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• McG. Heh. : Visceral Monkey
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  And FUCK, in the first scene explaining things they talk about how the machines are targeting Kyle Reese : Serpico74
  • Oh jesus, that's painful. I'm going to hate this movie. : brickmatt
  • I must have switched my brain off when I saw this - because I enjoyed it. : action roommate
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  I am probably going to avoid this, thanks for the heads up : Mr.SEX
  • Yeah, you should. It has two neat sequences (probably under 5 minutes total), but that's it. Don't let th... : Serpico74
  • We agree! : brickmatt
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  i knew this movie would blow when i found out mcg was directing it. anybody that makes charlie's angels ... : arizona bay
  • He actually staged a very impressive sequence near the beginning of the film. Its a crazy single continuo... : Serpico74
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    The thing that bothers me is that McG was obviously trying to make a "serious, dark, gritty" film and sha : Serpico74
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      i just wish he would change his name : arizona bay
      • I don't care about his name, I just wish he made a better movie. : Serpico74
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  you guys are just holding your standards too high. its not going to be better than 1 or 2, so just forget... : mindshot
  • In a series that threw its own time travel logic out the window with T2, this goes WAY the fuck out of bo... : Serpico74
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    Are people expecting this to be as good as T2? I went in expecting shit, and somehow this movie ended up... : choppp
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      My expectations were lowwww, just like with T3, and the best thing I can say about it is that it was bett... : Serpico74
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        Hahah.... ouch ...duly noted - I will see Star Trek instead [if I get a chance to see either!] - I still ... : PlanetPerfecto
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          Star Trek was really good! : Serpico74
          • Oh well. At least we'll always have that smashing on-set tirade Bale goes into, captured forever. The aud... : PlanetPerfecto
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  So is it better or worse than T3? I liked the third one but I know a lot of people didn't. : Mmmmmoo
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    IMO its worse. T3 had stupid jokes and a lame villain but at least it had some humor, it had an amazing c : Serpico74
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      I'm glad I am movie retarded. I didn't even stop to consider that shit you mentioned re: skynet's knowled... : Morgin
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        also, i wish it was more like the beginning of T2. Where are my lasers? :( : Morgin
        • Dude, I know. :( What I also thought was weird is that even though the movie had this really shitty fo... : Serpico74
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        I thought the whole helicopter crash at the beginning was really good, and I liked the bike chase. Unfort... : Serpico74
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          I liked the factory battle. It was pretty awesome seeing the endo fuck shit up and just not stop. : NFXFSX
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            See, that bugged me too. In The Terminator, you don't get anywhere NEAR that fucking endoskeleton. Kyle R : Serpico74
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              Whaaaaaaaat. Seriously? What. Oh god. : brickmatt
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                I KNOW : Serpico74
                • I was expecting them to fuck up the timeline, and maybe the characters even. Probably. But that level o... : brickmatt
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                This is the closest thing I could find to that fight between Connor and the T-800: http://www.youtube.com... : Serpico74
                • Totally loling here, I just watched that episode the other day. : brickmatt
                • I like how Bale takes a bunch of hits from the T-800, but then Marcus gets one punch and hes down. Oh, a : choppp
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              wtf?? A director, producer, screenwriter, actors, and visual effects people all had to be ok with that fo... : haiku
              • It's painful to imagine the stupidity. Or apathy? Or maybe just the desire for moneyhats. But seriousl... : brickmatt
              • $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ : Prozium
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                Dude, that is nothing. The core conflict in the film is based on Skynet targeting Kyle Reese for terminat : Serpico74
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                  I know time travel is a bit confusing, but how did everyone fail to think this through? Even a little? : brickmatt
                  • I really couldn't believe it when I heard that guy say his name. Time travel can be a little confusing bu... : Serpico74
                  • hint they didn't care. The story doesn't matter in this movie. all that said, maybe from the future wh... : Morgin
                • Maybe they're being advised by terminators sent from the future. This movie sounds bad. =( : Senate5000
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                  Since you work in the industry, do you have any insight on how things like this happen? I know Producers ... : haiku
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                    People are stupid assholes. : Serpico74
                    • I wished there was some way I could provide positive reinforcement for good writing. It's so rare. I watc : brickmatt
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                      Seriously, people ask me often why I'm not in a rush to work on movies, and aside from the lower pay scal : Serpico74
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                        I wish I knew more about how the industry works. How people like McG con their way into director position... : haiku
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                          Hexon worked on X3, I'm sure he can tell you all you need to know about Ratner. Another buddy worked dire... : Morgin
                          • Didn't Ratner get X3 because he was basically one of the few directors available to shoot the movie? Matt... : Prozium
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                          Both McG and Brett Ratner (I was an intern on his first movie) are very very charismatic and motivating p : Serpico74
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                            Well. They can't take Robocop from us. : haiku
                            • No they can't, sir : Serpico74
                        • in the case of The Dark Knight I know that Nolan and his writers were basically given free reign. Like n... : mikecyb
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                          I want to know how they made Casino Royale and then Quantum of Solace only 18 months later, it's like one... : abrasion
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                            they changed directors didnt they? : Chandler55
                            • They changed WORLDS man, changed WORLDS. : abrasion
