On this very special episode of the Shackcast, the official Shacknews podcast of Shacknews, the gang gets "some feedback" from one of our listeners. We take quality control super seriously at Shacknews, so this episode features an exhaustive look at how we can get better. We also rank our show against all the other podcasts in Shacknews history. Blake talks about his recent hands-on previews of Ori and the Will of the Wisps and Baldur's Gate 3, and Asif talks about the account deletion feature on Shacknews.com as well as the Canton Ohio Weather Report's importance as a chronicle of global climate change. David and Lola are also on this episode. Enjoy, Wikus!
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Asif Khan posted a new article, Shackcast Episode 064: One of these days we are going to nail this
Oh boy. Here we go.
5min Discussion about Byte, Loop Daddy and Twitter.
ASIF: We just talked for ... fourteen minutes about a platform where you post six seconds videos.
They start the show.
ASIF: I thought--I thought... we would kick off the show a little differently. 'Cause I got some feedback.
CRADDOCK: You got some feedback?
ASIF: Yeah we got feedback.
ASIF: And, I think by reading this, I'm probably not listening to his feedback. 😐But I don't care.
ASIF: This is from Wikus Van De Merwe.
ASIF: Van De---from Wikus. Uh, he's been doing some thinking lately after listening to the latest shackcast--mind you, Blake, the audio guy really screwed up for the latest shackcast. And I apologized profusely.
CRADDOCK: It happens.
ASIF: Greg recorded at 48khz and the rest of us recorded at 44.1khz like normal people.
CRADDOCK: Greg, you sonuvabitch.
ASIF: And our local recordings for Blake and Greg did not work as a result. Greg also came in like, twenty minutes into the podcast like stone cold--
CRADDOCK: --oh was that where he was your "special correspondent"?
ASIF: Yeah. That was when he was the special correspondent.
CRADDOCK: And didn't know?
ASIF: And didn't know anything we were talking about.
ASIF: He wanted to provide some feedback.
CRADDOCK: I appreciate that!
ASIF: On where we could make some improvements. For the show.
ASIF: And you know... this is just his point of view.
BLAKE: Of course.
ASIF: As a guy that regularly listens to the podcast, amongst a regiment of other podcasts, that he also listens to.
ASIF: So I mean this is like...
BLAKE: So we're just one?
ASIF: We're one of maany podcasts that he listens to. So he knows--
BLAKE: We're just another podcast notch in his bedpost.--
ASIF: HE KNOWS. He knows a good podcast. He knows a shitty podcast.
CRADDOCK: Right. Are we that? I don't think we are.
ASIF: "So also, I have to work off the assumption"--this is hilarious 😃, I laughed. Legit lol when I read this. I still might.-- "that 'you Vision'--with a capital 'V'--or goal--YOU Vision, or goal,
ASIF: "of the podcast" 😯*exhales* "is to either:
"Drive more traffic to shacknews the website." shacknews, the website...
BLAKE: Shack News! The Website! The Game! The Movie!
CRADDOCK: That's our new slogan.
ASIF: "Increase the size of the chatty community" ...
ASIF: Lola literally scoffed at that!
ASIF (continues): "Gain a wide audience of listeners." ... Ok. "Be revenue neutral"😆 "or even profitable?" 🤣
BLAKE: That's... That's definitely the goal of this podcast.
CRADDOCK: He got you again!
BLAKE: I don't know about you guys, I'm definitely in this podcast for the money.
ASIF: Let's get that podcast money!!
CRADDOCK: Oh dude. That shack podcast MONEEEEHHHHH 🤑🤑🤑
BLAKE: Podcast money, comin' right atchya!
... (too much talking over each other makes this section really difficult to transcribe)
ASIF: "Or some combination--"Or some combination of any of the above." You know what? That's fair.
CRADDOCK: Yeah. I think his heart's in the right place.
ASIF: Yeah. No. I'm reading this because I think it came from a very good place, and it's one of our listeners!
CRADDOCK: Yeah yeah yeah.
ASIF: I feel like this is like, our--it's like... it's gonna be good for us.
ASIF: And I thought, let's start with this, and then we can try to record an episode based on Wikus's framework.
CRADDOCK: Alright. Number one: More Tangents!
