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  That and who wants to play in 720p (with compression artifacts)? : Jimbo Ro
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    Wii is the best selling console and has been for years. Go look at the technical specs. : WhatIsThisFor
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      Yes, but there isn't COMPRESSION. : orgcaptainnemo
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        No one here has seen it in action, who knows if it's noticeable or problematic for your average consumer. : WhatIsThisFor
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          Shack reporters have seen it in action http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1090 At GDC in... : Schnapple
          • lollipops and unicorns will save it! : Jimbo Ro
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      What does that have to do with this service? You are still playing the same PC games....just in ugly ... : Jimbo Ro
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        You said "who wants to play in 720". Apparently a very large number of people are fine with that resolut... : WhatIsThisFor
        • I am. My 42" 720 panasonic looks great. Now, if I had a larger TV, 720 might be a little low. : icon_of_syn
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          Anyone with a console really. But Onlive still uses your PC...so if you are plugging your PC into your T... : Jimbo Ro
          • Actually, OnLive uses whatever you want it to use. Laptop, Netbook, TV, Phone, etc. Still haven't watch... : WhatIsThisFor
          • They're doing a mini-console thing that hooks into the tv, you don't need a pc. : boredguy
          • you haven't looked recently have you. They have a little decoder box (similar in size to a 2.5" external... : JuffoWup
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            wait, you mean the set top box they are considering giving away with the subscriptions? oh shit, yeah,... : snowwolf
            • wait, you mean the set top box they are considering not giving away with the subscriptions? consideri... : Jimbo Ro
        • There's a huge difference between a 720p image viewed from 10 feet away versus 18 inches away. : bipolar
    • I don't think Onlive will be selling to most of the people who have made the Wii a top seller. : boredguy
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  I would give it a "wait-and-see" attitude. Why? Because there are a lot of people behind this that are ... : icon_of_syn
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    Mainly the people who invented quicktime. : freakynipples69
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      Yea, I watched the video. I'm optimistic : icon_of_syn
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        The presentation impressed me greatly, I hope it delivers. But again it's something that I'll have to act... : freakynipples69
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          I found that if you have expectations, that you might not reach them. But if you don't have any, then you... : ajvitaly
          • Okay vince vaughn. : freakynipples69
        • I just don't see how they could put so much investment in a product, along with all the major publishers ... : icon_of_syn
    • You say that like it's a good thing : kill9
    • I'm still waiting to be impressed. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    The shack doesn't trust: Government Military Industrial Complex Hollywood Big Business Phil's Video ... : rosewood
    • All of those have let us down in the past :( : one random winner
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  But didn't you watch the video where they said it would be sunshine and lollipops? LOLLIPOPS YOU FAGGOTS!... : rosewood
  • can i have a lollipop? : kbnerd
• Again, it's a wait and see thing with it. Don't be a typical shacker/gamer to write it off without actual... : freakynipples69
• I thought you actually purchased games to play on Onlive on top of the subscription? : Zek
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  That's not how onlive works. Publishers don't share the monthly fee. Games are sold on onlive a la carte.... : GloriousCow
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    So on top of paying monthly for the service, I'm going to have to pay full price to play the game? Sort o... : freakynipples69
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      But you don't have to upgrade your computer with one of them fancy $150 GPUs that lasts and lasts. : Jimbo Ro
      • Yeah, it'll still be cost effective. Again, it all comes down to lag and how high quality the games l... : freakynipples69
    • Game prices are are by the publishers. The could set onlive pricing below retail but probably won't at fi... : GloriousCow
    • Probably not full price, no. Don't forget that this is a service with zero piracy, zero used sales. It's ... : uncleanmonkey
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    If that's true then definitely count me out. : ajvitaly
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      How is that any different then Xbox Live Gold? You pay for the service, and then pay even more to downloa... : freakynipples69
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        First off, you don't have to pay anything to download XBLA games. And it's different anyway because you h... : Zek
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          oh no? I can download ANY XBLA game for free all I want without having to pay a single penny beyond the y... : freakynipples69
          • No, you don't have to be subscribed to Live Gold to buy them... : Zek
          • That's not what he meant. At all. Really. : omnova
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          Don't have to pay anything to download XBLA games? What? : icon_of_syn
          • Also, I assume the prices will be reduced for the onlive services. Same day new releases won't cost 60 b... : icon_of_syn
        • ^ this. They are too many things that make this not seem like a worthwhile purchase. But I guess we'll se... : bad_fish
      • For starters, I don't have an xbox. : ajvitaly
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      Citation: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/57804 Users need only subscribe to OnLive and purchase : Schnapple
      • Thanks for finding that.. but :( : Lionel2b
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  I'm confused, why would it cut into the profits? They still sell the games at retail price, the service ... : Halen
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    I didn't realize games are to be sold. I though the service was strictly subscription based. : ajvitaly
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      So basically you didn't watch the whole video linked this week and you decided you would just start a thr... : Geoffrois
      • Just another day at the shack. : freakynipples69
      • Reminds me of yesterday. : WhatIsThisFor
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        No I did not watch the entire 48 minute video. I skimmed through it, read the summaries, and then felt li... : ajvitaly
        • Good thing you decided to make an illinformed post about it with all that time you saved. : WhatIsThisFor
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          Wasting our time is not a productive use of your time. : Geoffrois
          • I never said I did anything productive! : ajvitaly
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          Like posting on the shack about an issue you don't have enough information about to argue against. : freakynipples69
          • Well thanks to you I do now and I am even more skeptical than before my initial post. : ajvitaly
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  This is why it won't work - 80ms of INPUT LAG. That means nearly 1/10 of a second before your game even r... : CoreContingency
  • Talk about feeling floaty. : one random winner
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    80ms is not the minimum latency to expect. : icon_of_syn
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      It's not the maximum either, just the target latency they repeat over and over again in their 48 minute v... : CoreContingency
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        Sure. But can you honestly expect them to release a product that laggy? It just boggles my mind they wo... : icon_of_syn
        • I honestly can't say for certain. Just consider me very skeptical. Should they ever see fit to grant me a... : CoreContingency
        • People give money to doomed products all the time. What was that last "console" PC thing...Phantom? ... : Jimbo Ro
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          No, it works like this. Fool a bunch of investors into funding your project. You sell it on hype and em... : Goto10
          • Difference being those were never actually released, though I suppose this hasn't either. : one random winner
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    Okay that's bad. : freakynipples69
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      But keep positive! I'm sure it will work out exactly like they're telling you it will - or even better. J... : ajvitaly
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        Why are you still here? : freakynipples69
        • Why are you getting upset? Seriously though, I think right now Onlive is about 5 years too early for... : ajvitaly
    • I think I could honestly play a console game that was that laggy. Most console games don't require you to... : BlackCat9
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    That feels more responsive than when I tried to play ArmA 2. *cue "it's realistic, not buggy" whining* : BlackCat9
    • Or Battlefield 2 (at least when it initially launched). I'm not sure if they ever fixed that but there w... : WhatIsThisFor
    • lol, so true. They finally fixed that shit in the latest patch. Makes the game so much better! : SockMonkeh
  • I think that's just a ceiling for their service before it gets really bad. Say they have a tier network ... : Halen
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    That's actually not too bad. Some people's brains just can't adapt I guess. : gooblerampling
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      yeah, I feel no problems with that, its very minimal for 80ms. I was actually expecting a larger delay. : JuffoWup
      • Me too. I would totally buy this service with that lag level. : Jimb0v2
    • Now make sure to remember that the latency will not be constant....adapt.......now...no wait too late. : Jimbo Ro
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    It would be interesting to compare this feeling when using a gamepad vs a mouse : GloriousCow
    • Yeah, as I said above, I think a gamepad would be pretty playable with 80ms of lag, since you're not dire... : BlackCat9
  • That would be totally playable even for a FPS. Not how I'd want to play them, but it's certainly valid. : enyakk
  • GTA IV has like 160ms input lag. Halo 3 is about 100ms IIRC. It's not like this is a big deal. Yes, playi... : uncleanmonkey
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    Oh and that test seems rubbish. First there's the latency of the actual mouse itself, then all the layers... : uncleanmonkey
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      By that same logic, the video game you're playing will also have its own input lag separate from Onlive. : Zek
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        No, because the 80ms refers to end-to-end latency, not just transfer latency. : uncleanmonkey
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          Even supposing it includes every delay imposed by the Onlive system itself, there's no way they included ... : Zek
          • Yes, they did. Did you see the video? They even developed their own wireless protocol to reduce latency (... : uncleanmonkey
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    wow.. that's an inf right there. It's much worse than I thought it would be. : Fredrik S
    • Because it's inaccurate. Try it with 0ms lag and you should see no latency at all, but it's still laggy. : uncleanmonkey
  • that's better than Dead Space, and I'm having a great time with the game : Cihte
  • that's actually not that bad I don't see the big deal : DeBurgo
