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    April 2, 2010 5:12 AM

    God help me I think I'm going to try Dwarf Fortress after starting that 43 part video tutorial on youtube posted yesterday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koZUS2h-Yzc

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      April 2, 2010 5:12 AM

      good luck

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      April 2, 2010 5:14 AM

      43 part tutorial o_O

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        April 2, 2010 5:54 AM

        And they don't even get to the good stuff!

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        April 2, 2010 6:06 AM

        lol yeah wtf

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        April 2, 2010 8:25 AM

        I got my butt eaten for pointing that out yesterday.

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          April 2, 2010 8:31 AM

          You don't have the kind of ShackCred that I do.

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      April 2, 2010 5:30 AM

      It's a good tutorial but holy crap 43 parts is just crazy.

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        April 2, 2010 5:59 AM

        seriously. DF is complicated but it's not that complicated.

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          April 2, 2010 6:09 AM

          They are good for people who dont know certin things. I watched a few of them when i was first starting out and they were a great help.

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            April 2, 2010 6:33 AM

            sure, but still, 43 parts sounds more like "comprehensive walkthrough" rather than "tutorial"

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      April 2, 2010 7:59 AM

      Ok guys, new version, how the hell do I start farming in a reasonable amount of time? I got so used to how easy it was in 40d that I'm not sure how to approach it now. Do I need to use floodgates and drain a lake? Isn't there a way to do it with buckets? I couldn't figure it out last night.

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        April 2, 2010 8:01 AM

        do pond zones not work? also you could just mine straight into surface ponds and farm in the spillout

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          April 2, 2010 8:01 AM

          (i haven't had time to actually play yet but this is what i would try)

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            April 2, 2010 8:04 AM

            I could drain a surface pond without trying to be neat about it just to get started, I guess. My main concern with that is I don't like creating additional entrances to my fortress. Sure you can wall it back up, but I never quite trusted the game not to let something sneak in once I've breached the surface.

            How do pond zones work? I attempted to create a pond zone on the area I wanted to farm but it said (0) valid tiles.

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              April 2, 2010 8:08 AM

              dig a pit with channels and then make it a pond zone. your dwarves will fill it with buckets of water.

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                April 2, 2010 8:11 AM

                to clarify, the "zone" should be the open space over the pit, or maybe the squares around the rim, i forget

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                  April 2, 2010 8:12 AM

                  Ohh, ok, that makes more sense I guess.

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                    April 2, 2010 8:14 AM

                    you can also use the same kind of zone as a "pit" where you can throw in caged animals. this is great for executing goblins caught in cage traps via exotic animals

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                      April 2, 2010 8:17 AM

                      that explains why one of the screens I saw had a list of animals on it

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                        April 2, 2010 8:18 AM

                        in my best fortress i had a pit with a giant scorpion and a leopard in it, that was awesome.

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                          April 2, 2010 8:29 AM

                          did they get along?

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                            April 2, 2010 8:30 AM

                            yep, they were buddies. i eventually had to retire them from the pit because they got too many war wounds

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        April 2, 2010 8:04 AM

        I would suggest outside farming with seeds from gathered plants.

        Or build your farm room one level below a pond so dumping it in there is easy.

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      April 2, 2010 8:05 AM

      I wish you the best of luck. it is an awesome game. however right now will be the hardest time ever to start playing, as a fair amount of old info is now inaccurate. At least the wiki is getting updated pretty fast: http://df.magmawiki.com

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        April 2, 2010 8:08 AM

        i'm gonna try really hard not to look at the wiki and just figure out new stuff on my own for a while

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      April 2, 2010 8:17 AM

      Those tuts aren't even that great. Read this: http://afteractionreporter.com/2009/02/09/the-complete-and-utter-newby-tutorial-for-dwarf-fortress-part-1-wtf/

      much easier to understand

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      April 2, 2010 8:30 AM

      Has anyone explored an underground cavern in the new version? Fight any batmen? Stories!

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        April 2, 2010 8:31 AM

        i'm super psyched that apparently there's almost always magma on your map now, but you'll have to work to harness it

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          April 2, 2010 8:36 AM

          Yeah, that's a good thing. My one game I started has a lot more readily accessible ore than usual, too. I don't know if it's a fluke or not, but there is a ton of iron ores and both kinds of coal exposed on the hillside, and I've been digging through oodles of it just from opening a few rooms to start in. I consider it a good thing if resources become less scarce while the military challenges increase. It's fun to make weapons and armor and equip armies!

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            April 2, 2010 8:39 AM

            it seems like there's a sedimentary layer almost everywhere on the world map now, which means it's way, way easier to get fuel. iron ores are also common in sedimentary layers.

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              April 2, 2010 8:48 AM

              I think I can already make steel and I don't even have a farm yet!

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