Watch Sony's E3 press conference right here

Sony's E3 press conference will be broadcast live from Los Angeles this evening at 6 p.m. PT (9 p.m. ET). We know you can't all be in LA to watch it live, so just watch it here instead.

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Sony's E3 press conference will be broadcast live from Los Angeles this evening at 6 p.m. PT (9 p.m. ET or use the converter). We know you can't all be in LA to watch it live, so just watch it here instead.

The stream will actually start five minutes before the event begins. Once it concludes, it will rebroadcast the conference in its entirety after about a five-minute delay.

So what do you think Sony will unveil?

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    June 10, 2013 4:30 PM

    John Keefer posted a new article, Watch Sony's E3 press conference right here.

    Sony's E3 press conference will be broadcast live from Los Angeles this evening at 6 p.m. PT (9 p.m. ET). We know you can't all be in LA to watch it live, so just watch it here instead.

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      June 10, 2013 5:07 PM

      I think they are going to announce the PS4.

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        June 10, 2013 5:09 PM

        I don't know man, my money's on a new PS3, maybe a kinect like camera?

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          June 10, 2013 5:19 PM

          They are adding rumble to their controllers, and 2 little joystick things.

          Can't think what game would take advantage of those.

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            June 10, 2013 5:22 PM

            ugh, seriously? when will they realize that the whole 3D thing was just a fad?

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          June 10, 2013 5:44 PM

          Nah - it's the Playstation Too.

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      June 10, 2013 5:20 PM

      I heard you can watch the stream on your PS3, true or false?

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        June 10, 2013 6:08 PM

        If you can then they have hidden it away somewhere in the dark recesses.

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      June 10, 2013 5:21 PM

      40 minutes to go!

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      June 10, 2013 5:44 PM

      I am READY

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        June 10, 2013 5:47 PM

        What would make you sit back and go, "wow, I wasn't ready for that."?

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          June 10, 2013 5:49 PM

          Release date July 30th

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          June 10, 2013 5:50 PM

          Everything

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          June 10, 2013 5:51 PM

          Last Guardian comes out next week on the PS3.

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          June 10, 2013 5:52 PM

          Hmmmmm damn that is a tough question....

          If Sony shows a game pimped with crazy Tessellation, high textures but most importantly all the foliage bushes, placeables can all me moved and have physics and you can interact with anything. Attacks cause everything to be dynamic basically something that is not static and you go "Holy Shit Everything! moves and is alive and has meaning", not only would the game look amazing and beautiful it would sound amazing and be nearly 100% alive.

          This would do it.

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            June 10, 2013 5:54 PM

            Free support and SDK's for indie devs a real cool program, that would do it too.

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          June 10, 2013 5:52 PM

          Last Guardian, day one launch title.

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            June 10, 2013 5:53 PM

            also new game from the Parappa people :D

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          June 10, 2013 5:53 PM

          Being raped.

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            June 10, 2013 5:53 PM

            just relax, it'll be over soon

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              June 10, 2013 5:57 PM

              LOL come on you guys, I am shocked from showing more KI3 gameplay most people took away that and where more concerned about the dudes meaning [shakes head]

              KI3 is going to be released I could care less what was said I didn't here anything but ULTRA COMBOOOOOOOOOO

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                June 10, 2013 6:02 PM

                I normally don't get offended over that sort of thing, but the semi-scripted quality of it in the context of presenting the background matchmaking function pushed it a little over the top for me. I don't need my rape jokes marketed at me by corporate shills - that's kind of my last straw, hehe.

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                  June 10, 2013 6:14 PM

                  The scripts where pretty bad I almost think it be better if the demo peps would just shut up and say nothing and if anything let the dev say something or project lead.

                  That script was pretty bad I admit, was stupid but I was too busy looking at the moving hair/fur of Sabrewulf it looked really good and the 3d backgrounds and particles.

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          June 10, 2013 5:56 PM

          No online checks every 24 hours, game rentals allowed.

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            June 10, 2013 5:57 PM

            Yeah if they have no DRM that would blow me away, very good call this ^^^^

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        June 10, 2013 5:47 PM

        I love how much you've come through today. Props.

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        June 10, 2013 5:53 PM

        Me to Valcan, super psyched!

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      June 10, 2013 5:47 PM

      I'm holding my breath for $399...

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      June 10, 2013 5:49 PM

      pizza in the oven, beer has been opened. My face is ready.

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      June 10, 2013 5:51 PM

      Think they'll mention Last Guardian?

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      June 10, 2013 5:52 PM

      grand theft auto 5 please.... It used to be a playstation exclusive.. please rockstar

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        June 10, 2013 5:53 PM

        I hope not, I am still holding out hope that it will make its way to the PC.

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          June 10, 2013 5:54 PM

          well nothing was said during microsoft. I'm just craving some info. any PC info on GTA5 would be at PAX

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          June 10, 2013 5:56 PM

          By PS exclusive I mean GTA3 etc when it was first released

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        June 10, 2013 7:23 PM

        Why would you want to limit the number of people who can enjoy a game? That seems kinda petty.

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      June 10, 2013 5:55 PM

      All they have to say "The Last Guardian is a PS4 launch title", and Sony wins.

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        June 10, 2013 5:56 PM

        A $400 price point would clinch it. I'm still surprised that Xbone is set at $500.

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      June 10, 2013 5:56 PM

      NeoGAF is currently down for scheduled maintenance. Please be patient while the site is down.


      lol, some scheduling.

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        June 10, 2013 5:57 PM

        yea just overloaded placeholder page.

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        June 10, 2013 6:00 PM

        Typical GAF. Always goes down during events, no matter how they say it won't.

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        June 10, 2013 6:00 PM

        yeah it happens all the time at every conference.

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      June 10, 2013 5:57 PM

      Alright Sony, my body is ready, my anus prepared, you may enter.

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      June 10, 2013 6:00 PM

      are they going to show the hardware tonight?

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      June 10, 2013 6:00 PM

      Guy on the PSN Livecast just mentioned The Newell

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        June 10, 2013 6:01 PM

        stop lying its not nice.

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          June 10, 2013 6:02 PM

          Well, it was about nothing really, but he was mentioned once! Twice more is all that is needed!

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      June 10, 2013 6:00 PM

      Okay, let's do it!! I'm really hoping Sony comes out with some kind of indie dev program in the spirit of the yaroze.

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      June 10, 2013 6:01 PM

      Uh. geoff just sort of spoiled game of thrones on his little show on gametrailers.com

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      June 10, 2013 6:01 PM

      here come the spinning flying triangles squares circles and crosses.

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      June 10, 2013 6:01 PM

      Is there a stream that's less shitty than this ustream one?

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      June 10, 2013 6:01 PM

      This stream sucks, its cutting in and out constantly.

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        June 10, 2013 6:02 PM

        yeah, i switched to game trailers because the shack's feed was cutting out too much

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      June 10, 2013 6:03 PM

      Sony opens up:

      "No DRM, launches at $399"

      *Mic Drop*

      Walks out.

      -fin

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        June 10, 2013 6:04 PM

        I think this ^ we just want better more of the same

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        June 10, 2013 6:04 PM

        Shortest press conference ever.

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        June 10, 2013 6:05 PM

        *Roll the trailers.*

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        June 10, 2013 6:08 PM

        I really want this to not happen

        not because I care about sony or MS in particular, but just so I have the opportunity to watch as a large group of gamers collectively lose faith and interest in these large scale investments these humongous corporations have made. we may even get to see it all burn to the ground in real time.

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      June 10, 2013 6:03 PM

      Turns out Sony now has the rights to several Nintendo franchises so we can expect truly next-generation versions of Metroid, Zelda, Kid Icarus and F-Zero.

      The new Metroid will be the most beautiful side scroller ever created and require at least two hundred hours to 100%.

      It will be the greatest announcement in the history of video games.

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      June 10, 2013 6:04 PM

      Lets do this

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      June 10, 2013 6:04 PM

      No matter the company, I hate these kind of circle jerk developer talks about how awesome some new hardware is.

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        June 10, 2013 6:06 PM

        I hate them worse when it's a big company because all the smaller ones start thinking it's mandatory to do. There's Steam Greenlight videos that have those ugh uhg huighguh

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      June 10, 2013 6:05 PM

      la la la come on get with it

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      June 10, 2013 6:06 PM

      Fucking Rocket Jockey!

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      June 10, 2013 6:06 PM

      Persona when

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      June 10, 2013 6:08 PM

      twitch tv is the smoothest stream (because it's just showing a logo right now)

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        June 10, 2013 6:13 PM

        they were good all day. I know nothing is happening now but you got a link?

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      June 10, 2013 6:08 PM

      Ok, I'm seeing some panel talking on GT, nothing on Polygon, and Sony's stream is being crappy. Is it actually happening, or are we still waiting?

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      June 10, 2013 6:09 PM

      looks like IGN crashed...

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      June 10, 2013 6:10 PM

      Any time now would be nice...

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      June 10, 2013 6:11 PM

      Live blog showing some activity on stage http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/10/e3-2013-sony-liveblog/

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        June 10, 2013 6:12 PM

        "Don't you guys fuck up the audio or heads will roll. Heads will roll!"

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      June 10, 2013 6:12 PM

      I'm betting $449 for the just-a-console SKU.

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        June 10, 2013 6:14 PM

        that would be a smart move

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        June 10, 2013 6:16 PM

        Theyll have a normal and deluxe console with a bigger drive + preinstalled PS3 games.

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      June 10, 2013 6:13 PM

      PLAYSTATION HOME IS DOWN FUCK! lol

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      June 10, 2013 6:13 PM

      Gary Whitta just tweeted that he is particularly interested in something that is going to be revealed at the Sony Press Conference. Considering he was the writing consultant for The Walking Dead, I'm betting we see the sequel tonight on PS4

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      June 10, 2013 6:15 PM

      Sony stall = "Ok, no rogue mics, awkward banter and no rape jokes, HIKE!!!"

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      June 10, 2013 6:15 PM

      CEO Kaz Hirai ‏@KazHiraiCEO 1m
      Sorry for the delay, we are waiting for the PS4’s firmware to update #PlaystationE3

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      June 10, 2013 6:15 PM

      Someone turned on the PS4 and there was an update, two hour delay...

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        June 10, 2013 6:16 PM

        LOL zing! I hope not this round.

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        June 10, 2013 6:20 PM

        Lastest chatty not refreshing is the worst

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      June 10, 2013 6:16 PM

      "One minute"

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      June 10, 2013 6:16 PM

      1 minute

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      June 10, 2013 6:16 PM

      1 minute it will be 1 minute later

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      June 10, 2013 6:16 PM

      IT BEGINS!

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      June 10, 2013 6:17 PM

      FULLY ENGORGED DO NOT DISAPPOINT SONY

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      June 10, 2013 6:17 PM

      here come the blue dancing girls

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      June 10, 2013 6:17 PM

      So much blue!

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      June 10, 2013 6:17 PM

      neat

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        June 10, 2013 6:18 PM

        Start off with a nice epileptic seizure to calm the nerves.

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      June 10, 2013 6:17 PM

      Who will be Sony's musical celeb cameo? :P

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      June 10, 2013 6:18 PM

      With Ps4, everyone will be like a little Daft Punk

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      June 10, 2013 6:18 PM

      Maybe we'll get new Final Fantasy information.

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      June 10, 2013 6:18 PM

      Save your pennies boys and girls, $800

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        June 10, 2013 6:19 PM

        (i already feel bad about this joke, I made that up)

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      June 10, 2013 6:19 PM

      DIVE KICK!

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      June 10, 2013 6:19 PM

      I see GTA 5 in there!

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      June 10, 2013 6:20 PM

      already showing a lot more variety than xbone did

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      June 10, 2013 6:20 PM

      sony won the stage show competition

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      June 10, 2013 6:20 PM

      show us the case or be destroyed

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        June 10, 2013 6:21 PM

        CHOOSE THE FORM OF YOUR DESTRUCTOR = Jack Tretton

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      June 10, 2013 6:20 PM

      SONY = ROCK STARS

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      June 10, 2013 6:20 PM

      Don't fuck this up Sony.

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      June 10, 2013 6:20 PM

      Oh good, I haven't heard "Radioactive" in enough things yet.

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        June 10, 2013 6:24 PM

        I heard it for the first time today when a student sang it at a talent show. So weird to hear it again here.

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      June 10, 2013 6:21 PM

      What a swell guy!

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      June 10, 2013 6:21 PM

      WHAT UP YO YO YO

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      June 10, 2013 6:22 PM

      stop delaying clayface, show the games.

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      June 10, 2013 6:22 PM

      the ustream feed is choppy as shit!! its also on twitch, though:

      http://www.twitch.tv/twitch

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      June 10, 2013 6:22 PM

      I love my Vita, I think Sony is just getting started with it

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        June 10, 2013 6:23 PM

        Likewise. It's a really nice handheld for sure.

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      June 10, 2013 6:23 PM

      Vita games gets you chicks

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      June 10, 2013 6:24 PM

      PSVita gets you chicks on a plane

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      June 10, 2013 6:24 PM

      Counterspy..........

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      June 10, 2013 6:25 PM

      TIME TO GET A VITA

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      June 10, 2013 6:26 PM

      So the Vita turns your PS4 into a Wii U?

      Also, this is ridiculous! Show us the box and tell us the price!

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      June 10, 2013 6:26 PM

      People who invoke a sense of excitement: not this guy.

