Nintendo says Switch is a home console 'first and foremost,' not necessarily successor to 3DS

The Wii U will become scarce as the Switch's March 2017 launch nears.

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In an interview with Polygon, a Nintendo representative clarified that it thinks of its upcoming Switch console—previously codenamed the "NX"—as a home gaming system first and foremost, and that it will continue to support 3DS handhelds

"Nintendo Switch is a home gaming system first and foremost. We have made no announcement regarding the future of Nintendo 3DS. “Obviously with sales of almost 60 million 3DS portables worldwide, there’s still a huge hunger for new games, such as Pokémon Sun and Pokémon Moon. There are many more games in the pipeline."

On the other hand, the Wii U will become scarce as the Switch's March 2017 launch nears.

"We have nothing to announce about the production status of Wii U," Nintendo told Polygon. "We announced in April 2016 that as we prepare for the launch of Nintendo Switch in March of 2017, Nintendo will ship 800,000 Wii U hardware units to the global market for this fiscal year. As a result, the inventory of Wii U hardware at retail will become harder to find. We encourage anyone who wants Wii U to communicate with their preferred retail outlet to monitor availability."

Nintendo announced Switch, a console/handheld hybrid, this morning.

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      October 20, 2016 1:47 PM

      three pillars will soon be one pillar.

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      October 20, 2016 1:47 PM

      Nintendo said the same thing about the DS to the GBA, the Wii U to the Wii, etc.

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      October 20, 2016 1:49 PM

      Also, I kinda don't buy it. I expect portable mode will end being what most users play, but it could also really depend on the games. I only say portable because adoption of mobile gaming has exploded, and I believe out paces traditional console gaming now. But, I'm not sure what the right way to measure that would be. Switch games are naturally going to be $60 MSRP, so that'll put it outside the realm of mobile games. I can't see them going $40 like for DS titles. That'll weaken this very stance that this is a home system "first and foremost."

      Yup. TONS of questions left to be answered.

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        October 21, 2016 8:04 AM

        Hmm I bet there will be a big variance in price actually, especially on the eShop. We already have some of that even without the two systems being combined.

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      October 20, 2016 1:53 PM

      and yet their reveal trailer must've been like half or more of examples using it as a portable

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        October 20, 2016 1:59 PM

        Yeah, their statement seems like a way to pacify 3DS owners who took a look at that trailer and got up to dump their gear at GameStop.

        Another interpretation: "Switch won't succeed 3DS now; we'll continue to support it until we don't." Kind of like how MS and Sony didn't cut ties to 360 and PS3 until late 2014-ish.

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          October 20, 2016 2:02 PM

          yeah I think the 360/PS3 comparison is probably good. I'd have to go look at the data for how well the DS fared post 3DS and whether that's a realistic comparison point.

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          October 20, 2016 3:48 PM

          Also Nintendo hedges their bets. When the DS launched they said it wasn't a successor to the GBA, but it obviously was once it was a success. They said the Virtual Boy wasn't a successor to the Game Boy and when it tanked they had a way out.

          Man I kinda miss the days of crazy hardware and in a way this Nintendo Switch thing is basically crazy hardware. I love it.

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      October 20, 2016 1:59 PM

      My take? The Switch is going to be pretty expensive so the 3DS needs to remain as a cheaper alternative.

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        October 20, 2016 5:01 PM

        Well 3ds games will probably be a good deal cheaper than Switch games for the most part. I don't think Nintendo or other developers would relish selling console games for $30 or whatever the 3ds games go for these days.

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        October 20, 2016 10:39 PM

        Why? The Shield wasn't.

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      October 20, 2016 1:59 PM

      I take this is PR speak so they don't kill sales of 3DS hardware.

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      October 20, 2016 2:12 PM

      Yeah? What about the slower frame rate of Zelda when the guy took his dog for a walk? Looked slower to me.

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        October 20, 2016 2:28 PM

        It couldn't possibly be because neither the hardware nor that software has been finished. Could it? Nah.

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          October 20, 2016 3:00 PM

          lol we shall see eh? I'm buying no matter what but I'd be some disappointed if true

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            October 20, 2016 3:50 PM

            Maybe it's just me but all the other games they showed (Skyrim, MK, Splatoon) looked solid on the portable.

            An odd choice to show off an unfinished game with frame rate issues but I guess you could give them credit for not doing a "screen images simulated" thing.

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            October 20, 2016 5:46 PM

            Friggin zealots tagging my post

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        October 21, 2016 3:31 AM

        The dog is stealing frames and selling them on the cheap

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      October 20, 2016 3:10 PM

      They also said the DS wasn't going to replace the Gameboy.

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      October 20, 2016 3:10 PM

      RIP Picross :/

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        October 20, 2016 3:49 PM

        I know. :(

        3D Picross is honestly a big reason I want touchscreens on this

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          October 20, 2016 4:15 PM

          I 100%'d Round 2 last week.

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            October 20, 2016 4:22 PM

            Oh wow. How many puzzles is that?

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            October 20, 2016 5:28 PM

            I thought I was done but then it pulled a MGSV and opened up a bunch after the credits. So many puzzles.

