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The Apple Far Out Event is happening today and you can tune in to the livestream right here on Shacknews. What will be announced at today’s event is anyone’s guess, but we’ve made some educated assumptions which you can find below. Come and join us as we see what Apple has been cooking up.

Apple Event – Far Out – September 7

The Apple Event, known as Far Out, is scheduled to begin at 10:00 a.m. PT / 1:00 p.m. ET on September 7, 2022. Viewers can tune in using the YouTube embed below, heaingd over to the Apple site, or even watching via their Apple TV app.

While Apple is usually tight-lipped about what’s going to be announced during these sorts of events, we’ve done our best to take a good guess. Ozzie did some sleuthing and has come up with an idea of what to expect from the Apple Far Out Event. This includes word on a new iPhone, perhaps a new Apple Watch, among some other solid guesses.

No matter what gets announced during today’s Apple Far Out Event, you can be sure you’ll hear about it in these parts. Swing by our Apple page as we cover the hottest reveals from the event. That page is also where you can find all relevant information pertaining to Apple, its products, as well as the business side.

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    September 7, 2022 7:00 AM

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      September 7, 2022 9:27 AM

      I guess this will be our Apple event thread. Anyone got any predictions? Seems like most stuff has leaked already. I am interested in the price point for that Pro watch. It looks super dope. Although I am sure if we wait a year that design will trickle down. I am due for an upgrade. Although not much my series 4 doesn't do that I need.

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        September 7, 2022 9:32 AM

        I am curious if this is the year they drop the iPhone numbering system and just call it iPhone.

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          September 7, 2022 9:37 AM

          Do you think having a number adds anything to the status of having the newest model, especially among younger people? Or do younger people not even think of their phones as having any status these days?

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            September 7, 2022 9:49 AM

            younger people seem iphone or android and judge accordingly. At least that is what my son in HS says.

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          September 7, 2022 9:50 AM

          I was a bit surprised they didn't with the 13, since that number is bad luck in some cultures. I feel like they had skipped a number in the past that was considered bad luck in Asia or something.

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          September 7, 2022 10:24 AM

          God I hope not. It makes buying them second-hand a nightmare. "iPhone (2021) 2nd generation A47 bionics super fast!!!"

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          September 7, 2022 10:27 AM

          I’m skeptical since they’ve probably found keeping the number makes people more likely to upgrade and this is the product they want you to upgrade fairly often.

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          September 7, 2022 6:37 PM

          People will just refer to it by the year it was released. I think it’s fine but it’s a slight branding change.

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      September 7, 2022 9:57 AM

      Think it's finally time to upgrade my 11 Pro Max!

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        September 7, 2022 9:59 AM

        I think I'm gonna "upgrade" from my 12 Pro Max to something smaller. This thing is just too big.

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          September 7, 2022 10:03 AM

          Gonna be upgrading my watch too. With a release today I'll be like 4 versions behind lol

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          September 7, 2022 10:04 AM

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            September 7, 2022 10:05 AM

            My wife has the mini and it is tiny. It looks ridiculous next to the Max. I previously had the X and I think that was just about the perfect size. I'll probably go for whatever pro, non-max version they announce.

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      September 7, 2022 10:03 AM

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      September 7, 2022 10:04 AM

      Didn't take that long before they dropped the M-word.

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      September 7, 2022 10:07 AM

      I know it's corpo marketing, but damn those stories are way more moving than they should be.

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      September 7, 2022 10:07 AM

      Apple Watch: "Buy us or Die"

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        September 7, 2022 10:13 AM

        True, saved me three times already. Just last week my watched battery was super low, so I decided to put it on the charger and forgo my daily run. Good thing I did or I wouldn’t have sat on the couch to watch the first episodes of Rings of Power. Now I know what you are thinking, but let me assure you, had I waited till the kids got home to watch the show, I would murdered someone for being loud and annoying. So technically it saved two lives that day.

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      September 7, 2022 10:14 AM

      Apple Watch: "TMI is our specialty!"

      Neat to be honest though.

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      September 7, 2022 10:16 AM

      They left out one kind of car accident. Explosion.

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        September 7, 2022 10:18 AM

        I had one of those this morning. Taco Bell last night..