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      June 10, 2013 6:26 PM

      Yes we can actually, we can talk about the PS4

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      June 10, 2013 6:26 PM

      Wheeee! lets check out the PS3 games...

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      June 10, 2013 6:26 PM

      Someone please open up some bandwidth!

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      June 10, 2013 6:27 PM

      PS4 do it come on do it, lets go, show me the goods.

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      June 10, 2013 6:28 PM

      this last of us trailer is giving me some big silent hill vibes.

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        June 10, 2013 6:28 PM

        The Road meets Silent Hill

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        June 10, 2013 6:29 PM

        Game is ace if you have a PS3 it is a must own.

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        June 10, 2013 6:33 PM

        someone spoiled it during the live chat on GT :(

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          June 10, 2013 6:35 PM

          that thing really is the worst. I managed to stop paying attention to it.

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      June 10, 2013 6:28 PM

      I'm hoping this means "TWD: 400 days isnt' a Vita exclusive..."

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        June 10, 2013 6:29 PM

        It's definitely not an exclusive.

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          June 10, 2013 6:30 PM

          Well, time-exclusive then. (I forgot it was listed in the steam database).

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            June 10, 2013 6:32 PM

            He would have said exclusive at some point when mentioning it was coming to Vita. He didn't.

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      June 10, 2013 6:29 PM

      Rain <3

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      June 10, 2013 6:30 PM

      Metal Gear Ellen Page

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      June 10, 2013 6:31 PM

      Wow, this is *not* what I expected.

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        June 10, 2013 6:32 PM

        It's very well done but odd, I think they want to show existing PS3 users they company still cares?

        ?

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          June 10, 2013 6:32 PM

          these are all big first party titles - they might as well sell some games to the captive audience ;)

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            June 10, 2013 6:34 PM

            Exactly, good call, Sony knows what they are doing.

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          June 10, 2013 6:33 PM

          Microsoft did the same with 360 games before the XB1 stuff.

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        June 10, 2013 6:36 PM

        At least they are pretty much just running a montage and not bringing the developer on stage to talk about games we already know about.

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      June 10, 2013 6:31 PM

      Damn, Beyond looks awesome too.

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        June 10, 2013 6:32 PM

        Yea, I'm sort of sad I don't have a PS3, I hope some of these games get re-released for PS4.

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      June 10, 2013 6:31 PM

      it's funny that xbox only showcased one game for the 360, while ps3 has shown a lot of really neat promising games for the ps3.

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        June 10, 2013 6:33 PM

        This ^^^ I think they want to blow away MS in every way possible.

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      June 10, 2013 6:31 PM

      i don't know why but I was laughing by the end of the beyond: two souls trailer

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      June 10, 2013 6:31 PM

      You know what would make this GT6 thing exciting? Fucking Porsche.

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      June 10, 2013 6:32 PM

      GT Damage?

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      June 10, 2013 6:32 PM

      #PS4noGaems

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      June 10, 2013 6:33 PM

      Why do streams get choppy?! Boo!

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      June 10, 2013 6:33 PM

      I guess this is the version of GT where they take out all the cars I like.

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      June 10, 2013 6:33 PM

      love that they are using old school amon tobin..

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      June 10, 2013 6:33 PM

      Aw they did put in a DeltaWing

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      June 10, 2013 6:35 PM

      Great conference so far, no cringe worthy shit. Straight to the point, just showing fucking video games

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      June 10, 2013 6:35 PM

      C7 vettes!!

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      June 10, 2013 6:35 PM

      How many people did Batman just kill?

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      June 10, 2013 6:36 PM

      this guy is boring as shit

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        June 10, 2013 6:37 PM

        Meh, he sounds more genuine than the other yokels

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        June 10, 2013 6:37 PM

        he's SCEA's CEO

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        June 10, 2013 6:37 PM

        He should be naked

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        June 10, 2013 6:38 PM

        No worse than the dudes on the XB1 show, in fact I prefer his style of presenting, straight to the point, no flash.

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        June 10, 2013 6:41 PM

        Best one yet, at least it's not embarrassing to watch

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      June 10, 2013 6:36 PM

      there needs to be a 60's Batman GAME. :D

      It's been too long since Freedom Force for me.

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      June 10, 2013 6:36 PM

      lol cheers for exclusive skins

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      June 10, 2013 6:37 PM

      Here we go.....

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      June 10, 2013 6:38 PM

      $299 for the game, a PS3 and the headphones?

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        June 10, 2013 6:38 PM

        Yeah, that's what I thought I heard, too. If so, it will be my first console preorder since... ever?

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        June 10, 2013 6:39 PM

        yup, too bad I already own a PS3. If not I guess it would be worth it?

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      June 10, 2013 6:38 PM

      Nice game info, but where is the PS4 news and games.

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      June 10, 2013 6:38 PM

      i like their music choices so far...

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      June 10, 2013 6:39 PM

      Here we go!

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      June 10, 2013 6:39 PM

      god dammit I hope mark cerny shows up, that dude can talk.

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      June 10, 2013 6:39 PM

      smaller than xbox, but just as ugly

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      June 10, 2013 6:39 PM

      ITS AN XBOX ONE MINI

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      June 10, 2013 6:39 PM

      kinda looks like a slanty xbone

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      June 10, 2013 6:39 PM

      Ohh, I like.

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      Damn, I think it looks good.

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      Sexy, reminds me of the PS2 vertical.

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      Slanty Xbone!

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      thing looks nice and small, but lol at the two tone gloss and matte like the XB1.

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      A much more elegant design than the xbone, IMHO.

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      lol, so its a 2 tone box. why do people care what it looks like?

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      nice - i love the look - like a stacked & skewed ps2 slim

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      that angular design is ... weird? I'd like it to look like the current beta kits TBH. :D

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      "It's BEAUTIFUL"] Blue Steal PS4 HOT!

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      Is that a trapazoid?

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      shockingly smaller than i thought it was going to be..

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        June 10, 2013 6:41 PM

        Yes, suspiciously even

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        June 10, 2013 6:41 PM

        Yeah, me likes it.

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        June 10, 2013 6:41 PM

        Agreed! I am impressed by it's small footprint, but I'm worried about heat...

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          June 10, 2013 6:42 PM

          After market cooler... it's kept my chubby PS3 alive.

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      And its a black box!

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      ugly!

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      lol they both look the same

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        June 10, 2013 6:47 PM

        the ps4 kinda looks like an xbone revision from 3 years in the future, just for size reasons

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      June 10, 2013 6:40 PM

      My stream is low bit rate, is he holding an Xbox one?

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      June 10, 2013 6:41 PM

      PS4 looks nice, but the jump from slim consoles at the end of one gen to huge consoles at the start of the next always seems like a bit of a step back aesthetically.

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      June 10, 2013 6:41 PM

      Glad to see it doesn't have big ugly chrome vents on it like I was expecting from their teaser.

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      June 10, 2013 6:41 PM

      sexy system

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      June 10, 2013 6:41 PM

      odd, they did not show any connection ports. like it's not finished.

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      June 10, 2013 6:42 PM

      Haha ok it's a slabby box. Better than the PS3 original!

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      June 10, 2013 6:42 PM

      OH NO HES TALKING ABOUT STUFF OTHER THAN GAMES EVERYBODY RAGE!!!

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        June 10, 2013 6:43 PM

        Playstation 4 TV TV TV TV TV TV Move TV TV TV...

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        June 10, 2013 6:43 PM

        RAGE!!!

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        June 10, 2013 6:43 PM

        It's painful to see them given themselves blowjobs.

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      June 10, 2013 6:42 PM

      This guy is terrible at reading teleprompters.

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      June 10, 2013 6:42 PM

      that console is sexy

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      June 10, 2013 6:42 PM

      PS4 All in one entertainment system

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      June 10, 2013 6:42 PM

      Looks pretty terrible.

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      June 10, 2013 6:42 PM

      At least they have Community and Justified up on that TV logo.

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        June 10, 2013 6:43 PM

        Though the movie shout outs were pretty horrible.

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      June 10, 2013 6:43 PM

      jack white wooo

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      June 10, 2013 6:44 PM

      WHERE ARE MY GAMES!? MSFT and SNE have switched conferences haha

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        June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

        Had a feeling that would happen after they blew their games wad in the initial announcement.

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        June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

        Theyre not spending as much time on it. Its been 5-10 minutes.

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          June 10, 2013 6:47 PM

          I know, and I jest...but this for splay better lead to something good wolfie!!!!

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      June 10, 2013 6:44 PM

      lil faster, Sony, going limp..

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      June 10, 2013 6:44 PM

      They keep talking about curating the content for gamers, I can only feel like we are going to facepalm over what we are supposed to like.

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      June 10, 2013 6:44 PM

      Games, but show them to me.

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      June 10, 2013 6:44 PM

      I like the look, it's more interesting than the XBone but not as gaudy as the current gen. Surprisingly small too!

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      June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

      What the hell is "the type of entertainment gamers want and love"? I'm pretty sure that is codeword for dudebros, but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

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      June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

      Is this guy a terrible speaker or what?

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      June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

      tv, movies, tv, tv, tv, pictures. moving pictures, tv.

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        June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

        It's just as bad here as it was in the Xbone conference.

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      June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

      i kinda checked out for the music and movie stuff....

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      June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

      I thought gamers liked the same movies and tv that everyone else did.

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        June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

        Yea, like unless they're distributing old foreign films, I don't really care.

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      June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

      zzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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      June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

      Sony " here's our tv portion, it's 3 minutes long, suck it xbox"

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      June 10, 2013 6:45 PM

      goatse

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        June 10, 2013 6:49 PM

        I'm so glad I'm not the only one that sees that.

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      June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

      Where GIF KAZ!? Make this funny!

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      June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

      Nice! That looks like it could take flight

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      June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

      Still no HBO Go?

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      June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

      Bad time to mention Verizon.

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      June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

      i do not like goatse hands delivering me my media

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      June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

      I just keeping those hands are starting a Goatse

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      June 10, 2013 6:46 PM

      We are being reversed goatse'd

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        June 10, 2013 6:47 PM

        That's the view from inside...

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        June 10, 2013 6:47 PM

        Wish I had that clip that Klerck made with the stick figure dancing in goatse that zooms out to reveal.

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      June 10, 2013 6:47 PM

      I'm thrilled by their commitment to provide gamers with things that aren't games.

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      June 10, 2013 6:47 PM

      where is every ones rage, over TV, TV, Movies, Sports, TV, Music.

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        June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

        I have about 60 seconds before I start losing my shit

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        June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

        It was a few minutes...as opposed to the entire microsoft one

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        June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

        I'd rage if I wasn't half asleep.

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        June 10, 2013 6:49 PM

        It ended in less than an hour and now they are getting to games and whatnot.

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        June 10, 2013 6:50 PM

        Over an hour is not the same as about ten minutes.

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        June 10, 2013 6:56 PM

        Seem to be the right amount of focus.

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      June 10, 2013 6:47 PM

      11 minutes in tv and movies. hope you guys made it through ok. whew.

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        June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

        nope. preorder canceled. the world is over!

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      June 10, 2013 6:47 PM

      There we go.. back to the games.

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      June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

      Haha "Playstation Gamers" is becoming Microsoft's "Xbox Experience."

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      June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

      I think they spent less time talking about the entertainment stuff than Microsoft did, but I could be wrong. However, they still need to show a ton of games and talk about their used game / always on policies.

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      June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

      #WhereAreTheGamesBro /s

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      June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

      soo exicitederuu to be hereuuuuu

      uuuuu

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        June 10, 2013 6:49 PM

        Don't make fun of his accent...

        DID HE JUST SAY TITTER?!

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      June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

      This guy's more alive than Tretton is.

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      June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

      Finally, crazy Japanese devs, let the crab attacks begin!

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      June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

      Did they just play a Susumu Hirasawa track?

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      June 10, 2013 6:48 PM

      play that passion pit song from 2 years ago just play it sped up!

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      June 10, 2013 6:49 PM

      For shits & giggles I tried to watch the live conference with my Vita. It's not possible via the browser, youtube or nico nico. GG Sony.

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        June 10, 2013 6:56 PM

        worst thing about these presentations, people on stage struggling to speak English.

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      June 10, 2013 6:49 PM

      The worst is when the presenter pauses hoping for applause and all you hear is silence.

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      June 10, 2013 6:50 PM

      use social media to see that everyone wants to see games

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      June 10, 2013 6:50 PM

      "Hey, there's an internet!"

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      June 10, 2013 6:50 PM

      12 new IPs! That beats Microsoft's 11.

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      June 10, 2013 6:51 PM

      $499 and I'll preorder right now.

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      June 10, 2013 6:51 PM

      Here we go you weirdo nonsense story making Japanese beauties!

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      June 10, 2013 6:51 PM

      In engine, mommy!

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      June 10, 2013 6:52 PM

      ooh more knights templar themed games, we dont have enough of those yet

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      June 10, 2013 6:52 PM

      Latest chatty erroring out on loading a thread is so fucking annoying I swear to god

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        June 10, 2013 6:53 PM

        It always has issues with threads posted by the Shacknews account.

        If it's not erroring out on load, your posts will take 5 minutes to appear!

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      June 10, 2013 6:52 PM

      cool a ripper game?

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      June 10, 2013 6:52 PM

      Call of Duty: Dear Watson

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      June 10, 2013 6:52 PM

      british tom selleck is the stagecoach driver

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      June 10, 2013 6:52 PM

      Knights Templar vs Jack the Ripper vs Alan Moores right testicle

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      June 10, 2013 6:53 PM

      I'll take it

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      June 10, 2013 6:53 PM

      Call of Lycanthropes: Victorian Warfare

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      June 10, 2013 6:53 PM

      2013 return of the railgun

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      June 10, 2013 6:53 PM

      Werewolves in London.

