Watch the 2nd day of the Dota 2 International 5 Main Event here

After an intense first day of competition, it's time to resume the Dota 2 International 5 Main Event. Join us at Shacknews for Day 2.

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The Main Event is underway at the fifth annual Dota 2 International. It's one of the biggest eSports events of the year, with the first place team taking home $6,470,659. Here are the brackets going into today's proceedings, courtesy of the official Dota 2 International website.

Dota 2 lovers are welcome to join us here at Shacknews and watch the full stream below.

Watch live video from dota2ti on www.twitch.tv

For those that are not well-versed in all the intricacies of Dota 2, the always-helpful Newcomer's Stream is also making its return this year, just in time for the Main Event. That stream can be found here.

This is also one of the most anticipated events of the year for the Shacknews community. Watch along with us and don't forget to join the conversation with the rest of Chatty. (Don't be afraid. The community won't bite.)

Also, if you're looking to take your Dota 2 International excitement on the road, remember that many bars across the country are broadcasting today's matches. A full list of those locations can be found on the Dota 2 International website.

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From The Chatty
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    August 4, 2015 8:00 AM

    Ozzie Mejia posted a new article, Watch the 2nd day of the Dota 2 International 5 Main Event here

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      August 4, 2015 8:04 AM

      Wish I could watch this EG v. Complexity match.

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        August 4, 2015 8:11 AM

        If Complexity somehow wins that it will be the greatest TI ever.

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          August 4, 2015 8:21 AM

          Both top bracket games today could be huge upsets. EHome has been looking good and it seems like the Chinese teams have something extra for these rounds so far. I wonder if we will see EG or Secret take it to another level.

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      August 4, 2015 8:11 AM

      2 hours until start.. Wish they'd start at 9 like the group stages... Going until midnight everyday is going to be annoying

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        August 4, 2015 8:17 AM

        You think you have it bad, that's like 6am for some of us in the world.

        At least it starts at about the time I get home from work.

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        August 4, 2015 8:32 AM

        They were like 4 hours behind yesterday. Tonight shouldn't be as bad.

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          August 4, 2015 9:16 AM

          Did they ever say what the cause for all the downtime was yesterday?

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            August 4, 2015 9:36 AM

            Comcast according to reddit.

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              August 4, 2015 10:39 AM

              it sounds fine to me. just saying comcast sounds plausible enough to start blaming them

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            August 4, 2015 9:53 AM

            They were 2 hours behind but if they're starting at noon today then really one hour behind then the outage was some system or router dying based on the players still being connected tot the game but the casters and shit not. They don't have any PR so of course they didn't say. Classic valve

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        August 4, 2015 9:36 AM

        I fell asleep during VG vs. Navi and woke up sometime during the next game. the last match finished after 3am here.

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          August 4, 2015 9:53 AM

          Yeah I am over there as well I was just using their timezone.

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      August 4, 2015 9:53 AM

      I am looking forward to day 2. E.G. vs compLexity should be good.
      http://chattypics.com/files/shackbrowseUpload_cjz19pdu8y.jpg

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        August 4, 2015 11:08 AM

        So are you just staring up at the screen the entire time? Is there wifi to stream on while you are sitting there? (I am guessing no otherwise everyone would be).

        While I get enjoying the party atmosphere, I don't get it as a spectator experience.

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      August 4, 2015 10:29 AM

      That March yell during the interview after the game, some probably think that is cringe but that was hilarious to me.

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      August 4, 2015 10:50 AM

      The Secret Shop is dumb as hell. People are jonesing for that stuff so hard that they're willing to form a line around the block and miss out on the tournament that they've paid hundreds of dollars to be there for. I can't understand what motivates them but I still feel bad for 'em.

      Just let people place orders ahead of time and pick up their crap when they get a moment, Valve.

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        August 4, 2015 10:54 AM

        last year there was stuff to sell on the steam store, for so much it paid for the trip and then some. I dunno what the loot is this year, but last year I know the secret shop had great loot I guess...

        physical loot and digital loot, of course.

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          August 4, 2015 10:56 AM

          The VR secret shop sure sounds cool though. Hope I'm able to get a Vive this winter.

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        August 4, 2015 10:54 AM

        That is what they did.

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          August 4, 2015 10:58 AM

          So what's with the enormous lines?

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            August 4, 2015 11:00 AM

            they actually retrieve your order on valve time. getting the beer mug you ordered, that is 50 feet away, can take 2 hours.

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          August 4, 2015 11:04 AM

          And yet, they still can't handle it because of all their artificial scarcity creation. Valve loves creating secondary markets so much that they are willing to gimp the supposed primary experience.

          Sucks in their games too.

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        August 4, 2015 11:08 AM

        I was a bit miffed that the only thing I wanted sold out within two days of the fucking preorder time window. Are they hand carving every juggernaut mug out of a solid chunk of grandfathered ivory?

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      August 4, 2015 10:57 AM

      This ppd interview is going to provide so much drama fuel after the tournament.

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      August 4, 2015 11:07 AM

      EG vs CoL starting

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        August 4, 2015 11:11 AM

        lol Merlini covered in EG flags

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          August 4, 2015 11:18 AM

          that was hilariously awesome. US flag + EG logo

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        August 4, 2015 11:12 AM

        go CoL!

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        August 4, 2015 11:19 AM

        SK :D

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        August 4, 2015 11:20 AM

        Chen what

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          August 4, 2015 11:22 AM

          Clinkz? Weird.

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            August 4, 2015 12:14 PM

            Clinkz is good this patch. Give him safelane farm and he only needs treads, aquila, soul ring to transition to a roaming role. He got hugely buffed when searing arrows stopped being an orb and benefited from the cheaper deso.

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          August 4, 2015 11:52 AM

          Add this one to my replay list. I wanted to see how the current meta handles Chen. I suck at Chen and don't understand him as a hero.

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        August 4, 2015 11:29 AM

        Do teams get to pause or is it usually technical issues?