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      September 7, 2022 10:17 AM

      Crash detection, that alone makes me want to get a new watch for my son who is getting his license this month. To bad he is a android guy

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      September 7, 2022 10:20 AM

      No Pro watch so far. Hmmmm

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      September 7, 2022 10:20 AM

      WTF No Apple Watch SE?!

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      September 7, 2022 10:26 AM

      Ultra watch!

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      September 7, 2022 10:27 AM

      Damn.. 36 Hours is nice.

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      September 7, 2022 10:28 AM

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        September 7, 2022 10:30 AM

        I look forward to seeing it on the wrists of people who never step foot off pavement

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          September 7, 2022 10:31 AM

          I'm currently wearing a $3000 mechanical watch that has a GMT complication, even though I only leave my home time zone 3-4x / year.

          People like what they like.

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        September 7, 2022 10:33 AM

        I think it looks fantastic. I love the flat screen. The naming choice... dunno about that.

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        September 7, 2022 7:15 PM

        Agreed it looks really awkward to me.

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      September 7, 2022 10:30 AM

      I would like BTLE in this watch so I can connect it to my non-Apple electronics

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      September 7, 2022 10:32 AM

      Ultra looks like Apple's attempt at incorporating the features pioneered by the various Suunto watches.

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      September 7, 2022 10:33 AM

      Designed for water sports you say

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        September 7, 2022 10:33 AM

        They didn't mention the R. Kelly watersports...

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        September 7, 2022 10:34 AM

        Pee on your ultra watch for new colors!

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      September 7, 2022 10:33 AM

      Designed for water sports 😏

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      September 7, 2022 10:33 AM

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        September 7, 2022 10:36 AM

        The S6 Stainless I bought a couple of years ago was around $800 so I would expect it as well considering it's titanium.

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          September 7, 2022 10:37 AM

          Ok that was cheaper than I expected.

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      September 7, 2022 10:35 AM

      Apple Watch Ultra is designed for up to 130 degrees Fahrenheit
      Do they know something about global warming that we don't?

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      September 7, 2022 10:37 AM

      Scoble thinks they're gonna launch their own network today.

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      September 7, 2022 10:37 AM

      Not bad price considering.

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      September 7, 2022 10:38 AM

      Ultra looks great but is super niche and the price doesn’t warrant the aesthetic for me. Seems pretty good for the feature set though.

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      September 7, 2022 10:39 AM

      Apple Watch Ultra is fookin huge

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        September 7, 2022 10:42 AM

        It is. I’m kinda hoping the bands are available for the other models, but I know they won’t be.

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      September 7, 2022 10:40 AM

      They have spent so much time on the Watch Ultra for what is essentially a niche product. It's just masturbation at this point.

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        September 7, 2022 10:42 AM

        is this your first apple event?

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        September 7, 2022 10:44 AM

        My friends who are divers think it won't be as good as a dedicated dive computer which are purpose built. Ultra is too "jack of all trades".

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      September 7, 2022 10:41 AM

      Apple Watch: Shackleton Edition.

      It’s kind of ridiculous.

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      September 7, 2022 10:45 AM

      This Airpods woman's vocal cadence and monotone delivery is hard to listen to

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        September 7, 2022 10:45 AM

        it's like an android speaking english for the first time

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        September 7, 2022 10:46 AM

        Was just commenting on this with my coworkers. Like, this is the person they chose to speak for their AirPods? What were they thinking?

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      September 7, 2022 10:45 AM

      Scan your ears? They are going in the ear canal though.

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        September 7, 2022 10:49 AM

        I'm no audiologist but if I had to guess, I'd say the shape of your ear has a pretty big effect on how and what you hear normally. So if the intention is to make things seem more "natural" sounding to YOUR ear, it could work.

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        September 7, 2022 12:23 PM

        Sony's already do this for their headphones for spatial audio so I'm guessing it does work

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      September 7, 2022 10:45 AM

      The AirPods presenter’s voice sounds like text to speech from 1998.

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      September 7, 2022 10:45 AM

      What's the latency in ms on the new airpods pro?