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      June 10, 2013 6:53 PM

      Holy shit that looks awesome

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      June 10, 2013 6:53 PM

      left 4 jack the ripper looks good

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      June 10, 2013 6:53 PM

      ok I'm impressed by the atmosphere in that

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        June 10, 2013 6:54 PM

        Yeah, can't say anything about gameplay, but they've piqued my interest.

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      June 10, 2013 6:54 PM

      Steam Punk wearwolves jack the ripper hunter sim
      Looks cool!

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      June 10, 2013 6:54 PM

      Is this a sequel to Dishonored?

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      June 10, 2013 6:54 PM

      Universe looks interesting, but I hoped for a little gameplay after the trailer.

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      June 10, 2013 6:54 PM

      Nocturne 2

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      June 10, 2013 6:55 PM

      was that a gamecube logo :P

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      June 10, 2013 6:56 PM

      was drive club all blocky, or just me?

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        June 10, 2013 6:56 PM

        yea. and the textures were bad. I hope it was the stream.

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        June 10, 2013 6:57 PM

        The gametrailers stream when from HD to SD during drive club for some reason...

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        June 10, 2013 6:57 PM

        From the video compression? Seemed fine, though still very washed out looking.

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      June 10, 2013 6:57 PM

      Shootyman and vroom vroom games its gotta be about time for a Tolkein type game.

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      June 10, 2013 6:57 PM

      More like the Snorder.

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      June 10, 2013 6:57 PM

      The new Killzone styling is so much better than past games.

      ...Still just another FPS though.

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      June 10, 2013 6:57 PM

      The Order looks good!

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      June 10, 2013 6:57 PM

      Love me some Infamous, looks good too

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      June 10, 2013 6:57 PM

      Do people play infamous?

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      June 10, 2013 6:58 PM

      Mmmmm... Grunge.

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      June 10, 2013 6:58 PM

      infamous looks awesome!!

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      June 10, 2013 6:58 PM

      the main character of that infamous game seems like a huge d-bag

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        June 10, 2013 6:59 PM

        So they're sticking with their strengths.

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        June 10, 2013 6:59 PM

        It's the hat

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        June 10, 2013 6:59 PM

        \It's def an infamous game then

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        June 10, 2013 6:59 PM

        Games looks awesome, but I hope I don't hate the main character.

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        June 10, 2013 7:04 PM

        My thoughts exactly, game looks cool but God damn do I hate that character already. At least they've proven they're willing to change character designs if need be.

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          June 11, 2013 6:39 AM

          I though thats the point to infamous, be an arsehole or be the good guy. You choose.

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      June 10, 2013 6:59 PM

      Killzone looks prettier than the last time we saw it.

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      June 10, 2013 6:59 PM

      Voice acting in that infamous trailer was really good.

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      June 10, 2013 6:59 PM

      salright

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      June 10, 2013 6:59 PM

      They're showing some pretty genre of games, more so than Microsoft I think.

      Still, nothing I'm super escited about. I want some The Last Guardian

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      June 10, 2013 7:00 PM

      Here ya go Raoul... this looks good.

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      June 10, 2013 7:00 PM

      Emotion Engine 2.0

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      June 10, 2013 7:00 PM

      Fantasy game from Quantic Dream, I'm sold

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      June 10, 2013 7:00 PM

      It is Aku from Samurai Jack!

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      June 10, 2013 7:00 PM

      I wish this wasn't a tech demo and was an actual game :(

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        June 10, 2013 7:01 PM

        crazy facial animations though wow

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      June 10, 2013 7:00 PM

      return of creepy old guy simulator!

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      June 10, 2013 7:01 PM

      Well, I guess now we know where that disembodied head demo came from.

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      June 10, 2013 7:01 PM

      this old guy has a flair for the dramatic

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      LOLLLLL!

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      hahaha this alone, so much better than MS

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      bahahahaa Quantic Dream <3

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        June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

        What did they do? Is it better than SHAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!!!?

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          June 10, 2013 7:04 PM

          They broke the forth wall

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      lol wtf

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      that was pretty good

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      omg lol what is going on here

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      holy shit that was in realtime?

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      Uncanny Valley.

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        June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

        The little dude is freaking me ouuuttt..

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      June 10, 2013 7:02 PM

      Japan you so crazy man.

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      Haha, that was cute.

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      Absolutely incredible Quantic Dream demo.

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      Hah, that was fun. Dunno wtf it was, but it was neat.

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        June 10, 2013 7:04 PM

        I swear when the guy was yelling I heard Westeros, and was immediately like WTF?? Then I heard Azmodan and was even more WTF??? Then lols.

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      aw that was cute

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      impressive

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      BEST TRAILER EVER

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      Wow...

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      Broken English from Japanese devs and execs is always more charming than PR speak from english accented dudes.

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      So...Quantic Dream is practicing some kind of dark sorcery, right? How that fuck was that realtime?

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        June 10, 2013 7:05 PM

        i think just the first half was in-game. otherwise I don't know wtf is going on anymore

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          June 10, 2013 7:06 PM

          The whole thing was real-time in-engine.

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            June 10, 2013 7:09 PM

            well then, now I need a 1080 link to watch it again

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      June 10, 2013 7:03 PM

      That was fucking hilarious!

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      June 10, 2013 7:04 PM

      Wow, that was great.

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      June 10, 2013 7:04 PM

      that was phenomenal.... o_O

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      June 10, 2013 7:04 PM

      Team? Not Phil Fish.

      Oh, super giant games? Awesome!

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      June 10, 2013 7:04 PM

      YEEESSS. someone that can speak English

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      June 10, 2013 7:05 PM

      oh shit the SGG guys

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        June 10, 2013 7:05 PM

        Fuck don't make Transistor a time-exclusive...

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          June 10, 2013 7:06 PM

          Oh good, "console debut". PC version in clear.

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        June 10, 2013 7:06 PM

        The D&B influence on most of the music they have showed in Transistor is fantastic.

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      June 10, 2013 7:05 PM

      I totally dug that, really fun.

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      June 10, 2013 7:05 PM

      MS spent a total of 20 seconds on something resembling indie games. I love this.

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      June 10, 2013 7:06 PM

      Maybe this is the trouble with them showing to much at the reveal, nothing new so far.

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      June 10, 2013 7:06 PM

      This looks AMAZING. Holy shit this art.

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      June 10, 2013 7:06 PM

      Transistor GOTY whenever it comes out.

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      June 10, 2013 7:06 PM

      Wow, that looks fantastic.

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      June 10, 2013 7:06 PM

      That Supergiant Games main character was carrying around a HUGE thumbdrive.

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      June 10, 2013 7:07 PM

      super vanillaware games?

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      June 10, 2013 7:07 PM

      okay Sony "self-publish" what does that mean

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        June 10, 2013 7:08 PM

        It means fuuuuuuuu green light

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          June 10, 2013 7:09 PM

          these are probably not games that would have trouble getting past greenlight.

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            June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

            Not after the latest stories, those games are almost all pre green lit already

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              June 10, 2013 7:20 PM

              not sure what you mean, I think that was my point?

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        June 10, 2013 7:09 PM

        These games are way more interesting than another Killzone or Infamous.

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        June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

        It probably means they don't need a partnership with a traditional (retail-pushing) publisher, like Microsoft does.

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          June 10, 2013 7:13 PM

          did MS really have that requirement for XBLA?

          none of this really seems like that much of a change from the PSN/XBLA status quo.

          the thing is, nobody really knows what MS's or PSN's contracting model is. all we know is that after a certain point XBLA developers started getting fucked, and usually it had to do with how they did cert/patches.

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            June 10, 2013 7:26 PM

            also what I'm really holding out for is something that will allow some sort of open or inexpensive dev kit, which is what I meant by my first question

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      June 10, 2013 7:07 PM

      LOVE the visual style on one. much more variety so far for Sony than for MS?

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      June 10, 2013 7:07 PM

      DON'T STARVE ON PS4!

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      June 10, 2013 7:08 PM

      Okay, this is rad with them showing off more indie developers!

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      June 10, 2013 7:08 PM

      Xbox is shooting themselves in the foot by not supporting indie devs like sony is.

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        June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

        i highly doubt that

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        June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

        people would just say "why isn't this on the 360 not worth $500 to play this, paid off devs"

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      June 10, 2013 7:08 PM

      lol octodad

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      June 10, 2013 7:08 PM

      OCTODAD!!!!!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:08 PM

      Going after the indies for real. Nice move!

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      June 10, 2013 7:08 PM

      OMG, how have I not heard about Mercenary Kings?

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        June 10, 2013 7:09 PM

        YES YES YES , it was a Kickstarter project, but this is awesome!

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      June 10, 2013 7:08 PM

      octodad! no way

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        June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

        "While historically accurate, this does not contain any giant enemy crabs."

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      June 10, 2013 7:09 PM

      TL;DW: We support indie all the way

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      June 10, 2013 7:09 PM

      ODDWORLD?! OH SHIT!

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      June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

      Fatal Frame! Oddworld stuff!

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      June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

      Awesome

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      June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

      love the indie showcase. well done.

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      June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

      sony has won my money. where do i sign?

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      June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

      I'm really happy that they're showing off indie developers so prominently.

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        June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

        I get some much more excited about seeing these small "cheap" games than most AAA games.

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          June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

          Same here. Highlight of the presentation for me so far.

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      June 10, 2013 7:10 PM

      PS4, you just made me genuinely smile.

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      Galaxy, I want it now.

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      aaaand MS lost the skulls of the shogun dev too

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        June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

        Maybe not. He made sure to say console debut on PS4, not exclusive.

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        June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

        The way they are wording it, things sound like some are only timed exclusives.

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          June 10, 2013 7:19 PM

          yeah, hard to tell which are which

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      the only games that piqued my interest in that presentation were some of the indie games

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      No transistor on pc? shitty

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        June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

        Huh? They just said "console exclusivity on PS4" meaning it will come out on PC.

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          June 10, 2013 7:16 PM

          Ah, cool. I was worried there for a sec

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        June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

        No, they said exclusive console debut. Nothing in that affects PC.

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      That Galaxy' 2d sidescroller looked pretty hot.

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      Sony is killing it, Ms seems so tone deaf in comparison

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      Ok sony, shut up and take my money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      BUNGIE!

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        June 10, 2013 7:13 PM

        Oh... Square-Enix... I'm sure Bungie will be coming up.

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      June 10, 2013 7:11 PM

      blizzard you're dead to me, DEAD!!!!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

      You'll use those exclusive Diablo 3 items for exactly 4 minutes

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        June 10, 2013 7:13 PM

        I think I sold the Gearbox guns in BL2 in no time.

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      June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

      Like slapping two pieces of meat together

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      June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

      VERSUS!?!?

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      June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

      SGG just affirmed that Transistor will debut BOTH on the PS4 and the PC/STeam.

      http://supergiantgames.com/index.php/2013/06/transistor-coming-to-ps4-and-steam/

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      June 10, 2013 7:12 PM

      Final FantazzzzzzzzZZzzzzz

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        June 10, 2013 7:14 PM

        What the hell happened to Versus XIII?! I thought that looked like the more interesting one back when XIII and VS XIII were unveiled.

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      June 10, 2013 7:13 PM

      Has there been any DRM talk?

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        June 10, 2013 7:13 PM

        They've said that it's up to devs before.

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        June 10, 2013 7:14 PM

        Nope, and from the tone of the show there probably won't be. I'm guessing they'll release a statement well after E3 when that stuff is finalized. Until then it's no comment beyond saying it's up to the publishers which they said back in Feb.

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      June 10, 2013 7:13 PM

      HUGE props to indie devs for releasing so much goodness that a company like Sony sat up and took notice. Indie devs have moved mountains by being awesome.

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        June 10, 2013 7:13 PM

        Adam Boyes is perfect for that position. I bet he has had a lot to do with the success of the new stance.

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          June 10, 2013 7:20 PM

          As an indie who has met him at an event, I can say that he an awesome dude in the right job.

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        June 10, 2013 7:14 PM

        This is exactly the read I got off MS from that press event a few weeks ago. MS doesn't care about indies or games outside that AAA group. Sony does, and the strong support of indies affirms that.

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        June 10, 2013 7:18 PM

        Yeah, pretty much.

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      June 10, 2013 7:14 PM

      omg please be a single player non-linear JRPG

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      June 10, 2013 7:14 PM

      Sony is doing a great job tonight, even my wife is sitting here watching this. She got bored of the MS presentation within like 20 minutes.

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      June 10, 2013 7:14 PM

      This is not the Final Fantasy anyone wants to play.

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        June 10, 2013 7:15 PM

        THERE ARE NO SUITS AND TIES IN MY FINAL FANTASY

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      June 10, 2013 7:14 PM

      Some gameplay, sweet.

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      June 10, 2013 7:14 PM

      Holy shit this FF game looks amazing

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      June 10, 2013 7:15 PM

      Did they just turn Final Fantasy into an Action RPG? That could be kind of rad.

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        June 10, 2013 7:16 PM

        I think that was the idea with versus for years. But it never came out.

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      June 10, 2013 7:15 PM

      this is terrible

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      June 10, 2013 7:15 PM

      oh my god

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      June 10, 2013 7:16 PM

      A good looking Final Fantasty XV? Hmmm.

