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July 13, 2005 6:55 PM

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Well we had hoped to be announcing something last night regarding the console coverage and extra content around these parts but some unforseen stuff kinda pushed that back a little bit. (Just a day or two) We'll let you guys know what is going on as soon as we do! In the mean time here is some really important stuff you need to read:

- Remember the birth of the web?
- Seeing boobies? Well... ok.
- iPod still hot
- TV is complete, Hulk Hogan is back
- Vlogging Sigh.
- Planet has 3 suns, refused to pay child support

Lastly, congrats SomethingAwul on making an apperanace on G4! I found the interview informative and insightful

Steve Gibson

Steve Gibson is the cofounder of Shacknews.com. Originally known as sCary's Quakeholio back in 1996, Steve is now President of Gearbox Publishing after selling Shacknews to GameFly in 2009.

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Luminair

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July 13, 2005 6:56 PM

Still no official Alec announcement, oh well. RIP :[
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  July 13, 2005 6:59 PM
  
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- omnova
  
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  July 13, 2005 6:59 PM
  
  Bring him back! *uses a Phoenix Down*
- Saber22
  
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  July 13, 2005 7:01 PM
  
  it would have been because of the gamespy comments. They wouldn't have been happy been accused of ripping stuff off the shack. At the time Alec made the comments I kind of wondered why he would suggest that. I'm no fan of Gamespy but if Epic let the Shack scan the booklet surely they wouldn't mind a bit of exposure from Gamespy as well?
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    July 13, 2005 7:03 PM
    
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    - Saber22
      
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      July 13, 2005 7:14 PM
      
      it was his comments in one of the LNCs on the front page that would have caused the stir i think.
      
      i didn't mind Alec but I do think some of his posts/comments lacked the integrity of what Steve/Maarten/Sander have given us for ages. The Shack is pretty big now, you can't just publically sledge other people and sites without it being noticed.
      - stgdz
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:20 PM
        
        Really, look at the screenshots.
        
        Its pretty obivious that they took the media. Sucks that shacknews didn't embed a small image in one of the images to identify it as there property.
        
        http://xbox.gamespy.com/xbox-360/gears-of-war/631759p1.html
        
        http://www.shacknews.com/extras/destroyedbeauty/070505_destroyedbeauty_01.x
        
        Saber22
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:27 PM
        
        I understand that, but without concrete proof you can't just ago ahead and slander them.
        
        Maybe the Shack will start watermarking images?
      - SiW73
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:34 PM
        
        I know what you're saying, and I do agree, but it's hard to say that a few comments from Alec are much different from the randomness that comes from Maarten and Steve in FP and ER. Is "Me? No u" a sign of a "professional" site? Would any of us be interested in reading the shack if it was yet another "professional" site?
        
        FWIW, I think the business side of things is handled professionally, which is what counts. I think Alec went a step too far by calling out a specific competitor, but at the same time, I'm tired of industry bullshit and backslapping.
        
        Saber22
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:42 PM
        
        Ah yeh I'm not argueing for either Steve or Maartens maturity here haha. I'm talking about integrity, meaning that I don't see those guys confusing issues or taking things too far.
        
        Little things in Alec's LNC posts that were totally misleading annoyed me a lot. I don't mind the humor this site has, it's partly why I come here. But I don't like reading stuff that is misleading on purpose. That's what I mean by integrity.
        
        zuga
        
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        July 13, 2005 11:00 PM
        
        Har. The business side of things is not handled professionally. I'll guarantee you that.
      - Zero|DPX
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:46 PM
        
        Maarten specifically responded in a thread speculating this, and said (paraphrase) "it wasn't because of some of his recent articles as some of you have been speculating" (emphasis mine). This seems pretty clear that it was NOT about the Gamespy stuff to me.
        
        Saber22
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:51 PM
        
        It's not clear at all to me. That to me speculates that is more likely about the article on Sony's Ken Kuturagi. Like I said above the articles aren't the problem, it's his post on the LNC that was the issue.
        