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        September 7, 2022 10:49 AM

        for non apple device pairings it'll just be standard terrible bluetooth latency i'm sure. :(

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          September 7, 2022 10:49 AM

          I thought the were actively trying to reduce it, booo :( I was hoping for 80ms or less

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            September 7, 2022 10:53 AM

            i guess they could add aptX support, but like.. how common is it to have support on the source device for that anyways? need WiSA to take off universally.

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              September 7, 2022 10:55 AM

              Na, I'd hope they just go and do what others are doing with just faster bluetooth without relying on a proprietary codec

              Soundpeats, razer etc can reach 60ms with 'gaming mode', nothing proprietary

              I love aptx low latency but like nothing supports it :(

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                September 7, 2022 10:57 AM

                people test the airpod pros at like.. low 100ms range. but i've not been able to get anything less than double that with my computer :( sucks.

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                  September 7, 2022 11:02 AM

                  Yea Windows bluetooth I find is especially horrible without a specific dongle, I stick to wired when I can

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      September 7, 2022 10:45 AM

      this speaker sounds like a robot who doesn’t know how to annunciate.

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        September 7, 2022 10:47 AM

        I think folks are overly harsh. She’s fine. People just expect all apple people to be over the top like Johnny I’ve which frankly is super annoying.

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          September 7, 2022 10:50 AM

          no, we just like to point out his unnatural most Apple presenters are both in speech and motion. if multiple people picked up on it, it’s unlikely we’re being “overly harsh”

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          September 7, 2022 10:51 AM

          I wouldn't want anyone to make memes or anything out of it, but it was definitely difficult to listen to

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            September 7, 2022 10:54 AM

            I mean are you just not exposed to lots of people? She talked like many people I know.

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              September 7, 2022 10:56 AM

              do you only know people who speak in monotone?

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              September 7, 2022 10:56 AM

              I realized this sounds overly aggressive which isn’t my intent. Don’t need to answer. Ignore

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                September 7, 2022 11:00 AM

                All good, I am generally a pretty emotionless speaker so maybe I fall into this category but I haven't met anyone that stood out like this that I can remember. That said, I'll forget this was even a thing at all in a week or two so who knows. It just wasn't what I would expect from an Apple presentation so maybe it stood out more than it otherwise would have

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                  September 7, 2022 2:19 PM

                  An apple presentation about their audio device. That’s what really got me. Some people are just bad presenters, lack practice, camera shy etc. but they chose this person to talk with zero infliction about their AirPods which seems completely out of line with apple marketing to me.

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      September 7, 2022 10:46 AM

      Volume control. Now I want to upgrade.

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      September 7, 2022 10:47 AM

      they finally put U1 in the case, about time

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      September 7, 2022 10:49 AM

      “People love iPhone.” No “the” sounds cringeworthy.

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      September 7, 2022 10:49 AM

      Gimme dat sweet iphone 14.

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      September 7, 2022 10:51 AM

      LOL the pill rumors.......were all wrong.

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      September 7, 2022 10:59 AM

      Just show the Pro version already! D:

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      September 7, 2022 11:02 AM

      This satellite functionality isn't built into the ultra watch?

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        September 7, 2022 11:04 AM

        This is pretty slick, though.

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          September 7, 2022 11:05 AM

          Oh. Not free. Less slick. I guess it'll probably be included in Apple One eventually.

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            September 7, 2022 11:06 AM

            Free for the 2 years you're likely to have this phone before upgrading to the next one.

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      September 7, 2022 11:03 AM

      Esim is dog ass and a huge hassle when changing phones or carriers

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        September 7, 2022 11:19 AM

        I spent like 3 days on support calls when switching to Verizon earlier this year partly because of that

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          September 7, 2022 11:25 AM

          It takes 10 seconds to move a physical Sim card. Esim always requires a call to the carrier and needing a customer support person who knows wtf. Maybe it gets better but right now it's a huge hassle

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            September 7, 2022 11:27 AM

            Surely it will get better as it becomes more ubiquitous

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            September 7, 2022 11:28 AM

            i thought it might be cool to have like, a "permanent" carrier in the esim, with the ability to easily swap out the physical sim as secondary service

            but yeah shit was such a hassle, it was like half provisioned and I couldn't use esim or sim and in the end vertizon couldn't get the esim to work at all. just using a sim

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      September 7, 2022 11:04 AM

      Okay, this satellite SOS thing is pretty dope.

