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• Server Renders! MercFox1 Bird's Eye View: http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/mc/render.png Angled: http:// : Dong Patrol
• Guides and Utilities - Oizomapper! Map your single player or multiplayer levels! By mroizo40 http://w : Dong Patrol
• Well fast sir! : nwillard
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  Grats on First Post of MD! : EricZBA
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    And 2 days in a row without a major fuckup, wait, what edition is this? Oh Dong :( : dnagenome
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      The edition title is deliberate! I tried to write something other than Slim Edition or Tiny Edition, and ... : Dong Patrol
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        When in doubt, make fun of Not¢h : EricZBA
        • Eric's even got the bug! Relax man your gonna have a coronary. And I'm sorry I ever doubted you Dong! : dnagenome
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  Dong Patrol, on the ball this morning! The date's even correct! : Arctic Fox
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    I forgot to remove the bird's eye render like foo asked me to, though! : Dong Patrol
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      baby steps : Arctic Fox
      • That would only be valid if the baby would stop falling down the stairs. : Dong Patrol
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  Well, the stats page just proved itself useful (http://216.139.192.52/~djr/mc/stats/) Take a look at D... : foo
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    client-side hacking lol : Shadowdane
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      Yep. : foo
      • Check your email for what he's been up to ;) : Arctic Fox
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    False alarm, he's legit. He's in the builders group. Stats page must get confused when a user logs in a... : foo
    • More like Banned0ne amirite? : Goblin au
    • Yeah he just got auth'd yesterday and I gave him access to all my goods : Mr.Johnson
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      Speaking of false alarms, did I (Minecraft name is ElucidoVia) get banned from MercFox1, for some reason?... : RaptorII
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        VIvid probably banned you because you made a comment about his pants or something. : EricZBA
        • Ah ha! Well, at least I now know. ¬¬ : RaptorII
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          Yeah, probably. I don't even remember raptorll. : Vividvoid
          • Until I started reading daily, (I blame the Minecraft threads) I pretty much just lurked, so that explain... : RaptorII
          • I thought I am the only one who ever gets banned? : Crabs Jarrard
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    stats are empty here :( must be ie6 i guess : ass-street
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      yah doesn't work in IE7 either : Shadowdane
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        no dice in IE5 either : indosauros
        • IE2 = fail : Arctic Fox
  • Doest he post in mc threads all the time? I think you caught a false positive. : anhero
  • Main thing I've been using it for is to check if someone who wants build access is actually in the server... : Arctic Fox
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    Mamiya walks around a lot : MurrayTheSkull
    • the stuff I work on is widespread : MamiyaOtaru
• Told you guys it was going to create a massive amount of lag :( : foo
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  I got a text message from Bechard last night saying my treefort is ablaze. Man was he right.. :( ... : Mr.Johnson
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    I just restored it. Get rid of all lava in the area ASAP. I think that little lava flow down by the por... : foo
    • Wow thanks foo, thats awesome.. I'll fix it up. Glad it wasnt from someone trollin me. : Mr.Johnson
  • dang :( that's a massive blaze : ass-street
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  Notch has made his office Spotify playlist publicly editable: http://open.spotify.com/user/notch/playl... : Zek
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    Fill it with Anal Cunt : foo
    • I think I need some Anal Cunt in my life. I'm getting lonely. : Crabs Jarrard
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  It's Wesnesday morning here. It's mid week. Where's my early-this-week update? : Goblin au
  • Wesdnesday I'm almost as good as Dong Patrol : Goblin au
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    http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1651090757/sickness-sprint-and-speakers : ass-street
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      notch, was sick and playing FO:NV. : ass-street
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        GG Not¢h!11!!!111! : MercFox1
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          he's got money disease!!! :O : ass-street
          • aka deadly green boner : ass-street
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      UPDATE - tried to do a Minecraft update today, and it turns out I didn’t bring the keystore with t... : OnAPaleHorse
      • fingers crossed : ass-street
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        http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1659195746/gah-the-update-is-coming-tomorrow-because-im-silly JESUS CHRIS... : EricZBA
        • Holy shit its real! : YerMothah
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          if this works correctly I will come back for this. sounds great : kainen1
          • Ditto, but I doubt it will work correctly. : Begawkiness
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        So fucking drive home and get it, asshole. : foo
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          Not¢h is too rich for common sense : EricZBA
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            BTW I'm kidding. I'm sure he has to take 4 trains or some bullshit to get home and probably takes hours. ... : EricZBA
            • I don't know where their office is located but he lives about 15 minutes outside downtown Stockholm (wher... : GreatGooglyMoogly
        • he's too busy drawing cocks on little slips of paper and tacking it up on their new corkboard. : ass-street
        • He doesn't even have to drive. Their office can't be more than 20 minutes from his home by metro. : GreatGooglyMoogly
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          ^ totaly uncalled for. What is wrong with you? :| : vx2o
          • foo is at his breaking point. : EricZBA
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          he tried to take a portal back but it just made him a second house : GloriousCow
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            badum-tsshhhhhh : uebersoldat
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              did you just give me a rimshot-job? : GloriousCow
              • http://instantrimshot.com/classic/?sound=rimshot : Rotten Deadite
              • I'll give you a rimshotjob for five bucks : Hemtroll
          • hehehe : Rotten Deadite
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        On the plus side he possibly can spend today actually testing his update for once. : kaddar0
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          He cant do that because he cant push it out to his beta testers today. : EricZBA
          • this post is full of irony and win ! : rookieone
          • I had to lol this one : dnagenome
          • *cough* alpha testers *cough* : silent prophet
      • no worries, i'll be playing wow anyway : Zek
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        wow...less than 24 hours away from MONSTERS OTHER PLAYERS AND PERSONAL DAMAGE - sweet! and don't minecart... : lukej1337
        • He said terrain-generation bug with minecart travel was fixed. : Afterglow
        • Kiss half of the stuff on merc's server good bye. : silent prophet
      • translation: i'm still working on it : yAak
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        so, who's running the fresh new server? : Clay
        • apparently no one :( : ass-street
        • I could possibly organise one, but it would be hosted in Australia and we have backwards internet. : Sebish
      • Huh. Kinda excited. : Nixx2004
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        You know, I really don't get the people who defend notches ways. It bothers me. He's made a lot of money ... : phipple
        • BUT IT'S ONLY ALPHA PHIPPLE I agree, the man has zero PR or business savvy : Arctic Fox
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          News flash: every game development company makes retarded mistakes. Most of them just won't ever tell you... : Zek
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            No shit, this is what he should have done instead: "Patch coming tomorrow people! Just doing some last... : Arctic Fox
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              no, people would know that's bullshit because of the last part : Herman Toothrot
              • Doesn't mean it's not a better idea from a PR standpoint! : Arctic Fox
            • Agreed. Don't get me wrong, I like honesty. But if I were in his position I'd go get the damned key or wh... : phipple
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              I guess I'm in the minority here but I actually enjoy his honesty. It might cause a lot of fuss in the c... : Gwyndion
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                My option could be honest too (it's what he should be doing today, dammit) : Arctic Fox
                • Maybe I'm influenced by the fact that I have a job interview tomorrow and it's all I've been focusing my ... : Gwyndion
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          I pretty much agree with this, it almost seems like this weird tease and show off of how he can do what h... : kainen1
          • or maybe he just thought it was a silly mistake and he'll fix it tomorrow and holy shit it's one day so g... : Herman Toothrot
        • Heaven forbid he have a life outside of Minecraft!!! He should be coding 24/7/365! Even when he is too si... : cyclonebee
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          On one hand, some people's expectations are absurd. On the other hand, its "the internet" and everything... : yAak
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            Agreed. But in this small case, go get the damn keys man :) : phipple
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              LOL yes, agreed. Though, I suspect (read: HOPE) he is taking the opportunity to test more. : yAak
              • Not a bad notion. So maybe it's a good thing :) : phipple
      • While this is very interesting and good news... I have a small bit of fear growing that suddenly groups o... : Gwyndion
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  MercFox1 Attention Grabbing Text Decision time, friends. No discussion, just vote. http://spreadsh... : foo
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    If you guys do start fresh, I'd appreciate a dl of the world. I'd still like to show it to some friends a... : Fenring42
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      If a full reset is what's voted, and no one else wants to run the world as a public server for the Shack,... : foo
      • Ah, cool. : Fenring42
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        I will take it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VhkPJM7WEQ&t=5m4s I will take the Ring to Mordor. : EricZBA
        • Oh Eric, I voted, and not weirdly like you! : dnagenome
    • I also would like a copy of the world if we are just going to blow it away! : Sebish
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    You're missing an option, I think. How about leaving as is or moving spawn, with the possibility of a : Nixx2004
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      There is of course the possibility of a reset in future, this is only the decision for right now. : Arctic Fox
      • OK, voted. : Nixx2004
  • Voted. : sigpro
  • This just might get me back into this game. : cyclonebee
  • voted : AMikaboshi
  • I have an addition to a current option. Leave the world as is, change the spawn, and have the old world b... : phipple
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    vote for full reset or DIE!!!! : ass-street
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      Personally I think a full reset is pointless until the economy gets sorted out, but I do see that splitti... : Arctic Fox
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        are you talking about duping? : ass-street
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          Yeps, things like obsidian, diamond, and so on lose all value when you can just produce them infinitely : Arctic Fox
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            i see your point but i still think it will be more fun (given that reappearing blocks and other non-sense... : ass-street
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              OK, but some of us ARE attached? It's not all you. : The Wilhelm Scream
              • It's ass-street, it is all him : Arctic Fox
              • Next time I'll make sure to keep you in mind when forming an opinion. sheesh : ass-street
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          There's a hey0 mod that supposedly solves it : foo
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            If it's the one we discussed previously, it doesn't solve all forms of duping, and the ones it do solve a... : Arctic Fox
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              There's a new one that scans peoples inventories and you can ban them or something like that : foo
              • At least I thought there was, not seeing it now : foo
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            oh snap : ass-street
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              Now read Arctic's post right above yours. : The Wilhelm Scream