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              October 20, 2016 5:30 PM

              I'm ticked it doesn't open up the Amiibo puzzles. I'm not getting into that shit just for Picross. :P

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        October 20, 2016 5:18 PM

        is it confirmed no touch screen?

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          October 20, 2016 5:20 PM

          No, but no one touches the screen in the trailer, and it makes sense if it didn't, because you couldn't touch it in games if the screen is in the dock. :/

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      October 20, 2016 4:17 PM

      Guys are we excited about this or not? How do I feel?

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        October 20, 2016 4:19 PM

        Yes you are very excited

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        October 20, 2016 4:53 PM

        I know I'll end up buying it (and by that I mean make my wife buy it for me for some special occasion) but it will most likely collect dust, like every Nintendo console since N64 :(

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          October 20, 2016 4:57 PM

          My WiiU def saw next to zero use other than Mario. I even left it at my exGFs place.

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            October 20, 2016 5:00 PM

            My wife and I played Smash Bros a bunch of times, but that was mostly it. I didn't even load up Mario Maker that much either. Which is a shame, I'm sure there's lots of great content available now for Mario Maker. I wonder what the hesitation is? Am I really that lazy to be bothered with an input switch on my A/V receiver? I think the tablet controller itself is just this clunky mess that I don't want to deal with. I really don't have a good reason. I've been meaning to check out the Donkey Kong games too.

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              October 20, 2016 5:26 PM

              The controller situation seemed like a pain in the ass for sure.

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              October 20, 2016 5:51 PM

              Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze is superb, and its permanently marked down to $20. Definitely check it out, up there with DKC2 IMHO

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          October 20, 2016 5:45 PM

          I didn't buy a WiiU, because I hardly played the Wii. Nintendo doesn't make a lot of games I'm interested in anymore.

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            October 20, 2016 5:50 PM

            Its too bad the bad taste from Wii carried over. Wii U has such a great library. This gimmick/shovelware stigma carried over right when Nintendo started cranking out classics on Wii U and 3DS.

            I hope they do a bunch of remasters for Switch, so much great stuff people missed out on.

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        October 20, 2016 5:24 PM

        Not sure. Outside if it being able to leave the house, it's basically just a Wii U again without me knowing the specs. I'm sure I'll buy one but I'm kinda semi excited / a little worried about it too

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          October 20, 2016 5:26 PM

          Actually.
          On second thought.
          I can play this at work. Sold

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            October 20, 2016 5:27 PM

            I have no real need for mobile gaming. Not for me I guess.

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        October 20, 2016 5:26 PM

        I still want a Wii-U, I wont pay anything more than 250.00 for the Wii-U and I feel the value of the new console is about 275.00 or so. If it hit that price point I'd skip the Wii-U and get the NX.

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          October 20, 2016 5:50 PM

          At $275.00 it cannibalizes the WiiU's price. I can't see it being less than $300.00. I'm thinking $350.00.

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            October 20, 2016 5:52 PM

            There's nothing to cannibalize, Color Splash is the Wii U's swan song

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              October 20, 2016 5:54 PM

              Also, I'd guess $250 for a base package and a $300 or $350 bundle with a dock, a game, maybe more internal storage, etc. Have an inexpensive base model and high margin add-ons for the whole deal, standard.

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                October 20, 2016 6:13 PM

                WiiU is still sitting around $230. Unless they drop the price a lot $250.00 seems too close.

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                  October 20, 2016 6:21 PM

                  Nintendo doesn't care about competing with the Wii-U, at all. They're clearly moving on with the Switch, and by the time it's released I wouldn't be surprised if it's hard to find Wii-U's in stock. If they price the Switch at $300, it's directly competing with xb1/ps4. If it's more than $300, it's more expensive than the competition. That's a really tough sell for a late comer in a crowded market, esp since it isn't going to be winning the graphics war.

                  The Switch has got to be as absolutely cheap as Nintendo can get it, so a base system that's cheaper than the competition with a more expensive dock add-on makes a lot of sense.

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                    October 20, 2016 6:23 PM

                    Like I said. I don't see it being less than $300, but I'm betting $treefiddy.

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                      October 20, 2016 6:25 PM

                      Nintendo is going to care about the WiiU as long as they are producing them. Until then, they can't cannibalize their own product. It's a dumb business move.

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                        October 20, 2016 6:28 PM

                        Nintendo is finishing up or has finished Wii U production. The second to last Wii U game they are making shipped last week. The next one also launches on Wii U.

                        They don't care about Wii U, its done. It was done the moment they had no new major release at E3 2015, those teams were clearly moved to NX

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                  October 20, 2016 10:11 PM

                  299.99 in stores.

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          October 20, 2016 6:24 PM

          Refurb Wii U is like $200 I think at the Nintendo Store online.

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            October 20, 2016 7:39 PM

            I've seen some of the old 8GB units go for sub $200, but I'm thinking that's inventory that folks can't get rid of.

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          October 21, 2016 6:47 AM

          Go used. I got an incredible deal on a Wii U with tons of software and accessories.

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        October 20, 2016 5:31 PM

        I'll probably keep the Wii U depending on Zelda.