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        September 7, 2022 11:06 AM

        I hope it can replace the Garmin models completely.

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        September 7, 2022 11:09 AM

        Seems like something that will get shuttered. How many people each year find themselves in this type of situation? Then divide that number by half for your android user split.

        Is apple paying the staff of the relay center that may or may not even be needed.

        Seems like a money pit with little to no return. Unless the tech gets advanced to create apples network somehow.

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      September 7, 2022 11:05 AM

      Satellite SOS is cool but boo to charging for it after 2 years

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        September 7, 2022 11:10 AM

        The first hit is free.

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        September 7, 2022 5:20 PM

        i mean if you're upgrading every year or on carrier contract, arent most carrier contracts 2 years too,
        then its pretty much a free no?

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      September 7, 2022 11:07 AM

      Was hoping for a “metric fuckton” to slip in

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      September 7, 2022 11:07 AM

      Wait, Apple Fitness+ will work as long as you have an iPhone? Did I catch that?

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        September 7, 2022 11:08 AM

        yeah

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          September 7, 2022 11:11 AM

          About time! Hopefully you'll be able to use it on the Apple TV. My wife doesn't want a watch but would like to be able to use our Fitness from our Apple One subscription.

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            September 7, 2022 12:57 PM

            I bought my wife an SE watch just for the fitness.

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      September 7, 2022 11:08 AM

      Rip Mini (officially) and it’s slightly cheaper price point :’(

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      September 7, 2022 11:11 AM

      Echos of the macbook touch bar, lol

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      September 7, 2022 11:11 AM

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        September 7, 2022 11:13 AM

        "Dynamic Island... what a stupid name! … … Wait, this is actually pretty freakin slick!"

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      September 7, 2022 11:13 AM

      Dynamic Island! :D

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        September 7, 2022 11:13 AM

        That's a ridiculous name, but it looks pretty slick

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      September 7, 2022 11:13 AM

      The name is kind of... whatever, but the usage of the space is pretty neat.

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        September 7, 2022 11:15 AM

        It's one of those traditionally-Apple things that is so pointless but also really fuckin cool.

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          September 7, 2022 11:17 AM

          With a ridiculously wanky brand name that they somehow say with a straight face

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      September 7, 2022 11:14 AM

      Looks like trickery to hide the camera. Slick though. What does it look like during a movie?

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        September 7, 2022 11:16 AM

        Looks bad to me when playing video, from what they just showed.

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          September 7, 2022 11:18 AM

          Not really any different than the notch

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        September 7, 2022 11:17 AM

        I think the screen is already a bit wider than 16:9 so it can sit off to the side via pillarbox.

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      September 7, 2022 11:15 AM

      "truly magical"

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      September 7, 2022 11:15 AM

      Lame ass name but really cool software + hardware design!

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      September 7, 2022 11:16 AM

      I’m loving dynamic island, but that name is so bad 🤣

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        September 7, 2022 11:20 AM

        Just reminds me of Lonely Island. I'M ON AN IPHONE, MUTHAFUCKA

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      September 7, 2022 11:18 AM

      Always-on screen with the smart widgety things is gonna be rad.

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      September 7, 2022 11:20 AM

      Now it's time for Vitor to be talkink

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      September 7, 2022 11:21 AM

      48MP dayum!

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        September 7, 2022 11:24 AM

        I had no idea some Android phones had 108.

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          September 7, 2022 11:26 AM

          More isn't always better, those super high MP android sensors often don't produce images that people prefer over better, lower resolution sensors.

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            September 7, 2022 11:29 AM

            Yeah apple seems to have chosen to go with lower res but better image enhancement. Probably the right choice to balance cost per device with profit.

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      September 7, 2022 11:22 AM

      “Dynamic Island” is garbage it should be “Force Hole”

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      September 7, 2022 11:25 AM

      Kay-dee-did bug!

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      September 7, 2022 11:27 AM

      Did this really need to be an hour and a half long?

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        September 7, 2022 11:28 AM

        lol you've watched Apple presentations before. They are always this long.

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        September 7, 2022 11:29 AM

        They typically are. You could have just watched a summary after the fact on youtube on dozens of channels that will make one if you didn't want to watch the whole thing.

