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  the game i liked most that'll probably be mostly passed over is Red Faction: Guerrilla : dirge23
  • hellllllllll yes. that game was glorious, and i loved 8 out of every 10 seconds of it (fucking expert rac... : xsoulbrothax
  • Yes! This is my choice for game of the year. : voodooraze
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  Torchlight : tashtego
  • Fuck yeah. : funnynamehere
• Street Fighter IV for reinvigorating the fighting genre. : getfrisky
• My top three is Brutal Legend, TrialsHD, and Tiger 10. : Deathlove
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  Batman, easily the biggest surprise and one of the most pleasing games I played this year. : LoioshDwaggie
  • I agree. That game was a lot of fun. Far from most movie/comic book video games that are terrible. : FormerHPB
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  Odius Tea or Shadow Complex. : Dschinghis Khan
  • oh yeah, i change my first choice to Dawn of War II : Dschinghis Khan
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  Demon's Souls : mechanicalgrape
  • vote++ : notdeadyeti
  • definitely this : yAak
  • ^^This! I was not expecting to get so addicted to this game. : DscytheX
• xcom : deadfish
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  Demon's Soul : Fredrik S
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    I'm scared to play this because I'll end up breaking the controller, tv, or both : deadfish
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      It's not that frustrating. Just keep a cool head and be patient : MrLobo
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        Exactly. It follows a rare paradigm in gaming: firm but fair. The only frustrating aspect is knowing that... : David Craddock
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          no, this game is really gay when you are in body form and random people can join your game and fuck you u... : mrseldowski
          • Why not just play offline then? : mechanicalgrape
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            Then don't play in body form, that's basically the equivalent of flagging PvP. : Zek
            • As much as I like black phantom's coming into the game unexpectedly I did wish at times that you could tu... : bcyde
    • It's only "hard" in the sense you can't go running around and mindlessly hit things expecting to win. Yo... : walker270
    • I'm surprised to say that even at the very worst, the game is never frustrating. Exasperating, dishearte : kallanta
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  Warhammer 40k: Dawn of War 2 - released in February, it has all but fallen off most reviewers radars, s... : CoreContingency
  • reminds me, I meant to put "maybe something that was released at the beginning of the year so people forg... : veras
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    Oh hell yeah, Dawn of War 2 gets honorable mention from me. I wanted to go with something even less well ... : Duffman8369
    • Same here, such a great game. The fact that they completely revamped multi and added a new game mode lat... : midgetherder
• DEMON'S SOULS : Rehevkor
• Demons souls or street fighter 4 : eeeealmo
• Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection (yes, I'm cheating). Otherwise, Brutal Legend. : kallanta
• I like the new Red Faction game. : digweed014
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  TRINE The experience I had with that game was sublime. It was probably the game that gave me the most ... : Duffman8369
  • ^^ This LOVED that game. : RogerDandy
  • Trine was indeed a great game. : Arctic Fox
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    I really need to go back and finish Trine, I kinda just stopped at some point : veras
    • I played this past weekend with a couple of friend who had never heard of it. We played through the whole... : VectorJKL
  • Another vote for Trine. Proper indie game and utterly lovely. : node
  • Trine really was awesome. : Whistler77
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  Tie between Demon's Souls, Batman: AA, and Plants vs Zombies. New SMB Wii is also excellent. : David Craddock
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    Pretty sure Batman doesn't count. : mittense
    • True, but I felt internal guilt at not mentioning it. :( : David Craddock
• Shadow Complex by far. Fantastic game. : Yanks
• Demon's Souls and Half-Minute Hero. : mittense
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  Dawn of War 2 or Shadow Warrior : Degenerate
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    lol @ Shadow Warrior. Shadow Complex! : Degenerate
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      everybody look how dumb degenerate is look : Deathlove
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        I think the box in my car may sit there a few more days >:( : Degenerate
        • D: : Deathlove
    • Shadow Warrior is better than Shadow Complex. Regards to you, Mr. Woo! : CrabsJarrard
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  Torchlight : megarust32
  • Runner-up: Trials HD : megarust32
  • ^^^ is my pick : melkore
  • yup. runner up: shadow complex third: plants vs. zombies :D : waxthirteen
  • Same here. All this at a cent an hour of fun. : freqq28
• L4D2 is my game of the year :( It has definitely been played the most : Halen
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  I'll prolly be the only one to mention it, but fuck it: Borderlands. I love this game! : chiisu81
  • Hmm I agree, add that as my third. : valcan_s
• Dragon Age: Origins or Torchlight NOT Demon's Souls : valcan_s
• The Void, for me. Fascinating game. : Arceihn
• my vote has to go to Shadow Complex. i was really surprised on how good it was. : mayooms
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  DEMON'S SOULS : walker270
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    Would you play with Semen's Dolls? : Dave-A
    • you had me at semen : dirge23
• Might and Magic: Clash of Heroes for the DS Nobody is talking about this game, but it's a ton of fun.... : wretchedradio
• Demon's Souls or Monster Hunter Freedom Unite : Majuju
• Either Demon's Souls, Uncharted 2, or L4D2 for me. : irrerno
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  Captain Forever. : Sgt_Boomstick
  • Right on! Or Capt. Successor. :) : Damodred
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  Left 4 Dead 2! : Durajim
  • Runner up: Red Faction Guerrilla (PC) - Some of the most fun i've had in a single player game for ages. :... : Durajim
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  InFAMOUS or Batman: AA for me : jbury
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    "that isn't one of the mega blockbusters" : nurglich
    • Was InFAMOUS a blockbuster? How do you define a blockbuster? : jbury
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  Assassin's Creed 2 though I'm probably in the minority here. Runner ups would be Batman, L4D2, MW2, and B... : Simulacrum
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    That's a lot of blockbusters you mentioned... : kallanta
    • Yeah I guess I fail at reading the original post. Ok Demon's Souls it is. : Simulacrum
    • He missed the twist. : OmegaRed59
  • Agree. EASILY my GOTY, with UC2 slightly behind and then shadow complex : retarded talking dinosaur
• Batman AA : skelom
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  i dont get L4D2 as game of the year. it's basically the same game with more weapons : dantastic
  • nope : Zek
• Quake live : hobohun7er
• Torchlight. : Omning
• Demon's Souls with inFamous being a close second. : Iazu
• Trials HD!! : OmegaRed59
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  Non-blockbuster... Machinarium for me. A cool point'n'click adventure game with an amazing graphical styl... : inchwide
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    are the Mahcinarium puzzles good, or are there bullshit ones? : veras
    • Some puzzles are actual mini-games, and other are the usual interaction with the world. They're mostly pr... : inchwide
  • Yeah I was going to say this. Could have been longer though.... : dnuts
• inFamous was my biggest surprise, I mean it looked OK but I really really enjoyed it. PixelJunk Shooter ... : Begawkiness
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  Shadow Complex : giant boy detective
  • ^^^ : Jackass1233
• Didn't finish it but Batman:AA : akirabob
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  demon's souls and shadow complex are kinda mega blockbusters. they both sold a shitload of copies : JINKY
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    i think only like 3 or 4 people even mentioned games in this thread that didn't sell a shitload of copies : JINKY
    • maybe if you would have said mention games that aren't super high profile!! : JINKY
    • I would hardly consider Demon's Souls a mega blockbuster, even kind of. : mechanicalgrape
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      Demon's Souls wasn't a mega blockbuster. The reason it sold out was because Atlus really undershot deman... : walker270
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        well yeah, but it's still a really high profile game among hardcore gamers. not exactly a sleeper or anyt... : JINKY
        • Strictly due to word-of-mouth. I'd consider "mega blockbuster" something with significant financial back... : walker270
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  Neotokyo : Navy Spitfire
  • oh yeah, that was fantastic. the only online shooter aside from tf2 thats held my interest in recent year... : jujubeads
  • Man, I keep forgetting to DL this and try it out. I'm a big GitS fan so I know I'll like it. If I get som... : dfay
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    I love this game, but no shackers play it anymore. : thecatinthehat
    • I do! Everyday. There are like 3 servers left though, sadly; two NA, 1 Euro : Navy Spitfire
  • interesting choice. It is a fun mod, but really have there been ANY good mods out this year? To me the... : X-GOUKI
• Zeno Clash : Cihte
• Batman and Uncharted 2 are in a dead heat for me. : acheron
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  PS3 - Uncharted 2 Xbox - Shadow Complex : steve_o
  • Lots of people failed to follow the rules of the thread but you did it SPECTACULARLY. Good job. : king_darius
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  I have to go with the three games that came out of nowhere to secure a place: Shadow Complex, Torchlight,... : Masem
  • Torchlight is good but overrated IMO, it has a bunch of balance/design issues. Most importantly, for a lo... : Zek
• Not GOTY material, but HotD:Overkill was a lot of fun, even with how horribly laggy the Wii controls are. : qwpeoriu
• Dragon Age has been an amazing ride. Can't wait to start it again. I'm at the very end now and can alread... : royalally
• I didn't get to play it until this year, so can't Fallout 3 be GOTY again? : zyklonbee
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  Demon's Souls was such a great unique experience, that while technically not the best game of the year, i... : Boxelder
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    Manchanted! : kallanta
    • That word is mantastic : Boxelder
• Doom Classic for the iPhone. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  50 Cent: Blood on the Sand : bakanoodle
  • I was shocked at how much fun I had with this game. Script was hilarious, too. : Head Rush
  • It has no splitscreen co-op, right? : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Not GOTY material but it was really fun : Serpico74
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  Killing Floor. I keep coming back to it, and it's still ultra fun. Best Dual Wielding in a game, and BY F... : AxeMan808
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    I'll take it! : Full.Bleed
    • I SM'd you like 2 hours ago. : AxeMan808
• Ratchet and Clank: A Crack in Time : theBorgie
• Wolverine. : CoRDS
• The Beatles: Rock Band, more so after each subsequent DLC album release. : My Documents
• Dragon Age : Mondo
• Team Fortress 2...the game that continues to deliver. : PenicillinX57
• DEMON'S SOULS : xwer
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  street fighter IV, easy. That or starcraft II screenshots. : Foxhawk
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    I would say that is a blockbuster and therefore disqualified. What else did you like Foxhawk? : OmegaRed59
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      street fighter IV alternate costume DLC : Foxhawk
      • I would say that is not a game. : Nali4Freedom
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    The man with the plan. Man I keep telling myself to start playign this again. February is going to be bru... : boomstickah
    • SSFIV is just "spring" and might slip into summer. : Foxhawk
    • Play HDR w/ me! : ratman
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  Torchlight for sure. I wish Shadow Complex would get a port to PC / Steam. I'd love to play it. : pyide
  • I wonder if Microsoft's new "Games on Demand" for GFWL will compel them to release this one on PC? Even i... : pyide
• Man can you give me a list? I have lost track of what games came out this year. I would probably have : OverloadUT
• Saboteur -- underrated and underappreciated very fun game. : LemonJoose
• Red Faction: Guerrilla by a wide margin. : Sexpansion Pack

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  When I travel and need to rent a car, I usually rent something nice. This is a way for me to try other ca : haiku
