Evening Reading: Labor Day Edition

by Alice O'Connor, Sep 06, 2010 5:00pm PDT

It's been a quiet Labor [sic] Day here at Shacknews as the video games industry has mostly been out in the garden with a beer in one hand and a hotdog in the other, not to mention I've been working by myself. Still, I hope that whoever and wherever you are, you have come to appreciate the labouring classes a little bit more than you did before.

Me, I've been working hard all labour day so nobody appreciates long, hard slog better than me. Crumbs, what a gruelling day! I think I'll unwind by playing the PC version of Chime, which unlocked on Steam while I was writing this post. I already have the Xbox 360 edition but this'll make a fine addition to my netbook for travel fun.

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so back in the day, Bruce Campbell was pissed at 3DRealms for Duke ripping off Evil Dead.

V: Are you familiar with the game Duke Nukem 3-D? If so, are you aware of the similarities between its lead character and Ash in the way of mentality and catch phrases? Are you flattered by this sort of "borrowing" of your work?

BC: What can I say? Maybe they're just cheese-balls who can't conceive of an original idea and feel compelled to rip off Ash. Imitation is indeed a form of flattery, but paying a guy is an even better form.

that's super lame of them. hail to the king, indeed.

also what's with george being a fuckwit to the shack? i feel bad for dognose :( [ http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23917117 ]

Sep 06, 2010 8:02pm PDT

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so back in the day, Bruce Campbell was pissed at 3DRealms for Duke ripping off Evil Dead. V: Are you f : stamps
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  http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=3415042 : dognose
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  kingdeporks comeback was fucking awesome. : NastyJack
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    agreed. I tried to find the Firefall footage yesterday and ended up having to search the comments here...... : stamps
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    - yes :( I don't know what else to read except for Gamasutra. : stamps
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      I mean, I probably get more gaming news from stuff people post in the chatty than anywhere else. The only... : Vincent Grayson
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      I do. Even if it's later than other sites, it eventually shows up, and as mentioned, shackers are far more intelligent (on average) than most internet commenters.
      
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      I do. Even if it's later than other sites, it eventually shows up, and as mentioned, shackers are far mo... : deject
    - i scroll through the front page articles at least once a day. shack + chatty is about the only place i g... : valael
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    - anything important eventually gets talked about in the chatty. : DonkeyPopsicle
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    I figure He was teasing sTeve, besides He is probably having an emotional week. I'd cut slack : dognose
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  It's GeorgeB we're talking about, who gives a fuck? : Drewus
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    I give a fuck and others here do too. That guy could have sold out for millions long ago or released thr... : dognose
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      I'd disagree dognose. Developers hold out on releasing games all the time in order to refine the gameplay... : Drewus
      
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      Like I said. Say what you will about His decisions; He made them for the sake of the game. : dognose
      
      I find it adorable you capitalize the "h." I'm loling. : ejectorpod
      
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      I think you might be living in a different reality.. George's OCD towards Duke is probably what killed it... : even4
      
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      Like. I. said. Say what you will about His decisions; He made them for the sake of the game. : dognose
      
      You need more than good intentions, man. : Arceihn
      
      I think in his mind he made them for the sake of the game, yes. But largely deluded and having someone el... : even4
      
      Also, the fact that the current iteration of the game is looking dated on the Unreal 2.5 Engine seems to ... : Drewus
      
      There's a not-so-fine line between waiting to polish your product and... never releasing anything ever. : FlatlineDixay
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  His comments were probably in response to Brian Leahy's write-up: "Okay, here's the bad news. The engi : pigvomit
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    That sounds like a perfectly honest and informed opinion to me. : slax0r
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      He's quite right about the art style, Prey had the same problem. : SpaecKow
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  I've been at 2 separate Bruce Campbell live outings and both times he's been asked about 3DR and Duke Nuk... : Godhatesfatpeople
  - He hates the fact the Duke doesn't age and sadly, he does. :P : DM7
  - For obvious reasons. Duke 3D was a huge rip off of a lot of things, but Bruce probably got the shortest ... : brickmatt
  - I thought I'd read somewhere that it was a misunderstanding, he'd never played the games or something so ... : -JLN-
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  George sat on his dream for 15 years and it was taken from him. He is bitter. : skitzo
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    Uh, what? Nothing was "taken" from him; he blew all his capital on neverending development until he could... : rudds
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    I read Bruce's autobiography and he came across as a super nice guy who wasn't at all bitter. I mean i... : NastyJack
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      All I've been able to go by is what I got out of that one meeting. He did a Q&A in Philly for the movie a... : snot3353
      
      He usually does the snarky bit in his talks. It's part of the joke. But you could have possibly caught hi... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      his lines? the studio's lines : RikiTiki2
      
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      I remember that studio suit making those lines iconic. : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      whether he said them or not, they own them and not him : RikiTiki2
      
      derp. : Godhatesfatpeople
      
      you should also protest george broussard talking about DNF since he doesn't own it : boring gegtik
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    sorry, bruce campbell owns. burn notice season finale, anyone? who got that case? : ]pm[chem
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- Given the amount of crap George has taken from the Shack, I'd count that as a fair return volley. : Goto10
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