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Elon Musk to reportedly fire 3,700 Twitter employees

Following mass firings, remote Twitter employees will need to report to in-person offices.

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There have been some massive changes to Twitter’s operations since Elon Musk took over, both on the user side and behind the scenes. The former CEO, CFO, and other top leadership have already been dismissed from the company following his takeover, and it now appears that a large portion of other employees will be shown the door as well. According to new reports, Elon Musk is planning to fire roughly half of Twitter’s staff.

CNBC reported that Elon Musk would be firing half of all Twitter staff following his takeover of the social media company. The outlet got a hold of internal communications where Musk coordinated a meeting with his top advisers to determine precisely how to go about the layoffs. Among the people expected to be present are David Sacks (Craft Ventures), Steve Davis (The Boring Company), and Sam Teller and Antonio Gracias (Valor Equity Partners). What’s more, details of this meeting were seen by a large share of Twitter workers, accidentally.

Elon Musk sitting in a chair on stage holding a microphone.

It’s no secret that Elon Musk is against remote work, and he’ll also bring that philosophy to Twitter. CNBC reports that of the Twitter employees that aren’t fired, the ones previously authorized to work from home will be required to come into the company’s in-person offices.

This story comes on top of what has been a whirlwind of Twitter news ever since Elon Musk officially took over as CEO. Within the next week or so, the billionaire is expected to launch a revamped version of Twitter Blue, which will put account verification and other unique features behind an $8 monthly paywall. It certainly won’t be the last major change coming to the company either, so be sure to bookmark our Twitter topic page for all future updates.

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    November 3, 2022 7:40 AM

    Donovan Erskine posted a new article, Elon Musk to reportedly fire 3,700 Twitter employees

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      November 3, 2022 7:55 AM

      > "Because it consists of billions of bidirectional interactions per day, Twitter can be thought of as a collective, cybernetic super-intelligence" - Elon

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        November 3, 2022 2:29 PM

        More like a racist, self-absorbed, narcissistic cybermoron.

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      November 3, 2022 7:57 AM

      "I'm not going to fire 75% of employees"

      "phew"

      "I'm just going to fire 50% of employees"

      "..."

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      November 3, 2022 7:58 AM

      Following mass firings, remote Twitter employees will need to report to in-person offices.

      It gets even better!

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        November 3, 2022 8:07 AM

        Anyone with a halfway decent skillset is going to abandon this company.

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          November 3, 2022 9:36 AM

          That should have happened long ago. Anyone still there is probably not the cream of the crop.

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            November 3, 2022 5:20 PM

            Or stuck on a visa. I have to keep reminding the shack that people on visas exist.

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          November 3, 2022 10:08 AM

          Not sure why I've never really noticed that twitter is not considered part of FAANG. Not sure if that has any ability for them to job hop as easily.

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            November 3, 2022 10:16 AM

            It's probably not large enough or with a broad enough tech platform / stack to hang with the others. But certainly there are extremely smart people working there. It's just a failure of leadership.

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            November 3, 2022 10:19 AM

            It’s because FAANG is a group of companies that actually make money

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              November 3, 2022 6:15 PM

              This.


              Whatever you want to say about the faangs at least they are actual working companies with some kind of revenue to offset the expenditures.

              Twitter doesn’t have a business model.

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        November 3, 2022 8:10 AM

        My god. Twitter is going to burn to the ground very soon.

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          November 3, 2022 8:12 AM

          this seems like a situation that could very easily lead to employee malice. i wonder if he's smart enough to revoke access before he starts.

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            November 3, 2022 9:47 AM

            I think that's the job of HR or IT unless there's enough pissed off employees in these departments.

            I wonder how much it would take to buy twitter from Elon if all the fired employees banded together?

            Divide $44 billion / 3700?

            Or would Elon want more than 44 billion? How many has been fired so far?

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              November 3, 2022 9:51 AM

              $11,891,891.89189189 apiece for the 3700 employees? lol not going to happen unless more employees join in.

