Cursed by Osiris, Bungie Cancels Destiny 2 Live Stream Amid Community Outrage

May Anubis weigh their hearts justly. 

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Bungie was supposed to have their third and final Curse of Osiris stream this week, a mere seven days out from the launch of the somewhat anticipated first DLC for Destiny 2, but after the recent controversies, the unusually silent developer has decided to cancel the Twitch stream. In its place will be a blog post where “studio leadership” will have an opportunity to talk about the state of the game.

This came to light after Community Manager, David “DeeJ” Dague, posted on the Bungie.net community forums with a straightforward announcement:


Tomorrow, we had planned to conduct the final stream prior to the launch of “Curse of Osiris” to show off some of the weapons and armor the expansion includes. Instead, we are investing all our efforts into delivering some higher priority information about Destiny 2. You’ll hear from studio leadership about their assessment of Destiny all up, they’ll talk about our goals for the game going forward, and you’ll also learn about how we’re reacting to your feedback with some game updates that will arrive in the next few weeks.

That will appear on the Bungie Blog on Wednesday.


For those who might not be up to speed with what’s happening in the wild world of Destiny 2, it recently came to light that the amount of XP the game said players were earning wasn’t exactly correct, in fact it was way off. Though this is a relatively tame problem on the surface, the outrage stemmed from the fact Destiny 2 has its own version of microtransactions – the hot button issue of 2017. Players can either gather XP and receive a Bright Engram (Destiny 2’s loot crate, albeit with no major game-affecting boosters à la Star Wars Battlefront 2) or pay real money to receive one instead.

As it turns out, Destiny 2 was purposefully throttling the amount of experience players were earning when earned in vast quantities – essentially making it take longer for them to receive Bright Engrams. This has obviously been perceived as a means to funnel people to spend money on Bright Engrams. Cue the justified outrage. The throttling has since been removed, but the amount of XP needed to earn a Bright Engram has been doubled. Yay?

All of this has left a bad taste in the mouth of hardcore and casual players alike, and when coupled with the almost three months of zero game balancing (in the form of weapon and subclass nerfs and buffs), the community is at a boiling point.

A cursory glance at the DestinyTheGame subreddit might have you perceive it as a salt mine, but there are a lot of dedicated players there who want nothing more than for Destiny 2 to return to the glory that Age of Triumph captured in the original title. The news that the Curse of Osiris stream has been cancelled is generally seen as Bungie taking the community concerns and complaints seriously.

There is a lot of cautious optimism in the air at the moment, but it’s a fragile thing and its future depends on what the studio leads have to say about the game and the direction they plan to take. If the perceived underlying problems of Destiny 2 aren’t addressed, then there’s a good chance the community will be just as outraged as they are now. And rightly so.

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    November 28, 2017 8:02 PM

    Sam Chandler posted a new article, Cursed by Osiris, Bungie Cancels Destiny 2 Live Stream Amid Community Outrage

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      November 28, 2017 10:00 PM

      Yikes!

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      November 29, 2017 4:21 AM

      I made some poor choices when buying games with season passes this year. :/

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        November 29, 2017 5:20 AM

        Could you elaborate?

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          November 29, 2017 6:06 AM

          I bought a bunch of games this year, but out of them I bought Destiny 2 and Shadow of War bundled with their season passes thinking we'd get our money's worth out of them.

          Destiny 2's community has been a loud mess about how progression's busted.

          I got tired of SoW before finishing the base game (though I did power through to the not-insane ending). I don't need more of that game.

          At this point, I don't feel like I should have paid $99 for either of those games.

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            November 29, 2017 6:40 AM

            Crap. That stinks. I bought the base game then the expansion pack after the fact just in case I wouldn't dig on the game. :(

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            November 29, 2017 6:46 AM

            I thought you played Destiny 2 with lil Timmy? How does that work, btw? Does Destiny 2 support split-screen Crucible or something? Or do you have to have two copies, two consoles, two tvs, etc?

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              November 29, 2017 6:47 AM

              Two consoles, one digital copy.

              His Xbox One is my home system. My Xbox One is his home system.

              He has access to my library because he's on my home system. I have access to my library because I'm logged into my Xbox Live account.

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                November 29, 2017 7:21 AM

                ha! clever

                it doesn’t let you do that with PS4 :(

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                  November 29, 2017 7:43 AM

                  Yeah they do. We're doing it with PS4 too.

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                November 29, 2017 8:27 AM

                Huh. So you both played through the whole game together in this manner?

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                  November 29, 2017 8:28 AM

                  We didn’t play from start to finish together, but we often hop on together to do stuff.

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                    November 29, 2017 8:39 AM

                    That doesn't sound too bad I guess if you're expecting a Resident Evil 5 like experience, ie good gunplay against a forgettable story. RE5 is not "great" but in the right conditions it can be fun at least.