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          August 4, 2015 11:31 AM

          pauses should only happen for technical issues or when they're assigning heroes at the beginning.

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            August 4, 2015 11:32 AM

            So I'm curious why there are so many hiccups. Are they not on a LAN? Shouldn't it just be perfectly smooth

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              August 4, 2015 11:33 AM

              well there was an internet outage yesterday so they couldn't stream the games. These quick pauses might be for things like misbound keys or something else.

              I'm also not 100% sure they're playing this in lan mode. I think they have to be online for the dotatv piece to work.

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              August 4, 2015 11:39 AM

              Software bugs and headset issues still occur in LAN environments.

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          August 4, 2015 11:32 AM

          They can pause for any issues. Usually it's for latency issues. But they're allowed to use them for anything else as long as it's for a real problem.

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        August 4, 2015 11:39 AM

        great start for CoL but they need it if they want to take this game

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        August 4, 2015 11:42 AM

        casual rosh by clinkz and chen zoo, damn

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        August 4, 2015 11:48 AM

        CoL is doing work this game. EG usually sucks first game though.

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          August 4, 2015 11:55 AM

          Right now they're hitting that period on the map where they're giving AM breathing room. SK can reek havok with his ult and Naga still has Song for tough fights or possible ganks.

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        August 4, 2015 12:02 PM

        COL really dropped the ball, they were so afraid to be aggressive for the last ~10 minutes that they've given up their XP lead and AM has gotten way ahead and wont be slowing down.

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          August 4, 2015 12:03 PM

          I think maybe they didn't know quite how far ahead they were.

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        August 4, 2015 12:17 PM

        LOL awesome use of Song

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          August 4, 2015 12:22 PM

          was any TP actually cancelled? I missed it because camera was on AM. that's a delicious play.

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        August 4, 2015 12:59 PM

        The good thing is Sumail can use this time to finish his homework.

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        August 4, 2015 1:15 PM

        And they're back

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        August 4, 2015 1:43 PM

        Game 2 starting

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          August 4, 2015 1:55 PM

          So apparently CoL is actually a women's college basketball team based on that huddle.

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      August 4, 2015 11:17 AM

      any stats on day 1 heroes picked and banned? seems extremely narrow so far. as in... maybe 12 total picked for active combat duty. I realize people aren't gonna risk anything, but damn... no "surprise!" stuff the other team will have to deal with that one team has practiced with...

      also my predictions is that blue orb will lose all of its games again (I think it lost all of its games, right?)

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      August 4, 2015 12:10 PM

      I have to say I'm not a fan of TI5 so far.

      I've spent longer waiting for things to start or resume than actually watching the games and on top of that this yeah has featured the most boring drafts to date. My TI5 has been a cycle of playing Hearthstone and periodically checking back in to see the game paused with the same half dozen heroes in various configurations.

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        August 4, 2015 12:14 PM

        Weird, I think it's the best TI since TI3. These stalls don't bother me because I can always do something else when it happens. The teams this year have been pretty much even and the games have been more excited than last years. The drafts are good and theres just a lot more talent from every region this year then just a few pockets here and there

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        August 4, 2015 12:19 PM

        The group stage was great. Was just the games and a bit of analysis. Now they are doing a full fledged NBC olympic coverage level. It's too much.

        Especially when you factor in these technical pauses that keep happening. It's getting bad.

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          August 4, 2015 12:22 PM

          So many issues so far. It is kind of turning into a bit of a disaster :(
          Yesterday people pointed to comcast, now today it's "lag". I wonder what is really going on.

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      August 4, 2015 12:12 PM

      The commentary is much better if you listen to it at half speed, which for some reason is an option on the youtube stream.

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        August 4, 2015 12:25 PM

        Someone should do frame by frame breakdowns of the big teamfights. Trying to follow with commentary during those is impossible. I only have some clue because I know the audio cues from playing DOTA.

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      August 4, 2015 12:21 PM

      These pauses are TERRIBLE.

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        August 4, 2015 12:25 PM

        Yeah it sucks. Updates are saying players have left their pods. Guess will be a few before they resume..

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        August 4, 2015 12:26 PM

        DDOS?

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          August 4, 2015 12:27 PM

          Probably from the NFL and NBA. Joking aside, it must only be the dota servers themselves. The stream is still up and delivering quality that puts netflix to shame.

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          August 4, 2015 12:33 PM

          Yep, they just said it was a DDOS

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        August 4, 2015 12:30 PM

        No shit. What bothers me the most is valves classic don't communicate what's going on at all. You have a panel of people talking have them tell us what's going on. Is it really bad lag is it a local problem, a steam problem, a ddos?

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          August 4, 2015 12:36 PM

          They probably don't want to highlight that they vulnerable, it might prompt more people to DDOS.

          Only non chinese teams have had this problem so far.

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          August 4, 2015 12:43 PM

          You don't highlight if its a DDOS. This has always been the case with these types of attacks. Even on forums they delete posts when people are using an exploit. All it does is empower morons to do it some more.

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        August 4, 2015 12:33 PM

        Yeah, its a DDOS

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          August 4, 2015 12:40 PM

          Who said it?

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          August 4, 2015 12:41 PM

          I'm kinda surprised that they don't have a local client running. I'd expect a local client and server, with a few observer computers using venue internet to stream to the DOTA TV servers.

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        August 4, 2015 12:34 PM

        DOTER

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        August 4, 2015 12:43 PM

        http://map.norsecorp.com/ [lol]

        It was linked here before, not sure how realtime this is

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          August 4, 2015 12:44 PM

          No surprise there. It's China and Russia.

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          August 4, 2015 12:45 PM

          Was just about to post this. Lots of mentions of Seattle WA in there from China and Russia. Seattle lighting up like Hiroshima.

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          August 4, 2015 12:50 PM

          Lol some of those attacks at seattle look like nukes going off in this thing. Hilarious.