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              November 3, 2022 8:56 PM

              Who the fuck would buy Twitter from Elon right now? Elon was the only person stupid enough to believe Twitter was worth buying in the first place!

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                November 3, 2022 8:58 PM

                People who don't want to be controlled by the likes of Elon?

                I liked Twitter when it was new and nerdy. Maybe somebody could take it back to those roots.

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          November 3, 2022 11:30 AM

          80/20 rule. Instagram was 13 employees for 30 million users when it sold to Facebook. It doesn't take 7500 people to keep the lights on at Twitter, it likely takes less than 100.

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            November 3, 2022 11:47 AM

            WhatsApp was 55 employees with 420 million monthly active users

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            November 3, 2022 11:49 AM

            I'd say it has more to do with a small number of employees having a huge impact on social media.

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            November 3, 2022 11:56 AM

            Maybe on the pure infrastructure side but they'd need to have built for that

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            November 3, 2022 7:30 PM

            You need about double the employees Twitter currently has to do effective content moderation.

            But we never thought Elon cared about that, did we?

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      November 3, 2022 9:20 AM

      > Musk’s purchase of Twitter, and his immediate move to charge verified accounts $8/month poses a rather fundamental question.... Why the hell are any of us doing this?

      https://theline.substack.com/p/james-mcleods-twitter-reality-check?utm_source=shacknews&publication_id=70032&post_id=82335512&utm_medium=web

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        November 3, 2022 10:20 AM

        Don't ask me, I'm not on Twitter

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          November 3, 2022 1:44 PM

          So much this.

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          November 3, 2022 1:51 PM

          me neither, I've seen some twats here and there but mostly when I clicked on a link it wanted me to login so I say fuck that.

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          November 3, 2022 8:55 PM

          Same.

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        November 3, 2022 10:21 AM

        Agree with Stephen King, Musk should pay all blue checks to stay.

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          November 3, 2022 10:47 AM

          Only problem is that Elon just spent $44 billion to purchase so he's probably strapped for cash right now.

          Ultimately he's just either going to eventually shut down Twitter or find some other way to monetize that works.

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      November 3, 2022 10:42 AM

      lets go team blue check?

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      November 3, 2022 10:45 AM

      He should include 2 years of free blue check in their severance.

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      November 3, 2022 10:47 AM

      I wonder if we'll start to see internal sabotage of the platform in protest.

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      November 3, 2022 10:57 AM

      I'm pretty sure once it became clear he couldn't get out of the deal he just said "Fuck it, I'm going to buy it and run it into the ground and then invest a ton of money in whatever my buddy Jack is building next."

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        November 3, 2022 5:28 PM

        He had to borrow a shitton of money to pay for Twitter, intentionally running it into the ground seems like a very bad idea. Like, he could lose control of Tesla if Twitter crashes.

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      November 3, 2022 11:00 AM

      Elon will fire hundreds or thousands of people, then he will pretend he can't hire replacements without looking overseas for cheaper talent. The platform will be riddled with back doors (just what every authoritarian government on Earth wants) and no one's information will be safe.

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        November 3, 2022 4:32 PM

        You're saying it was safe before?

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        November 3, 2022 5:27 PM

        Might want to read Mudge's reports on their security issues.

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      November 3, 2022 11:05 AM

      Kinda thinking he's one of those "employee salaries are our biggest expense" kind of managers.

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        November 3, 2022 11:24 AM

        acanis went on to argue that Twitter could meet the standards of its Big Tech peers, at least in terms of revenue per employee, if it dramatically cut staff.

        In a “back of the envelope” calculation, he said Twitter’s revenue per employee was just $625,000 in 2021, compared to $1.9 million per employee for Google and $2.37 million per employee for Apple—but if Musk were to cut 5,000 of Twitter’s 8,000 workers, he could increase Twitter’s revenue per employee to a “more industry standard” $1.66 million.

        “Insane potential for improvement,” Musk responded after emphasizing Calacanis’s text.

