Morning Discussion
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Friday Morning Minecraft Thread!
Nuclear Bunker Edition
Multiplayer Alpha Servers!
MercFox1 : 74.83.233.187:25566
Haxim : 199.216.192.102
zuff : 75.178.46.57
AgentPothead : shackcraft.sytes.net
Teamspeak : ts.shackbattles.com : 9987-
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This is the second Minecraft hype fest for the shack. The first one was when creative hit and I don't remember it lasting this long or being this intense. This is really so improved over Creative it's amazing. Even if you don't play the game until it hits beta or retail, it's hard to pass up for only 13$ which is what it is until beta.
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I only have one screenshot so far. http://agentpothead.com/bulletbillvsbowser.png But it is a pretty awesome screenshot.
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Seecret Friday 8! OooooOOOoo!
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/982299297/seecret-friday-8-oooooooooo-
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http://imgur.com/MH5Bd.png
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http://i38.tinypic.com/20t2rko.jpg
Apparently they're one block high but can't be jumped over. -
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First night in Caszuffania]*
Vivid and I playing with a chicken: http://www.shackpics.com/files/1_2th8p0rwavocno96qrpt.png
Inside of our new pyarmid: http://www.shackpics.com/files/2_x0ivy5ay9vgcs8d2gp77.png
Outside of our pyarmid, sun is setting: http://www.shackpics.com/files/3_m1znnfry7lvap90b7t5u.png
and setting: http://www.shackpics.com/files/4_51rkbaj1uvpmttd0wu7a.png
and getting darker: http://www.shackpics.com/files/6_yo09tx23wxsyji19c719.png
IT'S FULL OF STARS http://www.shackpics.com/files/7_5ecvgrdkzy23n3sasv02.png
Moon: http://www.shackpics.com/files/8_umh36gz3652pkhufxubo.png
Finding your way around will be easier at night: http://www.shackpics.com/files/11_v5a2s7w856ilih9pache.png
stuff looks so much more impressive at night: http://www.shackpics.com/files/12_y3t94fuliogjnlj5rtaw.png
http://www.shackpics.com/files/13_srekoh3sxuul6pfcdovq.png
http://www.shackpics.com/files/10_tceaiqdhmh7jxw73c751.png
Moon at it's peak: http://www.shackpics.com/files/14_oo1tggm5yhje76ovl3t2.png
beedeegee's lighthouse glowing well: http://www.shackpics.com/files/15_afye940431838e082f7l.png
http://www.shackpics.com/files/16_cw6y5qb3a1sj6m1gdqh1.png
Sun rising: http://www.shackpics.com/files/17_dmr7unczuic11phbhhcg.png
http://www.shackpics.com/files/18_ere55wqr3b8ytbyryubn.png
PEEEGIES! http://www.shackpics.com/files/19_560rwcy9fa8b9v8lx5ie.png
Building a fence: http://www.shackpics.com/files/20_6tuobz1f15a2z2xkp73b.png
http://www.shackpics.com/files/22_tinzue53sw040k8v2ocl.png
http://www.shackpics.com/files/21_flf7wy4ugvsgnp8abf8x.png
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Persister updated! http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?t5gj1qbo3egftic
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If any one has minor holes in their walls near spawn, or the odd floor tile dug out, I apologize. My 5 year old son sat down and started playing on my older son, Autobro's account.
He is definitely not to blame for the major griefing, he is not using persister and has only made wood tools, but still. I told him he could get us banned and that I would take away his 360 so I doubt it will happen again. -
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Latest Update Woes:
Supposedly many of the modders are upset with Notch's half-ass update. SuperLlama being one of them:
"Arg, due to the bugginess of friday 8, I've lost the will to update my mod, possibly because it's very likely that he'll release a bugfix within a few hours-- also possibly because notch has failed us."
And a good quote from FrostyWolf:
"On top of it, hes about to go away again, for what, two weeks?
and one of them is to meet with Valve. I wonder what thats about. Last I checked, it was only a web form and a application and email, maybe a phone call, to get a indy game on steam. They dont fly you half way around the globe to meet with them personally. I just hope they don't sit him down, set a bag of money in front of him, and Minecraft goes the way of Narbacular Drop and Tag: The Power of Paint."