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            August 4, 2015 12:52 PM

            When this first came out there were stories that said it is not real time everywhere, but is a demo based on honeypots where they have servers. So it may be that they have a few more monitors going there (apparently that is why St. Louis appears to be a huge target is that they have their biggest honeypots running in a data center here).

            So, there probably are a lot more attacks, but the ones you are seeing may not be the Dota attacks.

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        August 4, 2015 12:55 PM

        How long until the commentators are playing chess to pass the time?

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      August 4, 2015 12:44 PM

      Well, looks like I didn't miss anything by having to go to work today.

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      August 4, 2015 12:48 PM

      Watch the 2nd day of the Dota 2 International 5 Main Event here

      Or not.

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        August 4, 2015 12:54 PM

        On the plus side, the Noob Stream is being constructive and helping break things down and explain certain things during the downtime.

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          August 4, 2015 12:56 PM

          Noob stream is the best thing in DOTA right after Purge's "Welcome to DotA, You Suck."

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          August 4, 2015 12:57 PM

          Cool, I need to check that out

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          August 4, 2015 1:04 PM

          Is purge doing this for the rest of the event? Whatever. I'd rather watch ODpixel than the analysis desk.

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      August 4, 2015 1:06 PM

      China I hope you are happy, we're reduced to twerking

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      August 4, 2015 1:25 PM

      This is what they've been reduced to.

      https://youtu.be/Lia55EBxIDE

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      August 4, 2015 1:27 PM

      Man COL seems super tilted

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        August 4, 2015 1:29 PM

        Eh, this game was over before the 2hr break.

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        August 4, 2015 1:29 PM

        Note to complexity: Don't let a team get AM, naga, and Lina. Especially when a kid named sumail is on the team. Ok gg next.

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          August 4, 2015 1:30 PM

          And don't draft Clinkz.

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            August 4, 2015 1:30 PM

            Or chen

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            August 4, 2015 1:31 PM

            And QoP building Octarine Core was stupid.

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              August 4, 2015 1:37 PM

              Not sure why anyone at the pro level would build that item and not a sheepstick in that game

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                August 4, 2015 1:46 PM

                It's a great item for heroes that have a secured lead and actually push with it. Like Leshrac and Bristleback, even Zeus depending on the hero comp. But if your team needs that lock down and you're a late-game QoP? Hell no.

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                  August 4, 2015 1:53 PM

                  Octarine Core bristleback is way over rated. It sounded cool. It looked cool, but most people stick to the older builds. In an contested game you probably want the assault curass first.

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                    August 4, 2015 1:55 PM

                    I feel like Octarine Core is way overrated is probably sufficient as a statement. I haven't seen the math, but the 25% cooldown reduction just doesn't seem worth it for the price in most instances.

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          August 4, 2015 1:32 PM

          They had the game but they gave it away. They had a 14 minute aghs on QOP and AFAIK qop didn't scream anyone after that until minute 28 or so.

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            August 4, 2015 1:33 PM

            They didn't have the game at any point. They created a marginal lead pushing towers because it was a 5on4 and sometimes 3on5. Naga and am were farming. Just because you are ahead on the gold graph and towers, doesn't ever mean you are winning the game. It's all about potential gpm curve.

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              August 4, 2015 1:39 PM

              I guess? They had an immense gold and xp lead for 14 minutes into the game. They could have pushed and ended it, or been aggressive at all. They were completely passive after reaching that point which was the exact opposite of what they should have done.

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                August 4, 2015 1:44 PM

                The lead wasn't that immense, it was what like 5k? They had to play passive. They were out of towers to safely push and they couldn't risk the team fight at that point in the game. So they either had to harass the AM to stop the farm, or they had to farm up themselves. 14 minutes was too early for them to have bkbs to be able to team fight, especially with naga ult.

                Complexity chose to farm themselves instead of shut down the AM / Naga combo split push. And I'm not even sure they could have, they didn't have the mobility.

                You're way over estimating the lead they had. The impact of a few towers spread over 5 heros wasn't nearly strong as a concentrated am getting tons of farm.

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            August 4, 2015 1:34 PM

            Dude she built OC, lmao

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        August 4, 2015 1:30 PM

        They lost when they allowed AM and Naga that breathing room. It didn't help that Universe is an amazing Sand King player.

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        August 4, 2015 1:30 PM

        EG probably beat complexity five times a week for the last month.

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        August 4, 2015 1:36 PM

        They lost the game before the pause when QOP bought the octarine first part

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      August 4, 2015 1:54 PM

      PLZ NO DDOSERINO

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        August 4, 2015 1:55 PM

        Best sign!

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        August 4, 2015 1:56 PM

        NA Dota teams playing, big DDOS happens. Coincidence?

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      August 4, 2015 2:07 PM

      TIMBERSAW!!!

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        August 4, 2015 2:08 PM

        Best hero since axe. Probably going to bite complexity in the ass though, not sure it's going to pay off late game

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          August 4, 2015 2:09 PM

          Everything except for dk stun is disjointable with snowball, I don't think it's gonna work out for col in the end.

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      August 4, 2015 2:15 PM

      Universe.
      Makes.
      Plays.

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        August 4, 2015 2:17 PM

        COL is practically giving thme away at this point

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          August 4, 2015 2:24 PM

          Eg not giving them much of a choice

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      August 4, 2015 2:32 PM

      Complexity just gg already make it stop

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      August 4, 2015 2:50 PM

      Secret vs EHome starting

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        August 4, 2015 2:51 PM

        Ehome looks wide eyed and nervous

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        August 4, 2015 3:06 PM

        I like the gyro wyvern pickup so far. If they can be aggressive with the wyvern I think that could have a chance, but then again it's secret so I guess we'll see lol

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        August 4, 2015 3:08 PM

        ╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)つ──*:・゚ Space Cow

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        August 4, 2015 3:11 PM

        Artour is about to dumpster some scrubs

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        August 4, 2015 3:24 PM

        Holy shit

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        August 4, 2015 3:24 PM

        Lol!