                          • its the 18 months later bit that's the clue. Casino Royale had a good script. Quantum started shootin... : alnya
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                  lol.. what was also terrible was the whole Marcus plan that Skynet devised. Let's make this perfect in : das_runt
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                    omg, I'm dying : Serpico74
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                      But seriously... If we're supposed to believe that SkyNet knows who Kyle Reese is... THEN WHY THE FUCK : das_runt
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                        The second minute of Arnold in The Terminator showed the best way to terminate a man: you rip his heart o... : Serpico74
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                          It brings a tear to my eye. : das_runt
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                            no SERIOUSLY It's one thing when one writer takes his own take on a character. I didn't like how T3's : das_runt
                            • Spot on right there : Serpico74
                            • I am so glad I am reading these spoilers, this movie sounds exactly like something I would hate. The ques... : abrasion
                            • wait one fucking moment here. Are you telling me that they didn't kill THE BLACK GUY?!?!?! What kind of b... : sesmaster
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                  Why anyone expected McG to deliver is beyond me. I don't know what digital acid they put in those trailer... : Godhatesfatpeople
                  • Not enough, someone should have pointed out that it wasn't just crap or whatever, that it just didn't mak : Serpico74
                • Oh my god :( This is the saddest news I've heard all day. I can never watch this movie now. : ieGod
            • to be fair, the thing had taken a number of grenades, and it was the first model t-800, so the alloys the : Morgin
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              Hm. I'm wondering if I should still go see this movie. I currently have very low expectations for this mo... : Mmmmmoo
              • Eh, go ahead if you're still curious, there's five minutes of decent stuff in two hours of movie. That ma... : Serpico74
              • If you are a "i like fun movies" kind of person, you will probably like it. If you like fun movies but... : Morgin
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              Did I just read that? T1's T-800 fucks people up, it was a proper horror movie, wtf! : abrasion
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                Its the full on boogy man, you run and don't let that thing get anywhere near you. Here they're all wrest... : Serpico74
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                  I love how scary he is in Terminator 1, that's why you respect him in T2 and T3 - if anything can even sl... : abrasion
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                    You gotta watch the bad. Just to gauge your references. Watch them on cable while drunk/high or with frie... : Godhatesfatpeople
                    • Maybe with T4, since I don't adore the franchise but I'll never watch Indy 4, ever. : abrasion
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                    I'm actually glad I saw it now, this thread made me laugh and my friends have something new to talk shit ... : Serpico74
                    • I can't thank you enough :( : abrasion
            • WTF??? A fistfight with an endoskeleton. : matthaeus
            • That's the part that made the whole theater bust out in laughter. : Godhatesfatpeople
            • Ahahaha. I might have to catch this on DVD just for this scene. It sounds so patently ridiculous. : ZTac
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          I liked the part where Connor played GNR's You Could Be Mine to catch himself a motorcycle.]/ : Prozium
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            Yeah, I liked that too. :) : Serpico74
            • It was even the same style of tape player that he had in T2. : das_runt
        • I actually liked the part where they pulled up to the gas station, up until it didn't turn out to be the : Morgin
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          Oh, and again, I really liked Kyle Reese in this movie, that actor did a great job, I bought that it was ... : Serpico74
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            That was Chekov, right? Not surprised he nailed it. Too bad they didn't make the movie about him. : brickmatt
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              I kinda wish the movie was a few years further in the future with an older Kyle Reese, just before he's s : Prozium
              • I wish for a lot of things, like a pony. =( It's sad they missed this opportunity. : brickmatt
    • WHAT THE FUCK. terminator 3 was fucking terrible, on all counts. the humor sucked. the bad terminator suc... : xxiv
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    I thought T3 was fine, considering the lore of the series dictated their path fairly tightly. With what ... : abrasion
    • the only thing i remember about that movie is john connor looks like a rat and the "terminatrix" inflates... : xxiv
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      It was not exactly the lore parts of T3 that people are complaining about. It was in fact the everything ... : SpaecKow
      • ^^^^^^^^ : xxiv
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  My friend did a lot of VFX for this movie. I was over at his place last month. I thought the trailer lo... : midgetherder
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    Hahah : Serpico74
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      I wonder what scene it was when Bale went off on the DP. : Prozium
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        Apparently it was supposed to be the emotional climax of the movie. Judging by this thread that may no... : spazzium
        • Pretty sure it was the "We've been at war since before either of us existed" line. I was looking for it,... : fleabug
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          http://www.movie-moron.com/wp-content/gallery/terminator/terminator-pictures-funny-1.jpg : Godhatesfatpeople
          • lol! : Super Sparker
          • You're really getting a lot of mileage out of that aren't you. : not work safe
          • Hah. : ieGod
      • That should have played in a gag reel over the end credits. : Serpico74
• I liked it for what it was...a summer action film. : NFXFSX
• I blame the messenger. Fuck you Serpico74. : Kentor
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  I have a question for you. Bay for Transformers McG for T4 Which is worse in your opinion? : pigvomit
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    It has to be McG for Terminators. Who ever expected a movie about cartoon shape-changing robots to be goo... : brickmatt
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      T1 Brilliant?? Really? have you watched that movie?? Sure, it was great in the sense that it setup a gr... : ShadowRam
      • If it wasn't for T2, T1 probably wouldn't have been remembered by 1/2 the people here. : ShadowRam
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    McG just because he has no excuse to really fuck up an opportunity like that. With Transformers, you knew that was going to be a joke on the public the instant Bay signed on. There was zero chance of Transformers being a watchable movie. This Terminator movie could have been the Dark Knight of 2009 if anyone with any skill got involved.