  • Ug, those gauge displays on the console are awful. : LoioshDwaggie
  • this thread is stupid, any pics from the suns game? : maulla
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    I love that the speedometer goes up to like 2 billion miles per hour, where really it should go up to may... : trOmblyj
    • the speedometer on this car goes up to 190mph... : trOmblyj
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      If you had a very straight flat road for like 3 miles... you could probably get it to 160. : haiku
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        Right, I have no doubt - that's not my point. If you are going to do 'normal' driving in this car, how o... : trOmblyj
        • Well that is every car then, and I am not sure I understand your problem. It isn't helpful to have so muc... : haiku
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    Yeah, i'm pretty sure my wife will kill us both when hers gets her this spring. : Boxelder
    • Also she kind agree with everything you said but she want a "big dumb muscle car" and judging by what you... : Boxelder
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    Why the FUCK would you put those gauges down there in the center? God damn that's retarded. : kikilupo
    • the camaro of the 70's had that so they put it in as a nod to their heritage. although it was poor desig... : Mr.SEX
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    why are the gauges in front of the shifter? : DonkeyPopsicle
    • Those are only Oil Temp, Oil Pressure, Transmission Temp, and Battery Voltage. And they are there so ... : haiku
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    Did you find a solution for your throat-slitting belt issue? I drove a Prius down in Irvine a couple o... : Dave-A
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      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21362647 : haiku
      • Much nicer than my "jam some packing foam in there" idea : Dave-A
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    same engine as my car + 800-900 lbs : gmd
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      They detune the engine a bit in every other car they put it in. The G8 GXP is the same way. Always a few... : FormerHPB
      • no, they forgot to actually detune it. or they used to, at least. the old camaro z28/SS's would dyno high... : xsoulbrothax
  • Oh god. Looks like a Wal-Mart boom box marketed to middle school kids: http://haiku.shacknews.com/ss2/u... : Zakko
  • the last paragraph of the long version really sold the short version : das_runt
  • :( : drodver
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    I'm very shocked you didn't mention the awful steering wheel. that's the first thing I noticed when I sa... : FormerHPB
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      Compared to the masterpiece of a steering wheel in my car, every steering wheel sucks. When it is time to... : haiku
      • take the steering wheel with you : gmd
      • No shit; there's lots to be said of a good steering wheel that most people probably don't even think abou... : Entity
  • That console. It's like the tranny of cars. Two breasts and a cock. : trove
  • The Camaro is to other cars as Alienware desktops are to other desktops : MisterPhoton
  • your last paragraph had me laughing out loud. funny thing is, i felt the same way when i rented one of... : virus
  • Instrument cluster-fuck. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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    What kind of faggot ass track do you go to where people have . 911s, M3s, and RS4s? Some road bullshi... : Jimbo Ro
    • I didn't want to say ferraris, lambos, and atoms because any consumer sports car looks kind of lo-fi comp... : haiku
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      a good one? One day I am taking my car to a track with traction control off and promptly die it will be ... : gmd
      • Bull shit you will never track it, and it will be sad. : cpt_gloval
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        oh gmd the camaro has a traction control button that if you tap changes the LCD display in the dashboard ... : haiku
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          mine has that:( competition mode displays traction control but leaves on active handling, if you hold the... : gmd
          • the white model self destructs over 88mph : Downforce
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            Have you ever disabled both? : Ellissd
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              yes but you only notice when you push the car, daily driving you won't notice it at all : gmd
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                once when it was raining i totally disabled my traction and stability controls and tried to swing the bac... : FrayLo
                • the only dumbass thing I have done thus far is flooring it and going to the top of 3rd gear : gmd
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          The vette does the same thing. :) : FormerHPB
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            they shouldn't even have it in the camaro since it can't turn : gmd
            • mine is all on or all off. Even with it on you still slide a little bit. Scares the crap out of my wife... : FormerHPB
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      wait, wait, wjw, what? i don't get it, are those dumb cars to take to a track, because i saw my fair sha... : FrayLo
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        no idea. sherlock there might still be wondering if they have roads? : Downforce
        • Roads? Where we're going we don't need roads. : cpt_gloval
      • get your gay sub $100k car off my track : arizona bay
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      Jimbo Ro, what are you talking about? : filtersweep
      • poor people should not take their cars to the track : FrayLo
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        This is the only appropriate response to anything he posts : maulla
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          I was just thinking the same thing : Dave-A
          • Most of us were : Serpico74
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        Obviously, Jimbo's idea of a track is a straight stretch of pavement that is 1/4 mile long or maybe one o... : Gnowknayme
        • When reading about a Camaro that is the only track I would think to take it. The drag way is about the l... : Jimbo Ro
      • Bringing up 911s, M3s and what ever what ever else in a thread about the biggest WT car ever is like talk... : Jimbo Ro
  • the console/center instrument cluster is truly ugly as hell. the steering wheel is stupid too. : FrayLo
  • it's not exactly a road course car. take it to the strip and you'll get a bunch of mullets hurring and dr... : cpt_gloval
  • If any car screamed penis compensation this would be it or at least in the top 5. : Fred Garvin
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    Is that Peoria, AZ? : royalally
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      north scottsdale. But thank you for proving my point that everything in this shit hole looks exactly the ... : haiku
      • my favorite part about going to that part of the country is you can see the entire god damn city from any... : gmd
      • fucking phoenix. : royalally
  • Yes, the styling and the cockpit is bad, but you left off the absolute worst feature of the car. Huge bli... : Colleton
  • tl;dr: haiku's a communist that hates america. that car is ugly and such an abomination of its heritage, : yacoub35
  • hahaha. this is going in my pantheon of all time great shack posts. that last paragraph is incredible. : edgewise
  • Best car review ever. : DinK
  • It's not a sports car. It's a muscle car. : Omning
  • expect more and more sports car to be like this due to the side impact and rear crash standards. : stgdz
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  Meh. The 2011 Mustang GT is going to eat the SS alive. Finally bringing back the 5.0. : TEXIT
  • I just don't like the new Camaro, looks too much like a cartoon for my tastes. : TEXIT
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    what? 5.0 is back? I had a 95 5.0 FURIOUSLY GOOGLING : fotografico
    • google for 5.0 coyote engine. : Colleton
    • The 5.0 Coyote engine will be in the 2011 GT. Rumored specs are 400+ HP / 400+ TQ. Aluminum block. : TEXIT
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    like, the actual WIdsor 302 or some new approximately-5-liter unit? : cpt_gloval
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      New 5 liter engine. : TEXIT
      • aluminum block sounds sexy : cpt_gloval
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  Why did you use PNG for all these photos? : not work safe
  • you can tell the PNGs are the ones he cropped and the JPEGs are the ones he took directly from his camera : electroly
  • he was in a camaro, give him some slack : Downforce
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  It's a throwback to the '69 Camaro, there's going to be some silly things in there. And that trunk isn't... : pres589
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    the opening to put stuff in the trunk is pretty tiny though. : FormerHPB
    • Exactly. Everything about the new Camaro is impractical. I feel like I'm sitting in a coffin with tiny ... : TEXIT
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      Yeah, the trunk isn't that small, but the opening is stupidly small. : Colleton
      • I had a girlfriend like that once. No fun at all after dark! : Dave-A
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    it's really not though. it's a fat-assed, ugly car that they stuck a few things on to make people think o... : yacoub35
    • it looks like a korean car to me, and that's not a good thing. : cpt_gloval
    • A few things? It's extremely influenced both inside and out by the '69. I'm not sure why you would argu... : pres589
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    I'd like to see those volumes relative to the size of the car. It almost doesn't matter though because l... : DinK
    • No argument on the opening, but call a spade a spade. : pres589
• I do like how the center console doesn't make any sense at all other than trying to look like it belongs ... : gmd
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  This review is perfect. I really, really don't like domestic cars. The Camero is an abomination. : phipple
  • so is your spelling of "Camaro" : samekh
  • You don't like American cars and you think the Camaro is an abomination? HOLY SHIT MY MIND IS BLOWN : cpt_gloval
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    It cracks me up how people can put all domestics into one single group. : TEXIT
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      I hate all european cars because of the trabant. : stump
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        Japanese cars suck because the civic is slow. : cpt_gloval
        • German cars suck because they are overly complicated............ : TEXIT
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      no kidding, like there's one design team in the United States that pumps out cars with all the same fault... : DonkeyPopsicle
      • Half of them are mostly imports anyhow. : cpt_gloval
    • It cracks me up how you assume I have no experience with several domestic cars over the years. I didn't l... : phipple
  • You're all assuming I've had no experience with domestic cars. Here's a jump to conclusions mat for all y... : phipple

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• Hahhahahhaha. That's a great write-up. : LoioshDwaggie
• why don't you just marry him : dantastic
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  Hahahaha! This post almost makes me want to buy L4D2 just to play with dognose. : Bean
  • You should. Dognose is awesome to play L4D2 with. Unless you only like playing versus, then you're SOL. : Maddog_Delphi97
  • It really is quite fun, dognose is quite funny to play with. : MacemanInTW
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    It's $30 on Amazon right now. http://www.amazon.com/Left-4-Dead-2-Pc/dp/B002BRYXRQ : pancake humper
    • Just for today! : pyrogen
    • Bought! i want to play with some shackers. :) : StolenNosferatu
• "He's almost like a doctor in real life" bwahahahahha classic dognose : Mad Brahmin Disease
• same reason I play easy mode sometimes, you can do ridiculous crap there. it's great. : ]pm[chem
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  When Halen, CrimsonHandHiro, MonkeyWench and myself play, it's usually on easy, and it's SO fun. I mean I... : tomservo
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    quit taking my spot in that game! : Degenerate
    • <3 you both! : TheMonkeyWench
    • Haha suckerrrr : tomservo
• Lebowski LOL now I want to play with Dognose!!! I'll be like John Goodman: "Donny shut the fuck up" : Simulacrum
• This is the complete opposite of how I play. It's the same three friends, every night, and we only play A... : notd665
• You guys better still be playing after xmas, I'm getting Windows 7 and installing it and then buying L4D2... : brickmatt
• Edgewise, just ask me. I have resources at my disposal that can make any number of things possible for y... : Maddog_Delphi97
• Haha, this sums up the dognose L4D experience quite nicely. : midgetherder