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        August 4, 2015 3:45 PM

        Awesome fight there by VG

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        August 4, 2015 3:45 PM

        Even though Secret played the early game perfectly, their garbage draft is coming back to bite them in the ass.

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          August 4, 2015 3:51 PM

          Yea I don't see why the viper pick

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          August 4, 2015 3:52 PM

          First time I think s4 has been outdrafted

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        August 4, 2015 3:51 PM

        Wow what the

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        August 4, 2015 3:52 PM

        That gem steal. The courier snipes!

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        August 4, 2015 3:56 PM

        haha it's over

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        August 4, 2015 3:57 PM

        Gotta love LaNm and ROTK.

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        August 4, 2015 3:57 PM

        holy fuck what a good game

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        August 4, 2015 3:59 PM

        That Storm, sheesh. Gotta get Hex on him.

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        August 4, 2015 4:07 PM

        What a game 1!

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        August 4, 2015 4:11 PM

        Game 2 starting

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          August 4, 2015 4:14 PM

          If secret gets anti Mage they win in 20 mins

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            August 4, 2015 4:15 PM

            Called it but it will be like 40 mins lol

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          August 4, 2015 4:22 PM

          EHOME draft is pretty interesting. Usually means a stomp... just not sure for whom.

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          August 4, 2015 4:34 PM

          There's a strange psychology to just having an AM there. And it's happening again, just letting him farm.

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          August 4, 2015 4:38 PM

          exciting game

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          August 4, 2015 4:47 PM

          Ehome is going to 2-0 secret, who the fuck predicted that.

          RTZ being controlled. Ehome playing some smart dota. Just total and complete map control.

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            August 4, 2015 4:49 PM

            Game is hardly over and AM is still getting farm. Secret's cores are still doing fine.

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              August 4, 2015 4:50 PM

              See

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                August 4, 2015 4:51 PM

                Cty isn't going to misclick every fight.

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                August 4, 2015 4:51 PM

                I see the greed, oh the greeeeed

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              August 4, 2015 4:51 PM

              Yea might be too early. Stupid to count RTZ am out at any point.
              If RTZ can get his manta by like 23-24, and absyal by 30 they have a great shot. Ehome needs to keep up out of the lanes and they can win.

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              August 4, 2015 5:03 PM

              Anti Mage has to announce himself like in the other games about now ...

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                August 4, 2015 5:04 PM

                ¯\_( ͡°╭͜ʖ╮͡° )_/¯

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                August 4, 2015 5:08 PM

                NOPE !!!!! Your anti Mage usage is fail !!!! Amazing! Ehome wrecks !!!

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                August 4, 2015 5:10 PM

                Doesn't second pick anti-mage seem kind of bold? It wasn't picked as a counter, they just want rtz AM.

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                  August 4, 2015 5:12 PM

                  The bad choice was repicking SF. AM was a fine pick. Those two were not.

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                    August 4, 2015 5:13 PM

                    Yeah, the first pick SF was weird after game 1. I just picture puppey going "Nothing beats SF!" and everyone else in Key Arena O_o.

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                    August 4, 2015 5:14 PM

                    And the dazzle pick imo was wrong. Axe was a good pick, but zai kind of failed to make an impact

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                      August 4, 2015 5:15 PM

                      WD was bad after they picked the dazzle too. Really gave them nothing if they didn't win those outside lanes. They lost both. They could have called GG at that point since their only hope was AM harassing top for half an hour.

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                      August 4, 2015 5:15 PM

                      I think the pairing of WD and Dazzle just wasnt good too. Axe was just to unreliable of a pick there. Especially when they had SF who needed farm. Merlini was right, this second draft was very greedy.

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                        August 4, 2015 5:17 PM

                        Yeah I could see what they were going for, with weave + death ward but that is so greedy.

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                          August 4, 2015 5:19 PM

                          If it was my game (I am not a pro so there is something wrong with this I am sure) I would have been tempted to take a ranged damaging character like Drow Ranger to put in lane against the Dark Seer and deny shell farming. But then I would need a melee carry with a disable that Axe doesn't have. Back around Ti4 that would have been WK. Magnus maybe in this meta?



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                            August 4, 2015 5:21 PM

                            Drow's problem is she has awful evasion. She needs to have good mid core items to become viable unless she has a support by her side all the time. She's just too slow and is very very easy to kill unless she's got her team behind her. There are better picks that are more resilient and self-proficient.

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                              August 4, 2015 5:22 PM

                              Okay. That makes sense, I just don't know in this meta who that is and wasn't banned.

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                              August 4, 2015 5:25 PM

                              Yeah TA with blink would wreck her.

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                                August 4, 2015 5:27 PM

                                How about a Mirana or Luna pick? I am thinking Mirana, but I know she isn't picked at this level.

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                                  August 4, 2015 5:28 PM

                                  Luna is definitely a better pick than Drow. She's got a good stun and a decent range attack.

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            August 4, 2015 4:50 PM

            Odds were 9:1 on dota2lounge for Secret to win.

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          August 4, 2015 5:07 PM

          lol thats gg. RTZ threw hard

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            August 4, 2015 5:09 PM

            They didn't have a lead to throw

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            August 4, 2015 5:10 PM

            That's not really a throw. He did as much as he could for most of the game. S4 didn't get enough farm to help.

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          August 4, 2015 5:07 PM

          Wow

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          August 4, 2015 5:08 PM

          CTY 2 shot AM in that last fight

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          August 4, 2015 5:09 PM

          Damn

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          August 4, 2015 5:11 PM

          oh my!

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          August 4, 2015 5:13 PM

          this rotk interview is amazing

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            August 4, 2015 5:13 PM

            Dude looks like he's had a couple of xanax to chill out with

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              August 4, 2015 5:15 PM

              They probably made him to keep him from screaming slurs at Secret, as is his usual style.

