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  i love the halo weapon system. a lot more realistic : oHnOES
  • I'm not one for realism but I like the Halo method. Makes me change weapons much more often, and be more ... : crummynz
  • Thanks a lot butthole! See what you gone and done?! : jtthe2nd
• A shit ton of weapons. I hate scrounging for ammo. : Chod
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  Maybe because I'm playing it again right now, but I love the bow and arrow system in the Thief games. : slax0r
  • Also I misread the post. Give me as many guns as humanly possible. I don't play games for realism. : slax0r
• I'd only accept the limited weapons system if I could backtrack and pick up what I dropped at some point. : Super Sparker
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  Carry 10 guns. I don't give a shit about realism or weapon carrying strategy. The strategic choice should... : freshyk
  • Exactly, with multiple weapons if they have sufficient differences it becomes which weapon to best use. ... : Chod
• having less guns is better... the choice of guns forces you into a certain play style can you real... : mr.thing
• I like mine both ways. : Orange Pylon
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  I like carrying a lot of guns but what I don't like is when level designers take all your weapons at some... : soggybagel
  • So you want to get captured and keep your guns? : davantalus
• 10 guns at a time, because different weapons work better for different enemies. : CrustaR
• I like the Halo Gears style a bit better. For one, it doesn't for the game to give you weapon 1 at the... : action roommate
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  quake. Rocket to LG instantly from one to the other. No stupid animation : burning eye
  • oh wait. I like to have as many guns as possible all at once. : burning eye
• i like the inventory system ala deus ex. you can carry a lot of little guns or a few big ones. : pyide
• Duke only being able to carry 2 guns would be wierd : Unleashed
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  I think two is too limiting. Three is a nice number, allows you to carry a small, medium, and heavy weapo... : Modica Sol Solis
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    You can technically carry three in Halo 3 (not including dual wielding) because you don't drop either of ... : action roommate
    • You really should be able to carry two normal guns plus a piston or plasma sword at once though, I mean, ... : Toraz Chryx
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  I think both systems are fine depending on the game. If we're talking DNF I don't think theres any choice... : Degenerate
  • You forgot carrying a stripper a well. And a roll of Benjamins. And a rocket backpack. : TroZ
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  IF this is a question related to DNF, keep it as is....let us carry as many weapons as we can hold. Let u... : Super Sparker
  • IAWTP x 100 : thejm4n
• 10 at a time please. I'm playing through F.E.A.R. an I get pissed off when I have just one weapon and co... : dognose
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  In the end I think Halo's is the most interesting. I don't think I'd give up instant 10-gun switching in... : Chris Remo
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    I'll agree for Single player campaigns, but not MP. : Pneum0
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      I think even more so in MP for me actually : Chris Remo
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        Care to elaborate? : Pneum0
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          I agree with Chris Remo. A limitation of weapons in multiplayer adds a more tactical element. To me, t : Rice-Rocketeer
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            I can't comment on Halo mp, but generally speaking, I happen to think that having more options increases ... : Pneum0
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              I don't see how having all the weapons at your disposal makes for a particularly tactical situation. Jus... : Chris Remo
              • I'm not saying Halo isn't great, and tactical. I can see the fun in the tactics Halo's weapon selection... : Pneum0
          • Weapon hoarding would be even worse if they allowed you to carry more than 2. : Magus
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    yea, unique weapons over 5 types of machines guns : zagzig32
    • HL1 crossbow , loved it! : zagzig32
  • Yep. That choice making is a very critical gameplay element. Plus I think it adds a touch of replayabil... : mrwolf710
  • So we can blame Remo Man on that one : yossapw
• doom : nandu666
• 10 weapons, carried at the same time please! : baron calamity
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  Super Shotgun, Doom II. Close second, shotgun in Painkiller. Both were immensely satisfying to use. Bl... : jason bergman
  • I don't think you quite grasp the question, dear sir. : Super Sparker
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  Depends on the style of game. If it's balls out action with not much consideration for realism (Quake, Un... : tomservo
  • Only noobs use mwheel to switch weapons. Didn't you get the memo? : vynn
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  Limited inventory and adjustable weapon skills, a la Deus Ex. : Conan
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    my vote as well. the upgrade system also helped foster a sense of connection with my favorite weapons. (<... : stgulik
    • Oh, man. Custom Duke weapons. HAWT. : Rice-Rocketeer
  • Oooooooh. Yeah, if you could do this. But it's...ah, hell. YEAH. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  I'd like to see a game that lets you carry more than two try and display them on a player who is holding ... : mikecyb
  • I think that'd be pretty funny too. : ThomW
  • You'd look like a gun store katamari : thaperfectdrug
• I like 10 guns sometimes but more often than not you end up just using 2-3 of them. In that case, I like ... : derelict515
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  ::: switching system ::: I like what HL does, ability to use numbers, mouse wheel, and most importantly ... : Nation
  • on the switching: Why? because it gives you options and allows you to quickly switch to what I want it t... : Nation
• If it's for what I'm thinking it's for...10, possibly in groups a la HL2. They bind nicely to the home bl... : speon
• Strategic since it prevents weapon hording. Although in the end the gameplay itself dictates on what sho... : Wombat Woo
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  Very dependent on the game itself. HL2 would suck if it limited the weapons you get where as something li... : sigpro
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    Why would HL2 suck with limited guns, when Halo and Gears clearly prove it works? : GeorgeB3DR
    • mainly because of the types of enemies they throw at you and how the game is paced. One spot would always... : sigpro
• 10 guns at once, because there are so many weapons in an FPS, usually, that are only useful in certain si... : SpaecKow
• 10 guns, instant weapon switch : VuduChild
• As many weapons as you have in the game. : NFXFSX
• Halo-style makes you think more about what you're carrying and what you pick up which can make things a l... : ThomW
• 10 guns + instant switching + plenty of alt-fires : mr.sleepy
• I want to have about 700 weapons at the same time. I want to beat the game 4 times and have over 30 guns... : NeoMoose
• I like how Half life groups the weapons. : stgdz
• depends on the game. In a straight-up shooter a la Painkiller, Doom, etc. give me as many guns as possibl... : tashtego
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  Having the ability to pull the weapon appropriate for the situation.. (ex. Quake) IMO is the best because... : Pneum0
  • I would argue that it doesn't noobify anything because instead of having access to all weapons for differ... : omnova
  • noobify? are you kidding me? : derelict515
• "Halo" style, I guess. Ten weapons is just too much these days. It's all about making intelligent cho... : ScrawnyJohnny
• I like Half-Life style, have everything. I hate making choices about which gun to drop. : suqur
• On faster paced games, lots of guns. Fewer was cool for Stalker or Deus Ex. It works good for CoD as w... : Freon
• Carry however many you want to. Lets the player choose what they want to use. : shred.