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  I just sent Mo http://www.snopes.com/photos/natural/godhands.asp : dognose
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    Immortality. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      Mo really enjoyed playing with edgewise; very easygoing and has a calming voice. : dognose
      • oh he's awesome, no doubt. : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • we could tell from his expression playing Rock Band! : Postal
• hahah great story. : Bull
• Awesome write-up of your experience. There ain't nothing wrong with taking it easy and having a good time... : BlackCat9
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  I think it would be an entertaining precedent if from now on people would leave the Shack servers by anou... : mrtony
  • I'm going to leave by announcing "it's mrtony's fault!!". >:D : Maddog_Delphi97
• I just played L4D2 for the first time. Played team versus with 3 friends of a friend - I barely know them... : rock elf
• fuck yes! : das_runt
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  Will somebody, for the love of god, invite me to this shacknews steam community or whatever it is, I real... : Snipergen
  • Thanks :) : Snipergen
• Ha ha ha, no wonder he doesn't like Verse and plays with Maddog. I like being competitive, don't care if ... : locater16
• I just wish easy wasn't so easy! I can deal with zombies doing one damage per hit and no friendly fire, b... : pyide
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  how can i sign up for shack server access? im theratdotus on steam : sanewave
  • No players called 'theratdotus' when I search on Steam. Link to your steam profile, like this: http://st... : bipolar
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  Dang I hope some of you are up for another newb!! I said screw it and just ordered it from Amazon (and... : TempusT
  • Need a link to your steam profile, like this: http://steamcommunity.com/id/captain_wow : bipolar
• Cool write-up though he doesn't sound terribly fun to play with - I suppose it could be amusing laughing ... : wytefang

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• pretty much. it makes me feel good that i beat almost the entire game without any help. i only brought : grendel
• What are you talking about, I don't even have this game! : enyakk
• This one made me laugh : Schnapple
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  tl;dr: is he all skelomeh about it? : CrustaR
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    he gives a big FU to the game for being beyond hard : skelom
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      That's because he is not part of Hard Game Club. : CrustaR
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        You two really need to get a room and stop stroking each others 'meh's. : DrZettl
        • eat it : skelom
        • DrZettl, are you jealous? How cute. : CrustaR
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  If he sucks at the game enough that he couldn't beat the dogs under the ramparts in 1-2 then he shouldn't... : giant boy detective
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    he's saying that he went there and died to them. i think everyone who wasn't reading a guide died at leas... : JINKY
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      I sure as hell did. Scared the shit out of me too. : breadsticks
      • I turned tail & ran like a little girl. : o0JediBeavis0o
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        The dogs are the nastiest non-black phantom mob in the game, imo. Like I said below, they travel in pa... : walker270
        • A single strong attack from most weapons will take them down. I'm sure I died to them at one point from ... : omnova
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          I can only recall dying to the dogs once, and that was the second time I faced them. And then only becaus... : carbontree
          • Dogs were the ultimate "you're getting too cocky, and now you die" mob for me. I died to them multiple t... : walker270
    • lol ya that part had me rolling. Those dogs pwnt me on the first try. It was one of those "wtf am i even ... : technotica
• That's the one! : omnova
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  That was a good one Too bad he couldn't play more than the first level (pussy!) : MrLobo
  • I suspect he just got tired of the gameplay? : LoioshDwaggie
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  The best part of that? I quit the game right when he did. When I got through that shit with the Drago... : virus
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    look another pussy! : MrLobo
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      Sorry, I like to enjoy my video games. : virus
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        WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH : walker270
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          I hope you're just being silly, walker. This kind of attitude I see here is one of the things I despise t... : LoioshDwaggie
          • stop trying to foment community : yacoub35
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            i was thinking the same thing about most of your posts the past few months : grendel
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              You're welcome to point out when I'm doing something you don't like. Just reply to whatever I said to mak... : LoioshDwaggie
              • Having said that, I don't really see what you would have a problem with, reading your post history we see... : LoioshDwaggie
        • hahaha you're so 1337 : virus
      • I understand -- different strokes for different folks and all. What I don't get is, why did you buy th... : piser
  • that part wasn't even hard!! were all of you guys running around without your shield up all the time or ... : Mr.SEX
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    Every new type of enemy encountered in Demon's Souls was pretty much guaranteed to kill you the first tim... : walker270
    • I just used my shield. You just have to wait until all three attack and then counter. : Boxelder
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      'try and die' is not a gameplay mechanic everyone finds appealing. It's a large reason why Hitman Bloodmo... : derelict515
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        Playing DS with patience and caution will keep it from being a "try and die" game. IIRC, the dogs in 1... : walker270
        • yup, that goes for the entire game. This is a game where you actually should be very afraid of whats ... : technotica
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    hahahah go back to Tetris. : Goto10
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      i love all of these attacks on my "gaming manhood" hahahaha OLO GO BAKK 2 SOOPR MAREO BRUTHRZ NUBFA... : virus
      • SMB might be too hard! : Goto10
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        Well when you express an opinion that goes against the majority (here, anyway), you've got to expect some... : MaxPete82
        • No no it's ok, I've already experienced this thread a few times. It's almost like they're all insult... : virus
      • We're totally serious, too. I bet you gave up trying to match polka dots in Barbie Fashion Designer, too... : omnova
  • Go back to Peggle, virus! : CrustaR
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    ^ Candy ass gamer. : omnova
    • yea! tie some gas-soaked rags around your ankles, virus! : c0bra
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    do play RTS against the AI on easy and build up your defenses + a huge army? : Foxhawk
    • that's my favorite way to play RTS games. =( : mindmann
    • yes :( turtles 4 lyfe : virus
    • for Civ4+BTS, fuck yes. I need it on baby pants diaper bottle easy until I have machine guns. then I can ... : Downforce
  • dogs tearing you apart, lol : semaphore
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    I agree. I haven't picked up Demon's Souls, because I play games for fun, not challenge. Many of the good... : Entity
    • Strange, I play games for fun too. What is "for fun" to you? Pressing X to win? : omnova
    • Demon's Souls' difficulty plays so much into the environment, mood, and emotions of the game that it's mo... : walker270
    • It's not hard for the sake of being hard though. Nothing in the game, that I've seen, comes across as be... : pandastrong
    • OMG UR A PUSSY WWAHHH CRY MOAR NUB lolshack : virus
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      it's really not very hard : Johnny Law
      • Obviously it's a subjective thing, but IMO people do overwork the OMG SO HARD aspect. With the excepti : Johnny Law
    • There is a difference between "high learning curve" and hard. Most people see high learning curve, assum... : twifosp
    • Demon's Souls is not a difficult game. It is a game that does not allow you to be inattentive, one that r... : Ebu
    • For a lot of people challenge = fun, if you can believe that. Dragon Age and Max Payne rule! : locater16
    • When you accomplish something challenging, it's rewarding. It's something NES era games were very good a... : Goto10
• Demon's Souls is NOT for everyone. You have to like hard games. You have to like games that are expressly : carbontree
• Not everyone has to like hard games, but please stay away from LFD as I'm tired of playing with people wh... : Boxelder
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  • one of my favorite series. ultimate ghosts n goblins for the psp was awesome. : BaronVonSnakPak
  • Fuck that. Play Sinistar. I've gotten TO level 3 like 4 times. : AxeMan808
  • I remember beating that game on the SNES when I was a kid. I don't know how I did it, but I think havi... : X-GOUKI
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  To enjoy DS, you have to be willing to play the game on their terms, not try to play it the way you expec... : grendel
  • good post! for a warlock : Downforce
• Yup, in about 9 days :) : jasoncrowley
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  Yahtzee seems to be really bad at all video games, honestly. He's often confused by elementary concepts ... : Majuju
  • Yeah, this review pretty much confirmed my suspicions that he's completely terrible at video games : veras
  • i think alot of video game reviewers are strangely not very skilled at games. I think it's because they'... : kainen1
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  oh sweet, watching now! Cant wait to hear yahtzee go the fuk off on this gem of a game. : technotica
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    Actually, out of his reviews this isn't really that negative. He calls it frustrating, difficult and unfo... : LoioshDwaggie
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      It is difficult but its not cheap difficult. It is very unforgiving though... : technotica
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        Yeah, about the only thing I'd call cheap is that there is no way for you to tell a new enemy's difficult... : LoioshDwaggie
        • Sure there is. *.mob : IT WILL KILL YOU DEAD. *.boss_mob : IT WILL KILL YOU DEAD FASTER. Your defa... : walker270
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          Approach every new enemy like one capable of one-shotting you. Because more often than not, that's the ca... : carbontree
          • yup, being purely mage spec, and fighting as melee, i was subject to alot of one shots on my second play ... : technotica
• I feel bad for all the people who can't appreciate why this game is so great :( : dewdman
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  I find Demon's Souls to be roughly on par with The Getaway. Same level of frustration and both have some ... : roushimsx
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    You know it autosaves everytime you quit? It doesn't have a pause but you don't have to be glued to the T... : NastyJack
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      The autosave is broken and heaven forbid your network connection is interrupted for whatever reason while... : roushimsx
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        I believe C is the case. If you exit out to the media bar it'll save the state of your current area inclu... : LoioshDwaggie
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          That was not my experience while playing and I missed out on more than one bit of loot : roushimsx
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            There really isn't much in the way of dropped loot in the game. Outside of named black phantoms, I can t... : walker270
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              Knight's Shield can be found (along with the Knight's Sword) outside the boss area of 1-4. I know becaus... : sevogajre
              • Maybe I just wanted them sooner than that, then.. ha : walker270
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        Those are pretty minor. I've only had the network problem affect me once and it was an annoyance, not a d... : NastyJack
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          Those are pretty minor for you. I've had a number of issues with the inability to pause and I've had mult... : roushimsx
          • Play offline? Not being able to pause isn't a big issue. Unless you're alive and playing online, you ... : walker270
      • I see what your saying but in all reality those a mute points. "playing" the game is what makes it fun. Y... : technotica