ASIF: "If none of these are the reason why you're producing a podcast in the first place, then gladly discard this message." 😂
BLAKE: Okay cool. Let's get on with the episode then.
ASIF: "Otherwise--OTHERWISE--Otherwise, here are some things that I think might may help of course."
CRADDOCK: Wikus, minus ten points for an adverb.
ASIF: "You are already aware of a few--maybe ALL, question mark--of these pain points but please at least indulge me" 😂"in case if this writing at least allows you to organize and prioritize the task at hand."
CRADDOCK: If this message is longer than his thoughts on Skyward Sword that he sent me when he was banned I'll be surprised.
ASIF: It might be! 😅
Wikus sidenote: It's not.
ASIF: "In no particular order of importance" ... You ready for this? 🙂
CRADDOCK: Bring it on!
BLAKE: Okay. I'm bracing myself.
CRADDOCK: Hurt me plenty.
ASIF: "Drop Blake,
ASIF: "and/or anyone else not in the room with you. Sorry."
BLAKE: Ohhh. Okay well we can stop there. I think we've heard enough.
CRADDOCK: Alright, bye Blake.
BLAKE: I'll just leave. Sorry Wikus.
BLAKE: Sorry I'm not good enough for you. Oh my goodness...
ASIF: He gives a lot of reasons for it, if you want to hear them.
BLAKE: Is it...? I mean?
ASIF: It's audio-quality...
BLAKE: Uh huh? That's it?
ASIF: It's just audio-quality? And then... it's just audio quality.
BLAKE: It's not anti-semitic?
ASIF: No. I think it's... also... He wants you to get new mics.
BLAKE: Okay. Well, does he want to buy me those new mics?
ASIF:😄 I don't want to read this whole thing, right? I thinkjust having--he wants the audio quality to be similar across the board.
BLAKE: It's cool. I'm picking up on the subtle anti-semitism of his statement. It's cool.
ASIF: Okay, so. This one... he cuts me deep. 😑
CRADDOCK: Uh oh.
BLAKE: Uh oh.
ASIF: "Publish no later than fourty-eight hours after recording."
ASIF: Like I have that time. Like I can do that. I'm gonna try. I'll try.
CRADDOCK: It's tough.
ASIF: You know what, Blake? I am equipped to--I edit audio a lot.
ASIF: I know how to do this. My problem is, that my workflow for my podcast has mainly been on a mac.
Wikus are you going to play p5 royale start to finish
Yeah almost certainly. Why?
I need a report on what is different / improved
ASIF: Granted, when we're recording here I can start using one of the beefy PCs to do that.
ASIF: I think I have to get better... --and I agree with Wikus, here--I need to get better at my workflow for this. But what he doesn't realize is how much else I do for shacknews other than this podcast.
ASIF: And I don't think he's factoring that in.
BLAKE: No. He's not.
CRADDOCK: It's-it's-it's tough we do a lot with a small time.
BLAKE: But you know, that's just the subtle language of racism.
Wikus sidenote: I understand you have a lot of different responsibilities and obligations, Asif. That's why I also suggested, in the same message no less, that you change the frequency of the podcast to a frequency that works best for you. It doesn't have to be once a week. Could be every other week or even a month.
Also, I don't appreciate being called a racist.
EXHIBIT A to clear the record on what I actually sent to Asif:
I wrote the message on a smartphone, hence the typos.
Honestly, I didn't really think they'd READ the message on a podcast and I thought the message would be kept in strict confidence.
ASIF: I'm working on... uh, the DEV side of shacknews.
ASIF: Where there is a vision for what the website is going to evolve into this year. That's still going to be executed and right now it doesn't really--right now it's just sitting there.
ASIF: Um, so then--I guess that when he mentions The Chatty. It's not just the podcast. It's like everything I do, at shacknews, is to make sure that that community survives.
ASIF: And... 😅what I have done recently, with the introduction of the 'delete user' function? Is having a chaotic effect.
CRADDOCK: 🙄 To say the least.
ASIF: That's all I'll say.
ASIF: And I was gonna post about it on the Chatty, but I figure I can just say it here and Wikus can write it down.
ASIF: We allow political discussion, on our forum.