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                August 4, 2015 5:17 PM

                I didn’t watch the booth cam, I assume he was screaming his head off. His in-game personality is quite different to it out of game.

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                August 4, 2015 5:17 PM

                If I was playing dota for million of dollars I'd take about 3 xanbars

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      August 4, 2015 3:45 PM

      We got a game, boys and girl!

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      August 4, 2015 3:56 PM

      I'm so goddamn happy right now.

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      August 4, 2015 3:56 PM

      CTY god damn don't let that dude have storm ever again

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      August 4, 2015 3:59 PM

      Blew the roof off the fucking place. EHOME fans are LOUD

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        August 4, 2015 4:01 PM

        That comeback graph omfg what a game too holy shit

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      August 4, 2015 4:01 PM

      so who is the gray haired guy on the panel?

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        August 4, 2015 4:02 PM

        Gegtik

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        August 4, 2015 4:03 PM

        Nahanz. Great stats guy.

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          August 4, 2015 5:28 PM

          I played against him and Cart in a pub game a few weeks ago and told him to hug Tobi for me.

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        August 4, 2015 4:03 PM

        Professor Oak

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        August 4, 2015 4:03 PM

        nevermind, it's this guy

        https://twitter.com/NahazDota

        googling ti5 grandpa got me there

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          August 4, 2015 4:05 PM

          LOL he's 4 years younger than me and only 4 years older than the shack average. Just turned great early I'd guess. He's an econ prof in Toronto and a big stats guy, maybe he dyes it for more respectability. :)

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            August 4, 2015 5:31 PM

            I once worked with a guy who had a full head of grey and white hair in his late 20s.

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        August 4, 2015 4:04 PM

        Tim Gunn's much less fabulous brother

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      August 4, 2015 4:31 PM

      D D O S B O Y S

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      August 4, 2015 4:47 PM

      Poor Team Secret. ;D

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      August 4, 2015 5:14 PM

      WTH!.. Lets have an interview with a Chinese player, but lets not have a translator around to help. They should have been prepared for that.

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        August 4, 2015 5:17 PM

        ROTK likes to speak in english and they always have Josh on standby for translations. ROTK has said before he's comfortable speaking in English but sometimes it gets away from him. They ask these players before hand if they want to speak in their native language or not.

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          August 4, 2015 5:18 PM

          I guess that makes sense. It just seemed awkward and un prepared.

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            August 4, 2015 5:23 PM

            ROTK is always awkward in interviews. But I love the guy.

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            August 4, 2015 5:31 PM

            That was all rotk just being amped up/stressed out/weird.

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        August 4, 2015 5:17 PM

        They may have taken him at his word that he could handle the English. She did not slow down for him either when it was clear his English was a problem. She might have thought he was camera shy or something. Both screwed up in overestimating his English.

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      August 4, 2015 5:20 PM

      The Lower Bracket - MVP.P vs Empire staring

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      August 4, 2015 5:21 PM

      Secret doing the Na'Vi strat. Taking the lower bracket path to the finals.

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      August 4, 2015 5:24 PM

      I like this stats guy. His stats are off the wall and wouldn't work mainstream, but they are actually quite insightful.

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      August 4, 2015 5:33 PM

      This is a fun draft for the first game of MVP_P and Empire. I'm excited for MVP as I haven't seen any of those heroes (so far) in the tourney. I'm guessing that means that they'll be destroyed. Oh.. TA. I've seen TA.

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        August 4, 2015 5:34 PM

        Yeah I like MVP so far in the tournament. They are fun and I want them to keep going.

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        August 4, 2015 5:34 PM

        These Bo1's always bring out the good different picks

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        August 4, 2015 5:35 PM

        Orb teams... Haven't won at all have they ????

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        August 4, 2015 5:37 PM

        yeah looks very different from other drafts. Bristle is my boy, hoping MVP takes this.

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        August 4, 2015 5:38 PM

        Loving the lina lion combo. At first I was like WHY would you pick lion when lina is available. Why not just pick both? BLAP

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          August 4, 2015 5:39 PM

          I'm not a fan of pairing them up. I feel like you get into a lot of situations where one person uses their ult, and the other is left without a good target. There is too much overlap in their skills.

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            August 4, 2015 5:40 PM

            I like it, it's bold. I also like bristle wisp! I like this draft except I know deep down it might fail!

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              August 4, 2015 5:40 PM

              Bristle/Wisp is good.

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              August 4, 2015 6:22 PM

              Also a great response to Wyvern. Anything cold embraced is a huge target for by heroes

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          August 4, 2015 5:44 PM

          Lion is such an obnoxious bully of a hero. A little surprised he hasn't been picked more.

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            August 4, 2015 5:46 PM

            The analysts said he has the worst record in the TI so far of any commonly picked heros.

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            August 4, 2015 5:47 PM

            He's even more obnoxious once he gets Blink

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        August 4, 2015 6:10 PM

        Holy cow, that turn by TA!

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      August 4, 2015 5:39 PM

      lol "plz no ddosing server"

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      August 4, 2015 6:10 PM

      holy shit that turn around. TA is faaaaaaaaaaaaat

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      August 4, 2015 6:11 PM

      FUCKING QO!!

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        August 4, 2015 6:14 PM

        great game. LOVE korea dota

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          August 4, 2015 6:14 PM

          So much this. These guys are fun. Will root for them.

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          August 4, 2015 6:22 PM

          I love it, they sort of have their own meta since they can't really play with any other scene.

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      August 4, 2015 6:14 PM

      LOL @ Resolution rage quit.

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      August 4, 2015 6:16 PM

      Can we agree that was the best Io play of TI5? Holy shit!

      Relocate kills with Bristle, TA and mother fucking LION!!! WTF?

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        August 4, 2015 6:17 PM

        Best team play certainly, maybe the biggest support play too. QO's blink double there though was so amazing.