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  I think he though he should be playing this like some sort of Diablo clone, and that makes me sad. Dem... : DianeOfTheMoon
  • Blue Eyed knights are mad easy if you can time your parry's correctly. You can get like a 1 or 2 hit kill... : technotica
  • "If you ever run across something that is extremely hard or seems impossible, you're doing something wron... : technotica
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  Not being able to pause a game to go handle Real Life(TM) is fucking retarded bullshit. I don't fucking ... : old and busted vs the new hotness
  • Use a Splinter of Keystone or Use the Evacuate Miracle. It will take you back to the Nexus, but you'll be... : carbontree
  • I doubt id be worried about my "score" if the need arose to where i was needed to rush someone to the ER... : technotica
  • Also... enemies dont respawn so you can literally just stand there and not worry about getting killed. (u... : technotica
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  giantbombs quicklook for thius was funny, game looked so horribly frustrating. : chilln
  • It's not for those prone to controller abuse, that is for sure. : carbontree
  • I enjoy GiantBomb but sometimes they reaallllly need to buckle up their Special Helmets when doing their ... : Johnny Law
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  I'm hoping gamestop drops the price on their used copies so I can give it a go. All the talk about bein... : X-GOUKI
  • It is hard and frustrating, but its mad fun. I got into a rythm where id tackle a new area each night. (i : technotica

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  You really don't. You think you do, but then you'll eventually realize that the Air is ridiculously overp... : jason bergman
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    How can it be overpriced. If you really want something that thin and light (and a lot of people do), then... : haiku
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      Then they are deluded because the Air's battery won't last all day. : Arctic Fox
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        who said they were using it all day? : tashtego
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          Exactly, I mean after all it's not really a laptop so much as it is a status symbol and fashion accessory... : Fred Garvin
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            Fred Garvin joining threads to say predictable and stupid bullshit : haiku
            • haiku defending Apple and missing the point. : Fred Garvin
          • lol : eeeealmo
          • It's not really a Fred Garvin post so much as it is a status symbol and fashion accessory. : tashtego
          • Fred I've used them. They are very much functional laptops. : EvilDolemite
          • Fred Garvin post. : virus
          • It's a laptop : J4NUS
          • Fred Garvin. Just talking about whatever : hussdelrio
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            I agree FG. Apple devices have become a status symbol among the middle class. A large number of people bu... : slickdoody
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              it's both. they can be and are stylish status symbols, but they also happen to be the best hardware in th... : xsoulbrothax
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                "best in class" is debateable. but that would need its own thread: (THREAD HIJACK) : GoodBoy
                • Ah ok, I'd say Thinkpads are up there, just aimed at a totally different subset of awesome. :D : xsoulbrothax
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              I don't know. I see Apple products now being the target for nerd rage simply because of their increased ... : walker270
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                Up at Mizzou if you don't have an apple laptop you are not a journalist...because the school requires the... : thief
                • Find a new school? : GoodBoy
                • And? : pres589
          • 5 replies and Garvin sends this whole thread off the rails. GG Garvin, GG. : pres589
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      Sorry, but no, $1500 is not "pretty fair" for a machine with those specs. $500 max. The Air is a presenta... : jason bergman
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        so, it's basically like a netbook but with a larger display? : Halen
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          And a bigger keyboard, and might have more power I don' know. : OmegaRed59
          • don't : OmegaRed59
        • No, it's a full-powered machine : EvilDolemite
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        haha "Sorry, but no" ummmmmmmmmmm uh, heh The Air is supposed to be a presentation and web ... : haiku
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          So it's worth it if you have to travel a lot and give presentations? Probably not worth it if you wan... : MagicWishMonkey
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            If all you are doing is Powerpoint style presentations there are alternatives that are more cost effectiv... : Fred Garvin
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              Well, if you're giving a client presentation style is important (even if it's not relevant to the project... : MagicWishMonkey
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                Do you really think anyone has won a contract because they showed a Powerpoint on an Macbook Air? : Fred Garvin
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                  This is a terrific example of what a one-dimensional and ineffective thinker you are. MagicWishMonkey ... : haiku
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                    Heh, I picture an apple commercial: Do you want to wear shorts to your interview ... or a suit?!, etc. ... : thief
                    • remember that hilarious 80's mac print ad? it was the reverse. macs used to be casual, hip, and less rese... : Downforce
                    • Most formal presentations I do involve me setting my laptop on a podium with all the projector controls a... : riptyde
                  • Prove to me that making a presentation on an Air makes any amount of difference at all, any, even a littl... : Fred Garvin
                • Do we think that the SOLE factor in the client's decision was the device upon which the presentation was ... : Ebu
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              What do you think is in the Macbook Air? It's a 2ghz Core 2 Duo, 2gb RAM and a graphics card that can ... : peanut-
              • That's why I said netbook style, i.e. smaller form factor than a standard laptop. It's kind of a middle g... : Fred Garvin
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                how does it compare to this though http://www.amazon.com/UL30Vt-X1-13-3-Inch-Laptop-Windows-Premium/dp/B0... : derelict515
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                  Intel SU7300 Core 2 Duo 1.3GHz Processor + NVidia G210M Graphics with 512MB DDR3 + Intel GMA 4500MH... : pres589
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                    the CPU overclocks to 1.7 as necessary, and iirc it gets 50fps in HL2. But let's be honest here, no one i... : derelict515
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                      The OS X desktop is helped by a good GPU, and whenever developers start using OpenCL in their 10.6 applic... : Serpico74
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                        sure, but that laptop has a dedicated GPU that will do just fine for any of those tasks. The integrated g... : derelict515
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                          Absolutely, and I really like the 12 hour battery it has, that's cool. Where does it say that the CPU ove... : Serpico74
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                            they call it 'Turbo33': ASUS has innovatively designed the UL30Vt-X1 to provide you even more performa : derelict515
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                              That's cool, first machine in that size that is actually price competitive with the MBA : Serpico74
                              • Yeah, I'd say it's more than just price competitive, it's practically half the cost and includes a great ... : derelict515
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                      derel, I thought about this long and hard, and your new Shack name should be "Excuse Factory". Why don... : pres589
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                        I thought about this quickly and your name should be 'FailsToRead'.The overclocking is not some hardcore ... : derelict515
                        • here're the actual benchmarks: http://hothardware.com/Articles/Asus-UL80Vt-ThinAndLight-Notebook-Review/?... : derelict515
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          why are you wanting this over a netbook? Seems like you could get something for half the price with bette... : byorn
          • Having a full size keyboard, touchpad and display would probably make it worth it. : Fish_Bulb
        • Ice Burn. I hope I am never not your friend. : not work safe
      • You don't think engineering and miniaturization cost anything? I'd never buy an Air myself, but it's a... : peanut-
      • You could say the same thing about the iPhone. : not work safe
      • Don't forget that you're not buying just the specs, but the software and general build quality. I know... : Nitrium
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      There are alternatives that are smaller, lighter, and cheaper with more or less equivalent performance. : ColoradoCNC
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        What are they? Genuinely curious. : peanut-
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          I know that MSI (iirc) put out a competitor recently that was getting really good reviews. Same size, sli... : ColoradoCNC
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            nope. you're thinking of an X-Slim, and they use CULV processors -- much lower clock speeds (about 1.3-1... : Postal
            • And Intel integrated GPUs versus an Nvidia 9400M : Serpico74
          • The only thing I can think of is the Lenovo Thinkpad X series. : pres589
        • I am curious as well! Smaller, lighter, and cheaper with equivalent performance? I don't know about that. : OmegaRed59
        • http://www.amazon.com/UL30Vt-X1-13-3-Inch-Laptop-Windows-Premium/dp/B002XZLURC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=pc&qi... : derelict515
      • but they don't run OS X (or if they do, it's a hack and likely to break) People buy the Air because th... : tashtego
      • Considering that Lenovo and Dell's competing ultraportables are slower while costing more, I call shenani... : Serpico74
  • Considering that competing Dell and Lenovo notebooks in similar form factors have slower CPUs, slower GPU... : Serpico74
• I want a pony, an Apocalypse Pony! ^_^ "punishing mankind for their siiiiiinssss....." : chiisu81
• Macbook Air refurbished, they are about the same price as a macbook. : not work safe
• The Magic Mouse should be as relatively light as the Air, but it isn't. It's too heavy :( : stuka
• They are very nice : EvilDolemite
• apple thread. price is irrelevant. just buy the stuff. resistance is futile. : Downforce
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  A guy at work told me the other day he was switching to all Apple computers because they are more cost ef... : Patch-e
  • I think the research out there agrees with this, yes. : pres589
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  19 screws to change the battery. No way to upgrade the ram. Having to install windows xp for powerpoint p... : ryuuseki
  • lol : Patch-e
• Then ye shall have one. : freqq28
• the magic mouse is awesome... much better than the mighty mouse in both usability and feel. : j0nchan

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• Looks awesome. Can't wait to clean my head from the error that was Double Agent. : NFXFSX
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  Oh come on! This is some hot coop action. Nobody liked the Chaos Theory coop ? : MrLobo
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    I'm still getting over when you told me looong ago this would have no co-op. I'll have to watch this late... : Bull
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      Hey that was true back then! : MrLobo
      • I'm sure it was. Well, I just watched your trailer. This will be the first game i buy on release day in y... : Bull
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  Triple-bumb Come on fags I'm busting my ass at work making this shit work . Don't tell me nobody car... : MrLobo
  • It looks awesome! : AlexXdude
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  Wut, Tom Clancy? Since when has he been involved with the Splinter Cell series? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    The Tom Clancy name has been attached to the series since the first game : AlexXdude
    • ah really? Huh. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Oh yes. Coop.. oh yes. I loved me some Chaos Theory coop! Now to just find someone to play this with..... : Pacalon
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  Ah yes MrLobo I was just wondering the other day what you've been working on. That trailer basically jus... : choppp
