Weekend Discussion

Apparently my American co-workers are recovering from Turkey. I wasn't aware the country was such a hot-spot for wild parties and intense boozening. From what I hear, people are coming back full, sleepy, and covered in cranberry sauce. I'll have to call my travel agent. I think I know where I'm going for my vacation.

Until then, here's what the staff is playing/up to this weekend.

  • Alice O'Connor: [More fish and chips than turkey and gravy]
  • Brian Leahy: [Turkey coma.]
  • Garnett Lee: I just managed to get Gran Turismo 5 installed before leaving for Thanksgiving. I guess it will be waiting for me when I get back at the end of the weekend. In the meantime, I grabbed Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep to take with me on my brief holiday travels.
  • Xav de Matos: Sleeping in on Saturday, recovering from watching the 12-hour Pardcast-a-Thon to benefit Smile Train. When I get to it, I'll be playing Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Mafia 2, and Enslaved: Odyssey to the West.
  • Jeff Mattas: I'm on vacation next week, but that won't prevent me from spending some time with Assassin's Creed Brotherhood, Black Ops, and Rock Band 3. Eagerly awaiting the Epic Mickey release as well.
From The Chatty
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    November 27, 2010 8:00 AM

    Weekend Discussion Minecraft Thread!
    Official Lore Edition!!!

    C. Jarrard, First Record Keeper and Scholar of foo1}Y, has prepared for the citizenry a brief draft of the history of the world, to be distributed among and read by the residents of the towns and nations that lie upon it.

    Multiplayer Servers!
    MercFox1 : shackeast.sytes.net / se.shkn.ws / shackeast.shkn.ws
    foo1 (PvP/mobs): 75.101.148.242 / Foo1.shkn.ws / nastygood.sytes.net
    Shadowdane : shadowdane.shacknet.nu / sd.shkn.ws / shadowdane.shkn.ws
    Chicken Fur : 69.169.149.253 / cf.shkn.ws / chickenfur.shkn.ws
    m0rfus (PvP/mobs) : morfus.dyndns.org / morfus.shkn.ws
    Haxim (TNT Server) : asplode.dyndns.org / haxim.shkn.ws

    Teamspeak : ts.shackbattles.com:9987

    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24624526#itemanchor_24624526

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      November 27, 2010 8:00 AM

      PFFFFFFT

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      November 27, 2010 8:01 AM

      Guides and Utilities

      - Oizomapper! Map your single player or multiplayer levels! By mroizo40
      http://www.digitized-e.com/mroizo/OizoMapper.zip

      - Shackwiki Minecraft page!
      http://shackwiki.com/wiki/Minecraft

      Video Guides!
      - (Series) X's Adventures in Minecraft! Linked by zuff!
      http://tinyurl.com/2ah7sex
      Lots of useful info in here!

      - (Series) Minecraft Minecart Tutorials! Boosters! Track switches! Et cetera!
      http://tinyurl.com/2udl2lt

      - Water Physics Tutorial by Arctic Fox!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24127669#itemanchor_24127669

      Written Guides!
      - Beginner’s Guides to Minecraft, originally linked by at0micgarden!
      (Work in Progress) Guide to Alpha: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=17021
      How to Survive Your First Night: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=19065

      Shacker Help!
      - Things I Wish I’d Known, a retrospective by Ebu!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23608826#itemanchor_23608826

      - Linkmania! By zuff!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23514788#itemanchor_23514788
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23533536#itemanchor_23533536


      - Ores, and How to Find Them, by Fooldozer and CodeRedBeard!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23582115#itemanchor_23582115

      - Multiplayer Tips from BlackCat9
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23641449#itemanchor_23641449

      - Circle guides! More useful than they sound!
      http://www.agentpothead.com/minecraft/sphere.html linked/hosted by AgentPothead!
      http://www.shackpics.com/files/radii_even_to_100_pgzh2n77iabkgcmee93q.png hosted by Arctic Fox!

      - Beginner’s Guide to Redstone, links by The Grolar Bear!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24044649#itemanchor_24044649

      - And some generally useful keys to press!
      F11 - full screen!
      F3 (hold) - CPU/ memory usage bar! Spikes for CPU/ red box for memory, I think!
      F5 - third person mode!

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      November 27, 2010 8:03 AM

      YELLOW EDITION

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      November 27, 2010 8:05 AM

      Foo1 Talk

      What nations do we have so far?

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        November 27, 2010 8:11 AM

        Epic Mountain is still an independent town but we'll consider joining whoever extends this far first.

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        November 27, 2010 8:12 AM

        I'm in the process of writing a script that will tell us all nations, their towns, their residences and the claimed block count. Hopefully have it done later today.

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          November 27, 2010 8:15 AM

          you are a magical man

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          November 27, 2010 8:21 AM

          That's pretty slick

        • foo
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          November 27, 2010 9:07 AM

          Quick and dirty proof of concept:

          [djr@box towny]$ sh towny_stats.sh
          Nation: Panisia
          Capital City: PanoraMajor

          Towns:
          PanoraMajor
          Skullville
          NewNavcom
          TheOasis
          Islandville

          #############################

          Nation: Undersized
          Capital City: Tinytown

          Towns:
          Tinytown

          #############################

          Nation: Lamperia
          Capital City: Lamperia

          Towns:
          Lamperia
          NewBrickton
          Overlook

          #############################


          Can't decide if I should have the "Town"s be links to detailed pages, which has the residents and all that, or just make it one big page that everything is dumped out on, which would make a 'find' easier in the browser

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            November 27, 2010 9:11 AM

            maybe have one big page and a detailed page for each one?

            • foo
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              November 27, 2010 9:14 AM

              Yeah I could probably do both, that way we could link to the town pages if someone asks "who's in this town?" or whatever

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            November 27, 2010 10:12 AM

            regarding these Nations, how does each feel with regards to warring with other nations etc? I'm thinking of starting a 'PvE only' nation in the North for players that prefer to play that way.

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              November 27, 2010 10:14 AM

              Epic Mountain in the north is all PvE so far, no one's even close to encroaching upon our borders so we have no reason to take up arms against anything other than creepers and cows.

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        November 27, 2010 8:14 AM

        The Nation of Undersized is slowly being surrounded by the nations on either side of it, which is quite fitting.

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        November 27, 2010 8:17 AM

        i have started the Empire in a secret location

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        November 27, 2010 8:32 AM

        Cleveland is still Indie.

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        November 27, 2010 1:31 PM

        I created a town and am building a castle in it, but I would like to become part of a nation so I can get in on this pvp goodness. I'm just north and a bit west of the spawn (just a single watchtower with the wall started as of right now)

        How does my town join a nation so I can start killing bitches?

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        November 27, 2010 3:19 PM

        How does one go about joining a faction on foo1?

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          November 27, 2010 3:25 PM

          ask a mayor of a town to join and they will take it from there.

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            November 27, 2010 3:50 PM

            If I just run around to look at the different ones will I get killed?

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              November 27, 2010 4:37 PM

              by monsters maybe, PvP requires both parties to agree

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        November 28, 2010 4:32 PM

        can I get build permission on foo1? In game i'm forceflow1049

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          November 28, 2010 4:38 PM

          If you're in-game now just make yourself known to a mod/admin (red names in chat)

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      November 27, 2010 8:10 AM

      oh wow

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        November 27, 2010 8:15 AM

        Some thing wrong, sir? Care to let me know about it?

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          November 27, 2010 8:33 AM

          It was the first time he masturbated.

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      November 27, 2010 8:14 AM

      Hello shackers!

      I was wondering if I could be given whitelist/building status on the old foo1 (PvP/mobs) server?

      Minecraft alias: Synchrotron

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        November 27, 2010 8:25 AM

        Do you have some one who could vouch for you? There are a few prerequisites for getting builder permissions (registered for 2 months, or having 200 posts), and unfortunately you don't meet either of them!

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          November 27, 2010 9:28 AM

          No I don't :( I'm one of those strange people that just lurks on the threads :(

          I'm extremely confused about the whole join date thing though, as I'm sure I a long time ago especially since I didn't need to register to post today D: D:

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            November 28, 2010 12:02 AM

            Join date registers when your first post is made :/

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      November 27, 2010 8:15 AM

      srs ? for admins: having trouble getting hMod to see my plugins. they are placed in the right folder and the server properties file has them listed.

      when i start the server and they are not in that folder, it throws an error about not finding it. when in th correct folder, everything is gravy. but hMod still wont see them.

      if you have suggestions, please let me know or chat with me on steam.

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        November 27, 2010 6:34 PM

        Nobody has tips for him?

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        November 28, 2010 12:05 AM

        File/directory perms/ownership?

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      November 27, 2010 8:29 AM

      Server go boom?

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      November 27, 2010 8:36 AM

      It appears I may have to abandon terraforming on Penis Lake. It would be too large to even completely observe from the skybox.

      http://www.shackpics.com/files/Capture_dxzav1ln5esu83uhc64x.jpg

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      November 27, 2010 8:40 AM

      A view from Cock Express coming into NewBrickton at night.

      http://imgur.com/a28G3.jpg

      Shes beautiful ;D

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        November 27, 2010 8:41 AM

        You guys are doing awesome things over there...we'll need to protect your Southern border from the warmongers over in Panisia.

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          November 27, 2010 9:00 AM

          We are not warmongers!

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            November 27, 2010 9:04 AM

            Your side started the war, unprovoked. That makes you warmongers.

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            November 27, 2010 9:09 AM

            Which nation's first priority was a PRISON?

            We're over here building railways to bridge our great nations and you just want to imprison us.

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        November 27, 2010 8:51 AM

        That's awesome

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          November 27, 2010 9:07 AM

          Thanks, we're prep'in the TNT rocket for war.

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        November 27, 2010 9:20 AM

        I need to be a part of this ostentatious town. We can do great things together.

        • foo
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          November 27, 2010 9:22 AM

          Panisia does not look kindly upon traitors.

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            November 27, 2010 9:38 AM

            LOL, hang him in town square. I'll break the noose with my bow and rescue him back to our town. Where abouts we will celebrate by sipping the wine of fermented blood from Panisia citizens. :D

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              November 28, 2010 12:10 AM

              The arrow won't arrive until 20 seconds after he is executed

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            November 27, 2010 9:44 AM

            New Brickton is apart of Lamperia Empire? And noxiousgg is a resident of Lamperia--how does that make him a traitor?

            Noxi, you should be able to build there because you are an ally.

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              November 27, 2010 9:45 AM

              wait, wtf? Noxiousgg left Lamperia?! Well fuck you too.

              • foo
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                November 27, 2010 9:59 AM

                haha

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                November 27, 2010 11:18 AM

                Someone destroyed my tower yesterday without even saying anything because I apparently built where he was planning to build, even though it wasn't marked in any way. I want to build with you guys, but if my work isn't going to be appreciated or at least respected, what's the point?

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                  November 27, 2010 11:29 AM

                  This is how wars start....

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                    November 27, 2010 11:33 AM

                    this is why I founded my town on the rugged northern front, so I could watch southerlings fight amongst themselves!

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                      November 27, 2010 11:34 AM

                      We should found the nation of Switzerland in the North, Hemi

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                        November 27, 2010 2:29 PM

                        The glorious nation of Switzerland, defenders of the southern lands and slayers of a thousand cows!

