Evening Reading

Diamond league is scary! I'm still in it, but I've quickly fallen to rank 87 out of 100. Had a great, lengthy Protoss versus Zerg match-up last night. I've submitted the replay to maulla and Lexicon_Leidun. Hopefully, they'll pick it for a cast!

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    August 6, 2010 5:02 PM

    Starcraft 2!

    I submit to you this graph of devastation : http://i37.tinypic.com/10ygy2b.png

    :[

    No luck with the 2v2's so far tonight.

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      August 6, 2010 5:03 PM

      Hahahaha oh man. wha happun?

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        August 6, 2010 5:05 PM

        BC's and vikings devastated by a bunch of infestors followed by hydras.

        It wound up being a somewhat even exchange, which I think we had 2 big examples of in that match, but double zerg was able to reproduce so much faster and then overwhelm.

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          August 6, 2010 5:07 PM

          also, Twilight Fortress still stands as the worst map in all of SC2

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      August 6, 2010 5:03 PM

      What happened? Was the drop shot down or what?

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      August 6, 2010 5:04 PM

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      August 6, 2010 5:04 PM

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      August 6, 2010 5:05 PM

      Why do you suck so hard?

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        August 6, 2010 5:06 PM

        :(

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          August 6, 2010 5:07 PM

          I haven't bought the game yet, sorry. I would totally play with you.

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            August 6, 2010 5:08 PM

            Should I? BB or download?

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              August 6, 2010 5:10 PM

              Of course you should. We need more shack games, but they usually result in 1 or 2 rage quitting and it falls apart.

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                August 6, 2010 5:11 PM

                Promise me you aren't going to rage quit in my games, and I'll go pick it up right now. ;)

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      August 6, 2010 5:13 PM

      Dammit, my screenshots from SC2 just turn out blank...

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      August 6, 2010 5:17 PM

      I want to get better with infestors. Any tips? They seem so fragile.

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        August 6, 2010 5:18 PM

        The strategy here seemed to be have twice as many as I had BC's. (which was about 20ish)

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          August 6, 2010 5:21 PM

          Haha, you had 10 BC's stolen with mind control all at once? Ouch.

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            August 6, 2010 5:26 PM

            Nah I'm exaggerating. He probably got 5 or 6 off, but I had to focus fire them down and by then the hydras and corrupters showed up. I don't remember exactly what happened as I was busy.

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              August 6, 2010 5:30 PM

              just watched. i way over counted the infestors. just got destroyed by hydras is all.

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          August 6, 2010 5:23 PM

          lol please have Lexicon cast that.

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      August 6, 2010 5:25 PM

      if you want to laugh at me, here is the replay.

      http://www.gamereplays.org/starcraft2/replays.php?game=33&show=download&id=136340

      25 minutes in

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        August 6, 2010 5:28 PM

        Prolly an easy question to answer, but how does bliz handle replays of older versions when they update the game.

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          August 6, 2010 5:28 PM

          Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't.

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            August 6, 2010 5:32 PM

            12 years of development and they couldn't fix it so that you can watch old replays? lol.

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              August 6, 2010 5:36 PM

              that was just something they did during the beta. i would expect that isn't gonna be the case anymroe.

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              August 6, 2010 5:48 PM

              I imagine that you can. During the beta, you'd get a new directory for all the stuff you'd downloaded, so in theory there's no reason the replay mechanism couldn't determine the patch number of the replay, and then go back and use those definitions to run through the replay.

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        August 6, 2010 5:28 PM

        i'll watch this just to see this infestor action, i never see them get used at all

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          August 6, 2010 5:31 PM

          as i said above, it really wasn't the infestors that mattered all tho they did grab a few of my bc's. it was the 2/2 hydras and corruptors + me having to focus fire down the newly popping infestors

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      August 6, 2010 5:31 PM

      That SC2 replay host thing better get ready for mwasher VS m0rfus!!

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      August 6, 2010 5:31 PM

      haah noob

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        August 6, 2010 5:33 PM

        when would you like me to show you PAIN?!??!?!

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          August 6, 2010 5:35 PM

          right now? bring it bitch. my bnet email is my first name and last name with a . in between @gmail.com

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            August 6, 2010 5:39 PM

            what a bunch of gayness. battlenet seems to be down so i can't even play my single player game. what a shitty piece of ass

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              August 6, 2010 5:41 PM

              i just logged in and sent you an invite. you are so full of bullshit excuses you little fgt.