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                now read foo's post right below that : ass-street
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                  now look at your man : Hemtroll
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                    now back at me : ass-street
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                      THIS THREAD IS NOW DIAMONDS! : MurrayTheSkull
                      • I'm on a pig. : Rotten Deadite
                    • I'm pretty sure the mods are aware of many of the current dupers, though. It's obvious many times, and no... : The Wilhelm Scream
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        So is duping gonna be fixed with the patch? What's to stop people from duping again? : The Wilhelm Scream
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          No, and that's my point : Arctic Fox
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            That's my concern. If duping was impossible I'd be for a full reset. But I came into Mercfox surrounded b... : The Wilhelm Scream
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              Also, if it's PVP, will damaging each other's structures still be off-limits? : The Wilhelm Scream
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                i'm still waiting for NerfBlox2 to answer this question. : ass-street
                • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24599282 : Arctic Fox
      • I agree entirely about the economy. Duping ruins the game. : spyrext
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    Voted, but I think doing anything until beta, or at least until duping is fixed is pointless because it w... : SolrFlare
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      I think the purpose here is simply to offer a fresh start to those that want it. Obviously we can't and w... : Hemtroll
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        plus it offers up the neat "visiting ruins of an old civilization" choice : MurrayTheSkull
        • I have a small surprise that I think I'm going to open up just in case anyone finds it in the old world : Hemtroll
      • What exactly is a "fresh start" though? Where I'm working now I don't see anyone unless they port out to ... : The Wilhelm Scream
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    why are other structures fair game with option 1? I mean why are we sanctioning griefing now? I can't v... : MamiyaOtaru
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      I don't think the server is going to go away if we go the reset route. EricZBA has expressed interest in ... : Arctic Fox
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        yeah that's great, if you go the reset route and he has an awesome server and can keep it from crashing a... : MamiyaOtaru
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          I agree. EricZBA would be a horrible server admin. Fuck that guy. :P : EricZBA
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            hey I'd play on it. I'd just prefer to have a local copy of a couple things I've made. That'd free me u... : MamiyaOtaru
            • I'd still love a copy just to do a big render and print it. : The Wilhelm Scream
          • You would! : dnagenome
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      I agree that structures should not be fair game - why bother building anything cool? : The Wilhelm Scream
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        I think that was poorly worded. Discussion on the mod board seems to be revolving around establishing 'ci... : Arctic Fox
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          That's definitely more interesting. Though it'll be a problem with city-to-city transport systems. : The Wilhelm Scream
          • Essentially the problem is that we want mobs to be in and we don't want to restrict people too much but w... : Hemtroll
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      It looks like the server is going full PvP one way or another, this is just a vote on what to do with the... : Zek
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        PvE all over, PvP in places I think is the plan. It won't be anarchy, but pretty much all of the mods wan... : Arctic Fox
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          Now I wanna change my vote :( Can't we clarify what things are gonna be and recount? : The Wilhelm Scream
          • SM me what you want the vote to be, and I'll change it : foo
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          Personally I'm all for a full reset but it should be held off until beta. If we do it now people won't wa... : Zek
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            This is my opinion too. : Arctic Fox
            • although that said, this would be, what, the 5th reset of Merc1? heh : Arctic Fox
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      My fault. Bad choice of words. I'm not saying "destroy everyones work". I really doubt anyone would do... : foo
      • I guess if we reset, we reset. Though if we do, my predictions: squabbles/rushes for land rights near the... : The Wilhelm Scream
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    foo: if i revote, does it change my vote? (I hope?) I mis-voted. : yAak
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      Sm me and ill change it : foo
      • thanks and sorry about the hassle. new shit came to light! : yAak
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    So wait.. you guys that are against a reset, do you want mobs but no pvp? Or no mobs at all? : foo
    • I vote for Mobs with no PVP, a PvE server would be nice... co-op style.. : Sebish
    • notch said PvP on/off wasn't an option yet right? You can either have full damage or no damage? : Hemtroll
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      I want to see how it works with everything, monsters and PVP. : Nixx2004
      • Right but I'm just talking about the current world : foo
    • I want everything, but no reset. We can build a gladiatorial arena and watch people fight each other. : BlackCat9
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      Who would actually want to PvP in this game? : pancake humper
      • people who have never heard of quake, unreal tournament, diablo etc etc : MamiyaOtaru
      • morfus and everyone on his server? : Arctic Fox
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        I think it would be fun if there were shields and blocking mechanics, like Oblivion. : BlackCat9
        • At this point I think we should aim slightly lower. Let's say it would be fun if damage worked 100% on re... : Hemtroll
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        It could be great if implemented properly. : datoo
        • Yeah, but you're thinking of the months-in-advance version of PvP, not how it will be when released tomor... : Arctic Fox
    • yah PvE would be ideal... dunno if that will be even possible at least right at release. : Shadowdane
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      I need more discussion on this. You guys that want to keep the current world, do you want PVE or no mobs... : foo
      • I'd like P vs E, but don't see the point of pvp. : The Wilhelm Scream
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        If it's an option I personally am all for PvE : Hemtroll
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          Perhaps we could just agree on consensual pvp? Like designated dual/battlegrounds? : The Wilhelm Scream
          • It's all in the technical issues really. Last I heard was that there would be no PvP flag at release so y... : Hemtroll
          • This is what I want. Like, I could change the chat color for anyone willing to be available to PVP at an... : foo
          • That's called morfus' server. Without some significant mod action you're not going to see optional PvP wi... : Arctic Fox
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        no mobs at all. it seems clear to me that your server should be the builder server; it's where all the i... : electroly
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          Well... There's a reason I'm asking all this I'm debating on leaving the current server alone, and se... : foo
          • i think that would be a great solution : electroly
          • I like this solution. I'll even help admin/mod/whatever it. : Clay
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          Since I know that Mamiya probably won't see this, he would vote the same way as electroly would : Arctic Fox
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            with how things are currently, yeah. PvE isn't what I am excited about either, but I'd find it far prefe... : MamiyaOtaru
            • and yeah, my personal pref would be what electroly says. I'm aware I'm in a minority though. Or is it a... : MamiyaOtaru
        • I think those constructions are only made greater when done in the face of adversity. PvP does seem incre... : dooberzoo
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        I'm perfectly fine with mobs. I just don't see the point with PvP since there is no real system in place... : SolrFlare
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          What if we started new, with a line drawn in the sand (huge wall dividing east from west). East is PVE, ... : foo
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            There you go! : Hemtroll
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              Sometimes the simple things are the best things : foo
              • the big people at my school said I was simple, that's good right? : Hemtroll
              • Heh, That would work, it's not like I'd even *mind* PvP being on. I just think it's pretty pointless as ... : SolrFlare
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            i would be curious to see how many people go west after the first day or two : MamiyaOtaru
            • This at least gives people the option. If you're not in a PVP mood, just stay at your house in the east.... : foo
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            I just vote that (assuming that Notch gives us the option) we make Merc1 PvE only. Anyone who wants a PvP... : Arctic Fox
            • I guess it would be Merc2, I should say, if it's the reboot server. Or foo1 :P : Arctic Fox
      • PEE VEE PEE : MercFox1
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    I don't see why a reset would be necessary for this. People can spawn into the safety of the areas that h... : BlackCat9
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      They don't want their structures to be damaged : foo
      • By monsters? That's trivial damage and easy to rebuild. Just make more lights or post guards by city wall... : BlackCat9
    • I think it's more a question of economy? : spyrext
• Bah, I want to blow shit up and still can't connect to Haxim's server :P : phipple
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  When you kill a player, a player corpse block should drop so you could make a chair out of corpses. : mroizo40
  • hahaha, awesome! : phipple
  • I want to make armor out of them. : Fenring42
  • Skulls for the skull throne! : Rotten Deadite
  • brilliant! : uebersoldat
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    That's actually a great idea... but it would make me a little bit paranoid if I'm peacefully building a p... : Gwyndion
    • He's just mining players : mroizo40
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  Shadowdane's Server -- FYI with the talk of a reset on Mercfox's server, I'm not resetting the world is o... : Shadowdane
  • By the weekend there should be a railway available from spawn to the east side of the map that has been u... : Afterglow
  • I hope tomorrows update fixes the game to a state where I would want to continue again :( : pancake humper
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  Cuteh: http://holaye.deviantart.com/art/Minecraft-Pig-187143531?q=+sort%3Atime+minecraft&qo=14 : vx2o
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    Fucking LOL!!!!!!!!! http://lurvid.deviantart.com/art/Health-Update-187186959?q=+sort%3Atime+minecraft... : EricZBA
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      Damn, I guess I'm in the minority here that actually got his $13 worth from this alpha version game. :\ : uebersoldat
      • I'd say you're definitely not. The people whose lifes depend on Minecraft are just VERY vocal. : vx2o
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  Love this music video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIhs8_m5qPc&fmt=22 : vx2o
  • that was great : foo
  • That was cute :D : EricZBA
  • This is awesome. : VectorJKL
  • Too cute. : Nixx2004
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    I think it would be sweet to have preset pve zones where cities and small outposts could be built. As fo... : Nighteyes
    • Fuck misreply! : Nighteyes
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  As much as I hate all this server wipe talk, I gladly welcome back the massive daily Minecraft Thread :D : EricZBA
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    So to confirm, if we reset, you'll take the world files and host a 'no mobs, build only' server? : Arctic Fox
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      Correct. I am currently researching pricing on server co-location costs. : EricZBA
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        What a gentleman you are : Arctic Fox
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          I keep telling the pro-wipe crowd to go rent a server if they want their own fresh start. I figured I'd ... : EricZBA
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            Dude, if our servers weren't so old, might have been able to do, but space is at a premium already, would... : dnagenome
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              Spare 2U in your server racks! Actually, I have a brand new APC Rack that I can donate : EricZBA
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                Dude, 12 people here, what racks? : dnagenome