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                  November 27, 2010 2:35 PM

                  This. Merc got his panties in a wad and said everything egg made was annoying or something like that. She he left.

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        November 27, 2010 11:43 AM

        Yeah, but they aren't very friendly.. I think somebody killed me and took my stuff while I came by to visit.

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          November 27, 2010 12:40 PM

          Yeah you do have to watch your back in NewBrickton, Its sketchy at night.

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      November 27, 2010 8:46 AM

      Couple things about Foo's server I'd like to suggest:
      1) No Renders
      2) We should start using gold as an economy

      1) The reason I think we shouldn't use any renders is so that A) Cartography can be a profession and cartographers will be very valuable in war and B) Having renders will make sneak attacks on places much more powerful/coordinated.

      Thus, cartographers can earn a salary and/or charge to the highest bidder for their maps, which leads me to my next point....

      2) Using gold as an economy is harder than somebody just going 'ok let's do it', it requires the faith of the majority to be viable. I'm hoping we could take a vote on this just to have everyone show their support (or not). Free Market, Pro Business, etc.

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        November 27, 2010 8:50 AM

        re: 1, that's what morfus' server is doing

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          November 27, 2010 10:06 AM

          Yup, no renders. People have to explore to find someone to kill.

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        November 27, 2010 9:01 AM

        I like point #1

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        November 27, 2010 9:05 AM

        did they fix the duping bug in SMP yet?

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        November 27, 2010 9:05 AM

        I would not abide by #2 until gold has some value. I'll barter and exhange goods but I don't trade for worthless gold, sorry!

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          November 27, 2010 10:10 AM

          Yeah, gold as the basis for economy makes no sense as gold has no inherent value.

          Diamond would make more sense, as it lets you make the best tools, weapons, and armor.

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            November 27, 2010 10:11 AM

            I could go with diamond if the dupe bugs were fixed. Until then I'll just mine for shit myself or exchange goods.

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            November 28, 2010 5:05 PM

            The fact that gold has no inherent value is the point. By using a currency that is at a level of abstraction higher than the immediately practical you gain convenience. Also, by saying 'gold as the basis for economy makes no sense as gold has no inherent value' you're saying that the economy prior to the 1930s made no sense...

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              November 28, 2010 5:07 PM

              And, by association, the economy we have, which is printed on paper and based on faith, which has even less inherent value than gold (at least with gold you can build things but with faith not so much) also makes no sense. According to you, anyway.

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                November 28, 2010 5:16 PM

                The only problem I see is that would only be two denominations: gold ingots and blocks (I don't know if anybody would be using gold ore, but that would be a three I suppose).

                Say I only wanted 64 cobble, but the going rate is 256 cobble per 1 gold ingot. Either you get 256 and have a lot left over, or you just have to mine the cobble yourself. Doesn't seem to be very practical to me.

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                November 28, 2010 5:23 PM

                Gold in Minecraft, BarrowWight! In Minecraft it's only used for horrible tools and making clocks; nobody gives a shit about clocks! Also, an economy based on anything other barter is ridiculous based on the state that the game is in currently.

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              November 28, 2010 7:14 PM

              why dont you go convince a storeowner to take a couple of leaves or a pebble in exchange for their goods with that line of argument

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        November 27, 2010 9:36 AM

        I don't know.. most cartographers would suck initially until certain advances in technology would happen. I think cartography would be a limited skill at best right now.

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        November 27, 2010 10:56 AM

        I'm not into larping and find the renders useful.

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        November 27, 2010 11:08 AM

        BTW BarrowWight, I irrigated the greenhouse and put walkways above the irrigation. Should be good to start planting when you're ready.

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        November 27, 2010 12:29 PM

        Well it's a bit late for no renders, but I agree, it'd be more interesting for PVP and fake hardcore PVE.

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      November 27, 2010 8:48 AM

      Guys can you add Snipergen to your filters so I can build stuff on your awesome servers? Thanks :)

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      November 27, 2010 8:51 AM

      Afternoon/morning, could someone on foo1 provide me with some tasty building access type stuff?

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        November 27, 2010 9:05 AM

        Sure thing. You have to join a town to build within the town though, obviously.

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          November 27, 2010 9:10 AM

          Yeah I need to look at the towny stuff

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      November 27, 2010 9:04 AM

      The town of Overlook guards the back door of its ally, Lamperia. We have some choice land right on the nations capital and could use some more members.

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      November 27, 2010 9:10 AM

      Who is RoadVirus? He needs to go unclaim some land lol

      • foo
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        November 27, 2010 9:10 AM

        do /resident RoadVirus to see which town/nation he's a part of

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      November 27, 2010 9:28 AM

      Surprisingly my MC name is "etherboy"

      I find this distrust of persons named etherboy very racist against my people!

      I will forthwith be lodging a complaint with the greater foo authority for an immediate reparation in the amount of 5,000 diamond ore.

      I expect a swift and positive outcome to this matter.

      Yours sexily,

      etherboy

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        November 27, 2010 10:09 AM

        Come to Lamperia, ether! We have huuuuuge...tracts of land for you to mine in.

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          November 27, 2010 1:24 PM

          My good sir,

          This olive-branch offering of acceptance to your fine nation of "Lamperia" has brought a tear to this weathered old dog's eye!

          I seek only a small plot of land upon which I can construct a home to commit adulterous acts with farm animals research into animal husbandry... and cockbarges!

          Your lord MercFox1; I shall call upon you in the future to guide me to my future home amongst your great peoples.

          No homo,

          etherboy

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      November 27, 2010 10:09 AM

      Foo1 crashed again :(

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        November 27, 2010 10:10 AM

        yup ;(

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        November 27, 2010 10:10 AM

        yep.. just as I was getting raped by a creeper

      • foo
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        November 27, 2010 10:11 AM

        Restarted. AreaOutOfBounds exception again.

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          November 27, 2010 10:27 AM

          You think it's Towny causing the problems?? I haven't had one crash lately

          • foo
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            November 27, 2010 11:24 AM

            I think I'm still in that beta version of hey0, and I haven't updated the minecraft server since the last update yet

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      November 27, 2010 10:10 AM

      foo1 crashed?

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      November 27, 2010 10:12 AM

      So...I'm thinking we should make a war happen soon if only to figure out what that really means...whether we can break blocks to get inside cities or whether it just means standing around trying to convert the blocks we can in hopes no one shoots us.

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      November 27, 2010 10:15 AM

      Monsters spawning randomly across ground level in SMP. AHHH!!!!

    • foo
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      November 27, 2010 10:47 AM

      Basic Towny stats

      http://foo1.shkn.ws/~djr/mc/towny.html

      This will do for now, I'll make it more useful later. This updates every 10 minutes.

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        November 27, 2010 11:16 AM

        Towns with no nation don't show?

        • foo
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          November 27, 2010 11:20 AM

          Not yet, I'm still working on it

        • foo
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          November 27, 2010 11:35 AM

          I think that's a good idea - however now that we can set pvp flags for our specific towns, it might not be that important.

          For example, we (Panisia) just took Cleveland into our nation, because they were just south of our borders. We struck up a deal where they can use our resources (coal, cobble, etc), and we will protect them. In exchange, we can use their land for hunting food, and a point of expansion. However, Cleveland isn't interested in PVP, so I told him to just disable the PVP flag for his land. Problem solved. Now he basically gets to keep building how he wants, without the worry of being killed by another player. He still gets to use our resources, and we still get to use his land.

          The players that just want to build, can. The players that want PVP, can. And both can still be a part of a larger nation, and still take advantage of the resources/land.

          It's a win-win.

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        November 27, 2010 12:30 PM

        I didn't realize Cleveland was part of us, heh.

        I still don't think I want to move there. ;)

        • foo
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          November 27, 2010 12:32 PM

          We just picked him up earlier today

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        November 27, 2010 12:42 PM

        Is there any benefit to joining a nation if you don't want to go to war?

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          November 27, 2010 12:44 PM

          Towns have protection mode which means your shit cant get griefed.

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            November 27, 2010 12:46 PM

            Tell that to the daytime ninja creepers....

            I want to fuck up the nation that let them assholes join.

        • foo
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          November 27, 2010 12:56 PM

          Resources and land space. Plus, help on projects. Panisia shares its resources with all of her states.

      • foo
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        November 27, 2010 3:00 PM

        Okay, so I should have a lot more time tonight to work on this. What would you guys like to see?

        Currently implimented:
        Nations:
        * Nation Capitals
        * Towns, and residents of towns
        * Allies/enemies

        Planned:
        Towns:
        * Mayors
        * Assistants
        * Blocks owned
        * Residents
        * PVP status (allowed/disallowed)
        Break each town page into its own URL, for easy linking



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      November 27, 2010 11:30 AM

      I seem to have a problem where half the mobs from the night cycle don't disappear unless I log out several times.

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        November 27, 2010 11:31 AM

        Is that half the creepers and spiders? Because they can live in daylight

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          November 27, 2010 11:36 AM

          the green things. and they still attack.

          • foo
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            November 27, 2010 11:39 AM

            Those are creepers, and yes, daylight means nothing to them. Once they see you, they charge at you. Best to run and try to lose them somewhere

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              November 28, 2010 5:55 PM

              If you are on grass just run a bit ahead of them and dig a hole two blocks deep and lure it in there. Then kill it at will.

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      November 27, 2010 12:35 PM

      Foo1 is down again :(

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      November 27, 2010 12:35 PM

      foo1 just crashed the instant after _jon joined at 3:33 est :P

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        November 27, 2010 12:36 PM

        That's what I saw too.

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        November 27, 2010 12:37 PM

        We had just too much penis and then _jon joined and the server was like 'TOO MUCH COCK TO HANDLE!'

        Then it died.

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        November 27, 2010 12:45 PM

        i connected and was just stuck somewhere

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        November 27, 2010 12:47 PM

        PAGING THE DEVIL.....I MEAN FOO

      • foo
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        November 27, 2010 12:59 PM

        It's up again. I also updated hey0 and minecraft

        • foo
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          November 27, 2010 1:00 PM

          Crashed again as soon as _jon logged in. Sorry _jon, but I had to delete your player dat file. The chunk you were in was probably corrupt.

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            November 27, 2010 1:01 PM

            no problem, i was hoping you'd do that

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      November 27, 2010 12:37 PM

      Does foo's server have local chat on?

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        November 27, 2010 12:42 PM

        What's that?

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          November 27, 2010 12:45 PM

          It means in order to chat with people you need to be somewhat close to them.

      • foo
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        November 27, 2010 12:59 PM

        Where is this option? Cutting down on the chat would be great.

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      November 27, 2010 12:49 PM

      So, I got up on my sky island, covered it with torches them made a glass bridge from my island to a smaller sky island nearby. From there I made a bridge to a hill top so I would have easy access to my aerial domain.

      Then minecraft crashed. When I restarted, all of my bridge work was gone. That was some scary work, hanging 10 up in the air like that too. sigh...

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      November 27, 2010 12:57 PM

      I have no idea how it's set up, but can we steal hardware or something from MercFox server to help make the Foo server less laggy/more stable?

      Most of the time there is nobody on MercFox anymore, from what I've seen.

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      November 27, 2010 1:00 PM

      _jon crashed it again.

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        November 27, 2010 1:00 PM

        i just spawn in a weird all-blue area and then can't /home or anything.

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        November 27, 2010 1:01 PM

        BAN HIM!