ASIF: Right? Not every gaming site does that.
ASIF: Because of that, at times--and I'm not blaming political discussion--but I think because of that--and this existed before that. This was... the foundations of this site; Quake versus UT. Right?
ASIF: There's like, years of bitter rivalries that are brewing amongst users.
ASIF: Straight-up hatred at each other.
ASIF: And it comes from being a twenty four year old website. My point, to the community or just anyone, would be that
A) You can delete your post history now. And recreate yourself as a new user if you want to.
ASIF: and B) We've always had a thing in-place for changing your username.
ASIF: It's a procedure. You message DukeNuked. You tell him "I don't wanna be XYZ anymore I wanna be ABC." and we perma-ban XYZ and then you're ABC. And it's your choice if you tell the community that you're the same person.
ASIF: And that's our procedure. That's how it's always been. But what people are doing, is deleting their accounts and creating a new one. Deleting their accounts and creating a new one. And uh... yeah that's... I just think, like I said, it's created a world where I cannot perma ban people.
ASIF: And that's dangerous. 😐
ASIF: And from a health-of-a-community standpoint, that concerns me. But what I am working towards on the site is something I think people who created an account twenty years ago or whatever would've wanted it to be, in 2020.
ASIF: So it's like, at this point, I don't blame any users who are doing what they're doing. But I will guarantee you, that if you're a long-term user, and you care about the site at all, you're going to regret deleting your account when I push the next major update to the site.
ASIF: And that's it.
ASIF: And I'm not telling you to not delete your account. If you feel like you need to delete your account, delete your account. But yeah, Wikus, you're right about that aspect. I do--everything I do at this site is to grow our community because I do think it's one of the most unique communities in gaming and on the internet.
CARDDOCK: With that said--and correct me if I'm wrong--you do have to prioritize those initiatives, right?
CRADDOCK: Like some measures will grow the community more than others. The podcast, to me, it's not that it's unimportant because it is important, but it started for me as a way for some of our staff to get together and talk about games.
CRADDOCK: Which is hard to do when most of us are remote--Like the fact that you and I live together--well live near each other, I should say 😓--is, well like eight minutes away I don't know--
BLAKE: That's an abnormality.
CRADDOCK: And so the podcast is kind of a vehicle for us to do with that proximity.
ASIF: Yeah. And I think like we are going to and we have done, like, livestreams together.
ASIF: Like that "The Joy of Super Mario Maker" or stuff like that. Like... look at what we did over game of the year deliberations. We got everyone together. This is... things have fallen into place over the last year that have set us up in a way where we can do things that we couldn't do over a year ago.
ASIF: Yeah so, I dunno. The podcast is just like...
BLAKE: It's icing on the cake.
ASIF: To me, it's my--it's our outlet to shout into the void.
ASIF: That's it.
CRADDOCK: It's definitely not, like, one of the pillars of shacknews.
ASIF: I'll just say it! I'm just gonna say this: when I bought shacknews, they had a podcast. And it was the majority of the traffic coming to the site.
ASIF: One would think when you buy a website, with a podcast, that has the majority of the traffic coming to it, that you would OWN said podcast--But that's not what fucking happened.😠
CRADDOCK: Yeah... that's some...
ASIF: 'Cause boy... there was some good SEO... confirming the end of the week...
ASIF: Not that I'm bitter! 😒So you know what? This is my chance to shout into the void.
ASIF: So like, I dunno. I walk by--you saw that I hung it up, the shuga-shack logo--I walk by it every time I'm in the office now and I'm like, "That's us." A little shack, with a satellite dish strapped to the roof and this is what we got, Wikus. So deal with it.
ASIF: 😄 but you know what? I'm gonna try to get better bandwidth for the satellite dish, but man, yeah... it's not that we're trying to sound bad. Like, I said it specifically in one episode, but yeah. I'm ranting and it's all Wikus' fault.
CRADDOCK: That's okay.
BLAKE: It is all Wikus's fault. I--I--this episode almost didn't happen, though.
BLAKE: I prodded you yesterday, because I thought it was important that we continue doing the shackcast on a regular especially since we're gonna be... all up in Texas, uh, soon.
ASIF: Yeah, for that SXSW.