    

    May 22, 2009 12:02am PDT
    McG just because he has no excuse to really fuck up an opportunity like that. With Transformers, you knew... : haiku
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    Different. Transformers is heinous shit, while T4 is squandered opportunity. One makes me angry, the othe... : Serpico74
    • Thank you for your review Serpico. Your tastes mirror mine and you've saved me $15 and 2 hours. Gracias. : ahlee
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    I thought Transformers was really good :( : losimagic
    • Me too why the hate everyone? It's just like the cartoon. Maybe how you remember it is fucked? : RogerDandy
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    transformers2 is gonna be dark knight awesome you'll see : Chandler55
    • I almost Lol'd : Dontdrop
    • I just threw up in my mouth and then gargled it so I could forget what I just read : bozer
  • Transformers was a good movie because nothing else came before it so it could crack jokes and not have to... : stgdz
• lol. owned. : Magus
• Update: still crying. Watching T1 to feel better. : brickmatt
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  haha told you. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Its ok, this thread cracked me up and now me and my friends have something new to rip on. Glass is half f... : Serpico74
    • Our audience really didn't take too well to it either. When the ending came up, so did laughter. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I have trouble imagining how this is possible when the trailer looks so good. I guess it just means we'll... : BlackCat9
  • Just think about Matrix 2 :( : matthaeus
• They've been playing the first three movies on TV lately. I'll happily sit and watch the first one anytim... : Dave-A
• Man, so fucking depressing, I really wanted this to be good. I really did :( : SpaecKow
• http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=19869524#itemanchor_19869524 : industro
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  i dont understand the hate. what are people expecting? i expected some robots from the future blowing u... : papaskot
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    Me too - I'm not getting the hate either. I mean, I didn't have big expectations - but other people here : action roommate
    • no it's a very entertaining movie. i liked it, and will be buying the BR. : xxiv
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    I was expecting a proper following of story and time lines, with respect to what was already established ... : ieGod
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      I will fully admit that the story and general adherence to canon is pretty shittastic. But I didn't expe... : action roommate
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        I thought they did a pretty good job not contradicting the previous movies. : Arcanum
        • How do you propose Skynet knew that Kyle Reese is John Connor's father and that John Connor was a threat : Serpico74
  • Exactly. I mean Cameron himself ripped off Harlan Ellison for the first movie. It's just xeroxes of sci-f... : gooblerampling
  • I don't expect a fisticuffs foight of da centurah! between a human and terminator as described here http:... : ZTac
  • No, you got robots from the future throwing people into walls and taking punches from them. I saw no assk... : Serpico74
• It wasn't that bad at all. People just like to exaggerate how bad it is because it's a sequel to a couple... : lplasmatron
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  Bullshit, I enjoyed it. : ShadowRam
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    (and I hate bail) : ShadowRam
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      are you trying to string together a series of posts discrediting yourself? : aeg1x
      • Nope, just adding to my own thoughts. Not sure what your getting at? : ShadowRam
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  you know y T1/T2 is so good for me? because i watched it as a kid. if i watched those movies today for ... : vassili_zaitsev
  • endless debates about robotcop vs terminator vs aliens vs predator vs whatever else. i know what you mean... : xxiv
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    Bullshit, I saw the Matrix at ...21 years old and the entire concept literally (!) had my jaw drop in the... : abrasion
    • the matrix also wasnt made int he 80s... : brainchild420
• Okay, I won't see it. Here's my T4 movie: Opening credits show a montage of scenes that span 10-15 ye... : kek
• I didn't hate it, but I'm in no hurry to ever see it again. Mostly it just reeked of wasted potential. N : disdain