Xbox One rebounds after DRM reversal, but PS4 still leads poll

Unsurprisingly, Xbox One has become more attractive since dropping its used game and online policy. However, it still lags behind PS4 due to its higher price.

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Less than one week after E3, Microsoft announced that Xbox One would no longer place any restrictions on used games and would no longer require regular internet access. The reversal isn't particularly surprising, especially after the tremendous backlash the company received due to their policies.

We've been tracking interest in both next-gen consoles amongst GameFly fans, and it's clear that Microsoft's backpedaling has helped it win back some fans. Whereas last week only 18 percent of surveyed individuals were more interested in the One, the figure jumped to 27 percent this week.

Fans like Andre Smith point out that "X1 was always my go to. Only thing they needed to change was the offline playing of games." Kevin Dieudonne says that "Xbox games are better than PS4" and that "all Sony had was the DRM."

However, while Xbox One has rebounded a bit, the figures still heavily favor PlayStation 4. For some, the damage has already been done. Zachary Gearwar told us that he still plans on getting a PS4 because "Sony knew gamers never wanted any DRM restrictions from the beginning; Microsoft merely caved in fear of losing their customers." Others are still swayed by the price difference between the two consoles. "I can use the extra 100 bucks to buy a game," Jeff Gregoire told us, noting PS4's lower price point. Brigham Bush points to Microsoft's "restrictions on indie devs," adding "I also refuse to have a Kinect."

We'll let this poll simmer down for a bit, as we get closer to the holiday season. However, it's clear that Microsoft's decision to back away from its most onerous policies has paid off. There's still a long way to go before Xbox One can win public opinion, but at least the console war doesn't seem so one-sided anymore.

From The Chatty
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    June 21, 2013 11:30 AM

    Andrew Yoon posted a new article, Xbox One rebounds after DRM reversal, but PS4 still leads poll.

    Unsurprisingly, Xbox One has become more attractive since dropping its used game and online policy. However, it still lags behind PS4 due to its higher price.

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      June 21, 2013 11:36 AM

      Weird how many people are willing to jump back in bed with the devil just because he brings out a cheap bottle of wine.

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        June 21, 2013 11:41 AM

        That's.. beautiful

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        June 21, 2013 11:55 AM

        it's all cheap wine, and they're all the devil. they all care about profit and retaining customer base and they all want you to buy massive amounts of DLC and day-one titles. NONE OF THEM CARE ABOUT YOU with the exception of keeping you happy in their ecosystem to make purchases.

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          June 22, 2013 3:02 PM

          But that goes for everyone. The customers that make their purchase decision based mostly on price are concerned mostly about what? Their own personal wallet.

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        June 21, 2013 12:02 PM

        Companies should be rewarded for listening to consumers. Were I interested in the Xbox One games, I would preorder one now.

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          June 21, 2013 12:17 PM

          At the end of the day it was retail pressure and low pre-order numbers that caused a change in policy, not MS actually listening to or wanting to concede to consumer demand from a vocal minority, and to believe this won't come back in some form after MS invested a ton of time and money into developing a system to manage and control used game distribution is pretty crazy, we're not done with this by a long shot IMO.

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            June 21, 2013 12:25 PM

            Exactly. MS didn't listen to their costumers, they listened to the sound of Sony ripping them a new one

            (stole this from gamespot comment)

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              June 21, 2013 12:29 PM

              You cannot offer that opinion as fact because: you have no idea if you are right or not. The facts here, is that Microsoft changed their stance, to match the desires of the public (which they reenforced via their buying habits).

              And we should applaud them for doing that. Sony certainly didn't with the PS3 until well after it launched.

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                June 21, 2013 1:40 PM

                But your opinion isn't fact either...

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                  June 21, 2013 4:08 PM

                  Except it is exactly what Microsoft said was behind their choice.
                  It's right there: "Since unveiling our plans for Xbox One, my team and I have heard directly from many of you, read your comments and listened to your feedback. I would like to take the opportunity today to thank you for your assistance in helping us to reshape the future of Xbox One."

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                    June 22, 2013 2:09 AM

                    Even if true, how else would the PR department spin it?

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                      June 22, 2013 3:05 PM

                      Ya why would they say something that made them look bad? That would be retarded. They have shareholders.

