Morning Discussion
Alas, $50 is not an amount to casually drop on something I may like, nor even $20. I want to know more--the genre, the developer's track record, how stable it is, whether it performs well... by which point, I've accidentally learnt everything about the game anyway. Besides, most games operate in the same way, so it's unlikely I'd be surprised anyway. There are plot spoilers but video game plots are, by and large, to be ignored and avoided as much as possible lest your brain dribble out of your ears.
When video game surprises do come along, though, gosh it's lovely.
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Wednesday Morning Minecraft Thread!
No Screw Ups Edition!!!
oh god oh god I missed something somewhere I know it
Multiplayer Servers!
MercFox1 : mercfox1.sytes.net / se.shkn.ws / shackeast.shkn.ws
foo1 (PvE/ moderated PvP): foo1.sytes.net / foo1.shkn.ws / 216.139.192.52 / richcunts.sytes.net
Shadowdane (PvE) : shadowdane.shacknet.nu / sd.shkn.ws / shadowdane.shkn.ws
m0rfus (Full PvP) : morfus.dyndns.org / morfus.shkn.ws
Haxim (TNT) : asplode.dyndns.org / haxim.shkn.ws
Teamspeak : ts.shackbattles.com:9987
I know it-
Server Renders!
MercFox1
Angle: http://foo1.shkn.ws/~djr/mc/gmap/
foo1
Angled: http://216.139.192.52/~djr/mc/gmap/
Bird’s Eye View: http://foo1.shkn.ws/~djr/mc/render.png
Shadowdane
(updated every hour!)
Night-time Oblique: http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/ShackDC-Night-Current.png
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Guides and Utilities
- Oizomapper! Map your single player or multiplayer levels! By mroizo40
http://www.digitized-e.com/mroizo/OizoMapper.zip
- Shackwiki Minecraft page!
http://shackwiki.com/wiki/Minecraft
Video Guides!
- (Series) X's Adventures in Minecraft! Linked by zuff!
http://tinyurl.com/2ah7sex
Lots of useful info in here!
- (Series) Minecraft Minecart Tutorials! Boosters! Track switches! Et cetera!
http://tinyurl.com/2udl2lt
- Water Physics Tutorial by Arctic Fox!
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24127669#itemanchor_24127669
Written Guides!
- Beginner’s Guides to Minecraft, originally linked by at0micgarden!
(Work in Progress) Guide to Alpha: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=17021
How to Survive Your First Night: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=19065
Shacker Help!
- Things I Wish I’d Known, a retrospective by Ebu!
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23608826#itemanchor_23608826
- Linkmania! By zuff!
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23514788#itemanchor_23514788
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23533536#itemanchor_23533536
- Ores, and How to Find Them, by Fooldozer and CodeRedBeard!
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23582115#itemanchor_23582115
- Multiplayer Tips from BlackCat9
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23641449#itemanchor_23641449
- Circle guides! More useful than they sound!
http://www.agentpothead.com/minecraft/sphere.html linked/hosted by AgentPothead!
http://www.shackpics.com/files/radii_even_to_100_pgzh2n77iabkgcmee93q.png hosted by Arctic Fox!
- Beginner’s Guide to Redstone, links by The Grolar Bear!
http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24044649#itemanchor_24044649
- And some generally useful keys to press!
F11 - full screen!
F3 (hold) - CPU/ memory usage bar! Spikes for CPU/ red box for memory, I think!
F5 - third person mode! -
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I was climbing up a ladder to put some loot in our chest room, and what do I see? A creeper just hanging out!
http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=20101208_071023_hp2zsqpaeic3immn98qi.png -
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http://notch.tumblr.com/
Server-side inventory and websites
I’ve been working on server-side inventory, but progress has been slow and agonizing, mostly due to the first version of inventory just being a GUI hack. I got almost nothing done yesterday, but today I will roll up my sleeves and just dig in. The first step will be to commit everything to our brand new version control system (git), the second step will be to start screaming out loud (“aaaaaaaaa!!â€) and just start typing code randomly. That should do it.
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1) Take a step back. Think about days where you have done what you feel to be a ton of work, but an outsider/boss/layperson wouldn't recognise that because you've basically just replaced infrastructure that 'already worked', but poorly. Now it works far better. Every job has things like this.
2) In the past month, he's added server-side damage, done FIVE bugfixes, and is now working on server-side inventory. I'm not sure entirely what you want here.-
Exactly! It might not sound like a lot of work to some of us because we aren't sitting there seeing what he's working on each day. But how busy does your average person's work day sound when you sum it up in a sentence or two? It's a dangerous thing to assume you know what's going on in a place you've never been, with a person you've never met, doing a job you have never had.
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I'm a big critic of the way Notch is handling some things, but I'm not going to complain about his dedication to the code at this point in time. It's looking like he's going to hit Beta by year end, which should hopefully solve one of my problems with Notch -- his attitude to us all as alpha testers.
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You mean typing code randomly doesn't impress you?!?
Heh.
I know what you mean, but it's kinda late now. He's done interviews, etc, so he's become 'the face of Minecraft'.
Gee, since it started as a one-man operation (right?), I don't know who else you'd pick. I guess it'd be nice if he did more coding, but all this other stuff gets in the way. -
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Well... I can't speak for everybody else but in my case... I've heard a lot of negative stuff lately towards notch... but honestly I don't feel he deserves it lately. Around the time of the Halloween patch there he was making a lot of bad choices and releasing some really buggy updates etc. But lately he's been pushing out the updates and getting some good stuff done. For a while there I could understand the negative feedback... but he's seems to be doing good work lately... and I feel the need to defend the guy when he's on a roll. :)
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There are economy and quest mods.