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      June 10, 2013 7:16 PM

      haha FF XV

      might as well, I guess.

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      June 10, 2013 7:16 PM

      And there it is. FF15

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      June 10, 2013 7:17 PM

      final devil may fantasy xiii, interesting..

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      June 10, 2013 7:17 PM

      Fucking YESSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:17 PM

      Kingdom Hearts III?!?

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      June 10, 2013 7:17 PM

      Wow, was not expecting that

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      June 10, 2013 7:18 PM

      omgomgomgomgomg

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      June 10, 2013 7:18 PM

      Hey what do you know, Square still knows hot to get me rock hard.

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      June 10, 2013 7:18 PM

      lol cross-gen.

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      June 10, 2013 7:18 PM

      that blond lady did NOT like that FF14 was coming out on ps3 and ps4 at the same time.

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      June 10, 2013 7:19 PM

      KINGDOM HEARTS 3.

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      June 10, 2013 7:19 PM

      Still crossing the fingers for Last Guardian...

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      June 10, 2013 7:19 PM

      Fuck my 3G phone connection. Hurryap, bus!

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      June 10, 2013 7:19 PM

      AssIn?

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      June 10, 2013 7:19 PM

      I didn't hear anyone say exclusive for either FF15 or KH3

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        June 10, 2013 7:20 PM

        Franchises that big, unlikely they would be.

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          June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

          yeah, just when Versus was announced I think it was originally a PS3 exclusive despite FF13 being crossplatform

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        June 10, 2013 7:20 PM

        It would be insane for square enix to do so for US/Euro markets.

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        June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

        Probably because they won't be. :D

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        June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

        Right now is 11:15 AM in Japan, so consider the secondary target audience.

        Has Microsoft said anything about ekkusubokkusu ichi in terms of Japanese market?

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        June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

        If they said exclusive, I would have been on-board with the PS4 at that moment. :/

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      June 10, 2013 7:20 PM

      AssCreed froze hehe

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        June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

        Yeah looks to need some more QA.

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        June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

        I've never gotten into these games. I've bought like 3 of them and never got hooked.

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        June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

        that chick is sweating bricks right now hoping the game doesn't hard lock on her hahaha

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        June 10, 2013 7:22 PM

        wasnt sure if it was my feed or not... "i hear sounds..."

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        June 10, 2013 7:23 PM

        Yeah, same. Thought my pc was acting up.

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        June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

        LOL.... ouch!

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        June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

        Well, at least you know it's not pre-rendered.

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        June 10, 2013 7:28 PM

        Live demo ladies and gentlemen :(

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      June 10, 2013 7:20 PM

      Where's Henry Rollins??

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      June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

      Drunk Simulator

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      June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

      looks gorgeous

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        June 10, 2013 7:23 PM

        holy shit GMD looks at this!!

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          June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

          AssPirates! The vegetation is hella nice

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      June 10, 2013 7:21 PM

      Are you non pc gamers impressed with these graphics? Maybe it's because I have a high end PC and forget what current consoles look like, but it doesn't seem like a big jump to me.

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        June 10, 2013 7:23 PM

        It's hard to tell on the streams but the overall IQ looks to be much higher and the games look a lot denser than they were.

        You aren't really seeing a jump in poly or texture quality though which was always made the move to next generations more obvious.

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          June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

          hopefully it's the stream. Textures should be getting a gigantic jump.

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        June 10, 2013 7:23 PM

        The Quantic Dream demo is a huge jump and so is the Deep Down demo.

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          June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

          ok, i just joined the stream so I missed those.

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            June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

            but I love quantic dream, so I'm glad to here they have something coming.

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        June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

        im playing farcry 3 on xbox 360 right now, it looks like shit

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        June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

        AC4 is a cross-gen game.

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        June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

        You can't really tell from a compressed stream. It does look better than ps3. Especially in animation.

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        June 10, 2013 7:28 PM

        So far everything can easily be done a medium PC, looks great but yeah it not like OMG! that is if you are a medium to high end PC gamer.

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          June 10, 2013 7:31 PM

          Sure, but at least the median quality will go up for ports, which still benefits us PC gamers.

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            June 10, 2013 7:32 PM

            Exactly ^^^^ this the new console is MASSIVE positive for PC gaming and console gamers that want to finally play 1080p 60fps.

            Total win win I am very happy.

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          June 10, 2013 7:31 PM

          Well hopefully it will allow new games to push our PCs harder. Only 280 more spots until my step up to dual 780s processes :-)

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        June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

        Not judging anything until HD direct feed youtube videos or something comes out.

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      June 10, 2013 7:22 PM

      I love ASS

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        June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

        This is so fucking akward.

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        June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

        This needs to be the featured post on the home page STAT.

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      June 10, 2013 7:23 PM

      speed schooner? lol

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        June 10, 2013 7:26 PM

        haha, yes

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        June 10, 2013 7:26 PM

        That ship was booking ass for not having any sails

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        June 10, 2013 7:28 PM

        The ships in AC3 did control like giant jet-skis. I couldn't get into it :(

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

      So... is that a live demo, or a hitching up recording?

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      June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

      Heads will roll for this garbage collection

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      June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

      Wow that is kind of embarrassing.

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        June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

        I'd rather see a live demo hitch up like that than prerecorded action.

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          June 10, 2013 7:26 PM

          ^^. I don't mind that it crashed at all

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          June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

          agreed. Still looked good. Release is still months away, they have time to work on bugs and quirks and streamline it. Now, if this was at launch, then yeah, it would be a different story.

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      June 10, 2013 7:24 PM

      QA TEAM FIRED

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      Ahhh awkward......

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        June 10, 2013 7:30 PM

        I would rather see real gameplay with some hitches than bullshot trailers any day!

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          June 10, 2013 7:34 PM

          Oh 100% I was not bashing it I feel bad for the team that is all, I hate pre recorded or CG stuff.

          Man I feel so bad for them demoing it ;(

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            June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

            Agreed! They will iron all of the wrinkles out, those peeps will bring it!

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      Ouch, embarrassing

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      Ultra fired

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      lol

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      lol keeps hitching..is this on source?

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        June 10, 2013 7:26 PM

        haha the audio repeating glitch definitely reminded me of Source games

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      oops!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      Wuh whoooooaaaaaa..

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      lololol, gj ubisoft

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      LolBisoft.

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      Whoops.

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      ahhahaha

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      wow did you see the guy's head just drop when it froze?

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      ok, looks Asscreed 4 looks nice. move on

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      You had ONE job.

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      June 10, 2013 7:25 PM

      hahah that guy was really wanting to get off the stage.

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      June 10, 2013 7:26 PM

      somebody just got fired... lol

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      June 10, 2013 7:26 PM

      And that's why you see pre-recorded videos at these sort of things.

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        June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

        Respect for giving the hardware a go though.

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      June 10, 2013 7:26 PM

      ouch....looks like some over heating!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

      "GUNPOINT DID IT!"

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      June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

      hmm.. still haven't got the "everything is too shiny" thing down yet. maybe next-next-gen?

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      June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

      I am so hard for watchdogs.

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      June 10, 2013 7:27 PM

      Stealth driving, yeah!

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      June 10, 2013 7:29 PM

      Man I can not wait to play Watch Dogs

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      June 10, 2013 7:31 PM

      finally a guy named TBone that isn't black.

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      June 10, 2013 7:31 PM

      Watchdogs: training the next generation of NSA voyeurs

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        June 10, 2013 7:33 PM

        what's the pad device someone is using? will you be able to download an app and let your girlfriend help you?

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      June 10, 2013 7:32 PM

      The production values on these games, amazing, I almost fail to see how these can be profitable.

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        June 10, 2013 7:33 PM

        That kinda scares me as well but ubi has gotten really good at attacking these large projects.

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        June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

        No used games, probs.

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        June 10, 2013 7:36 PM

        that's why they have to release on every platform imaginable in most cases

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      June 10, 2013 7:32 PM

      This game looks pretty fucking cool.

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      June 10, 2013 7:33 PM

      These are the same guys that did sleeping dogs right?

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        June 10, 2013 7:34 PM

        nope, though it looks similar.

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      June 10, 2013 7:33 PM

      First game I've seen all day that's made me excited.

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      June 10, 2013 7:34 PM

      I am so hard for this game.

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      Even deeper ball handling ahead.

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      it looked like someone was using a tablet to interact with that Watch Dogs demo, what's up with that?

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        June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

        The game allows another player to assist you if they're playing the mobile version.

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          June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

          this would work on the PC version too? any details released outside this sony presentation?

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            June 10, 2013 7:38 PM

            Not yet, but yes, PC also.
            I don't know if the game versions talk to each other (PS4/PC)

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        June 10, 2013 7:36 PM

        I saw that as well

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        June 10, 2013 7:36 PM

        It was when he called for help from "mobile player" Someone on a tablet helped out.

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        June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

        new systems have alot of tablet app integration. so u can be playing a solo game on tv, and your buddy can be like "hai, want some help?" and they can drop in and do things. seems to be the new "thing"

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      I hate 2K LeBron more than real LeBron.

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      haha the facial animation was horrible

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      nice, ps4 got my exclusive bron bron content

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      Watch Dogs looks surprisingly awesome. Awesome pretty.

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      And its time to get a snack.

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      uuuuughhh..digital lebron looks like ass..his face is made out of rubber

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      June 10, 2013 7:35 PM

      Can real life LeBron eat a basketball because I'm pretty sure his digital version could.

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      June 10, 2013 7:36 PM

      TES online?

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      June 10, 2013 7:36 PM

      The Order trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdcXjOfiLsg

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      June 10, 2013 7:36 PM

      Still no Destiny reveal. Are they saving the best for last?

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      June 10, 2013 7:36 PM

      Man, there's nothing about Elder Scrolls Online that i really care about or see interesting.

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        June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

        Same, just have not been impressed with anything they showed of it so far.

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      June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

      so what's the chance that ESO is not just more-of-the-same tired MMO quest-fetch gameplay

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        June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

        0.04%

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          June 10, 2013 7:38 PM

          I think you're being generous. Although how much of Skyrim wasn't quest-fetch?

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        June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

        UNCHARTED 4 PLS; THANKS.

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        June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

        Negative 10000000000000000000000000%

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      June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

      Dumbledore in Elder Scrolls online haha! (his voice at least)

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      June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

      Man I hope TES online is good, been looking forward to it.

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      June 10, 2013 7:37 PM

      Huh so consolers are going to get MMOs that is pretty cool.

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        June 10, 2013 7:39 PM

        There was Everquest on PS2. I remember bcs I got the beta.

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          June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

          And FF online, I meant seems like more are going to make it to them.

          Heck the DC had Phantasy Star Online back in the day.

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      June 10, 2013 7:38 PM

      lfg need tank :( ugh no thx I want single player elder scrolls

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      June 10, 2013 7:38 PM

      Fallout 4? There's no way, right?

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        June 10, 2013 7:39 PM

        Looks like it. They seem to be going in publisher order.

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        June 10, 2013 7:39 PM

        I knew I should have guessed Mad Max.

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      June 10, 2013 7:38 PM

      Mad Max?

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      June 10, 2013 7:38 PM

      fallout?

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      June 10, 2013 7:39 PM

      Mad Max?

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      June 10, 2013 7:39 PM

      Mad Max!

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        June 10, 2013 7:40 PM

        Holy shit. This *could* be good...

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      June 10, 2013 7:39 PM

      WTF that dude just dropped valcan_s off in that desert

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      June 10, 2013 7:39 PM

      Fuck, this looks like ....Mad Max!

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      June 10, 2013 7:39 PM

      fallout 4? rage 2?

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      June 10, 2013 7:40 PM

      8O





    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:40 PM

      That wasn't Fallout 2 2. Fuck this shit.

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      June 10, 2013 7:40 PM

      SO most of these games are multi-plat then?

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      June 10, 2013 7:40 PM

      Ok Jack where are my blockbusters.

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      Avalanche are the Just Cause guys, yeah?

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      Guys, guys. I'm pretty excited for PS4.

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      Sooo... price..?

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      OH MY GOD 8D

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      haha the crowd reaction to used games. amazing.

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      and SONY WINS!

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      Hah, that crowd reaction. MS needs to rethink this.

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        June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

        I'm sure the *publishers* are probably happier with Microsoft's stance though

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      C'mon dude, give us the price.

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      oh shit it just got real

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      BOOM! There's the headshot! No restrictions on used games.

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        June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

        Yeah, but the *PS4* won't. Publishers still can do it if they chose to I think that's what they said.

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      There we go

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      SONY Headshots Microsoft. USED GAMES!!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      kick some ass Sony

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      and there it is

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      June 10, 2013 7:41 PM

      haha, roaring applause after that comment. GOOD!

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      haha welp. that's it for MS.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Drops mic and leaves crater.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Oh shit.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      And there's the bomb.. hope there's no asterisk.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      I wonder if they decided that after the backlash MS got

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      And sold.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Bomb just drooped on used games it is 100% open

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      BOOM. There it is.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Fucking sick burn

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Boom!

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Wow, was not expecting that.

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        June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

        Does this mean the games won't require an install, thus need the disc in the drive and / or be slow to load from the BD?

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          June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

          Because in theory I actually like the Xbox model over the PS3's half-assed maybe a game installs some data maybe it doesn't and is still slow to load.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      lol the crowd

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      FREEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOMMMMMMM!!!!!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      sony wins

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      boom headshot

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Shot over the bow, holy shit

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      WHAT did anyone else see that championship wrestling belt some guy in the audience held up?

