World of WarCraft Classic Servers Will Bring Vanilla Flavor to Players

Blizzard is hard at work on a classic server option for WOW.

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Near the end of the BlizzCon 2017 opening ceremony, Blizzard shocked the world with the announcement of development starting for the vanilla World of Warcraft server option.

The upcoming option will get as close to the original code as possible for the vanilla World of Warcraft experience but, without any of the pitfalls.

Details for the classic server option will be made available in the near future.

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    November 3, 2017 12:06 PM

    Charles Singletary posted a new article, Blizzard Announces Vanilla World of Warcraft

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      November 3, 2017 12:08 PM

      This has peaked my interest.

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      November 3, 2017 12:10 PM

      Holy shit...

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      November 3, 2017 12:12 PM

      I can already hear the whining about balance, grind, and how they totally got X and Y wrong.

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      November 3, 2017 12:13 PM

      holy ... shit...

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      November 3, 2017 12:14 PM

      This could be fucking awesome!

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      November 3, 2017 12:15 PM

      Here's Blizzards play on trying to take down the private server market which generates millions of dollars but not for Blizz.

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        November 3, 2017 12:19 PM

        Yep. Its also really easy to set up a personal server for a few friends and play with bots as well. Works really well.

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        November 3, 2017 12:22 PM

        As they should.

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          November 3, 2017 10:28 PM

          Absolutely but this is a big turnaround for a company that explicity said absolutely not that they'd never do this and that it wasn't technically possible, etc.

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        November 3, 2017 2:38 PM

        This is blizzard answering fan demand. Of course they should make the money on their own property.

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        November 3, 2017 9:22 PM

        Haven’t played wow in 10 years. How are people making money on private servers?

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          November 3, 2017 10:27 PM

          They pay money for items in game or levels. I've spent like $20 on a private server and it bought me tokens you can trade in for various things. Mostly I just paid the $20 to get the characters to level 70 so I didn't have to grind for a week or so. It's much easier to do it that way, imo.

          It's a pretty big business. This is all on an emulated server on a specific expansion pack (depends on the server/site) and they allow for weird settings like alliance/horde cross play/raiding/grouping/chat, etc.

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      November 3, 2017 12:16 PM

      Pretty excited for this. BC might be cool though.

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        November 3, 2017 12:38 PM

        Agreed. BC fixed a lot of problems with vanilla and offered more reasonably sized (read: not 40-man) content.

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      November 3, 2017 12:19 PM

      Whoa. I have interest but not sure I would pay a monthly subscription for it.

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        November 3, 2017 12:27 PM

        Same. I wonder if they would do free to play. Would probably ruin the game with microtranactions everywhere though.

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          November 3, 2017 11:29 PM

          The game has been free to play up to like level 20 for a long time now.

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      November 3, 2017 12:20 PM

      What. The. Fuck. JESUS CHRIST I THOUGHT I GOT AWAY!

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      November 3, 2017 12:21 PM

      What a world we live in where this is the "big announcement from Blizzard" that gets everyone excited.

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      November 3, 2017 12:32 PM

      I'll finally be able to get back into playing warlocks as they were originally designed?

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      November 3, 2017 12:43 PM

      The nostalgia is so strong, yet so hilariously misplaced. So many people are going to start this up and realize how shit it is to actually play.

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        November 3, 2017 12:51 PM

        I do wonder how much quality of life stuff they’ll add. I’m sure they’re aware of that careful balance. Or maybe they’ll just throw in paid lvl 60 boosts and mounts.

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        November 3, 2017 12:54 PM

        Well, I think the point is to cater to the huge amounts of folks playing on private servers. The lead designer acknowledges there will be a hefty amount of "tourists", but they want to cater to that hardcore crowd that plays privately. Pretty cool I think!

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        November 3, 2017 1:05 PM

        if they don't keep the dungeons nerfed they will

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        November 3, 2017 2:37 PM

        Fucking INF

        I can't wait for it.

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          November 3, 2017 4:09 PM

          Don't you want to sit in Molten Core with Bort lost needing a summon again?

