Morning Discussion: Wash the Day Away

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  I don't if I should applaud or weep. : Clay
  • yeah i dont know if this is a good thing at all. : DrFlammable
• four months to compile that is monumental. im downloading and seeding it just because...WTF not? : m0rfus
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  How big is it? : skilesare
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    2 gigs : stonedonkey
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      but how big? : steelsamurai
      • 2" x 4" x 8" : Ride-My-Rocket
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  What's a good way to view this history offline? : mrvandelay
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    notepad : mtgDoofy
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      I thought it was in some weird XML format. : mrvandelay
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        Here's a sample: This is stories 501-01000 http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1410224/shack_00501-01000.... : stonedonkey
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          "jZip does not support the compression method used by the archive file 'log.txt'" I get that error for... : arhughes
          • I used Winzip to compress it, I'm wondering if it's not something properitary these days with Winzip.. I ... : stonedonkey
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            I get the same error using Vista's zip decompressor. : electroly
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              Yea.. I just looked through the settings and it looks like I used something Winzip created.. ug... looks ... : stonedonkey
              • winzip has a legacy mode to create zip files compatible with other apps, otherwise it does zips that are ... : IndigoAK
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  hey thanks! I wanted something like this for my projects, this really helps. : askedrelic
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    projects? 0_o : Goncyn
    • JO material : askedrelic
• this outta be interesting, why not i'll grab it up. : Dschinghis Khan
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  What's a good torrent client these days. Just wiped clean and reinstalled box. : bombay
  • uTorrent is the only way to go. : m0rfus
  • uTorrent : Dschinghis Khan
  • ^^^ This one ^^^ : fishbone
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    µTorrent : mrvandelay
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      mu Torrent : c0bra
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        i always figured it should be pronounced "microtorrent" : electroly
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          well "µ" is basically the letter "m" in Greek, so if anything it's "mmtorrent" : c0bra
          • no it's the letter 'mu' in greek. : kbnerd
          • that's not how you pronounce "µ" : electroly
          • no its microTorrent. µ is the SI prefix for Micro. They call it this because its a tiny program. : mrvandelay
          • its 'you-torrent' fgts : aurealis
  • Thanks! : bombay
  • Micro Torrent : Sailor of Fortune
  • rtorrent : askedrelic
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    μTorrent is okay, but I prefer λTorrent. It was developed by Black Mesa and has a couple of anomalies, ... : ChibiJosh
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      λTorrent is a bit faster cuz it routes your packets though tiny wormholes instead of traveling on fiber : deadfish
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        And the chance of accidentally downloading a headcrab is really negligible. : ChibiJosh
        • well that's what you have your firewall for : deadfish
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        Prepare for unforeseen consequences : RIAA&MPAA : r3dn3ck
        • I never dreamed I'd download a Brittany Spears album, much less seed one! : ChibiJosh
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    glad to see all uTorrent clients...accept *that* one and you KNOW WHO YOU ARE!! : m0rfus
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      heh don't bust his balls too much, he's leading in uploaded atm : stonedonkey
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        unless i dont know how to read this...ive uploaded 604mb thus far? : m0rfus
        • yea your right that's how much my seed has uploaded to him : stonedonkey
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  i know you have some bandwidth, but i already ated it. im down to 20k/sec now. : m0rfus
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    Yea I don't have a ton, until the first few people get it seeded it might be painful.. I noticed the peop... : stonedonkey
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      I have a decent amount of bandwidth and will leave uTorrent running all day. already seen upload speed... : x4nth3
      • The people who get in later will get the best of it since my hosting is capped at 100k right now. Thanks... : stonedonkey
      • I just started it and will seed on my FIOS for a long while. : Goncyn
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      Did you turn on superseeding or whatever it's called? That's supposed to seed a full copy faster. : Goncyn
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        looks like uTorrent calls it "Initial Seeding" : Goncyn
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          Good call, I just enabled this, looks like it will be more efficent. : stonedonkey
          • great job doing this btw. : x4nth3
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      Looks like ZeroSignal is seeding from his server. I was getting really good speeds for a while. : rock elf
      • Yeah, I'm still downloading it at <120k/s though :( : ZeroSignal
• did you just make us immortal? : Audhuml4
• I'm almost scared. Job well done! : baron calamity
• tagg'd for grabbing later. thx. : rmjackson
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  LOL. This is awesome. We could transplant the entire chatty to a new server with this info. Crazy. Ni... : SqueegyTBS
  • One that isn't' firewalled by my work please, thanks. Shacking from Stonedonkeys ShacktoGo through fir... : tboomer2
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  nice... I hope you continue adding new posts to the archive : ]pm[chem
  • Yea I plan too, I haven't figured out the best way to release them yet, most likely smaller updates and j... : stonedonkey
• Is this the entire history? (what 10 years worth?) : GoodBoy
• interesting, good work : ShoCon
• I'll leave mine up too. I'm on university bandwidth. : mancide
• I will seed this later when I get home. How cool! : RogerDandy
• While I applaud this I'm scared as shit to learn that my posts are now documented forever. : orgcaptainnemo
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  Is the program called VantageAI.exe? Because it should be. : TastyWheat
  • Seriously. It's perfect. : TastyWheat
• That is awesome, thanks for doing this! : ColoradoCNC
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  You bastards, get back online and upload. I'm the only left with 100%, and I'll be shutting down in an ho... : rock elf
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    Weird.. there were like 20 people on earlier and now there's three.. did it complete or something? : stonedonkey
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      I'm probably just being dumb. I can only see a couple of people in the peers list, but maybe it's just no... : rock elf
      • Yea I only saw a few connected, but I'm a torrent newb so no idea. : stonedonkey
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  Does it include the 2 years lost in the DB crash? : spectr3
  • No.its not avail via the site anywyas. : stonedonkey
• I've left this on all day on my 15Mb line, so hopefully you all used and abused me. : hirez
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  ill repost this request: some smartiepants parse out all NWS threads and bundle them up into a shack NWS ... : e v i l
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    most of the links are dead by now i'm sure. only recent ones would still be good : electroly
    • sounds like we need a script to parse it, verify links, and make it so. : YerMothah
  • I am going to import all of this in to my shackstats database so expect some really awesome things soon :... : OverloadUT
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  Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past. : egg5hen
  • NOW TESTIFY! : zerog83
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  Wait so what is in this torrent? Is it just the xml files directly from squeegy's server? If so then that... : OverloadUT
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    Or hm it sounds like you wrote your own parser. Well PLEASE PLEASE tell me it has all of the info that sq... : OverloadUT
    • Also wait crap my shackstats uses json so I am going to have to modify it to use xml but that shouldn't b... : OverloadUT
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    yep xml from the api : stonedonkey
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      Sooo sweeet. I am going to get some year-by-year stats all up in this shit : OverloadUT
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        Oh man I am getting excited. What kinds of things would be interesting? Obviously simple things like each... : OverloadUT
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          I want to be able to generate those word frequency images things that wtf242 did a while back. : hirez
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            That's a good idea. I can't have my system automatically generate the wordles, sadly, because it's all do... : OverloadUT
            • yeah! exactly! that's all we'd really need. be able to specify dates/ranges, and/or individual poster. (... : hirez
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              Wordle gives you a plain HTML POST form for generating the wordles. You can post directly to it without ... : electroly
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                Ah okay that's a little better but what I meant was I can't just generate the worldes and save them on my... : OverloadUT
                • Hmmm, I bet I could design an interesting algorithm for daily wordle images. Something like where I take ... : OverloadUT
• Wow, that is crazy. : bakanoodle
• That is amazing. : rosewood

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• Good stuff, thanks. : h0cake
• I would say I am a remarkably unsympathetic person. JC is a robot. : askedrelic
• good read - thanks : kgargs
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  "JC: It was submitted today. The Apple process is still opaque for us. They owe us one for what happened ... : fishbone
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    Gah, where's Doom Classic? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      yeah give us that first. And DOOM ][ Classic : Schnapple
      • JC said doom2 and final doom will be ingame purchases a bit down the road in ver 2.0. Then in 3.0 it will... : DogDharma
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    yeah, anyone know? : Ellissd
    • Didn't they get bumped at the last minute because Apple was having technical issues at the keynote or som... : jet-poop
• Cool of JC to still be into gaming. I bet he could've ravaged any tech/science/engineering industry of hi... : Marrbe
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  And when we go out to publish the games, now we will be doing that. We can become a publisher through Zen : Schnapple
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    dont they already have an agreement with EA for rage? : Patch-e
    • Yes. The article even says that. : skankcore
    • Oops - yeah, that's what I get for skimming the article : Schnapple
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      Yes, it even reiterates that in the interview. EA gets Rage, Activision gets Wolfenstein, Bethesda gets D... : jet-poop
      • Unless, as suggested, they publish under an id-as-publisher label. : jet-poop
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    He said they didn't have a deal and the plan was to start shopping it around to publishers at the end of ... : Haku-Jin
    • that was for Doom 4 : Maarten Goldstein
    • Sorry that's DOOM4 I was thinking of. : Haku-Jin
• good read. this seems like it will be healthy! I am excited for Rage, Doom 4, Quake 5. Anything where I c... : Downforce
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  In this interview Carmack actually says, "We do the best shooters in the world." Is he on crack? Liste... : TrickSh0t
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    next up: zenimax buys 3dr and assigns DNF to id. :| : mrsparil
    • I don't see how that would be a bad thing. They know 3D Realms well enough - and surely the Texas spirit : humbleone
  • Yeah, that comment was pretty funny. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Including Quake 3, IMO. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Quake 3 was a really good multiplayer experience, but it definitely didn't do anything remarkably new. It... : FlatlineDixay
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      ride-my-i-prefer-tea-and-crumpets-thank-you-very-much : Audhuml4
      • Auhdlum, you are thinking of Sponge. :| : CrustaR
  • Yeah it's been what, 10 years since they made a shooter that could merit that title? : sasoi
  • Carmack knows how to work the PR machine, but yeah, it's ridiculous when the FPS genre is a decade beyond... : Link.