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          August 4, 2015 6:19 PM

          Yeah, QO was absolutely on point. Amazing awareness to know just when to re-engage even when it's 1v3 and end up cleaning them up 1 by 1. Jesus, just insane.

          But that Io play is just blowing my mind right now. When Io tethered to Lion to chase Storm, I thought that was a nice cheeky play...not often you see Storm fleeing from Lion. But then when Io relocated Lion to take out the Wyvern, man that was awesome.

          MVP Phoenix is such a blast to watch.

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        August 4, 2015 6:19 PM

        Io kill with Lion on Wyvern was something else

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      August 4, 2015 6:23 PM

      C'mon Techie! I want to see a game with them!

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        August 4, 2015 6:28 PM

        You shut your dirty whore mouth!

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          August 4, 2015 6:32 PM

          You don't like fun?

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            August 4, 2015 6:34 PM

            The only thing worse than watching a Techies match is playing in a Techies match. Yes, there can be some funny mine kills, but it pales in comparison to what kind of gameplay is possible with this caliber of players and more engaging heroes.

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              August 4, 2015 6:35 PM

              Yeah techies are the worst.

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              August 4, 2015 6:36 PM

              Not really, the pro Techies matches have actually been entertaining. Especially when Aui got to play them. Dude was playing them like the Demoman in TF2.

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                August 4, 2015 6:38 PM

                I agree that pro Techies isn't like the typical pub match Techies, but it still isn't nearly as entertaining as watching heroes that just run at the enemy team and go ape shit.

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      August 4, 2015 6:28 PM

      When they are showing video fo the teams during the drafting phase, picture-in-picture should be the only way they do it. The draft window should be on screen at all times.

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        August 4, 2015 6:32 PM

        agreed, I hate when picks happen and you can hear the commentators talking about it but the pick isn't on screen.

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        August 4, 2015 6:32 PM

        This, so much. They were doing better later in the day yesterday, but they've been fucking it up constantly today.

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        August 4, 2015 6:33 PM

        dota2.com/watch has the draft tab?

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      August 4, 2015 6:32 PM

      "Once PL gets diff... There goes fun."

      Lol. So much truth.

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      August 4, 2015 6:44 PM

      The BH SB combo is evil.

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        August 4, 2015 6:49 PM

        I feel like I am watching BH call in air strikes from SB.

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          August 4, 2015 6:49 PM

          yeah this is uuuugly. Don't see empire coming back

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            August 4, 2015 6:51 PM

            lol that fight might help

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            August 4, 2015 6:52 PM

            Dayum. MVP brought it back. That first wave Empire can take, but then Lina and WD stroll in and it is like.....how much damage? Oh all of it.

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        August 4, 2015 6:57 PM

        lol at the spirit breaker buyback. March only knows going ham.

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      August 4, 2015 6:49 PM

      How did undying dodge laguna, I missed that?

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        August 4, 2015 6:51 PM

        Snowball. Small window, but possible.

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          August 4, 2015 6:53 PM

          I rewound it, it wasn't the snowball. It was bane. The casters made it sound like undying dodged it on his own so I was wondering.

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      August 4, 2015 6:52 PM

      MVP's courier is named Sexy Warnutz hahahaha

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      August 4, 2015 6:56 PM

      Game 2 just went tits up.

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        August 4, 2015 6:59 PM

        This might be the best series of the tournament so far. No one wants to push, it's just flat out brawling

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        August 4, 2015 7:04 PM

        MVP is just so tactically smart in those fights. They come in waves. They bring in the big damage after the disables. It is just wonderful to watch.

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        August 4, 2015 7:17 PM

        MVP GO March! who would have thought this shit. winners bracket to out!

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      August 4, 2015 7:16 PM

      This might be the best game I've seen so far.

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        August 4, 2015 7:17 PM

        That was crazy

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        August 4, 2015 7:17 PM

        So well played. I didn't watch MVP much in the group. How did they end up in loser's bracket?

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      August 4, 2015 7:16 PM

      damn MVP, Good Game

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      August 4, 2015 7:17 PM

      MVP fun to watch.

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      August 4, 2015 7:17 PM

      what a performance

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        August 4, 2015 7:17 PM

        QO dude is next level

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          August 4, 2015 7:18 PM

          Waga is so right. MVP and CDEC are mad fun to watch.

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            August 4, 2015 7:19 PM

            Yea I love the hyper team fight style in this TI. No push, no farm, fight fight fight

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          August 4, 2015 7:19 PM

          QO and Febby are just so talented in different ways. I felt like Febby Quarterbacked the early game.

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      August 4, 2015 7:23 PM

      lol kaci don't kill the MVP team jfc

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      August 4, 2015 7:24 PM

      what happened to the troll looking dude that used to be on the panel in between games?

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      August 4, 2015 7:25 PM

      C9 vs VG starting

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        August 4, 2015 7:26 PM

        I wasn't going to watch every game tonight. So much for that.

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          August 4, 2015 7:28 PM

          Well this is the last match so its not too bad. Hopefully the games arent too long.

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            August 4, 2015 7:29 PM

            Yeah I missed the earliest games while I was at work. I was just going to watch two series, but I can't resist C9 - Vici.

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        August 4, 2015 7:29 PM

        I'm so sad that the winner of this series will be facing MVP.P in the next series, because C9 remains my #1 team, and I hope they make it into the top 4, but that means that MVP.P won't make it.

        I guess the good thing is that I will be able to root for one of the two going into the top 4.

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          August 4, 2015 7:30 PM

          Why did you have to bring that up? :(

          Fun dota for the win.

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          August 4, 2015 7:32 PM

          C9 is such a weird team but they also have really talented players. Sometimes they stomp and other times they just don't make sense to me.

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        August 4, 2015 7:31 PM

        Time to bust out all the voodoo magic for C9.

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        August 4, 2015 7:34 PM

        N0tail looks upset. Threw his papers on the desk.

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          August 4, 2015 7:40 PM

          They threw away their winner bracket advantage by going 0-2 against cdec. Also was one of the original team secret members.