  • You won't be disappointed! : MrLobo
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  Welp, time to buy X360. : mem
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    this is not coming out for PC? : Nitrium
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      That would probably be the biggest fail ever. : mlev
      • http://www.gamestop.com/browse/ProductMerch.aspx?groupid=488&affid=8403&WT.mc_id=splinter : mlev
    • It's PC/Xbox exclusive : MrLobo
• Ooo, neato. : Veegeezee
• The second guy sounds like Herc from The Wire. : Haku-Jin
• is the Chaos Theory coop worth $10 per person? : Draugluin
• When do they put bling on their guns, wear skull masks and have gay sex? : five_percent
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  I haven't seen a trailer that screams UE3 like that in a long while. : dravalen
  • That's wonderful. Too bad we are using remnants of UE 2.X with a renderer that got rewritten thrice since... : MrLobo
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  I'll tell you how this looks in five minutes. youtube is paaaaaainfully slow these days. : Turd Ferguson
  • LOL "an error has occurred" wating for HD to buffer. fuuuuuuuuutube : Turd Ferguson
• Nice - looks sweet : virus
• need new plotline plz. russians, rogue agents, stolen nukes, black market, blah, blah, blah : d0pamine
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  incredibill x is online : Foxhawk
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    i bet that guy is gonna get a bunch of random friend requests now : Shadowdane
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      why don't people ever disable xbl alert messages when they record shit? even people on professional we... : DeBurgo
      • (actually that's unfair, people probably do this it's just you notice it when they don't) : DeBurgo
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  Looks great but I find it funny that I keep hearing that ''Bourne'' music in spy stuff nowadays. : ArtilleryMarker
  • they oughta bring back Amon Tobin : Veegeezee
• looks great man! I haven't really played a splinter cell game, but I might have to check this out! : SirX

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  they put you directly into a party with xmas outfit on? I don't get it. So the restore happened? : multisync
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    I logged in and I was in a full Santa suit. I thought it was some kind of sick 'fuck you' from Blizzard b : pancake humper
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      and yes, I have my 3 80's back but they are naked (pancake actually has gear in the bank though) : pancake humper
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        are they going to restore the gear? and any money? : multisync
        • Since he got ride of that on his own, prolly not. : breadsticks
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          Nope. They told him they're restoring it in the state it was deleted in. : LoioshDwaggie
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            ok that's still awesome and i get to make fun of him still. just checking! : multisync
            • i get to make fun of him too it's pretty great! : Mr.SEX
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          Most likely not. The email stated that the characters were restored at point of deletion. I wonder if I w... : pancake humper
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            i'll give you some of your money back but not all of it because i spent it : electroly
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              GIVE ME EVERYTHING : pancake humper
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                i can spare maybe 500g, i only have about 1000g left. people don't buy runecloth any more and i just cra... : electroly
                • i'll make sure to wear the Shattered Sun title that you paid for : electroly
                • My brother makes some crazy money being an inscriptionist. He has some auction house mod that basically ... : atom519
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            I can send you some gold if you are on MG. : atom519
            • I am, sir. : pancake humper
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            It might be worth asking. I had vendored my gear and deleted my characters in the same way as you, and p... : stoned wallaby crop circle
            • yeah I put a ticket in asking. No biggie if I can't get it back. : pancake humper
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            dude, you can buy that Common level armor that the repair/vendor guys always sell that have no bonus stat... : das_runt
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              at around level 40 i saw a guy decked out in whites. he didn't understand the item quality thing at all.... : electroly
              • hahaa one of my friends was like that when he first started, had a lot of whites. i didn't want to pressu... : das_runt
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            How long ago did you delete the characters? And I'm assuming you deleted the items that same day? : Senate5000
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              April 20th, 2009 : pancake humper
              • i'm online and i have more gold than i thought. let's do this : electroly
              • Unlikely then. :( : slax0r
              • Ya you're pretty fucked. Their logs wouldn't go back that far. =/ : Senate5000
          • How long ago were they deleted? Sadly, the logs don't go back that far, and if the items were deleted wi... : slax0r
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  if i remember the video correctly, that's what he was dressed in when you nuked him, isn't it? : g0nk
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    Yeah, I remembered after I posted and checked the video. Don't smoke weed. : pancake humper
    • WHOA WHOA, lets no go too far, ok? : sheepraper
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  characters have 30,000+ HP now in this game? what the hell : Jackass1233
  • i have 48,000 health with 5-man buffs and i have shitty outdated gear. people are way over 50k with buff... : electroly
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    Wondering why he has 10k and the others have 30k : Phreakin
    • because he's wearing nothing but a santa outfit : electroly
  • some bosses hit for 30k. : d0pamine
  • Main tanks for progression guilds have around 55k -60k . Even my rogue has 31k raid buffed now. It is a... : dmaownsyou
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  TONIGHT WE'RE RUNNING HEROICS WOOHOO : electroly
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      i doubt we'll be using LFG since pancake has a gearscore of zero : electroly
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        Everyone would want to join to see the rare specimen. : pancake humper
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          we'll have to get you some greens off the AH at least. you gonna go with your rogue i assume? : electroly
          • yeah : pancake humper
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    Are you on Mal'Ganis too? I just transferred there and I know like 3 people. : Senate5000
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      yeah i am, name is same as shackname : electroly
      • just look for the hottie by the statue by the bank : Downforce
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      Cool. I'll add you tonight when I log in again. My rogue is http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xm... : Senate5000
      • I replied to myself, that's pretty pro. That was meant for Electroly. : Senate5000
  • fuck you guys this is like if I quit using heroin and then you all posted "FUCK WE ARE GETTING SO FUCKING... : tashtego
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  Is there a casual shack guild on Mal Ganis anymore? I'm installing this e-crack now : Horn
  • Blizzards downloading is retarded. I can't understand why they wouldn't just distribute the latest versi... : Horn
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  Why did you quit in the first place?. : xpogox
  • cuz playing hours on end to play with virtual dress-up dolls is a silly idea for 15 a month. i might do i... : reverend~heresy
  • More like why is he playing again? : ant_hillbilly
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  Is there a queue to get into Mal'Ganis? I'm contemplating a server transfer. : das_runt
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    ...and by queue I mean just logging in each day, do you have to wait? : das_runt
    • Since 3.3 hit, we've had a queue during prime time. If you're horde, save yourself the trouble, and don't... : Gnowknayme
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      i sat through a 750 person queue yesterday : electroly
      • I guess this is a good thing about not logging in until after 8pm(pacific). : Senate5000

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• This depresses the fuck out of me. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4s0gXpFQ-g : Dschinghis Khan
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  Death don't have no mercy -Grateful Dead Machine Gun - Band of Gypsys : Lightzout
  • what should i do with this phone number? : ass-street
• Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town - Kenny Rogers and the First Edition I challenge you to find a more... : tashtego
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  If anyone can find a more disturbing, miserable song than Frankie Teardrop by Suicide I'd love to hear it... : NastyJack
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHXA4_O-MXM : Dschinghis Khan
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      I probably made everyone who watched my video commit suicide and I'm sure you finished off any survivors. : NastyJack
      • haha, i actually love that song. : Dschinghis Khan
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  Eels - the entirety of Electro-Shock Blues. Albums written with dying mom/suiciding sister tend to be sad... : Deathlove
  • Agreed, however P.S. You Rock My World is so shamelessly positive that it means you can finish listening ... : Arctic Fox
• Nearly God - Poems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ9pEAABU_I Tricky at his finest. Terry Hall's v... : filtersweep
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  Kansas - Dust in the Wind : socksta
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    My December - Linkin Park I know I'll get shit on for Linkin Park : socksta
    • Fade to Black - Metallica I figure while I'm getting shit on for bads that aren't hip enough : socksta
• I listen to Willie Nelson's "Red Headed Stranger" a lot when I'm bummed. : ass-street
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  smog - all your women things http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGE0s7vk0-c : arizona bay
  • warren zevon - keep me in your heart http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMTKb-pgxGI even sadder if you ... : arizona bay
• Beck - Sea Change : sheepraper
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  Almost anything by Velvet Underground. Almost unbearable to listen to unless you are in a shitty mood. : ruckboos
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    ? Listening to VU makes me happy. Their music is so good. Alot of it is definitely about dark subject ... : NastyJack
    • Well, that's why its Bad Mood music - it makes you feel vaguely better somehow : ruckboos
• Jonestown Tea - Otep : rmjackson
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  Pink Floyd - Is There Anybody Out There? : WaterSign
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    This is good Hey You is another : ruckboos
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      Pretty much the first half of the second disc of The Wall fits in this category. And most parts of the fi... : WaterSign
      • Comfortably Numb is awesome for when you are having trouble getting the energy to get up and do something... : ruckboos
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  Ah forgot an absolute gem- Noir Desir, A Ton Etoile (Yann Tierson Mix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... : Mr.Finkster
  • Deftones- When Girls Telephone Boys is pretty bleak too; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd3L9VMsLa8 : Mr.Finkster
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  How To Disappear Completely - Radiohead In october i found out my fiance was cheating on me, i (at th... : squigiliwams
  • damn dude, tough times. im glad to hear everything is going better for you now. on the bright side, at ... : arizona bay
• The entire Berlin album by Lou Reed : Albemuth
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  Radiohead - Street Spirit Yeah, definitely. : DrWaffles
  • And probably a ton of stuff by The Smiths. How Soon Is Now comes to mind. : DrWaffles
• Sufjan Stevens - John Wayne Gacy Jr : SatansFist
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  Sisters of Mercy - Nine While Nine : dirge23
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnRUK46lJ0c : dirge23
  • also Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata : dirge23
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FjSchBoch0 : papaskot
• Elliott Smith - Angeles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQrhA6QtWOM Bonnie Prince Billy - I See A Dar... : Drewus
• Pretty much all of Badmotorfinger. : c0bra