        (In before in before QUIT WHINING)

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      November 27, 2010 1:28 PM

      DP: My server is PvE can you add that to these posts! Thanks

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        November 27, 2010 2:01 PM

        Double Penetration: My server is Poop very Extreme...

        Where do I sign up?

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      November 27, 2010 2:19 PM

      Maddog as target practice.

      http://imgur.com/Gj1qu.png

      LOL

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      November 27, 2010 3:01 PM

      QUESTION: How do I make a server? I downloaded the minecraft_server.exe file since I'm using windows. I run it but it just sits there doing not much of anything. No other files or folders are created and I can't join my own ip. What gives? Does this work in Windows 7 64bit?

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      November 27, 2010 3:27 PM

      NEW WATER PHYSICS:

      You no longer have to checkerboard for water in SMP.

      I guess Notch stealth fixed it because it works just like in SSP now.

      That is all.

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        November 27, 2010 3:32 PM

        It's worked that way for quite some time now, but this is a good reminder in case anyone else didn't see when people were posting about this the first time.

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          November 27, 2010 3:50 PM

          yah this has been changed for at least a month if not more

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        November 27, 2010 3:32 PM

        *Paging Arctic Fox*

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        November 27, 2010 3:57 PM

        You NEVER had to checkerboard for water in SMP :p

        Yeah it works like SSP now, has since the patch after the Boo update. The tips regarding layout that I provide in my water video still work, mind, just that the gravel is now optional (so don't complain to me about using gravel in my vid, okay?)

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      November 27, 2010 4:19 PM

      So, I did some interesting things while I was "ghosted" on Shadowdane's server. I basically walked around, tried to kiss the sky (jump off high things) just to see if I would die/respawn, and attract half-a-dozen mobs just to lol at the fact that they couldn't touch me at all.

      http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=invincible_glb5z0jq2jwet1hqlbd7.jpg
      http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=invincible2_g48cdgjz31e8wr56qae3.jpg

      I could have harvested buttloads of gunpowder if I could only pick it up...
      http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=lolwut_9wt35xzqzk53xb11kj2k.png

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        November 27, 2010 4:36 PM

        vanilla textures make my brain hurt :(

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          November 27, 2010 4:41 PM

          what texture pack do you recommend?

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              November 27, 2010 4:57 PM

              After deleting my minecraft folder and starting fresh, following the instructions exactly, the game gets stuck at the loading screen after logging in. Hmm :(

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                November 27, 2010 5:20 PM

                seriously what the fuck is wrong
                I have done it 5 times now from a completely fresh install and still it gets stuck at the loading screen

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                  November 27, 2010 5:22 PM

                  You used the patcher and everything?

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                    November 27, 2010 5:28 PM

                    Yes. This must be broken or something.

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                      November 27, 2010 5:31 PM

                      Its actually the patcher that is not working. It wont finish patching.

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                        November 27, 2010 5:35 PM

                        It might not be working for the latest version of minecraft. In any case that would be your problem right there.

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                          November 27, 2010 5:36 PM

                          *I think it is working for the latest version though

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                            November 27, 2010 5:46 PM

                            Can you get it to work with your minecraft right now?

                            I do a fresh install, make sure no version and no minecraft original.jar, run and update minecraft, close it.

                            run the patcher, select the texture pack with 64v64 and all 5 boxes selected

                            then during the patch process it doesnt seem to finish, wont give me the option to run minecraft once i click patch.

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                              November 27, 2010 5:48 PM

                              not supposed to use the patcher to apply her texture pack. It doesn't apply all of the custom stuff she's made. Use the patcher to make the jar 64x64 texture ready, then copy all her stuff into the jar yourself

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                                November 27, 2010 5:50 PM

                                oh, well now if only her instructions actually SAID that.

                                lol women and instructions

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                                  November 27, 2010 9:42 PM

                                  hah yeah she ought to update her first post :( I gathered that from her most recent posts and assumed she'd updated the instructions in post 1. women :(

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                                November 27, 2010 6:20 PM

                                How do you make it 64x64 texture ready?

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                                  November 27, 2010 6:51 PM

                                  Holy crap, finally got it. The instructions given will not work. Gotta copy over the files and then run the patcher. Yay scanning 40 page threads

                                  • foo
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                                    November 27, 2010 10:21 PM

                                    I would try this if shit weren't down right now

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              November 28, 2010 12:07 PM

              That kind of looks too detailed. I'd rather have a 8-bit or 16-bit style to the textures.

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          November 27, 2010 5:09 PM

          I don't really have time to make my own, or I would. :]

          Painterly Pack is fine for now...it's Minecraft, not the Matrix, and I don't expect it to look that detai--
          *looks at Nighthawk's link*
          ...Whoa. That's purdy. I think I saw that texture pack last week on a friend's PC, and his framerate was going south of the border (on a faster 'puter than mine).
          Besides, 64x64 textures require more patching than I want to do on a constantly-updated "Alpha" version app. lol

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      November 27, 2010 5:07 PM

      Noooooo, foo1 down :(

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      November 27, 2010 5:08 PM

      ATTN MercFox1

      We finished the moat around Lamperia. 4 blocks wide, two blocks deep of water.

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      November 27, 2010 5:13 PM

      I'm bored of the current skin I'm using in minecraft, where do I get a new one?

      I don't care about texture packs, I just want to improve what I look like to people who meet me in the game.

    • foo
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      November 27, 2010 5:15 PM

      Here you go

      http://foo1.shkn.ws/~djr/mc/towny.html

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        November 27, 2010 5:16 PM

        You are awesome

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        November 27, 2010 5:20 PM

        Epic Mountain stands strong!

      • foo
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        November 27, 2010 5:38 PM

        Whoops, apparently I broke the nation breakdown

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        November 27, 2010 6:04 PM

        How did it manage to work out that the two big nations have the same number of residents?

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          November 27, 2010 6:09 PM

          An effective recruiting regiment?

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          November 27, 2010 6:19 PM

          Because say nation 1 has 3 peeps and nation 2 has 2 peeps, the next neutral person is going to join nation 2 because then they feel like the underdog. Then the nations are even and the next joiner randomly join whichever king he likes the most and the process goes back to step one.

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            November 27, 2010 7:29 PM

            I didn't even pay attention to the counts when I joined. I just grabbed the people who were closest to spawn.

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              November 27, 2010 7:43 PM

              That's what you think. I can see the true Vincent Grayson!

          • foo
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            November 27, 2010 7:45 PM

            For the most part, yes. However Panisia wants to keep all of its towns close-by, so we're mainly focusing on those in the south. If war ever came around, it's going to be hard to defend a northern town when we're all down in the south.

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      November 27, 2010 5:27 PM

      New Renders for my server: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24629211
      Added Night Oblique Render & Google Maps for Angle! :D

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      November 27, 2010 5:51 PM

      so I guess the PvP toggle doesn't toggle PvP, just friendly fire?

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      November 27, 2010 8:29 PM

      Did foo1 just die or is it me?

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        November 27, 2010 8:30 PM

        foo1 is gone. gone forever... and ever.

      • foo
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        November 27, 2010 8:34 PM

        Server crashed. I've disabled the render. It's too much for this server to run minecraft and the render at the same time.

        This server is way, way more active than MercFox1, and also lesser horsepower. I'll likely swap them.

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          November 27, 2010 9:06 PM

          i have to run OizoMapper on 1 thread as my server is only Dual Core... if I run 2 Threads which is default it usually locks up Java.

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            November 27, 2010 9:16 PM

            Doesn't foo have a dedicated server just for OizoMapper for the Merc1 map?

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      November 27, 2010 11:32 PM

      Civil Creeperssss of the Enlightened! I had to leave Panora. Your districts were a mess, and our ferrel brothers and sisters were destroying buildings, killing civilians, and mating in public! I had to leave the town. Foo, my apologies. Ramasule, you will always have a room and light in our noble house for your return. I offer you full trade privileges in my effort to assuage your great loss at my absence. I want to assure Panora all our goods will be 100% no-dupe, and that I offer excellent discounts to our close allies.

      -Best regardssssssss,
      Spyrext (Mayor of Wang Ruins)

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        November 27, 2010 11:41 PM

        Did you just call me Will Ferrel? I will not stand for this insult!

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          November 28, 2010 3:15 AM

          We will have another meeting sssssoon! Do not tell the othersssssss!

      • foo
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        November 28, 2010 6:55 AM

        You. Me. Outside. Now.

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      November 27, 2010 11:44 PM

      MEN of ENDOR

      Found a massive cave network that just keeps getting bigger and bigger (and increasingly fascinating) and need help mining it! I feel so guilty discovering it all by myself.

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        November 28, 2010 5:39 AM

        No worries! I've found quite a few massive caves down there myself. Did you see any torches int he one you found? If so, chances are I've been in there!

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          November 28, 2010 6:11 AM

          No, no torches. But it's almost directly under the town.

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            November 28, 2010 6:11 AM

            sorry, there are now torches. Just found a connecting cave.

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            November 28, 2010 6:12 AM

            Yeah we appear to have chosen our settlement wisely :D

            Anyone show you the vault yet?

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          November 28, 2010 6:19 AM

          HOLLY SHIT GOBLIN! You hit the motherload!!!!!! Diamonds DIAMONDS DIAMONDS

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            November 28, 2010 7:44 AM

            That was a fun trip despite the 10230985734987634 deaths

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              November 28, 2010 7:46 AM

              We are now rich, however

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                November 28, 2010 8:32 AM

                We're so rich, burn one hundred dollar notes toss diamonds into lava!

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                November 28, 2010 9:02 AM

                Good! Need to resupply our Diamond Tool stash

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                November 28, 2010 5:05 PM

                I slap rich cunts!

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      November 27, 2010 11:47 PM

      PAGING DR HEMTROLL

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      November 28, 2010 2:50 AM

      This guy finally started doing "Let's Play" videos, but I've always appreciated his tutorials more

      http://youtube.com/watch?v=mT6hKPnINh4

      Can't wait to see how he fleshes it out.

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      November 28, 2010 4:01 AM

      ATTN: Epic Mountain residents!

      If you're going to start a major project, please check with me or one of the assistants so we can set you up with a good location. The library is smack dab in the middle of our planned farmlands!

      That is all.

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      November 28, 2010 8:22 AM

      Foo,

      Just wanted to put an appeal out there for the bans of two of my citizens of New Brickton last night.

      First of all, I probably do not have all of the facts, and you being the server admin get to understandably make these calls. That being said, I would like to hash this out in order to full understand expectations. I was not online when this went down last night.

      First, Damaged0ne:
      My understanding is that he was banned from blowing up a crap load of TNT. My understanding is that this was not malicious, just exploratory. Obviously there was duping of TNT here, but lets circle back to the duping part. If DamagedOne was causing problems with TNT, I am hoping he was asked to stop prior to being flat out banned. If blowing up too much TNT causing ill effects for anyone, I would really hope you can post a rule about the usage of TNT, as we have found gunpowder and sand. I was simply told he was banned from blowing too much of it up.

      Now if the issue was duping, lets be real here, half the server dupes everything. Just look at the map to see sprawling walls, buildings, etc after two days. Some of us just want to be creative and don't have time to farm forever and want to just build cool things and have fun doing so. Would you be up for posting a rule to specifically ban the duping of TNT due to its destructive nature? I think we can get everyone on board with that rule.