This stuff has me a bit worried.-
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That wasn't the point at all. Notch posted a pretty shitty update and is now going on vacation for two more weeks to go to Valve, leaving us with a half-broken game until he gets back.
People say he's just going to Valve to put his game on Steam but as Frosty points out that's something that can be done over the internet and doesn't require flying someone across the world.
Chances are they may give Notch an offer he can't refuse and then things will change greatly.
And don't shit on the modders, they've made SMP more playable than you can imagine. Llama is the reason furnaces even work.-
http://notch.tumblr.com/
Read it.
And, Minecraft is in Beta. -
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Chickens and pigs: Indestructible. When they start drowning you just here "BAWK!BAWK!BAWK!"
Fences: Can not jump over, if you get on top of them you get stuck in a damage loop. Also, they seem to be turning invisible.
Doors: Work, until the bottom half opens independently of the top half. Also, they seem to open themselves randomly. (iron doors and switches still not working)
Player Damage: Now off on all difficulties.
Day/Night: Working. (SO AWESOME)
Torches: Hurray, I can not duplicate the floating torch glitch anymore.
F5: No longer "over the shoulder".
Duplicating Items?: Closing the inventory with an item on the cursor appears to drop the item, but it remains on the cursor when you open your inventory again. This can be repeated for infinite item duplication in multiplayer.
Inventory: Still client side, but now none of the icons for blocks work when viewing it with "I". *FIXED* Update Client.
Here's the thread so i can stop having to quote from it and you guys can just stop "assuming" that they are being bitches:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1012&t=23483&p=484029#p484029
You all think they're being entitled but you guys wouldn't have been playing SMP for this long if it wasn't for these guys.-
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He will be adding proper mod support in the future so people can properly implement stuff that he doesn't, although I expect most of those things you mentioned will indeed be put in, except for things against the spirit of the game like teleporting. Right now people are hacking the code to add features to an alpha game and then crying when it breaks on a patch. God people are stupid. Stupid stupid stupid.
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Ugh they're not crying because it breaks their mods and patches, they haven't cried at all the whole time. They've just always fixed their mods and moved on.
What they are bitching about is how Notch's updates are become less and less meaty and useful to more and more buggy and meaningless. It's like he's not really putting his all into it like he was before.
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That last sentence is so fucking disrespectful to the guy. He's pouring his heart and soul in to the development of this game and anyone with actual experience in game development can tell that. But then you have retarded fucks who think they know what it takes to do what he is doing, saying that he's not putting enough effort in to his project.
I mean jesus fucking christ there are so little games ever that have had such rapid development with frequent patches like this. And now simply because there was one point in time where he was releasing features at a frequency of X, people are bitching because that frequency has dropped to anything below X, even though X is still greater than it is for pretty much every other game you could buy out there, ESPECIALLY ones done with a one-man development team.
He has been doing this whole "open communication" thing for a while now, and that's the problem. It's why so few developers do it; retarded fucks on the Internet, when given too much information, think they have become experts on what the developer is doing.-
I don't have to be an expert to see that the latest update he just pushed is a buggy piece of crap and may not be updated for 2 or more weeks while he's traveling. That's not good for his game or customers regarless of how you look at it. If he knew it wasn't stable (which would be easy if to tell if you just played around with it for an hour or two) he shouldn't have pushed it.
I mean at least he could have pushed it then waited an hour for a response and if it was a bad response and it was obviously broken he could rollback and tell us he'll take care of it after he's off vacation. Now he's forced us to use and we can't rollback. Clients won't connect to old servers and old clients won't connect to new servers.
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Exactly. I don't know what's up Hemtroll's ass about this but each update notch puts out is more and more buggy.
My main concern is the future of this game and what valve's plans are.
The "entitled" modders have made the SMP playable. And instead of Notch taking their features and implementing into his game he releases an update that's half-ass and doesn't add anything to make the game more stable. He actually makes it less stable with duplicating inventory items.-
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The part "you won't comment on" is the part I'm worried about and the whole reason I started made the first post.
