Morning Discussion
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I saw Death Proof and Planet Terror back to back last night (cunning way of getting 2x the ticket price) in Leicester Square, London.
Death Proof was a bit long winded (It was the extended/re-cut standalone version). I certainly enjoyed it and Tarantino is just a master of dialogue. I particularly enjoyed all the little nod's to his previous films. oh yeah, the big crash was amazing, the tire to the face was brutal!
Planet Terror was off the fucking chain! So much gore and HOT WOMEN! I loved it. Again I saw the re-cut standalone version, but unlike Death Proof, it didn't feel drawn out, there was never a dull moment. A+ would see again.
Overall, I think they would have been better in their original US theatrical state rather than as 2 completely separate movies. Death Proof in particular seemed over-long and I felt slightly ripped off having to pay to 2x the amount.-
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I think the trick to good Tarantino dialogue is having actors or actresses that can naturally express it. If you look at the opening scenes of both Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction, the talent makes the dialogue come to life naturally. With the round table scene in Death Proof (quite the homage to Resevoir Dogs), however, the actresses just aren't good enough to make the dialogue interesting and real. To me, this is the real issue.
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Heh - looking at it that way - I think you've hit the nail on the head.
Comparing the way the dialogue in Death Proof was delivered by its actors, to how the dialogue was delivered in Resevoir Dogs with Tim Roth, Steve Buscemi, Chris Penn etc it seems to me that maybe the actors weren't doing the material the justice that could have been done...
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Tarantino himself completely fucking ruins the opening dialogue in Reservoir Dogs for me. He's such an intensely unnatural, awkward, obnoxious actor. He has no sense of restraint, delivery, or tone. I can't stand to see him in any film, he needs to stay the fuck out of his own movies. He's a great director, and he should stick to that.
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I loved 'em both. I heard bad things about Death Proof and at the end found myself loving it.
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I'm one of the apparent few that felt the other way around. I liked Death Proof quite a bit, I actually like scenes where people talk even when (and sometimes especially because) it has nothing to do with the plot. I liked how there were 2 separate sets of characters, and I liked the ridiculous ending. That said, I've seen both the theatrical and extended versions and I did feel that the extended one overstayed its welcome.
Planet Terror was supposed to be sooooo shocking but by trying so hard to be over-the-top 100% of the time it's like it went into negative-shock territory. Everything that happened in that movie was blatantly obvious and there was no surprise or shock to be had at all. Maybe it was because of the way it was marketed, but that movie seriously carried very little entertainment value for me. The women were hot, and I liked some of the talky bits like the brothers feuding about the barbecue recipe or whatever that was, but all the EXTREEEEEME stuff was telegraphed beyond belief and pretty lame. -
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Yeah that was a great part for Russell, and he really nailed it.
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iawtp entirely
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what was the leadup to the coffin? kill bill was great. Jackie Brown was interesting. Pulp Fiction and RDs a classic. So, one movie you don't care for and he's dead to you?
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I'd like to see that sequence frame by frame to see how they did the split second gore..anything up online like that?
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