      Now I would like to appeal to you to unban DamagedOne, as I do know him outside of the game, and he is a good guy. He's new to MC, and was exploring for fun. By all means if you've already warned them not to TNT and they did anyways, thats on them. My appeal is essecially on the basis of the new community the Towny mod has given us. We work to build a city, expand borders, and build cool things and people are getting banned. Is there not a better way to handle this?


      SgtEddieWinslow:
      I understand Winslow was running his mouth to you, which is probably a bad idea on his part when you are bitching at the server admin. All I can say is that he was simply angry about DamagedOne being booted out, as we all know each other outside of the game and came on to the server together to build. I have no idea what he actually said, and i'm sure it wasn't good. Is it at all possible to consider it a heat of the moment rage from a friend being booted?

      At any rate, I hope you'll consider what I've written and possible set real rules around TNT (number to use per minute, no duping, etc perhaps). The citizens of NewBrickton would really appreciate a ban reversal if you can at least partially agree with what I've written. If you do reverse your decision, Poedell and I will talk to them and make sure they understand and follow the rules.

      Thanks for the hosting and admin, It's a lot of work and we all appreciate it.

      P.S.
      I've been trying to get your attention to get build access to spawn to fix it up, connect roads to my town and the town on the opposite side. Right now I can't connect anything further, and spawn looks like a bombed out wasteland from creeps. Please let me know what we can do about that.

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        November 28, 2010 8:28 AM

        the only people who can build at spawn are admins AFAIK, I'll gladly come have a look at the area and help place down blocks.

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          November 28, 2010 8:29 AM

          also I'm not foo so I won't comment on anything else said :o

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            November 28, 2010 8:31 AM

            Yeah, the rest of that was meant just for foo.

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          November 28, 2010 8:30 AM

          Very appreciated. I believe the town on the side opposite of NewBrickton has a tunnel coming to it.

          I've build a welcome center cabin (needs more work) and a road right up to the spawn limits. We need to drop a billion torches and build proper roads / signs to welcome and direct people to the various towns. Perhaps the guys doing the mine car track would consider a spawn station?

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        November 28, 2010 8:35 AM

        It's actually pretty easy to gather tons of cobble to build huge walls pretty quickly, especially if people have a lot of time and a refined system after playing for so long.

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        November 28, 2010 8:35 AM

        Here's what I know.

        They were warned about duping, multiple times. Blowing off hundreds of TNT is obviously duping, and it's something that nobody else is doing. So they are getting an advantage. The TNT users claim that everyone dupes, pointing at other buildings, and they aren't necessarily proof of duping (I don't know the time frames they were built, etc).

        After being warned they continued to do it, so they got booted. So SgtEddie has no reason to complain.

        I've never used TNT, I don't know anyone that does, except for these dupers. This is supposed to be a somewhat competitive, PVP server, and duping TNT gives them an advantage.

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          November 28, 2010 8:38 AM

          Nixx, Just take a look at the massive walls around one region on the map, and many of the other areas. People dupe, there is no way around it. I dont personally use TNT, I have no need for it.

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            November 28, 2010 8:41 AM

            you're claims aren't exactly substantiated.

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              November 28, 2010 8:50 AM

              At any rate, this game is primarily a game where you explore/build. If you are duping, who cares, pvp is off in my town anyways.

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                November 28, 2010 8:53 AM

                I'd just like to point out that the PvP flag does in fact toggle friendly fire, not all PvP.

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                November 28, 2010 8:53 AM

                My point is, if these guys were asses, leave em banned. If they were banned for playing the game, exploring, etc without harming anyone else, whats the problem if there aren't any posted rules otherwise? Every server for MC has duping going on even if people try to keep it quiet. Its just quicker to be creative that way.

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                  November 28, 2010 9:06 AM

                  if people want to just do the creative thing, they should go play on a creative server.

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                    November 28, 2010 9:11 AM

                    Clay, people want to play with their friends and experience the PvP aspect of it as well. Tell me you dont drop your tools and pick them back up for full health. Thats called duping. If you dont do this, well then I applaud you. Either way, doesnt hurt anyone else on the server and certainly helps enjoy the game by getting to build and mine a lot quicker than crafting tools all day. Yes?

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                      November 28, 2010 9:12 AM

                      in this case wbechard seems to be against PvP and (I'm guessing) that's what Clay is referring to.

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                      November 28, 2010 9:27 AM

                      lol yeah I do that, but that's not what I'm talking about.

                      The item repair/degrade system is currently retarded anyway.

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                      November 28, 2010 9:28 AM

                      Then why is PVP off in his town? He should just go play on the TNT server, or a creative server, can make TNT all you want.

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                        November 28, 2010 9:33 AM

                        Again, PvP flag only toggles friendly fire, not all PvP. With his PvP flag being off I'd imagine he's only interested in PvE.

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                        November 28, 2010 1:32 PM

                        Some of you guys are just way too concerned with the happenings of our town.

                        I like playing with you guys, and nowhere have any rules been posted of how to play this game, so why is everyone concerned with how we choose to play? We don't have any plans to use duped brick with nefarious intention, so who cares what happens in our town?

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          November 28, 2010 9:15 AM

          to give me the fair opportunity to state my case. I was never warned about TNT until last night after using it once. FOO appeared and said stop with the TNT usage we already told you about duping. which isn't the case i have never had one warning.

          i actually legit made 14 TNT blocks. i set off 2 of them. 1 i even warned ahead of time i would be using.

          FOO somehow had the stat i had 89 accounts of TNT which i have no idea who is even remotely close.

          so to further make the situation even more fun, Damagedone gets banned for me using TNT, i try stating he didn't use TNT Foo goes on a power trip and tells me to stop or i will be banned, i told him off and i was shortly banned afterwards...

          Bechard said it best...everyone in that server dupes, i personally just went to as many chests i could find and stole whatever was in it to use it.

          I used TNT deep down in a mine to help make a tunnel, and Damagedone was banned for it, and then i tried sticking up for him and was banned 37 seconds after

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            November 28, 2010 9:17 AM

            Holeee shit. Good riddance.

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            November 28, 2010 9:19 AM

            So everyone dupes exceot for you, you just steal other people's stuff? Thanks for playing.

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              November 28, 2010 9:26 AM

              i didn't even know how to dupe until last night, so until i was banned no i will be honest i didn't dupe

              i never stole your stuff...our town shares, i went to their chest and took their stuff


              say what you want....people are a making a bigger deal out of this than necessary, its a 15 dollar game with numerous servers, its not the end of the world i am banned from one

              if foo wants to pinpoint me and damagedone for what everyone in that server is doing, fine

              its a bit hypocritical but its life...im over it

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                November 28, 2010 9:30 AM

                Did you steal or didn't you steal?

                "Bechard said it best...everyone in that server dupes, i personally just went to as many chests i could find and stole whatever was in it to use it. "

                I have no say in banning or unbanning but if you honestly admit to stealing other people's stuff in plain sight I don't feel sorry for you and I hope you find a server to play on that suits you better than this one.

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                  November 28, 2010 9:33 AM

                  Well it is a PVP server, and people have tools to guard their stuff with Towny, so really, chests are fair game don't you think?

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                    November 28, 2010 9:35 AM

                    I can't say that it's against the rules but if anyone admitted to stealing my stuff I wouldn't want to play with them. My town is all PvE though and I don't know what town he was stealing from so different values perhaps.

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                      November 28, 2010 9:37 AM

                      Hem, hes talking about our town chests, we dont mind if each other use our materials.

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                        November 28, 2010 9:38 AM

                        His word usage threw me off then

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                          November 28, 2010 9:44 AM

                          Yeah Hemtroll, We've put together resources centrally available for our town, thats what he's been taking from, which wasn't a problem. He wasn't exploring other towns to plunder goods.

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                            November 28, 2010 10:01 AM

                            that's different then, comments withdrawn

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        November 28, 2010 9:08 AM

        Well stated Bechard,

        Furthermore, lets take a step back and realize this is an ALPHA game. Which is already shown that with all the new features coming out sometimes world restarts are a must. I spent MANY hours mining and gathering materials for epic builds in Merc1 (never duping once) until one day its "Oh server reset time, or new server altogether" .. Or even worse, Login and see half my chest ransacked by a looter.

        Anyways, its a game, there is a bug, among many which people exploit. If you want to kick people for duping, you will infact leave yourself with a very small number of users on the server. If you want to play all high and mighty then why not ban the people dropping tools and picking them back up for full health. IS THAT NOT DUPING? Sure is. Also, is it okay for admins to spawn material yet no one else can? Just asking to be fair is all.

        Once again, its game, i think we need to relax a little until a FINAL version is released that addresses these issues. Until then, lets all play together and have fun.

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          November 28, 2010 9:11 AM

          Do you see admins spawning materials instead of mining for them? If you have a compaint then out with it. We're not here to cheat and grief other players, we're here to play the game and try our best to keep it fair for everyone.

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            November 28, 2010 9:12 AM

            Right, pretty much all the admins that I've talked to have been playing the game totally legit since starting on foo1. It's nice to have the 'raw' experience of Survival mode with a few friends :)

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              November 28, 2010 9:16 AM

              Hell, the major towns have such a big mining infrastructure in place, we're up to our eyeballs in materials.

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                November 28, 2010 9:21 AM

                I was going to say, you can probably look at my stats vs BarrowWight's and Arctic's and see that they've placed many more blocks than they've mined. Then look at my numbers and see how much more I've mined than placed.

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                  November 28, 2010 9:22 AM

                  Yeah with all your duped tools, guaranteed.

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                    November 28, 2010 9:23 AM

                    All i'm saying is, dont give others shit for duping material when you do the same tools take material to build, so anyway you try and justify it, its still duping.

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                      November 28, 2010 9:25 AM

                      There's an area of grey between this black and white that you are complaining about

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                        November 28, 2010 9:34 AM

                        I simply call it as I see it, duping is duping. Anyway you wanna try and spin it. One way isnt "right" because you do it.

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                      November 28, 2010 9:33 AM

                      the tool repair thing is pretty standard practice and socially acceptable. In fact, when I first started playing, the first thing I was told was that you could throw/repair you tools.

                      The other dupes are not socially acceptable.

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            November 28, 2010 9:14 AM

            Yeah I do have a problem when I look at the stats and someone like MercFox has placed 26477 and destroyed only 4393 blocks. Hes not the only one, nor do i even care, its just the fact that you guys take the high ground by saying how legit you are meanwhile you do the same shit. Also, do you drop your tool to refresh its health? Be honest.

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              November 28, 2010 9:16 AM

              I've seen you post this argument 3+ times in this subthread already. There is a pretty big fucking difference between repairing a tool and duping 1000000000000 blocks of TNT

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                November 28, 2010 9:20 AM

                Eric really? You want to justify duping a tool vs something else? Not worth my time then.

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              November 28, 2010 9:18 AM

              I'm not taking the high ground, I drop my tools and the only things I've spawned are snowballs to throw at foo, bedrock to smooth out SolveChrist's basement and some blocks when I was testing the command. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying if you have complaints or suggestions then don't hold it in, this server isn't here so us admins can have fun banning and duping, it's here so you guys can have fun playing.

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                November 28, 2010 9:21 AM

                Hem, thats exactly what we're trying to do. I Love playing with you guys, i love the server ... I have NO complaints, other than the fact that two of my real life friends got banned and can no longer play with us. Thats it.