I'm trying out this server, see what the economy is like: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1014&t=89553
The mod (iConomy) just uses 'coins' as currency, but someone made one that uses gold as currency, I think that'd be cool. -
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Also, he is often most productive on the days when he twitters a lot. I think he does his work in spurts then takes a quick break to tweet. And just goes back and forth between the two. I don't follow his twitter as closely as I did a couple months ago... but on the days of his big patches etc... he would tweet like crazy. I think it's just how he blows off steam.
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Or you get days like the one I had yesterday, where every time you're about to start something brilliant someone comes and knocks on your door and distracts you. Then they leave and you think "Finally. Alright, quick check of the Shack/Twitter/Facebook/whatever and then back to work." Then you start work and someone else knocks on your door again, and the cycle repeats...
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It's a serious issue for me in a building with a cubicle system and 2,000+ IS/IT people. A LOT of people like to walk around, drink coffee and TALK. I'm not much of a talker.. and holy shit... some people don't get the hint. Usually when you turn in the middle of the conversation and start typing emails... you'd imagine most people would see that as a sign that I might not be super interested in what's being discussed. But some people.. will just keep going.. and going.. and going...
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502 Gateway error help!
I've been getting a 502 Gateway error on most threads on minecraftforums.net and it's been really annoying. Today I decided to try a different browser (FF instead of Chrome) and I can view all the threads!
What's the deal? I'm not logged into the forums in either browser. Why did Chrome suddenly break and how do I fix it?-
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No it's not: http://www.minecraft.net/
And I don't think minecraftforums is linked to minecraft.net.
Also, let me be more clear what's happening.
With Chrome, I can view some threads with no problem, I can see every page of the thread. I can view the forum list, the different sections of the forums, and go into them and see thread titles. When I click on a thread I get a 502 Gateway error.
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It's 502 Bad Gateway, screenshot if that helps: http://www.shackpics.com/files/BadGateway1_x9i53g10sozju6imrx2t.jpg
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one last repost Claimed Town areas on foo1: http://pixeltrap.net/minecraft/TownyMap.png
(N.B. both the render and the territory map are a few days old at this point, so if you've changed anything over the weekend it probably won't show. It's fairly manual and clunky at the moment, but if people are interested I could probably update these maps on a weekly basis or something.)-
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Automating it isn't too hard -- I can code a regular pull down of the render and towny data pretty easily, and run this script on it. (I should have some time to clean up the code now that I have no guests in my office anymore, woo). Main reason that I said a weekly update is
* Town creation/expansion doesn't really happen at a furious rate now that most of the server is all set up; and
* the overhead render is still a bit broken, pegging the CPUs at 100% whenever we run it and causing megalag. So I'm thinking that we'll schedule it to run in the middle of the night, on a weekly basis or something (assuming foo hasn't already done this -- he's sneaky like that).
Maybe I'll just get everything set up for a weekly version, and pin a 'last updated' line to the top-right or something. Also remove those damn axes on the sides :P
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lol someone finally did it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ctWhEKlGvY
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I finally got FSAA working properly in Minecraft... it looks awesome!
http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/Pics/Minecraft_FSAA.png
In the Nvidia Control panel, I added "Javaw.exe" to the Programs List. Then I set FSAA to override any program settings, used the SLI FSAA modes Nvidia now offers. Figured I might as well use the 2nd video card for something as Minecraft doesn't really use SLI at all.-
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I was trying last night. There does NOT seem to be a way to do it on a per-game basis. But you can tell Catalyst Control Center to override game defaults and turn on various AA and AF options. They are named poorly, but you can see what they do with some experimentation.
I was also able to get FSAA working, but sadly, there were glitches. There was a odd box around any light source. Also weird seams between blocks. I ended up turning it off. :(
But I didn't try all combinations of settings. If someone figures it out, please share!
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Wow i wonder how quickly this gets shot down by Notch... Minecraft Server written in C++
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1012&t=101183
Granted I don't know if I'd trust running some guys server especially the thing is Closed Source, no way for anyone to check that this guy isn't doing anything here like stealing passwords, ect...
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Here's one persons response: Why would it be wrong or illegal? Notch isn't selling the server, he's selling the client. Why would he care about the server, especially if it encourages more people to buy the client?
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?p=1461889#p1461889
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i assume you're completely against hMod and all other server mods that redistribute Notch's code without permission, considering that those actually **ARE** illegal. hMod is totally fucking illegal. he decompiled Notch's jars and rebuilt them with his own modifications. that is straight-up infringement
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i will show my hand and say that i know a lot about this because of my day job. our bread and butter is reverse engineering third party software and then clean-room cloning it, exactly as this minecraft server did. it's legal as an eagle. we've been sued before and nothing relating to this reverse engineering process has ever stuck. lots of things are illegal, but messing around with someone's app to see how it works and then using that knowledge to write your own is totally legal and acceptable
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frankly it would be easier to not use notch's code because the server protocol has already been reverse engineered and documented
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How in the world do you do THIS!!! AWESOME!!!
http://nerd.nu/map/
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I'm not sure why you're impressed, when our renders are clearly superior http://foo1.shkn.ws/~djr/mc/gmap/
What am I missing here?-
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possibly an old version, it was added relatively recently. Try this version http://www.digitized-e.com/mroizo/OizoMapper.zip
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Notch is clearly high:
While on the subway after work today, me, @jeb_, @Kappische and @jnkboy came up with a really neat new use for redstone. http://i.imgur.com/YuiKT.png-
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lol you jest but http://twitter.com/notch/statuses/12613452228988931
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