Morning Discussion

"What's a second-person shooter then?" is a question we've all felt quite smug asking at one time or another. Turns out, Battlefield: Bad Company 2 comes quite close.

I started playing the singleplayer campaign last week and scarcely a minute goes by without the game fading to black and entering a cutscene. If I'm lucky it'll be a third-person cutscene--something I'm rarely excited to see in an FPS--but a terrible proportion of them are from a first-person perspective with the game deciding where 'my' character should stand and what they find interesting to look at. I'm constantly ripped out of the world to observe a fun-ish skit. It's a poor second-person narrative--"You stand there, staring gormlessly while someone else does something interesting."

This might be more understandable if I were playing as a definite character, if the game were attempting to force me into 'being' Marlowe, but I don't see that. "Hey!" the game would be yelling. "You're this nondescript, quiet white male, yeah? The one with barely more prescribed personality than Gordon Freeman. Isn't that great?" No.

I imagine DICE was attempting to boost the cinematic, re-told story feel but the cutscenes do little that wouldn't be better in first-person and add nowhere near as much as they take away. Perhaps the cutscenes are simply for technical reasons, masking asset streaming or similar. No matter what, it's weird and unpleasant.

It's a shame because while the cutscenes are terrible, the mish-mash of 'realistic' and arcade play is weird and trying to figure out who's shotgunning your face through a thick cloud of smoke is awful, the game is quite enjoyable. I have a jolly jaunt to venture off on with a wide and wonderful selection of shotguns and sniper rifles--that'll do for me.

From The Chatty
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    July 12, 2010 5:01 AM

    I want to go home and play my really old video game!

    What do YOU want to do?

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      July 12, 2010 5:02 AM

      (Final Fantasy XII)

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      July 12, 2010 5:03 AM

      Hijack: So is Elliot sick or why are they having a Best Of today?

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        July 12, 2010 5:07 AM

        They're off this week, I believe. He announced it on Friday.

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        July 12, 2010 5:08 AM

        i wonder how much shit he gets from execs for taking time off? like sick days.

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      July 12, 2010 5:03 AM

      go home and sleep. So tired today, too fucking hot to sleep and got a nice headache going on.

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      July 12, 2010 5:04 AM

      I think I'll continue leveling my troll mage, which I did for most of the weekend. Cursed be thee, Blizzard, for creating this game. I can stay away for months, or I can play an hour a week for months, but when I set my mind to getting some character up to snuff... it gets bad.

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      July 12, 2010 5:07 AM

      I'm off sick so I shall play tf2 or Crackdown 2! probably both! not at the same time!

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      July 12, 2010 5:10 AM

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      July 12, 2010 5:15 AM

      It's my day off, finished my errands by 8 am. Now I have the whole day! Modded Fallout 3 time
      !

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      July 12, 2010 5:25 AM

      Go home and sleep. Or play Uncharted 2.God, Uncharted 2. I love you, Uncharted 2.

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        July 12, 2010 5:31 AM

        It's a solid game.

        "Alriiiiigght!"

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      July 12, 2010 5:41 AM

      i just im'd my boss and got today off because i was up too late playing tf2, so now i can play stalker all day, or maybe more tf2!

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      July 12, 2010 6:05 AM

      I want to go home and play WH20k dark crusade...the world map campaign is very addicting.

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      July 12, 2010 6:58 AM

      I want a few days off to kick back, relax, do some running and log some time with a few more games. I've made decent progress of my backlog, but I still have yet to finish DoW II (non-expansion SP) or play Dead Space.

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      July 12, 2010 7:16 AM

      I started playing Police Quest 1 over the weekend. Was fun!

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      July 12, 2010 7:21 AM

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      July 12, 2010 7:23 AM

      I want to continue playing borderlands to see if I can eek out $10 worth of enjoyment out of the game. so far it's rather disappointing

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      July 12, 2010 7:27 AM

      I've decided that I need to stop being an idiot and finish playing Beyond Good & Evil (which I have on Steam and GoG). I never got very far into it.

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      July 12, 2010 7:29 AM

      Play more Galacitc Civilizations 2.

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        July 12, 2010 7:33 AM

        Also, some D&D dammit (btw, we're still looking for a DM if anyone's interested).

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      July 12, 2010 7:30 AM

      I want to be at home playing more Transformers. I don't care if reviews peg it as average, I'm having lots of fun with it.

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      July 12, 2010 7:32 AM

      Not go to photo class.

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      July 12, 2010 7:38 AM

      Super Street Fighter IV . Also, I'd rather stay home than travel for work this week.

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      July 12, 2010 7:44 AM

      Invent teleportation so I don't have to drive to work every day.

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        July 12, 2010 10:13 AM

        Also would've helped against not being a victim of a hit-and-run car accident.

        Of course, with my luck, the teleportation device would transport me and I would be missing a crucial body part.

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          July 12, 2010 12:20 PM

          Damned lungs, always the lungs, I'm going to have to upgrade before the lease is up.

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      July 12, 2010 8:16 AM

      Work on one of my iPhone projects.

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      July 12, 2010 8:41 AM

      Playing FF2 Dawn of Souls on my iphone, about 10 hours in and still a lot to go... great game

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      July 12, 2010 8:44 AM

      I want to go home and play Jagged Alliance 2!

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        July 12, 2010 8:46 AM

        You do the Drassen even yet?

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          July 12, 2010 9:44 AM

          Yup. Hired Raven for 1 day, got her sniper rifle, put my sniper on the roof of a building and killed dudes while they were distracted by the poor doomed militia. Once he ran out of ammo, we just hid in side the building and waited for them to come. Worked out OK. Still mostly out of ammo for that sniper rifle, though.