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                November 28, 2010 9:26 AM

                Stop! You mean you can throw snowballs?

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                  November 28, 2010 9:32 AM

                  Indeed you can. In SP you just dig up snow and that makes snowballs, in SMP only admins can spawn it so far and I don't think anyone else can see snowballs you throw, at least that was how it worked when I tried it.

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              November 28, 2010 9:23 AM

              Dude, there's like 15 people in his town. You'll probably find one of them that has mined many more blocks than they have placed... which they then put in the community chests. You have miners, and you have builders.

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                November 28, 2010 11:37 AM

                This. We all contributed shit tons of resources to communal chests to help build up the town. I'm carving a whole mountain into a fortress. I'm up to my ears in cobble that I've dumped in there :p

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        November 28, 2010 9:25 AM

        Bottom line, both of these people need to learn when to keep their mouths shut.

        GriefAlert, how it works:
        GriefAlert doesn't tell you every single time someone breaks a block that we monitor, because if it did, our logs would be full, and the mods would never see the chat console, as the alerts would cover everything up. So, GriefAlert buffers its alerts. It alerts you once per block, per user every 15-20 seconds. So if someone blows off 10 blocks in 5 seconds, we only get alerted once.


        Damaged0ne:
        He has set off 164 TNT alerts. This means he's set off at LEAST 164 TNT blocks. Twice I teleported to him and died due to the explosion, and I could see tons of blocks exploding in sequence. Many, may times (since day one) I've asked him to stop duping TNT. The first time, the response I got was "who cares?". I explained that I want everyone to stay, and have fun. However this is a new world, and we're all trying to do this "right", and "fair". He admitted to duping, apologised, and disposed of the duped TNT (supposedly). Since then, I'd had to warn him repeatedly every single day. He would never respond to my warnings. On top of this, he and Sgt always claimed that "someone else was on his account". Bullshit excuses.

        It all came to a head last night when I saw <unnamed person> blowing off a decent bit of TNT. I teleported to that person, and spoke with him. While talking to this person, and telling him the same thing I told Damaged0ne (new world, let's do this right, etc), Damaged0ne chimed in with something along the lines of "lol its obviously duped he's blown up 89 blocks!". To which I replied "you have no room to talk". His response? "8====D".

        I'd had enough, so I banned him.


        SgtEddieWinslow:
        Never spoke with him much, other than when I was warning Damaged0ne in the past. Always apologetic, seemed a stand up fellow. Until last night, after I banned Damaged0ne. He asked why he was banned, I mentioned the constant failure to listen to my warnings, etc. His response? "fuck you". Bubye.


        Bechard:
        I think you're an honest guy, and I'm sorry that I've had to ban your friends. However, I feel that I was not in the wrong for doing it. I've given them repeated warnings every single day for the last week. I'm done with it. I beg of you to stay with us, and help make New Brickton everything that it can, and should be. You've got a good area there, and you're part of the great nation of Lamperia.


        Everyone else:
        If you're duping, you're duping. The only thing I ask of you is to be honest with myself and the rest of the mods if you're questioned about it. One thing I absolutely can not tolerate is bullshit. I hate it more than anything. I feel that I'm very lenient, and I'm very hard to push to my limits. But there is a limit.

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          November 28, 2010 9:35 AM

          let me clear this up...i tried standing up for damage asking why he was banned when i clearly used the TNT, you then got all defensive saying to stop or i would be banned...

          like really, this is a game, its not real life. im not going into your towns and blowing your shit up or stealing your stuff.. i never went and killed anyone, i never did anything except blow off TNT that i made in a mine that i made. i stood up for a friend and i get banned.

          you think foo that maybe foo you take this a bit too seriously? obviously people will be pissed off when their friend is banned because of something you did.

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            November 28, 2010 9:37 AM

            maybe you guys should start your own server and STFU

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            November 28, 2010 9:38 AM

            to to just end this as i hate drama just as much as everyone else.

            I am not asking to be let back in the server...i could care less, its a game...it cost me 15 bucks...if i never play it again big deal. sooner or later it will come when the novelty of this will wear off anyways.

            so whole argument as to why damagedone and myself were banned can end.

            other issues of that server may continue

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            November 28, 2010 9:42 AM

            May I suggest: Haxim (TNT Server) : asplode.dyndns.org / haxim.shkn.ws

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            November 28, 2010 9:51 AM

            i gladly welcome you guys to my server. have FUN! it's a game.

          • foo
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            November 28, 2010 10:29 AM

            No, let me clear this up. Your guilty concience got the best of you. I wasn't even talking to you, I was talking to someone else. See the second log. Oh, and that was a nice stack of 63 TNT we found in your chest last night. Plus the 13 you had in your inventory when I banned you.

            -- a few days ago --

            2010-11-26 21:58:30 [INFO] <foomanjee> Poedell, reel your friend in, or you're both gone
            2010-11-26 21:58:44 [INFO] <Poedell> listen, my friend was playing last night, hes not playing now.
            2010-11-26 21:58:48 [INFO] <Poedell> thats really damaged0ne
            2010-11-26 21:58:53 [INFO] <Poedell> last night was not.
            2010-11-26 21:58:54 [INFO] <foomanjee> you, listen, you've got a fuckton of duped TNT down there
            2010-11-26 21:59:04 [INFO] <Poedell> down where?
            2010-11-26 21:59:05 [INFO] <foomanjee> i told you i didn't like that, you apologized, and still blew off TNT for the last 24 hours straight
            2010-11-26 21:59:13 [INFO] <Poedell> ?
            2010-11-26 21:59:28 [INFO] <Damaged0ne> ok lets build some stuff
            2010-11-26 21:59:29 [INFO] <Poedell> i havent blown on a single piece of tnt since you said something last night dude..
            2010-11-26 21:59:32 [INFO] <Poedell> i'm not trying to start trouble
            2010-11-26 21:59:57 [INFO] <foomanjee> i understand that, and i want you guys to stay, but this is a new, fresh world
            2010-11-26 22:00:14 [INFO] <foomanjee> i don't want the same old problems we used to have
            2010-11-26 22:00:14 [INFO] <Poedell> i understand, and i've explained that to my friends, they said they would stop using tnt
            2010-11-26 22:00:24 [INFO] <Damaged0ne> yep im just building stuff from now on
            2010-11-26 22:00:24 [INFO] <Poedell> which they have as far as i know
            2010-11-26 22:00:31 [INFO] <foomanjee> i have no problem with using legitimate TNT, but this duped shit has got to stop
            2010-11-26 22:00:41 [INFO] <foomanjee> Damaged0ne has literally been blowing up duped TNT for 24 hours straight
            2010-11-26 22:00:55 [INFO] <Poedell> yes, and i've told him to stop.. which hes said no problem
            2010-11-26 22:01:16 [INFO] <Poedell> nixxer, i agree.. and i was only showing him the game
            2010-11-26 22:01:17 [INFO] <Damaged0ne> welp its in the community bin now some grab some
            2010-11-26 22:01:45 [INFO] <foomanjee> do you want to know how many times Damaged0ne has set off our alerts with TNT?
            2010-11-26 22:01:47 [INFO] <foomanjee> 131
            2010-11-26 22:01:50 [INFO] <foomanjee> one hundred and thirty one times
            2010-11-26 22:01:53 [INFO] <foomanjee> in not even 24 hours
            2010-11-26 22:02:04 [INFO] <foomanjee> that's all i'll say
            2010-11-26 22:02:07 [INFO] <foomanjee> it's duped
            2010-11-26 22:02:12 [INFO] <foomanjee> so, now, listen
            2010-11-26 22:02:17 [INFO] <foomanjee> this is your LAST and FINAL warning
            2010-11-26 22:02:20 [INFO] <foomanjee> pull that shit again, and you're all gone
            2010-11-26 22:02:24 [INFO] <Poedell> yes, they were clearing a cave, not doing anything harmful
            2010-11-26 22:02:28 [INFO] <foomanjee> i don't care
            2010-11-26 22:02:29 [INFO] <foomanjee> it's fucking duped
            2010-11-26 22:02:32 [INFO] <foomanjee> i am not mercfox
            2010-11-26 22:02:40 [INFO] <foomanjee> i am far less lenient than he is
            2010-11-26 22:03:00 [INFO] <Poedell> I understand
            2010-11-26 22:03:10 [INFO] <foomanjee> please, have fun, and don't be cheap
            2010-11-26 22:04:12 [INFO] <Poedell> just so you know, half the people in this server dupe stuff.. so please dont take offense
            2010-11-26 22:04:32 [INFO] <Damaged0ne> free tnt
            2010-11-26 22:04:41 [INFO] <foomanjee> no, not free tnt
            2010-11-26 22:04:43 [INFO] <Poedell> nixxer, dont be silly.. i know of 10 people
            2010-11-26 22:04:58 [INFO] <Poedell> look at the map, dude has brick cabin already
            2010-11-26 22:05:07 [INFO] <Poedell> no really, they're not.. not even in my town
            2010-11-26 22:05:21 [INFO] <foomanjee> if you guys have that duped TNT, go walk out to an ocean somewhere and drop it in the water