                • Sounds like you need an IT guy! Here is my resume: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5735537/EricZBA%20Resume%20201... : EricZBA
      • I could possibly also offer up something if Eric cannot organise it. : Sebish
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    I can hardly even imagine the size these things will get to if clan support and competitive modes are add... : Dong Patrol
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      I've got the hardware + disk space. My only problem is bandwidth. The connection I have available for the... : EricZBA
      • We need the server to be in alaska, so we can lag dupe easier! : dnagenome
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        Its possible you could get a virtual server of some sort with the required bandwidth and power for less t... : NexusOne
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          Yup. Looking into that too : EricZBA
          • Whats required for this? I may have some capacity laying around, can discuss the possibility of putting ... : wbechard
    • yah at some point we'd have to wipe or limit exploration... I think it is just silly to expect this map ... : Shadowdane
• Welcome back Massive Minecraft Threads : MercFox1
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  doors seem broken somehow. open wood door, it closes itself and I can never walk through. also got a bu... : MamiyaOtaru
  • Same... : The Wilhelm Scream
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    I've seen the button thing happening, my doors have been working fine so far though. I think it's some q... : SolrFlare
    • also blocks destroyed count on the stats page not rising : MamiyaOtaru
  • levers busted too. levers and buttons: broke. pressure plates: fine : MamiyaOtaru
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  can someone please give werkzo build rights? whats the deal i thought he was already in : kabex
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    is he online right now? : Hemtroll
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      He's not http://216.139.192.52/~djr/mc/stats/ : Arctic Fox
      • I don't know everyone's ingame name, I have to ask! : Hemtroll
  • every time he has asked me he hasn't been in the server. He needs to be in there for it to work. : Arctic Fox
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  Only thing I cant find is the shacktag for font size..... I am not talking sample tags. : Arcath
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    Go play at http://rock_elf.shackspace.com/tags/index.html, it's pretty easy to figure out hint: nested : Arctic Fox
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      I figured it out. :P : Arcath
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        protip: don't nest more than 8 tags, that way lies shacktaggery : Arctic Fox
        • Just coping the master. : Arcath
• The legend of Penis Island will never die. : _jon
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  Was told to post in here asking for build permission, i am a friend of Mr. Johnson and Bechard. they tol... : SgtEddieWinslow
  • Hes legit! : Mr.Johnson
• I think it would be sweet to have preset pve zones where cities and small outposts could be built. As for... : Nighteyes
• I think it would be so fun to have a battle server. With a couple of warring factions, with designated se... : phipple

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• I've never seen Nicholas Cage lose his shit like this before. : gmd
• this is awesome : papaskot
• 1:43 is definitely my favorites :D : Korban
• 4 minutes of why i hate nicolas cage! : FrayLo
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  had to close my eyes at the bees : Just A Girl
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    not the bees! : Korban
    • They're in my eyes! My eyes! Aaaaauuuuughgghghhh aauaugughghghghghghgghhghhhhhh : deject
• i lose my own shit right at the 1:23 mark. hahahaah. : PlanetPerfecto
• Awesome, I liked it. : funnynamehere
• The best. : Albemuth
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  and yet, it all seems half hearted like the rest of his acting : deKaf
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    He was great as Big Daddy in Kick-Ass, definitely did not phone that one in : dognose
    • That was the role Nick Cage was born to play. : ConfusedUs
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      He was ok in that. I think he was best in Con Air and Raising Arizona : deKaf
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        Raising Arizona easily is his best IMO. : Begawkiness
        • I really liked him in Bringing out the Dead. : Lukiopimp
• i always laugh at the wickerman shit. such a bad movie but those scenes are hilarious : dantastic
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  Vampire's Kiss rules : rgoer
  • I couldn't stop watching it when I stumbled on it. I tried, but I couldn't. :( : graah
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  Bad Lieutenant, Nic Cage does bad things to an old lady http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYJOAW7r03s best ... : kokujin
  • That movie was fucking bananas. : Rauol Duke
• Bless the bees. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D5aLR-8c11ms&start1=&video2=http:... : omnova
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  I like Nicholas Cage in a lot of movies but he seems to have picked some shitty roles recently. : kgargs
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    define recently. lol : PlanetPerfecto
    • Recently in the geological scale. : Rehevkor
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    He went on an insane spending spree, is deep in debt, and needs money so he's willing to be in almost any... : LilCrypto
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      did you hear he bought a pyramid? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/16/nicolas-cage-buys-pyramid_n_54... : dirge23
      • lol : Megara9
      • I love his brand of crazy! : LilCrypto
      • awesome : llamameat
    • $14M in back taxes : mwasher
  • Bad Lieutenant was fun. Especially because of Cages insanity. : minigomp
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  damn, some hammy acting in that joint : EvilDolemite
  • His is the worst kind of "scenery chewing" acting, because it's so bad that it completely pulls you out o... : Bold
• That was awesome : boarder2
• He's a weird dude : MaxPete82
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  He's been in a lot of really bad movies. : trove
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    He is the bad movie. : K1Bond007
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      When he's on, he can be a pretty good actor. : Lone Swordsman
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        Never happened during last decade. : Kub666
        • Adaptation : the if
        • Kick-Ass : the archvile
        • Bad Lieutenant was pretty decent as well. He's in A LOT of crap, but I think he could do great stuff : tcs
        • face/OFF : skryte
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  The Weather Man was his best movie! : Celery14
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    I haven't seen it but I really like Raising Arizona and Birdy. : vx2o
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      Wild At Heart : dirge23
      • I really liked him in Bad Lieutenant POCNO : jvox
  • yeah. its actually a good movie! : thechunder
  • face/off, kick-ass : skelom
• haha sweet, but Stanley Goodspeed? :( : brewsterdog
• ahahahahaha it's Ari Gold : Scotty22
• Deadfall looks like a strange movie. : DonkeyPopsicle
• Buh hoo...buh hoo! : Clarkek
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  Weatherman is one of my favorite movies *ducks* : Delaric
  • its an oddly paced movie but its good and he nails his part. : Hoax
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  Needs more Castor Troy from Face Off. : c_man_tmt
  • Castor can eat a peach for hours. : HockeyJohnston
• Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh fuuuuuuuuuckinn yaaaaaaaaaaaa! ROFL : HL3dsx
• you asses forgot adaptation, one of my favorite movies : llamameat
• I feel like nobody here has noted how amazing it is when he cries partway through and it's actually just ... : sgtsanity
• my favourite is still the "I have a Volvo" speech from The Rock. slow burn! : Postal
• holy crap. : mwasher
• intense : Mmmmmoo

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  God damn it : rosewood
  • unusual doesn't begin to describe you rosey : Dravenport
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  double tap the home button - its on the fast app switch bar just like on the iphones : multisync
  • Next ti e you see steve jobs tell him to go fuck himself : rosewood
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    wait, there's rotation lock on the iphone? I'm not seeing it in the fast app switch?? OMG I WANT THIS SO ... : gakera
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      OMG IT'S TO THE LEFT HOLY FUCK WHY DID I NOT KNOW THIS : gakera
      • rosewood, multisync, I hold both of you personally responsible for my ignorance of this amazing feature. : gakera
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        Wtfffffff?????!?!?!?!??!? : Goto10
        • I did not know that, dude. : Goto10
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      just double tap home, scroll to the left where the ipod controls are. tap the icon to lock/unlock : multisync
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        yea, instead of just flicking a physical switch that was put there for a reason... : dignan
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          we're talking about the phone now, not the ipad : multisync
          • Just think about it, here I've been cursing this thing, thinking this was impossible and then you come al... : gakera
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        is double tap new also? i double tap home and it takes me to the search... prob not going to run the up... : dignan
        • That was added in 3.0. : BlackCat9
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    holy god damn chicken fuck! Why did I never notice that before. I've been fighting ebooks every night w... : mrwolf710
    • God dammit. I swear, Apple makes the most obfuscated UI in the history of man. : DarkWolf5
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  you can still lock it rosewood. Its in the settings somewhere. : JohnnyRey
  • but I totally agree, it was a retarded change. : JohnnyRey
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  I'm pulling an abrasion and refusing to update. : LoioshDwaggie
  • I want multitasking and that is quite nice : rosewood
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  they are getting rid of it for 2nd gen? its still on the ipads i've seen : dignan
  • they changed the functionality of the switch : zerog83
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    It is now a mute switch. Holding down on the volume is also a mute switch. 4 buttons and 2 do the same th... : rosewood
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      whoa, so the lock button doesn't lock the ipad now... wtf are they thinking, seriously!? : dignan
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        yes, the lock button locks the iPad. there's a separate switch, like on the iphone, that functioned as an... : zerog83
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          i have an ipad right here. theres a volume switch, a toggle button (that locks rotation) and a home butt... : dignan
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            The toggle button is now a mute button. : pyrogen
            • The toggle button is now diamonds. : BlackCat9
          • the toggle button that locks rotation. it now toggles mute. and the button on the very top of the dev... : zerog83
    • yea, holding volume down turns off volume really quick, i actually don't like that feature... : dignan
    • A mute switch, why? So can you don't distrub people with the phone calls it doesn't handle? : flooq
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  I dont have ipad, but I do have iphone. How it is so different using an ipad. I use the mute switch and I... : Slowtreme
  • its more the part of taking away something. the ipad had a button that forced the rotation lock. now it d... : Maarten Goldstein
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    tilting just a bit rotates the screen, it can be quite annoying : dignan
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      tilting the screen on iphone rotates it too, but it doesn't happen very often unless I want to : Slowtreme
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        I have to jiggle my iphone before it rotates, but the ipad can go crazy from what i've seen. Would be ann... : Chipwarrior
        • I guess I didnt think about setting it down. I've never tried to use it like that, the back is round, you... : Slowtreme
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        I never use rotation lock on my iphone either. IPad is different though. I use rotation lock constantly b... : noxiousgg
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          so lock it? They only time I use landscape is for games, and it forces landscape even if it's locked : Slowtreme
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            I do. Your posts are dismissive of the need for it.. I was merely pointing out that your needs != the nee... : noxiousgg
            • it just seems odd, but I've admitted that I don't own an ipad personally. My time using them has been lim... : Slowtreme
  • When heavily reading books, and given the iPad's size, without screen rotation lock it's easy for the tex... : SolrFlare
• I'm with you. I hate the change. : pyrogen
• I like the new system - also the double-click to brightness control is brilliant. : lordlobo
• Holding down the volume button still mutes it. It sucks >:( : dodob
• I think it's much better now. I never locked rotation and didn't like the hold-down-to-mute thing, so ...... : jcupitt
• I agree, a hardware screen lock is much more useful than a mute switch : Serpico74
