : AlvinKlein
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  Is there an archive somewhere? : ForcedEvolutionaryVirus
  • http://www.e3expo.com/ : Kub666
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  Did they ever say anything about cross game chat or other stuff that Live has right now for PS+? : kagath
  • they just reminded everyone that cross game chat was discussed a lot in the presentation earlier this yea... : RikiTiki2
  • It was confirmed in one of the slides. : Rauol Duke
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  What is the likelihood that MS sees the PS4 price and decides to offer an XBoxOne without the Kinect? (to... : CRasterImage
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    Is the Kinect too married to the system at this point for that to happen, though? : owly
    • yeah my understanding is kinect is more fundamentally part of the new xbox's ecosystem : RikiTiki2
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    I could see them drop the price to 399, just because theyre microsoft , they have the money : Chandler55
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      No way with Kinect included. : aethyr
      • if you believe the rumors that Sony is making $80 per unit with higher power hardware... : derelict515
    • I don't think they will. I think they're more likely to try and show that Kinect is worth the extra money... : K1Bond007
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    I don't even know if it makes sense for MS to do it this early. They believe that the early adopters will... : qwpeoriu
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      100 $ for a worse system doesn't sound very appealing. And they have a history of shitty hardware, both n... : shirif
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        ignoring the DRM, there seems to be a lot going on software-wise in the xbox that the PS4 isn't doing (be... : EvilDolemite
        • I admit I am very curious about their virtualization setup - but that's more of an academic curiosity, no... : Conan
      • no, it really doesn't : qwpeoriu
  • Isn't the kinect necessary for the xbox one to work? As in, it needs to be plugged in before using the sy... : shirif
  • zero. Their whole plan is to make sure everyone xbox owner has one. : disembodied potato
• Holy shit I just pre-ordered a PS4. What. : brickmatt
• Also, this thread is getting unwieldy. : CRasterImage
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  I was almost certainly going to stay in the Microsoft camp because I felt the vast majority of online gam... : Dr_Cube
  • Go preorder a PS4 on Amazon right now ( http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BGA9WK2 ). You only get charged when... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Same. Sony definitely has the first round advantage right now, they've barely made a mistake which is inc... : node
• I am so in love with Sony. All the guys saying "wait for MS to show games at E3, then we'll see" HA! Ya... : sleepytea
• ouch just preordered too : jcupitt
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  Just an FYI for a couple of people who mentioned me (thanks for the thoughts) - I'm blown.the.fuck.away. ... : abrasion
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    I always forget the US price doesn't include sales tax, while ours always include GST, so it isn't that b... : Kojak2000
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      The AUD is heading for serious trouble from what I hear. It'll be a miracle if they maintain these price... : abrasion
      • It doesn't have that much further to fall if the claims it'll settle at 85c of USD are correct, 93.5c cur... : nem00
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        I'm assuming they price in at least 12 months of currency fluctuations. I'd be very, very surprised if th... : erotic sock
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          Agreed, so why is it so close now? Seriously it's nuts, remember US price is sans tax, our is inc tax - p... : abrasion
          • Remember Sony is a Japanese company. The fluctuation in the USD-AUD rate likely doesn't matter so much to... : peanut-
• Finally watching this. The crowd reaction to the used games / drm stuff was bananas as fuck. : abrasion
• Holy shit this thread got big fast. : Maddog_Delphi97
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  Looks like i'll be buying the ps4. I just hope their dashboard is better in this version. : pun][sher
  • the cross media bar? i dont own a ps3 or 360, but ive used them at work and i definitely prefer the ps3'... : senor135