  • Yeah that definetely came off as a bit disillusioned which would be an alarm bell to me as a buyer. : imperator
  • Yeah. I agree wholheartedly. : Rice-Rocketeer
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    Doom 3 was one of, if not the best shooter when it was released. Yeah others have come later that have be... : uncleanmonkey
    • Wait a second, are you for real, dude? You're saying Doom 3 was better than Half Life 2? I think I'm miss... : TrickSh0t
  • Maybe he meant Shooter. With a capital S. Not WW2 sims or class based CTF but Shooters. : crummynz
• id sounds like such stuffed shirt bores now. : thebigbeefsandwich

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• Oh fucking A, the patch will also include the map editor too! http://community.dawnofwar2.com/blogs/?p=70... : Arctic Fox
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  Oh come on, I know there are more Shackers that play DoW than this... : Arctic Fox
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    They're also at work... NEEDS MORE PLAY-BY-PLAY : walker270
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      Alrighty, watching now, will provide play-by-play for you :) : Arctic Fox
      • Scout damage and speed increase, heavy bolters should no longer suck : Arctic Fox
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        Tac squads given heavy armour? Specialising them more towards ranged combat : Arctic Fox
        • This applies to all marines. Hard counter is meleeing with something like power weapons, these cause addi... : Arctic Fox
      • Something about a Slugga buff. General talk about melee being far more lethal in the new patch. Conventio... : Arctic Fox
      • Major changes to Ork T2. Deff Dred half the cost of a Marine dreadnought. Devs want to see lots of Ork ve... : Arctic Fox
      • Shotgun changes. No longer area effect, does more damage, especially at close range. (they envisage scout... : Arctic Fox
      • Stormboyz buffed. Stikbommas redesigned as more of a disruptive unit -- throw more grenades, less damage ... : Arctic Fox
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        Nob squad cost decrease (just a little). Redesigned their weapons to be more useful. : Arctic Fox
        • They also have a new ability, Frenzy, which makes them temporarily invulnerable (!). Trying to increase s... : Arctic Fox
      • That's it! Looks fucking hot. I'm surprised that they didn't talk more about the Ork changes, I expected ... : Arctic Fox
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        Also, non-walker vehicle pathing is supposed to be much improved. : midgetherder
        • Yah, though that was also mentioned in the first vid. Faster accel/decel, meaning vehicles are more respo... : Arctic Fox
• FUCK YEAH! I didnt watch the other one cause I dont care about Eldar or Tyranid, But SM! WHOOO! : noobja
• Watching now. SCHWING!!! : midgetherder
• Holy crap, holy crap, holy crap. Started HD DL now. : Dontdrop
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  I liked the first one but don't play as them. I hope the Ork changes are awesome : melkore
  • Well they're actually using Stormboyz in the video so that's something : Arctic Fox
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  I am pretty much yawning and waiting until the patch is actually out : ]pm[chem
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    then you're going to be at a strategic and tactical disadvantage! : noobja
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      nah, there will be some bug or OP strat they missed in playtesting that will be totally obvious to everyo... : ]pm[chem
      • Well maybe you should play the beta when they do it, then! : Fayk
• i'm at work for another 10 mins GAAAAH!!!! : theWhite
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  So they pulled base building out of DoW 2...only to add it back in? Doesn't that change the gameplay imme... : Madwacker
  • base building...what? : noobja
  • I have no idea what you are talking about. : Arctic Fox
  • oh please, if you haven't decided by now you've pretty much already made up your mind. : Klebold
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    What the hell are you talking about? What base building? : Rice-Rocketeer
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      I can only guess he's talking about the initial base (that you don't build) and teching up to T2/T3. Ther... : Arctic Fox
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        I think he's talking about generators... : Dontdrop
        • if so, lol : Arctic Fox
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      I was reading a bunch of reviews and it says they removed base building which is what changed it from you... : Madwacker
      • they did remove it. there's one building that takes care of all your research and shit. otherwise you upg... : xsoulbrothax
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        You get a big headquarters building that you build all your units from, and there are a couple of gun tur... : Majuju
        • oh I forgot, you lock down power nodes with generators : Majuju
  • Just buy it. It's a very good game. : razlebol
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  Scout = melee counter? Really? That is strange. : Klebold
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    Yeah I found that a little weird too. I guess since they're trying to put more of a ranged spin on the Ma... : Arctic Fox
    • Especially with the shotgun knockback they should be effective at keeping melee units at bay. : Dontdrop
  • With shotguns, I don't see why not. They were kinda good against melee already if you could sneak up to a... : razlebol
  • BONK : Downforce
  • They seem to be universally going for a high(er)-micro counter to melee. The Tyranid's hard counter was ... : walker270
• This is fucking awesome. Thanks. : Rice-Rocketeer
• Nice. Watching now. : razlebol
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  I would like to hear more about what they're doing to fix the eldar. I've seen them get their asses kicke... : taronish
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    Yeah I agree. So far we've seen an overhaul to the Tyranids (which could be good or bad), An overhaul to ... : Arctic Fox
    • Specifically, I would like to see: - fix wargear for exarch (mostly seems to be useless, from what I c... : taronish
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  I wish they'd picked some close fights for these videos... The Orks look like they have absolutely nothin... : spdon
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    On the contrary, I thought this one was reasonably close until that big fight where he led the nobs away ... : Arctic Fox
    • After the marine killed the walker, he had nothing. The Nobz was a last desperate throw of the dice, if y... : spdon

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  oh look cookies! : Ziz
  • Cookies!?!? Where??? : trOmblyj
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  I think that's a bit premature considering Nintendo built a machine that prints money, but if Microsoft d... : silent prophet
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    I don't even consider the Wii in the running really. Yeah its sold the most, but I don't know anyone who ... : bozer
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      Well you can consider whatever you like but the Wii is a video game console that consistently sells much ... : Zek
      • Nintendo has also made millions if not billions more in profit off of their console than Microsoft and th... : spiffymc
    • This may have more to do with who you choose to associate with than the Wii's actual success. : Conan
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      it doesn't matter what you think or you know, nintendo makes a profit on their hardware and has since lau... : grendel
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        The problem with both bozer's and your position is that you're assuming that there's something to "win". ... : adpalumbo
        • This is a good post : Begawkiness
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          Some people consider it winning to put competition out of business or relegate them to obscurity. Put ano... : Code RedBeard
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            How is Sony close to losing anything? MS has only sold close to 7M more consoles than Sony (30M vs 23M)... : Saman
            • Perhaps Microsoft could make better hardware if they wanted to charge more for it or take more of a loss ... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
            • mostly that given sony's titanic advantage coming into this gen in public perception, familiarity, etc, i... : xsoulbrothax
            • A big difference is the attach rate for the two consoles. I think the 360 is still pretty far ahead there... : Evil Benius
            • probably because the entire sony corporation is in a much more desperate situation than microsoft, and fo... : disembodied potato
        • This man gets it. : deveus1
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          But..but. if nobody won how can I scream that my console beat your console???? : baronzemo78
          • You open your mouth ready to spew biased shit and then some one who's not interested in that crap comes a... : one random winner
        • I agree with this post. I don't actually care at all who won anything. I just think that Microsoft has a ... : bozer
        • Agreed. And I'll add something that one of the Microsoft people said awhile back: "Most people who own a ... : Entity
        • You're wrong. This post just won. :) : SilverSnake
        • pretty sure someone at Nintendo / MS has party'd about the figures they have moved because both have take... : razorblade79
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        The way I see it, sales of Coca Cola make even more than the Wii and I'm more likely to be drinking coke ... : nudel
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          So.. your saying Coca-Cola won the console wars? : silent prophet
          • Yeah. They're sneaky bastards! : nudel
          • No matter who wins, we drink Coke : Sailor of Fortune
      • they didn't win because shacknews posters say it renders in 320x200 because kids can't tell the differenc... : Downforce
    • I'm pretty sure as businesses they certainly consider the Wii still in it. It does exactly what the goal ... : zakazi
    • I'm pretty sure Wii software is still selling; so I think somebody's still playing it. : Agrona
• I don't know about that, but it certainly gives them a huge potential to push platform forward even if th... : chazums
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  Hulu would make everyone pay attention to this, but the BB article makes a good point. : jake2000
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    they'd never, ever put hulu on Live because they sell some of those same shows. as far as free content Li... : thebigbeefsandwich
    • That's not true. They'll put Hulu on Live when they can make money from it, like with Netflix. They... : adpalumbo
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  All the web stuff does is give added value to an aging platform to help keep it relevant... the dude says... : pixelat3d
  • Wouldn't that make Microsoft an even bigger winner? : boofy
  • 10-15 year life cycles do not preclude a new console from coming out so I have no idea what you are talki... : Evil Benius
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  Speaking of which, there were no cloud gaming news at E3 were there? : Edges
  • No, what happened to that device anyway, announced at GDC but nothing at E3? : crummynz