• Been using it for months and it doesn't bother me too much. I guess I'd rather have the switch lock orien... : BlackCat9
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  You would think they'd give you the choice between muting or rotation lock functionality in the preferenc... : Goblin au
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    I expect the reasoning was because they want the soft lock to be consistent across 4.2 devices so that us... : BlackCat9
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      Hardware over software IMO. Thanks for your post. I had not heard any sound reasoning for the change and... : rosewood
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        For that matter if I mute it and go to the volume slider you end in that same what do you expect conundru... : rosewood
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          Not quite. The switch mutes system sounds, like typing, but the volume still independently controls audio... : BlackCat9
          • That is stupid. I see it is muted but not : rosewood
  • you'll use it how we tell you to! Im surpised they even let people purchase and own the hardware. : dignan
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    Choice lol : abrasion
    • The irony here doesn't escape me :) : Goblin au
  • Giving a choice ... on a device that is made to control the behaviour of the consumer. Hm ! : Lukiopimp
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  God who gives a shit, really? Do you usually use your ipad offroading? I don't understand why people ha... : kainen1
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    Just shacking from the small office and it rotates on me when I don't want it to : rosewood
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      I'm just trying to figure out how that happens. I mean I have a malware case that gives a good base with... : kainen1
      • It switches when laid flat on a desk or when I'm using it in bed all the damn time. It is definitely anno... : LilCrypto
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    it doesn't like being laid flat on a bed : dignan
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      Neither does your mother, but there's still a line of people out the door. : BlackCat9
      • HI OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *high five* : repeat2k
      • ohhhh sheeit : dignan
  • Lol, same here. : virus
  • i give a shit kainen! I give a shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : FrayLo
  • Mine has been in landscape since I bought it. : BouillonCubes
  • I have my iPhone permanently locked. It's a pain when it switches orientations on me. : crummynz
  • You are familiar with rosewood's uncontrollable rageaholic outbursts to mundane daily events, correct? : Super Sparker
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  no idea what you're talking about since i don't use rotation lock but this thing about printing coming to... : [fry]
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    safari find-in-page is a hack : boring gegtik
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      I thought apple was all about obvious UI : boring gegtik
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        Click Google to find words on this page : boring gegtik
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          dude i am just getting back to the internet in the last half hour or so after three days of being outdoor... : [fry]
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            I was being sincere about find in page. Printing was nerfed there are like 5 printers on planet earth tha... : boring gegtik
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              AirPrint makes it simple to print email, photos, web pages, and documents right from your iPhone, iPad, o : [fry]
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                i was excited for two months about this update because the ONLY thing we ever have to turn our old laptop... : [fry]
                • it's something that the printer has to support too. : mindfk
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                Yeah, it was originally pushed as being able to print to wifi-enabled printers, no mention of sharing. : nakedsavage
                • my printer is wifi-enabled. it's an HP LaserJet Pro P1102. i'm mad!!! : [fry]
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          I'm just glad this feature finally exists. They could change the text to Search, but for most users, I do... : BlackCat9
          • It's nice that it exists, but I had to look up on the internet how to use it. it's certainly not obvious.... : boring gegtik
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    where can I find this printing stuff? : Slowtreme
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      you won't since you have to either be running a mac with a shared printer (huh) or have one of about ten ... : [fry]
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        Someone needs to try this: http://jaxov.com/2010/11/how-to-enable-airprint-service-on-windows/ : Warlock
        • interesting. might try that tonight. : [fry]
        • ^^^^^^^^^THIS TOTALLY WORKS FUCK YEAH^^^^^^^^^ : silaslang
        • Nice ! : Lukiopimp
      • i have access to one actually Oh I see a print option now in the email. thats cool. : Slowtreme
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  Seriously, Can Apple not learn to patch correctly. Why have to download the entire thing every time. : notext
  • They stole their patching code from Sony. : SlingBlaze
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    seriously, a 600 mb software update is pretty lol considering what was added for the iphone/ipod : Thomas Hace
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      I just "updated" my iPhone - it took 4 hours (yeah I did make a backup - because I like to backup my stuf... : Lukiopimp
      • rofl I have 15 gigs of shit on my phone; sync + Backup + update only took 30 min and that included the do... : Slowtreme
• I prefer software lock : BouillonCubes
• It is the dumbest fucking shit ever. It takes .02 seconds to hold the volume switch down and mute the thi... : silaslang
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  I use the rotation lock all the time. I'm not going to be installing this update anytime soon. : drodver
  • Worth it for multitasking : rosewood
  • lol : kainen1
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  Its funny that Apple has now become Microsoft and Microsoft, Apple. iTunes, iPod, stuff is a mess and... : mr.thing
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    I'd say more, Apple has become Microsoft, and Microsoft is still Microsoft. : SlingBlaze
    • nah, MS products have been awesome in the last year. : JohnnyRey
    • winmo reeks of microsoft, wp7 seems like some art design school project : threeup
• Also, no clock or timer still is just stupid : rosewood
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  No, what's really retarded is no landscape orientation lock. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I think the orientation lock covers landscape and portait, no? : JohnnyRey
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      Yes. It locks to whatever the current view is. : dmason
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        Wait. I may be a liar. A filthy, filthy liar. : dmason
        • you're not. I was trying to be nice. The orientation lock works for both. : JohnnyRey
• It really is fucking retarded. Unusually retarded. : stuka
• Its really stupid, especially given that turning the volume down for 2s mutes it instantly. : manlyman
• So much rage in this thread. I was upset over the change at first but after a week I didn't give a fuck a... : ovrlrd
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  FYI, the mute switch mutes system volume, like typing clicks, but allows you to still set the volume leve... : BlackCat9
  • Most misunderstood feature in iOS : ovrlrd
  • Thanks for the clarification. That is an incredibly stupid feature still. : rosewood
  • So it doesn't mute sound or music from apps? : Mmmmmoo
• It GREATLY pisses me off. : freakynipples69
• This is seriously a HUGE issue for people? FFS : deadhorse
• are you shitting me? I THOUGHT MY IPHONE WAS BROKEN! Rotation lock?! WTFFFF!!!!!! : scener
• I'm filing a bug report on this. If enough people do maybe they will realize their idiocy. : afrochops

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  I liked The Happening. Am I broken? : Kub666
  • yes : redfive
  • It was interesting but then fizzled. : Faluzure
  • I didn't like The Happening but it wasn't the worst thing I've seen. : Pettytheft
  • treehugger : Magus
  • Hot dog. : Gary the Llama
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    It was pure shit. : Rauol Duke
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      Literally. They literally filmed pure fecal matter. : deject
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        Pure unadulterated shit. Nobody has adulterated this shit with anything. : dirge23
        • Usually they cut the shit with some pus, but not this time. : deject
  • it was a terrible, terrible movie but it had entertaining moments : dirge23
  • Fucking trees, man. : SpaecKow
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    Fucking awful movie. At least we got drunk in the theatre. Mark Wahlberg is a terrible actor too. : MrBig0
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      he's a decent actor when he's not reading a shyamalan script opposite plastic trees and zooey deschanel : dirge23
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        He's pretty bland. He plays the same character in all his movies. I think the only time it called for him... : Godhatesfatpeople
        • yeah, i wouldn't say he's great or anything : dirge23
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          He's got the corner on the market for bland boring Southies now that Matt Damon is all intellectual and B... : trove
          • haha yeah : Godhatesfatpeople
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    The best part is when the Jeep drives straight into the telephone pole or was it a tree : pancake humper
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      accidentally hilarious. so is the old lady freakout : dirge23
      • yea, and then they went to sleep in her house with no issues. wtf? : MrBig0
    • The telephone pole WAS A TREE! OMG TWIST. : cerealSAM2
  • BE SCIENTIFIC, DOUCHEBAG : c0bra
  • CHEESE AND RICE. : magistersmax
  • You're so unbelievably broken. : Navy Spitfire
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  Christian Bale is going to win an award for that performance. That dude is awesome. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    I had trouble recognising him in the trailer. God damn that dude goes so far to make roles work. : SpaecKow
    • For some reason I kept expecting him to be John Tuturro :P : c0bra
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      He's said that he has health problems from the weight change he did between The Machinist and Batman Begi... : FlamingGimp
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        He did? I thought he was okay between those body changes for those movies. : Godhatesfatpeople
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          Apparently. Now I can't find any quote of his saying it was a lasting issue, I must've been smoking somet... : FlamingGimp
          • :P : Godhatesfatpeople
  • I agree! C Bale is awesome. : jvox
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    he's a little wooden as an actor most of the time, which I think is his main problem and why he's never b... : mikecyb
    • He doesn't seem wooden in the trailers for the fighter at all. As for Batman, well that's an action movie... : SpaecKow
    • what films have you seen him in? go watch Metroland or All the Little Animals and tell me he's wooden. I ... : PlanetPerfecto
• I loved his shirtless role in date night : Chandler55
• Holy shit the movie is based around Micky Ward? that guy is a badass, his fights with Arturo Gatti are so... : randomnull
• Lol, that is excellent = ) : pixelat3d
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  it's yet-another-boxing-movie...down and out guy fights his way to the top, either physically or emotiona... : deathofrats
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    you're so cool : RikiTiki2
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      *flips his collar* tell me something I don't already know. *walks off smugly* : deathofrats
      • You smugly stepped in dog poop. : gakera
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    It's soooo passe. *sips espresso* Why even bother with this movie. *adjusts monocle* Meanwhile, nobody wi... : Dschinghis Khan
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      At the premiere of this fine piece of film will there be canapes, pate and an assortment of the finest wi... : jimmy_legs
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        Mmm, quite. : Dschinghis Khan
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          I love spreading a fine smůg on my free-range organic cage-free flatbread crackers : jimmy_legs
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            Mmm, indeed. *re-packs tobacco pipe* : Dschinghis Khan
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              http://classytrilogy.ytmnd.com/ : Nitrium
              • Nice. : Dschinghis Khan
              • GREAT SCOTT : MercFox1
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        there's going to be spanish wine and pate? can I come? :( : mikecyb
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          also I think you are getting your pretentious things mixed up. an indie film maker wouldn't be able to a... : mikecyb
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            don't judge my tastes or I won't mail the invite : jimmy_legs
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              I'm not judging I'm just saying, but I'll shut up for wine and cheese! : mikecyb