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Sony just announced they won.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Meanwhile at Microsoft...

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      I'm pretty surprised they went into DRM, and by saying "doesn't support DRM" that leads me to believe it won't even be up to the publishers, which is what they said before.

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Droppin' BOMBS now!!

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      boom headshot

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      No always on either.... c'mon $400 price point!

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      June 10, 2013 7:42 PM

      Fucking sad you need a powerpoint slide for that in this day and age.

      Also MS is getting fucking owned.

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Tyler J Smith posted a new article, Sony's PS4 saves Shacknews.com and Gamefly.

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      hahah oh sheeeit

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Sony is dropping the fucking MIC right now.

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        June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

        They are just sticking it to MS.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Did sony just win it all?

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Well, sony just got my money for the next gen.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      You know, yeah online connected, no used games...

      BUT. The family sharing and multiple copies playing at once is pretty nice feature.

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      sony won

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      holy shit Sony, MS is fucked

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      wrekt.gif

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      sonys all come at me bro!

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Ouch. Microsoft has egg all over there face.

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      oh man. sony just burned microshaft.

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Thanks Sony!

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Xbox... go home

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Well, Microsoft obviously thinks their approach will be more profitable, I wonder who will be right?

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      SOLD.

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      OMG no online check to play too, no DRM! [bbbbbeeeeewwwwwwww] mind BLOWN

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Ok, that's that. When I buy next gen, it'll be the PS4.

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Sony wins this gen. Other than Xbox exclusives like Halo, I won't miss it for a few years

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      SERVED!

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      Sony: Bustin' nutz and getting these ladies pregnant tonight!

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      SO MUCH BUURRRRNNNNN hahahahahaha

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      June 10, 2013 7:43 PM

      damn, nice move by sony

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      June 10, 2013 7:44 PM

      I'll believe it when I see it.

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      June 10, 2013 7:44 PM

      Head shot!

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      June 10, 2013 7:44 PM

      boom!

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      June 10, 2013 7:44 PM

      1 Playstation 4 please.

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      June 10, 2013 7:44 PM

      This is going to get really interesting once publishers start seeing sales data between the two different models.

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        June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

        Yea, I'm really curious, it could make publishers more likely to support MS, but who knows.

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          June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

          Yeah I am sure it will take at least a year before we saw any changes based on that, if it even happens.

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      June 10, 2013 7:44 PM

      Sony is hitting this out of the park, like a grandslam. It's ridiculous.

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      June 10, 2013 7:44 PM

      Sony just won E3...

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      June 10, 2013 7:44 PM

      I wonder if he'll announce that basic PSN is free, or if it'll transition to a subscription based model only

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        June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

        that sounded like no more free MP gaming on the PS3

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          June 10, 2013 7:47 PM

          no, it sounds like no free MP gaming on PS4, nothing was said about PS3

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      finally some details. some welcome announcements here

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      I wonder if publishers will be more likely to fund xbone games since they will make money off used games

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

        Only if people actually buy them.

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        June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

        I highly doubt that it would have a serious effect on them. I don't think that they got blindsided by these news.

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      PS Used Game Instructional Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      Damn, Sony is kicking it.

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      FUCK YEAH

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      MP requires plus??

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      Looks like PS+ is required for PS4 multiplayer?

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

        sounds like it

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        June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

        yep, but really, you are a fool not to jump on PS+ if it stays as great as it has been.

        • reply
          June 10, 2013 7:52 PM

          yeah I bought a PS3 at the end of last year and immediately got PS+. It's been worth way more than the price with all the great free games

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      So you now need PS+ for multiplayer.

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      LOL I am NOT READY :) whoomp there it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffCEr327W44 \m/

      SONY wins

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      Swinging right at Microsoft

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      June 10, 2013 7:45 PM

      So they're charging for multiplayer now?

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        June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

        think so.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

        ^^ This. Slightly annoying, but sort of expected.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

        I think they have to.. if microsoft does. too much money left on the table unfortunately.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:48 PM

        FINE WITH ME. I'll be happy to pay it if it means being able to rent games!

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

        sounds like it... with everything they are adding it wasn't going to be free forever.

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        June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

        Fine by me. PSN+ is a great deal.

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        June 10, 2013 10:29 PM

        As long as they don't charge for apps access (e.g. Netflix, HBO Go), I'm fine with it. Seems like there's a decent amount of value baked in, and if you can get annual subs on sale like you can with MS Points or Gold Cards, you'll prolly only pay $35/year.

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      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      Sony is rockin' it. Good god.

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      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      Sounds like you need Plus to play multiplayer games. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:47 PM

        Don't like that one bit.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:47 PM

        Money was on the table that just begged to be grabbed, unfortunately :(

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:48 PM

        Plus is worth its weight in gold. I have it now and love it when I was originally against it.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:49 PM

        *shrugs* it's $5 a month, and you get free games. Not a big deal.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:49 PM

        I don't mind paying for the service if it's good. I think it makes a good argument for people that still resist on subscribing.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

        I don't like it really even though I have plus until like 2015. "Free" Driveclub though is awesome!

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

        if you own a playstation and dont have plus you're doing it wrong, it's insane value

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      There it is: PS+ required for MP.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:47 PM

        Can't have it all I guess

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:48 PM

        clean jab, connected with the right but flailed on the uppercut. ah well maybe they'll still come in under $500

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          June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

          aaaand the kick to the nuts for the finish! well played, sony.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      Okay Sony, sub-$499 to the coup de grace

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      Free game at launch? Interesting.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      Will they go for the jugular and do $399?

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      GG E3, GG. Sony wins it all.

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      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      Now give a sweet price sony!

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      Did they just pseudo-confirm MP will require PS+? Not that I'm complaining, but jw.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:47 PM

        yea it was a point on the slide in between all the good stuff

        • reply
          June 10, 2013 7:48 PM

          Eh, I'm not horribly upset about it. I mean, should be better now, and PS+ is already an incredibly good deal.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:48 PM

        si.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

        If you look at the youtube video of the lending games to friends video its in the small print.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:46 PM

      No more free multi, boo.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:47 PM

      Here comes Destiny.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:47 PM

      I'm guessing we won't hear a price.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:48 PM

        Which makes me think they either have not decided or it is not cheaper than the Xbox One. Probably one of those slides kept in the back pocket depending on the competition.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:49 PM

        That is they are building up to a fatality Mortal Kombat style.

        • reply
          June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

          Or they're gonna throw away all those cheers for $599

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        June 10, 2013 7:49 PM

        That's what I'm starting to assume too. IMO Sony wins on all fronts, but they're probably more expensive too.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

        Why would they, they're ending on a hilariously high note. No need to sour it.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

        If they drop a $399 price point at the end of this, it would be absolutely ridiculous.

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

        It would be ridiculous if they didn't announce one, it's coming out this fall.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:48 PM

      Haven't played multiplayer in ages. Not a big deal but the game collection, I like it.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:49 PM

      Console gaming is not dead, long live console gaming.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:49 PM

      I think myth 2 was the last bungie game i purchased...

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

        I bought Halo 1 and 2, but they got boring really fast.

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:49 PM

      Jason Jones! I used to like you when you were making Myth. :(

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

      No Last Guardian? :(

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

      Was that a game stutter or did my stream skip}

    • reply
      June 10, 2013 7:50 PM

      Oh shit, freezing again. Overheating issues?

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:51 PM

        I think the games are running on pcs?

      • reply
        June 10, 2013 7:51 PM

        i said that about about the last game, i think its over heating

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        June 10, 2013 7:52 PM

        The need Water Cooling

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          June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

          They want you to eventually buy a new one. ;)

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        June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

        beta software on unfinished hardware, not surprising

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      June 10, 2013 7:51 PM

      more hitches...lol someone is getting fired.

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        June 10, 2013 7:52 PM

        if it crashs on a fire fight its over heating

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          June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

          Please. You have no where near enough information to may any such declaration.

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          June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

          It's more likely an I/O issue the way it's hitching. It was doing it during AC whenever you'd expect new data to load.

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            June 10, 2013 7:55 PM

            i noticed this aswell

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            June 11, 2013 5:58 AM

            good thing the game doesn't come out till october. its not like ubi is going to release it like that

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        June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

        IT seems to be when loading new areas if you ask me

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      June 10, 2013 7:52 PM

      How to share games on PS4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

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        June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

        hahaha, awesome..

        Though I do hope they have some way of loaning/gifting digital purchases too.

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        June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

        Haha, they should run that on TV.

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        June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

        Nicely done Sony :)

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      June 10, 2013 7:52 PM

      Nice lighting

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        June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

        you are damn right..the lighting in these next gen games are amazing

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      June 10, 2013 7:52 PM

      destiny looks super generic

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        June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

        I was just thinking it was a little boring

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        June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

        it's supposed to be a borderlands-style loot shooter.

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        June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

        It looked pretty sweet until they started shooting monsters, then it became every other shooter ever.

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          June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

          yep, shooting looks very bland.

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        June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

        Totally, I was pretty hyped up for this too.

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        June 10, 2013 7:58 PM

        Kill zone + halo

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        June 10, 2013 7:59 PM

        ok, a little better by the end

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        June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

        Art design was cool but gameplay looked pretty muzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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      June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

      reskinned halo sup

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      June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

      did they show the console? I joined the stream way late.

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      June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

      I got him! huehuehuehuehue

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      June 10, 2013 7:53 PM

      Looked amazing until the combat started, damn.

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      June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

      I like the look of Destiny. Its multiplayer only?

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        June 10, 2013 7:55 PM

        You're always online, yeah, but you don't have to be playing with someone else, is my understanding.

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      June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

      Shackers, when you game, do you guys talk like this if you are playing co-op? People don't actually play like this in these scripted sequences right?

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        June 10, 2013 7:55 PM

        i got him bro hnngggggg awesomeEEEEE FIST PUMP ME OH YEAH SUCK THAT COCK BRO YEAH

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        June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

        these guys are annoying... next game please

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        June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

        Every Shackbattle is just like that.

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        June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

        It's over done aka hemmed up, not so much.

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        June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

        i admit i do talk like this actually especially if it's something new

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        June 10, 2013 7:57 PM

        That new Tom Clancy game was the funniest. If I was that good online with friends we'd be robbing banks as a career.

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        June 10, 2013 7:57 PM

        No, lol, these guys are goobers.

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        June 10, 2013 8:01 PM

        No we shoot each other with Carl Gustav's yelling "Stick around pancake humper!"

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      June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

      Did he just say grab loot?! Okay... they might have me.

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      June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

      Destiny looks very standard fare so far

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        June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

        great art direction though...

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        June 10, 2013 7:57 PM

        You're out of your god damn mind, balake.

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          June 10, 2013 8:01 PM

          At the time i posted that they were walking through a corridor shooting bland enemies. I take back the standard fare comment but i cant say it did much for me

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        June 10, 2013 8:00 PM

        You guys are crazy. So glad its not fighting look-a-like military dudes.

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      June 10, 2013 7:54 PM

      Is this Wireframe?

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      June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

      Attn Sony, MS: Stop talking during demos

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      June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

      phat lootz and spectacular lighting effects. i am so there.

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      June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

      I can't get into MMO shooters

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      June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

      Destiny looks awesome. I wonder if they'll have split screen co-op in addition to the multiplayer stuff.

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        June 10, 2013 7:57 PM

        Ok, that ship coming in looked FUCKING AWESOME

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        June 10, 2013 7:57 PM

        I agree I want it.

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          June 10, 2013 7:58 PM

          yup. I'm sure I'll end up with all of them, but this looks fun

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        June 10, 2013 7:57 PM

        Where those Wipeout jets!? haha

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        June 10, 2013 7:59 PM

        That's what I was just thinking. My poor kid is going to have to just sit and watch. lol

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      June 10, 2013 7:56 PM

      Seriously, can we have more scripted banter?

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      June 10, 2013 7:57 PM

      Video game demo talk is so awkward.

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      June 10, 2013 7:58 PM

      What's this MMO jig doing in my single player?

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      June 10, 2013 7:58 PM

      Damn! This looks insane. A lot of Halo resemblance but it looks awesome.

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        June 10, 2013 7:59 PM

        Halo multiplayer was the shit. This should be a blast.

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          June 10, 2013 8:00 PM

          Im hearing Halo 4 multi wasnt so good. I have yet to play it (still in the wrapper).

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      June 10, 2013 7:58 PM

      halo meets star wars meets guild wars..i can dig that.

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        June 10, 2013 8:00 PM

        from what I saw, it kinda had a borderlands vibe to it too (but I've never played borderlands before so I could be completely off)

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      June 10, 2013 7:58 PM

      Can't tell for sure but the graphics look a large step up from current gen.

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      June 10, 2013 7:59 PM

      Will Destiny be on the PC?

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        June 10, 2013 7:59 PM

        wikipedia says no

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        June 10, 2013 8:00 PM

        Long-term partnership... PC release seems less likely.

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        June 10, 2013 8:00 PM

        I believe so

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        June 10, 2013 8:20 PM

        When it was announced there was a definitive "no" I thought. I will look for it.

        Also, those interfaces look very computer-oriented rather than console oriented

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      June 10, 2013 7:59 PM

      destiny uses the exact same mechanics as defiance, with the public quests then bosses with glowy bits you have to shoot lol

    • gmd
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      June 10, 2013 7:59 PM

      Destiny is so pretty

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      June 10, 2013 7:59 PM

      Destiny looks amazing

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      June 10, 2013 8:00 PM

      Delayed to 2014? I thought it was a late 2013 game :(

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      June 10, 2013 8:00 PM

      Destiny looks really good.