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              June 22, 2013 4:07 AM

              And what's the mechanism by which Sony ripped them a new one? Customers flocking to PS4 preorders.

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            June 21, 2013 12:49 PM

            It sure is what it isn't, and isn't what it is.

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            June 21, 2013 12:53 PM

            I think you have a very warped perception of what caused Microsoft to take this position to start with. They were responding to a wish-list of developer and publisher requests! That's it! You want to know why Microsoft did something that (you think) is incredibly stupid? They were catering to their publishers at least as much as to their consumers. Don't think for a moment that Activision, or Ubi, or EA or anybody else did not love the idea of getting a slice of the resale pie and all but eliminating piracy with an always-on verification to boot. None of them wanted to take the heat along with Microsoft after this development became publicized, obviously.

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          June 21, 2013 12:23 PM

          I would wait to see what happens in 3 years when they re-implement all their silly DRM. They should still be ignored for forcing the Kinect on everyone.

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            June 22, 2013 5:55 AM

            TRUTH. No way I'd buy at launch after Thompson and rrod, but I was hoping to pick one up after a few revisions. Maybe they'll make a kinect free one later.

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        June 22, 2013 2:40 PM

        I want this tattooed. Tramp stamp or across chest?

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        June 22, 2013 3:01 PM

        I dont think it's weird, I think it's totally normal. It's unfortunate though that that behavior is normal.

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        June 27, 2013 6:59 PM

        Yes, Microsoft is 'The Devil', and Sony is the perfect 'wittle Angel...

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      June 21, 2013 11:36 AM

      Dropping the price to $399 would swing the pendulum.

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        June 21, 2013 12:40 PM

        I don't think it's going to happen (not before release at least) but if they did... I might consider getting both.

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      June 21, 2013 11:39 AM

      The price difference alone is letting Sony win the war. People will most likely adopt the new Xbox in a year or two. That's what I plan on doing, at least the exclusives then will also be cheaper.

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        June 21, 2013 11:54 AM

        Yeah I plan to get one, but not right away, Maybe sometime next year

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      June 21, 2013 11:53 AM

      I still don't believe Microsoft fully, they may not be showing their full hand. It may be just their PR face atm, while they impose something else.

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        June 21, 2013 12:18 PM

        Of course it'll be back in some form, they wouldn't have announced shutting down the current system if they didn't have a backup plan in place.

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        June 21, 2013 12:21 PM

        Yea, I'm so nervous about this I signed up for a PSN account to make sure I own 'mancide' over there too...

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      June 21, 2013 12:17 PM

      Its good to see companies finally listening to their fans, I was leaning PS4 but no more, Titan Fall is a must buy for me and Forza 5.

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        June 21, 2013 12:23 PM

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        June 21, 2013 12:26 PM

        When did you have this charge of heart about the PS4 that you considered getting one?

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          June 21, 2013 8:42 PM

          I'm a gamer, I prefer the best game systems and I was leaning PS4 but not now since the change of heart of xbox finally listening to the gamers out there. had bad experience with PS3 so getting a xbox one.

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        June 21, 2013 12:29 PM

        What's weird, is after the change I'm more inclined to jump ship and I think I was viewed as just as big of an Xbox guy as you on this site.

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          June 21, 2013 12:33 PM

          A bit, but not in such a blatant, obnoxious way though heh. More of just someone who likes what they like and want's to show why they do. I will argue something to death if I feel that compassionate about it.

          Also what caused you to think about switching after this? I was actually kinda surprised to see your posts about getting a PS4.

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            June 21, 2013 12:40 PM

            I guess something hit me this morning that maybe they don't have their shit together this generation.

            Granted, all I did was register my email so that I have the PSN name 'mancide'. I haven't cancelled an Xbox One pre-order yet, nor did I pre-order a PS4.

            I guess I'm worried that the Xbox LIVE Gold games program might now die in December and not continue on next year. I don't have a lot of time to spend on games, but if they were going to give me one free game a month I would stick around for that.

            Maybe it's also that I'm less and less tied to my gamerscore number than I was just a few weeks ago, and would like to get back to "gaming to game"... IDK

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              June 21, 2013 12:46 PM

              All good reasons. I was a big 360 fan for quite a few years because my computer was just giving me so many issues and I didn't have the money to upgrade it. I was REALLY surprised about how Sony was able to sway me. MS just wasn't hitting points that I was interested in. The DRM and "always online" stuff didn't bother me PERSONALLY, but it was the other stuff that just didn't really sit well. I still plan to get one, just not at launch. I like games, I like playing them, doesn't matter to me where or how, as long as I can enjoy them that's good enough for me.

