Xbox 360 has 'a lot more than two years' left, MS boss says

Although all signs point to a late 2013 launch for the next generation of consoles, Microsoft is attempting to downplay the impending new slate of video gaming hardware.

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Although all signs point to a late 2013 launch for the next generation of consoles, Microsoft is attempting to downplay the impending new slate of video gaming hardware. Given Xbox 360's growing momentum, Microsoft sees the platform staying around for quite some time. "Right now the Xbox 360 is really healthy and it's doing incredibly well. I think the 360 has a lot more than two years [left]," Microsoft Studios head Phil Spencer said. "It has legs for a long time." Given how successful Xbox 360 is, it's clear that Microsoft is in no hurry to rush this generation. "The nice thing about the Xbox 360 right now is--if you look--we're the number one console globally," Spencer told Gamespot. We're able to bring in new content and still support the best of the core games." However, with new engines being revealed by Epic Games and others, it seems likely that new platforms are launching soon--in spite of what Spencer is saying. It's likely that Xbox 360 will coexist with whatever Microsoft's next system is, much like PlayStation 2 did at the launch of the PS3.

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    June 8, 2012 5:30 PM

    Andrew Yoon posted a new article, Xbox 360 has 'a lot more than two years' left, MS boss says.

    Although all signs point to a late 2013 launch for the next generation of consoles, Microsoft is attempting to downplay the impending new slate of video gaming hardware.

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      June 8, 2012 5:38 PM

      ughhhh

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        June 8, 2012 5:55 PM

        I was ready for a new set of consoles at least two years ago. It's nearing seven years now. That's an incredibly long time for tech -- seven years ago anyone with a smartphone was likely touting a BlackBerry.

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          June 8, 2012 6:03 PM

          I agree I want to play UE4 games and Square Enix stuff :( and other crazy stuff.

          Be great to move on, all well at least we have our PCs but it would help massively if S and MS moved to new gear to progress everything.

          I am starting to have a feeling they are not kidding, in 2 years the next consoles will come out.

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          June 9, 2012 2:34 AM

          I have a Samsung Galaxy SII. 7 years ago I didn't have a phone at all :P . (I was 13 and my parents were like "You don't need one").

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      June 8, 2012 5:41 PM

      My guess is they're assuming they can get some cross-platform interest from 3rd parties between the WiiU and SmartGlass.

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        June 8, 2012 6:17 PM

        With the Wii U not blowing them out of the water this E3 I can believe we won't see an actual next gen console for awhile.

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          June 9, 2012 6:09 AM

          I think that has more to do with their failure to highlight launch titles(or lack of big launch titles) and the giant controller.

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      June 8, 2012 6:16 PM

      As long as their consoled don't get banned in the USA like they did in Germany lol.

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      June 8, 2012 6:17 PM

      I sure hope the devs don't think this. Hopefully they just switch to making PC games.

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      June 8, 2012 6:17 PM

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      June 8, 2012 6:42 PM

      Really? I ditched both my 360 and ps3 2 years ago for a brand new pc because the hardware in the consoles was far too dated for me.

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        June 9, 2012 2:27 AM

        I have a brand new PC and I still think the consoles look decent. Although I'm more of the "I want a fun game" crowd than "I want to show off this benchmark to my friend" type.

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          June 9, 2012 2:32 AM

          Agreed... and besides I'm not eager to throw my money out of the window. I want them (MS and Sony) to really push the boundaries of what's possible with this generation's consoles. Somehow analogue to the early nineties when hardware simply didn't have the horsepower and developers had to think of ways to make it possible, rather than just switching to the next generation of hardware.

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          June 9, 2012 4:52 AM

          What I cannot deal with is low resolution textures, jaggies, zero graphics options, and 720p (everything looks blurry to me). Going from 1440p gaming on a 7970 and back to consoles is absolutely brutal, especially for games like BF3 where consoles limit actual gameplay (player limit etc).

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            June 9, 2012 6:58 AM

            Seems fine to me, I jump from high-end gaming PC to consoles all the time. I like playing video games.

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              June 9, 2012 5:40 PM

              I like playing video games too, not sure what you're implying here...

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                June 12, 2012 5:22 PM

                I grew up playing video games and enjoy playing them regardless of how they look.

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            June 9, 2012 10:14 AM

            Exactly how i feel, i haven't played a game on my 360 for almost a year now, i just can't stand the low resolution and the jaggies everywhere oh and the fact that games for pc are cheaper also helps alot to decide on what platform to buy them.

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            June 10, 2012 5:05 AM

            Absolutely! I bought my son Skyrim for the 360 and seeing that garbage spread across my 55" TV confirmed in my mind that the console is garbage. Skyrim on the PC completely kicks ass compared to the console version.

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          June 9, 2012 6:17 AM

          Generally I think I enjoy games on xbox and ps3 more than I do when playing on my PC. I tend to get caught up in fucking with settings and tweaking on the PC rather than just enjoying the damn game.

