Morning Discussion: E3 Explosion Edition

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• I was hiding under your porch because I love you : conandan
• I was hiding under the porch, because I love you : tashtego
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  Kevin imitating human talk. Kevin saying goodbye to the three companions. Kevin. : zebosausamite
  • I love it how Russell found out it was female but continued to call it Kevin. :) : kek
• Alpha's first lines. : Masem
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  I was really moved by this movie, too. MY GIRLFRIEND actually cried a little... It doesn't seem like it : Clasifyd
  • Shacktag fail, sorry.... : Clasifyd
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    Kids movies tend to be kids movies because they don't understand the adult references. That said, this : walker270
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      Not to mention the idea of miscarriage or infertility Also, the guy fell with a few balloons, he's pro : kek
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        They're completely evil, but I don't know if Disney ever heavily implied they murdered innocent people. : walker270
        • Yeah you got me there. I can't think of any Disney villains who actually killed anybody or rather they s... : kek
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          Actually, Pixar (and by extension, Disney) has done this before. Remember in The Incredibles, Syndrome w : ZTac
          • Ahh, a winnar is you. Good call. : kek
  • I had a screamer next to me when I saw it when they thought Kevin was dead. :( : breadsticks
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    i fucking cried you insensitive bastard. it was sad as fuck. : m0rfus
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      I agree, but I don't know why you're angry at me about it :'( : Clasifyd
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        it was the CAPS, they get me all the time. it's like i read comments and in my head i start shouting when... : m0rfus
        • Gah! I HATE squirrels! : kek
  • hence it being a PG movie. there certainly were elements that you want to be there as a parent to explai... : greydog
• I loved it. I misted up at the initial Carl/Elly montage and cried at the discovery of the Carl/Elly ent : ZTac
• When Dug was trapped by the others dogs and said hi : spiderfill
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  is this a good "date"-type movie? i want to ask someone out. : fsck
  • I think it'd be a better 'couples' movie, personally. May be a bit heavy for a first date : Clasifyd
  • frak it won't be out here until september :[ : fsck
  • hey baby i always need dogs and balloons to get it up : spiderfill
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    I think movies suck for dates. You don't interact with each other at all. : kek
    • Or you may interact a LOT, if it's not the first date. : Lone Swordsman
  • i suggest it, if only for the fun you'll have afterwards talking and being happy. : threeup
  • Absolutely a good date movie. My wife cried. : romulan
• Hey, Freakazoid. Wanna go to Paradise Falls? : ZTac
• Tried to watch this last night, after about 10 minutes of false starts the theater manager came and annou... : asylumn
• The Wilderness Must be Explored! Ka-Kaw! Roar! : thenoodleincident
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  Parent poll- is this movie too much for a 3 year old? : Lightzout
  • My experience that most TV shows/movies longer than 30 minutes are too much for a three year old. Howeve... : hatelull
  • I was wondering this too. My son asks a lot of questions though which would probably annoy people. I m... : Bull
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    I don't know but I'll tell you what is too much, the price for a 3D ticket on a DLP screen. $13 a ticket : kek
    • introduce yourself to some Sunday afternoon matinee : brainchild420
  • my 3 year old will be 4 in a few weeks and this is the first movie she made it all the way through. It's... : FormerHPB
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    I found this article for parents who are interested: http://www.wired.com/geekdad/2009/05/top-ten-things... : Clasifyd
    • Warning: contains spoilers. : CrustaR
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    I don't know that I'd like to bring my five year old to it - he's been through a couple deaths already, b : Deathlove
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      I thought she was infertile, since we never actually see her pregnant. : My Documents
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        They were putting together a nursery, I took that to be an implication that she had actually gotten pregn : Deathlove
        • Yeah, I remember that, but that doesn't rule out they could've just been an optimistic, over-excited coup : My Documents
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          There was no dialog, they had to show their desire to have a baby somehow. Maybe showing them taking her : edgewise
          • I am not going to explain cervical mucus to my five year old. : Deathlove
    • I brought a 6 year old. It happens so quickly and it's kind of glossed over, she didn't really say anythi... : laurgasms
    • It'd be a pretty unusual five year old that would understand the implications of those few seconds. : Vincent Grayson
    • I wouldn't expect a five year old to catch any of that. It wasn't explicitly shown and the scene was very... : esad
  • 3? Maybe. My son is 4 and he was enraptured the whole time though. He loved the 3D glasses. : gooblerampling
  • No, it's fine. We saw it with my 5 year old and 3 year old, and they both loved it. It was the first movi... : Vincent Grayson
  • my 3 year old liked it. : edgewise
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    When I watched it, I heard several kids asking Why is she crying? during the scene where they realized th : shyguy74
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      really? We just told my daughter, "They can't have kids." "why not?" "Some people just can't "why : edgewise
      • lol great answer : MrBig0
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  I liked it lots but I have two major complaints: First: The awesome setting in the South American wild : WaterSign
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    Re: Muntz 1) Taking Kevin would have doomed her chicks to a slow and horrible death. 2) Muntz was insan : ZTac
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      Re: 1 That's what I keep telling myself to make sense of it, but up to that point I hadn't any inkling t : WaterSign
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        Wasn't Carl reluctant to mention Kevin because he had promised not to abandon Kevin before that? Crossin : ZTac
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          Oh, that's a good point. Okay, I will mull over this. : WaterSign
          • Also Carl had no good reason to bring up Kevin until after Muntz had made it clear that he was a little o : sKetchflow
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    i agree with both of these points. I thought it was kind of ridiculous that they straight murdered Muntz : ass-street
    • (a) Not murder if it's self-defense (b) zeppelin : Deathlove
• You want to create a scrapbook for your gf/wife now don't you? : TwiLyght
• I saw it twice within the weekend and wow, those 10min for the movie are always moving. For some reason, ... : Darkfox76
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  Schädlingsbekämpfungen - this is a word? : PointlesS76
  • yes it is! : Sebasti0n
• Dug -- I hid under the porch because i love you. : krym3
• Everything in your first line rings completely true. It was great. : action wombmate
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  Sometimes it's the boring things that you remember most. :[ : My Documents
  • This was the one that got me the most. : edgewise
  • this was also my favorite line : [fry]
  • This misted me up. As did the entire opening montage. Very very touching. : thetangent
• You know what's weird? I didn't even hear of the movie until today. I know nothing about the movie, not e... : SatansFist
• Interesting trivia tidbit I saw reading an easter eggs list: The home shopping network clip he's watchin... : icking fudiot
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  Yes, quite extraordinary. I was holding back tears most of the time :/ : askedrelic
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    same for me, during the opening montage especially... i was with friends and didn't want to look a bitch : MrBig0
    • also the "thanks for the adventure part :'(" : MrBig0
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  Pixar just shouldn't be allowed to make movies any more because they make everyone else look terrible. A : mikecyb
  • Yeah I was about to let go to : johngloid
  • haha look at this bitch i didn't cry until the pictures in the adventure book : Deathlove
  • I hear ya brother, those 3D saved my dignity. I couldn't stop crying! : jcrockerman
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  i enjoyed it but was a little underwhelmed as far as pixar movies go : [fry]
  • i thought the funniest thing in the movie was how the snipe hissing at people : [fry]
• I just got home from seeing it in 3D. If you can, go watch it that way. Awesome experience. I loved Wall-... : dudehoyt
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  I agree with all the "I hid under the porch because I love you." people. I also loved But it's a TALKING : thetangent
  • Oh, and I could NOT stop laughing at the dog with the funny voice. Jesus that was a stroke of genius! : thetangent

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  i assume for NDS? thats awesome if true : smax
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    Metroid Dread will one day come out : grabbie
    • LOLz, I completely forgot about that. : one random winner
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  The Beatles? MS will regret this decision when zombie John Lennon starts eating faces. : Degenerate
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    and zombie George Harrison assists! : jonin
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      he's not a real zombie, just like he wasn't a real musician. : Degenerate
      • you crazy : jonin
      • hahaha : Amadan
      • what the fuck is this : MoreVespeneGas
      • they kept him in the band to make themselves look hotter : grandmasterlee
      • THANK YOU : abovedefault
      • Your penis will gently weep for that! : Sailor of Fortune
      • haha : buzzbat
      • You are a broken human being. : thetangent
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    Quick! Plant some sunflowers so that we can get our garden to grow before they attack! : Masem
    • All you need is love, dude. : master_disaster_17
  • ZOMB-E3!! : MorrisatCNN
  • And then Zoey, Bill, Louis, and Francis will jump on stage to fight him. Except Bill is a bot and just ke... : PointlesS76
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  It'll just be Paul and Ringo and some scabs. But still, pretty big. : mancide
  • I hope it's Peter Moore just playing Rock Band: Beatles and totally sucking dick again. (this is what... : pancake humper
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  there is something so messed up for the beatles reuniting to market a video game : spiderfill
  • Spaceballs: the quest for more money : ErikTehRed
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  I hope you are right about 2D Metroid. This is the announcement I want before every e3 :\ : c_man_tmt
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    There should only be 2D Metroid games. : amrbean
    • false : brainchild420
    • Metroid Prime was great, so I disagree with this statement. What I am hoping for is a side scrolling Met... : c_man_tmt
    • wrong! Metroid Prime was one of the greatest games i've ever played. : Dschinghis Khan
    • you should not be allowed to post anymore. Metroid Prime was amazing. : zerog83
    • Omaha character account detected! : omnova
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      metroid prime 1 and 3 are some of the best gaming anybody can experience : Mr.SEX
      • 2 wasn't that bad either, although I think 1 was the best out of all of them. They were all amazing game... : one random winner
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      I can agree with this. MP1 and 3 would've been awesome if I didn't hate the control schemes for both of ... : dedgecko