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  Here's my question. Do any of us even WANT or are even remotely interested in the onlive service? I... : Thornfist
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    No need for costly PC upgrades every 1-2 years, instant access to games playing at the highest possible g... : freakynipples69
    • I don't want to have to pay forever for access to games I own. : GloriousCow
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      costly...like $150 5770 video cards! A card that will let you do resolutions and frame rate 2-3x higher ... : Jimbo Ro
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        OnLive servers are upgraded every 6-months with the absolute latest hardware. : freakynipples69
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          And if I set the same money to the side every month I'm sure I could afford a new GPU / CPU / Mobo / RAM ... : Jimbo Ro
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            Possibly but I highly doubt that their target demographic are people who can build a PC themselves or eve... : WhatIsThisFor
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              Who is the target audience? People that would rather play console games? I don't see them dragging thei... : Jimbo Ro
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                Who do you think is the target audience? : WhatIsThisFor
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                  I don't really know. People that already play PC games...odds are not them. They can already play gam... : Jimbo Ro
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                    Keep thinking about it. Watch that video sometime too (maybe before the next time there is one of these ... : WhatIsThisFor
                    • People with too much money that want to "have" something "new"? "Brah look I'm playing a PC game on my i... : Jimbo Ro
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                    it'll allow for the intermingling. PC Gamers that want to play some of the console games without having ... : JuffoWup
                    • I thought this only played PC games.... And I didn't think they were going to have a massive library o... : Jimbo Ro
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                    I showed my boss, a primarily console player who's never played a FPS on a PC, the onlive site and he was... : freakynipples69
                    • Ohhh actually this sounds fun. All these gamepad players in my L4D2 matches!!! : Jimbo Ro
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                  PC gamers who dont have enough money to upgrade their system. I know plenty of people that are still play... : Techy007
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                    They don't have enough money to upgrade their POS PC but can pay a subscription to play games? To so... : Jimbo Ro
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                      Is it easier to shell out $1000 for a computer, or pay a small subscription fee? : Techy007
                      • Also, what if you just want to play one game and it's only going to take a couple months to finish. (See... : WhatIsThisFor
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                        Who said the sub. fee is going to be "small"? What if it's $30 a month? $50 a month? What do you think... : Goto10
                        • It's all speculation, you can guess high or you can guess low depending on whether you want to argue eith : WhatIsThisFor
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        A PC is more than a video card. : WhatIsThisFor
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          But most everything else lasts a lot longer for games. My Q6600 is over 2 years old and I don't see an... : Jimbo Ro
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            It's honestly amazing that you can keep making this argument. From what I gather you want gaming to exist... : derelict515
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              It boggles my mind how you can be so naive yet so sure of yourself at the same time. It's too early for ... : Goto10
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                It's the fact that Jimbo refuses to accept there's even a use case for tech like this whether it works or... : derelict515
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                  We're not comparing the speed of streaming Flash, we're talking about conversion of video in realtime. C... : Goto10
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                    Do you even read posts you're replying to? I specifcally said 'there's nothing wrong with being skeptical... : derelict515
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                      So you would personally invest your money into this product being developed? Do you believe in it to put... : Goto10
                      • Because I do not and would not. : Goto10
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                        On a more serious note, how much do you anticipate this costing the end user? : Goto10
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                          I have no idea and it obviously has a huge effect on the success of the company. Whether it's $20/month, ... : derelict515
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                            I never said buying a $500 desktop was going to be everyones choice, you're continuing to insist on this ... : Goto10
                            • How many times can one person ignore the same point? You're on a roll so far. : derelict515
                      • A completely worthless diversion and completely irrelevant to my argument. This could be the greatest pie... : derelict515
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      I may be a sick bastard, but I actually costly PC upgrades every 1-2 years. I find it fun. : Thornfist
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        you costly the whole thing? : zerog83
        • I enjoy costly. Fuck...what happened there? : Thornfist
    • The monthly subscriptions costs will substitute perfectly for the pc upgrade costs! And the highest p... : ajvitaly
    • According to the Gizmodo hands-on: As far as picture quality goes, there is noticeable compression and : bad_fish
  • For most of the people here who would care about the drawbacks of a system like this, they probably alrea... : BlackCat9
  • If there were PS3 games that I could play on this I'd become an instant customer. Why PS3 games? Because ... : Geoffrois
  • If I traveled more with my job, definitely. : WhatIsThisFor
  • It's not for everyone, to be sure. At home, I will always be running games on whatever monster of a compu... : CoreContingency
  • I have zero interest in it at all. : Evil Benius
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    I'm not interested in it and I want it to fail. We already have the problem where games are pared down... : Schnapple
    • Seems like it could easily do the exact opposite as long as there's competing services. Rather than getti... : uncleanmonkey
  • I have no personal interest, but I'm still fascinated with the technology behind it and curious about how... : Helter Skelter
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    I'm here with you. I have no interest in playing every game at 30 fps. : spazzium
    • But think of the costs man! A computer that can play games at 1280x720 at 30 FPS must cost thousands of ... : Jimbo Ro
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      I wish I could get a guaranteed 30fps on every PC game. : BlackCat9
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        At 1280x720? I mean really... That's like a sub $500 PC. : Jimbo Ro
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          Exactly. They're touting this amazing visual quality, but with the stream it's putting out, I can get th... : spazzium
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            thats us though. They are targetting people with less than optimal computers. While at the computer sto... : JuffoWup
            • But as my computer ages I will want a faster one to make my daily computing life easier and faster. So... : Jimbo Ro
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    Fuck yes. Assuming there will eventually be some sort of incremental payment or subscription plan. If... : uncleanmonkey
    • I'll settle for a download over steam for the better graphics, frame rate, control responsiveness. : Jimbo Ro
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      That's the thing, it will be extremely easy to sell to people as it's complete instant gratification. Wor... : Geoffrois
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        or even better, firing it and watching someone on the shack play it and judge if the gameplay is for you ... : JuffoWup
        • I didn't even think of that, I could see this becoming very popular on the shack. I like watching people ... : Geoffrois
  • No interest at all. : drodver
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    Don't even know what it is (didn't watch the video the other day). Definitely wouldn't pay $50/month f... : Nixx2004
    • At $20 a month you could afford a new GPU every 6-10 months. At $30 a month you could get a new computer... : Jimbo Ro
  • I sure as shit am interested. I can stop upgrading my machine and play games maxxed out? Yeah, count me i... : Visceral Monkey
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  This service to me is the perfect gap filler. When I'm on the road in a shitty hotel, I'd love to be able... : Saman
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    I think you over estimate the quality of internet you get at a hotel. If I can get through a 30 minute... : Jimbo Ro
    • Yeah hotel internet always sucks horribly for me. No where good enough for something like this. : Evil Benius
  • IIRC it was 1.5MBps for the low end... : uncleanmonkey
  • that's kind of exactly where it won't work at all. : Neech
• I played Bioshock at GDC on Onlive and while I could see some compression artifacts, they didn't ruin the... : J4NUS
• The lag isn't the killer right now, it's the compression artifacts (from I keep hearing) : Visceral Monkey
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  Biggest investor sham since the Phantom console. : Goto10
  • Hahah your timing is about spot on http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21774524#itemanchor_21774524 : Jimbo Ro
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  Look, you guys don't need to discuss this. This is what entrepreneurs do. He had a crazy idea which every... : Neech
  • It's definitely an interesting idea. I'm just very skeptical that it will be popular enough to stay afloa... : bad_fish
  • TIME TO SHUT DOWN SHACKNEWS. Nothing left to discuss here, folks. : Albemuth
  • This product would be great if presented in a more realistic fashion. Present it as something that can p... : Goto10
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  I'm more interested in the tech than the service itself. Unless they offer bundles like Gametap or offer : Serpico74
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    I'm not even interested in it personally. I will always build a sweet machine and buy games and play them : SockMonkeh
    • bingo : JuffoWup
    • yeah i agree, i see this being the biggest benefit. bring pc games to people who otherwise feel they can... : smacknca
    • One thing I do think is cool is the option to rent games. Just like there are certain movies I'll buy on ... : Serpico74
    • That could be a good market. Personally I'm in PC gaming because of the rig I get to build for myself and... : Marrbe
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  I choose to think of it like Steam. so many people lashed out at it during launch... it may have some hi... : Downforce
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    I've loves steam since the start. NO reason not to. But this is just crazy. : Jimbo Ro
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      Steam had tremendous backlash from the start. The attitude back in 2003 was "this sucks hard and will def... : Serpico74
      • ^^ My thoughts too : pun][sher
      • I was very resistant to it, my steam number is 5XXX though because I wanted HL2 that night. I was wrong. ... : deskill