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        June 9, 2012 7:50 AM

        Good man.

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      June 8, 2012 6:51 PM

      doesn't matter what the next tech is... will it run netflix?...

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        June 8, 2012 7:03 PM

        Your next toaster will probably run netflix.

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        June 9, 2012 9:36 AM

        Only if you sign up for xbox live platinum.

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      June 8, 2012 11:21 PM

      Snazzy new games now plz k thx bye

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      June 9, 2012 1:04 AM

      MS please explain this to me. Why all multi platform games demoing on PC ???

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        June 9, 2012 1:34 AM

        What does that have to do with the article?

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          June 9, 2012 2:11 AM

          I guess what he wanted to say that if all games were shown on PC to look better, then how do they justify it if they consider their tech is still good enough?

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            June 9, 2012 4:00 AM

            They arn't talking about tech, they're talking about money. The xbox 360 will continue to be a profitable platform for their investors for years to come, regardless of whether there is also a xbox 720 available too.

            Gamers really need to learn to parse these kind of statements better.

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              June 9, 2012 6:02 AM

              Hell yeah, people still enjoy the gamecube / ps2 whatever.

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      June 9, 2012 2:24 AM

      They mean they will keep adding media and social shit to 360 to keep people buying it. They want people to buy it as a media hub even after the next gen comes out. Makes perfect sense.

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        June 9, 2012 6:26 AM

        I also imagine XBLA on 360 could be VERY profitable after next-gen is out since that could be the avenue where new wacky games come out that don't need to be WTF awesome looking.

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      June 9, 2012 3:57 AM

      Exactly what I'd expect a corporate money ho who knows absolutely nothing about gaming to say.

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      June 9, 2012 4:27 AM

      It doesn't seem like they have any real reason to rush to the next gen yet. The Wiiu isn't the same kind of console and sony, who knows what's going on over there.

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      June 9, 2012 5:07 AM

      Consoles are losing their luster for me. The past year or so I've been primarily a PC gamer except for when i feel like playing some football.

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        June 9, 2012 5:36 AM

        Yup I've been spoiled by 1080p with ridiculous levels of FSAA. Going back to sub-720p with no AA hurts!

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          June 9, 2012 8:54 AM

          120hz doesn't hurt either.

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      June 9, 2012 5:21 AM

      I have to assume that this is lip service so that game developers don't halt 360 game development

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      June 9, 2012 5:35 AM

      As long as people keep buying the damn thing they have no reason to move ahead. The only danger is the other two console makers grabbing mindshare and market ahead of them.

      I remember they dropped the original Xbox as soon as the 360 came out. Games dried up very quickly. Interested to see what happens when Durango is released.

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        June 9, 2012 5:49 AM

        I've thought about that as well, and I don't think MS can afford to drop the 360 as quickly as they dropped the first 'box. In comparison to this generation of Xbox Live and XBLA, the original XBL was barebones and easy to step away from. In contrast, people have invested too much time and money in games and services on this generation of hardware--including PSN and WiiWare/Virtual Console--for console makers to move any less than snail-like when it comes to lining up their new hardware ducks.

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          June 9, 2012 5:59 AM

          There's a big difference between dropping XBL support and ceasing new games. The original XBL may have been barebones and easy to step away from, but it still took Microsoft four years to do so. As long as Microsoft keeps the 360 service up that long they'd be fine.

          And honestly, unless they're complete dolts the service will work with both consoles (since I don't see many Xbox gamers being willing to abandon their old achievement list)...

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      June 9, 2012 5:55 AM

      All of you spouting off about dumping the consoles for brand spankin' new PCs are forgetting that not many casual and even core console gamers are willing, or can afford, to do that. There are those of us like valcan_s who live and die by graphical fidelity, but for the mainstream crowd just looking to pop in a disc and start playing, the PS3 and 360 still look great, as evidenced by upcoming games like Beyond, Halo 4, The Last of Us, and Gears of War Next.

      Many decked out gaming rigs run cheap, but only in comparison to more expensive gaming rigs. So long as consumers can flounce into Wal-mart and pick up a console, which qualifies as a complete, if outdated, "gaming rig," for between $99 and $350 (the high-end for special PS3 bundles, and I bet most consumers opt for the $250 package anyway), they're going to do that.

      And why shouldn't they? This year's E3 proved that there are plenty of forthcoming and exciting games in the pipe for both the PS3 and 360.

      As much as the idea of new hardware intrigues me, only Nintendo really needs to upgrade at this point, and I don't relish the idea of staring at $400-$600 price tags on Xbox 720 and PS4 boxes just yet.

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        June 9, 2012 7:29 AM

        I disagree about the graphics part - current consoles are starting to look pretty long in the tooth compared to modern gaming rigs - BF3 was the one that made me really start noticing the DX9ness of my 360.