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        so you... liked the second one? : brainchild420
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          didn't even bother with it after futzing around with an in-store demo of MP2. : dedgecko
          • man you have missed out on some mecca's of gaming here :/ i've always thought their control scheme's wer... : brainchild420
  • 2D metriod like New Super Mario Brothers (2.5D style) would kick ass. : Sailor of Fortune
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  I'm thinking Wii-clean motion plus is going to be big, you get the motion plus and a Wiimote plus the fea... : abrasion
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    your wii-hate is weaksauce, next time let it cook another 5 minutes... : brainchild420
    • Hey I wrote that on the fly, I thought it was very creative. : abrasion
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  I so hope the Beatle thing doesn't happen. I can't think of anything worse than seeing John and Ringo pla... : baron calamity
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    john? : disembodied potato
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      err Paul... : baron calamity
      • John Paul? : retardhumper
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    At least Ringo will manage Expert on drums : alnya
    • Ringo should be fired in favor of Ravi Drums : kainen1
    • I wonder if Ringo will be dressed in Red. : baconisgod
    • Peart couldn't handle Tom Sawyer on Expert when they were on Colbert. : Deathlove
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    It's happening, I'm afraid. Best brace yourself. : MorrisatCNN
    • *shudder* : baron calamity
    • Oh Lord no. : Dontdrop
    • ahahahahha lol : xsoulbrothax
    • At least Peter Moore isn't there to hit pause every 5 seconds. : Prozium
    • lol 12:35 nobullet: Its like im really playing a reskinned guitar hero : bipolar
  • at least it's not a good band like zeppelin :P : mnsnota
• I'd love a new Metroid title, particularly one that builds on Fusion in terms of story. : breadsticks
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  Please be Metroid Dread Please be Metroid Dread Please be Metroid Dread : Schnapple
  • Metroid Judge Dredd? "I *am* the l-OH SHIT GET THIS FUCKER OFF ME!" : Masem
• as long as it's on the DS and not the Wii : lowpoly
• wtf you know more than I do =( : Agrona
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  I'm throwing down a gauntlet and saying MS is gonna show a sneak peek of the next console. : Wolfanoz
  • If it was next year I would agree with you. Unless we are talking about an incremental redesign that stil... : Evil Benius
  • You mean the one that's not going to be out for at least three (probably four or five) years? Pretty s... : uncleanmonkey
  • your gauntlet needs to be picked up. : hamachi
• If you are lying to me and getting my hopes up about another Metroid, I will end you. : AlexW1203
• metroid will make me very happy. : dahanese
• A new 2D Metroid game would make my brain explode. : Serpico74

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  that looks.... incredible! I love the 'scenes' where the band plays! and the gig ontop of Apple records! ... : hirez
  • It looks so good. The art team did an incredible job. : Serpico74
• seriously right <3 <3 <3 <3 : Deathlove
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  cool, you can do harmonies : chazums
  • So looking forward to this. : tinfoilhatter
• this shit is gonna sell like golden laced hotcakes : eeeealmo
• HOLY SHIT!!! This will be the entire reason I finally get a 360 : Solstice
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  What is up with the long green drum notes? : hashd
  • * R I N G O ' D * : bipolar
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    In which song did you see that? I didn't notice. : Serpico74
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      It was in a couple of them. The green strip was kinda glowing with a large green note at the end. And it ... : hashd
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        I think that's just a notice that hey, cymbal crash is coming if you want star power. : Serpico74
        • Guess we will have to wait and see. : hashd
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        Fills. You can do whatever you want in there, then hit the Green note at the end to start Overdrive. : Deathlove
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          Yeah, this wasn't anything like in regular Rock Band. The beat was playing as normal but there was a fade... : Serpico74
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            i havent even seen the video, but maybe its a new type of fill? people have complained on hmx's forums en... : xsoulbrothax
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              Watch the video and you'll see what I mean. : Serpico74
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                Plus its awesome :) : Serpico74
                • they probably didn't want anyone doing crappy fills over their songs. : pyide
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                Oh, yeah, I just watched it specifically looking for that. Looks like the green will still hit Overdrive ... : Deathlove
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                  That would be awesome. Fills can be fun but they do take away from the song. : obiquatro
                  • Definitely; especially with shitty drummers for the rest of the band. You're not supposed to just wail ra... : Ebu
  • If it is like Guitar Hero (and not the usual Overdrive kick in) they represent a roll on that drum/cymbal... : Masem
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    Aha, I see it. I bet it's the new Overdrive launch mechanism. Probably allows more sections of the so... : Masem
    • Its a good way to not gack up those songs with unnecessary fill action. : Serpico74
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  multi-part vocals, hah, where the fuck am I going to find another idiot to sing along with me : Majuju
  • 2 buck chuck section at booze mart : MoreVespeneGas
  • You'll need two for some of the songs. : abunch
  • The multi-part vocals is what caught my eye. That could be awesome... (or terrible, of course). : TreMetal
• Yeah well this is just more of the same, Beatles addition. Oh, and more peripheral sales and random mus... : kainen1
• Agreed, but I think they both have their place. : SiW.
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  Full Abbey Road album DLC too, can't fucking wait. : RyDogg1
  • FUCK. YES. :D : thetangent
• Its going to be fun to sing because every beatles song is so damn catchy! : chilln
• I'm watching the 360 conference and it drags for way too long with rock band. I want to see the rest. : razlebol
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  It looks great, the songs are all obviously awesome but as a RB drummer I'm a bit concerned the drum part... : NastyJack
  • I'm in the same boat as you. I'll still be getting it either way, and maybe it'll convince me to get back... : Serpico74
• I thought it was an amazing way to start their conference, I was instantly excited by the videos...the in... : drbriefs
• The Beatles are almost enough to make me buy Rockband...but its too fucking expensive. Pass. : jabuck
• Looks good but I still won't be buying it. Hopefully someone I know will so I can play it a couple times... : WhatIsThisFor
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  unless it has Revolution 9, not interested : dirge23
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    and how would you play it? : capt tripps
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      it's simple. red button = "Number Nine" green button = "The Watusi, The Twist, Eldorado" yellow but... : dirge23
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        That's a lot of buttons, and I'm not sure it sounds very fun. : capt tripps
        • no way, the kids will love it, it's conceptual : dirge23
• The intro movie they showed at the start of the MS Keynote was cool. I thought that was too much for just... : Sailor of Fortune
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  Have you played Guitar Hero: Metallica? It's not your typical stock 'Guitar Hero' game/animations set t... : MatthewPhillips
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    Don't get me wrong: GH:M was the first GH game to really put the artists on display and treat them with g... : Masem
    • There are different versions of the Metallica band members as well. You unlock them in career mode. I j... : OmegaRed59
• My only problem, now that I actually think about it, is that I'm not sure the guitar bits - and maybe the... : mafu5150
• Oh yea, that's a 0-day purchase : Ebu

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• no its a hard shelled turtle : mindshot
• lol, the music is perfect for this. : Maddog_Delphi97
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  what the fuck? who is that insensible fuck that didnt try to save the bird and keeps filming? it's the sa... : Utopia
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    ... your analogy is terrible. You should've gone for Princess Di and the Paparazzi. That aside, thoug... : Agrona
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      Utopia wins again : sparkly
      • aww =( : Agrona
  • Hahaha. : trove
  • Haha, stupid hippie. : tyrelhill
  • How would they help ? : sikander
  • Hey, catch that man! Wait, he is a fat fuck. Nevermind. : rosewood
  • let me just climb up this building Rampage style and try to remember not to eat them this time : qaldar
  • *turns head slowly upside down* WHAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? : GloriousCow
  • http://www.gifbin.com/bin/300g667434.gif : Korban
  • Uh, I love pigeons and feel bad for that dude but come on. NATURE. : jessipoo
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    This is a better video to use that analogy for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XafAdkZIYKA : Senate5000
    • Damn, fucking golden eagles mean business. : action wombmate
  • that bird's neck was broken and almost cut in half when he first bit it. : Old_Fart
  • WTF was he supposed to do? Grapple a turtle to pull a near-dead bird out of its jaws? And what do you t... : action wombmate
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    you forgot to log in to your character account. : Rigg5
    • utopia is a character account : dirge23
  • troll status: successful. man you guys really fell for that one! : pyide
  • Welcome to nature, it's rough out here. : ColoradoCNC
  • BIRDS ON FILM : Audhuml4
  • No matter how many times you do it, it ALWAYS works, and I love it : fishbone
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    Utopia: Blurring the lines between sarcasm and trolling for sport since 2001. : buzzbat
    • I wonder how many read past the collapsed text. It's almost serious sounding until you expand it and see... : Senate5000
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    Are you kidding me... its fucking nature. : krym3
    • starve that cowardly turtle! : crummynz
  • Really??? REALLY?!!?!? FOR REALS YO!?!?!?! : dirge23
  • YEAH!! AND THE PEOPLE THAT LEAVE DOGS IN PARKED CARS TOO!! : g0nk
  • haha, I love when people forget that the most normal cause of death for animals is being eaten alive. : edgewise
  • Dude - it's a pigeon. They're rats with wings. Besides, that turtle EARNED its meal! : thetangent
  • So what, we should stop every carniverous predator on the planet from finding and hunting it's prey as we... : Mr. Goodwrench
  • were the people filming jumpers n 9/11 supposed to catch them before they hit the ground? : cptstern
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  lol@ the Poltergeist music : two50six
  • once i heard that, i lost it : das_runt
  • hahaha yeah, it makes the video 100x cooler : dromo5
• What kind of turtle wears a scarf? And what would they be doing down a pigeon? : Freon
• They should have used the Circle of Life song! : trove
• i think that pigeon might have owed him money : das_runt
• Holy fucking shit! o_O : thetangent
• why is this the ONLY this youtube vid giving me: "Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old ... : papaskot

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  i feel that they will do the same shit and trickle bits and pieces of the game out over the course of a y... : dopeman
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    or it'll be a big expansion. like the difference between Doom and Doom 2 : RikiTiki2