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                and pate : jimmy_legs
                • and Hank Mardukas. : Dschinghis Khan
    • It comes with a gift certificate for a free case of Pabst. : K0LM

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• Yup. I can get behind this. : Rehevkor
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  Someone somewhere is outraged at this. : Chipwarrior
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    Well, pirates, obviously. : Rehevkor
    • I don't think Somalians even like The Witcher : Dravenport
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      Someone on Slashdot made the almost-valid comment that it might be more appropo to go after the person wh : Schnapple
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        People generally need a good reason to steal shit because of the stigmatic cloak it accompanies. If you ... : DewFuel
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          then it becomes very hard to justify stealing. lmao : Downforce
          • No, he's right. It does become hard to justify stealing. Whether or not the person pirating cares is anot... : Schnapple
          • Many, many people shoplift or steal to "stick it to the man". If the man is being reasonable and fair, t... : DewFuel
          • Steam succeeds because it makes it easier to get the game than pirating. : Crabs Jarrard
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          You're kidding right? Tons of people will steal it, trust me. Some just don't see software theft as theft... : avatar_58
          • Tonnes will, but I'm betting that there is at least some profitable number of potential consumers that be... : Chipwarrior
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            I'm not saying it won't be stolen (or copyright infringed), but the magnitude will be less than a lot of ... : DewFuel
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              Mhm. I bet the guy who developed World of Goo loved the decreased amount of pirates right? I mean he wasn... : avatar_58
              • I was about to say that Tribes 2, World of Goo, the games with no DRM protection have gotten copied just ... : handofthrawn
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              Regardless of Activision's policies, even stealing from them makes you a piece of shit thief. : ColoradoCNC
              • lol, the proverbial "you". Unless of course you're a pirate. In which case you are a piece of shit thief.... : ColoradoCNC
            • I'm not so sure about that. I think you are overanalyzing the reasoning and justifications people use to ... : AlexXdude
        • I only agree to the extent that some people have a certain sense of dignity that keeps them from pirating... : Freon
      • GOG releases are almost non-existant because they are old ass games that have been cracked and released y... : AlexXdude
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        It is apropos, though: everyone (okay, most everyone) who downloads via a torrent is also uploading the t... : Agrona
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          Yeah but in this context they were referring to the person who put the torrent on the site in the first p... : Schnapple
          • That is probably a lot less prosecutable than actually distributing the file though. : Agrona
• My Linux ISOs! : EricZBA
• Good, I'm glad to hear it. : The Grolar Bear
• More companies should do this as opposed to some companies that slam a DRM that annoys paying customers. : DM7
• Go for it dudes! : Begawkiness
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  The "WTF I DIDN'T DO IT MY SHITS UNPROTECTED" arguement makes me laugh. As if anyone actually believes th... : avatar_58
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    It is, but in general as a company you want to avoid suing, say, the grandmother whose grandson didn't kn... : Schnapple
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      Yeah, but really - other than seniors it's hard to use this defence. I mean why not just disable your pas... : avatar_58
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        It it your problem if your credit card is ripped off and used to buy something illegal? Is it your proble... : terath
        • It's not in the UK if I remember correctly. : one random winner
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          I'm aware but think about it - I'm betting most of the time it's a guilty party using an excuse : avatar_58
          • Sure that makes sense, but protecting the innocence of those who actually got screwed is a little bit mor... : Toth21
  • I have no less than four neighbouring networks with unsecured shit. During the time that we had no intern... : ieGod
• Works for me, just hope it doesn't cost them an arm and a leg to do it. : breadsticks
• I'm really, really glad to see a company finally doing intelligent anti-pirating methods. : DerHuhnTeufel
• scare tactics. and if it turns out to be real, pirates will just block the program in the windows firewal... : rtrson
• I kind of applaud this, but too bad it doesn't work that well though: this has been around for a while an... : zehh
• Fuck the pirates, they deserve everything that's coming to them. : duffman03
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  I think this is interesting, but I don't think I can support it. All it takes is one wrong accusation and... : -JLN-
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    Thing is, people are getting wrongly accused anyway, for products that have DRM out the wazoo. : master_disaster_17
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      Totally, but I don't think two wrongs make a right. As I said I'll be interested to see how it pans out, ... : -JLN-
      • They won't be going after every single case I'm sure, but I rekon there'll be plenty of pirates out there... : Chipwarrior
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  Lots of nuking going on in this thread : Volatus32x
  • The well-deserved kind in this case : Rehevkor
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  and we wonder why crysis is scaling back for consoles, thanks pirates!!! : Downforce
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    also thanks to all the people who have moved from PC gaming to Console gaming : boring gegtik
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      Thanks economy : boring gegtik
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        Thanks ants. Thants. : DM7
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          thanks zebras. i dunno, it just seems like we're thanking random things at this point : rtrson
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            look around you and you might understand the joke : Herman Toothrot
            • lol ;D : DM7
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    Dude, Xbox 360 piracy is fucking rife. : node
    • wasn't there some empirical info on MW2 on 360 and PC? speaking of which, in the digital era, why is trac... : Downforce
    • And compared to PC piracy it's still a drop in the bucket. : ColoradoCNC
    • Does anyone know the %s? For example, a game that sells 100k copies on the PC and 100k copies on the xbo... : handofthrawn
    • Which is like a pimple on the ass of PC piracy. : Pettytheft
    • lol : shirif
• I'm fine with this. : master_disaster_17
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  Leaving a wi-fi router unprotected is akin to leaving a loaded gun laying around in the open. You're (at ... : liqker
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    because wifi is totally uncrackable : harold.johnson
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      Just like a case with a lock on it. : one random winner
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        In both cases you wouldn't be held responsible if you took the very basic precautions to secure your prop... : liqker
        • this ^^^ : uebersoldat
        • That was kind of my point, but thanks for articulating! : one random winner
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          Well....actually this is interesting to me. What if you had a spare laptop and you downloaded illegal shi... : avatar_58
          • So the theory of the crime presented to the police would be someone stole it, downloaded illegal software... : classicfork
• THIS IS GOOD : vx2o
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  I already bought'd it. How is it being torrented. It's not even out until next year? : LoioshDwaggie
  • It's not, near as I can tell. This is more a warning shot at this point. : Schnapple
• Pirates kick ass, software piracy is lame though. : uebersoldat
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  I swear this kind of thing has come up before...isn't it incredibly hard to prove that someone *downloade... : Vincent Grayson
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    What does it matter? Either way it's still copyright infringement. : Rehevkor
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      My point is that last I knew what they're claiming to be doing won't work at all. If something has change... : Vincent Grayson
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        Hasn't the RIAA proven music downloads successfully? I agree though, go after the people uploading. : VectorJKL
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          I thought I remembered hearing about them trying and failing to go after downloaders, and ultimately real... : Vincent Grayson
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            They have had some high profile successes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitol_v._Thomas : Schnapple
            • she got nabbed for uploading, not downloading : MamiyaOtaru
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  I approve on principle, i disapprove on execution. By offering a DRM-Free version of the game, they're ba... : pixelat3d
  • DRM free just means I can make backups and play it without worrying about some jackass method of activati... : avatar_58
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    By offering a DRM-Free version of the game, they're basically ensuring that this WILL be pirated in some : Rehevkor
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      I agree, which is why i support DRM Free software, but by removing the boundaries you now have a situatio... : pixelat3d
      • Well, it's not like they aren't forewarning everyone. : one random winner
      • So because it's easier than people are used to to steal the game, they shouldn't be prosecuted? There's n... : Haxim
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        This isn't really the case. All it takes is one group to release a crack, and then the torrent is up on e... : noxiousgg
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          No, but your seed counts will spike like a madman when people who legitimately downloaded the game can de... : pixelat3d
          • I don't know if you download many torrents these days, but people have so much more upstream bandwidth th... : noxiousgg
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    reverting back to localized DRM is stupid. needs more online authentication with validity checks. give th... : Downforce
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      Microsoft? People steal windows all the time and get away with it : avatar_58
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        indeed, but their "DRM" is what we need to focus on. server side, internet based. I'm not claiming they ... : Downforce
        • Personally I think Steam hit it just right. It's so easy to use that you don't worry about it. Sure the g... : avatar_58
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    soo..i am confused as far as what you would propose the best solution be? Are you for strict DRM? : deathofrats
    • No, i think they made the correct choice going DRM free, i'm 100% for DRM free software. I think it's the... : pixelat3d
  • It doesn't really matter. It's the same type of thing as a bait car. Just because the keys are in it, d... : boarder2
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    Your principles are backwards. They are aiming to punish the people that actually commit the crime rathe... : twifosp
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      No, they're not. Let me create a scenario for you. Game releases, no demo, can't rent it because it's : pixelat3d
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        "I want it" isn't a good enough reason to download it. If you aren't sure whether you'll like it, move on... : avatar_58
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          While I agree, let's temper that opinion with a bit of reality. Just because it's illegal (which is even ... : pixelat3d
          • Don't steal shit. Problem solved! : ColoradoCNC
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            Just because "it happens" it's ok and we should ignore the legality of it? It's not fuzzy - downloading s... : avatar_58
            • You're killing me here. I'm not saying we should ignore it, but the laws and processes need to be more in... : pixelat3d
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        While I agree there should be demo's for every PC game, that doesn't give you the right to pirate it, eve... : one random winner
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          I'm not arguing the right/wrong of it. I'm saying the punishment and the amount of effort required is FAR... : pixelat3d
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            But you do kick them out of the store if they try them, say 'nah', and move on. : AlexW1203
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              It's more like kicking them out of the store for reading the first few pages of a magazine without buying... : MrBig0
              • What about the magazines with plastic wrap on them, so that you can't just browse them? : DianeOfTheMoon
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            You know what else is easy? Running over a pedestrian with my car. It requires almost no effort really.... : Zakko
