Weekend Discussion

This weekend I'm hitting up the FanExpo in Toronto. The event combines everything from comics, anime, sci-fi, horror and gaming. And it's huge.

Although there will be a healthy gaming presence at the show, my real concern is picking up some new reading material.

So, I turn to the coming-reading Shack Community for suggestions. What comics and/or trades are you reading? Which did you love? Hate? Help me spend money!

  • Alice O'Connor: [Doesn't need to answer no stinkin' emails.]
  • Brian Leahy: This weekend I'll probably be checking out Mafia II and my recent time with Halo: Reach will probably send me back to some Halo 3 multiplayer. Oh, and I'll surely get in some Civ V and StarCraft II.
  • Garnett Lee: Valkyria Chronicles 2, F1 2010, and more Beat Hazard!
  • Jeff Mattas: Shank. Worms Reloaded. Persona 4. I believe eclectic is the word.
  • Xav de Matos: It's FanExpo Weekend in Toronto. Checking out the gaming action there and picking up some new reading material. When I get back home, it's about wrapping up Metroid: Other M for review.
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    August 28, 2010 8:07 AM

    Weekend Discussion Minecraft Thread
    Less tags than _jon's GTA posts edition

    Multiplayer Alpha Servers!
    MercFox1 : 74.83.233.187:25566
    Haxim : 199.216.192.102
    zuff : 75.178.46.57
    AgentPothead : shackcraft.sytes.net

    Teamspeak : ts.shackbattles.com : 9987

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      August 28, 2010 8:10 AM

      :( The only time I've been sad to be beaten to the punch on these.

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        August 28, 2010 8:11 AM

        lol I would've waited for you, but you haven't done a single one since you claimed to be back on top of it a few days back

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      August 28, 2010 8:10 AM

      Important Links

      Persister Link: http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/persister_082310.jar

      Shack MineCraft Wiki: http://shackwiki.com/wiki/Minecraft Contribute and edit!

      UPDATED OIZOMAPPER RENDER: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/20100828_0123.png Rendered: 1:24 AM EST

      ANNOTATED MAP: http://www.maplib.net/map.php?id=10348&lat=-53.41444321055104&lng=35.79620361328125&z=11

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        August 29, 2010 1:10 PM

        I added a "minecraft textures" subpage and an installation guide for OSX. So right now it only has installation guides, but i figure ppl can add popular texture packs later. I probably bungled the formatting but whatever, some content is better than zero.

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      August 28, 2010 8:13 AM

      Xevo, did the spawn move ever work at all? I never saw it work successfully, but haven't actually played since the attempt to change it. I just joined once to see if it worked, and saw no difference.

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        August 28, 2010 8:24 AM

        oh wait that's a good point, after you sent it to him was that day when the minecraft.net site was down, and then the next morning was when people couldn't seem to connect to his server even though it was still up. So yeah, I guess the spawn move never actually took at all =/

        Well, this is all the more reason why we need hey0's mod and the /sethome command!

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          August 28, 2010 9:07 AM

          Zuff has that mod running and it is awesome. It makes building tall structures easier.

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      August 28, 2010 8:18 AM

      Where's the latest Persister at?

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        August 28, 2010 8:18 AM

        AHGERGSDKJ! Learn to refresh, cuntface!

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          August 28, 2010 8:28 AM

          don't worry about it, I should've included a bunch of those links in the root post, but I'm no Dong Patrol!

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      August 28, 2010 8:33 AM

      I wish my buckets would work in zuff's server so i can plant my damn wheat in the greenhouse :(

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        August 28, 2010 8:44 AM

        just hack in enough water spawns to make it happen

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          August 28, 2010 9:12 AM

          don't need to hack it in since the water's a few steps away from where i need it to be.

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        August 28, 2010 10:44 AM

        I fixed. Buckets should be working as normal now!

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          August 28, 2010 2:11 PM

          how about a new cartograph :D

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            August 28, 2010 2:43 PM

            oizo>carto

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              August 28, 2010 2:48 PM

              I dont know about that. It may be faster, but so far from what I've seen Carto looks better. It seems in the angled shots that oizo doesn't see the block properly (because you can see through it). Maybe this has been fixed. I am not sure.

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                August 28, 2010 2:52 PM

                It's better in the fact that as far as I know MrOizo is still working on it, whereas I don't think cartograph will be updated anymore. Carto doesn't even work with my map anymore because of the size, it hasn't in a few weeks. So it still being updated + it actually works. I think oizo is still tweaking the colors I don't know, I know a few versions ago he sent me made the ice, snow, and glass look much much better than they did.

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                August 28, 2010 2:55 PM

                here's the latest Merc one, are you seeing any of those problems here -- http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/20100828_0123.png

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                  August 28, 2010 3:04 PM

                  Hmmmm... That looks good. Zuff's had see through blocks for some portions of the buildings.