        I do agree though that 95% of the planet doesn't care because they don't know anything better exists so they think its fine. They also are not going to drop $1k on a gaming rig when a 360 is good enough.

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          June 9, 2012 11:00 AM

          I bought my sister a PS3 and a bunch of games and Blu Rays 3 years ago for a wedding present. They only hooked it up to a HDTV last year. Before it was connected to an old 480p rear projection TV in the gaming room. You are right in saying that most people don't care.

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        June 9, 2012 7:30 AM

        Get a job.

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        June 9, 2012 10:26 AM

        If people want to move to PCs because Sony and Microsoft don't want to give us a new console just yet, then that's fine. I don't understand why you're arguing against that if one has the means to do so -- it has nothing to do with this thread, really.

        And of course the PS3 and 360 will continue to have their exclusives. What are they going to do, develop and demo a game for a generation of consoles that doesn't yet exist for another two years?

        It's telling that many people fawned over how great some of the multiplatform games looked at E3, but most of those games were running on PCs. Sony and Microsoft aren't ready for new hardware just yet, but many of us have been. 400-600 dollars (Xbox 360 Core started at 300) for a machine that's going to last for at least five years all while receiving continuous support is a great deal.

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      June 9, 2012 10:40 AM

      I'm not supporting any consoles until new systems come out. 7 year old tech is 7 year old tech

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      June 9, 2012 11:45 AM

      One of many and I do mean MANY, reasons I'm switching to PC.
      Honestly I don't even care about the next gen of consoles anymore. I'll get them for exclusives once they're dirt cheap, years after they launch. I can't wait to build a kick *** rig.

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      June 9, 2012 4:49 PM

      As a PC gamer I like this news. It means that I don't have to upgrade as often to enjoy high / max settings for video games. While some games will push the PC hardware the majority are limited by the console development process. I use my PS3 for exclusives, it does the job pretty well. It would not worry me one little bit to have 3 more years in the current gen.

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      June 9, 2012 6:26 PM

      Why is this hardware generation different from others in terms of longevity? It seems that since the NES it's been 4-6 years between hardware generations. Why the change now?

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        June 9, 2012 8:29 PM

        Well, there are a few reasons, the first one is obvious, if you look at the graph above. Microsoft (and to an extent, Sony) are selling more consoles than they've ever sold right now. They are by far the leaders in the market. It would be dumb for them to compete with themselves by releasing another machine. For some reason, there are a lot of late adopters, and the fact that these consoles have all kinds of TV and movie streaming services incorporated helps out a lot. They also weren't affordable to most people until the past few years.

        Also, any new Xbox will likely be incredibly expensive. If you remember, PS3's used to cost over $800 to make, but Sony was selling them for $600. So even at that incredibly high price point, they were taking a loss. It's unavoidable now with the way technology has been going. So Microsoft probably wants to ride this wave of money before they move into that territory.

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        June 9, 2012 8:33 PM

        I imagine it's self-imposed by the major console makers mainly because of diminishing returns and high cost of producing modern games is increasing exponential with the technology.

        For example, a few guys could probably complete an NES project in a few months even at the time it was new technology. Contrast that with 50+ member dev teams and 2+ year development times costing millions for mainstream games today.

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        June 10, 2012 6:20 AM

        The global economic recession likely plays a part as well. People are much less likely to drop $300 to $400 on something as frivolous as a video game console when they are barely able to pay the rent/mortgage. MS and Sony may be waiting for the economy to pick up again.

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        June 10, 2012 8:13 AM

        Besides the reasons others mentioned, the leaps in technology from, say, the NES to the SNES, and the SNES to the N64, were obvious. Graphics and other techs improved overtly, and console makers wanted to refresh their hardware to interest fans in the next big thing. With the explosion in technology, every 5 years was the perfect time to put the old to rest and roll out the new hotness.

        But more recently, the improvements in graphics haven't been as great. Why roll out new hardware when technology is moving in steps instead of leaps and bounds? Also, audience expectations and technology have brought about rising costs in development. Games cost a lot to make, so developers want to learn a piece of hardware and stick with it as long as possible rather than spend time and money learning something new every 5 years.

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      June 10, 2012 8:30 AM

      If MS do release a console next year and keep the 360 going it'll be good for the industry and good for Nintendo, if they don't release another console next year it'll leave a bigger opening in the console market for new console providers and good for Nintendo.

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      June 10, 2012 11:07 AM

      They are leaving the door open for Apple by playing the waiting game.

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      June 10, 2012 1:02 PM

      Of course it has more than two years. Even after the next gen system is released, the 360 and PS3 and even the Wii will have at least 1 or 2 more years to linger while the new systems are being adopted. This is a normal occurrence.

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      June 10, 2012 1:09 PM

      Im hope they do wait two more years. This will probably sway more gamers and developers back to the superior PC platform.

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      June 12, 2012 9:47 AM

      Whoa the Wii was killin' em for a minute!