    • The single player in Doom was better, but the super shotgun made Doom 2's DM better. So both games were... : Grimp
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  i was just about to post this. I find it pretty fucking ridiculous that not even a year later they are an... : Dschinghis Khan
  • to be fair every other game studio does this all the time, but i do hope it's a one time thing : Mr.SEX
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    The problem I have is, despite how good Left 4 Dead is, it doesn't feel like there are enough maps to jus... : Modulus
    • I think survival mode pushed it over the hump in that regard. : hirez
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      I disagree on the basis that the content is designed to be extremely replayable. I think releasing the ga... : enyakk
      • Oh, this is for Versus of course. I forgot that some people don't actually use that mode. I guess the sam... : enyakk
    • Agreed. $25 was the right price. : ieGod
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    They kind of fucked themselves with all this free TF2 support didn't they? : Sze Ior
    • In my opinion, they kind of fucked TF2 with all the tweaking. : Ebu
• I just hope that it's a game that has a single player component to it. : Pettytheft
• i didn't turn on the e3 stream until after this where is the trailer someone help me oh god : DrFlammable
• wow that's uhhmm...disappointing : ass-street
• I guess you could say Left 4 Dead was really *sunglasses on* ... can you guys see that shit? It's reall : Lunatic Angelic
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  Same, L4D kind of feels like it wasn't worth full price myself. Atleast with Orange Box even if I didn't ... : rhuntley12
  • Good point. doing a comparison on what you got for buying Orange Box, bs what you get for buying L4D real... : re-verse
• Apparently they are fixing the gameplay (not the bugs but the mechanics) that is broken right now, like w... : enyakk
• It really just sounds like a large l4d mod. Must be why they didn't get that SDK out earlier, they didn'... : unjustend
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  where. is. the. video? : DrFlammable
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A78z_NIq2U : Ziggurat
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      Holy shit : Godhatesfatpeople
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        holy shit no gameplay you mean? : Luminair
        • The setting, new characters, and boss :) : Godhatesfatpeople
        • It's not like they're adding new moves like a runningback spin to the game. It's L4D : Sailor of Fortune
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      yeah that looks pretty awesome, fuck it I am not going to bitch any bit about this. I scoop up any new v... : stgdz
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        it looks really fun to me. new characters and story, too, which is a bonus. : dahanese
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          I don't get it. how can you tell the game looks fun from a prerendered video : Luminair
          • she's that good : onji
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            well, if that stuff is representative of the game, then i'm happy. i wouldn't mind a chainsaw or a frying... : dahanese
            • chainsaw is good but a frying pan isnt as good as the stock of your gun : Luminair
        • when I play with my GF she makes up these stories about the characters that I'm forced to role play as : strandgeck
      • haha, same here : midgetherder
    • Art style looks a bit different. Cleaner textures? Less gritty, at least. : Bamtan
    • Fuck yes! : midgetherder
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      Looks great! I hope they have the limbless and blood-stained zombies in the game and not just for effect ... : vile
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        they have dismemberment now. You can use the axe to chop off legs and the zombies will still crawl towar... : stgdz
        • awesome! : SockMonkeh
    • The New Orleans setting looks tight. : disposition
    • Nothin new. : snuff
    • Fun! :D : das_runt
    • also the baseball bat guy reminded me of the Scout lol : das_runt
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      FUCK YES! : quadeh
      • once the L4D theme music started, i got a total rush : das_runt
    • 3 black dudes, 1 white guy! : shika.art
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  What if this is part of something larger like Orange Box 2 ( for lack of a better term) This could be an ... : sm00v3d
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    Yeah, this is my hope as well. : re-verse
    • I think I'll take a wait and see approach. See what else Valve plans on showing off this year at E3 befor... : sm00v3d
  • the orange box is a special case : Luminair
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  This is the first time I've ever heard someone complain about Valve getting something out too quickly. : ConfusedUs
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    Maybe Valvetime works the opposite way now. : lodit
    • Speaking of Valve-time, did they specify a year? =) : Agrona
    • now you're thinking with portals : moonbreaker
  • I am a bit mad since I just bought it during that sale weekend recently. I won't get nearly as much play ... : Patch-e
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    If X exists, people will complain about X. : SockMonkeh
    • ^^ : onji
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      X? Really? Why did you have to bring X up again. I thought the other day's thread on X was enough. : TheNiXXeD
      • X3 was awesome :p : Mr. Goodwrench
• l4d better be cheap, tf2 was dirt cheap and look at the support it gets, wheras L4D was stupidly expensiv... : Beady
• Way, way too soon. Give us a 24.95 upgrade price and I'll be happy. I guess this also explains why ther... : jingletard
• The only reason I'd care about this being DLC vs a new game is that I don't want to have to switch games ... : MuteMode
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  I don't get people complaining that it's way too soon. Look at CoD, Madden, NHL, etc. They all pump out... : Edges
  • They aren't Valve which is not known for doing this : melkore
  • wtf you mean no one complains? The shack routinely jumps on the EA hate train because of Madden and NHL's... : Sgt_Boomstick
• hmmm. not sure what to think about this yet. can I pre-emptively ragequit? I didn't even know it was an... : Downforce
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    shackdotted? is it really a new separate title? :( : Downforce
    • It was slow but working when i posted it. : boredguy
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  I just want a decent single player experience for this, dammit. Not just "play a level by yourself" like... : Dr Van Nostrand
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    Read the RPS article, looks like Valve is actually trying to do that a bit more with L4D2. : quadeh
    • I hope so, but I got the impression that while they are improving the characters and such, it's still goi... : Dr Van Nostrand
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  http://img3.imagebanana.com/view/4ob2fr2h/L4D2_TheParish.jpg : Snuffles-
  • Aww hell no that zombie di'unt just try an' eat me. Oh it's on, bitch. /endblackchickstereotype : coyoterys
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    please tell me this isn't real : ass-street
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      If they've removed Bill, Francis, Louis and Zoey... I don't know how to feel. : Moonbase Commander
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        watch the thing. new characters : RikiTiki2
        • i don't have audio at work...was planning to wait until home to watch it. : ass-street
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        Yeah, there are four new characters. : mittense
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          Someone is gonna make an "original" model pack. : Moonbase Commander
          • When they release the SDK a few months before the next game? I doubt it. : dafugg
      • Pissed : abrasion
  • Awesome! : vile
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    John Cusack! lol! : silent prophet
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      + Casey Affleck and the dad from Fresh Prince : bipolar
      • Uncle Phil! : EricZBA
  • hahahah I love this : Milleh
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  I'm assuming they're doing this as part of a move to make a new Orange Box deal for Episode 3; any other ... : mittense
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    Is this you? http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=883629 : Snuffles-
    • What? How is that of any relation to what I said? : mittense
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    This is my thinking too. However, if they announce L4D2 then why not just announce EP3/Portal 2 at the sa... : PointlesS76
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      E3 isn't over yet. : mittense
      • This would be the only reasonable outcome of a new L4D so soon esp. at full price, but seems highly unlik... : heartsauce
• Well we have until November and then another franchise becomes disposable. : RyDogg1
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  I paid $50 for L4D when it came out, and I am not happy with that investment anymore. They took too long ... : YerMothah
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    if it makes you feel any better valve lowered the price shortly after you paid $50 and I bought it for li... : Luminair
    • Not on 360 : rhuntley12
    • It was well worth $60 for me. : Milleh
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    But it's L4D2! Now with 50% more Negros. : coyoterys
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      They added half a black person? : Agrona
      • It's Obama : Sze Ior
    • Ummm 1/4 to 2/4 = twice the negro stole my bike. : Sixcos
  • I played L4D for about 10 hours and haven't touched it since. I'll probably picj up L4D2 at some point, b... : baron calamity
  • I have a feeling it'll be part of Orange Box 2. Valve are pretty good with pricing on their own games and... : Bamtan
  • Yeah, I didn't enjoy L4D nearly as much as everyone on the Shack, I barely finished the campaign. I had ... : Begawkiness
  • yeah, this time around I'll be waiting for the 50%-75% off sale instead of pre-ordering it : freakord
• Personally I wish companies that made awesome games put out more games, not less. If Valve wants to put o... : Dynotaku
• Wait what? I haven't even touched L4D much and theres another coming? O_o : avatar_58
• What? I feel like Left 4 Dead just came out. Especially compared to TF2 and HL2: Ep 2. Wtf? : Robotic Puppy Eater
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  Already? people are still enjoying l4d 1. : thekidd
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    will you stop enjoying it? : AroundTheFur1380
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      Yes if no one is playing it anymore because everyone moved on to L4D 2. : SenorSpine
      • This about sums it up : Ebu
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  did they say when exactly? imo if it's like december, half a year from now, l4d won't be feeling *that* ... : greydog
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    November 17. : mittense
    • lol @ release dates on valve time. GOOD TRY MAN : Downforce
• Thinking about this a little more, I'm wondering if it'll be part of a new "Color Box" from Valve that'll... : K1Bond007
• hrm, after watching the video: 1) the change in setting / atmosphere seems refreshing enough 2) new s... : dopeman
• As I said in the other thread I'm kind of disappointed in Valve. I know they're a business and all that, ... : Dontdrop
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  Gameplay vids: http://uk.pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14352245/left-4-dead-2/videos/l4d2_gmp_fireammo_052809... : Bamtan
  • Very disappointing. : ieGod
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    I hope there's more because that seems like expansion pack material :[ : Mmmmmoo
    • Yep :\ : disposition
    • Yeah... : timaste
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    Do any of these show the melee weapons? The one I just watched just L4D: Daytime Edition which I don't ... : Begawkiness
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      Frying pan and axe. Seems like they added the melee cooldown mechanic to coop too. : Mmmmmoo