      • The things people didn't like about Steam had nothing to do with this concept. People didn't like the Bi... : Goto10
    • I *hated* steam at the start. Now I love it, it's the best thing for pc gaming pretty much ever. : Visceral Monkey
    • As crazy as hulu would have seemed in 1999? I've got to imagine there will be a hundreds of millions wit... : handofthrawn
• How about you wait before business end of things is made public.. no one knows how its going to operate, ... : Demius
• My issue is what if someone in your house is downloading or uploading and causing major lag on your netwo... : zuff
• There's an article on slashdot about this right now. The tech heads in the comments pretty much call it o... : Visceral Monkey
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  I agree, at least with current Internet technology. But you gotta build that killer app first before the ... : tostador
  • ^ This I agree with. : Nighthawk0110
  • Agreed, I think this is a fantastic idea that's just a little before its time. But somebody had to do it ... : Zek
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  I don't understand how anyone could be opposed to this. I'm in favour of any initiative that brings more... : Whistler77
  • I haven't read up too much on the product but what kind of control are they going to give the end user? ... : cetra00
  • It *really* sets some people off for some reason. There are at least two camps of nay-sayers (probably mo... : Visceral Monkey
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  http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/gdc-why-onlive-cant-possibly-work-article : Visceral Monkey
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    nice article, unfortunately there videos didn't seem to work :( : bad_fish
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      http://www.eurogamer.net/videos/onlive-60fps-quality-estimation-video Looks like garbage compressed at... : Goto10
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        It's also an estimation using traditional encoding techniques (which can't work with OnLive even if they ... : aggressor
        • its a pretty useless video. You might as well show a crappy jpeg of line art to prove gifs are impossible... : GloriousCow
  • READ THIS : Albemuth
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    Largely incorrect and irrelevant. Their low-latency compression penalizes still-frame quality for perc... : uncleanmonkey
    • Yea, the guy says in the video that they started out with traditional software rending on quad xeons and ... : aggressor
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  Holy shit, they should just shut it all down. : Fred Garvin
  • It's a farce, they've been discovered. Time to end it. : Visceral Monkey
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  It's a terrific idea that would work if everyone had awesome internet with hundreds of Gb of monthly down... : MeestaNob
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    I would have said the same about Netflix a decade ago. : trove
    • Streaming video is a much much easier task than streaming gameplay though. : Zek
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  So... what the fuck are we arguing about? Seriously. I have no idea what OnLive is. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    It's a streaming gameplay service - a modern console/PC game is run on a remote server, and you play it r... : Zek
    • It's basically the same thing as using remote desktop to play a game on another computer. : Zek
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  Funny thing is, I was going through my spam folder this morning and found an invitation application to th... : .Jayson
  • Way to send it out Christmas week guys! : .Jayson
• If its not On Live, this cloud gaming idea is inevitable anyway. Sooner or later everything will be like ... : bozer
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  The thing that makes this hard to believe is that they are offering nothing less than a singularity for g... : Visceral Monkey
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    What the shit are you talking about and have you checked out the video? There's nothing magical here, the... : Geoffrois
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      Yes I've seen the fucking video, that doesn't mean it's going to work that well in the wild. if it does i... : Visceral Monkey
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        And yes, the "codec" they are pimping would have to be nearly magically to get the results they need. Is ... : Visceral Monkey
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          how are live sports events encoded in HD? : GloriousCow
          • there is a delay : .frame
      • The video had it running with tons of beta testers online at the time. It clearly works on some level. ... : uncleanmonkey
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        The guy behind OnLive is not just some dude off the street. His team invented VIDEO ON COMPUTERS. He also... : pancake humper
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          Will it handle hundreds of thousands or millions of simultaneous users? That's the real test. Say this do... : Chod
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            That's a scalability/money problem though. A whole lot of people here are saying it can't possibly work e... : derelict515
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              I think the situation is going to vary a lot even on one machine though. I don't ping lower than about 15... : Chod
              • well it sounds like this won't be feasible for you then. I don't get the assumption from some people that... : derelict515
              • Seriously? http://www.pingtest.net/ : uncleanmonkey
        • I need to see it working in the wild. I'm not saying it won't work, I'm saying it's such a game changer t... : Visceral Monkey
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  At this point in time, the amount of hate OnLive is getting is laughable. Many of you have seen new tech\... : aggressor
  • Take it one step further... the spectating options are AWESOME for this. You mean I could spectate a tour... : Demius
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  I think its a fantastic idea but I probably would rather buy the game and upgrade my machine on the cheap... : boomstickah
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    I'm about to update my computer also - $500 will get me a new MB, a Quad Core, 4 Gigs of RAM, and a new m... : Goto10
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      Because everyone wants to invest $500+ in a computer, knows how to build one themselves, and wouldn't lik... : derelict515
      • Who on Earth said everyone wants to do that? Many people do, but not everyone, no. : Goto10
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  I think the biggest obstacle to this is the fact that PC gamers actually like upgrading their PC's to pla... : edgewise
  • The people you are describing are hardcore PC gamers, not 'casual' people that OnLive is targetting. They... : aggressor
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    I think for a lot of people that isn't the case anymore. When I got to college my PC gaming days ended qu... : derelict515
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      lets review: "PC gamers actually enjoy managing and upgrading their machines!" "Yes, but not peop... : SpaecKow
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        lets review: "shitty post ignoring the point" we can play this game all day, unless you have an issue w... : derelict515
        • Yeah derelict you have a point, a point entirely adjacent of the one made in the edgewise post. That dude... : SpaecKow
  • Depends on the cost of this stuff in Europe, if it'll available here. In Sweden, hardware is a good 50% m... : Marrbe
• I am very excited about this, specifically because of the Mac support. No more having to boot into Window... : Modica Sol Solis
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  Actually you'll buy games at the same price you always have. As I explained, there's no way the price of ... : locater16
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    how does it preclude multiplayer exactly? : GloriousCow
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      yeah, seems like multiplayer network lag would be a non-issue assuming the game clients are all running o... : cpt_gloval
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        So, every cloud gaming service in the world is run out of one megalithic data center the size of Idaho? O... : locater16
        • i'm thinking more like everyone on the west coast playing Onlive Zompire Killers 4 would be served out of... : cpt_gloval
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    Piracy + used sales pushes the supply/demand sweet spot up. Remove those two and it's highly likely that ... : uncleanmonkey
    • Demand isn't going to change, and increasing development budgets are going to push up the supply end anyw... : locater16
    • OnLive won't solve piracy unless a game is only released on it and not normal PC/console, i don't see tha... : boredguy
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  Business Model So a lot of people are making speculation about how they wouldn't buy it if (insert exc : Demius
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    Buy game at "full retail price" - I can't see anyone really going this route, for the reasons already sta : cpt_gloval
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      Yeah but the problem, as brought up above and in other threads, is if I choose not to 'buy' anything else... : Demius
      • It seems to awkwardly straddle a few existing business models. Something like Zune Pass you have to keep... : GloriousCow
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    buy games at full retail price will be the model. Look at Magic the Gathering Online. People pay more f... : Jimb0v2
    • They also discussed rentals and subscription bundles as options. They're going to offer more than just bu... : Serpico74

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  You need bookmarks for you porn? I just... remember them... : Rehevkor
  • *your. Fuck. : Rehevkor
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  Under "Stuff" like everyone else : theargent
  • haha yup... my folder is called Stuff too! : Shadowdane
  • Mine is called "temp" : uncle slappy
  • Haha, mine is called exactly that! : -JLN-
• doesn't that defeat the whole purpose? : Slowtreme
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  16 folders deep, with random names on each of the folders. : YerMothah
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    No way, then ppl get curious as to what's inside the rabbit hole : Demius
    • Best to hide it in plain sight, under something no one would go in. Like msn or yahoo. : walker270
    • seriously, I'm much more likely to look in a folder called UGISGCUIVK than Intel. : aethyr
    • Spotlight FTW : Neech
  • wtf????????? : kgargs
• The other day I learned itunes auto-syncs bookmarks to my iphone. That was fun. : walker270
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  Uhm. I just...go there. IDK, i have been using the same site since i was 14. So i have 8 years of musc... : President Robert E. Lee
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    And.. Which site would that be? : Flinz
    • http://www.philsized.com/JessicaSlumberParty.avi : Phil
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  I have two Firefox profiles. One is the default non-porn profile. The shortcut to launch Firefox is just : Rooster Cockburn
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    Holy shit dude. You are hardcore. : Omning
    • with a name like Cockburn, I wouldn't expect anything less. : aethyr
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    all this for porn. i don't see what the trouble is for though. : Jikim
    • It's for the same reason people don't keep their collection of porno DVDs with all their regular movies, ... : Rooster Cockburn
  • Wow dude that's a pro setup you have. Respect! : sonicdeathwalrus
  • For a sec I thought it said: "Since I use the Firefox Pedobear..." : nodge69
  • wow. good idea : GloriousCow
  • cockburn indeed : gokart.
