Morning Discussion

I saw a video game yesterday, and at some point I'll be allowed to tell you all about it. Until then, you can watch a baby trashing a bar. I think that's about as highbrow and intellectual as I can manage to be today.

After my hard drive was wiped yesterday, I've whacked an old drive into my PC to at least get it running again until I can make headway with recovering my files. I've discovered a treasure trove of goodies, including a folder of text files with such useful information as my Kali serial and Tribes 2 key, and a monstrously complex modem string that I suspect is broken and does nothing useful. 2001, let's rock.

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    February 17, 2011 5:03 AM

    Wednesday Morning Minecraft Thread!
    Why the fuck did I stay up so late Edition.

    Multiplayer Servers!
    Foo1 (PVP/PVE): foo1.sytes.net / richcunts.sytes.net / 216.139.192.52
    MercFox1 : mercfox1.sytes.net / 75.101.148.242
    Shadowdane (PVE/BiomeMod): shadowdane.shacknet.nu / sd.shkn.ws / shadowdane.shkn.ws
    Chicken Fur : 69.169.149.253 / cf.shkn.ws / chickenfur.shkn.ws <--This still up?
    m0rfus (Full unrestricted PVP) : morfus.dyndns.org / morfus.shkn.ws
    Haxim (TNT Server) : asplode.dyndns.org / haxim.shkn.ws


    Teamspeak : ts.shackbattles.com:9987

    Server Renders and Stats!
    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24937945#itemanchor_24937945

    Guides and Utilities
    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24698112#itemanchor_24698112

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      February 17, 2011 5:05 AM

      Back to English edition!

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      February 17, 2011 5:24 AM

      What are the pc requirements for running a MC client? I bought this for the woman last night for us to play on a private server, but it lagged a lot on her comp. She's running it on a Portegé r600, dual-core 1,2ghz 3gig ram.

      Also, she got diconnected from the server with her client showing "generic failure" every time after 10-15 seks into the game. Any hints?

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        February 17, 2011 5:29 AM

        Does she have the newest version of Java installed on her laptop?

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          February 17, 2011 5:59 AM

          She has. I'm considering running the server on the gaming desktop instead of my xps laptop, to see if that improves things.

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        February 17, 2011 5:39 AM

        same on my laptop too. :( running really slow.

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        February 17, 2011 9:13 AM

        The only thing that really matters is video card. If you are using a integrated video card... good luck. If you have no other choice. Make sure fog is on small or normal(normal runs faster than small on some laptops). Turn graphics to fast. Install correct version of Java(If your OS is 64bit, make sure you have the 64bit version of java installed, this fixes the black screen crash). Install Optimine. Install Mipmapping mod. Google minecraft tweaks and you'll find more. Also, you probably should run the server on a more powerful machine. Mines a quad 3.0ghz with 4gigs of ram.

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        February 17, 2011 5:41 AM

        Ohh fuck...

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        February 17, 2011 6:03 AM

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        February 17, 2011 6:09 AM

        Shiiit...

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        February 17, 2011 6:16 AM

        holy crap that looks like it's full of awesome

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        February 17, 2011 6:21 AM

        Did you build a gigantic cube entirely out of...wool?

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          February 17, 2011 6:23 AM

          Disregard structural integrity. Acquire fleece.

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        February 17, 2011 6:23 AM

        Jesus christ!

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        February 17, 2011 6:23 AM

        That's wallpaper-worthy right there.

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        February 17, 2011 6:34 AM

        I'm getting a BRRAAAAUUMMMM feeling right here.

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        February 17, 2011 6:40 AM

        I hope this is inspired by the movie The Cube and filled with mini-cubes loaded with insidious traps.

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          February 17, 2011 6:50 AM

          You are correct. I tried some of the rooms too, they are very nice.

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            February 17, 2011 6:58 AM

            Awesome! I've watched all of the Cube movies (even the original Jim Henson TV movie) and, in spite of the hilariously bad acting in most of them, I totally love them.

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        February 17, 2011 7:02 AM

        meanwhile vincent greyson's (IIRC) cube languishes unfinished on the leper server

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        February 17, 2011 7:02 AM

        I want someone to build a Necron Monolith.

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          February 17, 2011 7:04 AM

          That would require a pretty absurd amount of mossy cobble.