  • There weren't really Games for Windows either. So much for that. : te[R]ror
• It's not that they won the console war - it's that they are getting closer and closer to the goal that th... : dedgecko
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  I wish the 360 had internet capabilities. : phipple
  • O_o : CRasterImage
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    good it would be awesome if you could use it to message friends, play multiplayer games, or even just dow... : silent prophet
    • I don't care about any of that, my 360 is a purely gaming machine, so I'd just be happy being able to dow... : thecray
  • because you know... my Atari 2600 did that : r3dn3ck
  • fuck that i'm still waiting to play games on the thing. : emcea
  • i hear you can buy a serial cable and crosslink the handshake lines to make something called a "null mode... : mindfk
  • hay guys i think he means a web browser : suqur
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    hah, I dind't even read what I typed. This is becoming an embarrassing trend. Yes, I meant web browser,... : phipple
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      It'd be neat but I don't know why anyone would want to browse the internet using a controller. You could ... : Mmmmmoo
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        I could see it working reasonably well with the keyboard MS released that attaches to the controller. Po... : Arcanum
        • They have those little keypads that connect to the controllers already. It's like texting basically. : phipple
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  I wish the 360 could play games : OverloadUT
  • I wish mine could make me a sandwich. : Mmmmmoo
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  "COULD THE XBOX 360 BE THE LAST CONSOLE YOU BUY?" The last console i bought 4 or 5 times! *rimshot* : alphablu
  • yeah which one exactly? my first last one or my third last one or however many more die on me? : grendel
• I find this hilariously ironic. Sony built the PS3 as a be everything, do everything media box in the ho... : Arcanum
• where's me fookin browsa : jimmy-buffett

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  http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ is free : boring gegtik
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    It's only free if your time is free. : DHAvatar
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      So Windows doesn't require any time? : zakazi
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        Nobody said Windows was free. :) : nudel
        • Haha, good point! : zakazi
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          the RC is though! until 2010 anyway : jcupitt
          • <stallman> But it will cost you your freedom and your soul! </stallman> ARGH, What have I done, I have... : nudel
    • It's only free if your time is free worthless. : Schnapple
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  How do they suck? Cheaper than Vista for a better OS. : Fred Garvin
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    For a service pack on steroids, you mean. : Nitrium
    • What exactly, do you expect of a new OS? : grandmasterlee
    • oh boy here we go : Downforce
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      No, that's Snow Leopard. This is a pretty fundamental shift for a next gen Microsoft OS. : Fred Garvin
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        Which is what Vista was supposed to be but they dropped the ball severely. I'm sorry, but Windows 7 shoul... : mancide
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          No not really it shouldn't be. : sigpro
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            I agree with you that it shouldn't be free, but the upgrade and full prices are just too steep for a OS t... : Nitrium
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              What does it fix, exactly? : walker270
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                It's much faster then Vista. That alone is a great fix IMHO. AFAIK it fixes compatibility problems. Th... : Nitrium
                • What compatibility problems? Blanket saying "compatibility problems" is meaningless because way too many... : walker270
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                  The way UAC works in Windows 7 is more stupid than the way it works in Vista, not less. If you don't t... : nudel
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                    By default, that is. The UAC modes Vista had are still options in Windows 7; it's just the new default mo... : nudel
                    • Ok, fair enough - I've always turned them off anyways. In my experience it's just a hindrance that does m... : Nitrium
        • and Valve should be giving away L4D2 for free : derelict515
        • It should be cheaper I agree, but not free : Schnapple
        • I use Vista every day. Stable, does the job and once you get used to the new interface it's fine to get a... : Fred Garvin
        • I've been using Vista fine at work since it came out. It's really completely stable and runs great. No pr... : deveus1
        • Vista is hardly a dropping of the ball. I have run it on numerous computers and it is just fine and alway... : retarded talking dinosaur
      • yeah but snow leopard is $29 which is reasonable : boring gegtik
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        "Fundamental shift"? In what sense? And I didn't bring Snow Leopard to the discussion, but as gegtik a... : Nitrium
        • yes : Trepex
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          The upgrade to Windows 7 Home Premium is $50 for a limited time. : baronzemo78
          • Limited copies too. Not everyone can get it :/ I bet it won't even be available to Canada at that price. : razlebol
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          The shift is MS finally being willing to move ahead with an OS without spending so much freaking time on ... : Fred Garvin
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            The virtual-xp thing is not the way MS are handling backwards compatibility. There is no break with the p... : jcupitt
            • There is, but they can't because it would be suicide. And virtual XP is a compromise. : Fred Garvin
      • From what? XP, sure, but not so much Vista. I think they're back-porting a lot of the big non-UI chan... : walker270
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        Right, because simplified multicore processing for all apps via Grand Central, GPU processing for all app... : Serpico74
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          PFX and ConcRT are both going to be free (that's grand central for you, for .Net and C++ respectively), a... : uncleanmonkey
          • From Wikipedia it appears that grand central uses a far more naive scheduling algorithm though :-/ : uncleanmonkey
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            Its also a top to bottom rewrite of everything to 64-bit, it takes up 6GB less space on the HD than Leopa... : Serpico74
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              How much of that 6gb is stuff besides the printer drivers and language packs? (iirc those were at least 4... : derelict515
              • We'll know soon enough. They claim its because of better filesystem compression, but again, we'll see. I ... : Serpico74
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          And Windows 7 is a service pack? : Fred Garvin
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            It isn't. Did I ever say that? : Serpico74
            • Sorry, I was taking the context of the root post into account. Snow Leopard may be a major update, but it... : Fred Garvin
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        I've always thought of Windows 7 is to Vista as Snow Leopard is to Leopard. They're all just refinements ... : Mmmmmoo
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          But for some bizarre reason people are complaining that these refinements at $30 and $50/$100 a pop are a... : Serpico74
          • I was still hoping the Windows 7 upgrade price would be less than $100 though. :( : Mmmmmoo
        • I disagree. Removing default BC like they did is a big step from previous OS releases from Microsoft. : Fred Garvin
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  Where are the prices? : Chod
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    http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/06/windows-7-pricing-announced-cheaper-than-vista.ars : Nitrium
    • hahahahahaha, what a fucking joke. : pyide
  • Engadget has them. : Beady
  • ^^ This. : evildanish
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  I'm gonna wait to see OEM prices : Shadowdane
  • Same. With Vista it definitely made sense to buy the OEM version. (Even if you did end up wanting to t... : nudel
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  the preorder prices are pretty incredible. definitely all over that : feek
  • Yeah fair enough - those are good, though. : Nitrium
  • Agreed. 49$. shit I'm down with that. : jonin
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    The preorder prices are only for the upgrade versions. : silent77
    • which will work just fine for me. : jonin
  • The "while supplies last bit" the Ars Technica article mentions worry me. : kek
  • Yeah I am going to do this, thanks for pointing it out : Begawkiness
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  I'll be preordering a copy of the Home Premium upgrade for my wife's laptop and for my laptop, i think, b... : MisterPhoton
  • Why bother with Ultimate? The only real benefit is BitLocker. : Fred Garvin
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    What feature does Ultimate have that Home Premium doesn't that you need for a home desktop environment? : bipolar
    • It has Ultimate in the name!! : mikecyb
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      remote desktop and shadow copy : dantastic
      • Nope, just BitLocker and Language changing: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/compa... : Fred Garvin
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        There are better free tools than remote desktop and shadow copy is available in Business (remote desktop ... : bipolar
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          What's better than Remote Desktop? (Please, dear god, don't say VNC.) : nudel
          • haha he already did say VNC below. we don't agree on windows stuff, nudel but i think we can both agree ... : dantastic
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          name a better free tool than remote desktop that doesn't just use remote desktop in its implementation. ... : electroly
          • *VNC : electroly
          • Great minds think alike! Fuck VNC. : nudel
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            why all the VNC hate? It's fine. : bipolar
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              usable? yes. better than RDC? absolutely not. : electroly
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                Is RDP $100 better then VNC though? If RDP was a retail product, would you pay $100 for it instead of Ul... : bipolar
                • We weren't talking about value, you just said "there are better free options than RDC" without qualificat... : electroly
                • Yes, yes it is. with RDP I can get shit done. With VNC I am grinding my teeth the entire fucking time. : SenorSpine
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              It couldn't update the screen or mouse pointer properly on any machine I've ever tried it on (and that's ... : nudel