  • oh damn, redirect remover is neat. I had written a dragon drop app to do the same thing. : dooberzoo
  • omg i use redirect remover on my pornbrowser firefox profile also. high five porno browser buddy! : dodob
  • dont let the naysayers deter you. your dedication deserves respect. period. you want to do something, ... : greydog
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  Just make an ini file with a name like videoconfig.ini and put it in the root of a game or application di... : noxiousgg
  • my brain is melting right now but I'm also 30 and married (only 3.5 years so not Phil'd yet) so maybe one... : kgargs
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    True, but if the next person who uses your comp tries to copy & paste something and accidentally hits "co... : Orange Pylon
    • *accidentally hits "copy" the wrong way, or accidentally skips to Paste. : Orange Pylon
    • Clear it by copying a space or something. You really have to worry about searches more than leaving somet... : noxiousgg
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  Are you guys retarded? Who has bookmarks for porn? Just go through the standard *tube*.com sites. : kgargs
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    do you have any idea how hard it is to find transexual badger scat erotica : GloriousCow
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      alt.binaries.erotica.badgers : Rooster Cockburn
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        well hell ANYONE can find that. transexual badgers are significantly more rare though, and tend to shy aw... : Xanthos
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          alt.binaries.erotica.badgers.* There's a whole heirarchy. Maybe you need a better usenet provider. : Rooster Cockburn
          • apparently i've been missing out on the best that badger erotica has to offer. damn! : Xanthos
    • You son of a bitch. I almost spit water all over my keyboard. :) : erebus
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  why would you need to hide them : electroly
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    in the event of my death I don't want my mother to see that I bookmarked a gallery of care bare bondage p... : GloriousCow
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      she won't think any less of you. : Jikim
      • Well he might have told her he's a furry yet. : deject
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  use something like delicious and have make sure the details aren't saved anywhere. : Klebold
  • internet bookmark repository. : Klebold
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  _________Bookmarks_________ADULT_______PORN_______ : CoRDS
  • Man, that's just goddamn ridiculous. There's clearly not enough _______________ : Orange Pylon
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  How many porn sites do you go to that you need bookmarks to manage them all? : TheVietSpecial
  • You're obviously a woman. : nwillard
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  You know... someone should make a google reader for porn sites. Or do they already have RSS feeds I dont... : deskill
  • Try googling fusker. : Rooster Cockburn
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  FYI, I think both Firefox and Chrome will auto-fill your bookmark links into the URL bar as you type rega... : Zek
  • Exactly why I deleted all my porn bookmars : Utopia
• in my mind. : freakynipples69
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  What kind of grown man doesn't have his own booby trapped computer room? : Marrbe
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    A masturbatorium, if you will. : nodge69
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      lol I love that word. : freakynipples69
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        A Caligulounge? : AxeMan808
        • That, that is brilliant. : Cliffzorz
    • that's great : fluffy64
• I don't have porn bookmarks. I hide them in a .txt file in a random folder in the Windows folder lol : Utopia
• Take the easier route. Make all the bookmarks for your porn sites, export them to HTML, delete said book... : wattss
• When I had porn it was c:\porn. All the methods posted here worked great when I was in middle school th... : brecht
• Call it....pron. They'll NEVER know! : DocShiv
• I set up a second Firefox account for my porn browsing needs. I then sync up all those bookmarks with a s... : dodob
• You guys are fucking amateurs. What if the wife searches for .jpg ?? HUH, what then, you "i gotta STUF : Phil

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• DSL killed the LAN party. That being said, massive gatherings still exist, the smaller one's don't thoug... : one random winner
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  I went to a 16-man LAN earlier this year. It was glorious. : MercFox1
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    Awesome, what game was played? I was thinking L4D2 would be an absolute riot on LAN. Same goes for BF2.... : atom519
    • We played BF2, Source, Team Fortress 2, UT2k4, there was some Forged Alliance thrown in, L4D, there was o... : MercFox1
• we have one about every quarter at the office, set up a little switch on an out-of-band network and a gam... : halophoenix
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  honestly, if I were to do a lan party, it'd be a bunch of xbox's playing head to head. wait, does xbox3... : epit
  • Halo 3 has system link. So yes : Sailor of Fortune
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  there was a point early this decade where we would LAN almost every weekend, like 9-10 of us. those da... : NukemFornever
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    Doesn't that make you a bit sad to think in X number of years, no one will even remember what LAN parties... : atom519
    • You mis-spelled porn at the end there. : deskill
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      yes it does. a giant fucking killer of lans was World of Warcraft in 2004. That was the deathblow : NukemFornever
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        Cuz after 2004, no matter what lan we tried to have, people would come over and play WoW and raid or leve... : NukemFornever
        • Yeah, I could see that. Also, there were only a handful of good FPS games back in the day - so almos : atom519
      • It is so sad to see how many people play that game at the big UK LANs with net connections. :( At least s... : node
    • This is why I loved going to PCBangs in Korea. Even if you just go alone to play whatever game, being ar... : Blucklesworth
  • same here, I still talk to the core group that used to attend our lan parties but the best we can do now ... : X-GOUKI
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  I think they're basically dead. I went to the only one I'm aware of in the DFW area about a month ago and... : Dynotaku
  • Whoops... The remainder wrer playing little 2-4 man games with the people they came with or games so old ... : Dynotaku
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  They really seem to have pretty much died out. It's too bad, really. I'd still go to them if I could. : mathyou
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    There really ought to be one in Minneapolis/St. Paul. We're big enough, dang it! : mathyou
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      st. cloud close enough for you? http://www.lanpartymap.com/minnesota-lan-party/1629-Tower-Center-LAN.h... : harold.johnson
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        cool website, thanks. : atom519
        • its use has decreased a lot since xoxide was sold earlier this year, the new owners don't seem to be push... : harold.johnson
• I LAN'd like 4 years ago at my boss's house. Was a riot and I really enjoyed it! : kgargs
• I would like to, but no. There just aren't any where I live anymore. : dmason
• Our semi defunct clan (we are an IRC only clan these days) still has a summer lan party every year, its f... : skunk_ape
• I went to one earlier this year. I don't see them as much anymore though. : melkore
• I haven't hit a lan party since reaching drinking age 5 years ago :( : Omning
• "Sunday is Game Day, every other day is just practice." http://steamcommunity.com/groups/sundaysundaysu... : ghost hacker
• Yup. Both small local ones in school halls and the biggest in the UK with 2000 at a race course or confer... : node
• nope, not in many years : derelict515
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  i got to a lot of lan parties. going to two next week. a small one in olympia, wa at tugboat annies, and ... : harold.johnson
  • replace week with month in that previous post : harold.johnson
• Last LAN I went to I hosted at my house about 5 years ago. Cooked burgers on the grill with an assortment... : dookiebot
• My university hosts one every semester but they ultimately fail due to organization and planning issues, ... : KangDang
• Not in a long time. Logistically it makes more sense these days since my MBP can play anything, way easie... : Serpico74
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  for the west coasters, upcoming lan parties: http://damnlan.net/ jan 9-10, olympia, washington http:/... : harold.johnson
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    I won 1 gig of corsair extreme ram at the 1st PDX lan like 6 years ago. At the time it was about $350. : sigpro
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      i've won a razer mousepad :/ been going since 6, missed 12 and 14 : harold.johnson
      • I haven't been since that one unfortunately. : sigpro
• used to hold one everyweekend, they were awesome times. not anymore though :( : thekidd
• I have a big LAN party will all my friends once or twice a year, and small LAN parties with 2 or 3 friend... : TheVietSpecial
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  I like to go to this little thing called Quakecon : askedrelic
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    seats are still available for the upcoming one! : harold.johnson
    • supposed to be a reply to sigpro : harold.johnson
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  Going to one tonight. We just do CS1.6 because thats what runs on laptops : retarded talking dinosaur
  • Laptops and CS1.6? Now that's one LAN party I wouldn't mind missing. : atom519
• Not anymore. They were a ton of fun. I met g0nk at a local LAN party years ago (before either of us Sha... : J4NUS
• It's been a while for me. Most recently I've gone to an Ars lan or two in Indy and Cinci, one of my fri... : Freon
• I lan with my buddy pretty frequently when I'm back home. Mad HoMM5 and L4D2. : Navy Spitfire
• DRM has hurt them as well. I remember installing Starcraft / Half-Life/ Quake 3 / UT99 on everyone's ... : kodt
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  For me, there is no substitute for LAN parties. I love playing with a bunch of friends as opposed to rand... : David Craddock
  • David, I totally agree with you. There is no substitute. That's why I continue to run my home LAN (for ... : wytefang
• by no means regularly, I do host and attend the occasional LAN. broadband internet added so much cause th... : cpt_gloval
• i haven't been to a LAN party since before Rosewood was married. : biskits
• My favourite part of LANs is the 5am "omfg im going to die of exhaustion, we've played every game in exis... : Cliffzorz
• We usually have 12 player lans about once every 2 months and we all go to DesertBash in the summer. This ... : TehShadow
• Last one I hit was toolcity's. I miss woodee and starless. : Pneum0
• Not at all, imho. I know of several around my section of the midwest and I run one for family and friend... : wytefang
• we still sort of do this but its more like football/console/pcgames/lotsofdrinking/omfgbbq vs the game on... : metalremains
• Any time my brother is in town he and another friend of ours are always together for 3-person co-op LANs.... : DinK

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  Top 100 PC games or Top 100 games? Can you give us the Top 10? : K1Bond007
  • Take a wild guess given the title of the magazine. : alias
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  wha..whaaaaa? PC Gamer is still alive? : Fredrik S
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    i let my subscription run out when demos on discs became obsolete. : waxthirteen
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      They could still do interesting things with their discs though, and they don't. They could compile differ... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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        They put some unique stuff on there. There's a PC Gamer exclusive level for Dragon Age Origins on there a... : roushimsx