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  Counting Crows - Time and Time Again Nine Inch Nails - Hurt : Arctic Fox
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    In fact, most of August and Everything After by Counting Crows is pretty damn depressing. I try not to li... : Arctic Fox
    • Yeah, very melancholy stuff. Beautiful in it's own way though. : Colleton
• joy division - disorder, a means to an end http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PldpBJEn4vQ http://www.youtub... : anthonybean
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  rem - shiny happy people : CoRDS
  • ! http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21674717#itemanchor_21674717 : papaskot
• Ben Folds Five - Brick Stabbing Westward - I remember Umbrellas - Ships Classical Bonus? Rachmaninov... : davantalus
• Low - Shame http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvufaL5B_iM Elliott Smith - True Love http://www.youtube.... : awaypaster
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  Not one mention of Silver Mt. Zion? He Has Left Us Alone is depressing from beginning to end! http://... : Lone Swordsman
  • This and a half. : My Documents
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  The Police - Does Everyone Stare, Bed's Too Big, Darkness : AxeMan808
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    Cannibal Ox - Iron Galaxy, Scream Phoenix : AxeMan808
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      Cannibal Ox is good : awaypaster
      • Heh. I posted that, now I'm on Real Earth. : AxeMan808
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  Just a few: Alice in Chains - Dirt (pretty much the whole damn album!) Soundgarden - The Day I Tried ... : cpt_gloval
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    Subtracting points for lack of Limo Wreck. : AxeMan808
    • i re-listened to these soundgarden tracks and to be honest i think they really straddle the line on grim ... : cpt_gloval
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  Townes van Zandt - Dead Flowers : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • An excellent choice. Check out something like Tecumseh Valley or Waitin' Round to Die, both are bleak as ... : limpossible
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    Gotta love how the comments are full of Big Lebowski quotes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBwC7Qzljso : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      Yeah and its a shame too. There are too many people that hear something country/folk sounding and then au... : limpossible
      • Check out "Cocaine Blues" by him as well if you're more into the junkie theme of his music. : limpossible
      • common blues themes, I'd say. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_2RE_dyG9g : cpt_gloval
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  What Sarah Said - Death Cab for Cutie : dahanese
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    The entire album Transatlanticism - Death Cab For Cutie : squigiliwams
    • Fuck I hate Death Cab, it's all emo to me. : pres589
  • That's the first song that came to mind when I read the OP. Has to be one of the saddest songs I've ever ... : nakedsavage
• maybe too for to the emo, but caroline's spine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ed62STOsmA http://www.y... : vitaminzach
• Arcade Fire - My Body is A Cage A fantastic song, incredibly emotional : snowwolf
• Death to Everyone - Bonnie "Prince" Billy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzOIw-NsG9M The whole album... : Geoffrois
• Yob - The Great Cessation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR1M8qqmoEI (pt 1) http://www.youtube.com/wa... : timmie
• Maybe its just me, but Stars - Personal takes me to a sad place: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJ3cw_Er... : deskill
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  We Are The Massacre by World's End Girlfriend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEHNhYg8AsM Also, Shark : My Documents
  • Also, Massacre sounds more liberating than miserable. It's what I think liberation out of misery sounds ... : My Documents
• Katatonia - Their entire library : melkore
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  still no aphex twin mentioned? here's come to daddy - http://www.vimeo.com/2428077 gathering up more s... : acidravelamp
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    if youre looking for lyric-wise, pearl jam's last kiss is pretty grim : acidravelamp
    • it's not pearl jam's song (although their cover is awesome) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_Kiss : skelom
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  The Cure - Jupiter Crash : mwasher
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUfv7HAir3c so good : mwasher
• Eric Clapton - Tears in Heaven : Enraged Pineapple
• She Wants Revenge - Broken Promises For Broken Hearts : Flying h4x0r
• seether - tied my hands (acoustic) i dunno why, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb1nuH3iGDA really was ... : mindshot
• Pantera - Suicide Note http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeMCWg9esPM : sposh
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  Modest Mouse and 764-Hero - Whenever You See Fit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN9C_tCnRtg : mnsnota
  • this is 14 minutes of ruminating depression :( : mnsnota
• Luka by Suzanne Vega Lyrics: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/suzannevega/luka.html Video: http://www.y... : LemonJoose
• Bjork or Billie Holiday's version of Gloomy Sunday http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCEJtUNe90A htt... : broly1718
• Metallica - One : jimmy_legs
• nin - and all that could have been : reverend~heresy
• Tracks 9 and 11 of the Quake soundtrack. : the archvile
• NIN - Hurt I really can't think of another song that's as fucked up sounding. : SnakeIRye
• Copernicus - The Mars Volta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCcrc8T6kKo Televators - The Mars Volt... : ArcKnight
• anything by a silver mount zion or god speed you black emperor! : itsjames
• lou reed - perfect day : esmokah
• All of these songs have nothing on this one. So sad. :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3Ea7C5LOsw : Dschinghis Khan
• Gillian Welch, "My Morphine": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmt0jA73Hq4 : TShandy
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  Mudvayne - Happy, Not Falling, probably others. : yacoub35
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    Pantera - Regular People (Conceit), Throes of Rejection, probably others. : yacoub35
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      Tool - Aenema but that might be too "emo". Lots of Fear Factory tunes probably qualify. : yacoub35
      • Type O Negative - We Hate Everyone? :D : yacoub35

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  Xm subscribers don't get all the sirius stuff and vice versa. you can pay an extra $2 or so a month to ge... : QMS|superdave
  • the music channels are all the same though, I'm pretty sure : QMS|superdave
• You have to sign up for 'The Best of Sirius on XM' to get Howard. You'll also get the football games too... : trOmblyj
• They charge extra for stern on XM receivers. : Prozium
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  What kind of sweet ride did you buy? : pukerat
  • GIS for 'sweet ride' http://img6.travelblog.org/Photos/46535/247065/t/1985018-sweet-ride-1.jpg : trOmblyj
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  what new car did you get!!! : Mr.SEX
  • This, yes. I'm curious as well. : spazzium
  • I would also like to know. : ant_hillbilly
  • prius!!! : c0bra
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    I got a 2007 Chevy Tahoe. It's fucking hot. Only 20k miles on it. http://www.philsized.com/PUSSYWAGONL... : Phil
    • lol blur face. At first I thought no one was there. : ant_hillbilly
    • are you serious???? you went from an insight to this bullshit???????? : Mr.SEX
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      They're gas guzzling pigs, but god damn it if they aren't a nice ride. : Entity
      • Dude my ass was actually laughing when I sat in those seats. It's like padded, cushy chairs dropped stra... : Phil
    • why don't you get a fucking H1 hummer or something you scumbag !!11 : Downforce
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      sweet, you can really run some fuckers off the road now! : pukerat
      • GODDAMN RIGHT! I will fucking KILL someone now if I hit them! : Phil
    • Phil, you can't see me right now, but I assure you that am pouring out some Cristal onto the pavement rig... : Bean
    • Jesus, that's bigger than the city I live in. : rock elf
    • somewhere in the middle east, an arab just bought himself a new wife : PapaBoo
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      lollin : filtersweep
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        oh fuck Phil, please tell me it's silver and not that "champagne" brown old farts shit bricks over : filtersweep
        • hahaahahahahah : Downforce
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          Bitch please. I don't know what you call that color. Pewter is what the wife calls it. : Phil
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            waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaahahah sweet merciful xenu I need some air : Downforce
            • Don't make me have to take out a loan for gasoline, drive up to Seattle - and kick your hippie ass! : Phil
          • It is totally this color isn't it: http://www.automotive.com/2007/102/chevrolet/tahoe/ls-utility/1016/... : pancake humper
      • filtersweep what is going on!!! : Mr.SEX
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      i always wondered who bought huge domestic SUVs like the tahoe but wouldn't have guessed you phil : [fry]
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        it was a great deal man. 25k : Phil
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          25k used car? lol : DarkWolf5
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            New ones push 50k http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/Chevrolet_Tahoe/ : Phil
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              I just think of all the awesome cars you could buy for 25k. : DarkWolf5
              • Man I got fiddy kids. How I posta moo my kids? : Phil
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                i'd like to see this list. : cltcprd
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                  Two used 2004-2005 WRX. You could move 8 people with those! : DarkWolf5
                  • I don't consider 5-6 year old WRXs "awesome". And Phil can move 7 people in his Tahoe! : cltcprd
    • O_o : CrustaR
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      Time to get some dubs Phil. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nBWwC3gr2A : ant_hillbilly
      • AH HELL YEAUUUUUUH! : Phil
      • Thats a clean tahoe..and fuck da haters u could tell they ain't got nothing thats Y they gata hate.... : chrisschutz
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      looks like a spacious backseat *wink* : mayooms
      • lol like that'll ever get used : electroly
    • Damn right! The insight was too much SMUG for your Texan ass. : cltcprd
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      That's no moon! : Fred Garvin
      • lol : Phil
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      well at least if you pass out at the wheel in this one you probably won't die : virus
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        I'm wondering if that was at least part of the motivation for buying it. :) : Colleton
        • One of the managers here actually crashed a Tahoe while driving back from California under similar circum... : DarkWolf5
    • 15-16 in town, could be worse! : Omning
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  just leave it on 140 : Degenerate
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    42 and 48 are where it's at : QMS|superdave
    • I listen to 7,8,40,41,44,46,49,53,54,161. : o0JediBeavis0o
    • I'm with superdave : sposh
• Howard is "premium" content : Phreakin
• what the fail is this : Downforce
• Listen to 202 O&A are on there you might like them if you like Stern : WadeMcLain
• Whatever extra you have to pay, Howard Stern is worth every penny. : Ender.Wiggin
• What kind of mini-van did you get? : Lightzout
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  why you went from hybrid to suv? : Utopia
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    It makes perfect sense, doesn't it. : Phil
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      you went from saving the environnement and the hippies to killing the environnement and running into hipp... : Utopia
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        The 2008 car's estimated fuel economy for the 6-speed manual is 8 miles per US gallon (29 L/100 km; 9.6 m : cltcprd
        • I don't drive it too often in all honesty : Utopia
• you have to pay extra to get the Sirius channels. I got Sirius and had to pay extra to get XM. Then there... : bozer
• do me a favor and listen to the Jason Ellis show once, I believe its 2-6 CST on 28 (faction) . I think yo... : bongturbo
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  What car did you get? : StolenNosferatu
  • holy crap how long did i leave this page open for me to have missed EVERYTHING in this thread? : StolenNosferatu