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        Which video was it in that list? I don't really want to watch them all. : Begawkiness
        • Oh, I fail, it's in the link, sorry nevermind : Begawkiness
    • Yeah, you see the ax and the frying pan. : K1Bond007
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    The new survivors look like a really bad joke. : Poor Yurik
    • voices remind me of redneck rampage : Unleashed
  • Seems like the exact same game with just some different guns. :( Disappointing. : K1Bond007
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    incendiary ammo looks good! and that garden maze could be fun. : hirez
    • ax looked sick too. like it took out a bunch of zombies at once. : hirez
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    I cant wait to play as a southerner, its what I want from escapist fantasy gameplay, wtf valve? : pieman
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      maybe you've never been there, but southerners live in the south : RikiTiki2
      • No shit sherlock. : pieman
  • haha, the frying pan looks as fun as it sounds. : stgdz
  • Yeeaaah... I will reserve judgment until I get to play it, but first impressions... that looks like L4D w... : vile
  • that looks more like a DLC expansion pack than a new game. SO maybe we don't have to drop another 50 buck... : Dschinghis Khan
  • As much as I love Valve, I gotta say Source is showing it's age here. L4D looked ok for me, not amazing ... : jojomcbobo
  • New characters, new weapons, new maps. Isn't that what most sequels are? : WhatIsThisFor
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    "ARE YOU GOING TO SHOOT THE GUY IN THE $3000 SUIT, COME ON!" Yesssssssssssssssssss : Serpico74
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      Actual dialogue from one of the characters in the game, love it : Serpico74
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        Haha, which video is that in? Dibs on Gob! : midgetherder
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          About 45 seconds in: http://pc.ign.com/dor/objects/14352245/left-4-dead-2/videos/l4d2_gmp_dockstart_05280... : Serpico74
          • i was hoping the white suit guy was Latin : das_runt
      • Wait, are you serious? : mittense
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        Did they get Will Arnett to voice him? : ieGod
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          Someone from The Wire is supposed to be a voice of a character. : K1Bond007
          • O_o : Godhatesfatpeople
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            the guy doing the voiceover in the trailer sounds like someone in the wire. can't quite place him though.... : pyide
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              Sounds kind of like Cutty. The boxing guy. : K1Bond007
              • Yeah it does. : pyide
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    I agree with the L4D 1.5 comments, but I'm still buying this even for $50. I wish they'd expand the mele... : midgetherder
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      no way am I paying $50 for this. As much as I absolutely love L4D, when it was first released, it was no... : deathofrats
      • You know that two months later they're going to have one of their Psychology sales and mark it down to $2... : Cihte
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    Why so bright? Why is it during the day? wtf... : deathofrats
    • Yes, it takes place during the day. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    I like that its day, but it needs to look hot and sweaty and muggy. Right now its too clean. The night ca... : Serpico74
    • yeah, darkness is usually the main thing missing in the day :) : onji
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      Heat wave effects would be awesome. But it's still early. I assume it's going to get continuous "wittling... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        I hope so. Day exteriors are the one thing that have felt really antiseptic in every Source game so far. ... : Serpico74
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          It needs to look more like the concept art here http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/images/09/june/l4d22big.... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            RE5 did a good job with a hot and sweaty look. : Serpico74
            • Yeah it did! I want that color scheme and distorted look like in the concept art for L4D 2. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Can anyone upload these to Youtube? I have no access to this at work, all I've got is an iphone. : jingletard
  • hehe, i like that violin music during the crescendos. : Snuffles-
  • Honestly it looks like an amateur mod for L4D. : abrasion
  • the last video is the best one, reminiscient of the end of Episode 2. : baconisgod
  • This looks awesome, id gladly pay $60 for 4 more campaigns to play through. I wish they'd add some more g... : Milleh
  • Hrm. That's not $50 worth of new material. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Still has the same achievements...hmmmm.. : Gojirah
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  I think Left 4 Dead would've been a good game for episodic content and expansion packs. I was also hoping... : Mmmmmoo
  • I agree, with 4 new characters it's total abandonment of what little we got to play. :( : Downforce
  • I agree as well. : d3tached
  • no shit. in fact it would've been ideal for this sort of thing. Sell campaigns at $10 a pop for a year or... : SenorSpine
• I'm holding out for L4D3. : Sze Ior
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  L4D was L4D :( : mnsnota
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    /Bill "I hate Sequels" /Bill : jonin
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      adding more fail to this fail :( you mean francis : Downforce
      • I'm getting old man, I can't remember all this shit. : jonin
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  Why don't we wait for more info before we cry? : brickmatt
  • it's a VAVLE product. : manero
  • It's here: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01/left-4-dead-2-exclusive-rps-preview/ : enyakk
• A new special infected called the charger. : Umbr
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  IGN preview: http://pc.ign.com/articles/988/988161p2.html Developed in house by Valve by people who work... : snowwolf
  • I like the changes especially this: The director will also have spatial control over parts of some levels : Mmmmmoo
• As long as it's a $20 expansion, I'm okay with it. The game looks like a real sequel with the new setting... : Link.
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  Chet noted that they were discussing including the original four Left 4 Dead campaigns with Left 4 Dead 2 : K1Bond007
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    On the other hand that's also a boon for people who already own the game. It would suck to have to switch... : enyakk
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      how is that a problem for those on steam though? : deathofrats
      • Typically my friends and I enter a lobby and then decide on a VS campaign to play. Want to play the old s... : enyakk
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    would you be happier if they left it off and made you have to swap disks? :-( : dahanese
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      using it as a 'hay you get two games for the price of one, such a deal!' selling point is a little kick i... : deathofrats
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        How so? We've been playing and enjoying the game, and will have been for almost a year when L4D2 comes ou... : Vincent Grayson
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          It would kinda suck though for anyone looking to buy L4D right now if you could get both for the same pri... : Mmmmmoo
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            True. It'd be cool if they further integrated Steam by offering a lower price point for people who alread... : Vincent Grayson
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              like they did with the Orange Box? Ohwaitaminute.... : deathofrats
              • Because they didn't? I didn't get any discount on the Orange Box just because I owned HL2 and Ep 1. I got... : Vincent Grayson
      • you must be so angry all the time at games, then, because this happens a lot when new shit rolls out. ... : dahanese
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      The entire problem could be solved by making it DLC and charging for it. Not that I'd be happy about that... : ieGod
      • I don't quite understand why they weren't going this route to be honest. But I guess this way it at least... : enyakk
    • I'd be happier if it sounded more like "if you own L4D too then..." but it doesn't sound like that. Who k... : K1Bond007
    • I would be happier if they just sold the new maps as a content pack for Left4Dead 1 at $30 or so and drop... : BlackCat9
  • If this is a full priced game I'm going to probably hold off. : PointlesS76
  • The fact that you'd have to have completely missed the first 6 months or so of playing L4D coop and versu... : Poor Yurik
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    This sounds awfully similar to the HL2-being-free whining that occured when The Orange Box came out. : Bamtan
    • Except it didn't happen one year later... : Dontdrop
  • I think there's a lot to be said for having the "base" game plus one "episode" costing a certain amount, ... : FlatlineDixay
  • chet is the worst first name i swear to god : peat
  • UT2003'd. if we whine at valve enough, maybe they'll give us a $10 rebate. : moonbreaker
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  It's too soon. It's not a true sequel. If it's full priced, I'm not buying it. I don't even think the fir... : lplasmatron
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    Maybe single player, sure. I played L4D for weeks and weeks and had a blast, but I know that I never wou... : Poor Yurik
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      I think the VS mode is terrible. So I didn't play L4D for long. : lplasmatron
      • I still play a few rounds of Versus damn near every day. I haven't enjoyed a multiplayer game as much as ... : Vincent Grayson
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    You get miles more gameplay than 4 hours though. : trelain
    • Seriously. I think I've played 10 hours in the last week or two. : Vincent Grayson
    • Hours played isn't the only metric to consider a games value. I wish people would stop that. By that logi... : SenorSpine
  • Yeah I don't think they could put in enough to make it worth another $50. : deject
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  I am excited to play more L4D but I thought they were going to add more scenarios to the original game. ... : grendel
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    Versus doesn't count for me, I never found it very fun it was all about the co-op! : grendel
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      Yeah, I never really dug Versus (though I don't know that I've tried it, the idea just doesn't appeal to ... : mittense
      • Versus is the best part of L4D, you should give it a try. Griefing the other team as the infected is ridi... : Serpico74
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      I hate versus. I'd rather just play coop. I'm surprised they're doing a L4D2 instead of just taking the L... : K1Bond007
      • That would be pretty fucking sweet. : Vincent Grayson
      • That does sound sweet. : unjustend
      • man I would buy that. : SenorSpine
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        you should make your own games company : Bamtan
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          Bamtan, what would he call his video games company? : Snuffles-
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            Vavle : rock elf
            • Vavle x10 : thebigbeefsandwich
          • Spigot : guido anchovy
• I for one completely do not care. I preordered to get in the beta and got bored with the game before the ... : retarded talking dinosaur
• cool, apparently the SDK, at least the beta version, was released on the 15th. time to clear the infected... : strandgeck
• what kind of bullshit is that? : melt_core
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  http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01/left-4-dead-2-exclusive-rps-preview/ I'll buy it, it sounds aw... : brickmatt
