Xbox One hits 5 million shipped

Microsoft has been falling behind Sony in the latest console war. And in spite of the recent launch of Titanfall, the gap is only widening.

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Microsoft has been falling behind Sony in the latest console war. And in spite of the recent launch of Titanfall, the gap is only widening. Microsoft has announced it has shipped 5 million consoles to retailers, just one day after Sony announced sales of more than 7 million PS4s.

Xbox One is falling behind PS4

While the consoles were neck-and-neck at launch, Sony's lead has only grown since. When Microsoft boasted sales of 3 million, Sony had reached 4.2 million. PS4 reached the 5 million benchmark in February. Still, while Sony maintains a 40% lead over Microsoft right now, it's not all bad news. Microsoft announced an average software attach rate of 2.9--about the same as PS4. Also, Xbox fans spend an average of five hours a day on their new console. That's quite a lot.
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    April 17, 2014 11:30 PM

    Andrew Yoon posted a new article, Xbox One hits 5 million shipped.

    Microsoft has been falling behind Sony in the latest console war. And in spite of the recent launch of Titanfall, the gap is only widening.

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      April 17, 2014 11:55 PM

      7 million PS4s in the hands of consumers. 5 million Xbones in the hands of retailers, an unknown number of them as yet unsold. You'd think the price cut would of allowed them to move enough units to report actual sales instead of just numbers of units shipped out of the factory.

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        April 17, 2014 11:58 PM

        13 markets vs 72........

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          April 18, 2014 12:14 AM

          None of the remaining markets represent a significant sales potential. This is why they still haven't bothered releasing them in those markets.

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            April 18, 2014 4:04 AM

            Bullshit. Benelux and the Nordics each have populations over 25 million people, both are bigger markets with healthier economies than some of the countries the Xbox One launched in. Microsoft already has established sales and marketing presences here and were planning big marketing pushes before the last-minute decision to postpone the release.

            It has nothing to do with sales potential. Denmark has a population of 5,5 million, and the PS3 has lifetime sales of over 600k here. We love our consoles.

            It's the misguided insistence native-language voice commands for all markets that's been holding the Xbox One back from half of Europe, not a lack of demand or supply.

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            April 18, 2014 4:26 AM

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          April 18, 2014 1:39 AM

          Those Luxemburg sales really push them over the edge

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            April 18, 2014 1:45 AM

            half a million sales. owning one is mandatory by state law.

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      April 18, 2014 12:24 AM

      i enjoyed watching microsoft getting punished for their attempts against customers interest but basically it's its a reverse of the last gen when sony went full on assholes with tech/price and marketing. it took forever for them to bounce back but eventually, despite ending up with the often less desirable multi-platform ports they had the exclusive titles that i actually wanted to play (which isnt saying much really given how i despise halo,cod,madden and gears so i'm not really representative).

      right now i want neither console due to lack of actual games and generally not being a console person (every one but the nes/snes collected dust) but if i were to buy one i honestly couldn't find a reason to buy a xbone as someone who already owns a gaming pc. this said, the only case to make for the ps4 are also the games to come, less the games available.

      its weird that the games iam mildly interested in are all available on the wiiu. which for the life of me i won't buy (my ds/lite and cube collected dust).

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        April 18, 2014 12:41 AM

        Or not going enough toward their customers interests.

        I would love an XB1 if it had WMC integration, but it doesn't, so I stick with the 360. It'd be great to have all the extra stuff that XB1 has but it's pretty useless to me if I have to keep the 360 on at the same time to be able to watch TV.

        Unfortunately it seems like the XB1 was too ahead of its time. It either needed to have a cablecard tuner and built-in DVR functionality, or a lot better interoperability with existing STB's.

        (What I'm saying is I'd love it for all it's media playback capability and gaming as a secondary focus. If it could do the media stuff well enough for me so I don't have one.)

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          April 18, 2014 1:27 AM

          probably, media was the reason why many bought the original huge xbox without any games to do xbmc.

          later the 360 lacked those abilities etc. apparently the ps4 has trouble with some blue-rays and also pales to the abilities of the ps3 as a media center. this stuff will come with time but honestly i can do a pretty good mediacenter with less than the 500€ and chances are i can do some gaming on it as well.

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          April 18, 2014 1:27 AM

          well it's getting plex support apparently.

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          April 18, 2014 1:42 AM

          Plex have said they're working on an XB1 app that could be when it turns into a full media device especially with voice commands.

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            April 18, 2014 1:53 AM

            Unfortunately I need it to work with WMC unless Plex has live TV capability with Ceton tuners on a PC.

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        April 18, 2014 12:53 AM

        The tricky part here for ms is the longer the ball rolls away from them, the harder I think it will be for them to recover since, unlike the previous generation, there isn't a lot of hidden power to unlock in the one, and the ps4 and Xbox are a bit behind the curve as is compared to how they stood last generation vs the PC.