            -- last night --

            2010-11-27 21:47:06 [INFO] foomanjee teleported to innocent
            2010-11-27 21:47:31 [INFO] <foomanjee> so, where's the TNT?
            2010-11-27 21:47:40 [INFO] Vividvoid teleported to innocent
            2010-11-27 21:47:40 [INFO] <innocent> huh?
            2010-11-27 21:47:50 [INFO] <foomanjee> the few hundred bricks of TNT you've blown off in the past 2 days
            2010-11-27 21:47:58 [INFO] <SgtEddieWinslow> i just used one a couple mins back...i only have 14...so im saving
            2010-11-27 21:47:58 [INFO] <innocent> i have not
            2010-11-27 21:48:07 [INFO] <foomanjee> okay, number one: don't bullshit me
            2010-11-27 21:48:12 [INFO] <foomanjee> number two: where's the TNT
            2010-11-27 21:48:17 [INFO] <innocent> foo i just joined today
            2010-11-27 21:48:26 [INFO] <innocent> i had a little b4 but no more
            2010-11-27 21:48:35 [INFO] <innocent> im not kidding
            2010-11-27 21:48:37 [INFO] <SgtEddieWinslow> number one...im serious...right now i have 13 left...number two...i don't know
            2010-11-27 21:48:45 [INFO] <foomanjee> you've set off 89 TNT alerts today
            2010-11-27 21:48:52 [INFO] <innocent> what?
            2010-11-27 21:48:58 [INFO] <sauerkrauser> lol not you innocent
            2010-11-27 21:49:05 [INFO] <foomanjee> yes, innocent
            2010-11-27 21:49:09 [INFO] <sauerkrauser> oh O_o
            2010-11-27 21:49:13 [INFO] Damaged0ne [/24.57.123.113:49856] logged in with entity id 524638
            2010-11-27 21:49:17 [INFO] <SgtEddieWinslow> i just started playing today?
            2010-11-27 21:49:18 [INFO] Vividvoid teleported to Damaged0ne
            2010-11-27 21:49:30 [INFO] <Damaged0ne> 89 damn
            2010-11-27 21:49:32 [INFO] <innocent> i had like 20
            2010-11-27 21:49:37 [INFO] <foomanjee> Damaged, you have no room to talk
            2010-11-27 21:49:47 [INFO] <Damaged0ne> ok
            2010-11-27 21:49:49 [INFO] <foomanjee> you've set off 164
            2010-11-27 21:50:00 [INFO] <Damaged0ne> :O
            2010-11-27 21:50:02 [INFO] <foomanjee> so, here's the thing
            2010-11-27 21:50:15 [INFO] <Damaged0ne> 8====D
            2010-11-27 21:50:20 [INFO] Banning Damaged0ne
            2010-11-27 21:50:24 [INFO] <foomanjee> goodbye damaged0ne
            2010-11-27 21:50:24 [INFO] <SgtEddieWinslow> ok i honestly don't get how you have 89 tnt events from me today...i just started playing right
            now
            2010-11-27 21:50:38 [INFO] <foomanjee> anyway, as i was saying
            2010-11-27 21:50:46 [INFO] <innocent> foo i really dont have any more and i didnt know i wasnt supposed to set it off
            2010-11-27 21:50:51 [INFO] <SgtEddieWinslow> why is he banned? i was using tnt? not him?
            2010-11-27 21:50:58 [INFO] <foomanjee> I have no problem with legitimate TNT use. But please, this is a new server
            2010-11-27 21:51:02 [INFO] <foomanjee> let's try to do this right
            2010-11-27 21:51:09 [INFO] <foomanjee> if it's legit, then it's legit, and i apologize
            2010-11-27 21:51:18 [INFO] <foomanjee> if it's not, be honest with me and cool it
            2010-11-27 21:51:33 [INFO] <foomanjee> anyway, be safe, have fun
            2010-11-27 21:51:35 [INFO] <innocent> i died and it duped but i dont have anymore
            2010-11-27 21:51:37 [INFO] <SgtEddieWinslow> ok im being honest....i have legit TNT...so im using it...i have 13 left
            2010-11-27 21:51:50 [INFO] <SgtEddieWinslow> but to ban damagedone? he didn't use any down here with me?
            2010-11-27 21:51:58 [INFO] <foomanjee> Sgt: don't.
            2010-11-27 21:52:04 [INFO] <SgtEddieWinslow> fuck you...
            2010-11-27 21:52:08 [INFO] Banning SgtEddieWinslow

            • foo
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              November 28, 2010 10:32 AM

              [djr@box griefAlertLogs]$ grep Damaged * | grep tnt | wc -l
              164
              [djr@box griefAlertLogs]$ grep Poedell * | grep tnt | wc -l
              52
              [djr@box griefAlertLogs]$ grep Sgt * | grep tnt | wc -l
              28

              Damaged0ne has set off 164 TNT alerts
              Poedell has set off 52 TNT alerts
              SgtEddie has set off 28 TNT alerts

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          November 28, 2010 9:42 AM

          Foo,

          I appreciate your comments regarding the situation. I can't say much about Eddie's lack of restraint in his comments, other than as I said a moment of rage.

          I am an honest guy and will be straight up with you as I am with anyone else. That being said, DamageOne did really have Poedell's friend on his account that first night when the mass amounts of TNT were originally used, and blew you up. This is completely accurate as Poedell was showing the game off to his friend and his brother (Damaged0ne) let Poedell's buddy use his account for the night.

          I will be completely honest here, after building and mining materials on MercFox's server and being told it was going to be reset, the town of NewBrickton will most certainly be a mecca of duped materials. I don't see why we would need TNT, but if the need arrises, I'll ask that anyone mention it in chat, and only use one or two, not 164 in 2 minutes. TNT is a viable construction (mining) tool.

          If duping is ever fixed in SMP, we'll go back to the regular approach. The fact is that with work, and a family with a 1 year old, I don't have the time and patience to mine out everything AGAIN. Duping needs to happen for me or I'd never be able to get anything built. Just wanted to be clear about that. This game for me is about being creative and having a good time with a fun group of people.

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            November 28, 2010 10:27 AM

            Dude, get the fuck out of here. Most of us have obligations such as jobs or family. If you don't have time to play right stick to single player.

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              November 28, 2010 1:26 PM

              Stay classy dude.

              No need to get upset, we're all here to have fun. Playing Minecraft isn't a career, so relax. Plenty of server wipes down the road as we move to beta and to release in all likeliness.

              I'm trying to be honest and constructive and your response is right there on troll level.

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        November 28, 2010 10:21 AM

        Duping is lame bullshit.

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          November 28, 2010 1:27 PM

          Guess you had better stick to single player if you don't want to be around duping. Apparently its happening everywhere.

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      November 28, 2010 8:52 AM

      Foo - You should run this
      http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1012&t=84401

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      November 28, 2010 9:28 AM

      Was kind of surprised to see how big the minecraft thread got, until I realized it's 75% drama.

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        November 28, 2010 9:30 AM

        you suck at percentages

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        November 28, 2010 9:31 AM

        Oh come on now, it's about 15 % drama this time. Not even close to those really bad ones we had.

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          November 28, 2010 9:39 AM

          ::remembers how he was supposed to get banned for the obsidian portal tower......but only after he finished the Enterprise::

          Oh shit....

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        November 28, 2010 9:36 AM

        On the bright side, reading through the thread reminded me that I can drop tools to repair them! I keep forgetting this, which has lead me to a playstyle revolving around hundreds of broken stone tools and a lot of squat, ugly looking houses.

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        November 28, 2010 9:49 AM

        We had a pretty big one earlier in the week

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        November 28, 2010 9:52 AM

        AgentPothead you are 100% pure entertainment!

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      November 28, 2010 10:02 AM

      PVP discussion!

      Seems there is some confusion about what PVP means right now.

      On foo1, with Towny, things are interesting. You have tools to protect yourself and your items, so do it. If your town isn't protected it's your fault, and anything that is lost (stolen), burned, destroyed, whatever, should not be restored by an admin (unless it was lost due to a bug).

      By protecting your town I mean multiple things. Towny has a command that prevents people that aren't in your town from destroying/placing blocks, and pretty sure it blocks them from opening doors. With that and some good planning you and your chests should be safe.

      PVP is on, and some people are actively attacking players. That's cool, although it'd be more fun if we did a little role playing, instead of just a silent hit-and-run heh.

      We need admins to put more signs at spawn warning players of the PVP aspect, and maybe keep a nice chest inside stocked with some stone tools and sword so people that get PKed can fight back a little.

      Minecraft itself has some major problems with PVP too. Being able to see player names, no health bars, lag, bows being weird, arrow duping (once bows work), and so on.

      Protect your chests.
      Watch your back, people might attack you.

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        November 28, 2010 10:04 AM

        all you need to know is, my server is FULL non-consensual PvP

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          November 28, 2010 10:05 AM

          No Towny right?

          I kinda like it.

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            November 28, 2010 10:21 AM

            soon to have towny...

            morfus is cool shit, server is running pretty good so far

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        November 28, 2010 10:07 AM

        Well said, I've changed our welcome message to reflect the fact that we will kill you if we so choose.

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        November 28, 2010 10:07 AM

        Personally, I think foo1 is kinda messed up. Too many Notch bugs, for one thing.

        I hope eventually we can start a 'hardcore' server, with no renders (as mentioned above), and less bugs. The arrow dupe thing is kinda bad.

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          November 28, 2010 10:09 AM

          m0rfus (PvP/mobs/no renders) : morfus.dyndns.org / morfus.shkn.ws

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          November 28, 2010 10:24 AM

          i already have the [hardcore] server.

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        November 28, 2010 10:11 AM

        Funny PVP story!

        I'm wandering kinda near spawn, checking out the minecart stuff near New Brickton. I see some stuff on the ground, pick it up, and ask. Seems nodebug had gotten PKed, cool. So I return his stuff, and go back on my way.

        A minute or two later I find more stuff on the ground, this time some diamond items. I ask again, and the dead person was nodebugs killer! So I give the diamond items to him. :)

        Fin.

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          November 28, 2010 10:21 AM

          LOL i killed myself on purpose to give him all my diamond goods nixx. I'm not that mean

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            November 28, 2010 10:31 AM

            :) I guess I need to affiliate myself with a town then to avoid getting randomly killed?

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        November 28, 2010 10:26 AM

        Just to clarify, foo1 is NOT a 100% full PvP hardcore grief everyone server. Full list of rules forthcoming, don't burn anything down until then please!

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          November 28, 2010 10:39 AM

          But you *can't* grief anyone, since everyone can turn protection on.

          The only way anyone's shit is going to get burned is if they don't turn on protection.

          What we really need to do is create two tiny test nations, put them at war, and see if that lets you break blocks/burn shit.

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            November 28, 2010 10:41 AM

            I meant you can't endlessly stalk someone as soon as they log in and kill them over and over again or something to that effect.

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              November 28, 2010 10:44 AM

              Yeah, really, that's not fun.

              I think I killed one person...we kinda ganged up on him, but we thought he attacked first. Turns it out was probably a skeleton archer. Heh. Pretty sure we helped him afterwards.

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              November 28, 2010 10:58 AM

              Oh yeah, that'd be a dick move.

              Still, I really think we need to figure out exactly how all this war shit works before we go formally declaring one.

              Also, do bows not work at all against players?

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            November 28, 2010 11:29 AM

            Well, towny is buggy and many of the protections were lost in the latest hey0 update. For instance, the door's are not suppose to open for non-town residents; however, unless you're a new player, you can almost always open a door or use redstone (which, btw, you aren't suppose to be able to use either if you aren't a resident) to open the door.

            I'm also not sure to what extent the protection goes, working or not. I haven't tried, but I'm not sure if towny prevents fires from being placed.

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              November 28, 2010 11:30 AM

              You wouldn't be able to tell anyway Vivid. Admins can modify blocks anywhere.

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                November 28, 2010 11:38 AM

                Yeah, I know. I've been helping Shadeness (the creator of towny) test out the latest towny. AFAIK, he hasn't gotten the doors to open only for residents, and fire can still be an issue.

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              November 28, 2010 6:48 PM

              easy to make a door that can't be opened with redstone, so that method of ingress at least can be dealt with

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        November 28, 2010 11:11 AM

        Tip: Don't put chests next to doors. Even if someone can't enter, they can still reach the chest. Heh.

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        November 28, 2010 11:15 AM

        foo1 PvP rules!

        Here's what's up. We want everyone to have fun playing here and as such there has to be some rules.

        1. PvP in towns is up to the mayor of that town. If the PvP flag is off, don't attack anyone within the limits.

        2. PvP in Spawn is 100% forbidden. Don't even think about it.

        3. Wilderness is PvP territory. You might get attacked, don't walk out unprepared.

        4. Block/building destruction during wartime is to be agree upon by leaders of both towns/nations before the war starts. This goes both ways, don't break shit unless everyone is ok with it.

        5. Don't be a cockbarge. If you kill someone, don't go stand right outside spawn waiting for them to come out so you can gank them again.

        Any questions?

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          November 28, 2010 11:17 AM

          1: I thought the PVP flag only toggled friendly fire?

          What about (unguarded) chests?

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            November 28, 2010 11:20 AM

            The PvP flag only toggles friendly fire but you can easily find out if a town has PvP on or off so don't attack anyone in PvE cities. Chests fall outside PvP but I'll get back to you on that.