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                    August 28, 2010 3:25 PM

                    I haven't noticed that, but I didn't scrutinize the zuff maps either.

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                    August 28, 2010 6:02 PM

                    That was a bug I fixed yesterday.

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            August 28, 2010 2:48 PM

            Shadowdane was also just asking for a new map

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            August 29, 2010 8:49 AM

            Yes please new map is needed! :-)

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          August 28, 2010 5:23 PM

          oh crap, thank you! i can't wait to get started on that damn wheat farm :D

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      August 28, 2010 8:58 AM

      FYI - Merc's Server is shutting down sometime this morning as he's moving to a better place--or so he thinks!]\

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      August 28, 2010 9:20 AM

      INTERACTIVE MAP for mercfox's server

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      August 28, 2010 10:01 AM

      Work progresses on my Dwarf Fortress to Minecraft conversion program.

      I have different types of plants in now, and fix an issue preventing 'block data' from being recorded correctly (now you can specify that torches be placed against a wall, or the growth state of crops).

      Latest test fortress:
      http://troz.shackspace.com/minecraft/df2mc/new/cavefortress.png
      A fortress built completely in a natural cave, with only minimal digging. This is actually the first fortress I played after the new DF came out in April. I had to reclaim this fortress - and this caused the normally muddy cave floor to have all the mud removed, and so the cave is mostly lit when normally it would be because of the mud.
      save: http://troz.shackspace.com/minecraft/df2mc/new/cavefortress3.mclevel

      I want to run some more tests, but I'll hopefully have a new release tomorrow.

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      August 28, 2010 10:23 AM

      I just noticed that if you click each time you start mining a block, rather than holding the mouse button down, you actually mine considerably faster. Once you get good at the timing you can make a stone pick work almost as fast as holding the button down with an iron pick.

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        August 28, 2010 11:56 AM

        Yeah, works great with a diamond shovel. Practically goes away instantly.

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      August 28, 2010 11:57 AM

      MercFox1 server down?

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        August 28, 2010 11:57 AM

        looks like it, I can't get back in

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        August 28, 2010 11:58 AM

        yah he is moving today... he said it would be down for a while today while he moves the server.

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          August 28, 2010 12:00 PM

          Yeah he said earlier that it would probably be back up sometime tonight (but no guarantees I imagine).

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      August 28, 2010 12:34 PM

      Anything interesting going on with non-Merc servers? These threads always suffer when his server has issues...

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        August 28, 2010 12:39 PM

        I play a little on other servers but I've started a big project on Merc's server so I don't want to spread my time out too much or I'll get bored.

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        August 28, 2010 2:11 PM

        you could help me on Zuff's server. Im building a huge castle there and walls need to go up on 3 sides :D Two towers down, 6 to go. BTW, anyone who wants to start building in the center is more than welcome, just keep away from the very center if you would. Im going to make a town square there. You could start leveling everything in the center except for water features and caves. Maybe a gradual slope to the sea (since there is part of a sea inside of the castle... yes it is huge).

        Also, if you wanted to start building some sort of leveled system instide of the walls of the castle that would be great. I am thinking that there might be a minecart level for transportation of goods, a housing level, etc..... These are all ideas, nothing set in stone. Let me know what you think!

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          August 28, 2010 5:18 PM

          awesome. will do after i get home from a baseball game tonight

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            August 28, 2010 5:59 PM

            2 more towers close to completion. Only 3.5 to go. Walls are going up everywhere!! Thanks for all the help th3os, ricin, and chandler!!

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      August 28, 2010 12:49 PM

      Can someone post a link to the cartographer or whatever it is you guys use to generate the maps. I just want to see what I have done in my SP.

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      August 28, 2010 4:54 PM

      You guys might be interested in some of the stuff Shackers have been making in the GTA4 trainer. It's quite a different environment when you're dealing with prefabbed objects like ramps, oil tanks, etc rather than individual blocks but there are some cool ways to be creative with sky bridges, redirecting traffic into ramps of death or tracks made entirely of half pipes. It's pretty cool.

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        August 28, 2010 5:48 PM

        heh I knew you would show up at some point if I invoked your name! =P

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      August 28, 2010 5:49 PM

      you'd think with his half a million dollars he'd invest in a dedicated authentication server.

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        August 28, 2010 5:52 PM

        i'm sad that the server is down - hopefully better next week

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      August 28, 2010 5:58 PM

      Newbie Protip: If you're going to go mining/messing around near lava in SP, put all your stuff in storage first.