        • That's pretty cool. : The Grolar Bear
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          no wait, the PDF is of the previous issue. Still! It's really neat that they're including it now a days; ... : roushimsx
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            What percent did you scan in of PC Gamer? I remember you getting a lot done. And yeah, I remember that P... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
            • I scanned "a couple hundred" pages total. I have 117 pages done for the issue I'm working on right now an... : roushimsx
  • Sure is ! Look forward to my issue every month. : Sgt_Boomstick
• Logan Decker is the EIC now? that guy is cool. and he has a great '70s sci-fi protagonist name. : Dave-A
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  what rank is xcom? If it's not #1 your mag may have a misprint : deadfish
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    This is accurate. Though Deus Ex is pretty freaking awesome. : hussdelrio
    • he won't tell us :[ : deadfish
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  Deus Ex is listed as #1 : phate81
  • as it should be!! If Ultima VII isn't tied with Deus Ex or at the very least #2 i will be upset though. : kbnerd
  • well it is pretty good but I think half life had a lot more effect on later games and was just as fun, ev... : deadfish
  • Oh boy what a choice : MercFox1
  • It's still the game that blew me away more than any other, I simply couldn't stop playing it and it's HUG... : node
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  Roushi can you list out the top ten then? Alpha centuri was the only 100 score from what I remember. : stgdz
  • ung SO not 100 :p : deadfish
  • I think it got 98% : Mecha Tofu Pirate
  • http://images.roushimsx.com/scans/PCGamer_1999_04_pg092.jpg http://images.roushimsx.com/scans/PCGamer_19... : roushimsx
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  10. The Secret Of Monkey Island 9. Battlefield 2 8. Doom 7. System Shock 2 6. Rome: Total War (WTF?)... : phate81
  • Where's thief and thief 2 on their list? : Omning
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    BF2 over 1942 is a huge wtf as well. : pyide
    • Agreed. : NFXFSX
    • yup : qwpeoriu
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      BF2 brought the squad system, commander, and better supportive role for classes which really improved on ... : Zoopy_Iscariot
      • But the game itself wasn't as balanced or fun. For a game focused on vehicular combat the most popular ma... : pyide
      • I did like the squad dynamic in BF2. It's fun to run around doing some ballsy stuff with a crack team of ... : Orange Pylon
    • yes : deadfish
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      Bf2 will always be better than 42. Nostalgia is. Bitch on the shack. : Sgt_Boomstick
      • I played BF2 for a month or two before I got annoyed with it. I played BF1942 for years because it was a ... : pyide
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    Some other notables: 25. Diablo 2 23. Baldurs Gate 2 18. Operation Flashpoint 15. WoW : phate81
    • is tribes on there? if not the entire list is invalid : gmd
    • wow beats bg2. Oh god, that annoys me. WoW isn't bad, but it's still an MMO and it plays like an MMO. ... : valael
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    Rome Total War belongs on a top 10 list. Combined roleplaying with turn based gaming with real time stra... : twifosp
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      I dunno, seemed like a pretty big let down after Medieval: Total War. : phate81
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        R:TW is where they stopped using sprites for the battlefield units, no? that's a pretty big technical lea... : dirge23
        • Also it had a story. And a plot twist. And the retinue which gave your armies stats. And the retinue w... : twifosp
      • I am now convinced you never played more than 10 minutes of Rome! : twifosp
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      yes, rome is very good. I like the medieval games more because of the setting (and the tech/mods for MTWI... : Foxhawk
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        Did you ever play the realism mod for Rome? I'm the exact opposite. Thought the mod scene for rome ... : twifosp
        • don't think I have. I quit playing rome (didn't like the period) and never started again. I'm at home t... : Foxhawk
      • Yea the Roman period turned me off a bit too, I think. There just isn't as much variety in the weaponry a... : phate81
  • Battlefield 2, eh? That's gotta be a controversial choice. Personally, I think it's a pretty good game no... : Orange Pylon
  • No XCOM? ZOMG hats BULLSHIT : bolneze
  • So awesome that secret of monkey island is on there. : atom519
  • Wheres starcraft? : spectr3
  • missing starcraft : Foxhawk
  • I definitely agree about those top three. : KangDang
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    Half Life 2 over Half Life, that's just not right. Half Life was a fucking revolutionary experience at th... : uncleanmonkey
    • ^^^ IAWTP : The Grolar Bear
  • paging wtf242 to list thread : Omning
  • Star Craft belongs where Morrowind is. : one random winner
  • Personally I think Starcraft is number 1, then scoot everything in that list down one notch. : MercFox1
  • I find the lack of anything from Bioware or Blizzard in the top 10 interesting, I'd probably have Starcra... : veras
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    Any "top PC games" list that excludes X-Com is a steamy pile : hussdelrio
    • this. : deadfish
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      you'd love this list then. a) It's ranked #11 b) the opening line of the blurb is "Attention everyone ... : roushimsx
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        i bet most people have never played it : deadfish
        • Probably. :( Damn shame, because the game has actually aged pretty well. : roushimsx
        • I have terror from the deep on steam and I quit after 20 minutes of trying to figure out what the fuck I'... : aeg1x
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    Deus Ex was so amazing I played the statue of liberty demo for a solid 5 minutes before coming to the con... : gmd
    • your loss : Korban
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      Wow, I loved the Statue of Liberty level, there are so many different ways to complete it. I never unders... : phate81
      • I guess I missed this post only moments ago when I made mine. : SockMonkeh
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      A lot of people did that. I was one of them. I gave it another chance after friends kept saying it was br... : nudel
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        yeah i failed to pass the Statute level like 3 times before i managed to plow through and get sucked into... : dirge23
        • Statue, even, sheesh : dirge23
      • yeah to play Deus Ex you need to get over the idea that you can play the first level as you would play th... : mikecyb
    • That level did that to me like 3 times before I finally just pushed through and the game got really good.... : zakazi
    • giant metal dog you are missing out bigtime : hussdelrio
    • I mean, the first level isn't exactly a smooth opening but it's not as convoluted as people seem to think... : Marrbe
    • The first level is pretty good, but maybe a bit too much to handle as the first level in the game. By may... : Orange Pylon
    • I did not make it past that level and moved on to other games. : pimpium
    • Don't worry I did the same thing. It also ran like a turd and no my machine wasn't a gimp. : erebus
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      Am I the only person who didn't feel this way about the first level of the game? : SockMonkeh
      • I didn't mind it at all. I don't understand everybody's problem with the first level. I thought it was a ... : The Grolar Bear
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      My Deus Ex experience: A few years ago I bought it online and tried to play it just to see what it wa... : haiku
      • It was for the best. Deus Ex wasn't intended for the incompetent. : lechuck59
      • we both missed out on the best game ever made in the history of the universe. I have brought shame to my... : gmd
    • I was in the same boat. I slaved through it, however. That lead me to one of the most memorable gaming ... : kingdepork
  • missing Duke3D.exe : Korban
  • Ultima VII?!?!! Where is it? Has everyone in the world gone INSANE? : AxeMan808
  • Yeah, I'll take it. : freakynipples69
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    *choke* Deus Ex? Hahahahaha....oh come on. : virus
    • >:( : freakynipples69
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    no starcraft = joke list : Benefit
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      Starcraft is in the Top 25 : roushimsx
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        So is rome:total war, apparently. Leaving SC out of Top 5 makes a list a joke : Benefit
        • top 1 imo : Blucklesworth
        • The list phate81 posted isn't real. : roushimsx
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    this list fucking sucks. there's no reason to have a single sequel in the top 10. : gokart.
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      sequels are often much better executed than their predecessors : dirge23
      • yeah i guess from a purely quality consciousness fashion that is correct. i was imposing some sort of "mo... : gokart.
  • <game> <is|is not> in position <number>, this list is bullshit : dirge23
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    Correct List: 1.Deus Ex 2.HalfLife 3.Counterstrike 4.Diablo2 5.Civilization 4 6.Baldur's Gate 2 ... : locater16
    • I'd almost agree with that, except for BG2 being 6 and CS being 3. And out of personal preference, I'd p... : valael
  • I can agree with that list. : Sgt_Boomstick
  • How about this: 1) Half-Life 2) Fallout 3) Starcraft 4) Deus Ex 5) Half-Life 2 6) Diablo 2 7) ... : The Grolar Bear
  • Not a bad top 10 except for #1. I remember loving Deus Ex but not that much. : Pettytheft
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    No Master of Orion 2? Replace Civ 4 with SMAC or even Civ2 : Sailor of Fortune
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      Homeworld better be in the Top 20. : Sailor of Fortune
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        Top 30 ok? : roushimsx
        • Bastards! : Sailor of Fortune
  • fuck this list, no tie fighter in the #1 slot. : dextius
• Cool! Not a half-bad choice for the top spot either. Deus Ex gave you so many ways to interact with both ... : Orange Pylon
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  Any top ten best PC games of all time need the following titles or risk not being taken seriously: X-C... : ajvitaly
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    I think you mean Civ 1, 2, or 4 (and really, it would be 2 or 4) : veras
    • ^this man is correct. : one random winner
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    I'm surprised by Starcraft's longevity. I haven't played an RTS since Warcraft 2 and have never seen S... : nudel
    • StarCraft had a lot of subtleties that needed a large amount of playing to truly be understood, such as j... : one random winner
    • I think it's the combination of being ridiculously easily accessible for the masses, and having nearly pe... : Blucklesworth
    • It's a Blizzard game. Of course it didn't do anything new, but at the same time, I don't know what dumbas... : Benefit
    • I don't remember anything about the initial reaction but like most Blizzard games it didn't do anything r... : Zek
    • Turned out to be the Chess of RTS. : Marrbe
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      I remember not picking it up for quite a while because it looked like a c&c clone. WTF, couldn't blizzar : capt tripps
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        Oh, and Warcraft 2 was the shiznit. It's a damn shame that WC4 will probably be more like WC3 than WC2. ... : capt tripps
        • I didn't take to WC3 at all. Age of Mythology out classed that game. : Sailor of Fortune
    • The mediocre reviews you remember are probably how terrible the balancing was early on in SC. One side wa... : Sailor of Fortune
  • Good list. I'd pick HL 1 and Civ 2 from those, and add Baldur's Gate 2 and Thief. : Marrbe
  • Total annihilation : hobosapien
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    C&C has not aged well and the only versions available anymore are the Win95 version (which is absolute tr... : roushimsx