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            February 17, 2011 7:05 AM

            And that's what would make it cool.

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              February 17, 2011 7:10 AM

              "I have scoured the entire world and braved untold danger to acquire this mossy cobble!"

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        February 17, 2011 8:34 AM

        This is truly masterful! I am impressed. I need to get the Maze back in working order.

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        February 17, 2011 9:19 AM

        Whoa that massive!!

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        February 17, 2011 9:29 AM

        You son of a bitch.

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          February 17, 2011 9:29 AM

          I kid. But I'd like to see that, since it's a given I'm never going to finish mine at this point.

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        February 17, 2011 12:31 PM

        Holy CRAP! That is impressive! I gotta see this thing.

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      February 17, 2011 5:52 AM

      http://shirt.woot.com/ relevant to you minecraft nerds!

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        February 17, 2011 6:51 AM

        Bought. :)

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        February 17, 2011 1:17 PM

        this would be bought right now if it had a creeper face on the back with text below it that simply said 'BRAAAAAUUUUUMMMMM'

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      February 17, 2011 6:54 AM

      Is it really necessary to have these huge posts still? Lets put this stuff in reply next time?

      In other news, notch is the devil blah blah blah typical JohnnyRey post

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      February 17, 2011 8:38 AM

      I'm going to put some serious work into my server on Friday. Fixing damage, moving spawn, and prepping the Maze. When I think the maze is ready to be opened, I'll take volunteers to make a run and see if Eric can record it.

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        February 17, 2011 8:41 AM

        Also: anyone successfully set up Bukkit Permissions with Essentials? The forums are failing me.

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          February 17, 2011 8:50 AM

          I've got bukkit with essentials running on my linux sever. Its rnning/operating normally, but if you're having advanced issues, I may not be much use.



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            February 17, 2011 9:09 AM

            Would you be willing to just share your permissions file with me? I can alter commands and such, I cant get the groups to work for players. I can use EVERYTHING but they can't use even /who.

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              February 17, 2011 11:37 AM

              sure, let me take a look when I get home.

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              February 17, 2011 12:07 PM

              I've gotten bukkit/essentials working on both Windows and Mac. Shackmessage me if you still need help and I can send you my configs when I get home, if you still need them. I'm happy to talk/IM about it too if you need.

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                February 17, 2011 12:19 PM

                Actually... here you go!
                http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27258/config.yml

                I've gotten really comfortable with Bukkit so feel free to ask me any questions.

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                  February 17, 2011 12:20 PM

                  Oh remember... NO TABS in .yml files. Just use space!

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                    February 17, 2011 1:21 PM

                    You are fucking awesome sir!!! I know about the tabs and I've used notepad and Ultra Edit to make sure.

                    Question: do you place the same YML file in both plugin subfolders? I found two configs. One for Permissions and one for Essentials.

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                      February 17, 2011 3:26 PM

                      They each have their own config files. Generally plugins with files keep them in their own folders. So that config.yml I linked goes into /plugins/Permissions/. And then the one for Essentials goes in /plugins/Essentials/

                      Permissions is just a special plugin that controls access to specific commands within other plugins. It took me a while to wrap my head around... but once you get it, it's really powerful.

                      For referenece, I'm using:
                      -Essentials (The newer versions are actually split into 5(?) separate plugins)
                      -Permissions
                      -WorldEdit
                      -WorldGuard
                      -BlockDrops
                      -BorderGuard
                      -SimpleGod

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      February 17, 2011 9:18 AM

      For people who run servers and have lag issues. I've said this a million times but I don't think I have said it here. I was having all kinds of horrible lag problems and I could not figure out why. I tried everything they said to do to speed up the server and none of it did anything impressive. Then I came across a MC server hosting OS that can be loaded up into Virtual Box. Since I've done this my server has never needed to be restarted(~2months) and it doesn't lag at all. And one of my players is in Qatar, and I'm in Canada. I highly highly recommend using this software:

      http://minecraft.codeemo.com/index.html

      and VirtualBox if you don't have a dedicated PC for your server:

      http://www.virtualbox.org/

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        February 17, 2011 9:22 AM

        Oh, I forgot to explain a little why this works so good. I won't get into any great detail but the two main things MineOS has going for it is one, it uses RAM disk. So your world is always in RAM and this is incredibly fast, this gets rid of chunk loading lag completely. The second thing being that you pick how much ram is dedicated to it and this stops leaking. Both of these added with the Linux core and optimization for MC make this thing blazing fast.