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  if it has liquid water it's already in the zone, right? : RikiTiki2
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    Sort of. Read the article. It's very hot. Too hot for virtually any unprotected Earth life, but it's c... : Arcanum
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      how is it a big deal? how are we going to confirm life on something 42 ly away? : feek
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        Analyze the composition of the atmosphere. : MagicWishMonkey
        • yeah, but is that a really solid confirmation? : feek
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        It's so absurd to think there aren't any other life-sustaining planets in the universe. I mean, srsly. Th... : skinlab133
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          Ever? That's a strong statement. : avatar_58
          • We will never fly, visit the moon, or split an atom either, avatar_58. Get used to disappointment. :) : silent prophet
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            The biggest problem is the massive timescales involved. The chances of us being alive at the same time as... : ColoradoCNC
            • calculating the probability of coexisiting intergalactic intelligent life based on the infiniteness of sp... : BaronVonSnakPak
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              Well, given the entire life of the universe represented as one day, we have been technologically active f... : Clasifyd
              • By entire life, I meant current age. : Clasifyd
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                I want to say that Carl Sagan has a video where he goes through the mathematical probability of intellige... : Wombat Woo
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                  He does, he's using the Drake equation in most of it, I believe, which while noteworthy, isn't necessaril... : Clasifyd
                  • Here's Mr. Sagan himself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ztl8CG3Sys : Clasifyd
            • Wouldn't that still be pretty awesome? To discover the ruins of a long dead civilization?! : scottythejock
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              The latter would still be pretty awesome, the former could be incredibly beneficial or insanely destructi... : one random winner
              • switch latter and former in the above ;p : one random winner
            • I think we're on track to be the dominant species ofthis galaxy. Just like it was a long, long time ago i... : Sailor of Fortune
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            I can't see mankind surviving to the point where it'll be technologically feasible to traverse light year... : skinlab133
            • That's pretty much what i've always thought :-( : Mr. Goodwrench
          • If by 'we' he means the people alive today, then the statement is perfectly correct :( : filthysock
        • 42 light years is pretty close for just a couple months of operation of this earth finding telescope : MrBig0
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          Are people still denying the probability and possibility of life on other planets? : not work safe
          • Yes, there are actually people who believe we're it. : phipple
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          42 light years is actually pretty close in astronomical terms. It's like running next to your neighbour'... : old and busted vs the new hotness
          • Except that by the time you get back, you won't need the sugar anymore because cake batter you let sittin... : WaterSign
          • It's still almost incomprehensibly far away. : c0bra
• Road trip. : silent prophet
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  Very cool. I have a potentially naive question. From the article: The super-Earths themselves are too : Home Nugget
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    Hubble (probably) couldn't see it because it is close to a super bright object (the star it orbits) and s... : NexusOne
    • Yep, imagine taking a picture of a pinpoint sized object taped to the side of a flashlight pointing at th... : Zakko
    • Planets are also too small to be resolved in any meaningful way by the Hubble, even at that relatively "s... : Arcanum
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    This made me curious! So i did some google digging.... the result is that the latest camera installe : yAak
    • wow, this bitch can pick out a 6 foot object on the moon: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_Large_Telesco... : yAak
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  SCIENCE : Rehevkor
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    roadhouse. : chilln
    • Haha, great episode. : phipple
• Didn't they find this a year or two ago? : MagicWishMonkey
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  they should fire a ton of nukes at it now...just in case. : ass-street
  • hahaha this cracked me up : virus
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1MuT_KSOo4 : hanged_man
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    http://sites.inka.de/mips/reviews/TheKillingStar.html : Johnny Law
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      Where were you in 2005? http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=10538661 Or again in 2008? http://www.sh... : cornchak
      • I was... over there, a little to the left. Sorry. :-( : Johnny Law
  • I absolutely agree : xxx2xxx
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  Damn. That last quote about only looking at a handful of planets before hitting this jackpot gave me chil... : gooblerampling
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    I hope it isn't blind luck they found this planet so quickly. : freakynipples69
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      Yeah, I'd love it if in 10 years time we had discovered hundreds of planets like this. Best part of that ... : Creepin_Jeezus
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        It'd be pretty phenomenal if we started getting responses. Damn you light speed barrier! Damn you to h... : old and busted vs the new hotness
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          there's no barrier. we just know NOT to make the event horizon... : Downforce
          • We need a mass displacer field :( Send the mass to another dimension then just move the object zippity... : old and busted vs the new hotness
• Sounds like the found Hell: It’s about six times bigger, a whole lot hotter and made mostly of wa : mrtony
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  Jesus Christ, can you imagine what shit might live in those oceans. *shudder* : Visceral Monkey
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    That was my first thought. Gigantic sea creatures scare the shit out of me. : theghostofsmdever
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      Space Sea Creatures D: : tomservo
      • Giant psychic squid. : Arcanum
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    if it's anything like the creepy shit that lives in our oceans I bet it's awesome :D : mikecyb
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      and these can survive in 380 degree boiling water with orders of magnitude more water pressure. if there : electroly
      • it's probably already pissed off we were looking at it : jvox
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        Wait... So would this planet actually be boiling? If the pressure is higher on the planet then the boi... : R4di4ti0n.
        • The surface might be, or portions of it. Dunno. Go deep enough and I'm sure it isn't. : Arcanum
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          i actually have no idea because i'm a half-assed poster. if i could remember the equation i'd try to fig... : electroly
          • the article made it seem like the atmosphere was similar to ours though, so i assume at the surface the w... : electroly
          • Im not jumping on your case, im just wondering. Out of every possible alien planet i can think of, the on... : R4di4ti0n.
  • http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0262/ack1.jpg : Evil Benius
  • imagine the storms with all that heat and all that water : mrtony
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    Seeing as we probably don't even know about some of the creepier beasties in our own ocean yet, I'm gonna... : ColoradoCNC
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      Oh, great, yeah, let's piss off the giant psychic sea monsters. Great idea. : Arcanum
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        Next thing you know a psychic squid will teleport to New York for a premptive strike. It's going o read ... : Amadan
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          Exactly. Thanks guys. I liked New York. Bastards. : Arcanum
          • I welcome our giant squid overlords : deadfish
        • It'll freeze! : oo7|bond
  • snorks? : whistletits
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    Hopefully creatures similar to jellyfish and cephalopods but the size of the Burj Dubai. : Alice O'Connor
    • Whoa, girl. Settle down there. : silent prophet
    • which is why we need to nuke it sooner rather than later : mrtony
    • Fucking Arab space squids. : Amadan
    • Aw HELL no...the last thing this universe needs is gigantic Cthulhu-fish swimming around somewhere : ColoradoCNC
  • We still don't know a fuckton about our own oceans. You figure that out pretty quickly once you start ke... : Boxelder
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    Planet R'lyeh : das_runt
    • That's actually a great name for that planet. : Visceral Monkey
    • oh s'nap! : Earl Greigh
    • first pictures from NASA: http://whoyoucallingaskeptic.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/kraken-cthulhu.jpg : mrtony
  • I'm hoping they are delicious. : DarkWolf5
• the Umbrella Corporation is already there :X : Downforce
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  Only 42 lightyears from here? Wow. What's a fastest a human can safely travel? I mean, is there an upp... : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Probably at least 150 years, including the time needed for slowing down. Just a guess. : old and busted vs the new hotness
    • Can we stop for pee breaks and buy some candy bars at the convienace store on the way? : Maddog_Delphi97
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    There is a limit to the number of Gs a human can withstand, but they don't really apply to space travel. ... : silent prophet
    • Not really a problem, but an enabler. Less time occurs on ship. : Conan
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      Kzin Gravity Polarizer FTW! : AxeMan808
      • All good until the outsiders show up with their hyperdrive. : Visceral Monkey
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      I don't understand this. Why does time slow down when you travel faster? Isn't time a straight line t... : virus
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        someone halp plz : virus
        • Watch Flight of the Navigator damn it! : king_darius
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          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rl3Z9yCTn8 : GloriousCow
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            Sweet video. Cop: "Excuse me, do you know how fast you were going?" Me: Relative to what? hehe : virus
            • if you liked that you should check out Cosmos: http://www.hulu.com/watch/63323/cosmos-travels-in-space-a... : GloriousCow
            • I wish youtube had a lol script. "time dilation and length contraction are counter intuitive, a... : uglysad
        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_relativity : derelict515
        • This issue is the basis for Einstein's Theory of Relativity. It is the actual "relative" part of Relativi... : silent prophet
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        Light is constant in a vacuum. Time can be variable and it's been proven several times over. : SolrFlare
        • Light is constant in a vacuum, this hasn't been 'fully' proven.... The assumption that light is a cons... : ShadowRam
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        It's a function of speed, not of traveling in space vs. on Earth. The short, stupid answer is "because t : Arcanum
        • I understand. Nice post! : virus
        • This is so wrong, its actually the worst blunder of modern science, and Einstein has really fucked us for... : ShadowRam
      • It all depends on the observer and thing being observed. : spiffymc
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        First of all, sorry about my crappy fucking art. i'm on a mac, bored, and I have no idea where the drawin... : reelbk
        • And yeah, the time that passes during the pulse/bounce in both cases can only be considered the same if y... : reelbk
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      Wow.. what... your not making any sense.... To get there the fastest, you accelerate 1/2 there, and d... : ShadowRam
      • Nope. To get there fastest, you accelerate 90% of the way there, then turn on your Slaver Stasis Field an... : AxeMan808
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        From wikipedia: The g-force acting on an object in any weightless environment such as free-fall in a vacu : silent prophet
        • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-force : silent prophet