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            November 28, 2010 11:25 AM

            re: chests, if you put them in a building behind an iron door I don't think that anyone else will be able to steal from them, due to the block protection put in place in cities

          • foo
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            November 28, 2010 11:41 AM

            PVP flag is broken apparently, it does 100% of nothing

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          November 28, 2010 11:26 AM

          sooooo many rules.

          • foo
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            November 28, 2010 11:42 AM

            Half of the rules won't mean anything once the Towny PVP flag and protection flags work properly. Then the PVP will just happen naturally and it won't be a problem

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          November 28, 2010 11:29 AM

          addendum For those that just want to have a PvE game -- like singleplayer, with friends -- I'm going to make a Nation called Switzerland, North of spawn. Come join our fine nation, and you don't have to worry about being caught in the crossfire between the warring brigands in the south.

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            November 28, 2010 11:36 AM

            The people of Epic Mount pledge loyalty to your cause!

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              November 28, 2010 2:34 PM

              As a carebear, it would appear I found a good town to call home.

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          November 28, 2010 12:36 PM

          Can we get an admin to put up signs at spawn with these rules, and some chests with basic equipment?

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            November 28, 2010 12:37 PM

            Nevermind, I should check before posting. I haven't been to spawn recently, guess it's been done. Thanks whoever (Merc?).

            • foo
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              November 28, 2010 12:45 PM

              I did it after seeing this post

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        November 28, 2010 12:26 PM

        Other PVP problems: /getpos, /spawn, and /home.

        Does protection stop people from doing /sethome in your town? If not, if someone gets into a base somehow, they could /sethome there in preparation for future raids.

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          November 28, 2010 12:29 PM

          this is true because multisync's digging has reached into Skullville and New Navcom's mineshafts, so there could be some serious side effects.

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      November 28, 2010 10:40 AM

      Anyone wanting to play PvE -- Head over to Shadowdane's Server... figured with 2 PvP servers we don't need a third.

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      November 28, 2010 11:21 AM

      Server Update:
      * newest hMod
      * newest Towny
      * newest Stargate
      * all verified working

      LINKs:

      - Towny Commands -- http://sites.google.com/site/townymod/home/commands
      - Stargate Commands -- http://forum.hey0.net/showthread.php?tid=799&highlight=Stargate

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      November 28, 2010 11:43 AM

      The Kingdom of Lamperia has crumbled!

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        November 28, 2010 11:44 AM

        Panasia is the victor! Good has triumphed!

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        November 28, 2010 11:44 AM

        The towns are still there if you want to mess with them, but the extensiveness of each kingdom, Lamperia and Panisia included, has made Towny stupid.

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          November 28, 2010 11:45 AM

          yeah, i agree.

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            November 28, 2010 11:46 AM

            I'm going west and claiming a town well outside of everyone else's sphere of influence.. SolrFlare is in charge of Lamperia now.

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              November 28, 2010 8:37 PM

              O.o I wha? Lol great, I'm abandoned :P

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          November 28, 2010 11:46 AM

          Well, it at least makes nice neat geographical borders on the map. You can set up alliance with everybody if you think it's bullshit.

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          November 28, 2010 11:46 AM

          The King has grown weary of day-to-day existence! What will tomorrow bring? Who knows? Huzzah for change!

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          November 28, 2010 11:47 AM

          Yeah, I mentioned that a couple days ago. With the regen, and the huge nations, it's kinda crazy.

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            November 28, 2010 11:49 AM

            If only he could turn down the regen a good bit. Right now I don't see why anyone would attack another city with the defenders being not only fortified but also invincible.

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              November 28, 2010 11:53 AM

              I don't know, have you tried killing two zombies that just don't die? Your health drops fairly quickly. Of course, I don't wear armor because I don't want to get bugged out if I die.

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                November 28, 2010 12:01 PM

                Yes but I would imagine fighting players would be different unless they just run straight at you until one of you dies. Also with food to supplement regen it might be pretty hard trying to attack a city and make any significant gains unless you outnumber the enemy by a lot.

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                  November 28, 2010 12:03 PM

                  regen should be something as simple as only when standing still and you've performed no actions in the past 30 seconds

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      November 28, 2010 11:43 AM

      What is going on? Heh.

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        November 28, 2010 11:44 AM

        The Traitor King crushed his own people and took our server with him!

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          November 28, 2010 11:45 AM

          There are no traitors but you and noxiousgg

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            November 28, 2010 11:46 AM

            how am I a traitor?

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              November 28, 2010 11:49 AM

              MY RIGHT HAND MAN ON MERC1, MY SHERIFF, MY CAN PICKER UPPER...

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                November 28, 2010 11:52 AM

                Times change NerfBlox. Worlds are shaken in cataclysmic events, technologies are lost and discovered, people build their houses on other people's plots, the usual stuff.

                also I recruited two friends and we don't want to PvP so :o

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            November 28, 2010 2:45 PM

            You destroyed my tower because I had the audacity to build it on an unmarked part of land. I think I had reason enough to find a more welcoming place to build. And now, to add insult to injury, you're abandoning Lamperia without having ever built anything in place of my tower. Thanks for razing my work for absolutely nothing.

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              November 28, 2010 3:05 PM

              Ouch...

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              November 28, 2010 4:05 PM

              I offered to move it, and reimburse you for materials, but you just left. That's fine. Honestly, you've caused enough trouble for me over various server iterations, so I don't care.

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                November 28, 2010 4:18 PM

                In no iteration have I ever built on a plot that was designated for anything prior to my efforts, and despite the fact that I am well traveled and build in almost every city, no one else has ever been anything but appreciative and welcoming of my efforts.

                And yes, you offered to move it, but you're missing the point. You started razing the tower before even bothering to find out who built it. It is that complete lack of respect for the work of someone else that made me decide to find a new place to build.

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                  November 28, 2010 8:41 PM

                  Gotta agree with noxiousgg on this one. I didn't get permission to throw up that lighthouse and it was left to stand.

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        November 28, 2010 11:47 AM

        Can't connect :(

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      November 28, 2010 11:44 AM

      foo1 just die?

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      November 28, 2010 11:44 AM

      MercFox1 just canceled his nation of Lamperia.

      Also, the server is down. :[

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      November 28, 2010 11:44 AM

      MercFox1 just disbanded Lamperia and the server crashed in sadness.

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      November 28, 2010 11:51 AM

      Good one Merc! I'm going to get some food. We are victorious!

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        November 28, 2010 12:06 PM

        They quit out of fear of their all wooden kingdome, didnt even get to light 1 match ... sigh

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      November 28, 2010 12:05 PM

      somebody explain how the agent pothead circle maker works?

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        November 28, 2010 3:16 PM

        @clay set your z to x/y ratio to 1 and then put in whatever diameter you want your circle.
        Then the layer is what level your on.

        @saurkrauser sorry for being a abrupt on the pvp server, its in character and your in a non friendly nation. If you want to know how to do locks I can show you on the shackeast server. Otherwise someone from your nation should show you.

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          November 28, 2010 3:34 PM

          oh would the layer show you how to make a globe?

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      November 28, 2010 12:12 PM

      Merc, I hope you met with all of the town leaders in your nation and got a majority vote before you made such a huge decision. Otherwise that would be a dictatorship, you wouldn't see such a thing happen in Panasia... :P

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      November 28, 2010 12:14 PM

      TroZTown is doing ok. We have a few residents. We have a train station that goes from the top of the hill to the bottom of the hill. I would like to extend it, but I need more iron.

      However, our nation was disbanded.

      We are located here:
      http://foo1.shkn.ws/~djr/mc/gmap/index.html?x=680&y=93&z=813&zoom=7

      I would like to hook the tracks up to the tracks at Lamperia or Watcher's World, if they still exist (the render is several days out of date). I was think of going across the island to the east and then north. If both of those locations form a new Nation, I would be convenient to also be part of that nation.

      Anyone know what happens to a town that had residents leave and so no longer has enough residents to support the number of claimed blocks?
      Anyone know the size of a block? It seems larger than a chunk.

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      November 28, 2010 2:03 PM

      foo1 confirmed: SNOWBALLS ACTIVE

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      November 28, 2010 2:51 PM

      Shadowdane: Chopping down Trees can also drop Apples now! :D

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      November 28, 2010 2:59 PM

      I'm probably dumb, but has anyone else had problems installing Misa's 64 texture pack? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=73861

      I follow the instructions to the letter, game hangs on the updating screen (despite being fully updated).

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        November 28, 2010 3:00 PM

        http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24629456#itemanchor_24629456 that and replies. Short story, she needs to update her directions

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          November 28, 2010 3:02 PM

          Thanks, will try that now

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            November 28, 2010 3:07 PM

            Now Minecraft loads to a black screen and stops responding >:(

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        November 28, 2010 3:04 PM

        It works for me you just need 1.9 patcher man
        http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?t=46173
        What I did
        deleted minecraft bin
        fresh minecraft download
        ran patcher and installed texturepack from patcher
        ....
        profit

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          November 28, 2010 3:06 PM

          I'm running that patcher, and that's exactly what I did, no dice

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            November 28, 2010 3:09 PM

            dunno what to say. I ran the patcher, then copied in her files and am running it fine.

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              November 28, 2010 3:13 PM

              which is to say I did not use the patcher to apply her pack, just the 64x64 fixes. i used 7zip (or winrar) to apply her texture pack.

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        November 28, 2010 3:09 PM

        Brown and Bloom is better

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          November 28, 2010 3:11 PM

          I like B+B, thought I'd check this one out for a change, if not, back to B+B

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            November 28, 2010 3:16 PM

            AF, my patched jar: http://www.sendspace.com/file/wchtgh
            so you can try it out at least

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              November 28, 2010 3:19 PM

              Yeah that no worky either. Nor does Brown and Bloom now. I think I just have a general problem with the patcher that I'm doing wrong.

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                November 28, 2010 3:23 PM

                :-/ should just be able to dump that jar in your bin folder and go (no further patching needed). Fresh bin?

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                  November 28, 2010 3:24 PM

                  and just to be clear that bin replaces appdata/.minecraft/bin/minecraft.jar , not the launcher you download from minecraft.net with the identical filename

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                    November 28, 2010 3:25 PM

                    Yeah that's the one I'm replacing. I don't know why it's failing :(

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                  November 28, 2010 3:25 PM

                  I deleted the bin folder, loaded minecraft to get the newest files, closed minecraft, dropped your .jar file in there.

                  Black screen on load, hangs.

                  Back to painterly I guess...

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      November 28, 2010 3:35 PM

      single player was fun for a few days but now i'm bored with it. i've got a tree farm and a wheat farm and my compound is secure from monsters. i have a few paintings, i have a bow and a ton of arrows. now what? i'm playing on Hard difficulty

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        November 28, 2010 3:39 PM

        foo1, that's what

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      November 28, 2010 3:55 PM

      i tried foo1 but i can't do SHIT anywhere. it always says i am in someone else's city zone. i can't chop down a tree or mine anything. i seriously walked around for 30 minutes and never found a spot where i could mine.

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      November 28, 2010 4:04 PM

      North Korea has declared WAR!!! (Against everyone)
      Details :

      We will be all identified by our Kim Jong Il Skins : http://www.minecraft.net/skin/skin.jsp?user=Kelbane
      We will restrict our weapons to appropriate supplies i.e. wood or stone only. (subject to effectiveness)
      We will not participate in duping.
      We will not destroy enemies buildings or steal supplies. (minor damage may occur to gain entry)
      If we kill any individual we will not keep valueable items from their inventory (diamonds, etc)
      All other supplies will be left at the site of death.