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    brickmatt, there are a lot of crazy people in this thread. Although I can see their point of L4D 2 being ... : enyakk
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      No kidding, VS is hands down the most fun to be had in the game. It does have the biggest learning curve ... : Serpico74
      • You could say that of any coop game, I think that's an oversimplification. : brickmatt
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        Shhhhhhhh. We played some VS last night, and the most fun - as infected - is when someone runs on up a... : mafu5150
        • Oh, killing stragglers/sightseers/Rambos is the best, so good. : Serpico74
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      Yeah it's like MAN this game has no content!!!1 oh btw I made a consciouss decision not to play half the ... : aeg1x
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        I played it and I found it lacking in fun (versus mode). i tried to make a conscious decision to only re : grendel
        • also I don't feel like i got $50 worth of game the first time around, so I hope the new one isn't $50 : grendel
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    Fuck valve now. I will NEVER buy any of their games early or full price again. : YerMothah
    • this is totally awesome and sweet. the internet is going to implode this week : Downforce
    • Lol, you guys are so ficke. : brickmatt
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    this interview makes it sound fucking amazing. Like L4D on crack. I'm stoked. Also, someone brought u... : mysled
    • Steam will probably have a pre-order sale for it like they did the first one. : pyide
    • Seriously, this interview has me all excited, I'm so confused people are complaining. Isn't the issue th : brickmatt
  • Sounds good to me! : yosemiteclimber
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    You sort of have to be pessimistic about exclusive previews, and the gameplay video is downright boring. : Felraiser
    • I like that site, and I don't recall any Valve previews that were shady and failed to deliver. We'll see. : brickmatt
  • Day and date! Mysled, will you play L4D2 with me? We seem to be the only ones excited and not crying abo... : .sticks.
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  This will probably be the first Valve game I don't buy. I just have no interest in it after playing the ... : melkore
  • hah, same : shirif
  • It was REALLY hard to keep a large group of friends into this game. The 4 player size just limits a perso... : byorn
• What. The. Shit. God damn it. You know, I rarely pay $60 for a game but I paid $60 for L4D on 360 back... : roushimsx
• really should be called something else, and have 8 players, like what i said last time,. zombies 8 my fri... : CoRDS
• I feel a rehash coming on. But it's hard to doubt valve. : kingdepork
• I'm not too excited. I will probably put out a Macho Man patch for it, though. : guido anchovy
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  The first game had no potential the characters were boring, they had explored all possible options with t... : abrasion
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    maybe it's because I'm drunk but this post makes zero sense to me. I think you're missing some commas...a... : mysled
    • I'm extremely confused by this post as well : Dontdrop
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      I just woke up, TLDR: Fuck Valve. : abrasion
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        wha? i thought your post was applauding valve : Poooks
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          abrasion only likes Sony and WinXP. : cltcprd
          • and twinkines. : abrasion
        • It was sarcasm, http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20057225 : abrasion
      • abrasion :( : Milleh
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    u are making me stupider : kn1fe
    • This is difficult to do :( : abrasion
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  Valve seems to have found many unique and special ways to anger fans lately... just saying... : melt_core
  • People are just idiots. I guarantee everyone complaining in this thread buy shiity games by the bucketloa... : aeg1x
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    A fan base that is indifferent, is not really a fan base. : byorn
    • We're angry because we love! : crummynz
    • http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indifference : melt_core
• I will buy any game that has Ajax in it : mikecyb
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  I'm pretty pissed. I bought L4D full price, and I think it should have been priced the same as things lik... : Mr. Goodwrench
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    I just looked at my game time clock and I've played it for 89 hours. How many hours have you played? : WhatIsThisFor
    • 100 but I hated EVERY MINUTE of it OK!! >:( : crummynz
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      22. And i'm bored already. : Mr. Goodwrench
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        Do you not think that 22 hours is a pretty decent amount of content for $50? : WhatIsThisFor
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          I don't think you should judge a game based on hours played, especially a multiplayer game. It's more com... : Modulus
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            In general, I agree, but at some point I think hours overwhelmingly play into the value you got out of th... : WhatIsThisFor
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              Would you pay $50 for minesweeper or solitaire? Perceived value is complicated and varies from person to... : Modulus
              • Of course not, I'm just trying to figure out why he doesn't think it's worth the normal admission fee. : WhatIsThisFor
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          It was a lot more than that in the UK. At the current rate of conversion, coupled with Steam being a c... : Mr. Goodwrench
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            why not have someone in the states gift it to you? : hirez
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              I don't know anyone in the states? : Mr. Goodwrench
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                you know a bunch of shackers that are. I've done this for other non-US shackers. : hirez
                • Honestly, I've never thought to ask. L4D is the only game I use Steam for, so I don't know much about ... : Mr. Goodwrench
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          That's like saying something like Flight Control should be worth a full $50 just because you sink a lot o... : ieGod
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            That's not really the point I was trying to make. He didn't do a great job of articulating why it was no... : WhatIsThisFor
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              It alters the equation because Valve has set a precedent with previous titles (including L4D I might add)... : ieGod
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                Valve has always been clear about their support for TF2 as a "service", they've never said this about any... : WhatIsThisFor
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                  I think people put their trust in Valve. When people saw that L4D only had a handful of levels yet was a ... : Modulus
                  • I will admit that I expected one or two extra campaigns from them but after putting so much time into the... : WhatIsThisFor
          • This guy stated it perfectly : Mr. Goodwrench
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            It feels like a mod, it plays like a mod, and worst of all it doesn't even have the polish and scope of s : slickdoody
            • Because it's incredibly fun? I won't stop playing L4D until L4D2 comes out. Aside from WoW, it's the only... : Vincent Grayson
            • Left 4 Dead is amazingly well polished. WTF are you guys on?! It is an incredible game. : Rice-Rocketeer
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        I don't like this game! And I'm mad that they're releasing a sequel to a game I don't like! : bipolar
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          You put words into my e-mouth that I never said. I'm annoyed that this game hasn't recieved more conte... : Mr. Goodwrench
          • received* I always spell that shit wrong. : Mr. Goodwrench
          • Since coming out they've added a new gameplay mode (play as infected) and new vs. campaigns. It's not TF... : bipolar
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  Bend over and enjoy it, loyal Valve customers. LOL. : LemonJoose
  • LOL : Godhatesfatpeople
• Left 4 Dead is the first episodic thing Valve has actually done. Each movie could literally be an episod... : Judecca
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  what happens if someone uses the mod tools to recreate these maps and weapons in Left 4 Dead 1? : spiderfill
  • Gaben comes to their house and eats them : bipolar
  • L4D1 mods will work with L4D2 mods: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01/left-4-dead-2-exclusive-po... : kallanta
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  i was kinda excited when reading that article on rockpapershotgun but after watching the videos it looks ... : Unleashed
  • not 20 but 30-40. 40 seems pushing it :s : Unleashed
• Random thought: Given that they're announcing L4D2 right now, that really kind of makes it cooler that th... : geedeck
• I'm quite glad that they're releasing another game, and I'll happily pay another $50 for it. The price of... : Crimson

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  7zip is what you should use You are thinking winace I think : melkore
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    You mean JZip, not 7zip. : arhughes
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      That improvements are there in JZip over 7-Zip? : deject
      • oh it seems it's just the interface? fuck that I never really use the interface. I almost always just u... : deject
  • 7-zip cause problems with explorer in windows 7 for me : tested2
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  winrar? : pukerat
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    not free but fully worth whatever i paid for it back in like 1999 :) : cpt_gloval
    • i've never paid for winrar and just suffer through the popup when I use it :( : pukerat
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  Can I ask a serious question that sounds like an accusation but isn't? Where do you guys get RAR files f... : electroly
  • i create them for the most part : cpt_gloval
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    I'm d/l some source code for a plugin, and it's in rar format. : Slowtreme
    • I get random things once in a while as well, not sure why some people choose one over the other. : stonedonkey
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    it's a convenient way to divide big files into a few compressed archives to easily send over e-mail. : melt_core
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      But why RAR specifically? ZIP has supported this for 20 years and is supported everywhere without third ... : electroly
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        i know a lot of people use winrar, and that's the default format using that app (even though it also supp... : cpt_gloval
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          I guess ZIP seems like the obvious choice to me because both Windows and OSX handle it by default, withou... : electroly
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            keep it down before toraz pwns your face with 7zip : Downforce
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              plus rar rules shut your trap electroly!@ : cpt_gloval
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                I'm making no judgements about the relative quality of the compression algorithms :) I'm sure RAR is an ... : electroly
                • electroly - your doubts about winrar have caused me great fury and now i have more dry-wall to patch up..... : PlanetPerfecto
                • i like WinRar's document icon too. : cpt_gloval
                • Because nerds are software pirates who back in the day lurked on binaries and snagged all 151 .rar files ... : dedgecko