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          accleration causes g-force. acceleration is equivalent to gravity caused by mass. http://en.wikipedia.org... : xxx2xxx
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            I never equated that with high speed travel in a vacuum. So that means you'll actually experience g-force... : silent prophet
            • of course : xxx2xxx
      • This is only true if the only constraint is that you are not to exceed some fixed level of acceleration. ... : jim bone
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    plus if they have life they are looking at us from 42 years ago (i think) and most likely saying F that n... : kanix
    • yeah, we just finished blowing the shit out of each other, getting ready to destroy ourselves completely : _jon
• SU-PAH SPERRRM EARRRTH : jvox
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  I can't wait to find out what is there 84 years after we invent light speed travel : gmd
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    Honestly, we will probably never build "light-speed" or "faster than light speed" travel using the conven... : silent prophet
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      have doom and event horizon taught you nothing?? : gmd
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        Don't travel with Dustin Hoffman into space? : silent prophet
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          Dustin Hoffman is in neither of those movies?? : c0bra
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            Exactly. I was thinking of Sphere. :( : silent prophet
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              Sphere took place underwater, not outer space, and it had nothing to do with folding space or faster than... : lechuck59
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                Look, if you're okay with going into space with Dustin Hoffman, that's cool. It is your ass on the line. : silent prophet
                • This may be the funniest thing I've read all day. : Clasifyd
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      We're just going to raise the speed of light in 2208 anyway. : DarkWolf5
      • This is the correct answer. Damn't! : sKetchflow
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      or live longer. lol : d0pamine
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        Or even a big freezer. : DarkWolf5
        • ^^ these will probably actually be what happens if we want to stop using robots. Genetic modifications to... : 60days
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      well if it was possible to isolate gravitons then we could maybe have a shot at trying to make things mas... : old and busted vs the new hotness
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        just imagine the implications for the diet industry! : das_runt
        • Everyone would have one of those floaty machines that the Baron Von Harkkonnen had : ruckboos
      • you might as well have just said 'if it was possible to stop time and teleport anywhere that'd be pretty ... : derelict515
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        Everybody needs to play Mass Effect to properly understand the implications of this. : DinK
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          not really : derelict515
          • blue chicks, man. Fuckin' A. : DinK
          • that's true. what we don't fathom is that we exist because Sovereign ALLOWS IT :( : Downforce
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        I'm not even going to go into the graviton thing. We still don't have a clue as to how gravity is transmi... : silent prophet
        • it would mean shorter acceleration times, for one, and 0 mass = 0 event horizon = FTL travel : old and busted vs the new hotness
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  the planet could have exploded by now : vassili_zaitsev
  • well SOMEONE is being a negative nancy. : old and busted vs the new hotness
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    assuming they have data suggesting that the planet would explode within 42 years we probably have enou... : boring gegtik
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      if it explodes now, we wont know about it for 42 years. : ghost hacker
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        I know that. I'm saying our current data is approx 42 years old and I'm fairly confident if the entire pl... : boring gegtik
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          I doubt it. It could have been smoked by a rogue planet or asteroid. : ghost hacker
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            oh shit so now Palin is out there somewhere????? : Downforce
            • Well, she CAN see the planet from her house !! : ghost hacker
      • now yes, but maybe in the future we'll have the technology that lets us know sooner! : not work safe
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    ...as if millions of theoretical voices suddenly cried out in possible terror and were suddenly silenced ... : get_navi
    • hahaha! : AxeMan808
• Shit like this is always cool. : Chod
• We'll just fuck it up even faster than this one... eventually : Amnesty_intl2
• Welcome to Supa Erf. : r_picmip 5
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  At constant velocity, the fastest man-made space craft ever could reach that planet in about 55 years! : Zakko
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    What velocity are we talking here? Just because your ship could make it in 55 years from your perspective... : silent prophet
    • Fuck you and fuck Einstein. : rosewood
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      We don't have the capability to travel anything close to relativistic speeds. Any observational differen... : bipolar
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        Ah, 55 subjective years *would* be relativistic speeds, considering it's 44 light years away. Yeah, we d... : bipolar
        • Yeah, you'd basically be moving at 80% the speed of light to do it in 55 years from your perspective. ... : silent prophet
  • You mean constant acceleration? : Arcanum
  • lets get on this shit, our grandchildren could be deciphering the return signals! : boring gegtik
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    which near-light-speed man-made spacecraft are we talking about here : electroly
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      this is what I'm wondering : derelict515
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        He may be calculating in relative time. I believe it's 30 years relative time to get to the edge of our ... : Clasifyd
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          i'm betting Arcanum is right and he meant constant acceleration : electroly
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            and presumably just crashing into the planet on the other side instead of slowing down : electroly
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              or being hit by any other random objects in space, cause yeah, those don't exist right.. : inf3d3l
              • dude that's what the deflector array is for : electroly
          • Missed his post, quite possibly correct. : Clasifyd
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    I'm calculating 782,000 years. What did I do wrong here? http://www.azom.com/news.asp?newsID=4700 ht... : boring gegtik
    • I'm betting he means constant acceleration. : Arcanum
    • he was close : Foxhawk
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    the one you don't know about can be there in 1 hour. I have only done this once before. bring your own we... : Downforce
    • the stargate : gmd
    • and you forget the most important line. : DinK
  • oops, my bad. Read wrong when I looked at the Helios probe stats: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_pr... : Zakko
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    At constant acceleration of 3G (which is how fast the space shuttle goes when it launches), I get just ov... : electroly
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      (and this is assuming a full-speed crash landing without any slowing down) : electroly
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        and assumes the shuttle would not expand to infinite mass and travel back in time to the dinosaur age : gmd
        • i think that would be an acceptable outcome : electroly
    • you have very fine penmanship : Slowtreme
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      that acceleration requires carrying sufficient propellant. which of course reduces the acceleration whic... : mrtony
      • also if you do accelerate to close to the speed of light you get fried as the wavelength of the backgroun... : mrtony
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      so what happens when this mythical spaceship finally makes it to light speed? (since obviously it does a... : electroly
      • also i would like to see the collision of a light-speed spacecraft into this planet. this is probably ne... : electroly
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        the ship will never measure any change in speed faster than the speed of light. what will happen is dist... : mrtony
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          i think that, in practice, there are far more problems with this than just propellant and background radi... : electroly
          • negative. the only REAL problems are trying to make nachos on a trip featuring light speed : Downforce
          • Relativistic impacts are great fun! : Arcanum
    • +inf +nerd : askedrelic
• all water, temp of at least 300. if there is life that, its going to be the definition of alien. thats ... : smacknca
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  FUCK that. Europe is like 20 years behind America in clothes....imagine how far 42 light years puts them... : Jimbo Ro
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    but light years are only 267 days long there : Dave-A
    • lolololoo : ghost hacker
  • ...what? : freakynipples69
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    You mean 20 years AHEAD right? : theghostofsmdever
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      I hope not. My ass wont fit in pants that tight 20 years from now. : Jimbo Ro
      • fucking ahah : mnsnota
  • LOL : midgetherder
  • You Americans are the ones still using checks. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• We still think the combustion engine is an efficient means of transportation. There's no fucking way we a... : Drewus
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  So lets launch some probes, and say 60 years to get there, 42 years to send back results, In a century we... : SqueegyTBS
  • It's going to take longer than 60 years. Unless of course you can build a probe that can travel near the ... : Drewus
• Only 42 lightyears you say! Well golly, let's have a skip over there and take a look-see! : quadeh
• There is a native species called the Na'Vi, they are very hard to kill. : Sailor of Fortune
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  They need to bring back Project Orion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Orion_(nuclear_propulsion) : shortbuscaptain
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    Way too slow for interstellar manned flight, but good for intrasystem. : Visceral Monkey
    • Yea extremely inefficient for manned flight yet we could get probes out rapidly. I mean it's still going ... : shortbuscaptain
• Now we just need the tech to send nuclear fusion and energy into space then develop nuclear propulsion ... : sreyes22
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  Here is some more info about it. Most the same, some new. They applied to use the Hubble Telescope and... : inf3d3l
  • thanks for the link, much better article : GloriousCow
• Send up Kevin Costner first. : Tech T
• I WANNA GO! Seriously tho, we better be colonizing that shit with plant life and people, insects, etc.... : GoodBoy
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  *yawn* Call me when we make progress protecting ourselves from gamma radiation in deep space. : aldraek
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    There aren't any nearby stars at high risk for going supernova, on the list of "things we should be worri... : MagicWishMonkey
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      I believe radiation is actually a problem, a manned mission to Mars for instance would subject the astron... : derelict515
      • Well yea radiation is a problem but that doesn't have much to do with gamma ray bursts. If we figure o... : MagicWishMonkey
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    You just have to make sure you don't get angry. : Johnny Law
    • you wouldn't like aldraek when he's angry : Postal
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  if we can send data at the speed of light and if we do live in a matrix then we're comprised of 0's and1'... : mindshot
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    whats going to reassemble us at the other end? : GloriousCow
    • Midgets probably : MagicWishMonkey
• It should be called "Manaan" : Mondo
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  Think we'll fine Earth 2 within our lifetimes? : WhatIsThisFor
  • I doubt it, but damn it sure would be awesome to find or put people on another planet within my lifetime. : Chod