          I've now captured Chitzena and the Drassen and Chitzena SAMs. Almost ready to move on to the next town. I'm kinda annoyed by the lack of ammo for the better guns I've found, and I also don't really like the time pressure. I need to heal up and repair, but I keep getting attacked if I sit there long enough to do that.

          Love the game overall, though. Fun + guns.

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            July 12, 2010 12:34 PM

            Aww you sorta cheezed it :D

            I did the battle in the southern sector of Drassen. Had 2 guys in the restaurant in the north ducking behind the windows. Two more high AP, grenade throwing, guys moving around the east, and two more in the middle hiding between the windows. It was tough but I managed to come out of it with very little damage to my guys.

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              July 12, 2010 12:56 PM

              I did hide in a building for a while, but with my guys in view in the windows, not inside a closed door or anything. I also had to come out and mop up at the end because some of the bad guys refused to chase me down.

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                July 12, 2010 1:24 PM

                hehe it's all good. I never actually finished the game with the 1.13 patch, got distracted by other things :(

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        July 12, 2010 1:35 PM

        I want to love this game so bad. can someone point me in the direction of a decent tutorial for newbies for jagged alliance 2. That game is sooo hard to get into.

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          July 12, 2010 1:56 PM

          I had a hard time, too, and I couldn't find any kind of tutorial material on the Bear's Pit forums. Most of the people there are longtime regulars and know the game like the back of their hands, so all the conversation is about the latest mods and whatnot. I really wanted something that just laid out "here's what you do for the first few game days," and I couldn't find it.

          I am starting to figure it out, but it's by trial and error, which I think was expected in games of that era, but I don't really have time for it now. I'd rather get told what the "correct" way to play is, then work from there, so I don't have to struggle through the learning phase.

          All that having been said, I find the gameplay really rewarding. I'm playing with the 1.13 fan patch/mod, so I have no idea what the vanilla game was like, but I love the tactical combat and the steady progress of getting more and better equipment for your guys. I find the strategic metagame a little tedious at times, but I think I probably like it more as I get better at the game.

          If you like tactical turn-based games, I highly recommend putting in the effort. There aren't a lot of these games to choose from and this one has been lovingly taken care of by the fans.

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            July 12, 2010 2:02 PM

            I definitely do not recommend playing 1.13 if you're new to the game, it really makes it much more difficult.

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              July 12, 2010 2:56 PM

              Meh, I'm well into it now and doing OK on the Experienced difficulty. I turned on "enemies drop all equipment" which makes the game easier, but I enjoy it. My only regret is I wish I had bumped Bobby Ray's selection up to "Great" (#2) instead of leaving it on Normal. I don't want to have access to the entire catalog at the very beginning, but not being able to buy attachments or ammo for the guns I have looted is just annoying.

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      July 12, 2010 8:49 AM

      Go home and play Chrome some more. These later missions are pretty awesome :D

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      July 12, 2010 8:53 AM

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        July 12, 2010 8:56 AM

        I want to buy a new graphics card just so I can play that on my pc :(

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      July 12, 2010 8:53 AM

      Get a job and stop playing video games

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      July 12, 2010 9:11 AM

      I wanted to stay in bed :(

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      July 12, 2010 9:19 AM

      finally got fully into RDR... looking forward to getting back to it.

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      July 12, 2010 9:39 AM

      track down this food cart http://bbqkalbi.com/ and stuff my face

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      July 12, 2010 10:03 AM

      I'd like to take my atv to a remote vista, kick back at not have to hear any cars, phones,or people. That's the only way ill get through the last lvls of trauma surgeon.

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      July 12, 2010 10:11 AM

      Dragon Age. I finally started it (owned since launch day) and its AWESOME. I played the first part as a mage and hated it, and rerolled as a dwarven Fighter asshole and its great.

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      July 12, 2010 11:39 AM

      Go home and grind more gang hideouts in Read Dead Redemption. Level 33, only about 200,000 more XP to go.

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      July 12, 2010 12:02 PM

      acquire currency to appease the vaglords and squawkers

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      July 12, 2010 12:14 PM

      Get some new clothes for my Vegas trip.

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      July 12, 2010 12:21 PM

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      July 12, 2010 12:24 PM

      Go home and continue my nth play through of Unreal.

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      July 12, 2010 12:33 PM

      i want to be a billionaire.

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      July 12, 2010 12:36 PM

      I want to beat ME2 and Batman AA before RDR and Heavy Rain that I bought off shackers arrive in the mail.

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      July 12, 2010 12:42 PM

      I want to play Diablo 3.

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      July 12, 2010 12:58 PM

      - Get FF14 beta installed and ready for tomorrow.
      - Play SC2 w/friends.
      - Launch peegs (shotput motion.)
      - Crash.

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      July 12, 2010 1:14 PM

      Quit my fucking job

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        July 12, 2010 1:16 PM

        Would you get bored if you quit your job?

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          July 12, 2010 2:40 PM

          I'm not afraid of being bored, I'm afraid of having no money

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      July 12, 2010 1:19 PM

      get home and keep playing Uncharted. Fun game.

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      July 12, 2010 1:49 PM

      Nap. A lot.

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      July 12, 2010 1:52 PM

      I am working from home. But after work I want to play King's Bounty and Borderlands.

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      July 12, 2010 2:04 PM

      Fuck on the floor and break shit.

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      July 12, 2010 2:06 PM

      Get back to playing Psychonauts. Bought it for $2 during a steam sale last year and finally getting around to playing it!

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      July 12, 2010 2:11 PM

      I want to go home and play God of War 3 because I love those games and wish to see what the next ridiculous murder of a deity will entail.

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