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            August 4, 2015 7:42 PM

            I heard him do commentary during drafts for the Summit and the guy really knows some stuff. Bone7 sat down during part of it and the two of them argued a lot. If that is anything like their team dynamic, that would be frustrating and explain a lot.

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            August 4, 2015 7:54 PM

            Going by group stage performance, no way cdec was a guaranteed win in any way.

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            August 4, 2015 7:59 PM

            What does your second sentence have to do with anything?

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        August 4, 2015 7:37 PM

        Dis gon b gud

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          August 4, 2015 7:43 PM

          IO WISP THINGY lololol C9 uphill battle time

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        August 4, 2015 7:39 PM

        That heart head thing may have been the best goofy segway so far from the desk today.

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        August 4, 2015 7:48 PM

        I'm thinking silencer would be great as final pick for C9 here...

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          August 4, 2015 7:49 PM

          Uh, maybe not after that spectre pick, lol

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          August 4, 2015 7:49 PM

          Offlane silencer? Never heard of that.

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        August 4, 2015 8:00 PM

        Holy shit lol

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        August 4, 2015 8:04 PM

        This series is going to be the death of me.

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        August 4, 2015 8:08 PM

        It's good to see C9 doing such a good job focusing Spectre to delay him coming online, but I don't know if they're getting enough out of it...

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        August 4, 2015 8:12 PM

        misery carrying c9 pretty hard ...

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        August 4, 2015 8:12 PM

        ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?!?!?!?!?!

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        August 4, 2015 8:12 PM

        (o_ º)

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        August 4, 2015 8:12 PM

        ahhhhh twitch just bombed.

        PICNIC?!?!??!

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        August 4, 2015 8:13 PM

        RIP stream. So, freaking frustrating!

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          August 4, 2015 8:13 PM

          In game is still going.

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            August 4, 2015 8:24 PM

            Away from home doing work stuff and I'm stuck with streaming only. EG and C9 were the two matches I wanted to watch. Hope it calms down.

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        August 4, 2015 8:22 PM

        ahhhhhh that's such a fatal mistake from Hao.... hugely delayed radiance.

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        August 4, 2015 8:25 PM

        W I P E O U T B O Y S

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        August 4, 2015 8:28 PM

        I love that shadow fiend swagger

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        August 4, 2015 8:30 PM

        LOL

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        August 4, 2015 8:30 PM

        Ok, holy shit Rubic. Holy shit. Holy.......shit.....

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        August 4, 2015 8:30 PM

        FUCK this game

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        August 4, 2015 8:40 PM

        What was that?!?!?!?!

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        August 4, 2015 8:40 PM

        Rubick ban game 2, pls :(

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        August 4, 2015 8:44 PM

        adlfkjaslfkj;alskfdjasdf

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          August 4, 2015 8:45 PM

          Just let it all out man. You have another game to go at least.

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        August 4, 2015 8:46 PM

        FY Fighhhhttiiiinnnnggggggggg!

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        August 4, 2015 8:46 PM

        Meanwhile, at the radiant base...

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          August 4, 2015 8:50 PM

          That was funny. After all these kills, the creeps felt like ending the game.

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        August 4, 2015 8:50 PM

        C9 all in throne play, come on!!!

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          August 4, 2015 8:52 PM

          EE is a big fan of throwing his team at the enemy ancient and getting wiped.

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          August 4, 2015 9:01 PM

          There it is.

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            August 4, 2015 9:06 PM

            They forgot about backdoor protection...

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              August 4, 2015 9:10 PM

              The problem is that they waited until they got the glyph back to make the move.

              They have a fucking Io and they should have been using it to keep porting in and poking away at their base or pushing the lane to keep it in, then porting back. There was a good 20 minutes where Io didn't use his relocate even once.

              Compare that to how aggressive the Io was using his relocate in the last series. Why pick hero's if you aren't going to utilize them at every opportunity. You can't just sit back and wait for the dream play, you need to use the tools you have to keep the pressure on.

              FUCK! I'm so angry at C9 for giving that game up. But I'm just telling myself that at least C9 is looking much better today than they did yesterday. They can do this still.

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                August 4, 2015 9:14 PM

                Febby called the shots as Io. N0tail got dragged around and killed a lot.

                Carries are meatheads. Let them do their thing getting amazing kills, but someone needs to call the shots for the whole team and they need to have confidence everyone will go with them. C9 seems to have some severe issues with the decision tree. They make a couple mistakes early, don't turn around during that fight and then get gun shy for the rest of the game.

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        August 4, 2015 8:54 PM

        Oh fuck, Rubick with the Octarine. He's going to drop every one of C9's spells in the next fight. :(

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        August 4, 2015 8:55 PM

        63'

        At this point both of these teams can leave. I'll root for MVP instead. Get some courage.

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          August 4, 2015 9:02 PM

          C9 definitely hesitated way too long. Hopefully they learn and come out swinging in game 2.

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            August 4, 2015 9:03 PM

            I actually think if they had not wimped out on that Dust with Hao they could have done some serious damage. Probably taken a Tier 4.

            That was when they lost it.

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            August 4, 2015 9:03 PM

            Woooooowwwww

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          August 4, 2015 9:21 PM

          gyro got deleted off the map way too many times out of the blink-lift + ice blast and laguna blade. he never actually was in the fights.

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            August 4, 2015 9:24 PM

            that aa blast into the wisp relocate hurt a LOT, multiple consecutive times. straight deleted.

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        August 4, 2015 9:10 PM

        Game 2 starting

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          August 4, 2015 9:48 PM

          Man just gg out. This is a snowball.

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      August 4, 2015 7:50 PM

      lmao @ the Tusk Sigil

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      August 4, 2015 8:13 PM

      WAT DA FUCK

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        August 4, 2015 8:19 PM

        Again for srs??