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        October 20, 2016 6:08 PM

        I skipped the Wii U after the Wii, so I'm pretty excited about this.

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        October 20, 2016 9:31 PM

        nintendo's japan listed shares (7974 JP) is down 5%, so not excited i guess. people that bought NTDOY US earlier today is going to regret it tomorrow.

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        October 20, 2016 10:40 PM

        I'm am excited as much because Nintendo stay in the game with a clever. versatile games device while Xbox and PS4 continue the spec arms race.

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      October 20, 2016 4:35 PM

      It better be the only platform they are concentrating on going forward - most of the promise for the Switch is in the fact that all of their talented resources will be developing for one Single Thing.

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      October 20, 2016 5:00 PM

      Aka: PLEASE KEEP BUYING 3DS STUFF PLZPLZPLZ

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      October 20, 2016 5:29 PM

      Some cool color variation photoshops for the Switch: http://imgur.com/a/FSHaK

      Hope they do something like this, I really like different colors on the GCN gamepads, Wii remotes, XBox One controllers, etc

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        October 20, 2016 6:09 PM

        I'd buy the classic NES one all day so hopefully it doesn't take them 5 years to come out w/ one like they did w/ the 3DS

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        October 20, 2016 7:25 PM

        Where's the watermelon color?

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        October 20, 2016 9:35 PM

        The NES one is pretty hot actually.

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        October 20, 2016 9:57 PM

        This is an old mock up on Reddit, but it's likely gonna be a real idea.

        https://i.redd.it/l37vhf8jsnsx.png

        I can't fathom Nintendo skipping on this. It might not be these, but that GameCube one. You know that would be a hot seller especially if they released a SSB:M remaster or something.

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      October 20, 2016 10:47 PM

      Sure, the 3DS will remain on shelves until nobody wants it anymore. But this is obviously their only platform moving forward.

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        October 20, 2016 10:57 PM

        The switch seems positively huge for children and a ds is probably way more robust and battery will hold longer. I can see them coexist with some adjusted pricing until a new 3ds down the line maybe.

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          October 20, 2016 11:14 PM

          So they're continuing to produce two distinct lines of portable systems with incompatible games? It doesn't make sense. The demographic of kids not yet capable of holding normal size controllers is too small for them to worry about.

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            October 21, 2016 2:37 AM

            The 3DS is dead after March 2017, guaranteed. They're betting big on Switch and going to give it everything they've got, part of its point is to unify the currently split development focus on one device so they can make more games instead of wasting time porting or making games for one of two devices.

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        October 21, 2016 6:47 AM

        Well Nintendo can afford to hedge their bets. If the Switch has no impact on 3ds sales then there's no problem keeping the 3ds alive. If not, they can quickly retire the 3ds and rejoice that they're the only company that was able to topple the Nintendo handheld market...with a console.

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      October 20, 2016 10:56 PM

      Pshaw. Nintendo is consolidating its two lines. It's a conservative move.

      A gorgeous, exciting and possibly profitable move. But a conservative one.

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        October 21, 2016 8:06 AM

        That's an odd way to look at it. You could also say that no one has tried to combine portable and home systems like this, and it is innovative instead of conservative.

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          October 21, 2016 9:22 AM

          Conceptually, you could be both.

          When the DS launched, Nintendo announced that it wasn't killing off the gameboy -- the DS was for "older gamers", and the Gameboy for kids.

          In practice, the DS supplanted the Gameboy. I am sure many people in the company knew this. Nintendo has to believe certain things in order to move forward. There are internal politics and a very, very old guard running at NOJ.

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      October 21, 2016 2:35 AM

      Two more details: Nintendo won't yet confirm either way about it being a touch screen:

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-10-21-nintendo-refuses-to-say-whether-switch-has-a-touchscreen

      The dock is just for video output and power (although it's still possible it will clock frequencies up a bit while plugged in):

      http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/21/13356760/nintendo-switch-dock-functionality-tv-output-power

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        October 21, 2016 4:28 AM

        One would think if the thing had a touch screen it'd be in the reveal video.

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          October 21, 2016 4:37 AM

          Well, yes. You can see their conundrum though - it would enable DS/3DS Virtual Console stuff, but you can't use the touch screen while docked.

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            October 21, 2016 4:42 AM

            Touchscreens don't work for multiplayer either, they seem to be stressing the two controllers for that.

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            October 21, 2016 4:43 AM

            There is speculation going around that the bridge between the two joy-cons could have a touch screen ability similar to the ps4 controller, that would allow for touchscreen when the made unit is docked.

            Also there is a japanese journalist who writes for the WSJ that says there is a big aspect of the system not yet revealed pertaining to smartphones.

            My best guess is an official cradle of some sort for iphones that allows this kind of setup :

            https://i.redd.it/2t7pt75qbqsx.jpg

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              October 21, 2016 5:34 AM

              Well that would explain that very large flat center panel on the controller.. Also it does look phone sized.. Intriguing.

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              October 21, 2016 6:19 AM

              intersting idea!

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      October 21, 2016 7:30 AM

      I might missed it but what's the deal on battery life?