                    Why so disappointed though? Did you have higher expectations or something?

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                      November 29, 2017 8:41 AM

                      I’m not personally disappointed by Destiny 2 — I think it’s fun — but if Bungie is doing dumb things to make the community angry, probably not the best game to get. All I’m saying. :)

                      I played the single player stuff, and continued to play for a couple weeks until the winter deluge of games started, and I’ll go back probably again once things slow down. It’s a fun shooter.

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                        November 29, 2017 8:57 AM

                        the community for Destiny is perpetually unhappy. I say this as a person who has played way too much of both games. The scale of anger is either 1-3 or 10.
                        They want minute by minute updates of what's happening.

                        Literally a month ago Bungie outlined the things they're working on implementing in a weekly Thursday update. A few days later the community was angry again.
                        And it always takes the form of Bungie detailing what they're doing and people calling for their heads by Monday morning next week.

                        They look back at Destiny 1 now as if it was a wholly great experience, but they were also angry the entire time they were playing that.

                        End of the day, the game is fun. There are some issues. Bungie could say a little more, but they've been hung by the community for saying one thing and then deciding to go a different way before.

                        From what I've seen, the people who complain still play quite regularly.

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        November 29, 2017 6:32 AM

        Blizzard refunded mine even though I purchased it over a month ago. I'll pick it up in the future depending on what they come out with and if I dig it. Fucking blizzard support is the best! Opened a request saying I was un happy with how they were handling the situation and the transparency with it.

        GM responded with "There's a lot of strong opinions out there for sure on this. But I know the game isn't going to hit everyone's fun radar. I haven't really even played much myself, being playing PUBG too much. xD"

        Fucking love you blizzard and I'll keep buying all your shit!

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        November 29, 2017 8:43 AM

        I never ever buy DLC unless I plan to play them right after purchasing them. They are rarely worth it and I'd rather just get another game instead. Especially for the price they ask for it now.

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      November 29, 2017 4:38 AM

      Is there a Shacker defending this one? This was clearly a scummy move from Bungie.

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        November 29, 2017 5:21 AM

        No, but at the same time I also don't care enough to be mad about it. It's all stupid.

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          November 29, 2017 5:31 AM

          Here's what I will say about Destiny 2:

          - Destiny 2 is a fun game at its core. The shooty-shoot feels good, and the raids are fun.

          - Destiny 2 remains a half-step between a simple multiplayer game, a "game-as-a-service", a full fledged MMO. It appeases none of those crowds in the ways it should.

          - Destiny 2 has broken gear progression and leveling curves.

          - Destiny 2 has a lot of bad content. It's actually kind of astonishing how ho-hum of a game they managed to make.

          - Despite all their talk pre-launch about working on 'social' within the game, it is threadbare. Whomever was in charge of that initiative failed miserably.

          - Destiny 2 relies heavily on the enjoyment of you having friends to play with. It leans so heavily on this fact, that if you are a solo player I would almost say it's not worth your time.

          - Bungie still makes awesome skyboxes.

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            November 29, 2017 5:36 AM

            As shitty as the community around the game has been I'd say not having to see more of it in game is a positive. The best thing about the PC version is that I don't get a notification when somebody tells me kill myself.

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            November 29, 2017 6:06 AM

            Solo Destiny 2 fucking sucks. Once the story is over the multiplayer is complete garbage if you don’t have hardcore friends. Casual players will have a very tough time with the raid.

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              November 29, 2017 6:14 AM

              Pretty much agree with this. :(

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              November 29, 2017 6:43 AM

              Disagree. I’ve had to play solo for a while because of my schedule and I can very easily find a group on one of the many group finder sites and clear the raid in an hour-ish. It’s not bad (other than easy group finding not being built into the game. Guided games take too long to queue.)

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            November 29, 2017 6:19 AM

            I agree with all of this, even though I'm still playing. At least the weekly Milestones can be cleared in an evening.

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            November 29, 2017 8:01 AM

            I like solo Destiny 2, actually.

            I just do not give a shit about the progression at all.

            I play Destiny 2 and Warframe similarly. Essentially, I don't care about the milestones/achievements/normal progression. I just like the feeling of combat in both these games.

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            November 29, 2017 9:18 AM

            I think you summed it up quite well. I had a fun time with it but I didn't expect it to be playing it for months on end.

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        November 29, 2017 6:38 AM

        I don’t think it’s a huge deal. The loot boxes have zero impact on the actual game.

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          November 29, 2017 6:44 AM

          You're not wrong, their primary function is for cosmetic items. The problem is the mechanics in place to lure players into purchasing items.

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            November 29, 2017 6:50 AM

            And yes, that’s a problem. They dealt with it. But I’d be hard pressed to want to spend money on some emotes. I know people have dumped money into silver for bright engrams, but for what?
            Emotes at fine, but not close to necessary.
            Ships and sparrows are near useless past what you get just playing the game.
            Ornaments can be purchased pretty easily from bright dust you get. Everything else is dirt cheap bright dust cost wise.