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                August 6, 2010 6:09 PM

                i was just playing a 1 vs 1 game against the computer which i have never won and I JUST realized there's a whole other option for "Advanced buildings". I always fucking wondered why i couldn't build any of the advanced stuff. still lost though

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                  August 6, 2010 6:25 PM

                  you have to be kidding? Haven't you played any of the campaign? ever?

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                    August 6, 2010 6:28 PM

                    he never played SC1 man. what do you expect? {troll}

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                    August 6, 2010 8:46 PM

                    this is the guy who played Fallout 3 for like 30 hours before asking how to repair stuff (or reading the manual)

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              August 6, 2010 5:42 PM

              GTA Shackbattle!!!

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            August 6, 2010 5:40 PM

            242 vs. MWASHER

            LET'S GO BITCH

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              August 6, 2010 9:41 PM

              I want to see the replay

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              August 6, 2010 9:43 PM

              Where do you get your advanced units?

              LOL

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      August 6, 2010 5:32 PM

      gfc mwasher.

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        August 6, 2010 5:36 PM

        I don't know what that means

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          August 6, 2010 5:48 PM

          gentucky fried chicken

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          August 6, 2010 6:30 PM

          That's a motherfucking shame homie, it was hilarious -but you missed the boat.

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      August 6, 2010 6:22 PM

      IM COMING FOR YOU MWASHER!! - 84% installed...

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      August 6, 2010 6:35 PM

      i wanna play some 2v2s

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      August 6, 2010 7:05 PM

      i got to play 1 game with shackers then they all told me to leave and laughed :(

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        August 6, 2010 8:44 PM

        haha that was after your teammate had gg'd and left

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      August 6, 2010 8:40 PM

      ZvZ tunneled infestors for the win.

      I just managed to destroy an entire main mineral line in ZvZ with 2 tunneled infestors, spawning 8 infested terrans while burrowed. And even a few mutas. Because noone gets detection in ZvZ it seems.

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        August 6, 2010 9:15 PM

        as a zerg player I really don't know wtf to do in zvz games. It's almost pathetic.

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          August 6, 2010 9:48 PM

          It's taken me a long time to figure it out, and I still dont think I really have. That said, I have learned a few things.

          1. Zerglings are fast and you cant even pretend to wall off. So scout early. Put a zergling at the bottom of their ramp, hold the watch towers.
          2. ALWAYS get zergling speed. They cant wall off either, so dart and deal what damage you can, whenever you can.
          3. Pool slightly earlier than you otherwise would by 1 or 2 supply. Early zergling pressure is VERY likely.
          3. Do NOT fast expand. You will get rushed and not have enough lings. Conversely use speedlings and overlords to punish any fast hatcheries you see go down.
          4. Use spine crawlers. if it looks like they will be agressive, plunk one between your hatch and your minerals. If they keep it up, plunk 2 or 3. Later move them to your natural choke if at all possible.
          5. Banelings are aewsome. Ling + hydra is common and banelings will rape them. If they go roach try to sneak some banelings into their mineral line during an attack
          6. Infestors can be awesome. Rare detection means burrowed infestor harass can be very effective. And fungal growth is awesome against fast zerg balls. Frozen speedlings cant do squat against your ranged units.

          But most importantly, pool slightly earlier, get ling speed at first 100 gas, pump lings, and expand when you can defend.

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      August 6, 2010 8:57 PM

      anyone feel like playing a game?

      jose.150

      prefer some team or ffa games, gettin spanked in 1v1 tonight :(

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      August 6, 2010 8:58 PM

      I've spent about 2 hours now trying to beat a Very Hard AI as zerg. They are too good :(

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      August 6, 2010 9:03 PM

      Got a five-win streak going and i'm not ranked 39 in Diamond... so scared to keep playing! God I love this game & ranking system*


      *Yes, I know the pro-est pros hate not knowing if they are absolutely #1 or not, but this divisions business does exactly what Blizzard said it would - a feeling of competition at all levels of play!

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        August 6, 2010 9:17 PM

        you're *not* ranked 39d?

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        August 6, 2010 9:22 PM

        HAhaha, Brian. You're an SC2 adrenaline junkie.

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        August 6, 2010 9:36 PM

        I hated the matchmaking system at first, because despite being silver I was playing a majority of gold\platinum players. It frustrated me to no end losing over and over, but once I realized that I was massacring silver players it wasn't so bad. Now that I've settled into gold, it's much better.

        now for me:

        Games vs Silver are relatively easy
        Games vs Gold are generally a decent match
        Games vs Platinum are a challenge.

        w/ a majority of matches being against Gold

        I'm like 10 - 3 since moving to gold, so I assume I'll be in platinum before too long.