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        September 7, 2022 11:31 AM

        And it's only generating the carbon footprint of a half-hour presentation. Simply amazing.

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      September 7, 2022 11:29 AM

      iPhone 14 Pro can now capture images from the multiverse.

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      September 7, 2022 11:30 AM

      Seems like a neat way to deal with the notch.

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      September 7, 2022 11:34 AM

      Did I miss an announcement for iOS 16 release? I assume it'll ship on the new devices, so Sept 16th?

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      September 7, 2022 11:34 AM

      Severance sneak peek at the end??

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      September 7, 2022 11:35 AM

      When is iOS 16 coming out?

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      September 7, 2022 11:35 AM

      OH SHIT SEVERANCE TEASER

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      September 7, 2022 11:35 AM

      Will an always on OLED get burn in?

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        September 7, 2022 11:36 AM

        No, not in any meaningful way on that kind of device.

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        September 7, 2022 11:42 AM

        That’s why they dim the background. Also, motivations will move across the screen acting as a pixel refresh.

        With modern OLED, you’d have to have it on max brightness with a single static icon for thousands of hours to get any image retention.

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      September 7, 2022 11:35 AM

      Ha, Severance teaser at the end.

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      September 7, 2022 11:37 AM

      Apple Watch Ultra ordered, fuck yeah!

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        September 7, 2022 11:47 AM

        Same. Delivery already pushed to end of October.

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          September 7, 2022 11:48 AM

          Sept 23rd here. I think I ordered it literally the minute the store opened back up lol

          Which band did you get? I got the orange alpine loop

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            September 7, 2022 11:55 AM

            I went with the black/gray trail loop. 10/20-10/27 delivery date.

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        September 7, 2022 12:22 PM

        Same. Glad to see the old bands still work with it. None of the Ultra options were good to me for day to day use.

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          September 7, 2022 12:44 PM

          The white one the dude on the boat was wearing looked pretty sick but I went with the orange one they showed off, for now.

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      September 7, 2022 11:37 AM

      Did I see them with an inverted iPhone upper dash mount. Is there a system level dash cam mode? This would be fantastic.

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        September 7, 2022 1:00 PM

        Nope, it was the car that inverted, lol.

        I just can't bring myself to buy a dash cam even though I think it's possible they could be useful. They just all look like garbage.

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      September 7, 2022 11:40 AM

      Great, no Apple Watch SE price drop in Europe.


      Fuckers.

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      September 7, 2022 11:44 AM

      As a back again "photographer" I'm interested in the camera. Though my bias would mean my use of the camera will not change... I always see people claiming or thinking these can replace full frame cameras but I haven't been able to do that. I"ve been taking photos with my A7IV recently just because I wasn't really liking how pictures turned out with the IPhone 13 Pro camera or other peoples cameras and phones.

      It's like night and day difference in terms of actual detail and actual resolution. But I will admit I'm a bit of a pixel peeper so again another bias on my part.

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      September 7, 2022 11:47 AM

      YAS! Lightning connector lives on for phone and iPod's!

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      September 7, 2022 11:48 AM

      eSim only phones seem like a really annoying idea.

      eSim itself is fine, but keeping the the sim slot to be able to quickly swap carriers when traveling is great.

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        September 7, 2022 11:49 AM

        indeed. launch iphone 12 pro here, dual sim (esim and physical) is the way to go.

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        September 7, 2022 11:59 AM

        Oh that’s a bummer . I missed that information. So how the heck do I transfer my service when I get a new phone?

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        September 7, 2022 12:24 PM

        I kinda feel the same but also it is exceptionally rare for me to handle a sim. I only did last year when I switched plans. Even then eSim was an option. I guess if you travel a lot international and you game the data plans it's useful.

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        September 7, 2022 8:24 PM

        Gonna be so annoying for travellers!

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      September 7, 2022 11:52 AM

      sounds like the iphone upgrades are mediocre at best? the watch seems like it's taken some strides though.

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        September 7, 2022 11:59 AM

        Yeah, iPhone updates were somewhat iterative.
        Watch is their most innovative product these days.

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          September 7, 2022 12:00 PM

          Yeah. I formally suggested to skip this release to the owners before people start clamoring for it. The camera centric upgrades do not help much.