      • Zek
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        November 3, 2017 4:10 PM

        We don't know yet how faithful it's going to be. If they really are just spinning up a raw vanilla server, say with everything up until the launch of BC, people are going to bounce off pretty quick.

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        November 3, 2017 5:00 PM

        Vanilla barrens chat... does this content also come with a stream of unending chuck norris jokes?

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        November 3, 2017 5:52 PM

        Many have had fun with broken "blizzlike" vanilla servers - there is a market.

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        November 3, 2017 7:44 PM

        Depends on how much they revert, like qol and class balance

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        November 4, 2017 12:45 AM

        TORCHES!

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      November 3, 2017 12:51 PM

      The idea behind this is sweet but then you start playing and realize you are too casual and not ready for that shiz again.

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        November 3, 2017 1:01 PM

        or maybe you realize what made the original tick.. adventuring in a world for weeks and slowly making progress. Instead of WHAM lvl 150 --> endgame version 1 of 20 patches

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          November 3, 2017 1:18 PM

          Yep. Questing and Exploring was always my favorite part.

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          November 3, 2017 2:59 PM

          We also had more time then. We’re older now,families, kids. I ain’t got time for 8 hour molten core with respawning trash

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      November 3, 2017 12:55 PM

      People will quit when they realize it took 10+ days (240 hours) to level to 60 back then.

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        November 3, 2017 1:04 PM

        Ugh. Never again. Those last few levels suuuucked too, I ran out of quests and did mob grinding. ><

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          November 3, 2017 1:24 PM

          Yeah grinding those cemeteries as a paladin in the PLands for like 2 whole levels was something else.

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        November 3, 2017 1:06 PM

        I made it as far as 46, I think.

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        November 3, 2017 1:27 PM

        10 days /played is generous.

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      November 3, 2017 12:58 PM

      ohhh my

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      November 3, 2017 1:09 PM

      they just announced on the panel that leveling in WoW now scales to your level, you can quest through the expansions in any order. this is coming in a future patch, not the expansion

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        November 3, 2017 1:19 PM

        Interesting. So no more elite quests.

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        November 3, 2017 1:36 PM

        That's neat. Do they have something similar for dungeons? Scaling enemies and loot?

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          November 3, 2017 2:40 PM

          Prior to Heroic/Mythic mode, those exist now, for the levelling experience. If you queue for a normal dungeon, you will end up with 101s, 107s and 110s, and the damage is normalized.

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        November 3, 2017 1:38 PM

        This is awesome, I always hated having to bail on a zone halfway through since you out leveled it so fast.

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        November 3, 2017 2:06 PM

        Yeah and there are scaling caps so you can still go back to old zones and feel powerful.

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        November 3, 2017 2:53 PM

        Oh wow, really? That's kinda amazing. That should make the whole leveling so much more fun.

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        November 3, 2017 3:59 PM

        vanilla zones still have a 10 level scaling tech so you cna't go right to silithus or plaguelands

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          November 3, 2017 4:06 PM

          But I could do what South Park did and kill board til level 60 in elwynn forest.

      • Zek
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        November 3, 2017 4:19 PM

        That's really great news. I wish they would focus more resources on older content, I care more about that than I care about new continents and increased level cap. Cataclysm was the most exciting expansion they ever did for me. If I had my way they'd take a page from GW2's book and radically redesign the leveling system. WoW has such a ludicrous amount of content that goes unused.

        • Zek
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          November 3, 2017 4:29 PM

          Sounds like their focus is more on allowing people to skip expansions/zones while leveling, so you can do 60-80 entirely in WotLK for example (but it won't scale past 80). That's a good change but still doesn't really give level capped players anything new to do.

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      November 3, 2017 1:21 PM

      Brack is clear that using modern server architecture doesn’t mean that these Classic servers will have the same features that current World of Warcraft does. There won’t be cross-realm servers or Looking For Raid and Dungeon Finder automatic party matchmaking.

      http://www.pcgamer.com/this-is-how-blizzard-plans-to-finally-bring-back-vanilla-wow-servers/

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        November 3, 2017 4:16 PM

        Good. Dungeon browser totally ruined the sense of community .