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                vnc doesn't force a modeswitch on the target machine (resetting all windows positions, esp when remoting ... : factor27
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                  RDP doesn't move multi-monitor windows around anymore, either. (I think that may have changed in Vista.) ... : nudel
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                    Really? How do you prevent it from moving windows? At work I'm running 2x 1280x1024 but at home I hav... : factor27
                    • If it's anything like PCAnywhere, it shows the primary monitor, and has options to show a scaled view of ... : bipolar
                    • Ah, thinking about it, it might be more complicated than I thought. It may only not move the windows a... : nudel
        • If you use live mesh which is free, you get remote desktop with copy and paste between computers. : rhodesbe
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        Both are in professional (I'm pretty sure), so you still don't need ultimate. http://windows.microsoft.c... : mtgDoofy
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          Professional -> Ultimate is only $20, though. TBH, that's in my "why the fuck not" range. : walker270
          • true, but there is quite the difference if you get in on the pre-order upgrade pricing : mtgDoofy
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      Did they add RDP back into the Home version? If so, then XP Compatibility might be about it.. : walker270
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        Professional has RDP and Media Center and you can use XP mode for free with it. Ultimate really doesn't h... : sigpro
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          Yeah, there doesn't seem to be a point in the Ultimate edition any more. The differences are minor, and ... : walker270
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            Enterprise had the BitLocker stuff, but I'm not sure about the languages. If it does, then the only diff... : mtgDoofy
            • Ultimate is literally "Enterprise on a disc". : uncleanmonkey
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          average user needs bitlocker to encrypt their porn : retardhumper
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            External hdd + safe is more secure! : walker270
            • Or TrueCrypt : bipolar
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          Ultimate is only $20 more than Professional though, why would you even bother with Professional at that p... : mikecyb
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            Why spend $20 on two features if you know you won't use them? You can always Anytime Upgrade to Ultimate ... : nudel
            • I dunno, it's only $20! you are already spending $300 or close to it for an upgrade, why not plop down a... : mikecyb
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          i dont think pro has media centre. i remember from the charts it not having it : dantastic
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            i think im confused with the business version : dantastic
            • Media Center is in Pro. Understanding the editions is much easier this time as they only add features -- ... : nudel
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        Ultra VNC is free and beats the fuck out of RDP, and I can't imagine compatibility mode not being in Home... : bipolar
        • Home will have the compatibility stuff, but Pro will have a XP VM (with XP license) and some integration ... : mtgDoofy
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          The virtual XP mode is really nice for apps that don't have native 64 bit support or are still not vista ... : sigpro
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            Which app(s) don't work on 64-bit? It seems pretty rare to me. I'm sure you know already but you don't... : nudel
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              the cicsco VPN client will not run in 64bit windows and neither will shoretel phone software that I use a... : sigpro
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                Ah okay. Hmm, sounds familiar so apologies if I've asked you the same question before! : nudel
                • No problem. I can see how many people would never use the xp mode, but for what I use it for it works gre... : sigpro
        • you're kidding right? VNC is a big piece of fucking slow assed shit : dantastic
        • lol you've never used RDP. : uncleanmonkey
        • RDP is the best ever on any platform. so no. : retarded talking dinosaur
  • sounds like Technet should become your new best friend. :D : Smitty
  • Upgrade versions don't actually have any limitations on reinstalls do they? If it gives you crap about th... : Zek
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  I've got 3 machines to upgrade so i'm just gonna pickup a Technet Subscription for $250 since it'll give ... : Crw22
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    Do you work in IT? MS has a program called IT Pro Momentum, it's for early adopters. I already know we'... : o0JediBeavis0o
    • Yea although I don't work in a section that has any say or control over our server environment etc. - Pro... : Crw22
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    The whole point of buying retail, is that you are legally allowed to use the software. If you get a techn... : steve_o
    • Renewal's generally have been pretty cheap for the most part so could keep picking it up each year (and t... : Crw22
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    How does technet work exactly? Are the keys disabled after your subscription runs out? : irrerno
    • Nope not that I've ever seen or run into - per the EULA the license is no longer valid for it but i've ne... : Crw22
• What I was reading said that there would be upgrade versions, but you couldn't upgrade an existing instal... : mtgDoofy
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  $50 upgrade price to go from vista home to win 7 home premium isn't bad at all. I am glad I kept a 64bit... : ant_hillbilly
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    Can you upgrade from Vista Ultimate to Windows 7 Home Premium? : SockMonkeh
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      Well in the ars article it says you will be prompted to do a clean install since its a downgrade. Thats ... : ant_hillbilly
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        Can you go from Vista Ultimate 32 to Windows 7 Home Premium 64? : baronzemo78
        • 32 to 64 is a clean install, whatever the version : Beady
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    It's $119.99 unless you get one of the upgrade codes. : acidnynex
    • Ah, nevermind, the codes just guarantee you'll get one of the limited pre-orders, I guess you just have t... : acidnynex
• I am going to wait for the ultimate steal to change and offer windows 7. That is how I got ultimate cheap... : tums
• I grabbed the win32 beta to install on my system. ... : stgdz
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  ZDNet have some articles saying that Europe (but maybe not the UK) will not have Upgrade versions at all,... : nudel
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    I read on neowin that MS would be including a CD with IE8 install files on it. Not sure how accurate that... : steve_o
    • Hah, that'd be amusing if it's true. "Windows with IE unbundled, with IE bundled!" : nudel
  • Hell I wish they'd do that to NA, I never ever update in place anyway. : Zek
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  Yeeeah, no IE in Windows 7 E! :D At least something good the EU's done for me. : code-e255
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    How in the hell can this be considered a good thing for an end user? How will you download a browser? : retarded talking dinosaur
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      wget : wvuong
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        They've gotta get wget first, lol. FTP.exe or via a shared folder or USB stick/HDD, I think. Hmm, m... : nudel
        • They will just provide a cd or dvd with it if you ask for it. : razlebol
    • Other computer + USB stick, I guess. I think that's much less of a problem, though, than having an uninst... : code-e255
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  Windows Vista users can follow multiple upgrade paths to Windows 7. As was the case when upgrading from X : CapnChaos
  • You should actually be very happy that is the case. Fuck upgrading an install. : sigpro
  • Clean install is the only way to go. Anything else is asking for trouble. : irrerno
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  What if I have an OEM version of Vista and I upgrade? : gibolas1234
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    then you pay for the retail upgrade. You can't upgrade OEM licenses legally. : redfive
    • serious? : irrerno
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      Or just buy another OEM licence which is cheaper than the retail upgrade (or always has been in the past ... : nudel
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        Buy a $10 keyboard and the OEM version.. : ShadowRam
        • scan.co.uk usually sell 99p mices for this exact scenario :D : Beady
• I get it for free but I'd gladly pay $200 for it. You use it every day, for everything. And stop comparin... : bozer
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  I can't seem to find a difinitive answer to this: If I have Vista Ultimate, can I buy Windows 7 Professio... : OverloadUT
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    yeah, I don't fully understand this upgrade scheme either. If I get Windows 7 professional, it's the same... : gibolas1234
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      Well no, the upgrade price is $200 and the retail is $300. But the BIG reason my question matters is that... : OverloadUT
      • Yes, you can upgrade to a lower version of 7 from Vista. The 'upgrade' is a clean-install though, you wil... : LoioshDwaggie
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    You can upgrade, but you cant downgrade. So ultimate needs ultimate 7, which is stupidly expensive and... : Beady
    • Is that to be able to buy the Upgrade package, or just about in-place upgrading (i.e. avoiding a clean re... : nudel
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  whatever newegg has for OEM since I'll be making a new RIG with 12GB and SSDs. lol @ upgrading an OS o... : Downforce
  • Yeah, I've always preferred to migrate stuff over by hand on a brand-new install. It might be more time-... : Ride-My-Rocket
• I dunno, the prices aren't so bad, especially if you're coming over from XP. : Serpico74
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  I'll have to get the Full version since it will be my first move from 32-bit. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    • oh really? I didn't know that :D : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Nice to see the UK getting royally fucked on the pricing/fx-rate as usual: US: Windows 7 Home Premium ... : nudel
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    yeah, but the UK price incorporates your sales tax, but the US price does not. I don't know about the eu ... : thecray
    • Our sales tax is nowhere near 60% : nudel
• If I can get the 99$ pre-order upgrade price for pro, I'll get it. If I can't, I sure won't spend 199$ on... : razlebol
• I don't know anything about this stuff, what are the requirements to be eligible for the 'upgrade' editio... : Begawkiness
• i wonder if the clean-install-from-upgrade-disk method will work with w7... from the sounds of it (puttin... : gokart.