            Bottom line, I got a ton of these things just playing the game and I still have about 4K bright dust. No purchase necessary.

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              November 29, 2017 6:53 AM

              Absolutely, but your experience isn't the same as someone else's, and your fiscal responsibility isn't matched by others either. Unfortunately, there are those who are lulled into purchasing items using real money, all because Bungie twisted the numbers.

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                November 29, 2017 7:02 AM

                Ok but numbers mean next to nothing. It’s a progress bar on the bottom of the screen. I get what was going on, but it’s not something that was ever really pulling my game time forward. I realize others may feel different, but even still... you’re either the type of person who has the motivation and money to spend on cosmetics or not.

                This is just the latest thing the shitty community has latched onto to complain about.

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            November 29, 2017 6:54 AM

            What mechanics are those? Outside of the three free engrams to give you a taste I don't recall anything that even leads you back to the vendor other than a throbbing icon on the map.

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              November 29, 2017 6:57 AM

              Slower xp gain. I think it’s a weak pull for people to want to spend real money.
              Either you planned on spending money or didn’t. Not getting a bright engram every few hours isn’t going to make someone spend real dollars.

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                November 29, 2017 7:07 AM

                I guess I just don't see how getting free stuff just for playing the easiest parts of the game is supposed trick people into spending money. The worst part of this is that people that can't play for hours straight are the ones getting screwed over.

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                  November 29, 2017 7:15 AM

                  I agree. I think the whole thing is just the latest of the dumb controversy the community latches onto.

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      November 29, 2017 7:07 AM

      Battlefield 2 got all the dramatic news very quickly but Destiny 2's community reckoning seems near. It's been simmering for months.

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        November 29, 2017 7:16 AM

        Except battlefront 2 actually has an effect on the gameplay. Destiny 2 is all cosmetic and mostly useless.

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      November 29, 2017 8:10 AM

      Meh. I love this game and it needs to be fixed, but the community outrage is pretty much a bunch of babies.

      Again, shit needs to be fixed, there are problems with the game and it is absolutely up to Bungie to make things better and to calm the storm, but this community has gone batshit.

      Look at this.

      The Destiny subreddit is treating today's dev blog post like the rapture.

      https://twitter.com/MattPascual/status/935878592197726209/photo/1

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      November 29, 2017 9:00 AM

      I just read the article, they gave you less less xp than the game said you were earning if you were leveling up too fast since they wanted to entice people to pay real money for items instead of getting it with xp.

      That is seriously fucked up.

      It's even worse now. When people discovered this, bungie removed the xp throttle but they DOUBLED the amount needed for said items fucking up casual players instead if hardcore player.

      They deserve the shit storm they will get. This is unacceptable. It's just as bad as battlefront and as the diablo 3 auction house.

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        November 29, 2017 9:08 AM

        Battlefront and D3 altered the actual game. They created power imbalances.

        This was just to slow people down on getting some emotes. It's all cosmetic. Literally nothing that changes gameplay. It was a mistake, but it's not that big a deal.

        You're still able to get your free bright engrams from playing.

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          November 29, 2017 9:14 AM

          Even if it's just cosmetics, it's part of the game. Why didn't they implement a visual daily limit on xp like many other games do instead of hiding it on purpose? It's downright insulting.

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            November 29, 2017 9:24 AM

            There is a progress bar that fills as you play. You’re seeing the bar move. For most people that’s all that they care about.

            I don’t know anybody that was playing the grind bright engrams. They’re more of an extra bonus for doing the fun parts of the game.

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          November 29, 2017 9:24 AM

          Weapon and armor mods come in the bright engrams so its not all cosmetic. That being said its mostly cosmetic.

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            November 29, 2017 9:26 AM

            Yes but you can buy mods once you’re 280+ it’s not changing the end game at all. Don’t think I’ve ever seen any legendary mods drop from bright engrams.

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              November 29, 2017 9:29 AM

              I got some good mods out of bright engrams. Even though my bank was completely full of mods I still found myself needing a lot more.

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                November 29, 2017 9:30 AM

                I guess what I’m getting at is that nobody is grinding bright engrams for mods.

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            November 29, 2017 9:35 AM

            Nobody cares about the mods part, since you end up spending glimmer to get them which you get an excess amount of anyway just from killing enemies.

            If they weren’t cheaply bought with glimmer then I would say there is something to be said.

            This is a total non-issue and has zero positive effect on the “gameplay advantage” value of the loot pool for Bright Engrams, which is what the real debut is about.

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              November 29, 2017 9:38 AM

              It’s not a huge deal but I still needed a ton of mods when I stopped playing. My bank was full with mods but they weren’t the ones I wanted and they weren’t purple.

              I don’t think that it’s a huge deal but it matters.