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        August 28, 2010 6:04 PM

        heh, sounds like ya lost some diamond armor

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          August 28, 2010 6:32 PM

          naw, i finally FOUND diamond though, and was trying to mine it lol

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        August 28, 2010 7:19 PM

        yah i lost a lot of diamond in SP... i was jumping over a small lava stream one block wide. i didn't make it and got stuck in the lava. :(

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          August 28, 2010 8:05 PM

          low ceiling I bet, I hate when that screws up a jump

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        August 28, 2010 8:09 PM

        the key to this I found is to carry a bucket of water around with you when you go mining so if this happens you can save yourself by throwing the water underneath you

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          August 29, 2010 1:38 AM

          Fkn genius, thanks for the tip :D

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            August 29, 2010 3:33 PM

            ..aaand its already saved me from losing everything once so far =)

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          August 29, 2010 10:17 AM

          heh, why didn't i think of this sooner, thx!

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      August 28, 2010 6:23 PM

      I.. I ... was about finished, just had to connect one last hallway and the connection died....

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        August 28, 2010 7:09 PM

        I wish i could reconnect and finish, needed 20 mins :(

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          August 28, 2010 8:21 PM

          Yeah I just sent you a shack message. Apparently it's not my server! So that's good. But apparently minecraft.net is down for everybody, so that explains that.

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          August 29, 2010 2:07 AM

          Okay 20 mins turned into 6 hours, but damn I'm done with that fuckasshuge cavern, i didnt know about tnt, and carved the whole thing out with my pickaxe/shovel :(

          Then again it looks more awesome with lavaflows and waterfalls and not a crater.

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            August 29, 2010 6:26 AM

            Haha damn dood. I was honestly surprised you were not still on there when I woke up :D

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      August 29, 2010 12:11 AM

      Check out this new cartograph program an SA Goon created. It's pretty damn sweet.

      http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3323710&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=471#post381446075

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      August 29, 2010 7:03 AM

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      August 29, 2010 9:18 AM

      Is there a way to repair tools in single player?

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      August 29, 2010 9:38 AM

      TEMPORARY MERC SERVER IP:

      75.186.55.158:25566

      It's complicated but my moving process is going to be a two-parter instead of the simple process I envisioned. :\ Next weekend we'll see some similar downtime. In the meantime this temporary IP should connect you to the server.

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      August 29, 2010 9:39 AM

      ^ Sunday Bump

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      August 29, 2010 9:53 AM

      People wanted a map. http://agentpothead.com/after.png that is from about an hour ago. If you look closely in this picture http://agentpothead.com/grid.png you can see the stack of I think 1000 tnt that turned into that large dark grey spot on the first map.

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      August 29, 2010 11:18 AM

      goddamnit some fucking asshole set fire to my bookstore on zuff's server!!! he might've done other stuff too

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        August 29, 2010 12:41 PM

        also, zuff we need cartograph of server plz :)

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        August 29, 2010 12:42 PM

        somebody mentioned that stuff was on fire by the spawn, I wonder why he disabled so much of llamacraft, which not only stops the fires but also makes buckets work (which was disabled until yesterday apparently).

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          August 29, 2010 12:44 PM

          no idea...

          ZUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!

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            August 29, 2010 1:15 PM

            first lag! then no carto, and now fires everywhere?

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      August 29, 2010 11:59 AM

      would you guys be interested in a PK (PvP) server? ive been thinking about it for a bit now.

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        August 29, 2010 12:40 PM

        what's the point, you can't currently take or do damage. also, the combat in SP is pretty weak as well.

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          August 29, 2010 12:42 PM

          but we can build forts!

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          August 29, 2010 12:50 PM

          I think some kind ctf rule would work where a team has to attack a flag by destroying it and defend their own, rules would have to be agreed (like no tnt) on but it could work

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            August 29, 2010 12:52 PM

            I'd be willing to check it out if somebody came up with a good idea, but I'm just not seeing it myself.

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        August 29, 2010 6:10 PM

        I will attempt to build a server of this caliper and see what fun we can have.

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      August 29, 2010 12:18 PM

      damnit!

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        August 29, 2010 12:40 PM

        i got booted too but at least i finished again, kinda bummed my work isnt being saved at times losing 12 hrs of digging sucks :(

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          August 29, 2010 12:49 PM

          I'm really so sorry about that dood :( I don't get why only you are getting hit with it either :( Nobody else seems to be losing edits.

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      August 29, 2010 12:30 PM

      What's up with the persister? I launched it now and it asks for login. Updated?

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        August 29, 2010 12:33 PM

        minecraft.net issue. Server is acting funky.

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          August 29, 2010 12:37 PM

          Safe to use? He's not trying to steal my minecraft account is he?

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            August 29, 2010 12:39 PM

            i dunno. I can't log in to anything right now.