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              I don't need to pwn his face with 7zip, because 7zip makes his face occupy 1/4th the space without any as... : Toraz Chryx
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              Compatibility > * ZIP is compatible with practically everything that anyone would care about, unlike RAR... : Arcanum
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                are you saying there is a platform out there that doesn't have a rar/unrar application but does have zip? : Slowtreme
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                  It's not that there isn't a program out there that will do it, but ZIP has built-in support in every majo... : electroly
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                    Also, the company that makes RAR seems to make slight changes in their format regularly. As a result, if... : Arcanum
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                      can't say I've ever heard of this, but it's possible. : Slowtreme
                      • it happens but only rarely : datoo
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                        The RAR3 format -- the most recent and most common version -- is incompatible with previous versions. Mo... : electroly
                        • then it's not the most common because I havent installed Winrar in at least 6 years. : Slowtreme
                  • and as ubiquitous as it may be, I never use the built in app for zip, because while it may do a fine job ... : Slowtreme
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        You can split a single file into multiple .zip files? That's news to me. : action roommate
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          I've been doing it since PKZIP.EXE on my old 386. It definitely can. : electroly
          • (Back when it was used to split over multiple floppy disks) : electroly
          • pkz204g.exe'd : cpt_gloval
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          I don't believe you can split directories or files in zip, at least not in my copy of winrar. Rar format : PlanetPerfecto
          • I stand corrected re: zip splitting- just read electroly's post above - i havent used PKZIP in 10yrs! tal... : PlanetPerfecto
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            Perhaps WinRAR doesn't support it, but the ZIP format (and PKZIP and WinZip) has always supported splitti... : electroly
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              today was the day you became my true shack-nemesis. :D : PlanetPerfecto
              • :-) : electroly
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        I believe that rar files compress better than zip files. Microsoft CAB files also compress better than z... : capt tripps
        • the typical case is better comp ratio, slower performance. : cpt_gloval
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          ^^^ this. RAR files have better compression ratios than ZIP. And for some things that's more important th... : Schnapple
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            My point was that casual usage -- the type of stuff Shackers would be dealing with every day -- is not on... : electroly
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              I also get lots of stuff on news servers that is in RAR. I just haven't been doing much since I reloaded ... : Slowtreme
              • I don't think ZIP supports parity files unless it was added very recently (doubt it). I can see that as ... : electroly
        • This for me. Started using rar files years back due to better compression. But tbh I just use them out of... : mactu
      • from the winrar FAQ: Compared to the ZIP 2.0 standard file format, RAR provides a number of advanced f : dopeman
  • even microsoft releases stuff via winrar nowadays : filthysock
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    I've worked with several companies that standardized on RAR. It was a natural progression since they bou... : Halen
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      that was exactly the thought process that led me to purchase Winrar those 10 years ago. i really just use... : cpt_gloval
      • I picked up a free copy a couple of years ago when they were giving it away. It was a HUGE PITA getting ... : capt tripps
    • When dealing with gihugic database .ARC files up at work, we use .RAR to compress them. They shrink from... : Scotty22
  • I used to nab various builds of MAME that'd be bundled in RAR format a while back, but anymore everything... : roushimsx
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    I use them for all solid models and cad that I send to customers since it seems to compress 10X's better ... : Werkin
    • 10X might be a little exageration but 10% is realistic important in some cases : johnlocks
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    zip files have a 4GB file size limit (can't compress files larger than that). : factor27
    • This seems like a legitimate reason to not use ZIP. Is this limit only for the individual files inside t... : electroly
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    linux isos... wait, what? : OrkO
    • RARs and PARs? WTF? : obiquatro
  • We used to create RAR files for compressed database backups, until 7zip came along. : Ride-My-Rocket
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  it's not 7zip winace or winrar actually, I had it installed before and it only did rar. but I liked it an... : Slowtreme
  • Maybe TugZip? This page lists the apps with the icons: http://www.filehippo.com/software/compression/... : Matt Burris
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    are you talking about smartpar? for Par files? : burning eye
    • Maybe that's what I was thinking of. Also PAR is a big reason to distribute in rar over zip : Slowtreme
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  Why are they called ZIP files? You don't zip things to make them smaller do you? : trove
  • Ah, The name "zip" (meaning "speed") was suggested by Katz's friend, Robert Mahoney. They wanted to im : trove
• I misreplied earlier about this and forgot to post in this thread: Unarchiver may be what you're thinkin... : sKetchflow
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  ARJ for life. great story about ARJ vs Zip in the BBS documentary : dignan
  • wow totally forgot about arj : podizzle

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  i'm at the same spot with Infamous : cpt_gloval
  • I had a lot of fun with it, but nowhere NEAR $400-fun : byorn
  • yeah :( : derelict515
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    when newegg delivers it, come on over and check it out :D : Downforce
    • post tracking # pls : cpt_gloval
  • I got it, it's ok, but not a system selling game. This is probably my first impulse game buy this year. I... : Sailor of Fortune
  • inFamous is a lot of fun but unless you have other reasons you want to buy a PS3 I wouldn't say it's wor... : Begawkiness
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  Sony press conference tomorrow. Price drop, perhaps! : Cihte
  • If there's a price drop I'll definitely be getting one : mr.sleepy
  • I hope so. :( I loves me some Wipeout. : halophoenix
  • Yeah, I stopped some dude from buying a PS3 last night in Walmart, and told him to wait a week and the pr... : WadeMcLain
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  There is not one game that can justify $400. If there are several, then it is worth considering. : byorn
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    Wipeout HD justifies $400 if not more : mr.sleepy
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      i still think it's a shitty f-zero but am going to retry it since you fags seem to think it's awesome : [fry]
      • It's simply not the same. The feel, atmosphere, it's all difference. The only similarity is TEH FUTARE (a... : Fayk
      • you take that back. : Modica Sol Solis
      • I'll back you up; i cant see why its so great. I would rather play F-Zero as well... : SigENeaT
      • that's ironic because I think f-zero is a shitty wipeout (yes, I know it came out first) : freakord
• Keep an eye out for a good deal. I got mine from Dell for $300. :) : Frank_Mackey
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  Don't forget God of War 3 is coming out. Once that does I'll be getting one. There are enough games ou... : catman1027
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    Not coming out till early 2010 (probably march like the previous god of war titles). : dedgecko
    • Yeah that's what I heard. Still going to wait till then to get a PS3. Not to mention by then most of th... : catman1027
• redesigned slim ps3 with a price drop come on lets see it tomorrow : Mr.SEX
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  New Katamari in HD, son! : roushimsx
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    When is that coming out? I remember seeing screens and a video a while back, but no release date. : Vincent Grayson
    • Jul 23rd in Japan jpn: http://www.play-asia.com/paOS-13-71-bp-49-en-70-3dkq.html asian: http://www.play... : roushimsx
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    i wonder how that'll be. i loved the first one, and i definitely had fun wtih We Love katamari. Hope this... : mindmann
    • IIRC, it's a bunch of stuff from the first two games, plus new levels. : Vincent Grayson
  • Katamari is damn good fun. : hirosushima
  • Oh sweet, that will look gorgeous. : Snuffles-
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  How does the price of the PS3 compare to a 360 after you add the stuff that comes withe the PS3, excludin... : capt tripps
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    So what comes with it? Video cables? (Both consoles are shitty in that department, actually) : Fayk
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      The PS3 doesn't come with HDMI cables (which is dumb), the 360 doesn't come with wireless (also dumb, and... : Vincent Grayson
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        HD cables are also more essential than wireless : derelict515
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          That depends on how much you want to use Live, which is a huge seller for the 360. Unless you have an eth... : roushimsx
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            No HD cables: you're not getting HD games or movies, a big selling point for each system. No wireless: yo... : derelict515
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              You can get a cheap hdmi cable online just like you can get a cheap, long ethernet cable. Or you can go t... : roushimsx
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                The point is the out of box experience. The 360 let's you get online and get your HD gaming. The PS3 does... : derelict515
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                  The point is that out of the box, the 360 does not allow many people to get online because it does not su... : roushimsx
                  • The overwhelming majority of people out there don't have wirless. And the system does come with an ethern... : bozer
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                    ok, let's be reasonable here - the ps3 wireless is wonky at best, and for those who NEED wireless, there ... : Milleh
                    • And this solution is pretty much great for the PS3 as well. In fact, it be used for both. Two birds! : Sailor of Fortune
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                  Unless you don't have a long ethernet cable, or the system is in a room nowhere near you internet connect... : Vincent Grayson
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                    You can install the x360 in a place that has Ethernet access if your living room isn't already equipped (... : DarkWolf5
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                      Even if every room is equipped, the cable modem and router and everything else, in my case, are in my roo... : Vincent Grayson
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                        Well if we are talking about personal experience, out of the box it took me a few hours to download 200 ... : DarkWolf5
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                          Yeah, the firmware updates on PS3 are always ungodly slow. I don't understand why. : Vincent Grayson
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                            Because of the wireless. They are very fast for me with an ethernet cable. : razlebol