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        September 7, 2022 12:03 PM

        Yup my 11 Pro Max lives for another year! Watch Ultra though will be here in 2 weeks!

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      September 7, 2022 12:04 PM

      No USB C no iPad touch power no jobs no hope RIP

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      September 7, 2022 12:11 PM

      Is the 14 pro max the same dimensions as the 13 pro max? Curious if my apple leather case will work on the new one

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        September 7, 2022 12:13 PM

        no, the camera bump is significantly larger

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      September 7, 2022 12:11 PM

      Query: My friends are offering me to group up and get a Apple One Family plan and I just renewed Apple Arcade two weeks ago for $50. What happens to that sub and the balance that covers until next year? Apple just says the service gets canceled when switching to Apple One.

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      September 7, 2022 12:20 PM

      I hope they one day figure out a way to passivly monitor blood pressure on the watch

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      September 7, 2022 12:32 PM

      i mean i’d rather have no notch and no pill.

      but i guess this is a step in the right direction. LOVE that they are finally integrating the pill into the UX as they should have with the notch.

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      September 7, 2022 12:46 PM

      The Ultra watch is funny. Buncha folks who use their Series 7 for nothing but steps and notifications are gonna drop $800 on this thing that's been designed for mountain climbing and elite extreme sports.

      It does look really nice though!

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        September 7, 2022 12:50 PM

        dude I buy a new Hermes apple watch every year. those paying 800 have to get in line for looking ridiculous to my 1500 https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-watch/apple-watch-hermes/45mm-cellular-space-black-stainless-steel-bleu-de-france-h-diagonal-single-tour-onesize :)

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        September 7, 2022 12:51 PM

        This will match my Range Rover, that I take to the mall.

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        September 7, 2022 12:59 PM

        To be fair, the extra-rugged build will be super useful to the clumsy and careless among us, regardless of adventuring prowess.

        Also, I think it looks a lot cooler than the regular Apple Watch. If only it was about 10-12% smaller - 49mm case is just too damn big. Something in the realm of 43-45 would be perfect.

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        September 7, 2022 1:08 PM

        https://i.imgur.com/qfWLhA5.jpg

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        September 7, 2022 2:08 PM

        And even if you're an outdoor enthusiast or a marathoner, you'd likely be better served by Garmin

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        September 7, 2022 2:14 PM

        it looks og xbox huge to me.

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        September 7, 2022 2:22 PM

        it's the "we are all out of COVID" celebration watch. people are desperate for activity.

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        September 7, 2022 2:53 PM

        It’s a fashion accessory, just like g shock and people walking around wearing “diving” watches.

        It has tons of function, but people will buy it for the form.

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        September 7, 2022 3:45 PM

        Why do you or others really care? I don't really understand the judgement unless you are insecure about it for some reason.

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        September 7, 2022 5:53 PM

        It has almost everything I want in a Garmin alternative for hiking and backpacking. The dual speakers are perfect for notifications when you venture off trail. The app I use tells you when that happens, but the speaker on my Series 6 watch is too quiet. The recessed sapphire face won’t take a beating as easily as my Series 6 either. The larger face will be great with the app I use for offline topo maps (WorkOutDoors).

        The only things it’s missing are super duper long battery life, built in topo maps, and the body battery. But having Apple Pay and being in the apple ecosystem make it worth it for me. It was an instant buy for my use case.

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        September 7, 2022 7:09 PM

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        September 7, 2022 7:19 PM

        I'm sad it's the only titanium option now. I meant to order it in a 8 beforehand but by the time I thought of it it was unavailable.

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      September 7, 2022 12:50 PM

      Interesting - AppleCare+ now covers “unlimited repairs” instead of two per year or whatever

      https://www.macrumors.com/2022/09/07/applecare-updated-to-cover-unlimited-repairs/

      Appears to be retroactive to anyone who currently has AppleCare+

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        September 7, 2022 4:53 PM

        Fuck them. They denied a repair when I was out of coverage for 6 months, and it was even an extended warranty item. Like every other consumer products operation at Apple, it is a profit making venture.

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      September 7, 2022 1:02 PM

      Lol just watched. Nothing really new, every year is now a "S" year iteration... boring.

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        September 7, 2022 1:05 PM

        WTF the A15 is in the 14? That is so lame.