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      June 10, 2013 8:01 PM

      Laggy control from streaming games, no thanks.

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      June 10, 2013 8:01 PM

      i actually got chills a couple of times during this presentation. been awhile since that's happened.

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        June 10, 2013 8:01 PM

        about what, in particular?

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        June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

        Yep. I'm becoming more and more of a PC gamer but I'll totally buy a ps4 after a year or two after there's more games and a price drop.

        Compared to the Xbox one which I don't see myself buying ever.

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      June 10, 2013 8:01 PM

      Destiny looks similar to Borderlands. I think I'm on board.

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      June 10, 2013 8:01 PM

      I can't say I agree with this cloud gaming approach, I don't think it'll ever come to my region so it'll be useless for me.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Cloud Service... will those PS3 games be free?

      I was hoping he was going to announce that all PS1 and PS2 games were free on the service.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Destiny looks like Guild Wars 2 plus Borderlands 2 plus better art.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      wooowww $399 holy shit

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        June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

        hmm, i bet the eyetoy bundle gets up there in cost, though.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      $400

      BOOM

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      IT'S OVER

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA $399 masterstroke

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      $399 SHUT IT ALL DOWN

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      I bet the guy that's talking right now is like the biggest asshole boss ever.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Thats how they are doing BC on ps4.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Love it so far, but I just don't get this cloud gaming shit. Hate the "streaming" game experience.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      lol

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Fuck, $399. They win.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      399 game over lol

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      It's all over folks, pack it all in

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      shiiiiiiiiiiit

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Yup. That's it.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      And they did.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      OH NO YOU DIDN'T

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      holy shit they did it I can't believe it.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      ROFL holy fuck. Sorry MS.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      399$ !!! BOUGHTED

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      holy shit. fucking rape. RAPE

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        June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

        can i pre-order today? lets do it up

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      OH SHIT!@@!!

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      *BOOM* M-M-M-MONSTER KILL

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      HOLY SHIT

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      welp, Sony just won

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME SONY HOLY SHIT

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Flawless Victory!

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      PS4 bought day one for me...WOO!

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      OH SHIT

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Sony wins again. $399

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Bomb 2 --> $399

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      OLOLOLOL

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Whoa out of nowhere!

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      omg 399 lol

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Ok, there is is

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      Wow ... MS might as well just pack up shop. That's a death blow.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      There it is, headshot.

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      June 10, 2013 8:02 PM

      400 bucks!

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      399!! I'm in.

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      shheeeeeit

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      Sony wins this generation

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      as a Nintendo fan, if they don't bring out something fucking enormous tomorrow, Sony will win this E3 for sure

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        June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

        lol

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        June 10, 2013 8:05 PM

        They're gonna have Persona 5 Wii U exclusive, I'm gonna be very sad, the begrudgingly go buy a Wii U in a week or so.

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          June 10, 2013 8:28 PM

          I don't know how; Atlus just made their first Vita game (Persona 4 Golden), and it took them this long to build an engine on something newer than the PS2 (Catherine was Gamebryo, so that doesn't quite count).

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            June 10, 2013 8:39 PM

            I think SMT4 is a new engine but they're not Persona Team. Atlus is weird.

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        June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

        As a Nintendo fan, I regret to inform you they're not even doing a keynote this year.

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        June 10, 2013 9:00 PM

        hehe, Sony has just won the entire console generation, not just E3 2013. It's going to be a few years at the very least before Nintendo might possibly have something of this magnitude to counter with.

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        June 11, 2013 1:21 AM

        Like a new console?

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      399 I TOLD YOU

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      *****HEAD SHOT******

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      OH SHIT

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      KO!

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      DAMMMMMMMMMMNNN

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      Holy fuck.

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      welp Sony basically used MS as a toilet for a big watery shit this year, slam dunk E3 winner

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      fighting words!

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      Grabs mic from crater and stabs MS in the eye.

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      HEADSHOT'D

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      GAME. SET. MATCH. SONY.

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      Dang. $100 cheaper for hardware that's more powerful and less restrictive. This is all win.

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        June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

        I'm thinking the Kinect increases the cost for MS for sure

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          June 10, 2013 8:05 PM

          Definitely, really glad the eyetoy isn't in the PS4 bundle. I hate that camera garbage.

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          June 10, 2013 8:05 PM

          Considering Kinect while awesome tech has never proven itself particularly useful for gaming, that seems more and more like a poor decision on their part.

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        June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

        I will say it once and I will say it again, stupid fucking Kinect, biggest mistake MS has ever done.

        Such a waste of money and hardware for the Xbox One.

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      FUCKING SOLD!!!

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      but guys, PS4 doesn't have Kinect

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      Murdered!!!!!

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        June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

        The press they are going to get for this too! Wow. GJ Sony!

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      June 10, 2013 8:03 PM

      HOLY FUCK

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      Will buy.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      Winner. You can pack it all up and go home.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      i haven't been this excited about an E3 presentation in a long time. Sony won my heart hands down.

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        June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

        That was a great presentation

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        June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

        I was only here for like the last 25 minutes, and I'm still pumped. Can't wait to watch the whole thing tomorrow.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      W
      T
      F

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      release window???? :(

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        June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

        he said "this holiday season"

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        June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

        You know it will be November as well.

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          June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

          I suspect they are anticipating delays, which is another reason to hold the price down. If they don't hit Christmas they are going to struggle to hold the Xbox off.

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        June 10, 2013 8:05 PM

        he said this holiday

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      Ms forcing the kinect is going to really hurt them... 399 is wicked, I have no interest in the camera stuff.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      Well that was a mic drop if I've ever seen one.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      END http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffCEr327W44 Thank you for Playing

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        June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

        Haha, thank you for posting this :D

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      I feel like Sony is teabagging a sleepy MS right now.

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        June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

        Third console curse, Sony was hungry, MS was complacent.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      holy hell!

      Sony is just going all out with the PS4.

      Double the ram at the last minute + 400$ price point.

      They are really in it for the long shot. Hopefully it delivers otherwise they are going bankrupt

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      at 499 and no DRM I was thinking of maybe buying it. at 399, fuck it, i'll buy it at launch.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      Weren't that impressed with the games they shown (already seen the best ones) but damn the price and anti MS stuff they nailed.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      Call me a nerd but that was exciting to watch.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      XBone briefly twitches and flashes a light on the Kinect before the PS4 puts it down for good.

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      OMG FATALITY

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      June 10, 2013 8:04 PM

      Total domination!!!! I really feel bad for Nintendo at this point.

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        June 10, 2013 8:05 PM

        why, they did it to themselves.

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        June 10, 2013 8:19 PM

        I feel like Nintendo still looks better than MS. At least their console is cheaper, doesn't have DRM, and they always have good first party games.

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      June 10, 2013 8:05 PM

      This was the complete opposite of "599 US DOLLARS" conference. Bravo Sony, made me excited for some next gen consoling.

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        June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

        yeah. they seemed to have learned a lot from last time out.

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      June 10, 2013 8:05 PM

      man, that was such a gigantic bitchslap to MS, there's no way they can continue with their plans to ship a $499 xbox one

      odds on a price change before release?

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        June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

        If not a price change, then some feature changes wouldn't surprise me.

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        June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

        No price change, I bet the PS4 camera is $99, so essentially the same price for both systems.

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          June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

          Except no one gives a shit about Kinect 2 or the Eye.

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          June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

          In the pretend world where you have to buy a PS4 camera, sure. But since it's delivering fantastic-looking games without stupid Kinect bullshit, it's hard to feel like that's a loss.

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          June 10, 2013 8:16 PM

          Nobody gives a shit about the camera just like nobody gives a shit about the Kinect.

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          June 10, 2013 8:19 PM

          Hahaha

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          June 10, 2013 8:28 PM

          noc bout camera shit.

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          June 10, 2013 8:44 PM

          a) that's a fucking joke of a sentiment, no one wants that shit
          b) its $70

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          June 10, 2013 9:49 PM

          But you don't NEED it, it isn't required, it isn't bundled, which is what MS should have done.

          And it's $60, so even if it was bundled it'd still be $40 less than what MS is offering at this point.

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        June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

        There is no way they would let what Sony does dictate the prices they set.

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        June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

        Probably not, but odds are there is an XBox Live subsidized model.

        MS is in trouble.

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        June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

        tbf let's remember sony still came back from a larger price point

        but man MS is gonna have a hard time in the next couple years at least.

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      June 10, 2013 8:05 PM

      "xbox, get wrecked"

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      June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

      Biggest unanswered question regarding the PS4?

      For me it's the load times / can a disc be installed / is it required in the drive? etc

      Hoping it's not going to be a repeat of the PS3.

      http://www.shacknews.com/chatty?id=30308186#item_30308186

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        June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

        tons of ps3 games require installs

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          June 10, 2013 8:12 PM

          I know that all too well. Like I said on the PS3 it's a half-assed solution to get around BD read times, it's rarely the whole game being installed, and those games are still slow to load as it will read from the disc for the rest of the data.

          Now I know digital games will run entirely from the hard drive, but I'm wondering if you'll be able to fully install any disc based game ( like you currently on the 360 for example ), and if the disc is required to be in the drive regardless. I'd also like to know what speed the BD drive is also.

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      June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

      Whoa, lets hope it all works out for sony

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      June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

      Pre-ordered.

      MS fucked up. They had a good advantage with American buyers and squandered it.

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      June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

      Not bad , i guess I'll have to get both consoles this generation.

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      June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

      I was already leaning toward Sony but they sealed the deal tonight.

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      June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

      PS4 pre-order
      http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BGA9WK2

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      June 10, 2013 8:06 PM

      And its a win for SONY!!!!

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      June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

      i missed most of it, but the $399. can someone tl;dr whats so awesome about ps4?

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        June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

        see the thread above?

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        June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

        no restrictions on used games and no requirement to be online for authentication

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        June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

        TLDR version: Take every bad thing from the MS conference and reverse it.

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        June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

        clearly the DRM stuff tickles the fancy of many people on the internet, but otherwise i thought the games they showed were all pretty weak.

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          June 10, 2013 8:25 PM

          I disagree. Destiny was pretty underwhelming, but most everything else was really good looking.

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        June 10, 2013 8:34 PM

        1) You can play the fucking thing OFFLINE, as has been tradition since the beginning of time.

        2) You can play used games and swap games with your friends, as has been tradition since the beginning of time.

        3) Better hardware. This step will take a while to kick in, but give the system about 3 years and you'll see some breathtaking stuff.

        4) Social features that tie into gaming, such as: watch your friend play his game via live stream to decide if it's a game you might want to try; share videos and screenshots from your games; let a friend play your game remotely to get you past tough spots.

        5) More and more interesting exclusives.

        6) $100 less than Xbox One.

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      June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

      Finally, Microsoft can exit from the games sector. The sooner the better.

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      June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

      daaaaaayuuuum

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      June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

      Thank you, your order has been placed. Amazon lol

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        June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

        Same. :D

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        June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

        third.

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        June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

        I'm feeling kinda crazy and going to preorder. If I go sane at some point, can I cancel?

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          June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

          of course it's amazon! I just can't believe $399. That did it for me. Plus HAY YOU CAN PLAY USED GAMES YOU'RE NOT A CRIMINAL. yay :)

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          June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

          Yeah they do not charge until they ship.

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            June 10, 2013 8:11 PM

            Is that true? Oh fuck it then.

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          June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

          yes and they don't charge til it ships. No reason not to.

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          June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

          its cheaper than an iphone.

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          June 10, 2013 8:11 PM

          Should. Won't be unable to be canceled until it ships.

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        June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

        only thing stopping me from preordering is wanting to guarantee day one delivery

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          June 10, 2013 8:11 PM

          I thought about that too. It says "release day delivery."

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        June 10, 2013 8:12 PM

        God damnit, I just did too

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        June 10, 2013 8:17 PM

        Can't believe I just pre-ordered.

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        June 10, 2013 8:25 PM

        Bought.

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        June 10, 2013 10:33 PM

        Yep, first console I've ever preordered, going all the way back to the 8-bits. Sony fucking crushed it on all points.

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      June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

      $399 (well 460 if you include the mandatory PS+ sub) SIGN ME UP

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        June 10, 2013 8:20 PM

        PS plus is mandatory?

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          June 10, 2013 8:20 PM

          People are saying it's required for multiplayer now, I missed that part.

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            June 10, 2013 8:33 PM

            it was listed on the big screen at the bottom

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        June 10, 2013 8:28 PM

        PS+ is $50.

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      June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

      They fucking owned it today. Day 1 purchase for me.

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        June 10, 2013 8:29 PM

        Well I pre-ordered one

        1) Cheaper then XBone
        2) More consumer friendly DRM
        3) Sony has a really strong group of several first party developers
        4) Indie games support. While I will have a gaming PC to play all of these I do want to support it. Plus I may get a Vita down the road so having some of those games on the go could be really cool to

        While I have little doubt I'll get an XBone overtime as they get their exclusives, however my game time is so limited right now with my new job (travel each week) and my shitty home life that I'll do just fine with my PS4, PC and 3DS when I do have time to game and get one down the road after a price drop and some really good exclusives.