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                              But it's *ALWAYS* slow. Even when I can download games at a reasonable speed, and even when the update is... : Vincent Grayson
                              • Use ethernet. It will be faster. : razlebol
                            • *ding* *ding* *ding* Once hooked up to my bridge, speed problems went away. : DarkWolf5
        • Also much cheaper. $100 wireless still blows my mind. : Vincent Grayson
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          They're also a lot cheaper. $7 vs. $50+ Also, the 360 Arcade doesn't come with HD cables. : Frank_Mackey
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            it still has the comp. cables right? : WadeMcLain
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              Component and composite all in one. PS3 is composite all the way. At least it works with PS2 components. : Sailor of Fortune
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                360 Arcade only comes with composite cables. : Frank_Mackey
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                  http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/compare101.htm : Frank_Mackey
                  • oh that's lame. I only got the Pro and Elite and I thought the hybrid cable was a cool gig. : Sailor of Fortune
  • It's not really a comparison that necessarily matters. If I decide the hype for Prototype is too much and... : derelict515
• I'll think about it once it gets to 200$ and I have a few games to choose from. Right now all i'm excit... : jonin
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  I did. I paid $400 for one game. I didn't even want a blu-ray player. And you know what? Wipeout was wort... : haiku
  • the PSN titles combined with littlebigplanet was enough for me. : hirosushima
  • Did they say how much Fury will cost? Not that it matters because it will be got regardless, but they onc... : pyide
  • haiku make Trico come out now! : Snuffles-
  • I still haven't bought LBP and I don't know why. : gmd
• i'm so sick of seeing these posts, there are many many other games you'd want to play. : jayares
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  Anyone buying a PS3 in the next 3 days is retarded, at least wait and see. : abrasion
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    Hell, buying any system right around E3 is pretty stupid. : Vincent Grayson
    • Damn straight : abrasion
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      most stores have a 30 day price guarantee. : DarkWolf5
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        Will they honor that if Sony releases a new PS3 model/bundle at a lower/same price? : Prozium
        • Sony is going to clear the old stock without a doubt. Even then most electronic stores also have a 30 day... : DarkWolf5
        • You can always return the one you bought and exchange it. : razlebol
    • well, to be honest, a lot of people probably didn't know it was coming up. i didn't until about a week ag... : mindmann
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    Is there anything left for them to rip out of the system? : capt tripps
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      No :/ only 2 USB, wifi is cheap, HDD mandatory, blu ray mandatory. : abrasion
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        They can take away dual shock. again : DarkWolf5
        • LOL :( : abrasion
        • Not worth it. Dual Shock is great and it only shaves, what, $15 off the price? Max? : Ebu
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  I suck at Wipeout. I wish I could get good at cornering. I suck at all racing games other than Burnout Pa... : Shai-Tan
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    With Wipeout it's all about using the airbrakes. You have to start to turn and apply the airbrake releava... : Mr. Goodwrench
    • i get the concept, it just seems like I'm always bouncing off the walls. I've been practicing getting the... : Shai-Tan
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  I'm the same. I really don't want a PS3, cos my PC rocks so much more, but I really have to play Wipeout ... : Mr. Goodwrench
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    "I really don't want a PS3, cos my PC rocks so much more" I could imagine someone saying that about th... : Shai-Tan
    • My point is that if I want to play the majority of truly great games, that's what I have my PC for. Even ... : Mr. Goodwrench
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      What he said. I have a PC, but the PS3 really is a different experience. Especially if you want some 2pla... : gibolas1234
      • is the PS3 actually that much better than the 360 for split screen 2 player action? : mindmann
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    Rez HD is on XBLA, is it on PSN as well? : derelict515
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      I don't know, I only keep track of fun games No : Ebu
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        ^^^ Sup best friend : roushimsx
        • Overhyped, overpriced, over...somethinged : Ebu
  • Just wait until tomorrow, you will want a PS3 so bad your cock will hurt. : abrasion
• split one with me mr. sleepy : boomstickah

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  I was wondering what was going to happen with the mod scene now. I mean, sure you could continue working,... : scottythejock
  • They may as well just completely scrap L4D 1, Microsoft Xbox 1 style - it's become a complete clusterfuck... : abrasion
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    I've already read somewhere that L4D maps will work just fine in L4D2. : Vincent Grayson
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      I think it has more to do with paying another $50 for a game that while fun hasn't been expanded upon ade... : peat
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        I think that's a case of ridiculous expectations. I enjoyed L4D for what it was, the extra content was ni... : brickmatt
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          what extra content? you mean enabling the boring multiplayer in two already included maps? : grendel
          • versus multiplayer, that is : grendel
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            Survival mode with new maps? New Vs maps? IF you hate multiplayer in a multiplayer game, I'm not sure wha... : brickmatt
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              you mean the existing 4 maps they already had and then adding in a single stage at the lighthouse. VS map... : peat
              • Yes, because maps are the only measure of new content! Scripting and balancing and everything else just f... : brickmatt
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          why do they have to make an entirely new game a year later though? the first game still has plenty of con... : peat
          • Maybe it's to reach their console audience because Microsoft is making that difficult? Maybe it's because... : brickmatt
        • But Valve isn't being awesome enough, can't we get angry at them for that? : locater16
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        Who said it's going to cost another $50? Link please? : Bamtan
        • i'm just saying they are marketing it as a new game, $50 is the norm : peat
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        you guys are getting spoiled : das_runt
        • This is so true. : NastyJack
        • I paid full price for this game on 360, and half price on PC, because of Valve's track record of supporti... : SenorSpine
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  On one hand I do think it's too soon, on the other I have played L4D so much I am getting sick of the cur... : pyide
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    I like the potential backstory of L4D and the characters, they seemed really well thought out - especiall... : abrasion
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      Prequels always suck so they're taking that mentality and approach and starting fresh. : brickmatt
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        Did you not find the 4 chars in L4D interesting though? Also the 4 L4D campaigns used to actually tie in ... : abrasion
        • No they're boring and cliche, that's the point! : brickmatt
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  I seriously don't understand this, especially after looking at the gameplay videos. There's nothing new, ... : FiReaNG3L
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    There is a lot new, read the rps writeup : aeg1x
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      link? : NastyJack
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        http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01/left-4-dead-2-exclusive-rps-preview/#more-12370 Sounds fro... : Felraiser
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          But... new characters, new story, new levels, new weapons, melee weapons, new infected, new setting, dayl... : NastyJack
          • Right, that's what I'm noting - this is going to be a much bigger game than the original, and more even a... : Felraiser
        • where are the graphics different? they can only do so much with the source engine : peat
    • Did you see the gameplay vids? Its the SAME game. : FiReaNG3L
  • seriously it looks like opposing force. could be a great game with new characters but there's nothing the... : peat
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  They need single player missions for the backstories. You play through the first few hours of the outbrea... : Modulus
  • that would be a fun DLC : das_runt
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    That would actually be pretty amazing. And maybe you only meet up with one other person and then the next... : pyide
    • This could also open it up to a 2v2 versus mode and other neat stuff. Probably won't happen unless a modd... : pyide
• Were there anymore details released with the trailer besides the date? Be interesting to see what Valve ... : norulez
• I was hoping for 4 more characters that are new and can be added to the existing roster to be mixed and m... : Sailor of Fortune
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  I read this post in that stewie tone where it just keeps getting more and more high pitched... : braaains
  • Not enough excalamation marks. : abrasion
• well we know the back story for Zoey where she blows the hunter : prime8
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  I get the feeling Microsoft might have paid Valve a ton a money to push this out quickly as a PR move. J... : Thomas Hace
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    IT'S A CONSPIRACY! EVIL MICRO$$$$SOFT PAID VALVE,YEAH. : taronish
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      it wouldn't really be that unreasonable, and I'm certainly not in the M$ writing camp. O.o : Thomas Hace
      • actually i'm pretty sure it would be unreasonable : crummynz
  • er...i'd go with EA since they funded the advertising/console version of the game. : deathofrats
• My question is, is the game going to be complete on release this time around? : Arcanum
• My question is, is the game going to be complete on release this time around? : Arcanum
• This should just be a map pack or something. I love L4D, but I'm tired of the same campaigns. Everyone ha... : prime8
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  It's really bizarre to see them releasing a sequel so soon. And if they've only had this long to develop... : S1ing B1ade
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    They dropped the ball with L4D IMO. Only two campaigns for versus (arguably the most compelling game mod... : Arcanum
    • Well really by releasing it this soon Valve is basically saying, "Hey look we can easily crank out conten... : S1ing B1ade
• Hot tip: All L4D1 mods will be compatible with L4D2: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/01/left-4... : kallanta
• don't worry! this is valve we're talking about it, we won't see it for another year or so anyway : crummynz

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  On this subject: we need more series with GoW as an abbreviation. : azenmaster
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    There's the original GoW and then there's Gears, it's pretty easy. : abrasion
    • http://www.google.ca/search?q=GoW I'm just saying there should be more man : azenmaster
  • Goatse of War, Gonads of War, Goombas of War. : LemonJoose
• thanx : Luminair