            • Yes, without context any example can be horrible. I'm not talking about running over people, I'm talking ... : pixelat3d
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        The Witcher came with a demo. That excuse is gone. : LoioshDwaggie
        • For the Witcher 2? : pixelat3d
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        So, you're upset that they're suing someone that has done something that's illegal? You don't have a r... : Danny5225
        • I'm upset the at the amount of damage they're causing for such an ultimately inconsequential thing, regar... : pixelat3d
        • Interesting that you use the terms "suing" and "illegal." i find it highly suspect that none of these all... : jdcope
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        Dude downloads the game to try it./ sorry, you can't do this. : EvilDolemite
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          Reality says different -- Illegal or not it happens all the time. : pixelat3d
          • it IS illegal and it doesnt matter what his intentions are. : maulla
          • so what? so you're saying people pirate just to try a game? sorry, that's not a good enough excuse. they... : EvilDolemite
          • And if they get caught and sued that is the risk they run, I don't see the problem here? You know your a... : Yabrodan
          • Reality is that it is illegal. : the city
          • So you want to base this in reality? OK, the REALITY is that the punishment is far worse than the crime ... : DinK
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            People speed all the time and it's still illegal. That's not a valid excuse for breaking the law in any f... : DianeOfTheMoon
            • Officer, I was only speeding because I wanted to get to my destination faster! Hey, you know.. same sh... : walker270
            • I'm not saying it is. It's not, but that doesn't change the fact that it happens all the time. I'm not ma : pixelat3d
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        Dude goes to a restaurant. No free samples, and dude can't order 1 oz. sample servings of the meal dude m... : ajvitaly
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          Your scenario makes sense until you find out you can't always digest the food because they didn't spend l... : MrBig0
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            Not that I'm defending anyone's actions, PC gaming just is sometimes a crap shoot for this reason. It's w... : MrBig0
            • Dependence on patching is spilling into consoles more and more, it's going to be just as much of a crapsh... : one random winner
          • lol, I don't think that's the reason it doesn't hold = ) : pixelat3d
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        Sucks for that guy. If he wants to play the game, though, he should've bought it instead of using a sense... : ColoradoCNC
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          Agreed, but that's not what tends to happen = ( : pixelat3d
          • listen, we get it, it's what you do with games, all we are saying is that you should hold up and wait an... : deathofrats
      • lol : skinlab133
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        I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. : Rice-Rocketeer
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          It's really not, it happens a lot. We even have one testimonial below. I'm not arguing the right / wrong ... : pixelat3d
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            No, your post was ridiculous. You replied to twifosp who said "They are aiming to punish the people that ... : OmegaRed59
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              I was saying my principles aren't backwards, not his assertion. My example was to illustrate that the cri... : pixelat3d
              • Whether or not you play it for 5 minutes or 50 hours, what remains is that you still obtained that piece ... : Rice-Rocketeer
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            You're not really "falling through the cracks" if you choose to download something when it specifically s... : Rice-Rocketeer
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              It also states in the EULA that you shouldn't lend your buddy a copy of the game if he wants to try it, b... : pixelat3d
              • I would have no problem with that. It's easier to monitor internet activity than physically going out in... : Moonbase Commander
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                Hm...not sure about that. What about fair use laws? I mean...if I lease something out to a friend, tha... : Rice-Rocketeer
                • Looking into this more, when you buy a game, you are licensed to use it on one machine. So if the game ca... : Rice-Rocketeer
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            It's wrong and anyone who says they pirate the game and purchase it after they decide they like it is pro... : Pettytheft
            • I agree, i don't think it normally leads to a sale, there's actually some great stats from the world of g... : pixelat3d
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        I can somewhat understand this. I have admittedly downloaded one or two games to test the performance, as... : -JLN-
        • Lemme point you to this great site! Can you run it ? http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ : Lukiopimp
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        lol worst argument on the internet for the day. DUDE : brewsterdog
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          Enlighten me. It's a fairly common scenario, either to try for demo purposes or technical purposes, or so... : pixelat3d
          • What external data? It is black and white when you pirate a game. You stole it. : OmegaRed59
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        The pirate was indeed a thief. It doesn't matter what you do with stolen goods once you stole them, you s... : OmegaRed59
        • Jean Valjean got a dime in the can for jacking a loaf of bread. The whole bureaucratic process causes ... : DewFuel
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        I think what's much more likely to happen is that people who pirate DRM-free releases because they really... : Schnapple
        • That's definitely the hope = ) : pixelat3d
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        Intent is irrelevant. The can objectively demonstrate you have appropriated assets without consideration... : Moonbase Commander
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          Also, I can only laugh at your "it's a common scenario" defense. I've tried to write up a few responses ... : Moonbase Commander
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            The fact that you can't write up a decent response should tell you something. it's an informed scenario ... : pixelat3d
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              The only thing it tells me is that you are either so naive or so deluded that you can't see how irrationa... : Moonbase Commander
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                Except you can't seem to articulate a counter argument and are instead sort of just slinging insults, whi... : pixelat3d
                • Dude, he's right. Your scenario relies on far too many "what ifs" to make it a reliable indicator of what : Rice-Rocketeer
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              I can't imagine how this would hurt CD Projekt. It may not work (which I strongly suspect)...but it's not... : Vincent Grayson
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                They wouldn't be pursuing this if it would hurt them. : Moonbase Commander
                • Well, these are the same guys who shut down GOG for four days once just for shits. : Schnapple
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                  How can they know though? Until it launches, I don't think they can realistically assess how much money i... : Vincent Grayson
                  • I am not familiar with actual studies on piracy but I'm would think that their current decision is based ... : Moonbase Commander
              • Bad PR can strike anyone when they start going down this road. Look at what happened to the MPAA/RIAA. Th... : pixelat3d
            • No, he can't write up a decent response because he doesn't want to condescend or be too obnoxious to you.... : the city
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        You should never start an argument with "Let me create a scenario for you." Ever. : walker270
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          I felt an example was the best way to illustrate my point, clearly i should have just called him a shickc... : pixelat3d
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            Examples are excellent ways of illustrating a point. Made-up, hypothetical, one-sided and horribly biase... : walker270
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              The problem is that he believes his hypothetical to be based in "reality". As demonstrated by this threa... : Moonbase Commander
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                Again i would love to see you refute it aside from saying I'm out of touch with reality. We even had one ... : pixelat3d
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                  What the fuck is there to refute? Your example was terrible, flawed, biased, and inaccurate. You want a... : walker270
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                    I want you to tell me why. I just showed some information that informed my opinion and example, show me h... : pixelat3d
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                      You blindly dismiss anything that gets in the way of your point as either worthless or costly while also ... : walker270
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                        oh, and without evidence you imply this is the normal case (your later arguments depend on it). The re... : walker270
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                          I said it happens "a lot" and again, i used an example of a situation where it's likely the case, with a : pixelat3d
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                            Rapists are every day people too. So are murders. So are drunk drivers. So are drug addicts. So are s... : walker270
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                              So, in your eyes a rapist is equal to a dude who downloads a video game online just to try it? Is that wh : pixelat3d
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                                Yes, that is exactly what I'm saying. Downloading a video game is the exact same thing as raping another... : walker270
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                                  OOo sardonic irony, well played. You have called my example: "Made-up, hypothetical, one-sided and ho : pixelat3d
                                  • What sort of evidence are you looking for? Okay, you're asking for evidence. That's fine. I've alre... : walker270
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                            Sure, punishments should fit the crime, but how do you even go about determining the intent of the people : Rice-Rocketeer
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                              Well, like in the world of good piracy example; they used their leaderboards to inform that information, ... : pixelat3d
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                                You're still using hypotheticals and imaginary situations whereby everyone's actions are bared, without p : Rice-Rocketeer
                                • I was with you until this point, but I don't see how citing a source is hypothetical? Of course there's e : pixelat3d
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                        I'm not dismissing anything, nor am i painting the wrong-doer in any sort of light. You're brining some p... : pixelat3d
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                          What personal bias am I bringing into this debate? : walker270
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                            You've yet to give me a solid counterpoint, yet you claim my example is "wrong, flawed, terrible" without... : pixelat3d
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                              What, exactly, would you consider evidence for what I'm saying? : walker270
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                                If you can tell me why my example is impossible and couldn't possibly be an actual use case, despite we h... : pixelat3d
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                                  No one is saying your example is impossible -- they're saying it's irrelevant. Also, I'd stop referenc : walker270
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                                    I don't see how it's irrelevant at all. It's just one of many examples where the person on the receiving ... : pixelat3d
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                                      Fans shouldn't steal their shit. It's fantastic you don't think it's worth it. It's also fantastic th : walker270
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                                        Okay, and just to remove the "blah blah ILLEGAL blah blah" shit before it happens. Say legality doesn' : walker270
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                                          I give up on you. You're still missing fundamental points i was making. First post ignores the intent of ... : pixelat3d
                                          • Thank you for giving up on me. I'm so happy. : walker270
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                                      bringing the RIAA and MPAA up shows just how little you actually understand about how this stuff works. : deathofrats