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          June 21, 2013 12:33 PM

          I don't see you as an Xbox guy. I see you as a gamer who disapproves of internet-reenforce controversy. You listen to others' opinions and have reasons behind your point of view.

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            June 21, 2013 12:38 PM

            I've been pretty well viewed as an Xbox guy since I have 150,000+ gamerscore and for a long time was big on engaging the chatty with various gamerscore competitons.

            I haven't been the one to jump into fanboy fights, and I did seem to champion the Xbox One because I felt their messaging was not very good. I was just simply trying to explain what I was understanding, and what I thought others were misunderstanding.

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              June 21, 2013 12:53 PM

              I hope you didn't take the shack teasing about gamerscore to heart. I don't think most of them meant it to hostile, just one of your quirks.

              We may disagree, but I listen to you because I respect your opinion. You often have knowledge and stances I do not and can articulate them well. You also listen to others and will agree if you are convinced by another point of view. It's the difference between you and some of the other people on here who I just cannot speak to because they never listen.

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                June 21, 2013 1:03 PM

                I've never taken the gamerscore ribbing seriously. But, I have stopped caring as much about it on my own lately for various other reasons.

                And yea, you've provided me some things that I would not have otherwise known.

                I still feel that GameStop's practices go a bit beyond there being a first-sale doctrine. I do like to think I can sell my physical discs when done, and I don't typically sell them to GameStop unless I can't make more selling them person-to-person on Amazon.

                But you have to admit, convincing someone who walked up to the counter with a sealed new copy, that the "used copy" is "just as good", while not an outright lie, benefits GameStop more than it does the people that created that content.

                That being said, I was OK with the system MS was proposing. Maybe it was because I had an idealized fantasy world that may have not materialized (flash sales, discounted digital titles, a true "family share plan"). I'm just less enthusiastic about maintaining the status quo, which I think is why the PSN+ side of things is so enticing to me. Because I've seen how they've maintained that, and they have said that will continue with the PS4. I don't have that guarantee on the Microsoft side. Xbox LIVE Gold games is only guaranteed through December.

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                  June 21, 2013 1:42 PM

                  I agree with you about those policies, but that's why I chose to avoid Gamestop. They're an evil entity for what they do, not just on pushing used games (which is scummy, but not bad), but for being obnoxious in every way. If you didn't preorder they magically don't have enough content for you. Employees steal preorder bonuses and pretend they've run out. They will even over subscribe on preorders and refuse to refund you.

                  Those are the parts that I find evil. The used game stuff is scummy, but understandable for a publically-traded customer. Arn't we told that kind of profit-making is good for the economy?

                  Note, I don't agree with it, I hate the shareholderization of the US market, but until that problem is fixed, Gamestop has no reason to do better.

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          June 21, 2013 12:43 PM

          MS came across as even weaker and less organized after their recent announcement. It actually gave me even less confidence in them as a company. All of this just goes to show you how important PR can be. The system would probably do fine based simply on it's hardware and the games... but the shitstorm they have created around it... really makes it difficult to like them right now.

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            June 21, 2013 12:48 PM

            Yea, I think that's what I'm feeling now. I felt like all that energy I poured into evangelizing the message just got tossed out with the reversal, and now I have less confidence in them.

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        June 21, 2013 12:50 PM

        Titan Fall = PC as well..

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        June 21, 2013 12:56 PM

        You were leaning PS4 even though you were shitting on it and championing the xbox one every chance you got. Yep, this sounds likely.

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        June 21, 2013 1:26 PM

        Why isn't this clown banned already.

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          June 21, 2013 1:28 PM

          No way, there would be no more Spartans.

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          June 21, 2013 1:33 PM

          I think he got a stern talking to.

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          June 21, 2013 1:37 PM

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          June 21, 2013 1:46 PM

          If we were banning stupid this would be a desolate chatty.

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            June 21, 2013 1:58 PM

            You're the one with the...with the.. stu

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            June 21, 2013 2:38 PM

            No. This guy's retardation is on another level. I'm surprised the mods have let it go as long as it has. He's making you guys look silly.