• Microsoft always forces me to buy the OEM version with their shitty prices. I also hate their upgrade pro... : ovrlrd

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• I'll mess around with it next week some : indosauros
• I'm game if you still need a tester. : mancide
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  Are they planning to add support for push in the simulator? : electroly
  • I doubt it. The push stuff is all tied up with the provisioning so you can't spoof pushes form unauthori... : SqueegyTBS
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  I'm pretty cool! : Dave-A
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    I mean literally, I have the AC going full blast, you could store beer in my pants : Dave-A
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      5299ec17ae1391a32667916cab5609fbad576e2f : Dave-A
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        There we go. Let me update the provision. : SqueegyTBS
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          Ok. You are set. Download the new provision and zip drag them onto itunes and sync. : SqueegyTBS
          • Already done, my good man. : Dave-A
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      Totally. And as an awesome donator to my aids walk, you win even though you didn't post your device id. : SqueegyTBS
      • Not fair. : mancide
      • You deserve it man. Now go walk off that AIDs! :D : Dave-A
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  I was on your ad hoc list for 1.0 so maybe I'm still there somehow? I have a provisioning cert for Lastes... : tashtego
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    oh and since no one else can follow directions df02f1932fd904ff9dd5572f9cfadc69b5569d83 : tashtego
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      Sorry. I deleted your provision to make room for others, only to discover that it doesn't actually make ... : SqueegyTBS
      • I am up to like 70 on my provision. Stupid artificial limitations >:( : Yanks
      • After the reset I'd like to get in as a tester since I assume you have some dead ones. : mancide
      • Yeah provisioning and ad hoc distribution are... not esp. intuitive, and certainly not easy to use. : tashtego
• Did you see my posts about crashing? For whatever reason my messagebox seems to not get along with the a... : hawkeye
• id be glad to help : DogDharma
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  give it to me so I can destroy it : pancake humper
  • This is the greasemonkey script I miss the most after my switch to safari 4. : SqueegyTBS
• I'll be all over it once I'm home from work and at my PC! I promise not to write a rap about it this time... : vile
• did you post the changes yet? I remember you asking for input, but don't think I saw anything final. : re4ctor
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  Nice burring that device ID requirement way down in your long ass post. : mancide
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    Before beginning please read all instructions in their entirety. : SqueegyTBS
    • You know we all have ADHD, you need to put that important shit first ;) : mancide
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  oh hey, Squeegy, I played Void over the weekend and it was pretty fun! Thomw had it on his ipod and I rea... : askedrelic
  • Thanks! We will be pushing an update soon enough, and a sequel, eventually with a company and some actua... : SqueegyTBS
• IMPORTANT! Enable push in the app settings, and your phones settings, and receive some SM's. Send em ... : SqueegyTBS
• I'll just compile it later. : Yanks
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  I'll give it a shot, it says that I still have a LatestChatty license thingy from when I beta tested the ... : WhatIsThisFor
  • There is a chance it might... But they changed my certificates a while back and I had to regenerate my p... : SqueegyTBS
• Sweet, I just saw my last name in the feed, and this thread, so I'll be popping it in and testing it out.... : Matt Burris

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  Everyone please let us know how it runs for you, as well as your system specs. : JohnnyRey
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    I downloaded this morning from fileshack, how do I get involved with you chaps in game if I play tonight?... : etherboy
    • Damn meant to reply to op : etherboy
• will take me 6 hours on my piss connection haha, ah well... 10% done on 119kbps :( : niceguynick
• Awesome, I was hoping for a demo. Downloading now. : hoov1185
• Thanks for the link, downloading now. 2.20MB/s, nice, should be done in 20 minutes. I already purchased i... : zipperface
• http://games.on.net/file/27690/ArmA_II_Demo Much faster download.... : JohnnyRey
• bah!! Wish I could remote into my machine at home, and start this : ShadowRam
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  *stares at steam purchase* UNLOCK DAMNIT : preacher
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    pre-loading would be nice. : trOmblyj
    • I heard the developer/publisher has to pay Steam extra for that? : hmonster
• http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/14657/ArmA+2+Demo : Sapiens
• lol Bigfoot in Arma2? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqJPcRDaiaM&fmt=18 : niceguynick
• Damnit one of few days I go into the office and the demo is released so I can't start my download:( : .frame
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  Torrent 1: http://www.gameupdates.org/details.php?file=ARMA2DEMO.zip Torrent 2 (no luck for me): ... : hmonster
  • btw Torrent 1 is working for me ok and I'll be seeding it at 10mbps wheee One big issue is making sure... : hmonster
  • Nice, getting 1.1mb/s from Torrent 1. : Bamtan
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    one more thing, these are both the same torrent I believe, just different trackers. Darn thing doesn't al... : hmonster
    • WHOOPS, these are NOT the same torrent :-\. Same file, but different torrents I guess. : hmonster
  • heh, this is like the first time I have been uploading a torrent much more than downloading. I guess I am... : hmonster
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  obligitory battle vid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU&fmt=18 : niceguynick
  • now do one with real people : onji
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    heh it's funny. I love arma 1 and am super stoked for arma 2 ... but these "huge battles with tons of AI"... : hmonster
    • yeah, posted mainly to show off the engine. in reality its "oh thats a nice plant textur *SNIPED* " : niceguynick
  • YouTube HD videos always take forever to buffer for me. : PoopStewart
• sweet! : marmite
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  Let us know how the performance is on that vid card...I have the same one and this is my big question at ... : Saman
  • I would also like to know how the game performs with that video card. My roommate has one of those. : SockMonkeh
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    I'll try but it'll be in at least 5 hours haha, plus im on a 2.2 c2d, 2gig ram. Will report back when I c... : niceguynick
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      NICEGUYNICK, REPORT IN! : SockMonkeh
      • I have failed my mission, had to pause my DL, still got 2 hours to go..has been pushed to tomorrow :'( : niceguynick
• Apparently demo contains: full tutorial, Trial by Fire mission (SP only) and Death Valley (single + MP ma... : niceguynick
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  Finnish mirror http://www.v2.fi/pelit/tiedostot/947/ARMA-2/ shhh, I think you may still be able to fin... : hmonster
  • Much thanks, working well for me so far. No one else use this plzk. ;) : Draco
• They just keep updating the first post in this thread on the BI Studios forum with new torrents/mirrors, ... : hmonster
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  Obligatory tactical guide mention For some reading while you download: http://ttp2.dslyecxi.com As... : Dslyecxi
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    Hi Dslyecxi! Any idea if this demo is the same build that will be released this week? Just wondering if t... : byorn
    • It should be representative. It's the same build, or close enough to not matter, afaik. : Dslyecxi
  • I love this guide, Dslyecxi. Thanks. : SockMonkeh
• I think I'm just going to buy this game now. : Sailor of Fortune
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  Demo is now on Steam :D : niceguynick
  • Thanks for the heads up : tomservo
• ooh looking forward to playing this if it will run on my computer. :S : mwasher
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  Please post impressions, guys. : Nitrium
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    i'm impressed : deviantpaul
    • good to know : Nitrium
  • It gives me a taste of Raspberries in my mouth. Oh wait it's this tea I'm drinking. : Sailor of Fortune
• 54% :( : niceguynick
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  Well? How is it? How does it run? WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY IMPRESSIONS : JohnnyRey
  • Doesn't run too great on my system, but I have older hardware. Windows 7, 8600 GTS, 1GB RAM (I think, I'm... : hoov1185
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    I have a E8500, 8 gig of RAM, and a 4890. Runs like complete butter more or less on high settings @ 192... : kainen1
    • jesus christ HULK SMASH!! : manero
  • Runs pretty decent on my 8800GTX SLI'd and 2.4 Quad Core. Alt-Tabbing insta-crashes the game for me th... : zdiddy85
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  Did not run that great on my system, I might wait for when I get my new computer when Windows 7 comes out... : Evil Benius
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    What are your specs? : JohnnyRey
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      Athlon 64 X2 4200, Radeon X1600, and 2GB RAM. The thing is over three years old so it is no shock it is s... : Evil Benius
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        Yeah, from what I can tell the game is really CPU intensive. It doesn't use too much ram, but it maxes ou... : AlexXdude
        • Might have to finally overclock my Q6600 for this game! : SockMonkeh
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        think my 2.2 c2d e4500 will manage it? got 2gig ram and an 8800gts 320mb.. :/ : niceguynick
        • I have the same CPU and same amount of RAM, and I have a 512mb 8800GT, it uses like 50-75% of the RAM and... : AlexXdude
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          it pwns my 2GB e6750 and 7950GT... my guess is the video card. : manero
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            I think it's CPU more than vid card : AlexXdude