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            August 29, 2010 12:41 PM

            it's fine, it only does that when it can't authenticate with the website

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      August 29, 2010 12:47 PM

      Can't even register on the main site, much less buy it to play with you guys, web errors ahoy. =\

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        August 29, 2010 12:54 PM

        Yeah the site's been getting slammed since the end of the week, apparently some high profile YouTube channels have been linking to the site, and since the owner is in the US he doesn't have much control over his server (which apparently he usually manually resets when it starts to get slow).

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        August 29, 2010 12:54 PM

        yah web server is down again... his server has been getting hit hard ever since a few youtubers posted videos of the game.

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        August 29, 2010 1:13 PM

        Keep trying, I got through yesterday, eventually

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        August 29, 2010 1:23 PM

        Everything is back up, can logon to the website and game again.

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        August 29, 2010 1:48 PM

        Oh sweet, I got through. Which server is populated / up right now?

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      August 29, 2010 1:11 PM

      Minecraft Textures - http://shackwiki.com/wiki/Minecraft_textures

      - I added an install guide for Mac OSX
      - Windows install guide moved into there
      - Please add a popular texture packs section

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      August 29, 2010 2:37 PM

      Murray and conandan, add me to steam so incase something happens (like it did today) you can easily get a hold of me.
      steam: zdiddy85

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      August 29, 2010 2:54 PM

      Caszuffania new cartographs:
      Oizo (now with built in labels! thanks oizo!)
      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1125473/Caszuffania-Oizo.png

      Cart: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1125473/Caszuffvania-After.png

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        August 29, 2010 3:36 PM

        wha, built in labels? what sorcery is this?!?

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        August 29, 2010 9:58 PM

        zuff, have you seen the cove we added in heidi's castle? it's a port cove and really awesome

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        August 29, 2010 6:07 PM

        lol. poor guy.

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        August 29, 2010 6:15 PM

        It's amazing that his registration system is getting swamped by the number of requests he's getting. I would have figured his player base would have peaked by now.

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          August 29, 2010 8:24 PM

          It's not even in Beta yet is it? I think it's just going to keep getting bigger and bigger. And good for him, it's an awesome game.

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            August 29, 2010 8:33 PM

            yah it started as just a niche game, but it has really grown in popularity. Once Notch gets SMP properly running I think its gonna balloon in popularity.

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            August 29, 2010 8:34 PM

            I love that he's practically set for life. Definitely a dream job situation.

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          August 29, 2010 8:32 PM

          last I checked he had 40,000 purchases which was ~2 weeks ago. he now has well over 80k.

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        August 29, 2010 8:32 PM

        Assuming $13 per purchase he has made over $1.1M

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          August 29, 2010 10:34 PM

          Yea, but in his country the taxes are about 90% after a million or something like that.

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            August 30, 2010 12:38 AM

            Assuming he's swedish thats a bit exagerated :) His speeding tickets will be massive though :p

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          August 29, 2010 11:52 PM

          4600 sales in last 24 hrs.... WTF

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        August 30, 2010 4:37 AM

        paypal are such cunts

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      August 29, 2010 8:06 PM

      If you are building something high up, is there an easier way to build other then inching towards the end of the block and hope yo don't fall off?

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        August 29, 2010 8:21 PM

        Stand toward the edge, look slightly left move right. Moves you toward the edge slower.

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          August 29, 2010 8:22 PM

          Curses, I was hoping there was a way other than that as I have a ginormous thing I am working on in the sky.

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            August 29, 2010 11:37 PM

            Sand, gravel and mud make for great scaffolding.

            Sand to get high, mud for platforms. Then you can remove the sand/gravel from the bottom and let gravity do the rest.

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        August 29, 2010 11:45 PM

        Place a block in front of you, walk directly forward into the block and slowly look in the direction of the side you want to see, works perfectly. Never fallen out of the sky since I started doing this.

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          August 30, 2010 12:26 AM

          Walk into the block? Not onto the block? I have no idea what you're describing.

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      August 29, 2010 9:04 PM

      UPDATED OIZOMAPPER RENDER

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/20100830_0000.png

      Rendered: 12:00 AM EST

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      August 29, 2010 11:17 PM

      Do signs save their text? I spent some time making signs and such but when i crashed the signs were blank :(

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      August 30, 2010 12:09 AM

      Saw a bunch of people in my server logs, that's good! But at 2am it started the server is overloaded bullshit again, that's bad :(

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        August 30, 2010 1:03 AM

        But it comes with a free Frogurt!

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        August 30, 2010 2:17 AM

        I logged into all the servers for a quick perv at all the spawns and surrounding structures. I can't go much further than that on this shitty internet I have at home. Minecraft is apparently quite needy in that respect. But soon I'll be back at Uni with big shiny internet! Sky-houses abound!

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          August 30, 2010 4:25 AM

          I saw a bunch of new names in the server logs. If you guys can catch me when I'm on the server or reading the server console I can give you mod. That helps with warping and teleporting and stuff like that.

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