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      What about the Win95 version? Works fine for me, it's just the original in a higher resolution. : Marrbe
      • It's extremely unstable :( It seems like a majority of the stability problems cropped up for me in the... : roushimsx
• the Shack list was better. : m0rfus
• Um, Baldur's Gate II? : Navy Spitfire
• They have Doom as #30 or something. All credibility destroyed. As everyone knows, the top 30 games on any... : jet-poop
• Woooo!!! DX!!!! : senseimoron
• I agree with the #1 pick. : GreatGooglyMoogly
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  Could you give us the info about Crysis 2? It was supposed to be on the cover. : CrabsJarrard
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    It's just two screenshots (one of which is quite large) and a few paragraphs of text. Mostly jerking off ... : roushimsx
    • Thanks! : CrabsJarrard

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  Hey, what are the keys/commands to get no cockpit and the mech damage layout on the left there? : loboca
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    I was zoomed. : trOmblyj
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      also I was in a tank not a mech - so my damage is on the right - the damage display on the left is from t... : trOmblyj
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        why does it show his opposite arm as missing from the one that appears to be missing in-game? : yacoub35
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          Maybe it's because the diagram shows the mech from behind. I think that was the way it was with the chart... : genericuser
          • ah, interesting. used to a front view. sort of makes more sense since you face your opponent. : yacoub35
        • Yeah, I just noticed that too. This could drastically improve my ability to take out weapons on mechs! : SockMonkeh
    • Ah. There's just a few tweaks I need to get it looking good. : loboca
• whoa, must buy crysis. : wurt
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  Also, localized damage is pretty awesome, I was shooting the rocket pod off RetroRedEyedJr last night and... : trOmblyj
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    My favorite is still making a 'mech go critical. So easy to do on the Scout mechs too when you are packin... : SusanTD
    • there is a console command you can run to increase your sound channels - I haven't tried it yet. s_sou... : trOmblyj
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  I'm installing Crysis tonight to join in. Do I need Warhead or is the Vanilla just fine? : zuff
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    vanilla patched to 1.2.1 : trOmblyj
    • sweet thanks! look forward to playing with yall : zuff
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  Couple other screenshots: Core breech! http://pics.notforjeff.com/gallery.php?entry=Images/MechWarrio... : trOmblyj
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    That is fantastic looking : MercFox1
    • are we looking at the same screenshots? : waxthirteen
• I dont really play games on shack servers, but when I'm back with my computer, I'm going to have to join ... : RhinoX
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  Oh crap, there's a patch already? : KangDang
  • http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/16255/MechWarrior:+Living+Legends+Open+Beta+v1+Hotfix+1 : trOmblyj
  • yeah, 4 hours on a 32 player server last night, only 1 crash for me. (very good improvement) : MaverickOrig
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  I really need to get crysis to stop CTD. Does anyone else have problems running it with an 8800 GTS? : hbalce1
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    I have an 8800 GT ... something, and have had no issues. don't know my driver versions off hand tho. : loboca
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      If you get a chance to check, can you SM me the version you are using please. : hbalce1
      • Sure, I'll check when I get home tonight. : loboca
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  Come on Steam sale! I must get in on this.... : funnynamehere
  • I hope it goes on sale - we need more players! : trOmblyj
  • agreed. If it goes on sale, I'm in. : jonin
• i wish i owned crysis :( : ass-street
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  Found my Crysis DVD, just lack a proper control setup :( All I have is x360 controller or kb+mouse. : yacoub35
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    I really have no idea how to drive a mech without my spaceorb 360. : Omning
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      it was all about the Sidewinder joysticks. MS made the perfect mech controllers. torso twist, throttle. e... : yacoub35
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        I still have my sidewinder, just haven't got the layout setup in the XML file yet :| : loboca
        • I'm stuck on that part for my Logitech 3D : trOmblyj
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    KB & Mouse should be fine. Me? I'll be pulling out my very dusty x45. : jasoncrowley
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      nice! i had one of those Saiteks. Decent stick. kb+mouse sucks for mech piloting though. torso twist thro... : yacoub35
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        i may have to make a trip to BestBuy today to pick up a Saitek :( : yacoub35
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          If you can wait a few days for delivery, gogamer has a sick sale going. http://www.gogamer.com/Saitek-X52... : AgentPothead
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            thx for the heads up, but that's a bit beyond what i was thinking of getting. i don't intend to go full f... : yacoub35
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              Once you go HOTAS you never go back! : AgentPothead
              • Unf, that is nice. I may have to order that tomorrow once I get paid. : hbalce1
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                What he said. HOTAS + Mech = PPC Barrage heaven. : jasoncrowley
                • Dammit... now I want this http://www.gogamer.com/Saitek-Pro-Flight-Rudder-Pedals-Joysticks_stcVVproductId... : jasoncrowley
    • I hope it still works. I stopped using mine for a couple months and it wouldn't center (the actual stick... : valael
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  anyone have weapon damage stats/charts? (I'm curious to the alpha strike potential per weapon) : MaverickOrig
  • awww... the Lead Sound Dev said "We currently have no intention of posting the damage and durability valu : MaverickOrig
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  you have GOT to be kidding me. I try to run Crysis and get some CD Check followed by "Conflict with Emula : yacoub35
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    AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR : r3dn3ck
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      you forgot the GH on the end. ARGH would be right. really annoying being treated like a pirate when i don... : yacoub35
      • update: took care of that nonsense! Onward with the MW:LL! : yacoub35
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  wow this is quite confusing to try to get controls working right. stuff is getting mapped to multiple fun... : yacoub35
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    Yeah, I'm using Mouse/Kb and its working out pretty good for me with minimum frustration. : trOmblyj
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      Yeah, I'm using Mouse/Kb and I can't get it to do things the way i want at all through the in-game menus.... : yacoub35
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        You can edit the actionmap file (you should have copied one in to your profile folders during install) to... : trOmblyj
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          yeah, that's what I'm going to do next. just got back from picking up a joystick. : yacoub35
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            I'm going to go pick up a 5850 after work. : loboca
            • nice! this game is a bit harsh on my 8800GT. : yacoub35
      • The config menu is NOT at all ready for our game. Its still the same as crysis, and yes using it will res... : Toth21
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  I have one question. Does the game have an Alpha strike button? : Crimsonbeak
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    Mouse 1? : MaverickOrig
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      if a laser / PPC / LRM rig, be ready to jam 'C' to clear out that heat. : MaverickOrig
      • or explode like a fucking hero : deadfish
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    what about a Align-Legs-to-Torso button? That was very useful in MW games. : yacoub35
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      Hmm, I see a Center Torso button. Nice. : yacoub35
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        Where do you see this? in the XML? : loboca
        • yes. no luck getting it to work yet though. : yacoub35
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    I dont see a way to manually set up your groups so you can have one group shoot everything to mimic an al... : yacoub35
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      click right arrow until you're on group 6 ( click enter + click down arrow ) repeat until all guns are i... : MaverickOrig
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        thanks, I'll give that a shot sometime. Too much else isn't working though, so for now piloting mechs is ... : yacoub35
        • Too much else? What do you mean? : Toth21
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  What do you do when your mech can't fight no more? When your mech looses a leg or looses a few arms or... : MaverickOrig
  • jump out and go all Shadow of the Colossus on someone else's mech?? : mwasher
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    I took the leg off of RetroRedEyedJr's mech last night and he jumped out, then proceeded to kill me and S... : trOmblyj
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      Battle Armor seems way too effective to me but that could just because I am no good. : SockMonkeh
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        no it really is way to effective. they need to tone that down or maybe even give a bit of autoaim against... : RetroRedEyeJr
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          I can say as a Dev the two problems right now are server lag and lack of experience. Its not too hard to ... : Toth21
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            The problem I've been having is that you don't even see the BAs until they're right on top of you. And b... : Majuju
            • That is intentional actually, but there will be more work done on BA balance in general. Its just unlikel... : Toth21
  • physical damage is a part of the tabletop game. it is fun to pick up a limb from the battlefield and bas... : cygnus
  • Best is when your head gets wrecked but you're not dead - you can't eject, you just have to sit there and... : Majuju
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  I wish there was a way to put the female cockpit voice into this, I'd be in MechWarrior heaven :P : trOmblyj
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    She's in there, but we need to add her to more things. : Landrosradick
    • Awesome! : trOmblyj
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  Why does it look so poo? Are the graphics turned down a fair bit? : Klebold
  • you need to see it in motion to see how good it looks and also to understand the scale that it's at. : RetroRedEyeJr
  • Marshes is a very fun map, but I will admit it doesn't look the sexiest in screen shot form. Trust me it ... : Toth21
• I tired installing this and it failed completely. Now all I have is crysis that's missing bunch of text... : Malku
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  Man. I have got to grab this when I get back home. : Damodred
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    The HUD brings back memories. Are you guys working on any SP content or is it all multi? : Damodred
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      Multi only, getting workable AI in SP would be extremely hard at best, and to be honest as a mod team we ... : Toth21
      • I can imagine. Mad props for what you've already done! : Damodred
• Can I get the server info this? Also, I'm completely and utterly new to Mech Warrior (yeah, I know), s... : IndigoAK