        Then Calacanis proposed using a return-to-office mandate to get rid of some of Twitter’s staff without having to pay the typical exit packages. Twitter’s previous CEO, Jack Dorsey, implemented a “forever” remote-work policy in 2020 that allows Twitter employees to work wherever they are most productive.

        “2 day a week office requirement = 20% voluntary departures,” Calacanis wrote. “Day zero…sharpen your blades boys.”

        The two then decided maybe it wasn’t the best idea to discuss slashing Twitter’s staff using Twitter direct messages.

        “Maybe we don’t talk Twitter on Twitter,” Calacanis wrote.

        “Was just thinking that haha,” Musk replied, adding that “nothing said there so far is anything different from what I said publicly.”


        https://fortune.com/2022/10/06/elon-musk-jason-calacanis-return-to-office-gentlemens-layoffs-twitter/

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      November 3, 2022 11:24 AM

      Stop. Using. Twitter.

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        November 3, 2022 11:39 AM

        Is this the new "Fuck Facebook"?

        I'm on board. My only regret is I can't watch the wreckage up close.

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        November 3, 2022 11:44 AM

        Stop. Buying. Teslas.

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          November 3, 2022 11:55 AM

          I wish Tesla had more competition. I mean, there's some competition but I wish it had more.

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            November 3, 2022 11:59 AM

            I'm guessing you don't watch any sports. Otherwise you would see every major car manufacturer advertising their new electrical car(s).

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              November 3, 2022 12:00 PM

              You're right, I don't watch much sports.

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              November 3, 2022 10:17 PM

              Yeah... sure would be nice if you could actually buy one.

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            November 3, 2022 1:02 PM

            they have massive amounts of competition in everything but their charging network. that is still #1 by far. but they had a long head start. 5 years from now that will be different.

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              November 3, 2022 1:11 PM

              Can the competitors not use the charging network?

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                November 3, 2022 1:14 PM

                lots of people got lifetime charging when they bought their teslas. not even tesla offers that any more.

                not sure if someone with a ford lightning can just pull up and charge at a tesla charging center. besides paying, are their different charger connections? don't know.

                Mercedes and bmw and lexus and volvo will all have 5 or 6 electronic options in the next couple years. and I don't know what the lower cost brands are at.

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                November 3, 2022 2:11 PM

                For fast charging? No. Tesla uses a proprietary fast charge (supercharger) connector and communicates with the car to authenticate if you are allowed to. These stations are supposed to be converted to allow other car brands on a standard CCE connector to use them at some point but I haven't heard about this recently.

                The Tesla branded slow chargers or "destination chargers" also are proprietary but there are converters you can buy aftermarket to plug into a car with a standard type 2 connector.

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                  November 3, 2022 2:24 PM

                  "Tesla uses a proprietary fast charge (supercharger) connector"

                  I'm not surprised at this development. I suspected this was the truth but I wasn't sure how much it was enforced on every charger.

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                    November 3, 2022 2:28 PM

                    To be fair, they were trail blazing this stuff before a standard was determined. And rather than pay Tesla for a license to use their connector design, the rest of the industry formed an alliance and came up with a separate standard. Tesla is now coming around to it. I was surprised the Model S didn't go CCS. I wonder if they will stick with it.

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                      November 3, 2022 2:31 PM

                      Is there a technical difference between Tesla's charging and CSS or whatever standard for charging? Does one charge faster than the other or anything else from a technical point of view?

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                        November 3, 2022 2:50 PM

                        No, it's just how the pins are aligned. You can buy a CCS converter for the Tesla charge port so they can use non-Tesla fast chargers for example.

                        It's because of how the fast chargers authenticate with the car that prevents an adapter with another brand working with it.

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              November 3, 2022 1:12 PM

              I mean, can the competitors not use Telsa's charging network for some reason?