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          August 4, 2015 8:31 PM

          This game is like a harrier showdown. But I don't have a harrier. /gun

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      August 4, 2015 8:23 PM

      Welp I've swapped between Valve, Twitch and Youtube about 5 times now trying to catch the stream that actually is working at any given moment.

      And there goes the Valve stream again. :(

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        August 4, 2015 8:23 PM

        Client is running fine if you can do that.

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          August 4, 2015 8:25 PM

          Might need to. I prefer to have it on the TV though. Twitch is back at least for now.

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            August 4, 2015 8:25 PM

            Laptop and an hdmi?

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              August 4, 2015 8:27 PM

              Same PC I play on actually but different resolutions, config, etc. makes it more awkward for in-game on TV except for games I can play with a wireless controller.

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        August 4, 2015 8:24 PM

        In game client has had no outages.

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      August 4, 2015 8:30 PM

      FY is just something else. That was incredible.

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      August 4, 2015 9:02 PM

      HOLY WHAT THE FUCK

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      August 4, 2015 9:05 PM

      Fy.. Amazing.

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      August 4, 2015 9:06 PM

      That was a crazy game.

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      August 4, 2015 9:07 PM

      Clown9 is legit. Holy Jesus. And Fy is insane.

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        August 4, 2015 9:10 PM

        I seriously think C9 would be a great team if EE wasn't in it. And maybe FATA.

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          August 4, 2015 9:10 PM

          I agree.

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          August 4, 2015 9:11 PM

          EE is a skilled player, but he should not be allowed to make any initiation decisions. Ever. Ever ever.

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      August 4, 2015 9:07 PM

      backdoor protection on the throne? that's lame. if it's exposed it should be fair game

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        August 4, 2015 9:09 PM

        lol come on, do you know how easy it would be for certain heroes to just TP in if it didn't have it?

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          August 4, 2015 9:09 PM

          Yeah no backdoor protection would be really lame. All rats all day long if that was the case.

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        August 4, 2015 9:15 PM

        All that's needed is a single creep to step foot in the base to remove it. They didn't plan ahead for the backdoor strat at all, because they would have invested more taken more risks to keep those lanes pushed.

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          August 4, 2015 9:22 PM

          What if io relocated in with a creep?

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            August 4, 2015 9:27 PM

            You can't.

            September 21, 2012 Patch

            Fixed being able to Relocate a Tethered creep to the enemy base.

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              August 4, 2015 9:28 PM

              Ahhh, gotcha. I haven't played in a couple years, so not up to date on small things and changes

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      August 4, 2015 9:09 PM

      Every match today has been 2-0. RIP C9.

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      August 4, 2015 9:25 PM

      WTF is Pugna?

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      August 4, 2015 9:28 PM

      HO HO HA HA!

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      August 4, 2015 9:31 PM

      EE going for the early throw.

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      August 4, 2015 9:35 PM

      Come on C9 wtf, get your shit together. This is an elimination game...

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        August 4, 2015 9:42 PM

        Sniper pick is pretty neat. I always hated laning against him

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        August 4, 2015 9:48 PM

        This draft is just idgaf. Zero cc. Next level embarrassing.

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          August 4, 2015 9:50 PM

          This draft was really, really stupid on C9's part.

          See you next year, boys.

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            August 4, 2015 9:51 PM

            Next year when EE is kicked and n0Tail starts a new team with Fly and Dendi.

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              August 4, 2015 9:54 PM

              I'd love to see that team. Who carry and offlane?

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                August 4, 2015 9:57 PM

                Dendi can be mid and Fly off. I'd love to see n0tail return back to being a carry though. I miss his Meepos :(

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                  August 4, 2015 9:58 PM

                  Fly said in his interview he preferred being support over offlane.

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                    August 4, 2015 10:05 PM

                    But if it went Dendi mid, N0tail carry and Fly offlane...what, you poach Kuroky and Puppey for support?

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        August 4, 2015 9:49 PM

        C9 is done by 30

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        August 4, 2015 9:49 PM

        Desperation smoke. C9 is done unless VG throws harder than Solo.

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      August 4, 2015 9:49 PM

      Pretty sure that I'll be able to go to sleep at a decent time tonight.

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      August 4, 2015 9:51 PM

      Shit is over fellas. And they drafted SF for FATA again. What is it with these teams? It's like they hope that repicking the same hero that failed them miserably before it somehow going to magically work in the next.

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        August 4, 2015 9:52 PM

        Fata is a great SF. They were just blindsided by the sniper pick, who is close to auto win in that matchup.

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          August 4, 2015 9:54 PM

          Sniper was a BM pick just because c9 drafted 0 disable

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          August 4, 2015 9:55 PM

          Which is why they should have rotated qop mid.

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            August 4, 2015 9:57 PM

            qop loses that lanes easily too... especially with a level disadvantage.

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      August 4, 2015 9:58 PM

      Haha, oh man. C9 look so disorganized right now.

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      August 4, 2015 9:59 PM

      Well then. Rooting for MVP in this losers' bracket.

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      August 4, 2015 10:00 PM

      Great game 2 by VG, that sniper pick worked out amazingly. That’s the VG we've missed this tournament.

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      August 4, 2015 11:46 PM

      RIP most of Western Dota T_T.

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        August 5, 2015 12:18 AM

        Kinda hard to care about the international if it's just a bunch of Chinese teams

        Is there a non-Chinese team that could still win besides EG?

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          August 5, 2015 12:22 AM

          Secret, MVP, Complexity, and Virtus Pro are all still in the tournament.

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          August 5, 2015 12:36 AM

          Why the dislike for Chinese dota teams? There are some really talented interesting players on the Chinese teams.

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            August 5, 2015 2:54 AM

            It's like the Olympics. Once your country is knocked out you stop giving a shit and just start rooting against the least fav country.

            Also, fuck China.

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            August 5, 2015 7:18 AM

            Well some of them are awesome, some are boring, but mostly it boils down to diversity being more fun to watch