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  I think Scavenge would serve better for a tournament. The gamemode is really under-represented in the Sha... : vile
  • I haven't played scavenge at all yet so I will look into it. I figured with VS mode we could do somethin... : ant_hillbilly
• I would be down for a VS tournament! : NexusOne
• DEFINITELY - but I too think scavenge would be better : flagg209
• It's not a competitive "sport" unless you always group with the same 3 other people and try to learn the ... : MoreVespeneGas
• Scavange makes more sense. The random nature of versus makes people cry during normal games, so I can't i... : Serpico74
• I would be up for a scavenge tournament. I try to shy away from VS games since they take over an hour to... : rheroux
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  It could be a draft tourney - players enter as individuals and teams are made day of randomly. This coul... : flagg209
  • I think the idea is to have the tournament last longer than a day. But drafting teams is the way to go. : edgewise
• Scavenge! : MercFox1
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  yeah, I'd be up for it. picking teams will be difficult though. : edgewise
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    if the TF2 tourneys were any indication picking teams was the easy part. Organizing the matches and actua... : pyide
    • Part of that was because we did a 12v12 tournament. Getting a team of 6 to show can be hard enough, it's ... : terath
  • I think it should be organized by region/city. So it'd be like a football team or something. : Sailor of Fortune
• I am interested buy currently under heavy time restraits. I will be away fro suitable internet connection... : VectorJKL
• Yeah scavenge sounds like the way to go. I'm interested that's for sure. : Alco23
• QUESTION in Vs do both teams receive the same special infected in the same order? For example, if one te... : Boxelder
• definitely scavenge : Nitrium
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  I'd be interested but I'd be the fat kid with glasses in the gym since I've never actually played online. : Omning
  • you should play with us, online! there are versus games nightly. : pyide
  • No time better to start than now. See you tonight! : VectorJKL
• I would play, but only if it is on fridays/saturdays or after 10:45 est every other night. Working 1:30-1... : President Robert E. Lee
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  SA is doing one, and they did one for L4D1 as well. Just a few notes from looking on the outside in: Th... : bipolar
  • Yeah, this is what I would probably recommend. : Lexicon_Leidun
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  So looks like there is some interest. I will try to play some scavenge games and then post again for mor... : ant_hillbilly
  • If it ends up being Scavenge (which I would personally not prefer), I'd say one round of best-of-5 (or 7)... : bipolar
• Spreadsheet this! : Sailor of Fortune
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  To make your life easier, I'd suggest just using twl rules: http://www.teamwarfare.com/rulechooser.asp : terath
  • Oh, apparently they only have L4D 1 rules. Still worth taking and adjusting rather than doing it from scr... : terath
• Yeah sure, I'd enjoy that :) I'm the Special Infected killer. I had something like 30 special infected k... : jamesray
• This is a great idea. I had a blast with TF2 tourny and I think this would be much easier to manage. I wo... : theWhite
• I'd do it! : J4NUS
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  I'm in! Looking forward to being slaughtered by ringer teams like TF2 :/ : bashildy@speakeasy.net
  • The teams would be random draw. I think its the best. This is all for fun. : ant_hillbilly
• I'd be in! : kainen1
• I'd be down. : bld
• Count me in. : jimmy-buffett
• I'd love to but I work nights so it usually screws me on scheduling. : intothefray
• Count me in! : flubba79
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  Someone should create a steam group for this and then pick captains etc etc. : norulez
  • http://steamcommunity.com/groups/SNL4D2T There. Join or w/e : President Robert E. Lee
• i'm down : Dschinghis Khan
• Let's do this! : Space Cadet Harris
• ooh i'd like to participate! :D : riedlos

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  holy shit 5 MILLION copies are pirated? what the fuck? : Downforce
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    Yeah shouldn't those pirated copies be considered console copies really HAW. : SpaecKow
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      I wonder what impact a missing 300 million dollars in gross revenue will have. I would be quite motivated... : Downforce
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        I hate to stir up the topic, but they didn't "lose" 300 million dollars. Besides, they made 300 millio... : the archvile
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          it has to be stirred up. yes, they empirically lost 300 million dollars due to piracy. there is no other ... : Downforce
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            I think what he's saying is that since it's binary code they didn't "lose" money. If they produced 5 mill... : phipple
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              No, I was thinking more along the lines of "if they didn't steal it, most probably wouldn't have bought i... : the archvile
              • ^^ This right here. : erebus
          • It's a comparison to an ideal that can't be reached. There are some people who steal stuff. Any publish... : the archvile
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            you're going to start an epic subthread by arguing that. What you're suggesting is that if piracy was not... : aeg1x
            • Thank you; this is the original point I was trying to convey. Sadly there are a few key demographics who... : the archvile
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              So you're arguing that most o those people would not pay even a cent for the game if piracy we're not an ... : DialDforDan
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                Assuming that all of them would or could also doesn't work : semaphore
                • So we agree both ends of the spectrum are stupid assertions, but even a 25% assumption means over 1 milli... : DialDforDan
              • I don't know what the breakdown is but I wouldn't be surprised if a big chunk just wouldn't ever pay, yea... : aeg1x
              • There's people pirate games just to hoard them. They don't even play it. : Sailor of Fortune
          • "people are using the product at full capacity and didn't pay anything for it" but this is untrue, and... : gokart.
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            So many ASSUMPTIONS. #1 : Proof that 5 million functional copies were actually downloaded. #2 : Proo... : yacoub35
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              Indeed, let us ignore the fairly obvious point that IW probably lost in excess of 100 million dollars (th... : DialDforDan
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                That's the cost of doing business. It sucks but that's just how it is, I'm sure they will keep making awe... : MagicWishMonkey
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                  'the cost of doing business' seems a bit absurd. Do any other industries accept a loss margin like that? ... : DialDforDan
                  • They made half a billion dollars on MW2, I'm not worried. And yes, lots of businesses have to account ... : MagicWishMonkey
                  • This is not the same as other businesses. Its not like the pirates stole a cargo trucks full on games tha... : theWhite
            • #3: None of the pirates bought the game on release (it was out like a month before official release). ... : MagicWishMonkey
            • for #1, I'm obviously leaning 100% on that torrent tracker report. for #2 we can argue that and chisel ... : Downforce
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  Party's Over! : cockysock
  • Take a time out! : Sailor of Fortune
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  I don't get it. : Freon
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    The PC version crashed because of a bug in the Xbox 360 version of the game. : IndigoAK
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      404 funny not found. I mean so what there is the word "xbox" in some component or function they use? : Freon
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        Except it says 'XBOXLIVE_PARTYENDED' : pancake humper
        • probably so used to playing on his x360 he didn't even think about that part of it. : yacoub35
  • PC version throwing an error because of an XBOX feature (live party) : multisync
  • They probably forgot to change a few enum strings in the IWNet-based multiplayer code. Or, if I wanted... : the archvile
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    To me, it suggests that they created IWNet to have the exact same programming interface as Xbox Live. If ... : rock elf
    • Yup. The funny part is that they had an existing server-client codebase from CoD4, but at some point the : the archvile
    • I'm pretty sure this is exactly what they did. They want to have the game be exactly the same for everyo... : deject
    • I guess it always seemed obvious to me. Why would anyone buy that shit to begin with. Not joking. : Freon
• lol : Godhatesfatpeople
• It's a little sickening how that site basically lauds the massive piracy of this game. I get it, you don'... : DialDforDan
• I love the console in the background. Takes me back to Quake 3, for obvious reasons. : rock elf
• A whole site dedicated to bashing a game. Wow. : Fred Garvin

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  35 f/1.4L is no joke either. damn that's a $1500 lens : whereiwannab
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    Wow, I thought the 1.2s were $1600! Those 1.2s are fucking mental. And huge! I have a shot lit by teal... : Wheatloaf
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      Canon doesn't make a 35 1.2, you are thinking of the 50 : scythide
      • I want the leica 50mm f 0.95 : gmd
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        Or 85 : Jimbo Ro
        • I think there's a wider one at 1.2 as well. That series is amazing. : Wheatloaf
  • Yep, it's gorgeous too :(, looks large than my XSi with it on there. : dravalen
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  We just picked up the 45mm TS for our studio... it's fun (and totally necessary for product photography) : Ormsbee
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    Your studio isn't hiring by chance, is it? Semi-serious question. : Lone Swordsman
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      Actually we are, although it's going to be run a bit differently than a normal studio. Send me an SM if ... : Ormsbee
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        You should hire sparkly. : Ellissd
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          We've talked about it, actually, but I honestly have no desire to be in Albuquerque :/ Sorry, Ormsbee :[ : sparkly
          • No worries. This town isn't for anyone. : Ormsbee
      • Hire me too, ok : n0v4
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  The wide ts isn't nearly as cool as the longer one. The 90 is a 2.8 as well, whereas the 45 is a 3.5 I t... : Wheatloaf
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    Here are some 90mm ts 2.8 shots taken at around 1/8000th shutter out the window of a vehicle going about ... : Wheatloaf
    • That's some nifty stuff. I bring my XSi in with me every day so when it show's up he's offered to let me ... : dravalen
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      Needs more topless pics of eve. : sigpro
      • Shooting around her underwear was a real pain. I wish she just would have trusted us and trusted editing... : Wheatloaf
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  I don't get why you'd pend all that money on TS :( : drucifer
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    No? I quite like the effect. I use it a lot for slow motion b roll in corporate/commercial type stuff. ... : Wheatloaf
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      ok, well, I could see it for film... I've just seen it overused (or improperly used) in still shots far t... : drucifer
      • Yeah, I guess with deep focus you could mimic it pretty well in post... In film I may move the focus in s... : Wheatloaf
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    It's one of the only ways to get product or architectural photos to come out perfectly. We use ours fo... : Ormsbee