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      November 3, 2017 1:22 PM

      RIP non healing druids shamans and paladins

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      November 3, 2017 1:24 PM

      Hunter has run out of arrows!

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      November 3, 2017 2:09 PM

      AWWWWW YEAH BITCHES!!! Sitting in MC40 man raid after taking 8 hours to fill it with no LFG tools. Setting up conga lines so that buff pallies could apply their 5m buff to people before sending them into the boss. Yeah this is gonna be epic! Nostalgia is a helluva thing.

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        November 3, 2017 2:35 PM

        are Warlocks going to have to pass out their cookies one at a time too? man so many little quality of life things we take for granted now. I've never played on a classic server so maybe that is part of the appeal but ugh.

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      November 3, 2017 2:21 PM

      Thank god its not BC or else Id be draining my life into this again. BC was one of my favorite times in gaming.

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        November 3, 2017 2:27 PM

        I liked Wrath a lot too

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        November 3, 2017 2:59 PM

        BC broke guilds that we’re staffed for 40 man raids. I hated BC just for that.

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        November 4, 2017 4:03 AM

        Me too. I still kinda want to do Sunwell properly. :(

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      November 3, 2017 2:37 PM

      (no sarcasm) This is literally the only way Blizzard could tempt me into getting into WoW. Bravo.

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      November 3, 2017 2:52 PM

      I'm gonna sub for a month for nostalgia before I remember how much of a grind old WoW could be.

      Back to Hunter ammo and lvl 40 mounts.

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      November 3, 2017 3:01 PM

      This seems like it will just cause population problems on existing servers. My realm is already fucking dead compared to what it used to be, and now it'll loose even more to a bunch of nostalgic neckbeards.

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      November 3, 2017 3:59 PM

      90% of people excited for this clearly don't remember what vanilla wow was like.

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        November 3, 2017 4:17 PM

        I do. It was hard and fucking tedious but the sense of community and progression was fucking awesome

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          November 3, 2017 4:49 PM

          Wow and Vanilla Wow has always been easy mode. Wow now days is easy mode with cheats.

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            November 3, 2017 4:53 PM

            BS. MC and Onxyia and AQ40 we fucking hard before they were nerfed down. The 4 horsemen in NAxx has folks running for months without kills.

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              November 3, 2017 5:29 PM

              Meh. Came from EQ. Shit was easy.

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                November 3, 2017 5:40 PM

                Meh, so did most guilds that were top ranked and they struggled with the same shit

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              November 3, 2017 5:57 PM

              LFM MC....MUST BE ATTUNED!

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                November 3, 2017 6:00 PM

                We had 65 guild members. No LFG shit!

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              November 3, 2017 9:57 PM

              Got your NR gear for Princess?

              Fuck.

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          November 3, 2017 5:29 PM

          How has WoW become easier over the years? I only played for the first 3 months of release.

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            November 3, 2017 5:49 PM

            Well I mean, you can get to level 10 in 30 minutes, no joke. Leveling up in vanilla was a HUGE accomplishment and now it means jack shit.

            It's really hard to die as well, and you can wipe out entire mobs just spamming the same button over and over again.

            QoL improvements like dungeon finder may seem nice at first, but there is no sense of community and people just shit talk since they know they'll likely never see you again. Certainly it was harder to find a group in chat, but you had to play nice and cooperate otherwise you'd get booted. Dungeons were harder too and involved strategy (even Deadmines!), now it's basically spamming the same button over and over while rushing through the content since it's so easy.

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            November 3, 2017 5:55 PM

            As far as I can tell, the gear checks for element resistant aren’t anything like they were back then. Remember c’thun and poision resist? Onxyia and fire resist and the ice dragon in naxx with frost resist. So much farming to get that shit.

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          November 4, 2017 1:34 AM

          Exactly, I played on one of the Vanilla WoW servers a couple of months ago and damn was it hard. Also, the grind to 60 was enormous. I think I made it to lvl40 or something before I lost interest.

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        November 3, 2017 4:56 PM

        I've played on several private vanilla WoW servers.