        Can you explain why the comments we are talking about have been removed?
        http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/37681/
    - Fred Garvin
      
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      July 13, 2005 8:14 PM
      
      Does Alec gotta drop a server?
  - sammyl
    
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    July 13, 2005 7:06 PM
    
    link to comments?
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      July 13, 2005 7:07 PM
      
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  - osiris_brad
    
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    July 13, 2005 7:13 PM
    
    No no, they really did just photoshop his shots. Did you not see the anim? GSI does shit like that all the time. I ran a site competing with gamespy once... they steal shit left and right. They are grade A assholes.
    - hube
      
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      July 13, 2005 7:24 PM
      
      Yeah but half the stuff I was reading for the past bit in LNC felt ripped or linked from IGN so I didn't see why he was all bent outta shape. Its the internet; everything is copied.
      - SiW73
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:31 PM
        
        I don't think he was all bent out of shape, more amused by it.
  - zuga
    
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    July 13, 2005 10:58 PM
    
    Pretty sure he was fired close to 2 weeks before he even made that accusation...
    - SpiderMonkey
      
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      July 14, 2005 3:47 AM
      
      Yeah exactly. July 06 = day he made those comments, July 10 = last day on job? That's hardly 14 days apart. Therefore those simply can't have been what got him fired.
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  July 13, 2005 7:02 PM
  
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    July 13, 2005 7:04 PM
    
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        July 13, 2005 7:11 PM
        
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        Porkasaurus
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:16 PM
        
        If he parted on good terms, we would have seen an official goodbye news item, that either he moved onto another gig or didn't have time for it anymore etc.
        
        Even if they couldn't afford him anymore I think any reasonable business person would then give him a chance to make himself available for new work on the site.
        
        By Marteen saying he wouldn't go into details is just as bad as saying they had problems with him.
        
        Good luck Alec.
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:29 PM
        
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        zuga
        
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        July 13, 2005 11:04 PM
        
        Look at the way Jason left and look at the way Alec left. Two totally different goodbyes. One was open and honest, the other was cryptic and barely confirmed. This didn't end on an up note.
- cltcprd
  
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  July 13, 2005 7:08 PM
  
  I'm officially starting the Armybob for Console Editor Campaign right here! I don't care if he doesn't want it, he's gonna do it anyways
  - sammyl
    
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    July 13, 2005 7:09 PM
    
    No way, I nominate Phil
    - ColoradoCNC
      
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      July 13, 2005 7:10 PM
      
      Evening NWS would be awesome...
      - electroly
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:14 PM
        
        ^^^^ This has serious potential. :)
  - armybob
    
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    July 13, 2005 7:10 PM
    
    no
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      July 13, 2005 7:21 PM
      
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  - ArtilleryMarker
    
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    July 13, 2005 7:54 PM
    
    I'd do it for a few peanuts.. I'm hungry! seriously, I would do it.
- ColoradoCNC
  
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  July 13, 2005 7:09 PM
  
  I just hope they are hiring for more writers soon. I would apply for that position in a second (much better than the site I do work for now).
  - porp
    
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    July 13, 2005 7:19 PM
    
    yeah, we'd get 100 political comments a day. on the front page.
    - ColoradoCNC
      
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      July 13, 2005 7:23 PM
      
      Comedy Zinc right there
      - Ajax
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:25 PM
        
        More like Comedy ZING!
      - tort feasor
        
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        July 13, 2005 8:28 PM
        
        http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=10401332
- MONGOLOID
  
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  July 13, 2005 7:22 PM
  
  I say we make up wild rumours about why he was canned.
  
  Alec was fired because he hates Snicker bars
  - jasonepowell
    
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    July 13, 2005 7:23 PM
    
    Alec was fired because he kept touching Maarten's ass.
    - jergin
      
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      July 13, 2005 7:25 PM
      
      maybe because he wouldnt!
      - slax0r
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:27 PM
        
        It was because he wanted a threeway with Marteen and Sander and Steve wasn't invited.
        
        wheat
        
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        July 13, 2005 7:28 PM
        
        His name is Sander PILE-ON... hyuk hyuk!
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    July 13, 2005 7:48 PM
    
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    - draconic
      
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      July 13, 2005 7:50 PM
      
      yes but the question is, did he pull off a chicago spaghetti fry?
      
      cow, goat, close enough.
    - ColoradoCNC
      
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      July 13, 2005 8:13 PM
      
      Actually, it was his favorite goatse
  - Crimsonbeak
    
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    July 13, 2005 8:25 PM
    
    Steve and Alec got in to a fight about who the best giant japanese monster is. Alec said Baragon while Steve said Mechagodzilla. Alec then called Steve a sellout hack. Steve responded by giving the posting tool a mechagodzilla skin. Alec then went on a tirade about anal spelunking turd pirates, I think Steve was mentioned somwhere in there too. So Steve decided it was time for Alec to go. Maarten having just finished his last pop-tart and being in the emotionally distraught state that brings agreed but thinks that Ultraman is the coolest I mean he has Ultra in the name.
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- mikage
  