It feels Notch is kinda focused on more moneyhats than more customers at the moment. Before the game got real big and he wasn't making $50K a day, his updates were huge and zero to few bugs. Since the game blew up, seems like he's been too busy rubbing corporate elbows then actually caring about the amount of content put in and his workflow just seem's half-ass.
I feel he's refreshing his inbox more than being a code-monkey.-
Notch has admitted in various interviews, on Twitter, and on his blog that he needs help and does not know what do do on the business side of things. His little game was awesome enough that he figured out he could charge people to play the buggy, unfinished in-progress version and he's made damn near a million dollars from it. Now he needs to figure out his business and how to keep these rabid fans happy.
Thank God for the modders, without them we could not have as much fun in SMP as we've been having. BUT... I have been focusing my efforts on single player, which is far, far less buggy and way more feature-complete. This word alone should be enough to quell any argument about the state of the game itself: "Alpha".
I had a long conversation with my brother last night abotu what would happen if this game goes to Valve like Narbtacular Drop or Tag, or Left 4 Dead, or CS, of TF2. Tell me this, are ALL of those games not some of the best PC games ever made? Luckily, Valve is my favorite developer of all time. I look forward to hearing from Notch about their conversation, but again, he has stated multiple times that he wants to move forward with his own company, that he and he alone will be heading development, and that he will never "sell out". That's all left to be determined, but we shall see. Notch is the shit and so is Minecraft.
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True. And valve is his idol. I'm in no way disrespecting Notch because what he wants to do is his business. I just fear for the future of this game.
The next two weeks he'll be gone and if he leaves the game in it's current state (no mobs, no server side inventory, shitty furnances and duplicating inventory), I think a lot of what makes Minecraft magical will start to fade.
But who know's, I am not in anyway wanting this game to be a failure. I would love Notch to get resources from Valve to have his own studio run the way he wants and not have to go through the valve development process. Having a team make Minecraft polished and beautiful and even add a few more polygons for christ's sake.
I can just imagine him being in their offices, already thinking they are the gods of the gaming world and dropping fat stacks in front of him. How will he react?-
Fuck fear, just keep playing the damn thing and getting the word out. It's in Alpha, but even then, it's still fun (unless you happen to be a modder who cannot handle recoding shit cuz you're a big baby).
Plus that comment about VALVe makes them sound like the Monopoly guy. Yeah sure, they're successful, but it makes them sound like greedy corporate assholes which, from their track record, has been the complete opposite.
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I personally think Notch screwed himself by releasing multiplayer. When it was single player it was all in fun just waiting for the friday update and messing around seeing what Notch put in.
Now that multiplayer is out the problems alone with implementing it are preventing work from being done on new content. Now the new content is probably going to be lower quality and quantity.
I mean multiplayer is cool and all, but I liked MC before it went multiplayer.-
He'd still be working on multiplayer though, even if he hadn't released the current server build. He said himself that if you don't think he should be releasing the multiplayer in it's current state, then just pretend the last few SMP server releases haven't been happening. The thing is that he's been busy with BigJam and this Valve thing, which has cut into more of his SP development time (and development time as a whole) than just releasing/supporting SMP.
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Caszuffania Latest Cartograph: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1125473/Caszuffvania-After.jpg
Before: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1125473/Caszuffvania-Before.jpg-
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Cartograph Updated as of 7:00pm EST
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1125473/Caszuffvania-After.jpg
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ALRIGHT BOYS I'M HOOOOME!!!
I'm going to take a quit shower, and after that upgrade the server. Hopefully, I'll be able to do THAT, render a new Carto for you fgts, and take a new world version before THIS FEMALE I'VE BEEN TEXTING gets here.
This'll pretty much be the only free time I have to mess with the server tonight, because after THIS FEMALE and I get some ice cream, I'm heading a to friend's birthday party.
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SERVER UPDATED!!!
Running the new Llamacraft mod, updated Persister link is below. Make sure you update your client, and then run the new persister!
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/persister-20100820.jar
Cartograph and new version are in progress, but I'm not going to have time to post those.
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