        This is awesome.

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        November 3, 2017 5:58 PM

        I loved vanilla / BC , I remember drooling over players with all the raid gear standing in iron forge, seeing people in raid gear showed they were good players, now you get end game gear by just logging into the game, its gone so casual its not even fun to play

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          November 3, 2017 6:52 PM

          I had the 2nd Perdition's Blade on my server.

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            November 3, 2017 7:00 PM

            I really hope you were a hunter.

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            November 3, 2017 9:16 PM

            I remember when I got benediction on my priest (prob 5-6th on server) Id stand out side the AH and show it off with pride, and I could see other badly gear priests stopping to check me out and asking how did i get that

    • Zek
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      November 3, 2017 4:15 PM

      I want to play vanilla WoW the way I remember it, not the way it actually was. At the minimum they should bring over all the gameplay/animation polish improvements, UI features, LFG, etc. I'd even go so far as to say keep most of the modern class design, I don't really need to play with old talent trees etc.

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      November 3, 2017 4:55 PM

      HOLY SHIT

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      November 3, 2017 4:56 PM

      Has Clay been alerted?

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        November 3, 2017 5:10 PM

        we should remake GCR and see if they repeat their mistakes!

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      November 3, 2017 5:05 PM

      Everyone making comments like "the nostalgia is so strong, yet so hilariously misplaced" is apparently oblivious to the fact that at any given time, hundreds of thousands of people are playing WoW illegally on Vanilla WoW servers precisely because they want that distinct experience.

      It may not be your cup of tea. That's fine. But the notion that others don't want that gameplay is inaccurate. Blizzard would be foolish not to capitalize on an obvious market.

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      November 3, 2017 5:05 PM

      Can’t wait to farm that Crusader enchant recipe again!

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        November 3, 2017 5:08 PM

        Or getting raknar his tank sword to put the enchant on

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      November 3, 2017 5:16 PM

      I just want to play it single player somehow. With pause, because I have more kids than I did the last time I played WoW. And a party system like Mass Effect or KOTOR so that I don’t have to deal with other people.

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        November 3, 2017 6:05 PM

        I agree with this 100%. Just want to roam.

      • Zek
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        November 3, 2017 6:46 PM

        I think dungeons with AI companions would be pretty boring, there are better games.

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        November 3, 2017 7:03 PM

        Look up "World of Warcraft single player project".

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        November 3, 2017 11:34 PM

        You kinda can if you set up your own server but since there's no one else it feels really empty and sad. Something about that game hinges on there just being people around even if you never interact with them.

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      November 3, 2017 7:06 PM

      i dont know about vanilla but if it brings back a bunch of old wow players it might be cool to login and reminisce

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      November 3, 2017 7:27 PM

      Great video on why people still want to play WoW vanilla

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxR3zK-unFU

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      November 3, 2017 7:45 PM

      Whoa what

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      November 3, 2017 8:33 PM

      World of Warcraft looks like shit, it plays like shit, and it's insanely boring. They need to come out with a new MMORPG. PLEASE.

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        November 4, 2017 1:52 AM

        I would love to see Blizzard make another MMO, but I'm not sure we ever will. Also, I think WoW still looks good today, due to the great artwork.

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          November 4, 2017 1:57 AM

          The newer stuff is pretty good. The original zones are pretty awful though. You’re right about the artwork helping it hold up over the years though.

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            November 4, 2017 5:36 AM

            Personally, I hated the new zones. It turned questing into a theme park where you just rushed from hub to hub, completely getting rid of the exploring aspect and the need to spontaneously group up/socialize with strangers to knock out a challenging quest.

            I also hated the forced pop references that ruined the feel of the game.

            Wrath pre-LFD is in my mind the peak of WoW, before a lot of these "quality of life" improvements sucked the soul out of the game and turned it in to "World of Interactive Menus".

            I really hope they also bring back servers hosting BC and WotLK as those seemed to strike the perfect balance and some of those zones were fucking amazing.

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      November 3, 2017 9:25 PM

      anyone remember this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0mY7GWKkTM