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                November 3, 2022 1:23 PM

                It’s coming but not enabled yet as far as I’m aware

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              November 3, 2022 2:56 PM

              Disagree completely. Competition is clueless with manufacturing EVs on global scale with Tesla like margins. They’ll never be able to adopt the agile mentality to continuously improve and reduce/improve efficiency, just like they’re doing with Idra stamp presses. Tesla just outdid Toyota on Q3 profit (how is everyone ignoring this?). I seriously think Shack completely misunderstands the business case with Tesla. Elon dumb durrrrr shouldn’t blind people on finances.

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              November 3, 2022 9:04 PM

              I don't consider them to have real competition for trucks yet. Yes I'm aware they haven't released one. I'm going off of plans/reported specs.

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                November 3, 2022 10:19 PM

                rivan is way ahead of tesla in trucks and ford is next. I have rode in both and they are great trucks.

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                  November 3, 2022 11:05 PM

                  5.5' beds don't cut it for me. 6.5 is as low as I'll go...

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        November 3, 2022 11:52 AM

        Never.Fucking.Did

        :D

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        November 3, 2022 12:03 PM

        If you simply use Twitter and don't pay for any extra bullshit they try to sell you...aren't you technically losing Elon Musk money?

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          November 3, 2022 12:07 PM

          Twitter has ads, right?

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            November 3, 2022 12:10 PM

            Ads along don't generate enough money for him to even break even. But ads do help Elon lose less money.

            He should rename Twitter to "Elon's rants" or something lol

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            November 3, 2022 12:10 PM

            Yeah but I thought the company perpetually loses money, hence Elon's $8 a month scheme

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              November 3, 2022 12:27 PM

              and firing 50% of the staff.

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            November 3, 2022 12:57 PM

            Not if you use tweetdeck.twitter.com.

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          November 3, 2022 1:40 PM

          You’re still engaging with the platform

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          November 3, 2022 5:30 PM

          Probably not. There should be a pretty good return on even unpopular users in terms of data brokerage

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        November 3, 2022 12:43 PM

        It's gonna be so fun to watch that thing burn. Hope it dies a quick death.

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          November 3, 2022 12:46 PM

          Oh, I hope it drags on forever and fucks Musk over. I can't stand him.

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        November 3, 2022 10:45 PM

        Exactly, it's trash, nothing will be lost if it dies.

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        November 3, 2022 11:51 AM

        i’m sorry, do companies still do this? an extra day off every month on top of regular vacation time, just to deal with pandemic trauma?

        of all the things he has discussed this seems boring and reasonable

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          November 3, 2022 11:55 AM

          yeah I agree, this seems like a nothingburger.

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        November 3, 2022 2:30 PM

        damn bro, I gotta talk to my employer about Days of Rest

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      November 3, 2022 11:54 AM

      Wonder when they'll have their first major outage. a week? two weeks?

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        November 3, 2022 11:56 AM

        probably like a month.. previous staff were likely pretty talented and built stuff that will run fairly well until some new, outsourced contractor starts adding stuff to "improve efficiency"

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      November 3, 2022 12:02 PM

      How to kill a company in 10 days

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      November 3, 2022 12:03 PM

      So deleting the account requires you to log in, deactivate your account and it will delete eventually.

      I made an account that I never use other than with twidere to read other peoples linked tweets.

      Removed that shit from the app. Trying to log in with the mail used to make the account... Nothing. Trying to get the password for the mail. Nope. Basically twitter is ghosting me lol. Last time that happened was when yahoo was hacked and they basically locked account deletion and mail forwarding to stop the ship from sinking.

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      November 3, 2022 1:07 PM

      Sorry if this has been said but…maybe he’s doing this on purpose? Maybe he actually wants twitter gone? Wouldn’t that be lovely? Just wishful thinking.

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        November 3, 2022 1:09 PM

        I don't think there's any doubt in his head that what he's doing will save twitter

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        November 3, 2022 2:46 PM

        So he intentionally lit $44 billion dollars on fire, a chunk of which was his own money? It's possible, but I don't believe it.... I'm pretty sure he thinks he knows how to save Twitter.

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          November 3, 2022 2:57 PM

          I was half joking, half hoping. I know that’s not the case but one can dream.