        I don't think it will be that drastically bad mind you, and MS could still totally turn this around. I do think though it will be harder for ms to recover long term if trends continue this way. But, honestly until this time next year we probably won't have a compete picture since everything is still in flux.

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          April 18, 2014 1:34 AM

          i agree, ecosystem plays a part as well. if ms manages to unify its win8,xbone winphone stuff this could be an advantage and it seems they have so far decided to concentrate all their efforts on north america and a lesser degree the uk (which are weirdos). microsoft also has deep pockets, the can afford to go at a huge loss for a long time and they did with all of their previous efforts.

          its clear why ms is getting pummelled right now, its early adopters/hardcore gamers but if they can pull a wii with some kind of broadly mass compatible game bundle they can pull this around at this stage and i'm guessing they hedged their bets for just this.

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          April 18, 2014 5:34 AM

          I thought the same thing too, until I really looked back on the last gen with Sony. Seriously, the guys got hacked, and their PR was a nightmare. Remember the tweet from Sony with the jailbreak key? http://s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2011/02/09/64206-kevin-butler-tweets-sony-jailbreak.jpg

          Sony STILL turned it around by the end! MS can turn it around at any time, they just have to A.) really want to turn it around and B.) Have a great hook. In the case of Sony, the hook was PSN. Which was and is brilliant.

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            April 18, 2014 6:54 AM

            People will buy the system with the good games. That's all either of them need to do. Right now, neither of them are compelling, no offense to Titanfall*.

            * Yes, it's neat, but it's not CoD. And the MP-only FPS market is very focused on its two big hitters. Titanfall is on the PC as well, it's not exclusive enough to make that big of a push, as the NPD numbers show. (The One sales were 311,000 for March, not that impressive. Feb's sales were 258,000 units).

            Both systems need more games.

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              April 18, 2014 8:10 AM

              And until more big exclusives come out, the deciding factor for most consumers will be price. If you are standing in a store right now looking at a PS4 vs a XB1, and you do not care about Titanfall, the $100 price difference is probably all that matters.

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              April 18, 2014 3:22 PM

              You're right, it's BETTER than CoD!

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        April 18, 2014 9:39 AM

        Except a lot of what they wanted to do was pretty interesting and could have been cool or useful. Sadly because of the usual internet overreaction the baby got thrown out with the bath water.

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          April 18, 2014 10:57 AM

          Was what they wanted to do cool? Yes, but their execution, even with the abandonment of "always on" has been poor.

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            April 18, 2014 11:20 AM

            I think the problem is they don't have a proper visionary at the helm right now. You need someone that knows when to listen and when to say "fuck it" and go forward with ideas that might not be popular at first, but will lead to long terms success.

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              April 18, 2014 1:41 PM

              Definitely right. It would also help if they had the promised product in better shape when it launched.

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          April 18, 2014 11:23 AM

          I don't think in this case it's really fair to blame the internet, the MS marketing of the original Xbox One design was absolutely terrible - they didn't have enough concrete benefits lined up/set in stone compared to all the limitations they were imposing

          I agree that in principle it could have been interesting and cool, but they did a completely piss poor job of selling their vision

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            April 18, 2014 12:00 PM

            I think it's fair to partly lay the blame on MS, but you can't say there wasn't the usual explosive internet indignation. I mean, FFS, Adam Orth got death threats.

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            April 18, 2014 12:12 PM

            When has Microsoft's marketing division not done a piss poor job of selling their vision?

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        April 18, 2014 11:50 AM

        They basically tried to pull an Apple and tell everyone where the market was going instead of being led there. But because Micro$oft everyone freaked out and they backtracked. It's a shame. I think they were/are trying to get things to converge before their time.

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          April 18, 2014 11:51 AM

          Oh and they're not really getting punished since both consoles are selling faster than their predecessors, and that size of a gap could easily be shrunk if not closed--so I'm not sure what you're "enjoying."

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            April 18, 2014 12:22 PM

            dunno which kind of selective logic you subscribe to but given the backlash, mockery and 180° turn they had to do there was lots of comedy gold to be enjoyed. as for the success of the consoles it might be noteworthy that they are behind in sales, still have bad press regarding the technical abilities due to their decision to implement a mandatory camera instead of a faster cpu/gpu and ram and generally have taken unnecessary flak for being incompetent in handling their message and product at a time where everyone was freaking out. long term some of the things they wanted to implement initially will happen and thats good.

            as for them trying to pull an apple, well yeah only that apple had a different product and audience.

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      April 18, 2014 5:33 AM

      So is it 5 mil shipped vs. 7 mil sold? is that correct?

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        April 18, 2014 6:46 AM

        Yes, that's correct.

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          April 18, 2014 6:48 AM

          Thanks. Thats pretty grim.