        Great conference Sony and thanks for focusing on games


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      June 10, 2013 8:07 PM

      Well, I revise my previous statement. 2013 and beyond will be PC and PS4. maybe Vita, jk

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        June 10, 2013 8:12 PM

        Vita is pretty sweet. Especially with the Plus sub.

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      June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

      Just preordered my PS4 on Amazon.

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        June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

        same, to be fair I pre ordered the xbox also. Can cancel up until shipment anyway. I'll keep the PS4 for sure though.

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      June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

      Let's be honest, the best coup here is $399

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      June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

      Wow, wow, wow. Congratulations Sony, you just schooled Microsoft.

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      June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

      Thank you, your order has been placed.

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        June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

        Fuck me I'm such a consumer whore I did too

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          June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

          They are doing 100% everything right so far. I am not a fan of the PS3 at all and I just preorder this thing day 1. Total reversal from last gen. I have zero fucking interest in that Xbox One anymore.

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            June 10, 2013 8:12 PM

            Personally, I'm waiting for a killer game before I commit, but considering that it'll probably be Persona 5 or GT6PS4, and that I'll never buy an XBone, I'm almost certainly getting a PS4 in the next two years, for some Japanese game.

            Oh yeah, and probably the Wii U for Bayonetta 2.

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        June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

        Likewise. *high five* What games are going to be launch so i can preorder those? (Besides Madden)

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          June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

          FF1500 looks pretty awesome in an over the top anime fun way

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        June 10, 2013 8:11 PM

        [high five] same man, even took the import hit, have one for sure \m/

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      June 10, 2013 8:08 PM

      Amazing, so happy Sony isn't embracing Xbox One's anti-consumer bullshit.

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      June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

      Wow I can't believe they actually came out and did everything right.

      Only thing I found missing was a good look at the UI. Hopefully this is something they will go over after the conference.

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        June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

        That's one of the easiest things they can refine from now to near-launch. Hopefully there's still a priority on lightning-fast response, considering that was a priority in the XMB (even if intuitive menu placement wasn't as high a priority), and that Microsoft still has a legacy of sluggish Dashboards haunting them.

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      June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

      so, sony has the better plan for DRM and a better price point. though, i really dont care about the stuff MS put in place for the xbox one.

      I cant say that any of the games they showed off really excited me though :/

      i like integrated twitch on the xbox, and the controller has always been better. right now i feel like the few exclusives that remain are a bit more interesting for me on xbox, and I think the TV stuff is cool.

      I'm a little disappointed in what sony showed game wise, because going into it i was more excited for it i think

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        June 10, 2013 8:18 PM

        The exclusive games were kind of underwhelming from both sides, though I do appreciate Sony's interest in indie development. That's going to pay off big time over the console's life with many awesome games.

        Can't say I care about streaming console games at all. I know some people are all up on that stuff, but twitch or ustream, don't give a fuck. Same with the TV garbage. blah.

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          June 10, 2013 8:20 PM

          its nice to see them support indie devs, but it doesnt really do anything for me. :/

          i guess it might boil down to exclusives?

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            June 10, 2013 8:23 PM

            Well, exclusives were a big part of it last gen. For me it wasn't just the AAAs but the smaller downloadable games on XBLA and PSN as well.

            I bought played just as many of those as I did the full releases, can't say their increased support for indies does nothing for me. It's more exciting than almost anything either company has put forward imo.

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        June 10, 2013 8:18 PM

        Game wise, I agree. The best games shown tonight were indie titles and those are also (assuming here) available on the PC, what's the point?

        That said the better price point and lack of DRM is pushing me towards the PS4.

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          June 10, 2013 8:21 PM

          the more i think about it, the less i want to spend money on either at launch.

          i already play so few games as it is, it sort of seems like a waste. i'll probably let the dust settle for a year or so and see which better fits me.

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      June 10, 2013 8:09 PM

      Great presentation. Sony is killing it. Microsoft just seems so completely tone deaf now.

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        June 10, 2013 8:11 PM

        MS is tone deaf across the board. Office 2013, Win 8, and now the XBox One. The trifecta is complete.

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      June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

      Fucking Amazon canada won't let me pre-order!!!!

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      June 10, 2013 8:10 PM

      Thank you, your order has been placed. - Amazon

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      June 10, 2013 8:11 PM

      I just bought: 'PlayStation 4' by Sony
      www.amazon.com


      Yea, did't

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      June 10, 2013 8:12 PM

      Good presentation and Sony did exactly what they should have done in the wake of MS's PR fumbles.

      But I'd still lean towards bumping up my video card and choosing a console in two years. If I do buy one at launch it'll be a PS4, though.

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      June 10, 2013 8:12 PM

      Pre-ordered a PS4, odds are I'll be canceling my xb1 pre-order before launch. MS is gonna be in a world of hurt this console generation, it's probably best to wait and pick up that system later.

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      June 10, 2013 8:12 PM

      Everyone who's preordering from Amazon... don't forget the two year coverage Amazon is offering for $33 or so.

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        June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

        most credit cards will extend the one year manufacturer warranty to two years anyway.

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        June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

        Can't add the amazon coverage in Canada :(

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        June 10, 2013 8:18 PM

        the square trade one, right?

        do you get a brand new console or some refurb shit?

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          June 10, 2013 8:32 PM

          Brand new. Had a friend with a faulty PS3 and he got a brand new one.

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      June 10, 2013 8:13 PM

      Thank you, your order has been placed.

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      June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

      PRE ORDER CONFIRMED.

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      June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

      at this point Microsoft would be insane not to change their launch plans

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      June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

      Removed amazon Xbox and added PS4. Well done Sony.

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      June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

      How to share games on PS4.

      LOL

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kWSIFh8ICaA

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        June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

        Is there a link to this that plays on an iPad?

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        June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

        LOL Hardcore LOL :) ZINGGGgggggggg!

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        June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

        It's just so good. I'm not sure how Microsoft dropped the ball so completely in their messaging, but Sony is knocking it out of the park.

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        June 10, 2013 8:19 PM

        ahahaha. I think I might love Sony

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        June 10, 2013 8:22 PM

        loooooooollllllllll

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        June 10, 2013 8:28 PM

        Yep that's great

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      June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

      Anyone think MS is going to do damage control and change a bunch of stuff considering the BOMB Sony dropped?

      Will or can they back track a bunch of stuff?

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        June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

        Maybe, but I wouldn't count on it. Microsoft almost seems to have a disdain for their customers lately.

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          June 10, 2013 8:17 PM

          They have a disdain for almost all of their customer segments (consumer gaming, consumer keyboard and mouse OS, enterprise software). If they were any more hated by their customer base, they would be Oracle.

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        June 10, 2013 8:16 PM

        For the price? I don't know; perhaps it's too late to eat the costs.

        For the used game stance? Hopefully; us gamers were screaming out loud at how dumb it was, and MS wasn't listening until their largest competitor completely schooled them. All they have to do is change some software policies.

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        June 10, 2013 8:16 PM

        With less than 6 months to release? Nothing of consequence is likely to change. Especially given the enormous pressure they're probably feeling from the other side (publishers) to keep all the DRM stuff.

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        June 10, 2013 11:04 PM

        I doubt it, but never say never.

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      June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

      Pre-Ordered. I'm a consumer whore.

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      June 10, 2013 8:14 PM

      Thank you, your order has been placed.

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      June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

      Man, the whole PRISM story + mandatory Kinect completely and utterly fucked Microsoft.

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        June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

        yea, thats the reason why

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        June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

        uh, yea, that's what did it.

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        June 10, 2013 8:17 PM

        if anyone thinks this is an issue, they are literally retarded.

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          June 10, 2013 8:18 PM

          Welcome to the mainstream consumer broseph.

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        June 10, 2013 8:20 PM

        Is anyone actually worried about that? I'm thinking ps4 for $100 cheaper and more powerful.

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        June 10, 2013 8:20 PM

        There's quite more to it, but that was one of their downfalls. The DRM, the anti-used game policy, the price. There were plenty of reasons, and Sony destroyed them on EVERY SINGLE ONE

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        June 10, 2013 8:21 PM

        No, Microsoft fucked Microsoft. Mostly everything is controlled via your ISP anyway and your devices you use on a daily basis.

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      June 10, 2013 8:15 PM

      Wonder if gamestop will offer a special trade in deal if you bring in a 360 towards a ps4? If anything, just to be symbolic.

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      June 10, 2013 8:16 PM

      how dare you guys hate on microsoft so senselessly and irrationally like you do

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        June 10, 2013 8:19 PM

        It's funny because the shack is one of the most pro-Xbox sites I know, people on NeoGAF must be absolutely losing their shit.

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          June 10, 2013 8:36 PM

          they would if the site was up

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      June 10, 2013 8:17 PM

      OnLive / Streaming gamers: When your game is streaming as well as it ever does, is there still perceptible lag / compression artifacting? I'm very curious if Sony's Gaikai partnership could effectively produce the first game console to span three console generations.

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        June 10, 2013 8:20 PM

        There is no way a streaming game can be as responsive, it's just not possible. At best it will be similar to playing something like Path of Exile when it rubberbands.

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      June 10, 2013 8:17 PM

      The only disappointment is the lack of Fallout 4. Not that was a given.

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      June 10, 2013 8:17 PM

      i usually don't feel like "voting with your dollars" ever really makes a difference, but I bet this one is going to sting

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      June 10, 2013 8:19 PM

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btw1eh4mitQ Sony obviously didn't get the memo.

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      June 10, 2013 8:19 PM

      I'm pretty of amused at all the people who were sure Sony's DRM would be identical (because it's obviously the publishers!) and that it couldn't possibly come in at $400

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        June 10, 2013 8:20 PM

        To be fair Sony actually said it's up to publishers, but they even went back on that.

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          June 10, 2013 8:26 PM

          Technically this generation is also up to publishers; I think people (on both sides) were reading into that comment in whichever way that better fit their point of view.

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        June 10, 2013 8:23 PM

        Thank you, your order has been placed.

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        June 10, 2013 8:24 PM

        Thank you, your order has been placed.

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        June 10, 2013 8:25 PM

        Do they charge on shipping?

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          June 10, 2013 8:25 PM

          $12 for their fastest shipping option.

          You can get the Super Saver for free as well.

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          June 10, 2013 8:25 PM

          you can choose free shipping, but even the 2nd fastest option is only like $6 (for me anyway)

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            June 10, 2013 8:26 PM

            I mean do I have to pay the $399 now. Futureshop doesn't charge pre-orders until they ship.

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              June 10, 2013 8:27 PM

              no charge until it ships, can cancel whenever

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        June 10, 2013 9:03 PM

        And sold out. Or it just shows that now that I have it ordered?

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      June 10, 2013 8:21 PM

      Hopefully we hear some final hardware specs like HDD size and a concrete release date this week and I'd be completely set and satisfied

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      June 10, 2013 8:24 PM

      Now Sony needs to get this out the door in a timely fashion. They can't let Microsoft get too much of a head start.

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      June 10, 2013 8:24 PM

      has anyone placed an order and not gotten a confirmation email? are they swamped?

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        June 10, 2013 8:25 PM

        auto-confirm@amazon.ca <auto-confirm@amazon.ca>11:23 PM (1 minute ago)

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        June 10, 2013 8:27 PM

        Received mine.

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        June 10, 2013 8:27 PM

        Also got mine from .ca

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        June 10, 2013 8:28 PM

        Amazon is swamped. It took 10 minutes for my XBone preorder email to get through, still waiting on PS4 as well, but I'm not worried.

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        June 10, 2013 8:30 PM

        No confirmation email here, but its in my Orders tab and I have an order number so not worried.

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        June 10, 2013 8:34 PM

        got mine from Amazon Canada immediately

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      June 10, 2013 8:25 PM

      I'd like to toast the survival of shacknews with a pre-order of the PS4. Thank you sirs.

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        June 10, 2013 8:30 PM

        I preordered as well. Marketing at its finest.

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        June 10, 2013 8:40 PM

        i have never preordered a console before, but everything just felt right about this. the price point, the policies, the games. everything.

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      June 10, 2013 8:29 PM

      http://www.xboxdone.com/

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      June 10, 2013 8:31 PM

      this FAR surpassed what i expected and i am really excited. HOWEVER, remember when the PS3 was $599 and you had to attack the enemy's weak spot for massive damage? now seven years later they are neck and neck with xbox in the US and slightly ahead globally

      anyone calling the console battle of the next 5-8 years over because of the news thus far is being extremely hyperbolic and excitable.

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        June 10, 2013 8:33 PM

        I don't think people care about the next 5-8, but rather the next 2-3 years. The point is what matters right now, and that is how the world works.

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        June 10, 2013 8:35 PM

        Possibly, but we also know that the hardware in the PS4 is quite a bit better so unless MS can really tap into the cloud like they say 1st party Sony games are going to look awesome down the line.

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        June 10, 2013 8:36 PM

        lol, most of these clowns are buying both systems anyways, its just a bunch of pent up butthurt rage from the 360 dominating the beginning part of the last generation, and in the end it was even, and it will most likely be even in the end this generation. When its all said an done, neither console is offering anything spectacular, especially to anyone with a PC which was bought within the last 2-3 years.

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        June 10, 2013 8:36 PM

        Oh definitely. But as long as MS keeps the crazy DRM and such on the Xbox One I'll be staying away. If they reverse their policy a few years later and the price drops I might consider picking one up if it has any games I want to play exclusive to it.

        One thing that is worth noting this go around, however, is if the spec rumors are true in conjunction with what we already know, then the PS4 may have more horsepower to it, meaning in the long haul it may be a less attractive purchase if the cross platform games are simply better on the PS4. That's totally an up in the air thing mind you until we know more.