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          November 3, 2022 7:33 PM

          I think he was trolling and committing his usual SEC violating pump n dumps when the music stopped. He fucked around and found out.

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      November 3, 2022 1:27 PM

      good & i hope whole platform evaporates

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        November 3, 2022 1:28 PM

        twitters literally among the toxic/worst things to happen to the internet

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          November 3, 2022 1:39 PM

          It's always been fascinating to me that there appears to be a critical mass regarding the size of a network (especially on the internet) where things just go to shit. I honestly wonder if it's a function of our ability to comprehend the size of an audience, or empathize with people remotely that we don't know or understand.

          I can give a shit about shack news. By the time things get to the size of Facebook or Twitter, it feels like it can't help but be a cesspool. I guess if we had better methods to moderate and curate the communication?

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            November 3, 2022 1:50 PM

            One thing I liked about Twitter was that you could tell a earthquake is in progress within seconds of it happening.

            Sure, you could get equipment and machines to do the same but Twitter gets more attention on the news.

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            November 3, 2022 1:58 PM

            it's phones. People can just toss any random/unexamined thought from the comfort of a thing in their pocket, while standing in line, while drunk at a bar, while driving. it's an evaluation-of-input problem

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              November 3, 2022 2:12 PM

              I used to think anonymity was the problem, but it totally isn't. That blew my mind.

              I agree that casual access and lack of forethought are a huge element. I still think there's a lot of challenge with empathy. We don't spend any real time thinking about how the folks on the receiving end would feel; especially in contrast to smaller communities, or in-person interactions.

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                November 3, 2022 2:25 PM

                Exactly. The website is laser tag for insults . If it went down permanently I would say it's worth celebrating

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            November 3, 2022 8:06 PM

            I think there's 2 main components to why social media platforms become shit once they get too big:

            1) Once social media companies go public, they have an obligation for both growth, and to a lesser degree, perceived profitability. They may have had great success pulling in whatever niche market they originally targeted, but once they've saturated that market, where do they go from there? There will be some expectation to have YOY growth in DAU, with some hope for that to be turned into profits. So instead of focusing on what made them successful, they have to start focusing on growth beyond what the product or platform was originally intended for, in addition to finding a way to make that growth turn into revenue. This eventually will come into contrast with that the users originally liked about the product or platform, whether it's ads or branching into new features. Rather than a focus on "how do we make this the best version of the thing we originally wanted it to be?" the focus becomes "how do we get more people to sign up and how do we monetize it?".

            2) Moderation doesn't scale. Once a social media network becomes big enough, couples with #1 where there's an incentive for more engagement, there's going to be contrasting motives between moderating spam/bots/misinformation versus whatever garners more clicks. Even if you had the best intentions to have good moderation, once you hit a certain amount of content, there's no possible way to moderate that content without spending way more money than the platform is capable of bringing in. Economics aside, it becomes a massive task just to moderate the shear volume of content coming across your platform, but once you mix in trying to balance engagement with the cost of moderation, we all know which side is going to win out.

            Ultimately, I don't think it's a bad thing for these networks to run their course and expire when the next big thing takes over. The problem is that with the big push on mergers and acquisitions, there's less and less opportunity for the next big thing to take off before they get gobbled up by the big dogs in tech. I don't know that we'll ever see another Twitter, because once something gets any traction, one of the big players is going to buy them out and try to integrate them into their existing growth/engagement/monetization strategy and likely kill off what little momentum the platform had. It's unfortunate.

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          November 3, 2022 2:07 PM

          It's also one of the best things to happen for artists, journos and many other people.

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          November 3, 2022 2:07 PM

          if you think twitter is worse than reddit, 4chan, and 8chan, wow.

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            November 3, 2022 2:20 PM

            It is the worlds "town hall" and its toxic, reddit,4chan,8chan do not have the worlds eyeballs on them

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              November 3, 2022 2:24 PM

              reddit is/was approximately as ambitious as twitter, it just failed at it (so far) because it's too fucking nerdy and disproportionately catered to weirdos

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            November 3, 2022 2:22 PM

            It is a million times worse than reddit. Reddit has actual moderation.