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            April 18, 2014 6:55 AM

            As long as they both get good games, they'll eventually even out. WATCH_DOGs is the next big bump for both.

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            April 18, 2014 7:21 AM

            Not really

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            April 18, 2014 7:32 AM

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            April 18, 2014 8:06 AM

            Both are fairly healthy numbers for consoles that have only been out for five months. I would say it is not worth judging until at least January 2015 after they can get a solid non-launch holiday season in. I am really curious what impact a new Halo will have along with a Playstation exclusive of the same calibre.

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            April 18, 2014 8:12 AM

            RIP M$

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            April 18, 2014 9:34 AM

            shut it down, MS and Sony, only sold a million consoles a month

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            April 18, 2014 9:44 AM

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            April 18, 2014 10:06 AM

            END OF AN ERA

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            April 18, 2014 10:20 AM

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            April 18, 2014 10:40 AM

            Hahahaha

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            April 18, 2014 11:18 AM

            how was PS3 doing at this point last gen? it'll be fine.

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              April 18, 2014 11:19 AM

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                April 18, 2014 11:23 AM

                Yeah this is why I keep bringing up that I think last generation went on so long that people have forgotten what a console launch looks like. That or this is their first real launch because they were young when the 360 came out. I mean someone who is now 18 was ten when the Xbox 360 launched.

                I think I just scared myself a bit.

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                  April 18, 2014 12:21 PM

                  Gross, stop doing that math thing

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                April 18, 2014 12:34 PM

                thats a dumb argument that gets thrown around though. if console x outsells console y for an extended period of time amongst an audience of early adopters/hardcore gamer that buy many games, imagine what console will become the lead platform for most developers?

                i don't know if they sell both at a loss but either way the money comes not through units sold but software. its far from grim but the shit about BOTH consoles outselling the previous generation isnt comforting if one of them is falling behind relative to the other.

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                  April 18, 2014 12:40 PM

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                    April 18, 2014 12:51 PM

                    the market growing is a good thingwhich nobody negates, i dunno if anyone is making money at this point, i remember both losing a good chunk of money per unit last time around but this time they were more cost effective in their choices it seems. back then they had to sell at least 3 games or something to get even. microsoft was in the red forever with the first xbox and they had the pockets for it. and i agree that ms needed that kick in the balls, the same way sony did last gen and it took a long time for the to rebound.

                    we are evaluating the relative positions at this stage and if you ask who is not winning in this situation even the microsoft representative will telly you who. thats why they keep say stuff like "its a marathon, we have just begun this cycle" etc

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                  April 18, 2014 1:39 PM

                  It helps that the PS4 and the XB1 are a lot closer architecturally than the PS3/X360 were. It won't be such a big deal to develop for both this time around.

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              April 18, 2014 1:09 PM

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                April 18, 2014 1:31 PM

                all sarcasm aside, didnt sony murder half of its first party studios pre launch and had some shit blowing up at the remaining places just recently?

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                  April 19, 2014 12:42 AM

                  lol way to over exaggerate,

                  Some people left or got better offer, its called poaching and in this market if you are part of a renowned studio it will happen.

                  They didn't blow half their studio but did close down the studio behind the last Socom game and M.A.G ( zipper interactive )

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            April 18, 2014 11:22 AM

            This is like calling the winner of the Indy 500 after the first lap.

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      April 18, 2014 7:15 AM

      meh, Once Microsoft opens up the Xbox to Windows Developers i'll buy one. Seems like that will be coming next year.

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      April 18, 2014 10:12 AM

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        April 18, 2014 10:54 AM

        Honestly I am not that shocked that Titanfall did not bring a huge surge in hardware sales. The game came out less than four months after console release and I have to imagine you have some decent overlap between people interested in the game and those that bought the system at launch. Plus the fact a 360 version was coming might have convinced some people to not bother.

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          April 18, 2014 3:30 PM

          Yeah, a lot of people I know chose to wait for the 360 version which is selling like hotcakes here in the UK. Hell, the 360 version is £12 more expensive than the Xbone version and is actually selling out at many retailers.

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        April 18, 2014 12:56 PM

        They wont admit it as a mistake because the whole fucking machine is designed around it.

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      April 18, 2014 11:27 AM

      I'm assuming people are using their Xboxes more often due to the built in TV thing.

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        April 18, 2014 2:10 PM

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        April 18, 2014 3:12 PM

        The youtube app on the One has completely taken over my tv. It's a great implementation. It feeds me a couple hours of new content every day from my subscriptions (giantbomb to /drive) You can subscribe to anything from all the other list using the d-pad. My only complaint is it doesn't work with the media remote, but it's been getting regular updates.

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      April 18, 2014 12:13 PM

      I miss the weekend confirmed thread, just because I would like to see how Mysssss would spin these numbers. Long live fan boys!

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