        Part of what helped Sony's late game surge, besides having a strong international presence versus MS, was improvements to their APIs so it got better to program for and release comparable games to the 360 on. We could see a reverse effect here if MS's console is both trickier to program for and has less horsepower.

        What matters to me though is Sony taking the lead up front so we kill this DRM bullshit MS is trying to push.

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        June 10, 2013 8:40 PM

        over time they will of course equalize out... but for that launch window/first 2-3 yr period, right now Sony has ALL the momentum

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          June 10, 2013 8:43 PM

          fully agree unless we hear some serious news before the xbox launch. i just feel it's premature to "call" the war but of course gamers are super melodramatic and hyper.

          actually more of the PS4 titles shown interest me but mainly because i have a decent PC and they're less likely to appear there.

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        June 10, 2013 8:41 PM

        Don't forget that the economy is not in a super good shape - Europe in particular is going through turbulent times. That, plus Sony being stronger there, and having a cheaper console, will make people think twice before buying a XBONE or even buying both consoles.

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          June 11, 2013 3:05 AM

          XBONE does seem very US-centric. Many of their features will not work in Europe or in some European countries (cable TV, NFL, some of the apps like Netflix).

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        June 10, 2013 8:43 PM

        I'm actually curious about what games people are excited enough about to warrant preordering either of them.

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          June 10, 2013 8:45 PM

          To me the fact that Sony deliberated pointed out their support for indie games and even showed some made the decision easy. But yeah, I don't expect to get a ton out of it at first at least i'll still get more than my dusty Wii U.

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          June 10, 2013 8:45 PM

          Killzone will probably be impressive and Knack looks interesting? Otherwise, I just haven't gotten a new console in a long time so it's exciting. :D I would be getting one soon after anyways for Infamous and Destiny and it's not like the price will drop by then.

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          June 10, 2013 8:47 PM

          I like playing games, I like new technology and toys. I pre-ordered both of them, not sure what games I will get at launch. They both look cool, and I can't wait to mess with new toys.

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          June 10, 2013 8:47 PM

          Of rme it would be Destiny, Watchdogs (if it doesn't come out on PC or the console version is equivalent), The Divided (or Divisor - whatever it was called), some of the indie titles, among some others.

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          June 10, 2013 8:47 PM

          we're not even sure about launch lineups at this point. there were probably more PS4 games that piqued my interest than xbox titles, but then again i have no idea what's coming or available.

          also they slipped in PS+ required for multi but since the microsoft DRM shitstorm they probably knew no one would bat an eye.

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            June 10, 2013 8:48 PM

            if they keep the perks of PS+ going then the $5/mo will be more than worth it. and that's still 50% of Live's announced price.

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              June 10, 2013 8:49 PM

              i'd be pretty sure of a price increase if they keep the perks. i don't care - if they make things slicker it's fully worth it (xbl too)

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              June 10, 2013 8:49 PM

              Live changed to $120/yr? huh??

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                June 10, 2013 8:50 PM

                oh maybe not. for some reason I read $10. misinformed!

                but that reminds me, I need to cancel my live.

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                  June 10, 2013 8:52 PM

                  Oh, I guess it is $10 a month if you're paying month to month. No one does that when 12 month subs can be got on sale.

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                  June 10, 2013 8:54 PM

                  But then you won't get ASS2 and HALO 3!


                  lol

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          June 10, 2013 8:49 PM

          For me it was the promise of variety, rather than the promise of 3-4 samey fps shooters and a bunch of sports games that Xbox showered their presentation with.

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          June 10, 2013 8:50 PM

          yeah there's too much uncertainty about what of what we saw today (from both) are actually launch titles (for the ones that even showed gameplay to be excited about)

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          June 10, 2013 8:54 PM

          I'm excited about Watch Dogs and Dead Rising 3, neither of which are exclusives. The only exclusive that really grabbed my attention was Project Spark which is an Xbox One exclusive. Madden also looked good, although I've stayed away from it for a few years now seeing as I always seem to hate it and regret my purchase.

          All that said, I am uncertain which system I'll ultimately end up with. I pre-ordered them both and will decide later. Although I've never liked the PS controllers and I'm not counting on that changing but I hope I can try out a store demo before they are actually launched. I also never buy used games and I rarely sell my games so that isn't a big deal to me, and I am in favor of supporting developers as much as I can.

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          June 10, 2013 8:56 PM

          This is a very good point, especially since there is no BC.

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            June 10, 2013 8:56 PM

            but basically, at least Madden + Direct TV NFL

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          June 10, 2013 9:04 PM

          I'm primarily pre-ordering because my launch PS3 is dying, and not having a netflix + bluray box in the house will cause relationship drama. It's also a way of voting with my wallet, as Sony is being fairly pro-consumer this time around (no, I never thought I would write that either).

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          June 10, 2013 9:07 PM

          I haven't pre-ordered, but being an aussie I've always wanted a Mad Max game :-\

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        June 10, 2013 8:49 PM

        They didn't to have as stark a contrast as this match-up seems to have. Hell the one thing that really helped the PS3 at that price if I remember right was it was basically the cheapest blu-ray player on the market at the time. The Xbox One has a fuck ton of baggage.

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      June 10, 2013 8:32 PM

      I hope they release day 1 preorder # comparisons or something. Judging by the 2 threads it's pretty lol worthy already

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        June 10, 2013 8:34 PM

        I wouldn't read TOO much into what this tiny community says about these things. The Wii would have been a massive failure, the iPhone would have been DOA, etc.

        This place is a tiny community that is prone to massive hyperbole. Lets see how the general public reacts when it comes to actual sales.

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          June 10, 2013 8:41 PM

          Going by the Giantbomb/Gamespot/Twitch chat it was also pretty lol. These are the people who are going to pre order consoles.

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            June 10, 2013 8:45 PM

            eh, it is still such a microcosm of gamers, the ones who care enough to troll around online communities.

            I work with a bunch of people who play games way more than I do honestly, but don't spend time on these communities. They were all excited after the Xbox announcement, and have no idea what is special about the PS4. They pre-ordered the Xbox One, and won't look at the PS4. Just a small anecdote, far from conclusive either way, but don't take these forums as gospel truth. Gaming communities are the minority. CoD and Madden players are the majority.

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              June 10, 2013 8:57 PM

              Eh Microsoft will probably get its ass handed to it in print by just about every news organization.

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                June 10, 2013 8:59 PM

                Also most people will probably go with the cheaper console anyway if they can play Madden and Call of Duty on it.

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            June 10, 2013 8:46 PM

            youre talking about thousands out of a sample of tens of millions that will eventually buy the console. as much as people would like to think, gaming website communities are not a true representation of what will actually happen.

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              June 10, 2013 8:55 PM

              yes, clearly a gaming website with threads dedicated to both consoles today is a terrible place to get a perspective from and wondering what pre-order #'s are.

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                June 10, 2013 8:58 PM

                Hell I owned a 360 exclusively the last generation and probably would have bought this next one had Microsoft not gone completely insane.

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                June 10, 2013 9:03 PM

                I posted in the PS4 thread and not the Xbox One thread. Why? Because the PS4 conference was in the evening while I wasn't at work and I could actually sit down and watch it. Does that mean I'm in favor of the PS4, no.

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            June 10, 2013 8:49 PM

            I think there's a decent contingent of CoD/Madden guys in that group who're largely unrepresented here

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              June 10, 2013 8:53 PM

              I would have to wager most Madden players play on Playstation.

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                June 10, 2013 9:21 PM

                thats kind of a weird assumption to jump to. Why?

                A quick google search seems to indicate Madden sold significantly better on Xbox than PS3 for 10, 11, 12 and 13. I don't have any idea how accurate the data is, but it is probably more accurate than wild guesses. :)

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                  June 10, 2013 9:34 PM

                  From my personal experiences with madden players is all. Everyone I know that has been die hard sports games have always played on PS, dunno why.

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          June 11, 2013 1:28 AM

          Sure, people commenting on the internet are in the vast minority of game/console purchasers. But on the other hand, literally every person who buys/sells used this generation and/or still rents games (be it via Gamefly or a local store) has only one option next gen if they want to continue doing that.

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          June 11, 2013 3:08 AM

          No, opinion of nerds and early adopters is very important. When your family or non-nerd friend want to buy a new console they will come to you to ask for advice.

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      June 10, 2013 8:32 PM

      I really had no intention of preordering, but I just did. Nice work Sony.

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        June 10, 2013 8:35 PM

        Same here. I play PC mainly and touch my ps3 on occasion, but for that price and lack of the drm shit that MS is pushing I'm willing to support Sony and buy one.

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      June 10, 2013 8:35 PM

      Its confusing why MS has such a hard on for championing DRM. I feel like the market is pretty much pushing its way there with digital purchases anyway. If I can buy every game through my PS4 I will be doing it. Just seems like a stupid thing to latch onto.

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        June 10, 2013 8:45 PM

        I don't, considering their corporate culture and how things have been changing over there. Look at Win8. Look at GfWL. Or at Windows Phone. The entertainment division was more or less isolated until a couple of years ago, but once it started earning money and visibility, I bet it was taken over by people that don't have a good grasp of the gaming market.

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      June 10, 2013 8:35 PM

      Pre-Ordered. The last time i got a console on launch day was the Wii and i just showed up at 9 AM with no pre-order, before that i dont think i ever got a console on day one

      Barring any shenanigans that might significantly change Sony's policy on DRM and the like i feel i should support the PS4 just to send a message.

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        June 10, 2013 8:42 PM

        Yeah, that's what I'm doing! I'm sending a message.

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      June 10, 2013 8:39 PM

      PS4 will be awesome on military bases with limited connectivity.

      "If you enjoy playing single-player games offline, PS4 won't require you to check in online periodically. And it won't stop working if you haven't authenticated within 24 hours."

      http://kotaku.com/ps4-games-wont-have-many-of-the-restrictions-of-xbox-o-512477859

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      June 10, 2013 8:39 PM

      finalSpart4n weeps.

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        June 10, 2013 8:43 PM

        haha. who's character account is that again?

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          June 10, 2013 9:33 PM

          I don't think it was a character account. Someone found a bio with pictures from another site.

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      June 10, 2013 8:40 PM

      What I find most refreshing about Sony's E3 conference is that they appear to have learned from how badly they fucked up in the early stages of the PS3's lifecycle. They set their console at a reasonable price and aimed it at gamers and game developers. I'm impressed. Props to Sony.

      Microsoft, on the other hand, seems to have studied Sony's fuck-ups and thought, "Damn, we should be taking notes. This is great stuff!"

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        June 10, 2013 8:43 PM

        People were acting like Sony doing this was complete crazy talk. But seriously Microsoft teed this up for them to the point that they'd be insane not to outright undercut them.

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        June 10, 2013 8:45 PM

        Like I said before, much of Microsoft's employees seem to be coddled Seattle suburbanites who think bandwidth grows on trees, the cloud solves everything, and publishers who shout ceaselessly that used games are killing the market are more important than gamers who can afford 2 or less $60 games per year. And they previously kept denying that their viewpoint was callous, until Sony stood up and offered more in return for lesser demands.

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        June 10, 2013 8:52 PM

        Yep, did anyone else catch the giant crab quip?

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      June 10, 2013 8:42 PM

      preordered. fuck it.

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      June 10, 2013 8:46 PM

      Anyone know where I can watch this presentation? I wasn't able to see it live :(

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      June 10, 2013 8:50 PM

      I wonder if Sony's press conference was late because they were adjusting the price to beat MS...?

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        June 10, 2013 8:51 PM

        It was scheduled after Microsoft weeks in advance.

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          June 10, 2013 8:53 PM

          That's not what he meant. They were like 10 minutes late starting.

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            June 10, 2013 8:54 PM

            One of the streams mentioned delays getting everyone seated.

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        June 10, 2013 8:53 PM

        I'm guessing they probably didn't make a last minute decision to cut $100s of millions of revenue.

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          June 10, 2013 9:07 PM

          Are you sure mwasher? What evidence do you have? They could of held an emergency board meeting in those ten minutes and made the decision.

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            June 10, 2013 9:08 PM

            I SAID IT WAS A GUESS FORTY-FIVES. A GUESS.

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              June 10, 2013 9:08 PM

              how dare you question me >:O

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                June 10, 2013 9:14 PM

                Haha I just like to think how absurd it is to think like that. It shows people have zero clue how high up the corporate ladder these decisions are made. We're talking what could amount to a 100 million dollar revenue decision over the consoles life span and they are making it at presentation time!

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          June 10, 2013 9:17 PM

          I highly doubt that's what happend but It wouldn't be unprecedented I don't think. If memory serves correctly, Sega dropped the price of I think the Saturn in response to an unexpected price drop by Sony during an E3 years ago.

          And it's not like it would have to be a last minute decision, they could have had several price scenarios laid out and they pick an option based on what MS announced. But yeah, I doubt the PS4 price was set just a few minutes before the presentation.

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        June 10, 2013 8:56 PM

        Yeah, they just got Kaz Hirai sign up on an operating loss of 10 million $

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          June 10, 2013 8:57 PM

          They sold both their Tokyo and New York office buildings for $2 billion; that should cover it.

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        June 10, 2013 9:50 PM

        There were rumors going around weeks before that PS4 would be cheaper. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=570793

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      June 10, 2013 8:51 PM

      Preordered. I love competition. The used games thing is brilliant.