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              June 21, 2013 2:40 PM

              We're ok with silly. Multisync is Mod of the Month for June 2013. He got a plaque and everything.

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            June 21, 2013 5:10 PM

            I for one, appreciate this policy.

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          June 21, 2013 2:42 PM

          He's changed his tune fairly significantly, we can't just ban for sport.

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            June 21, 2013 2:57 PM

            I don't believe it. 3 days ago he was being his typical self. I feel a build up to some epic hit and run post.

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              June 21, 2013 3:01 PM

              I'm almost positive he got a shackmessage and listened to it.

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          June 21, 2013 2:51 PM

          My guess is it's for the entertainment value. He makes hit-and-run posts on this one topic, but stays away from the rest of the chatty, making him a relatively harmless but hilarious troll.

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          June 21, 2013 6:55 PM

          because now it's just hilarious

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        June 21, 2013 1:29 PM

        i was leaning chevy

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        June 21, 2013 1:37 PM

        i must have blinked because i missed your PS4 lean

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        June 21, 2013 4:06 PM

        Never stop posting.

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        June 21, 2013 8:09 PM

        Definitely a shill/character account. Too many hit and run posts.

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        June 21, 2013 9:12 PM

        oh this guy again

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      June 21, 2013 12:50 PM

      I looked for where to take this poll for myself, clicked, saw the facebook login and closed the page.

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        June 21, 2013 1:01 PM

        Just think, with the PS4 you'll be able to Facebook right on the controller! Must buy!

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          June 21, 2013 1:04 PM

          Nah, they built their own facebook. Didn't you see the UI video?

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          June 21, 2013 4:04 PM

          With XBone and Kinect your face IS facebook!

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      June 21, 2013 1:53 PM

      Unless the new psn is lacking in features, I really think microsoft is in danger of losing Xbox live as the defacto online service for consoles and a lot of xbox's profits and potential hinges on live. The handful of my friends that have already put their money down on ps4 preorders, while they consider this is a nice gesture, only brings the xbone up to par and that isn't enough to get them to switch their preorders.

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      June 21, 2013 2:12 PM

      Still going to get a ps4 at launch. I won't say I'll never get an Xbox One but it still doesn't interest me much.

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      June 21, 2013 2:26 PM

      Since the reversal announcement, Xbox One has gone from #8 to #6 on Amazon's Best Sellers of 2013 ( so far) http://goo.gl/5Z47q PS4 is still at #2, though

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      June 21, 2013 2:30 PM

      I don't understand the graph. Can someone explain?

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        June 21, 2013 2:38 PM

        more people are interested in PS4 than Xbox one

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        June 21, 2013 7:35 PM

        The x-axis shows the date the poll data was obtained so you can see how interest has changed over time, the plot shows the total area of interest up to 100% by category, currently about 60% of people are interested in the PS4, about 30% in Xbox One, and lastly about 10% of people in the survey aren't interested in either.

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      June 21, 2013 3:06 PM

      The price issue and lack of indie support should not be taken lightly. Right now Sony is taking the better approach to content and Microsoft isn't valuing gamers as they battle to own the living room.

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      June 21, 2013 3:20 PM

      Wow they hit near 70% there, also no Wii U is hilarious.

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        June 21, 2013 7:47 PM

        They could have done a pole with just the PS4 and "reported" it at 100%.

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          June 21, 2013 7:49 PM

          PS4 makes me want to whip out my pole for sure.

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      June 21, 2013 4:58 PM

      Am I reading that graph wrong? It looks like the Xbone is hovering at 85-90% and the PS4 goes from 50-70 then back to 60%

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        June 21, 2013 5:04 PM

        ... the way you are reading it, 100% of people want neither so yea you're reading it wrong

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        June 21, 2013 5:05 PM

        These are added together for 100% polled

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        June 22, 2013 4:34 AM

        No, it's 65% ps4, 25% xbone, 10% neither.

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      June 21, 2013 7:22 PM

      Amen. PS4 rulez!!!

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      June 21, 2013 10:12 PM

      what really hurt them was the always connected camera and mic.

      http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/dvr-camera-microphone-target-advertisements-based-recordings-users-014434311.html

      haha losers! FAIL. do people still say that these days? fail?

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