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  July 13, 2005 8:24 PM
  
  They need to hire JCal back(?) again, content would BOOM.
  - Entity
    
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    July 13, 2005 8:42 PM
    
    I've been here a long time, and I don't recognize that name at all.
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      July 13, 2005 8:43 PM
      
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    - stgdz
      
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      July 13, 2005 8:45 PM
      
      The last I remember is that it went like this with jcal
      
      Voodooextreme->homelanfed->retirement
      
      Not sure if he was with the shack before VE.
  - pupismyname
    
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    July 13, 2005 8:47 PM
    
    jcal has a job
    
    http://www.gamecloud.com/
    - mikage
      
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      July 13, 2005 9:08 PM
      
      I know that, but he must join the dark side.
  - huds0n
    
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    July 13, 2005 8:49 PM
    
    JCal never worked for Shacked. He used to be over at Stomped.
    - mikage
      
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      July 13, 2005 9:10 PM
      
      I know JCal posted news on the shack for a short time before going to homelanfed.
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    July 13, 2005 8:56 PM
    
    stomped4ever
  - personaljesus
    
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    July 13, 2005 9:35 PM
    
    how about JBer?
- Entity
  
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  July 13, 2005 8:33 PM
  
  It's never cool when someone's out of a job. Hell, I don't even know what that would be like as I've never been unemployed and in financial trouble since I started working.
  
  That said, I'll repeat what I said in one of the earlier threads. I don't like Alec. I found he was an opinionated jerk, personally. I hope the next guy is more Steve or Maarten-esque, where they just print the news and accept all submissions, regardless of their personal tastes or their presumptions of the userbase's tastes.
  
  repost from earlier
  I remember asking for Harry Potter : Azkaban for GBA to be added to Shackreviews, but he wouldn't do it because "It's not something Shackers would play. You can feel free to review it here in the LNC comments!" where no one will read it, and it won't be added to the search, which is a complete load of horseshit. I remember being cranky because:
  1. People here like Harry Potter. Just you wait and see this weekend.
  2. It was a good card-based RPG, Harry Potter or not.
  - sweat
    
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    July 13, 2005 8:52 PM
    
    I thought Harry potter was for 7 year olds?
    - K1Bond007
      
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      July 13, 2005 9:10 PM
      
      I'm over 3x that age and I dig it. Not so much the games though, but I don't see a problem if something is requested to add it as Entity said. If someone is willing to review a game.. why the hell not?
    - lord cecil
      
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      July 13, 2005 9:13 PM
      
      it has a better more detailed world than nearly everything else out there. Go to a library this weekend and you'll see everyone from 9 year olds in 3rd grade to middle aged men with PhD's reading the books.
      
      I'll read it at the end of the month on my airplane ride back home, looking forward to it. =D
  - TwiLyght
    
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    July 13, 2005 9:22 PM
    
    The guy wasn't really a jerk but he definitely wasn't professional in his writing.
    
    Late Night Consoling is a major headline every night and shouldn't use the same type of language in Werd or Evening Reading. Some of his writing seemed like it came word-for-word from some high school kid who didn't know the difference between professional writing and the language you use at home and with friends.
    - sweat
      
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      July 13, 2005 9:25 PM
      
      this is the wrong place for prefessional writers and the people who love them. This site is and should be 100% content, 0% proffesional writing.
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        July 13, 2005 9:31 PM
        
        I agree. I always thought he did a great job.
  - floated
    
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    July 13, 2005 9:30 PM
    
    You just said what I said last night, but in the way that I actually wanted to say it, but wouldn't because of my reputation for being argumentative.
    
    GJ, I'm proud of you for speaking my mind for me, so that I don't have to.
- Nighthavvk
  
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  July 13, 2005 11:11 PM
  
  i just hope they replace the content. front page reads like a blog.
  - Serpico74
    
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    July 14, 2005 4:02 AM
    
    It is a blog, pretty much. One that I've been addicted to for eight-odd years, but a blog nonetheless.
    
    Gussy it up with Shackreviews, LNC, the odd article (I REALLY wish Jason got to write more of those), we still know what the shack is at its core.
    
    This isn't bad, btw. If it wasn't I wouldn't keep coming here multiple times a day.