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          August 6, 2010 9:43 PM

          I still think they need another above diamond between it and the planned invite only pro-league.

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            August 6, 2010 10:06 PM

            I've had limited experience with anyone above platinum, but when the rankings settle a bit, some of the lower tier of each ladder will probably be bumped down.

            Me and a friend were playing 2v's and ran into a diamond team (who were both ranked diamond in 1v1 as well). They were probably better than me at 1v1, but I was surprised at some of the mistakes they were making. I was zergling going roach\hydra and my friend was protoss going colossi \ stalker initially. They were both zerg. We massacred their zergling\hydralisk army early. Instead of mixing it up to be able to do some damage to the colossi they just kept pumping zerglings and hydras the entire time challenging us to 1v1s and saying "scrubs just building random things". Anyway long digression\thinly veiled brag over, I can't imagine these guys really belong in diamond. I imagine these kind of players will eventually sort themselves out.

            Unless you think there is a big skill gap between mid tier and top tier diamond players, in which case I could see them adding a new ladder.


            I have the replay I should send it to the shackreplay thing

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              August 6, 2010 11:03 PM

              2v2/3v3 are a bit weird, them being diamond doesn't say too much because as 2 zerg they might have just got there by doing a double 10 pool every game. I see this a lot with players just going for a mass zergling/marine/zealot rush without getting gas to take 1 player out right away. When you manage to hold them off or win 2v3 or something they'll start crying. :D

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        August 6, 2010 10:13 PM

        Even though I'm only a mid-level Platinum player I'm really in the same boat. The more success I have the more I worry about playing and potentially losing my rank!

        The competitive nature of playing is extremely addicting and fun though. Mostly I try to make sure I stay the highest rank 1v1 player out of all my friends. ;D

        I wonder if they'll ever impliment any kind of attrition to the rankings.

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        August 6, 2010 10:16 PM

        maybe u dont give yourself credit/

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          August 6, 2010 10:21 PM

          The problem is Diamond is the only place for the pro's right now. It'll all settle eventually, but even if I drop to platinum, there should be a greater separation between platinum and pro players.

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      August 6, 2010 10:30 PM

      gg happynoodle and midgetherder. that was pretty funny. I guess sometimes you luck out and the other team's main guy literally falls asleep.

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      August 6, 2010 10:55 PM

      Welp, I just played my first match in 10 years. Lost for sure, but with some gusto.

      I was Terran, he was Protoss. Not a lot to it really. We traded blows at the start--I completely wiped his early void ray rush with Marines + Stim. Then marched on to destroy a expansion in the works. By then I had a fair size group of marines and murauders assembled, about 18 units total, with 1st level upgrades, and knocked on his front door.

      Got him down to about 6 units and a few turrets before I finally wiped. A few short minutes later, he knocked on mine, and that was that.

      I wish there was a better way to learn the units. Having separate units in the SP against the MP basically is like a battlecruiser-sized middle-finger to the newcomer--I was counting on the SP experience I had to help me out, even just a little, in the MP.

      I take solace that if I had marched in with a few more murauders and marines, or had found his main base sooner (it was literally in the last of 3 possible places), I MIGHT have beaten him, though he had me outgunned in almost every way in the final stat sheet. It was both of our first matches.

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        August 7, 2010 1:52 AM

        Alright, so I dicked around in challenges, and did a few AI battles and... fuck, I'm actually having fun.

        I might actually buy this when my trial runs out!

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      August 6, 2010 11:16 PM

      MY ARMY VALUE

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      August 6, 2010 11:44 PM

      ugh, I just had like a 5 game losing streak in 2v2. I'm surely being too passive but basically any time zerg is involved (god forbid 2) I start like 10 gating to prevent a ling rush. I think I'm being too tentative but most of the time they actually were doing that rush and had I not done a quick wall with a 10 gate I think they'd have gotten in. But then I can't get out and the mutas/tanks arrive :(

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      August 7, 2010 3:32 AM

      Sorry I wasn't on. Passed out at like 8pm

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      August 7, 2010 3:42 AM

      me and 2 friends were kicking ass on 3v3 last night. Won all the placement games, kicked some more ass then got schooled badly by some plat players

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