Nintendo deletes GrandPooBear's Kai-Zero G Mario Maker 2 level
Nintendo seems to have a problem with one of the best Super Mario Maker 2 players in the world. One GrandPooBear kaizo level has been deleted by the Big N.
Super Mario Maker 2 has been out for nearly three weeks, and players are creating all sorts of levels. GrandPooBear is well known as one of the best content creators in the world of Super Mario Maker 2, but he apparently has drawn the ire of Nintendo as his Kai-Zero G level has been deleted from the game's servers.
Nintendo just deleted my Kai-Zero G course, one of the most played Super Expert courses in Mario Maker 2. It contained no inappropriate words, pictures ect. It contained no glitches.
— GrandPOObear (@GrandPOOBear) July 16, 2019
I am at a loss for words and extremely sad about this. I feel Nintendo just doesn’t want me 1/?
Speaking directly to his fans on Twitter, GrandPooBear clarified the situation. He also laid out what appears to be a pattern of Nintendo doing this to him.
"Nintendo just deleted my Kai-Zero G course, one of the most played Super Expert courses in Mario Maker 2. It contained no inappropriate words, pictures ect. It contained no glitches. I am at a loss for words and extremely sad about this. I feel Nintendo just doesn’t want me making levels, or even playing their games at this point (their PR told me as much). For those who don’t know, Nintendo deleted my entire level Library in the first game, then told me it was a 'mistake driven by the automatic mod system'.
I’ve been told specifically by people at Nintendo that it’s not due to my name being Poo multiple times, as there is 2 characters in Nintendo Cannon named that (and the Earthbound Poo is legit part of my name origin) Don’t know if I should continue creating levels at this point
This is the email I received. There is no appeal process. I honestly feel like shit right now and kinda heartbroken. I love this game. I’m a good ambassador for it. Why does Nintendo continue to pick on me?"
Please take a look at gameplay of the level which had the full title Pile of Poo: Kai-Zero G.
There is some speculation that Nintendo automods deleted the level because poo is a banned word, but as GrandPooBear says above, Nintendo PR has repeatedly told him that his user name is not the issue. I can relate to this situation as my Shacknews.com Briefcase Level 01 was deleted by Nintendo in Super Mario Maker 2. The name breaks the rules for advertising, and I was able to reupload the level after recreating it block by block.
It seems like what is going on with GrandPooBear could be a case of auto-moderation gone wrong, but it doesn't explain how he was treated in 2015 and 2016 on the Wii U version. It is entirely possible that Nintendo simply doesn't like seeing kaizo levels on their servers. These levels don't use game-breaking glitches, but feature fun things that players can do within the existing rules of the game. GrandPooBear has uploaded several kaizo tutorial levels and accompanying videos on his YouTube channel that are definitely worth checking out. It is truly unfortunate to see one of Super Mario Maker 2's best players be treated this way by Nintendo, and hopefully the company will resolve these issues before he leaves the community altogether.
GrandPooBear continues the discussion with his fans on Twitter:
"Also, if there is something that Nintendo could point me too that caused this, I would gladly fix that given the opportunity. Given the fact there is no opportunity to do so, not I have no idea what actually caused it, im left feeling like they just hate me. Which is silly, why would they even care about a dumb streamer? But it keeps happening despite me following their rule sets. I don’t know. I don’t want to create this conspiracy around me and Nintendo but it’s starting to feel that way."
We hope this situation is resolved in a way where players can still be treated to the talents of GrandPooBear. He is one of the more positive influences on the Super Mario Maker 2 community and it is sad to see Nintendo treating him this way. If you want to check out some levels that haven't been deleted check out our Super Mario Maker 2 best level course ID codes guide.
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I love nintendo but they are assbackwards and I would never trust them with anything in terms of mp/maintaining a software library and/or saves.
Of the big 3 Microsoft seems to get it right currently, you can literally play the same game you bought once, through 3 different generations and it might even have all your settings/save games in the cloud. In some cases you can play a mp game on the OG Xbox, the 360 and the xbone in mp.-
Microsoft made it so seamless that I don’t think people realize how impressive it is. It literally just works. The console being completely bricked or replaced is of no consequence as everything of value is in the cloud. It’s crazy.
I play a Xbox anyway game on pc and pick up the same point on my console or go to a friends house and do the same. It’s crazy.
Meanwhile Sony kinda has it but is obtuse about in many ways. Recent example:
To log in on a friends system, do the following
1. Go to the menu
2. Power (power for account management? Not the account management? What?)
3. Log in as guest
4. Create new account (not log in with PSN account? This sounds like create brand new account)
5. Use the Sony app on your phone to take a picture of a barcode (cool, but totally not obvious)
This is cool after it works but in no way would I be able to figure it out without googling. Just give me a log in button
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Bowser needs to fix this right now
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I enjoy watching Grandpoobear and the Mario relay at SGDQ was great. But unlike the last time this is probably due to the fact the level had "Pile of Poo" in the title, and not due to his handle.
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Yeah, like I said in the article, this is probably an automod thing, but the way his levels were handled on Wii U is suspect...
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Reframing. GrandPoo is significantly different than Pile of Poo. You would think he would know better, but he tries to spin it and say Nintendo told him it wasn’t his name despite the context being completely different here.
This is a big nothing, but I will say that Nintendo should be more specific as to why something is deleted. If it’s a title issue the “auto mod” should auto rename it and give the owner an opportunity to rename it to something that doesn’t violate the TOS.-
At minimum I'd like them to include screenshots of the areas of contention.
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Any clarification would be great. The final decision stuff is also pretty absurd. There is no appeal process. No messaging Duke Nuked.
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true but pile of poo does insinuate like of shit. I imagine mother trucker would get banned too
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he had levels in the first game also called "Pile of Poo"... and they, too, were deleted. but because he reuploaded them and they weren't deleted a second time, and he remembers some rando custom service rep once telling him the name is ok, he believes the name could not possibly be the reason. i don't get his angle either, it's obviously the name, i don't care what he remembers some random rep telling him
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If it really is the name, then it shouldn't be allowed to get past the naming filter during creation.
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I'm not referring to his name, I'm referring to the level name. Poo isn't even in his name on the Mario Maker platform, it's GPB.
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They've been drug advocates for over 30 years.
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Wow! I occasionally watch his videos and he's always been entertaining at GQD. I can't beat his levels, but they always use interesting mechanics, and watching him play through them and other difficult levels is entertaining.
Hopefully the publicity this is bringing will get Nintendo to reinstate the levels, and hopefully make changes to how they are handling things like to to be more informative as to what the actual issue is in the future, -
Nintendo is going to NintendoN'T. They can't help it.
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