            And lol if you think chans have the same reach as twitter

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              November 3, 2022 3:30 PM

              The chans are arguably worse because they stealth Nazi-fied peoples' uncles via shit like Qanon.

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          November 3, 2022 2:32 PM

          Facebook is worse, but Twitter is second worst. I won't be sorry to see it go... the quality content that's on there will find some other place & way to shine.

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          November 3, 2022 2:36 PM

          can't you just set it up to just follow only things you like?

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          November 3, 2022 2:41 PM

          facebook is the worst

          i put instagram second, for spreading influencer and selfie culture and stupid trends like fucking wildfire (i.e. gender reveals, various 'challenges' like the tide pod shit) and creating this entirely fictive reality-through-media that makes people feel shitty about what they're doing or not doing

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          November 3, 2022 3:28 PM

          Hard disagreement from me. Twitter can be awful, but Facebook, 4chan, and reddit have it beat easily. Twitter was its best as a finger on the pulse of the world.

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          November 3, 2022 8:32 PM

          It says a lot that I have a block list in the hundreds of thousands to make it bearable.

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      November 3, 2022 2:35 PM

      Around the time the original Kindle released with free OTA cellular for downloads, I remember saving up to buy a handheld Twitter gadget that allowed you to tweet without a cell phone and without a monthly fee. By the time I saved up enough money to buy the device, the company folded. I was super bummed about that.

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        November 3, 2022 2:42 PM

        I wonder how that was funded or planned to be funded. Bandwidth is expensive.

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      November 3, 2022 2:36 PM

      Weren't we recently clowning on Twitter for having 7000 employees and not much to show for it? When did they all become essential?

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        November 3, 2022 2:39 PM

        Yeah I don’t work in tech but I am amazed that they have that many people on staff.

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          November 3, 2022 2:48 PM

          Back when the rumor was 75% reduction:

          I’ve had a few friends and sources inside Twitter over the years, and I’ve long heard that Twitter is vastly overstaffed. There’s just no reason for Twitter to have so many employees given the scope of what they offer today. And it’s ossifying for a company culture to carry a lot of dead weight.

          https://daringfireball.net/linked/2022/10/21/twitter-musk-wapo-layoffs

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          November 3, 2022 8:23 PM

          There is no way they need that many.

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      November 3, 2022 3:13 PM

      Since blue checks are essentially going to become cosmetic flair, not unlike lightning bolts used to be on this site, only the most hard-core Twitter super fans are going to get. The functional side of it - verification, is still a very necessary piece of functionality to create trust in the platform. I wonder how that will be handled considering the fact that the presence of bots was such a driving factor in his decision to acquire. 

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      November 3, 2022 3:15 PM

      double digit % layoffs at stripe and lyft too

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      November 3, 2022 3:43 PM

      #TrumpIsDead trending on Twitter after Tim Heidecker hijinx.

      https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/why-is-trump-is-dead-trending-twitter-misinformation-tim-heidecker-b1036996.html

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      November 3, 2022 4:22 PM

      Its so funny how he's haranguing bigtime accounts that bring in incredible amounts eyeball views to ads and engagement over eight bucks lol

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        November 3, 2022 4:23 PM

        This would be like IG, TikTok, or Twitch going after their most popular accounts over the cost of a Starbucks instead of paying them $$$$$

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          November 3, 2022 5:24 PM

          other socials literally trying to figure out how many millions to pay influencers to boost their network's attraction while Elon attempts to charge them $8/mo to avoid being impersonated by trolls

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        November 3, 2022 7:50 PM

        Heard from a friend there they are closing the office tomorrow out of an abundance of caution for employee safety. Even if you don’t get fired you won’t be able to badge in. Must be expecting a lot of angry people.

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      November 3, 2022 8:51 PM

      AKA “the lucky ones”

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