            • it's hard to tell i guess. i turn on the fancy effects and it crawls. maybe it's both in my case. : manero
      • I have the same setup with a 9600gt, smooth as butter on normal settings with a 2k draw distance - this i... : shortbuscaptain
• holy shit this thing eats my 7950GT alive : manero
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  Man this is great but i have two questions, three actually. 1. How the hell do you tell how hurt you a... : kainen1
  • Paging Dyslexci! :) : kainen1
  • No. its a simulator so there are no health bars. You have to goto 3rd person and look to see where you ca... : yautja
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  Wtf, my textures are all blurry and when I turn my head away from a player model and then turn back, they... : m0nkz
  • just like real life! : manero
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  i see the shacktactical server in browser.. but no-one is in it. : Klebold
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    Honestly, considering that the only mission type we have for the dedicated server is "Warfare" (Death Val : Dslyecxi
    • PM'd about shacktac. : zdiddy85
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      there is a coop mission with the demo. : Klebold
      • Not that I saw, on the dedicated server. : Dslyecxi
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  Sweet just finished downloading. Add me to steam so we can play! "zdiddy85" or "Zuff Mcgruff". I'm new... : zdiddy85
  • I'm in the shack steam group is there another group I need to be in? Etherboy12 on steam : etherboy
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  IMPRESSIONS: Good lord this is immersive. I am genuinally impressed at this. Its pretty, but has a down r... : Klebold
  • The controls also feel smoother in this compared to ARMA 1. It also turned into a must buy for me. : wellesraphael
  • Yeah, it's freaking sweet. Must Buy! : JohnnyRey
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  is it actually fun or is it ARMA1 all over again? : X-GOUKI
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    well....what did you not like? : byorn
    • movement was like all over the place. it was wonky and alot of things didn't make sense as to why you nee... : X-GOUKI
  • well it certainly controls and looks a TON different than ARMA 1. It's quite immersive. : kainen1
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  The motion blur when you turn or run is pretty cool. Is there supposed to be mouse lag when you make a sh... : BlackCat9
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    It's a bug and it's fucking annoying. Their mouse code has sucked shit since ArmA and I don't think they'... : SockMonkeh
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      yea i have a mid range computer (8800gts 512 and wolfdale 8400 oc) and the mouse lag sucks!! It really ma... : DarkDeus
      • Doesn't seem to be a big deal in the demo! : SockMonkeh
• 97% done, jesus I hate my net connection : niceguynick

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  Return it and get the 2209WA : ant_hillbilly
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    ^This. I hear these are awesome for the price, and 22" is plenty big enough for most photo work (though t... : mn3m0n1c
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      Yea, supposedly LG has a 23in 1920 x 1080 model coming out soon though with an E-IPS panel also. I am wa... : ant_hillbilly
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        I love how this new IPS tech. just kinda showed up out of nowhere. :) I wonder if it's being used in HDTV... : mn3m0n1c
        • Then we are going to want to wait until the monitor's have 120hz tech in them. lol : ant_hillbilly
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          Also it's coming soon. Just found more info. http://gotech.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/60088261... : ant_hillbilly
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            Hmm, that looks like a TN panel - the viewing angles are only 160H/160V. I think that's a 23" version of ... : mn3m0n1c
            • damn. : ant_hillbilly
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              'S' panel is the superior quality one. I don't think Samsung monitors ship with em anymore though. A and ... : Mr. Goodwrench
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                Heh, I remember there were 3 (A, C and S) but I couldn't recall which was the one that got the raves. : mn3m0n1c
                • A and C are al you seem to get now* lol, 'S' was the awesome one that was actually manufactured by Samsun... : Mr. Goodwrench
  • Yup, do this, IPS panels >>> * : Serpico74
  • Yea, I love mine... : dedgecko
  • I have a 2209WA and it is great. Puts my old samsung TN panel to shame. : jdmSlix
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  You never go with the cheap monitor when editing photos and color management will be a primary task. : Lunatic Angelic
  • I can't even see if your post has any faggot green in it. : underground banana plantation
• Sharpness should be good as long as you have it set to the native resolution but everything else is what ... : sanchez
• if your gonna do photo editing you must get an ultrasharp version of the dell lineup the the 2409wfp rock... : pwnjoo
• This is why you avoid TN panels like the plague. : Lone Swordsman
• ...have you tried to calibrate? : ConfusedUs
• if you are going to do any photo editing stuff get an eizo. costs more but it delivers. : naabster
• Maybe it'll look different if you are upside-down smoking your bong. : taronish
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  It's not like we didn't warn everyone that it's a TN panel in every single thread about it. You chose no... : electroly
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      I use a 245BW which is the bigger, better version of the 2253BW. It's okay, but I definitely can notice ... : electroly
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        Definitely noticeable compared to the 20" IPS on my iMac. In fact, you might want to get your eyes check... : electroly
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          um, viewing angle? i point my monitors at my face so that isn't really a concern now is it? you might w... : mwasher
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            Oh, how uninformed you are, mwasher. Viewing angle also applies up and down, which is the main concern w... : electroly
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              I didn't have that problem with my 2253BW which is what I was talking about. Sit a proper distance, dire... : mwasher
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                I'm actually the one usually defending TN panels, but I'm not blind. The viewing angle problem is obviou... : electroly
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                  Of course it had viewing angle problems! It was a TN panel! ... but not when I was sitting right in fro... : mwasher
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                    also, until the introduction of the 2209WA, it definitely was not worth the price premium over a quality ... : mwasher
                    • if you can tell the diff, it most definitely is worth it. i paid twice as much for my 2007wfp IPS over a ... : xsoulbrothax
                  • I will grant that it is more of an issue on the 24" panel just because of its size. But a 22" panel isn'... : electroly
                  • i keep posting a simple picture to illustrate this. http://files.getdropbox.com/u/26232/TN%20panel.JPG ... : xsoulbrothax
              • Actually I do have a complaint about backlight bleeding at the top and bottom, but I got used to that. : mwasher
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      Unless you are in need of color accuracy. : lodit
      • If I wanted color accuracy I wouldn't use an LCD hur hur hur hururrrr : mwasher
• lol @ photo editing on a sub $200 24" : rmjackson
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  lol I hate mine also but what a fucking DEAL ! : Cashh
  • hahaha : midgetherder
• You can't do photo editing on a TN panel! : OverloadUT
• If you were really into photo editing and photography then you would have known not to buy that monitor. : not work safe
• you get what you pay for... if you want to do more than edit snapshots buy at the very least an MVA panel... : piser
• Grats on reading up on specs first! : lodit
• haha smooth move : mikecyb
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  Is it a TN or a PVA panel? If so, you are pretty screwed. If it's an IPS or S-IPS then it might just need... : Mr. Goodwrench
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    PVA / MVA panels can look pretty damned good with calibration hell, from the right angles, TN's can lo... : Toraz Chryx
    • My (calibrated) Viewsonic VX2025wm thanks you for your support. :D : mn3m0n1c
    • How much is this calibration thingy? : d0gbert

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• time to tap another keg of haterade. : darcspeed
• oh wow : Begawkiness
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  I'll chime in again. It was a really fun/funny/entertaining movie. I see why it grossed such high numbe : phipple
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    So pretentious. I was surprised a Hitler reference wasn't worked in. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      haha, I agree. But you have to admit, there's a degree of truth to it. The ghetto robots were terribly ... : phipple
      • You can't really blame the Fox humping robot though. : one random winner
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        Question: if the two robots were instead human characters played by two black men, would you think it was... : Schnapple
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          Well, the language isn't enough to qualify as "racist" as many people who try to be gangsta talk like tha... : pigvomit
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            Racism implies discrimination. I think you mean the robots used racial stereotypes. : crummynz
            • Transformers 2 is dumb as a fucking brick in all respects, and that includes races and creeds. So no expl... : SpaecKow
        • I was more referring to their appearances, and behaviors...no so much their words. : phipple
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    She is probably one of my least favorite reviewers on the planet. She always reads a ridiculous amount of... : Vincent Grayson
    • That's what it sounds like. : Godhatesfatpeople
• I'm going to watch it tonight at a drive-in theater \m/ : askedrelic
• http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20247501 : Ride-My-Rocket
• I really, really wish they didn't include the Jar Jar Bot Twins. : pigvomit