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          February 17, 2011 9:33 AM

          i used to run minecraft from a RAM disk, and it does work as advertised, but i stopped doing it after my computer crashed and i lost all my changes a couple times

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            February 17, 2011 9:57 AM

            MineOS has auto backup that you can control yourself. Mine backs up every 15 mins. It dumps the ram disk incrementally to your hard drive. So the most you could lose with this is 15mins of work. Of course you can change 15mins to whatever you like.

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              February 17, 2011 10:39 AM

              you can do a LOT in 15 minutes. i backed up regularly; i don't know if i ever lost more than 15 minutes of work

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                February 17, 2011 10:39 AM

                (although this was single player. the biggest problem there was having to quit out to the main screen before doing the backup. it's a bit nicer on the server where it can be automated and you don't have to take the server down)

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                  February 17, 2011 11:21 AM

                  Yeah, Like I said, You could put it on 1min intervals and not lose anything.

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                    February 17, 2011 11:36 AM

                    it'll be nice when he switches singleplayer over to the client-server model so we can do the same thing for single player games

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                      February 17, 2011 4:06 PM

                      Yeah agree'd. I hope they do the switch over right.

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          February 17, 2011 10:03 AM

          BUKKIT does the release of RAM back. I've seen it do this a lot in the logs. So it's helping with the leak problems.

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            February 17, 2011 10:37 AM

            Foo1 was saying BUKKIT is a pile of trash. Is that true?

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              February 17, 2011 10:58 AM

              I don't like it. But it's working and keeping my stuff stable. I don't think my server is as beefy and I can go a week now between reboots. I only have 2gb RAM.

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                February 17, 2011 11:22 AM

                You would never have to reboot if you used MineOS :P I also use McRegion on my server.

            • foo legacy 10 years
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              February 17, 2011 11:46 AM

              It's trash in its current state - but when it's a finished product, it should be great (if they follow their own roadmap and planned features).

              But as it is, it's super, super alpha, so people are having to write mods to do basic things - like authentication.

              • foo legacy 10 years
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                February 17, 2011 11:48 AM

                Didn't meant to post that yet:

                None of the mod makers can agree on how authentication should be handled, so there's 10 different auth mods that all accomplish the EXACT same thing, in different ways. Then there's 50 different mods that require other specific auth mods, so it's stupid.

                Mod_you_want requires auth_mod_A. Other_mod_you_want requires auth_mod_B. Now you've got to run two different auth mods just so you can have the two other mods you actually want.

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                  February 17, 2011 12:02 PM

                  That sounds like a cluster fuck nightmare. I love the idea of Bukkit but I've only heard nothing but bad about it .... in it's current state. But it looks promising. Why don't they just release their own Auth? That's retarded.

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                    February 17, 2011 3:34 PM

                    Authentication will be in the final version, it's just not completed yet, that's all. So the mod makers are making temporary stand-in auth modules

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                      February 17, 2011 4:07 PM

                      Ah, That sucks. The bukkit team has been talking to the mojang team so I hope that's a good sign. Mojang also used bukkit's fence bug fix.

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                February 17, 2011 12:11 PM

                Can you explain why it's trash? I've been using it regularly for a few weeks with a few different servers that have consistently had 10 simultaneous users with absolutely no problems. And I'm using more than a few plugins including Essentials and WorldGuard.

                What problems are you having?

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                  February 17, 2011 12:42 PM

                  i found it really overly complicated to just setup a simple server

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                    February 17, 2011 3:27 PM

                    As I said above... it took me a while to wrap my head around how craftbukkit is organized. But once I got it, it's really powerful.

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      February 17, 2011 11:29 AM

      Need s'more length and girth!

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      February 17, 2011 1:14 PM

      I have the urge to build again.

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        February 17, 2011 3:57 PM

        I'm going to move the spawn area on my server because KaBoomz is scaring people away. Cme build on my server!!

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          February 17, 2011 4:01 PM

          M0rfus, shall I build my giant Iron Cross monument on yours as well sir? I'm still trying to think of castle designs. A friend just seriously redid Castle Neuschwanstein...and it was insane...so I've been trying to come up with something but that's hard to top.

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