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      So it's worth the price to not have to do it in post? I'm an in-camera guy by default, but it is an inte... : Wheatloaf
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        Yeah... it's worth it specifically for food. If you're shooting something like a steak, you can get the ... : Ormsbee
        • Oh, and my new favorite thing is to shoot groups of people from a ladder, looking down at them, and as lo... : Ormsbee
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          i need to hang out at your place more often. why didnt you txt me about the BBQ? ass. : m0rfus
          • lol... I don't think that BBQ happened, but we're almost always hanging out/cooking. Just let me know wh... : Ormsbee
  • TS can be used in a gimmicky way, but for landscape, architecture and product photography it has a lot of... : piser
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  I went to the camera store today to look at random things and I was drooling over a bunch of nikon lenses... : sparkly
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    Yah, I've got a 430Ex II flash that's supposed to show up tomorrow, can't wait to start playing around wi... : dravalen
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      I've been triggering my sb-800 with the on-camera popup flash (commander mode) for years now, but I just ... : sparkly
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        Wow, this is the first time I've seen you post something like this. Good post. : Wheatloaf
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          I've been doing a crapload of tests with the commander mode and it's become quite apparent that the popup... : sparkly
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            I know 0 things about flash, my lights are all always on. I'm glad you're testing and evaluating your ... : Wheatloaf
            • Ahh, no worries. Well, when I get this stuff I'll take it into the used camera store and test it out in t... : sparkly
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            I know the strobist guy raves about the Vivitar 285HV, they're like $80 or so. : dravalen
            • I just bought one and love it. : drucifer
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              the 285HV kicks the shit out of the 580EX II in regards to pure power. I've had to radically adjust my th... : MisterPhoton
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                How well does the manual adjusting work, the amount of granularity in power seemed kinda small when I was... : dravalen
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                  Yeah, I was wondering that as well? THe sb-800 can go from full power to 1/128 with intermediate steps be... : sparkly
                  • hmm..only goes to 1/16th power? : sparkly
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    I just bought a Canon FD 35-105 3.5 to go on my F-1. It's probably going to be the last FD lens I buy, u... : the archvile
    • I have one! : copy paper
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    the new lenses are retardedly expensive, I can't fucking take it. the 70-200 is $2400 for fucks sake. : gmd
    • This is what happens when the dollar loses value against the yen... sucks! : piser
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      Which 70-200 is that? most of the Canon ones are around $1400. : dravalen
      • f/2.8 vr II : gmd

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• Demon's Souls, Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, God of War, Little Big Planet, InFamous Vs. Halo, Forza, Gears... : walker270
• with the ps3 you get bluray too : multisync
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  Do you have a Bluray player? Is Multiplayer *super* important to you? Are there truly-exclusive 360 games... : aggressor
  • oops, I left out part of the last part. It should read: Are there truly-exclusive 360 games (as in stuff ... : aggressor
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  360's still RROD a lot, just not quite as much as they used to afaik. I cant manage to convince myself t... : deskill
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    PS3s have dead bluray drives and the YLOD. It probably isn't as bad, but it's still a pretty apparent pro... : aggressor
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      Yule Log of Death? I'm unfamiliar with YLOD. : deskill
      • Yellow Light of Death. It's the PS3 equivalent of the 360 RROD, except without the frequency. : walker270
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    The best way to avoid the RROD is to try and get a Jasper unit. It can be identified by looking through ... : .Jayson
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      I tore my box a little bit the day I headed down to bestbuy to replace a Halo edition RR to get a jasper.... : deskill
      • Jasper is the first unit to have a die-shrunk GPU which runs cooler. Since the GPU was the main heat-caus... : Bold
      • I agree it's too early to tell. I planned to sit it out a bit until the hardware got better (after 2 of ... : .Jayson
    • My new elite (Jasper) runs a LOT cooler than my old and dead Falcon. The back vent of a Falcon feels li... : DrZettl
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  Wait....so you've missed out on FF7-10? Along with...well every playstation title? At this point, its abo... : sreyes22
  • Yeah, and I only have Disgaea 1 for the DS. : capt tripps
  • it's not like there isn't plenty of other games to play. I never touched any of the PS1 or 2 games and I... : valael
• For the multiplayer go with the 360. Live is pretty damn awesome. PSN is free, but you hardly get anybo... : .Jayson
• If you have a solid PC, I'd probably pick up a PS3. I think it makes a better complement. If you do a com... : qwpeoriu
• PS3. If you have a solid PC and your focus isn't multiplayer (XBL is great for that), I think a PS3 is th... : veras
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  PS3 Pros: Larger HDD and ability to upgrade MGS4, LBP, inFamous, KZ2, God of War Blu-Ray PS1 Classic... : President Robert E. Lee
  • most 360 games are not 1080p natively : qwpeoriu
  • I think you confused internal rendering resolution (which is 720p *or lower* on most titles) and scaled o... : aggressor
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    "Batteries" listed under 360 cons? I think the idea that we can actually change the batteries is a good t... : edgewise
    • Yep, I completely prefer how the 360 does it compared to the PS3. I even like the added weight\heft becau... : aggressor
    • You can charge your ds3 off a pc just fine. I've charged it off my laptop while playing. : sigpro
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      PS3 controllers have to be charged with an extremely short USB cord, and it won't charge when the console... : Zek
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        or you could spend $3 for a longer cable, its pretty hard to do though you have to know how to plug usb c... : grendel
        • I am not buying that just out of principle, that's even worse than the lack of component cables. : Zek
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          They have to be charged with a really short USB cord. There are no other alternatives. A laptop on th : walker270
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            NO it's not. I have charged my DS3 off a fucking laptop in my fucking lap while playing the fucking PS3. : sigpro
            • He's just trying to be cute. : aggressor
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              I think I overflowed your sarcasm meter. :( : walker270
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                your post was unfortunately way to much like the typical shack serious bitch post for me to fully grasp. : sigpro
                • I thought listing a handful of alternatives (that happen to be within about 5 feet of my PS3) would have ... : walker270
            • it was an attempt at humor :) : qwpeoriu
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        yea, this is the wire I use : Ellissd
        • ..uhh.. to charge one of my controllers using my television. : Ellissd
      • I just have an old powered USB hub to charge my PS3 and Wii controllers by the couch. No wires running a... : .Jayson
      • Similar to a rechargeable system for the 360, I just spent $20 on an AC -> USB Nyko recharging kit. I jus... : Entity
    • They removed charging via USB when the PS3 is off in one of the older firmware updates. Likely due to sys... : Sailor of Fortune
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      I use my television to charge one of my controllers. For my second controller, if the battery needs recha... : Ellissd
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        Check out eneloops. Best rechargeable batteries ever. : aggressor
        • Another vouch here : Sailor of Fortune
      • couch? god damn i've been doing that shit a lot lately. : Ellissd
    • Oh oh, you just opened a Can O' Worms TM : Fred Garvin
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    The 'bad triggers' on the PS3 controller are fixed with these: http://www.amazon.com/PS3-Dual-Triggers... : aggressor
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      another vote for RealTriggers, they are awesome and they never pop off : grendel
      • Mine did, well the left one did. Not frequently but it did a few times while going through UC1 and 2. Sti... : qwpeoriu
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      cool thats one thing that really sucks about the controllers. also wish they were a bit larger. they fe... : dantastic
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        I think that feeling comes from just how light they are. I much prefer the weight of the 360s : aggressor
        • you're probably right : dantastic
    • The lower triggers have never been the ones which bothered me about the PS3. It was L1/R1 that get on my ... : Entity
    • Yeah, I bought a pair and it makes the triggers tolerable. : Fred Garvin
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    Wifi in the PS3 stinks. I use a tomato router for both my PS3 and 360 now. I had the 360 wireless dong... : Sailor of Fortune
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      My first gen PS3 wifi sucked, but the wifi in the Slim works quite well for me. I can download at near ma... : aggressor
      • That's good to hear. I was really disappointed that the wifi on my PSP and NDS had better reliability tha... : Sailor of Fortune
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    How do the stores compare? I completely missed ALL the XBOX, PS1 and PS2 games. : capt tripps
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      They both generally have the same games, though the Originals XBOX store is LAME AS HELL. The PS1 Classic... : President Robert E. Lee
      • When i say Same Games i strictly mean arcade games, not classic titles. Those obviously will vary. There ... : President Robert E. Lee
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    sexy UI and web browser aren't really great pros : dantastic
    • with a lap top, 2 PC's and 2 iphones in my home, you would be suprised how often i use the web browser. A... : President Robert E. Lee
  • Neither the PS3 or 360 run most games in 1080p, you're wrong there. : Begawkiness
  • You can use Facebook, Twitter, Pandora, and Last.fm through the PS3 browser. : irrerno
• I went and picked up one today, with God of War collection and infamous. I plan to use it for the exclusi... : bigblack
• I wanted to buy a PS3 because it's one of the best Blu-ray players available. Then I discovered my PC has... : matthaeus
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  Out of interest, are there games available on both PS3 and PC, but not on 360? : blearey
  • Final Fantasy VII.....technically. : President Robert E. Lee
  • Trine. Although that's coming to xbox eventually. : Frank_Mackey
• THERE IS ONLY WAR! : Earl Greigh
• This might sound a bit weird, but I got a PS3 recently and I think it probably makes the most sense for a... : dfay
• If you like Multiplayer games go for the 360. If you don't have Blu-Ray and you want Hi-Def then get a PS... : Pettytheft
• Sounds like Demon's Souls would be up your alley. Maybe that Valkyria Chronicles thing, too. X360 has ... : Damodred
• first criteria is whether you'd like to play with friends and what system they have. Sounds liike that m... : DinK
• Both great systems, I think YOU will enjoy the PS3 more though. : SiW.
• If you just want to play games and maybe DVDs; get a x360 If you want a home media centre device; grab a... : SigENeaT