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        September 7, 2022 1:09 PM

        The dynamic island is new and pretty cool.

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          September 7, 2022 1:10 PM

          does that require new hardware or just ios 16?

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            September 7, 2022 1:25 PM

            It's only on the 14 Pro/Max because they redesigned all the stuff inside the notch for it.

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          September 7, 2022 1:10 PM

          Yea its an interesting take on the notch. I probably would never get the Pro though, so i'll never see it until they put it on the iphone 17

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            September 7, 2022 1:36 PM

            The telephoto lens is really nice to have. There's a reason they lock it away on the pricier phone.

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          September 7, 2022 1:39 PM

          Is it cooler than just having 3mm of bezel at the top and an un-obscured rectangular screen? Because i would pay extra for that.

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        September 7, 2022 1:42 PM

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          September 7, 2022 6:40 PM

          What do you see as the big boost on the Series 8 watches?

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        September 7, 2022 1:45 PM

        Not sure what anyone's expecting at this point? All this stuff was already leaked so it shouldn't be surprising. We've pretty much stagnated on any groundbreaking phone tech for 5 years or so. Wearables hasn't had any massive leaps since the Apple Watch was introduced originally.

        I don't know why this is a "lol" moment. It's just what people should be expecting at this point.

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          September 7, 2022 2:13 PM

          yeah everyone is just sitting around waiting for AR/VR to finally breakthrough. Everything else is on the boring part of the S curves.

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        September 7, 2022 2:39 PM

        Excuse me maybe you missed the Dynamic Island

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        September 7, 2022 1:29 PM

        Honestly, if I wasn't going from 13 Pro to 14 Pro Max, I could easily wait a year. But I instantly regretted not getting the larger phone this last time and the trade in value is half the purchase price.

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      September 7, 2022 1:43 PM

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        September 7, 2022 5:38 PM

        Hoping to do the same with my 12. It meets my needs but the battery isn’t going to last.

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      September 7, 2022 2:53 PM

      Apple walking-back the notch as part of their design language is genius. Now everyone who has that ugly shit will feel inferior and have to upgrade, or commit suicide

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      September 7, 2022 3:04 PM

      I find this stuff so interesting about cellular devices.



      Model A2650*

      5G NR (Bands n1, n2, n3, n5, n7, n8, n12, n14, n20, n25, n26, n28, n29, n30, n38, n40, n41, n48, n53, n66, n70, n71, n77, n78 n79)
      5G NR mmWave (Bands n258, n260, n261)
      FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 13, 14, 17, 18, 19, 20, 25, 26, 28, 29, 30, 32, 66, 71)
      TD-LTE (Bands 34, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 46, 48, 53)
      UMTS/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA (850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz)
      GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)



      holy fuck. I mean everyone like OMNOVA (total noob btw) focuses on power cord connectors, but that shit is vastly more important. I'm always curious how carriers will improve their throughput as more and more data goes over the airwaves.

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      September 7, 2022 3:26 PM

      No Apple Tax this year. Well the AirPods Pro 2 seem tempting... I won't be able to hear my family at all!

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        September 7, 2022 3:32 PM

        Too bad apple doesn’t do trade in on AirPods

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      September 7, 2022 4:39 PM

      The 14pro is heavier than the 13pro. Fuck that shit. I'll probably downgrade from 13pro to 14 just because it is much lighter.

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        September 7, 2022 4:42 PM

        Goddamit, 14 doesn't have a 120hz screen. Not sure I can go back from that.

        Apple knows how to separate their units really well.

        I'll stick with this heavy piece of shit for another year.

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          September 7, 2022 4:51 PM

          Yea they are slowly separating the regular from the pro more each year. This year it has the A15 (iPhone 13 chip) instead of the pro’s A16. That’s ridiculous imo.

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        September 7, 2022 4:59 PM

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          September 7, 2022 5:03 PM

          I am firmly in the small phone fan club.

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        September 7, 2022 5:01 PM

        I read it was a tiny bit thicker but same weight?

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        September 7, 2022 7:29 PM

        downgrade to a 13 Mini then.

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      September 8, 2022 1:16 AM

      I just went for a blue Apple Watch 7 from last year. Found it for not much more than this year’s SE.

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