BLAKE: Yeah so, you know, I was like--I enjoy doing the shackcast. I think podcasts is a good--I dunno a good way to reach out to like, everybody in general and like, help grow stuff and yeah but I also agree we have so many other things that take, like, WAY higher priority like... it's just good that we actually take the time to do this. I think is what Wikus needs to understand.
ASIF: It's a frickin' miracle.
BLAKE: Yeah it's a miracle that we have time to do this, frankly.
ASIF: Wikus wants me to properly announce commercial breaks before we go to them? So let's announce a commercial break right now.
The commercial: https://cartridgefam.com/
ASIF: AND we're back from that break, thanks Wikus! Thanks for reminding me.
ASIF: Uh, do you wanna hear the next complaint?
ASIF: Er, sorry, "feedback"?
CRADDOCK: I think--yeah okay.
ASIF: Blake are you sure?
BLAKE: I dunno. What does he say?
ASIF: I'm gonna read it. Blake, you know that I love you. And I don't--I don't agree with this statement I'm about to read.
CRADDOCK: Uh oh...
BLAKE: I'm gonna brace myself.
ASIF: but these words are gonna come out of my mouth.
CRADDOCK: But they're not your words!
ASIF: And it breaks my heart.
BLAKE: The anti-semitic ramblings of a mad man online are about to come out.
ASIF: 😆Here we go...
ASIF: "The singing by Blake is cringey."
CRADDOCK: 😕Aaoh, Wikus.
BLAKE: I knew it! I knew it.
ASIF: "I'm not out to hurt Blake's feelings."
BLAKE: All I hear is, "All jews can burn in hell."
I'm listening while I code.
who needs to listen? I got my wikus notes! xD
I'm making an active effort to listen to the Shackcast and plug it where appropriate to increase traffic and listenership.
Scholar & A Gentleman!
ASIF: He's actually complaining about our open, too.
CRADDOCK: The open, itself?
BLAKE: The cold open?
ASIF: "I'm not a fan of the cold open, but if you insist on it keep it short. Like, seriously only a minute long, tops. It's really annoying just to drop us into the middle of a conversation and feels unprofessional." Wow.
CRADDOCK: You wanna talk about Weekend Confirmed they did that.
ASIF: Wow. That was like, their thing. It was great. Enjoyed it quite a bit. It's almost like I was motivated to buy the site because of it.
BLAKE: Wikus is one of those people that wants you to say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas". It's like we just can't have our traditions.
ASIF: "Unless you have a setup and punchline and can stick with that, for each and every episode don't do it."
BLAKE: This isn't The Office.
ASIF: Wow. Just like Death Stranding.
Re: chance of next gen game consoles being delayed
Given the amount of manufacturing of consoles and components done in a variety of Chinese regions, I'm thinking that you'll see one of two scenarios:
1) A November release with severely limited availability. This will let manufacturers have that "first to market" mark, a limited hardware set out there to help shake out early manufacturing problems, and a chance for second wave game developers to see what works. However, first wave game developers are going to suffer because the limited number of units for attach rate won't justify the early release.
2) A delay of one or both consoles to September 2021.
ASIF: This is my favorite, and I think this is why I'm doing this. And I want to make it clear that, I already read this.
CRADDOCK: Oh okay.
ASIF: This is not news to me. I already read this. Multiple times, actually.
CRADDOCK: Lemme ask you something, slight tangent (cause we never do that). Any criticisms directed toward me or am I just golden?
ASIF: He loves you.
CRADDOCK: yeh he does Alright. Alright. Okay, continue. Get back on track.
ASIF: It's really just me and Blake. And honestly,
ASIF: You have the jewish guy and obviously I'm not caucasian. Lola's fine.
CRADDOCK: No, what--Lola is above criticism.
ASIF: I'm surprised he hasn't complained about Lola's panting.
BLAKE: Where does Wikus live? In America?
BLAKE: Is he an American?
ASIF: Yeah. North Carolina, I believe.
ASIF: But he used to live in Washington State.
CRADDOCK: 😮You know what? I have a criticism about Wikus!
CRADDOCK: I sent him a Shovel Knight book. Uh, I shipped him a paperback through Amazon he hasn't reviewed it yet.