      I realize north korea might be a minor annoyance at best.
      If ever becomes unfun for players on the server, north korea will accept pressure from china (foo) to postpone attacks.

      WAR BEGINS TONIGHT!!
      (Please realize above rules are to keep this whole idea fun and somewhat in character.)

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      November 28, 2010 4:06 PM

      The nation of Switzerland has been started in the north. Those of you who wish to join this peaceful nation (PvE only), come chat to me.

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        November 28, 2010 4:09 PM

        you have a bank yet?

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        November 28, 2010 4:11 PM

        There's a pimping vault in Endor... but I can't tell you where it is :P

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          November 28, 2010 4:11 PM

          bah meant to be in reply to Amika

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            November 28, 2010 4:17 PM

            Rule 1: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB
            Rule 2: YOU DO NOT TALK ABOUT FIGHT CLUB

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              November 28, 2010 4:17 PM

              Hullo, my newly Swiss friend!

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              November 28, 2010 4:20 PM

              also, if anyone found and got into our vault, I designed it so it would all show up on the logs ;)

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                November 28, 2010 4:22 PM

                Excellent.

                BTW, did you poop snow everywhere in Endor?

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                  November 28, 2010 4:23 PM

                  Yeah, that was me.

                  The random fire lighting on the way to the greenhouse was all BarrowWight, however

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      November 28, 2010 5:26 PM

      QUESTION TIME

      How do mini-games on the foo1 server sound? Something like capture the flag or kind of the hill type games. We could even have prizes, like diamond stuff or golden apples.

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      November 28, 2010 5:47 PM

      welp just fell off something while working on it, crashed, came back and my stuff was gone. super fun. I'd expect that on the PvE and PvP servers but on the carebear server? D:

      Oh well, few tree punchings later and back in business, and have extra stuff back /home when I go there.

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        November 28, 2010 5:57 PM

        Use shift.

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          November 28, 2010 6:00 PM

          Use shift more often. (then you'll realize it doesn't always work.)

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            November 28, 2010 6:05 PM

            It works almost enough. That's why I also have safety water under most of my very tall constructions.

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          November 28, 2010 6:00 PM

          wow I never knew about this key tell me more

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            November 28, 2010 6:11 PM

            Hold it down and you won't fall off an edge.

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              November 28, 2010 6:13 PM

              and what does right click do? People keep mentioning that I'm sure it's useful somehow

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                November 28, 2010 6:20 PM

                So you have a left mouse button, now take the joy of clicking it, and multiply it by 100. That's right, 100. The upon using the right click, your brain releases 100 times as many endorphens are as when you click the left mouse button. Many computer users have switched OSs to quit cold turkey from the right click, even then, they still succumb to the power, but then use the perverted and much more potent control + left click.

                Winners don't right click.

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      November 28, 2010 5:56 PM

      Grrr, as a member of the Lamperia nation, but owning my own town, I can't open doors again. Help? Overlook is the town.

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      November 28, 2010 6:01 PM

      I died.. sort of.. but I didn't. And now I can't pick up anything? Whats wrong? :/

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      November 28, 2010 6:13 PM

      MEN of ENDOR v2

      Our perimeter fences keep getting blown up by silent creepers. I'm trying out an experiment involving double fences but wanted to discuss alternatives. How do y'all feel about a moat?

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        November 28, 2010 6:28 PM

        I'm cool with a moat, however it'll be a pain in the ass to move every time the town expands...

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          November 28, 2010 8:00 PM

          I aggree with a moat and agree of expansion difficulty.

          I was thinking of making a larger boundary around the coast line, starting from the outside then working my way inside with torches. But I was going to put them on a raised block so as not to melt all of the ice.

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            November 28, 2010 9:16 PM

            I built a concept moat near the most troublesome spot, but I guess you guys are correct on expansion dificulty

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              November 28, 2010 9:40 PM

              We just went and claimed most of the land afforded to us by our 5 residents. We have a huuuuuuuge space to build in.

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        November 28, 2010 9:00 PM

        How is it getting blown up? Just build a wall 2 blocks high and dont' fight creeprs while standing on it. They wont blow up if your'e just on the otehr side.

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      November 28, 2010 6:15 PM

      Saw a pig drown tonight. Damndest thing...

      He was swimming in the ocean near the shore, where the ocean was draining into an underground cavern. The water flow drug him under, and he got stuck on a ledge. He just stood there, trapped, until he drowned. :(

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        November 28, 2010 6:16 PM

        Someone call PETA. This man is a murder!

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      November 28, 2010 6:18 PM

      How to read the Towny map: http://www.shackpics.com/files/TownyMap1_c79s3frgfs0co95qy9j3.jpg

      I am the orange dash in center. -

      Unclaimed land is a grey dash.

      My home town is light green pluses. +

      Other towns in my nation are dark green pluses. +

      Unknown/neutral (?) towns are white pluses.

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      November 28, 2010 6:46 PM

      Paging Arctic_Fox, VincentGrayson wants to join our town

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      November 28, 2010 6:53 PM

      weevul

      Shame, shame...

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        November 28, 2010 7:21 PM

        MercFox1 Bomb Squad took care of business!

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        November 28, 2010 7:21 PM

        Aw shit foo i just found out. Been AFK and came back to banned. I didn't realize that duping was a no-no on the new server.

        I'm not gonna pitch a fit about it because I broke the rules, but if you let me back in I'll destroy all that if it wasn't already and I'll be good. Sorry about that. If not, I understand.

        Sorry if I caused any major trouble, I'm not real sure what went down.

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          November 28, 2010 7:39 PM

          Mostly lol-tas-tic-ness.

          We figured you didn't know about the rule. As long as you don't dupe again murray and I still want you in our town.

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            November 28, 2010 7:45 PM

            Yeah I was just assing around... I never intended to do any griefing. With some of the stuff I've seen built I figured it was ok as long as you weren't being a dick about it, as was the case on shackeast. I swear to be good if foo will ever let me back in, and apologize to the other folks in my town.

            I really wasn't trying to be a dick. I had no idea!

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      November 28, 2010 6:57 PM

      Are Chicken Fur & Haxim's servers offline? Can't connect to either of them.

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      November 28, 2010 7:22 PM

      Panisia Penal - Now Open for Prisoners Tourists!

      You can check in but you cant check out!

      http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=prison1_kbj8vp0ox9exruq4h2cz.jpg

      http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=prison2_k6u98hm5qydxa1bshwm1.jpg

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      November 28, 2010 7:55 PM

      The nation of North Korea has fallen to the might of Panisia.

      Kelbane, that was fun. Thank you.

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        November 28, 2010 7:59 PM

        We will rise again!!

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        November 28, 2010 8:02 PM

        I should have taken screenshots, there were people everywhere!!

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      November 28, 2010 8:01 PM

      foo1 server stats: http://foo1.shkn.ws/~djr/mc/stats/

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      November 28, 2010 8:14 PM

      Shadowdane's Server

      Alright things have really been quite on my server the past 1-2 weeks or so... thinking might be best to reset things here. Would be nice to have a fresh start and get some new people on the server.

      World Reset Vote: http://tinyurl.com/ShackDC-Reset
      Voting will end on: 11/30/2010

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        November 28, 2010 8:37 PM

        Please get your votes in if you play on my server!! Thanks!

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        November 28, 2010 9:00 PM

        What mods and things do you use?

        Could you do something like one of the biome generation mods when you remake? There is one that works in SMP I think.

        On a PVE server does everyone really work together, no weird stuff? PVP servers bring out the competitive nature of some people, does a PVE server make everyone cooperate nicely?

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          November 28, 2010 9:06 PM

          Biome Generator Mods? You have a link?

          Currently only had maybe ~2-3 people on at most since SMP Health came out... usually only see maybe 1 person online. :( But yah that is the idea to work together and fuck up monsters. When we've gotten together to work on something we've played nicely and tried to cooperate.

          I'm open to other mods... only use LeafDropper right now. Been thinking of adding Stargate mod though.

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        November 28, 2010 11:56 PM

        The Boo patch and the respawning blocks was too much for me, although I've been thinking of coming back. I hate the idea of losing the tree, I doubt I'd rebuild it again, but I can always fraps it for posterity I suppose.

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          November 29, 2010 6:45 AM

          the respawning block bug was fixed a week ago

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      November 28, 2010 8:48 PM

      Are there multiple layers of the world on foo? the render is really odd looking http://foo1.shkn.ws/~djr/mc/gmap/

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        November 28, 2010 8:50 PM

        no the render is fubar... i think renders are turned off right now

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          November 28, 2010 8:56 PM

          it updated once this afternoon.

          I kinda hope it updates again soon as I want to see the finished prison stronghold from space.

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      November 28, 2010 8:49 PM

      Found a dungeon this evening. Really strange, as it was on the surface and all of the others I've found were deep underground.

      Nothing quite as shocking as rounding a hill in unexplored territory only to see a wall of cobble stone blocking off a cave and light shining through the doorway. It was spawning skellies until I surrounded the spawner with torches.

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      November 28, 2010 8:54 PM

      Attention getting text

      So, the nation of Lamperia is no more, and I am left the mayor of its capital city. I would like to hear what the remaining residents of Lamperia would like to do with our future and also hear what our former allies Overlook and Watcher would like to do before we proceed further.

      This is too big a decision for me to make alone, and I'd like everyone's input before progressing further.

      I'll be posting this for the next 24 hours to see what everyone wants to do.

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        November 28, 2010 8:56 PM

        defect to north korea

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        November 28, 2010 10:07 PM

        you may know know this, but I had also joined Lamperia, about 20 hours or so before mercfox left.

        I made a post this afternoon asking what was going to happen:
        http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24633401#itemanchor_24633401

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          November 28, 2010 11:50 PM

          Yeah, I don't know what will happen with us having fewer folk. If the town starts shrinking we may have to re-organize some to keep what we can in the protected zone. I'd love to ally and see you connect up the rail system though.

          I want the remaining residents in town to decide where we go from here. I'm no dictator :) But I definitely would like to ally with the other local towns if need be.

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      November 28, 2010 8:56 PM

      foo1 is dowwwwwwwwwwwwwn

      Merc, can you restart it?

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      November 28, 2010 9:03 PM

      foo can you delete my player data thing on mercfox1? ran into a weird issue can't collect blocks am invisible etc. trying to nail down why (wasn't wearing armor)

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      November 28, 2010 10:55 PM

      http://www.shackpics.com/files/nukekorea_nhnp4rgp992ie6vtbvyn.jpg

      I think we win the war!

      We found their base and managed to get inside (poor door design). So they are relocating, yay!

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      November 28, 2010 11:04 PM

      Could I get build on Foo1? Also where can I build a home that isn't affiliated with a country?

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        November 29, 2010 6:36 AM

        Fenring, I thought you had build on Merc1? If so you're all set to build on Foo1. You just need to find some unclaimed land, which means venturing out a fair bit.

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          November 29, 2010 7:23 AM

          Ah, that explains why I couldn't destroy some sand.

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            November 29, 2010 7:25 AM

            if you type /towny map you can see a rough representation of all the claimed chunks surrounding you. You can also do /towny map toggle to have it auto-update.