                                      • I was likening it because of the tactic, not the organizational structure. Metallica didn't fare so well ... : pixelat3d
                  • You typed what I wouldn't. For that, I thank you, walker270. : Moonbase Commander
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        What law entitles you to do this? What gives you the right to download and share (if you obtain the game... : DrWaffles
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          I'm not arguing legality or entitlement, but punishment and net benefit for either side. The reason i cho... : pixelat3d
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            You're correct in saying that CD Projekt isn't necessarily hurt by the lack of a sale (they aren't losing : DrWaffles
            • They don't really gain a whole lot (by suing) Is what I meant to say. : DrWaffles
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            Except the part where you stole a game and played the full product without paying. : the city
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              Except, had you read my example, that's not what happened. : pixelat3d
              • Sorry, i didn't see your oh so eloquent post above. Yes you played the full version of the product, i ass : pixelat3d
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        Part of the problem with this scenario is that you're ignoring everything else. What if the knowledge th... : DinK
        • You're ALSO basing the severity of the crime on what the downloader does AFTER committing it, not the fac... : DinK
  • True that it doesn't solve anything, but anything that reinforces to pirates that they are, in fact, shit... : ColoradoCNC
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    By offering a DRM-Free version of the game, they're basically ensuring that this WILL be pirated in some ... : DinK
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      lol, true. i addressed that in many replies above, uh... somewhere ... this thread got huge. = ) : pixelat3d
      • I understand where on the surface it might seem to be making it easier for the piracy to start, and I bet... : DinK
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  Treat customers like customers, and thieves like thieves? that's just crazy talk. : Finestaut
  • The MPAA will be having a stern talk with Projekt soon. : Zuchu
• Cool, let's just hope they don't keep the same STUPID activation system that Witcher 1 had. I legally ow... : CyCo_PL
• Right approach, proceed without hesitation. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Ugh. Thanks a lot bin Laden. : Magus
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  They shouldn't have told anyone. Then when letters start going out and ISP's are getting pressured it wou... : Lord Skellington
  • Telling people probably works in their favor, since I assume at least some portion of pirates will say "Y... : Vincent Grayson
  • I think a bit part of the idea is that the fear of trouble will reduce piracy up front. They'd much rath... : DinK
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  This is complete and utter bs. Suing someone for stealing? They should treat priates the same as someone ... : hobohun7er
  • Walking into Gamestop to begin with is punishment enough. : Rehevkor
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    The law doesn't treat it that way (nor should it). : Vincent Grayson
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      And why shouldn't it? : hobohun7er
      • Because I am entitled to steal games online brah. : the city
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  Sue 1000 people out of the 500000 who download it, great strategy : crazywigga
  • sue them for the price of the game :) : radula
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  I would wager that over 66% of the people who posted in this thread illegal download shit on a regular ba... : mwasher
  • How dare you make such outrageous assumptions about the humble inhabitants of the shack? : Gylis
  • one day ill register winrar, i swear it : ghost in my shell
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    If you count porn then it's probably 95% : Pettytheft
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      wait you mean downloading porn for free isn't legal?!?! : mwasher
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        pfft, they are all sluts and whores anyways so fuck em. : mwasher
        • That's the general idea : DialDforDan
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    shacks average age seems to be higher than most gaming related communities. that and the fact that there'... : cptstern
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      hahahaha : mwasher
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        (note I am including stuff like mp3's and movies in this as well) : mwasher
        • even so shackers have more disposable income than most gamers. I havent pirated a song in years : cptstern
      • To be fair, 1/1 and 1/0.5 are also fractions. : deject
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      That's some optimistic thinking. Porn pretty much implicates everyone here. : Sgt_Boomstick
      • that quote works in so many ways : DialDforDan
    • Eh, isn't the average age of gamers like...30-ish? If that's the case, Shack's probably pretty represe... : Rice-Rocketeer
  • Wow .. my wager would be around 32%. : Lukiopimp
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  I'm not necessarily against this but are they actually going to make any money if they do go beyond just ... : cetra00
  • What would be hilarious is if they could find a way to catch the downloading people, and then e-mailed th... : Vincent Grayson
• Logical, but really, lol, not going to happen. : Visceral Monkey
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  I love how everyone in the world has an unprotected wi-fi network that someone else is downloading torren... : walker270
  • lol seriously. : barichnikov
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    I do. :S : mwasher
    • (of course I QoS the shit out of it) : mwasher
  • unprotected wi-fi network that someone else is downloading torrents off of. : Marrbe
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    Mine's unprotected, but I'm not terribly worried. : Vincent Grayson
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      Why isn't it protected? : yAak
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        He's in Antarctica. : one random winner
        • Arrr there be polar pirates! : HL3dsx
    • Well, the biggest risk of an unprotected wifi is not that it's unprotected, but that it's unencrypted. Th... : OverloadUT
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    I used to keep my wifi unprotected as a courtesy to whoever might need to check their email or do some li... : boring gegtik
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      What you might do is just put the password in the SSID, so people can still use it, and you're still usin... : famine101
      • Yeah that makes a lot of sense. Going totally unencrypted is a bad idea : OverloadUT
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    good friend of mine lives in a small(ish) apartment complex. he'd turn on his ipod touch and pick up at l... : cptstern
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      People are wising up around here. The 12 or so networks in my apartment complex have gone from mostly un... : trove
      • They had those McGruff the Crime Dog wifi commercials a couple years ago. : cpt_gloval
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    well... lots of people aren't tech savvy enough to realize it. Just think of the children everyone's pare... : Megara9
    • parents, even : Megara9
  • It's not that everyone in the world has an unprotected wi-fi network that someone else is downloading tor... : skizl
• This idea sounds awesome and it makes me look forward to buying The Witcher 2. Let your legitimate custo... : DinK
• I just want Witcher 2 :D : Godhatesfatpeople
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  why would anyone pirate it? witcher 1 sucked : gyokuro
  • sucked so much it sold a lot of copies "According to CD Project co-founder Michal Kicinski, the Enhanc... : cptstern
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    Here is your target gentlemen. You know what needs to be done. : Rehevkor
    • Really isn't worth it. : Totenjaeger
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    Prepare your anus. Daddy's coming home. : Godhatesfatpeople
    • lol : jahulio2
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    i tried to like it. I played like 3 acts didn't finish the 3rd. the 1st was really lame at the end fight : gyokuro
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      oh yeah and it was on rails. you couldn't go where you wanted there were invisible brushes everywhere pre... : gyokuro
      • What? The main levels were pretty big. While some of the in-between's were a lot smaller. Lots of variati... : Godhatesfatpeople
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24552885 : lakren
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    Its one of many games i bought I have yet to play. Not sure if I will. : pimpium
    • its one of the very, very few games i've bought and played through to the finish : yAak
  • Yeah I couldn't get past the first 30 mins or so either. : WadeMcLain
  • well, now I know we differ on video games as well as politics. You might be my nemesis! : hirez
  • *paging mace* Time for an arse raping, b0y. : CrustaR
  • I finally finished it last night (42hr playthrough) and immediately pre-ordered the sequel on Steam and w... : Full.Bleed
  • I found the game to be horribly entertaining. The first act was a bit of a slog, but once you get out of... : hatelull
  • wow, must be a burden to be so wrong all the time. : AMikaboshi
  • I guess someone who thought Witcher 1 sucked and doesn't want to spend money on the Witcher 2 would pirat... : Lukiopimp
  • It was OK. I haven't finished it yet, so I can't really say, but as far as I've gotten I don't see what ... : TheVietSpecial
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  Didn't everyone hate when the MPAA and RIAA did this sorta thing for movies/music? : boredguy
  • Yes, but that's because the MPAA and RIAA are inherently evil entities. : one random winner
  • CD Projekt isn't loading down their game with crap that basically requires you to break the law in order ... : TheStupidOne
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    That's very different than what CDP is doing here. Of that money the MPAA and the RIAA did get or put int... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      Well the thing for me is CDP isn't doing stuff that patently restricts my fair use rights while hiding be... : TheStupidOne
      • I agree. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • But it isn't. CDP is offering me this game, release day, with no DRM, online at a fair price. There's abs : LoioshDwaggie
  • Depends on your definition of "everyone" Everyone on, say, Slashdot hated it. The RIAA/MPAA kept talki... : Schnapple
• The fine should be equal to the price of the game : oldschoolbob-o
• yeah thats real effective, announcing it ahead of time. Just watch the slightly less stupid people get i... : retardhumper
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  This game is going to be SO FUCKING GOOD. I feel it in my bones. : freshyk
  • eastern European games have been surprise hits the past five years or so. Witcher, Metro 2033, Stalker, ... : deathofrats
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  So what is the rationale behind pirating a DRM-free, demo'd, downloadable, high quality game? : sammyl
  • it's cheap : mwasher
  • Who the fuck knows. : walker270
  • Uh, you don't have to pay money? Duh. : TheVietSpecial
  • Some people will steal anything if they can. DRM cracked or not, free demo or not, downloadable or retail... : pyide
  • Wasn't the original witcher censored in many regions until the 'bonus content patch' or whatever came out... : nem00
  • I'm sure the no-good-bastard-pirates will say they're just trying it as an extended demo. : treefingers1
• Peerblock if you use torrents. Else use newsgroups like giganews. : mikefr24
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  Fuck the pirates in the fucking cockholes. You can get it for a more than reasonable price with no DRM on... : roushimsx
  • We will ALL fuck them in their cheap asses. : duffman03

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• i'm so hungry now : vov1n
• I'm scared! : c0bra
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  I used Alton Brown's recipe 2x last year to rave reviews: http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/alton-brown/... : kgargs
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    I agree, it's the best I've ever had/made too. My mom wouldn't let me make it the last couple years becau... : c0bra
    • http://thepioneerwoman.com/cooking/2010/11/how-to-control-saltiness-after-brining/ : ant_hillbilly
  • if I had the space and proper equipment I would deep fry a turkey every year : gmd
  • I showed my mom that episode of good eats, and the turkey came out really well. :D : Chunks
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    I'm trying it this year, and hopefully I didn't fuck up the brine yesterday. :( : sevogajre
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      are you brining this early? : dahanese
      • Well, I have little experience cooking, so I'm taking things nice and easy. But no, I was just making/re... : sevogajre
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    i'm doing this - slightly adapted but pretty much the same. making the brine tonight, dunking the turkey ... : dahanese
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      I've used this recipe for the last like 4 or 5 years, ever since Rosewood posted it. I thank him every Th... : mace
      • You are welcome mace and everyone else that uses it. : rosewood
  • i used this one year when my parents were in england during thanksgiving and it was awesome. they didn't ... : vov1n