CRADDOCK: What the hell, Wikus!
CRADDOCK: Also, that book has, eight ratings all five-stars so far.
I did review it.
Sorry, I didn't know you wanted an Amazon review. I'll get on that.
ASIF: 😅 This is--you guys wanna hear this last one?
CRADDOCK: I do. I do.
ASIF: I'm telling you, you guys are gonna like this last one.
CRADDOCK: Alright. Bring it.
ASIF: "Lastly, maybe don't mention me as much."
They then all proceed to laugh harder than I've ever heard them laugh, ever.
CRADDOCK: Real talk, Wikus--
BLAKE: If you don't want us to mention you much!
CRADDOCK: No! No! No. Here's the thing; Wikus, this is kinda self-contradictory, right? Because he thinks of this podcast as an outpost of the community? So of course we're gonna mention shackers!
ASIF: Uh huh.
CRADDOCK: Also, Wikus--
ASIF: I can read you--no, that wasn't it--
CRADDOCK: I just wanna say I appreciate how involved he is.
ASIF: Yes, but like "I'm flattered, and really I'm honored, that you like making jokes or references to me, but to outside listeners joining in, this can feel exclusionary."
CRADDOCK: Join the chatty!
ASIF: "It's okay, and if fact I would encourage for you to bring up other members of the chatty, and to talk about threads that are pertinent to the news topic" Yeah, 'cause shackers always post to news threads 🙄. They don't post to Masem's thread an hour before.
ASIF: "If there's a way you could parlay that as a call to action for outside listeners to join in on the discussion. That'd be even better. Maybe like have a 'My Favorite Post'" Or how about a My Favorite Shack Message section. 😏
CRADDOCK: Yeah. What do you think of Wikus's suggestions? Let us know in the comments below. Be sure to like and subscribe and hit that bell!
ASIF: Yeah. We don't actually have a bell.
CRADDOCK: No we don't.
BLAKE: I feel like--guys, I feel inspired--
BLAKE: To sing a song, for just Wikus.
ASIF: But he continues--I feel like I should read this whole thing otherwise I'm gonna feel like we're taking him out of context.
My L4D2 game with briefcase, Maddog, and dognose got called out (woo) but no mention of Shackmutations yet.
Probably because the man with the briefcase thought boing was part of the actual game lol
Boing = Boing mode = whatever is the name of that shackmutation you wrote
My bad. Those mutations are great!
No harm, no foul.
They finally move on and start talking about more important stuff. Like DICE convention interviews.
52min Asif starts talking about Animal Crossing and why it appeals to him.
Asif talks about his interview with Ed Boon and how he wishes an MK character could join Smash Ultimate.
Listened and completed at 1.5x speed.
I wonder if a "Best Shacker of the Week" feature might replace the "Worst Shacker of the Week" feature.
You would win every week, though.
There are several weeks that I don't even post. I wasn't even nominated for "Shacker of the Year" last year.
It would probably be lookitzpankakes or ThomW.
More like Milleh. We’d all be sick of him by week 16 and drive him off the site. ;)
My body, creamate it in a Breville @ 900F please
I love the pizza reference there at the end lol
News breaks that GDC is cancelled. The Valve Index takes a hit.
ASIF: I had a new strategy for how to be--for how to vote blue no matter what.
ASIF: I was gonna go to GDC, and contract the corona virus, and then come back to Ohio and attend a bunch of Trump rallies.
ASIF: And then just hi-five everyone while I'm wearing my MAGA hat.
ASIF: And then just alllll those old people sick.
ASIF: Cause then like, maybe that would be better than actually voting--
CRADDOCK: Let the bodies hit the floor.
ASIF:in a democratic primary where they're gonna regulate the super-delegates anyway? SORRY FOLKS, I digress. Anyway, Wikus: GDC post-poned, not cancelled!
1hr 23min 30sec
Asif starts talking about the market crashing over the coronavirus outbreak. Paging shirif, he shares some really interesting investing insight behind why he's buying stock on US Steel, of all things. It makes sense, and I hope it pans out for him.
Wow, did we go back in time or did time come to us? Also I’m not listening to three hours of anything, so
2 hr mark Blake talks about his time with Ori and the Blind Forest 2.