• Impressive, I'm looking forward to seeing this film. : Da Username J00 Want
• This is why we can't have nice things. : FlatlineDixay
• Wow, and that even after how bad the first was :o : humbleone
• Wont last long, new harry potter in just a few weeks! : krym3
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  TLDR: many people are stupid. : Postal
  • the trailer I saw looked awesome : fathertime
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    Here it is again. If you liked it, you're dumb. How does this not sound like elitist snobbery? : pigvomit
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      because it's true? : eskimo spy
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        INTERNET : pigvomit
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          OPINIONS : eskimo spy
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            ARE : slickdoody
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              ITALICIZED : Sailor of Fortune
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                UNLESS : slickdoody
                • THEY GET ER'D! : BlackCat9
    • Because calling dumb people dumb isn't elitist! : SenorSpine
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      well, you're at least easily entertained! the plot is a mess, everything is one-dimensional, and there's : Postal
      • I'm easily entertained, but totally agree with the plot mess, as well as schizophrenic tone. : phipple
    • What's wrong with being an elitist ? : systatic
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    Either that or people like the occasional eye candy movie. I'm thinking my theory is probably the more ac... : ColoradoCNC
    • Half the movies that come out these days are eye candy movies. : FlatlineDixay
• Motherfuckit. Let's speed up climate change and end ourselves right now. : sgtsanity
• haven't seen it yet buts its gonna 0wn : jayares
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  do these sort of starts factor inflation and such? Cause movie ticket prices have been going up a lot :/ : sparkly
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    Inflation is nonsense because movies aren't in theatres for YEARS like they used to be, and even the best... : critch
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      I'm just sayin, a movie that made, say, 20 million at opening 10 years ago is doing better than a movie t... : sparkly
      • $5 per month. Once you see a movie you have to pay a fee to maintain the memory. : sparkly
      • There used to be a site that compared numbers based on inflation, maybe imdb does it as well? : pharom
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    I only paid 6.00 a ticket to see it. Hardly a cause for inflation since 2007 : Slowtreme
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      $6? I pay $10.50 here :( : sparkly
      • Oh god, this is amazing with sparkly script. And yea, its stupid fucking expensive here as well :[ : d0gbert
  • no, figures are never adjusted for inflation, unless they specifically are. but they always just compare ... : Maarten Goldstein
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  Just got back. Loved it, my kids loved it, wife loved it. I was a little taken by surprise with all the a... : Slowtreme
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    To be fair, it *is* PG-13. My kids didn't even notice any of that stuff and just enjoyed the robot fighti : Vincent Grayson
    • They blew it off fine, I just didnt expect it, the first one wasn't quite the same : Slowtreme
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  Megan Fox is on letterman tonight, fyi. : festivalman
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    I always thought those two would make a cute couple. : Sailor of Fortune
    • Megan Fox and a cardboard cutout of Seth Rogan would make a cute couple. : Freon

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  Troubleshooting - Character Death... WTF is this weak ass shit? : massdev
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    It's a section in the DMG to help DMs with what to do when they kill off their PCs : zebosausamite
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      it should read; REVEL IN THEIR MISERY... : massdev
      • then kick them out of the game and train the remaining players in witchcraft : Zek
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      If only all DMs took its advice to heart... : Goncyn
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        I thought it was timely considering who played last night. : zebosausamite
        • I was going to say that this was an awesome and timely quote - it applied to both the fact taht we had "d... : OverloadUT
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  STRAGGLERS You'll come for the adventure, but you'll stay for the knobby hobgoblin knobs. : Goncyn
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    Hey guys, let's get those level 3 character sheets posted in the Session 4 thread please. Assuming you're : Goncyn
    • I upgraded my builder subscription last night but it's not giving me what I paid for-- what the fuck this... : kpxkrnjc
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  This reminds me that I would like to see a hilarious parody of a paper based RPG of a sports game like fo... : phipple
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    It would be hard to find one that is hilarious. : zebosausamite
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      Argh, I meant to say a short movie about it. Oops : phipple
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        Wow, I fail at explaining myself. A short film where a bunch of overly macho dudes are getting all excit... : phipple
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          Nerf blacks. : SockMonkeh
          • Holy fuck. : Wadmaasi
• EVENTS: I added a calendar that can be used by all groups and RPGA coordinators. http://shackdnd.gregl... : zebosausamite
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  Interested? What's stopping you from joining us? If you have questions or concerns about getting starte... : zebosausamite
  • Don't be scared off by saucystalagtites, most of us are OK people! : Wadmaasi
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  WEST Fun session last night. Here are some highlights -Got a new party member (DianeoftheMoon) -Ki : hbalce1
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    Forgot the best part, we all are now level 2. : hbalce1
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      you forgot to mention me riding the dragon ala Slim Pickins in Dr. Strangelove! : hirez
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        I was leaving that for you. : hbalce1
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          thanks! I got to whoop and holler riding a dragon ,as I decided to use my Handspring Assault to charge th... : hirez
          • If there was ever a night to get a constant stream of amazing rolls, it was last night! That was really a... : OverloadUT
          • Sounds like something straight out of SotC : one random winner
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      So... wait... you guys took on a dragon at level 1... and won? : silent prophet
      • It was probably a Young Dragon, so yeah. They don't want you to have to wait too long to find out why th : Wadmaasi
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        It was a young dragon. Which is still pretty damn dangerous for level 1s! However, it was in the middle o... : OverloadUT
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          I'm kind of disappointed that we didn't get to see the rope do anything. : hbalce1
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            It was subtle but it did help. I had the dragon snap at the rope instead of one of you when it was flying... : OverloadUT
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              I kinda figured dragon vs rope isn't much of a contest. : BlackCat9
              • Yeah. I could have just had him fly right through it and realistically it wouldn't have caused much probl... : OverloadUT
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          What color was it? : zebosausamite
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            It was a young black dragon. : hbalce1
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              A young black dragon has 224+ hp at full strength (o_O) and an AC of 22. Its weakest attack (bite) does 1... : silent prophet
              • Not exactly. First of all this one was scaled down to level 4. And as I said at full strength they lost t : OverloadUT
        • You guys should take on Asmodeus and over-throw the entire plane of Hell now that you are level 2. :p : silent prophet
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        • Hehehe, yeah. : one random winner
        • We got it bloodied the first time while also being attacked by kobolds. I consider it a moral victory. : hbalce1
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    I still can't get over the fact that you guys took no hits. The dragon even has an ability that allows hi... : OverloadUT
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      To be fair, I think only hirez got multiple attacks, and Blackcat got 2 spells off. : hbalce1
      • That's true : OverloadUT
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    We fucked that dragon up. Also, I took a feat that lets me roll my first attack in each encounter twice, ... : Vincent Grayson
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      I replaced furious smash with rousing assault. Goodbye rarely used hit/dmg bonus, hello +charisma bonus f... : hbalce1
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        Sweet. I think healing is the one area we definitely were lacking in (especially in that first dragon fig... : Vincent Grayson
        • Yeah, I am going to get some more sweet abilities, including a daily AOE heal (stand the fallen) at level... : hbalce1
    • That's an excellent feat. Basically means you always want to blow one of your encounter powers first thin... : OverloadUT
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    My daily power finally hit something. I think that was the best part, for me. Too bad he made his saving ... : BlackCat9
    • Yeah, solos like dragons are very likely to save because they only need to roll a 5. However, hitting in ... : OverloadUT
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  Bah, the new reverant article is up, and I can log into insider, but the system doesn't then show the ins... : hbalce1
  • When are they posting the assassin? : Goncyn
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  What would be a good phone utility that you would actually use on the table-top? I have a few ideas, b... : zebosausamite