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  GoW3 was rumoured for 2010 anyhow, apparently 1 and 2 were both in Feb or something when they come out an... : abrasion
  • The first and second games came out in March if I recall correctly. The first one might have been in Apr... : sevogajre
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    This will be better so I can give it more of my time anyway. : Begawkiness
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      Exactly, look how mind blowingly awesome GTA4 was. : abrasion
      • Well.... I didn't like GTA4 all that much compared to past iterations, but that's besides the point. It... : Begawkiness
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  I thought it was known that God of War would probably be an early 2010 release, maybe March or April? : Begawkiness
  • I had been hearing this holiday, but hey... either way, it's 2010 now. :) : MorrisatCNN
• Cheers, Morris! : PlanetPerfecto
• I must have latent Up memories kicking around in my brain because suddenly it's really dusty in here :( : Deathlove
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  What is the abbreviation for the hypothetic Gears of War 3 game? : melt_core
  • Gears3 MS will probably pimp the Gears2 expansion this year though : MrLobo
  • Its going to be GoW3 probably : Jackass1233
  • Gears3, GoW3 has been announced by Sony. : abrasion
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  Paul McCartney is demoing a Harmonix game? : evildanish
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    We'll probably get Ringo. :( : smackpiece
    • Ringo-lo Tornado, the tasty BBQ treat game now available for the Wii! : melt_core
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  Holy shit God of War 3 slipping to 2010 is unforgiveable. Gran Turismo 5 slipping to 2010 is unforgiveab... : grendel
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    They have a heap of shit which will prop them up - also NOC about GT5 anymore - it's no longer a system s... : abrasion
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      The last part of that comment is pretty funny to me. It's still a AAA game. The series is one of the most... : sigpro
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        Dood, it's an abrasion post. : mancide
        • Trust me I know. : sigpro
        • WHAT AN AWESOME RESPONSE : abrasion
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        Does that genre really sell that well? Like 5+mil or is it just another big game (~2mil)? : derelict515
        • I think Forza 2 sold close to 4 million worldwide. : Evil Benius
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          Gran Turismo 3 - 7.13 million sold in the US Gran Turismo 4 - 2.9 million sold in the US Gran Turismo 5... : sigpro
          • Wow, Gran Turismo 2 sold 9.37 million copies and is the lowest-selling numbered sequel. : pyrogen
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            So it definitely is dropping off, and those big numbers in previous iterations were done with a much much... : derelict515
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              It's dropping off in the US (I think forza has a large part to do with that), but 2 million copies of GT5... : sigpro
              • i am a gt fan and i wouldn't buy prologue, but i'll definitely pick up gt5 : Mr.SEX
              • think more people bought that once they quickly realized that it will be the only gran turismo anyone pla... : -=kodiak=-
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    UNFORGIVABLE! I NEED MY chocolate milk TOYS NOW YOU SACKS OF SHIT! : walker270
    • hahahahaha, pretty much. : MagicWishMonkey
    • fuck you walker. : grendel
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    I would say that delaying beats the shit out of shipping an unfinished product like so many studio's do. ... : InfoBiter
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      ^^ This is what's wrong with Americans today! You're complacent. This sort of abuse is UNFORGIVABLE! W... : walker270
      • the point is that this news undercuts any exciting announcements they might have before they even make th... : grendel
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      How about they finish the product on time instead? It's not like game development is some black myster... : uncleanmonkey
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        No, not when 2009 has already been a great year for the PS3. The way you make 2010 sound, 2009 was aweso... : AndyGoin
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          ^^ This is a response to Grendel. To uncleanmonkey, what has been delayed "massively"? The release da... : AndyGoin
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            Sony's 2 hour E3 press conference can be shortened to this: "All our good games come out next year, goodb... : grendel
            • ? To you maybe. There's still Uncharted 2 to come. Killzone 2, Infamous, and Uncharted 2 all within on... : AndyGoin
          • Well I'm assuming that the studios didn't just take a year off to masturbate but actually started work on... : uncleanmonkey
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        I can't tell if this is sarcasm, or another one of your "I'm a 19 year old college student and this is th... : walker270
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          Uh, I'm a 28 year old game developer, and I'm speaking from knowing how the game industry works. We h... : uncleanmonkey
          • NOTHING HAS "SLIPPED". (Thanks, Morris.) Sony has never officially announced any dates for GoW nor ... : AndyGoin
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            Yes, you have schedules, but schedules aren't always feasible. They're also less likely to be feasible o... : walker270
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              He was addressing infobiter's post which already assumed a delay. If the developer has missed their own d... : ieGod
              • Still, you can't account for everything. Size of tasks are poorly estimated, and personnel issues come a... : walker270
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    Mark my work UNFORGIVABLE! is the shackmeme of 2009 Q2 : boring gegtik
    • "Mark my work" ? This sort of blatant typo is UNFORGIVABLE! : walker270
  • Not to fear, this is the Year of the Playstation! Just like it was every year before. : Sailor of Fortune
  • GoW3 didn't "slip", that's a fairly bad choice of words as Sony never announced it for 2009. The media an... : AndyGoin
  • You should be used to constant Gran Turismo delays by now. : silent prophet
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  Microsoft better announce Gears of War 3: Cole Edition : pancake humper
  • COLE TRAIN! WOOOO! he's my favorite character and I always yell this when I play multiplayer : ArcKnight
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  If I ran Sony I would straight up fire each and everyone at Polyphony Digital. : ThomW
  • They need more time to get the rebounding off the side walls and opponents right... and I think their ma : Lunatic Angelic
• Haha I guess 2010 will be the year of the PS3 guys! : crazywigga

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• not that Forza couldnt be improved...but its hard to see what could be done to a racing game to make it m... : spiderfill
• I'm not a racing game fan. But those Forza 3 shots are stunning. I just could never get into racers. I fi... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Sony really dropped the ball on the GT5 front. Having such a high profile exclusive and letting it slip ... : obiquatro
  • I agree, if GT5 was out now and GTA4 was out earlier and Sony exclusive, this fight would be vastly diffe... : abrasion
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  So does that make GT5 the new DNF? Yes, I said it. : supertech68
  • I was considering putting that in my post: Gran Turismo 5-Ever : obiquatro
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  for the love of puppies and xmas abrasion do NOT buy a 360 : Dave-A
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    I've already owned one, disliked it and sold it - I can buy one, use it purely as a Forza box and sell it... : abrasion
    • don't forget to buy the Ms wheel : CoRDS
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      Forza w/out live? That's about 90% retarded. : cltcprd
      • Fuck that, it's 100% FULL FUCKING RETARDED. : sigpro
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        Why? The SP game is fun, that's what I'm getting it for - I won't pay for live and I won't pay for some c... : abrasion
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          lol you won't get live because you can't have your username? WOW : cltcprd
          • Do we have to go into this, I'll be playing and enjoying it in SP mode - also it's not just about a usern... : abrasion
        • I don't think you understand, Forza isn't like GT4, it gets multiplayer right and you are penalized 4/5 t : Lunatic Angelic
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  I love how completely oblivious Japanese developers are to the outside world. Little do they know the gam... : jayacheess
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    EXACTLY, When Shane said it on the 1up podcast I was flabberghasted - they basically said "LOL Forza" yet... : abrasion
    • GT5 has damage physics. : lodit
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  I'm not so sure I like that they put such an emphasis on the fact that there were tracks where the cars g... : boarder2
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    http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-forza-motorsports/50003 This does NOT instill confidence. : boarder2
    • I'm not even a big fan of sim racers, but my response to that is 'WTF?' : gimpi
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      You have seen what people did in Forza 2 with drifting videos right? : sigpro
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        Here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYHLQ9eVVrk The whole point of that preview was to show what is... : sigpro
        • Also this is the full video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAKxsHe8l0g : sigpro
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          Yes, I have, however the difference between the video you posted and the video I posted is that the cars ... : boarder2
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            which part of the forza 3 video does not respect the laws of physics? : cltcprd
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              and if you think it's not going to be a sim, you don't know anything about Turn 10. Those guys are hard ... : cltcprd
              • Pretty much. I have no reason to doubt Turn 10. They make fantastic games and are totally obsessed about ... : tashtego
    • haha, that's pretty sweet : Marauder IIC
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      The original Forza 2 teasers had screwy physics, I'm willing to grace them the idea that they did that F3 : Lunatic Angelic
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        Remember the Forza 2 demo physics and the full game? IIRC they changed them drastically. : abrasion
        • The demo was the arcade mode not the single player career mode with assists off. : sigpro
      • Fair enough, I don't doubt that it'll be great. Hope so anyway. : boarder2
  • If it goes the way of PGR, I'm going to agree, that would be dumb - this is their GT competitor. : abrasion
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  you want crackdown : CoRDS
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    Played it on my old 360, did nothing for me. : abrasion
    • this is not open to discussion : CoRDS
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  and the PSP version has been in development so long that when it was first announced it was going to be G... : flooq
  • lol : opengl128
  • It was supposed to be a launch title for the PSP. Now we're on the fourth incarnation of that device and ... : BlackCat9
  • I know, sad isn't it? : abrasion
  • http://www.gamerstyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gran_turismo_mobile.jpg So much funny in one imag... : Judecca
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  GT5 will be shown tomorrow and you will SHIT BRICKS : gmd
  • ...will make you his bitch : hankyJR
  • Shown? ok. Released? : obiquatro
  • unlikely, well when it comes to brickshitting. : Turd Ferguson
  • It's STILL after Forza, why should I wait for GT5? seriously. : abrasion