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  Duck fat? Weird. I presume it tastes good? : omnova
  • duck fat fries are one of the greatest things in the world : gmd
  • Duck fat is quite possible the tastiest substance in the world. : action roommate
  • goose fat is even better : csana
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    duck fat is amazing. have you ever had confit? : mindmann
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      Mmm... Confit. It's been a couple years, but I love making Duck Confit. The best part is that after r... : Ormsbee
      • i've never done it. i'd like to try, though. how hard is it? : mindmann
  • Duck fat is the best thing you heathen : smoove
  • duck fat is culinary gold : mikecyb
• I don't do thanksgiving, but I do cook often with goose fat, and it adds a great flavor : csana
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  I am doing a beer can turkey on the grill while my mother ruins another turkey in the oven. : K0LM
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    are you using a tall-boy : boring gegtik
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      No I use the fat can Fosters. : K0LM
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        ale or lager? : papaskot
        • lager : K0LM
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        Make a Four-Loko turkey : boring gegtik
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          this is hilarious! : pointyelbows
          • foodie humour : boring gegtik
        • banned by the FDA "Clearly, the recent trend of combining alcoholic energy drinks with delicious grill : EvilDolemite
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  I smoked two turkeys for a local children's home yesterday and they really liked them. Injected with a m... : o0JediBeavis0o
  • Sounds pretty amazing. : DJ Clipdat
• This is the ultimate turkey cooking method: http://www.cookingissues.com/2009/11/25/turkey-time-part-3-ho... : scythide
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  If it ain't fried, you're doing it wrong. : Crabs Jarrard
  • once you go fried turkey, you never go back. :( : mwasher
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    fried is great, but a huge pain in the ass and not everyone can do it. you can make a killer roast turke... : EvilDolemite
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      I don't see how it is a pain in the ass at all. Setup a tripod stand with a chain, put big hot kettle u... : mwasher
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        i don't have anywhere to do that safely because i live in the city. : dahanese
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          Stop whining. http://www.amazon.com/Char-Broil-10101480-08101480-Oil-Less-Infrared/dp/B001HBI7D8 : Crabs Jarrard
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            Although I can verify that this method produces a slightly less tasty turkey, it is still world's better ... : Crabs Jarrard
            • looks like it bakes the turkey to me??? : boring gegtik
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              i don't think you know what you're talking about. : JohnnyRey
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                My bad. I assumed they had a backyard/porch of some sort. Most folks do. : Crabs Jarrard
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                  I mean with the infrared thing. It's basically baking it =) : JohnnyRey
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                    Yeah, that's why I mentioned that it wasn't quite as good. Mostly because that method (just like the oven... : Crabs Jarrard
                    • I was just giving you a hard time, because you said this is better then baking, even though they are pret... : JohnnyRey
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            you still can't use that indoors - i'm not cooking a turkey on a public sidewalk. : dahanese
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              then obviously frying a turkey is not for you. what relevance does this have to the topic? the method i... : mwasher
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                it's a pain in the ass if you don't have a yard!!!! : dahanese
                • do it in your bathtub duhhhhh : mwasher
        • right on. : mwasher
        • we used a masterbuilt butterball indoor electric turkey fryer from amazon for $110 and it worked out real... : wvuong
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        that's a lot more effort than putting it in the oven! plus disposing of the oil, and all the safety prec... : EvilDolemite
        • All you need is a fire extinguisher and someone expendable to monitor the temperature. : Rehevkor
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          There is no elaborate effort. It takes 30 seconds to hook the cylinder into the burner. It takes 10-12 mi... : Crabs Jarrard
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            i've fried a turkey before. it's fine. i don't think it's some amazing technique. i think people are f... : EvilDolemite
            • Who said it was an amazing technique? It simply produces a tasty, very moist bird every time. Are you say... : Crabs Jarrard
            • i had a fried turkey in alabama - it was good, but i prefer a well roasted turkey. i know a lot of pe... : dahanese
            • your huge pain in the ass is because you haven't purchased the equipment, not because actually doing it i... : mwasher
      • Exactly. You don't even have to season or inject the thing. It comes out tasting like a million bucks in ... : Crabs Jarrard
      • *make sure turkey is frozen and oil is filled to the top : gmd
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      and isn't it like 1000x less healthy? : JohnnyRey
      • The average 18lb bird consumes about 1-2oz of the oil, in my experience. I have no science behind this me... : Crabs Jarrard
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    this is what I'm doing this year. I bought a fryer on sale, but Jesus H Christ is it expensive to get it ... : freakord
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      what, it's no big deal though - takes 30 seconds! : EvilDolemite
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        hurrrrrrr i want to bake my turkey but i don't have an oven jesus christ it's so expensive!! : mwasher
        • ok this was going to far. nevermind. i'm not even cooking a turkey this year. fuck you guys. : mwasher
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          mwasher you are losing your shitttt !!!! : gmd
          • the holidays be stressing me out in my old age : mwasher
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    I think I've proclaimed the wonders of spatchcocking on Shacknews before. I've had no problem getting a t... : drhazard
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      This I need to try! : Crabs Jarrard
      • Plus you feel really manly when you carve the sonuvabitch's backbone out of his goddamn carcass! : drhazard
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  That will be a fine turkey, no doubt. I have issues with the wet brine (it's a hassle), so I've gone wit... : sukabljat
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    I'm confused. : JohnnyRey
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      What are you confused about? : sukabljat
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        wet brine? dry brine? sous vide? what do these things mean? : JohnnyRey
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          Why are you judging others cooking methods when you don't appear to have a clue about cooking in general? : Crabs Jarrard
          • What do you mean? When did I ever judge anything?? I said I was confused! : JohnnyRey
          • You are being exceptionally hostile to some one who is just trying to learn. : one random winner
          • He's confused, not judgmental. Drop the hostility and help a brotha out! : FlamingGimp
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          Wet brine = liquid with a high salt content. You are soaking meat into this so that some of the liquid i... : sukabljat
          • Do you have an immersion circulator or what? : action roommate
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    I like how you say wet-brining is a hassle and then launch into a tale of butchering and sous-vide : action roommate
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      For me, it's all about where the hassle ends to really bring out the enjoyment of flavor. Wet brining re... : sukabljat
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        A lot of space and ingredients? C'mon, all you need is a $30 cooler and maybe $10-$15 worth of salt ... : action roommate
        • I've done the dry brine several times, it's a lot of liquid and space that I didn't care to dedicate for ... : sukabljat
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  i will be showing this to my wife post haste. the unfortunate fact is that her father is cooking the turk... : kbnerd
  • Yeah, our official t-day turkeys are being cooked by someone else. But the GF got a turkey from her of... : action roommate
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  All of this shit makes me weep because at my family outings the turkey is like eating a strip of leather.... : avatar_58
  • That's the way it always was at my house. I made the Good Eats roast turkey years ago, and my brother ma... : o0JediBeavis0o

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  I've been playing for about 4 days now, I like it a lot. I'm gravitating toward artillery, specifically ... : jimmy-buffett
  • Check your SM. : sheepraper
  • crew is huge. first thing you want to do is a get a high % crew and always retrain them when you switch t... : Foxhawk
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    Light tanks are scouts and harassers, you get points for spotting tanks for other team members and you ca... : shortbuscaptain
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      ^^ this. You also get bonus xp when a teammate hits a target you can see but they can't other than becau... : JuffoWup
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        Dammit guys, now I really want in on this :( : sanchez
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          Check your SM NOW! : sheepraper
          • OMG I love you! I will have your manbabies! Downloading now... : sanchez
• If you're playing, you might be interested in one of these following 'clans' . They've existed for over y... : Smoochy666
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  Still waiting for a port of TOKYO WARS. : Omaha
  • Fuck yes! Instead of 1v1 in a few city blocks, have 64-128 players in a massive city with surrounding sub... : Full.Bleed
• I have had lots of fun with this game so far. I just got my new tank too. : sheepraper
• It has been both fun and irritating for me. On the one hand, I've had fun where I'm out of rounds and mo... : JuffoWup
• It's been a lot of fun and I will definitely be playing it at launch. I am really curious to see how the ... : shortbuscaptain
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  I want to play so badly but I cannot complete one round, graphics crash and hard lock within 2-3 minutes : Lunatic Angelic
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    Hey, can I get a show of hands how many Win7 x64 Nvidia users are playing this game from this thread? : Lunatic Angelic
    • Right here Works with a GTX 260 (although it just died) and a GTX460. : sheepraper
    • win7 x64 GTX260. Haven't played in a month or two but used to play all of the time. : Foxhawk
    • yup, win 7 ultimate 64bit + gtx 285 (rip, BFG) : JuffoWup
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      Thanks guys, really wondering what the problem is, hrmmm. No other gaming issues. : Lunatic Angelic
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        disable your sound hardware & delete drivers and see if problem goes away? : proclone1
        • or, delete directx & reinstall : proclone1
• Applied : sanchez
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  lol poor eve online: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5u5mUHIt4IE&feature=player_embedded : sanchez
  • From what I understand they are actually pulling a lot of members from Eve. BoB, Goonswarm, etc.. : shortbuscaptain
• I applied weeks ago and am still lacking an invite :( : Topsiderover
• Been in the beta for this for a while. It's tons of fun, but can be quite frustrating too at times. Graph : nephilem
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  i started the beta about a week ago - it's a real grindfest when you're in a small tank probably 70% o... : e v i l
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    It's not just based on damage, it's also based on scouting, assists, also targets hit. If you get out the... : shortbuscaptain
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      Assuming I ever get this game working, what is spot? Just look at them? : Lunatic Angelic
      • when you can see them, it shows them on the minimap - that lets others see where they are, and lets artil... : e v i l
      • Yea, each tank has a view range and can be hidden based on various factors, hiding in bushes, cover, buil... : shortbuscaptain
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      ever guy ive ever seen scout has died 10 seconds after 1st contact. : e v i l
      • Well yea, if you run out into the open into a group of 10 tanks the outcome is inevitable. Using hills an... : shortbuscaptain
      • you'll just die scouting sometimes. no big deal. if you scout a bunch of tanks, you will make so much mo... : Foxhawk
• tanks, but no tanks. : Wikus Van De Merwe
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  How does the crew training work? : trove
  • The % is how effective your current tank is, for example say if you crew is 60% your view range, accuracy... : shortbuscaptain
• I've been playing for almost two months now. It still needs a lot of work, but I'm really enjoying it so ... : KangDang