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    Yeah I've been brainstorming ideas like this to make an iPhone app. :( : OverloadUT
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      Yeah, I was thinking of that too. I need to get a Mac first. My boss was supposedly going to get some f... : zebosausamite
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        I think it would require some very clever design. As you said, the metric will be "is it easier and/or qu... : OverloadUT
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          An enemy stat tracker could be useful. That way could you don't have to recall how pts it took to get it ... : hbalce1
          • Eh, that's a level of power gaming that I don't enjoy so I wouldn't do that : OverloadUT
  • You might run into copyright issues with something that specific. : silent prophet
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    I want more to talk about and play FFS. Let's talk about how awesome a 4E PC game would be. A nice ... : zebosausamite
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      I am STILL considering doing something like this, even though I could never publicly release it. However,... : OverloadUT
      • Hmmm this could be a great way to play with AIR... : OverloadUT
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        I'd really like it for the fix between real life sessions. Plus BG, NWN, etc. were all successful. You ... : zebosausamite
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          Well see all I am talking about doing is just a skirmish thing. Obviously if I were doing my own little p... : OverloadUT
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            I WOULD PLAY THE FUCK OUT OF THIS. : Wadmaasi
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              I really like WoW minis though and I think this would also be a fucking fun thing to have a computer vers... : OverloadUT
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                Ooh, we bought some of those WoW minis at Blizzcon last year, but we've only played it once since then. I... : BlackCat9
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                  I'm not sure what you mean. One of my favorite things about it is that people don't typically get in an "... : OverloadUT
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                    I've played it with two teams 3v3 or 2v2. It tends to just come down to trading shots and who ends up on ... : BlackCat9
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                      Arena is single life per character, fight to the death. When you say "who ends up on a capture point" you... : OverloadUT
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                        Oh, I'm not saying there's no strategy to it. It just seems like once someone gets themselves dug into a ... : BlackCat9
                        • But there are many ways to get people out of a dug-in spot. You can toss a DoT on them and just stand bac... : OverloadUT

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  it truly is an amazing game best game ever It is a shame most people here won't play it since they whine... : gmd
  • i don't think it's whining when it is, in fact, expensive... :) : brainchild420
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  that game is one of the only reasons I want a PS3 : Degenerate
  • Only game I own for the ps3 : pun][sher
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    That and Wipeout are the only reasons I even think of the PS3 : h0cake
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      Wipeout HD is the prettiest game ever made, even though someone who's name rhymes with Smed Flarvin disag... : gmd
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        I haven't seen wipeout HD in motion, but prettier than Crysis? : sigpro
        • console game Crysis probably looks a lot better running maxed out on a super computer : gmd
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  What's your gripe with the shooting? It felt just as tight and responsive as something like COD4 to me. : marmite
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    Precision aiming is almost impossible and it takes 48 bullets to kill one dude : pancake humper
    • ^^^^^^^ : gmd
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      I didn't find that to be the case. I had less trouble aiming in Uncharted than I do in Killzone 2, for in... : Ebu
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        k2 does not require aiming, it requires grenades! : brainchild420
        • I keep running out :( : Ebu
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        so it controls better than the game with the most control gripes? high praise (I quite like Uncharted) : derelict515
        • Fine, IT CONTROLLED PERFECTLY FUCKING FINE. Twist that around to make a point, knock your fucking self... : Ebu
    • I didn't have much trouble headshotting people. No more so than Gears of War and that takes WAY more than... : marmite
    • yea it would have been so much more awesome if the guns did more god damn damage : eeeealmo
    • You guys must suck at the game. I have no problem pulling off head shots. : Frank_Mackey
    • I found headshots really easy, but the guys do take too many bullets. Didn't lessen my love of the game ... : Boxelder
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    it's not tight at all. it's muddy as hell just like the aiming in every single ps3 game with a gun i've e... : [fry]
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      I blame the shitty analog sticks. Sony needs to get with the program already and make the analog sticks i... : pancake humper
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        indented? : brainchild420
        • yes : pancake humper
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          I agree, the tops of the sticks should be concave. : marmite
          • OOOOOH i get it yeah that has very little to do with poopy aiming skills :) but my hands sweat like a b... : brainchild420
      • grind them out with a dremel : dedgecko
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        Same with the triggers. The PS3 pad was designed by a fucking alien. : nudel
        • I don't hate the triggers nearly as much as the analog sticks. I always slide a little to the right when ... : Entity
        • The triggers are completely awful, I don't know what they were thinking there. I don't really mind the r... : Begawkiness
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      I wonder if it's a PAL vs NTSC thing (or is that negated with HD?) I remember when the Wii just came out ... : marmite
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        PAL vs NTSC is a non factor with HD. It's all 720p or 1080p at that point. : sigpro
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          could the lag be attributed to the fact that the PS3 doesn't have a scaler but the 360 does. That would e... : marmite
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            I think it's the fact some people don't have a problem with the sticks on the ps3 controller. I person... : sigpro
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              I hate pretty much EVERYTHING about the PS3 controller but I didn't feel it made Uncharted hard to contro... : marmite
              • Well that's because killzone 2 has shitty controls built into the game with how it handles the input and ... : sigpro
              • Killzone 2 makes you feel like you're moving in water, I'm getting used to it but it's pretty damn bad. : Haku-Jin
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      just like the aiming in every single ps3 game with a gun i've ever played Yeah this bothers me. I'm amaze... : Magus
      • It's moreso the games I think, I played COD4 on a friend's PS3 a while back and it felt fine. : Begawkiness
      • I think it's the placement of the sticks. They're too close together and at the same level. They need to ... : Blackdawgg
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      I think people who are used to the 360 just aren't used to the greater range of motion in the PS3's stic... : Boxelder
      • Did you kick ass with Killzone 2? Because that game has horrible controls. : Magus
  • I think sony has all devs sign a contract forcing them to put shitty controls in their games : maulla
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    are you kidding? rifles were worthless in Uncharted and it takes a full clip to kill a guy : Magus
    • Exactly. The 44 mag lays down some fire but I never have more than a cylinder of ammo. : [fry]
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  Maybe I need to play the first one to figure out why everyone is so excited about the sequel, not that it... : rudds
  • Maybe you should. : Ebu
  • rudds what the hell is wrong with you of course you should play it : gmd
  • Do you not get to play PS3 games in your job? : Lone Swordsman
• Best Action game on the PS3. : Sailor of Fortune
• Yeah, I thought it was a really fun game. : baronzemo78
• I'm looking forward to it but I've got too many games that I need to get through before I pick it up. I'... : Haku-Jin
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  I couldn't get past the combat. I found it so frustrating and un-fun that I never even finished the demo. : Arceihn
  • I felt the same about the demo but eventually picked up the full game at budget pricing. I don't know wha... : nudel
  • I must be broken, because Uncharted's combat is my favorite aspect of the game. The characters are likab... : Frank_Mackey
  • I really didn't like the demo much either, there was way too much combat and while it was pretty good for... : Begawkiness
  • Same here. : Entity
  • Yeah, and it's not much better in the full game. The game is still worth a rent or cheap buy and play thr... : pyide
• i am pretty sure Uncharted is my favorite game for the PS3, followed up by Ratchet and Clank Future: Tool... : grendel
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  You know what my favourite thing about Uncharted is? It's that the end isn't a cliffhanger or a massive l... : marmite
  • Oh totally. A REAL ending is rare these days. : bakanoodle
  • this is a really good point, pretty awesome how the game actually has a fucking ending instead of being s... : veras
• Uncharted and Little Big Planet were two games that I didn't think I'd like much that are now two of my f... : Rauol Duke
• I'll probably get a PS3 the next time Dell posts a good deal on it. They had the $399.99 model for about ... : bstrad
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  I was really hoping they'd tighten up the combat in 2 (and they still might I dunno) but the beta and vid... : Begawkiness
  • That would make me really sad. I will say that if the controls are the same I won't bother with it. While... : Magus