ZeniMax Files Injunction to Completely Stop Sales of Oculus Rift
Apparently the $500 million judgement in their favor wasn't enough.
ZeniMax has filed an injunction, calling for all Oculus products that infringed code be pulled from shelves immediately.
This proposal comes following the $500 million lawsuit that ZeniMax won against Oculus/facebook early this month. It seems as though ZeniMax doesn’t think the half a billion lawsuit was a large enough consequence for Oculus violating copyrights.
As reported by Upload VR, the injunction calls for Oculus to be:
“permanently enjoined, on a worldwide basis, from using…any of the Copyrighted Materials, including but not limited to (i) system software for Oculus PC (including the Oculus PC SDK); (ii) system software for Oculus Mobile (including the Oculus Mobile SDK); (iii) Oculus integration with the Epic Games Unreal Engine; and (iv) Oculus integration with the Unity Technologies Unity Game Engine.”
Facebook commented on the demands by calling them “legally flawed and factually unwarranted”. As for the money, Facebook stated they’re still planning to appeal the court’s ruling in favor of ZeniMax.
Since it was also ruled by the same jury that Oculus did not misappropriate trade secrets from ZeniMax, It’s unlikely their demand to pull Oculus products from shelves will be granted. Legal expert Joshua Rich told Ars Technica, “Had they prevailed on the trade secrets claim, [ZeniMax] would have been in an extremely strong position for an injunction… Here, I think is a relatively weak argument.”
Facebook has already been struggling to get their VR tech off the ground, which hasn’t really seen high demand since its launch. Company executives say they’re working on long term plans for Oculus. Adding onto that, Facebook will have to juggle battling serious legal action.
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replyDonovan Erskine posted a new article, ZeniMax Files Injunction to Completely Stop Sales of Oculus Rift
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This is terrible considering it was ruled they didn't actually steal copyrighted materials but Palmer was guilty of violating an NDA.
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WTF is ZeniMax so pissed off about regarding this.. Were they planning on releasing their own VR headset or they just trying to take a slice of the 2B pie? I don't really understand why they are fussing over it..
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I think theyre really mad they lost john carmack
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I don't even think this would benefit them at all. It just seems really petty.
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My biggest problem with all of this is how it hurts indie devs who are on Oculus. If the injunction happens, they get hurt the most. None of this shit really hurts Zenimax or Oculus, it is all minor and they will survive just fine, but the little guys will get shit on.
It is definitely petty shit. I agree that shit like NDA violations and even theft are serious crimes, but penalize the people who do it, figure out the money shit, and move on. Unless the product is hurting people physically, or it is a literal verbatim copy of an existing product without the rights, then you are just trying to hurt people to settle your bullshit vendetta.
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ZeniMax is created and run by lawyers.
That should answer all your questions.
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Ok, this is really fucking dumb. The lawsuit seemed kind of bad enough, but companies do that stuff, they have to sometimes to defend their name and fight for what is there. But after doing that and winning (at least partially) you'd think they'd be set. This is just too far.... this is getting close to me boycotting ZeniMax. I'm a huge Oculus supporter, they have done so much to push VR as thing which actually works and people want. Trying to stop Oculus is getting close to trying to stop VR in general. This really pisses me off. Was ZeniMax planning on making an affordable consumer VR headset?! NO fucking way. Then why are they pursuing this so hard?
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Did Carmack murder someone on the way out? There's gotta be something more than what we've seen, right?
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Zenimax/bethesda is super sleazy, word is they fucked over studios like arcane successfully with the intend to ruin them financially so they could buy them up. They apparently pulled that shit on humanhead as well but failed, though that studio was in a standoff and took a huge hit.
Its also a litigious company that went after notch for the use of the word "scrolls" they are in for the money and scorched earth.
Carmack on the other hand is a ruthless sociapath when it comes to business, he fucked over romero (who basically didn’t see a dime for making quake), and he and the remaining founders were at each other throat constantly and fucked over adrian carmack when they effectively pushed him out of the company to get their hands on his 40% stake in the company (so they could make a killing when they sold to zenimax. Word is they underpoaid him for a sum around 30-40 millions).
He went to court. The details of the settlement did not emerge but lets say he owns a 5 star hotel and golf course in ireland now.
Tl;dr zenimax is the worst but carmack is a notorious asshole who got away with shit his whole life (its a red thread in his biography, from being a hyperintelligent deliquent to dumpsterdiving tech thief).
Its well established that luckey palmer is a piece of shit and so there isnt really anyone to root for in this clusterfuck (facebook and zuckerberg are probably worse).
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There is probably a spectrum of awfulness and you have to see it in context to whom it effects (consumers) but yeah nobody looks good in this. Also we'll done parsing through that post, it's barely coherent (just woke up. First coffee coming up). For what it's worth, unlike zenimax Carmack has done shit tons of good for the industry, and has always been releasing source code for his engines, held tech talks where he was very candid about his work, posted plan files in the old days, was easily approachable etc. Without him fighting for open-source tons of games would not have happened.
This site wouldn't exist without him shipping an unreleased gl port of quake to the shacks founder.
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Before Romero and Adrian Carmack there was Tom Hall.
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Tom Hall is basically the only person that comes off as a really good guy after reading Masters of Doom although it seems like Romero is a pretty cool dude now that he's had time to chill out and kinda just do smaller projects and teach.
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I keep wishing he'd end up with the Commander Keen license somehow. Shame Worlds of Wander fizzled
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Also WTF he voiced Walton Simons. I did not know that. As a fan of Deus Ex and Tom Hall I must hide my head in shame
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you forget Sandy Petersen
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Oops, yeah, Sandy is cool too and the "You're a Mormon?!" story with Romero is one of my favorite stories in the book.
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Oh no, dozens of potential sales will be affected
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