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  Depends on the type of game. If it's Doom or Duke Nukem arcade style, then give me a ton. If it's suppo... : David Craddock
  • Halo sure isn't realistic but the weapon system works quite well though. I think. : crummynz
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  Howabout being able to carry 10 guns, but out of 100 possible weapon choices? : fleabug
  • fucking AWP w/ mother-of-pearl grip whores : riptyde
• Depends on the type of game. Games with tactical FPS gameplay are better with limited weapons, games tha... : pigvomit
• Half Life 1 was awesome, i love being able to scroll the weapons w/o switching to them. : zagzig32
• I prefer the CS system. 1 rifle/machine gun/shotgun, 1 pistol, and some explosives. : Tommy Toolbag
• If I have a keyboard then I like to bind all my keys around WASD to weapons, so I'll take 10 please. I... : fluke
• I like only being able to carry 2 guns or 2 primary weapons and a backup like in Gears or Halo or CS. : SockMonkeh
• a few at a time, generally makes it funner : klearlyunseen
• Limited, forces me to actually use them. Also, offhand grenades are awesome, I now hate being forced to ... : Carnivac
• if i tell you, will you send me a Duke Nukem Forever mouse pad? : Korban
• I just want more reloading minigame type stuff like Gears. Probably my favourite thing about that game. : boredguy
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  Halo/Gears, because you really only want to use one or two weapons at any given time even if you could ca... : omnova
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    thats keeping fights too linear though, i don't want to be handed 2 weapons at the start of each level t... : zagzig32
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      they can all be in the level you just have to choose when to hold 2-3 : derelict515
      • i'd spend half the time gathering the guns into choke point corners. In CS fy_ maps I love bringing 2 g... : zagzig32
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      You don't have to keep those two weapons; the idea is that you constantly swap weapons in and out to matc... : omnova
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        how different is that from holding 10 guns in the first place? I'd rather have 10 guns than the restric... : zagzig32
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          ok have you even played Halo or Gears? Because its pretty pointless having this conversation if you don't... : derelict515
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            i haven't play Gears, i played the pc version of Halo 1. I understand how they are different, it just d... : zagzig32
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              if you think all it is is padding the gametime with backtracking there's not much else to talk about. I n... : derelict515
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                well, if you've got a shitton of diff enemies attacking w/ those different guns, than yea. But other tha... : zagzig32
                • well I don't need to pickup a new gun every 6 seconds. Within a few minutes of fighting guys across vario... : derelict515
                • ^^^ this guy is why you can never win an argument about anything on the internet.... : dkrulz
        • I care mostly that the weapons are balanced and suitable for different situations, so that they actually ... : omnova
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      You shouldn't have an opinion about something you don't understand. : vigilante
      • my point, http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15409307#itemanchor_15409307 : zagzig32
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  Depends, are we going for realism and strategy or balls out action? : Anti_dentite
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    Considering Halo and Gears, what does it depend on? I'd aruge you can do both weapon systems in both sty... : GeorgeB3DR
    • I don't think it truly matters so long as the weapons are all different, tactically and in how they feel.... : Magus
• I like the CS system myself. : snagger
• I much prefer a couple of weapons. Once you get more than a few they don't mean much. : thaperfectdrug
• 10 at once, quick change (e.g. hl2) for arcade shooters. the other method works great when you want to f... : smacknca
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  Load me up with as many weapons as possible. Screw the restrictions like Gears. I say, if a dev wants to ... : warcrow
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    can you imagine Serious Sam w/ 2 weapons¿ .... : zagzig32
    • Or Doom....or Quake.....or HL.......or Duke........ : warcrow
  • Oh, and instant switch a la Half-Life is great because it keeps things fast. I cannot stand it when it ta... : warcrow
• I like the current conventions. The fast shooters are fun when you can carry everything, but I also like ... : Noobler
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  Depends on the game. But for Duke, I'd hella like 10 weapons, all at once! : Rice-Rocketeer
  • Yeah... ten weapons, and I want to be able to fire them all at the same time. : crummynz
• Personally I prefer the Halo 2 system, dual wield anything no matter if it's over powered (Like the dual ... : Amnesty_intl2
• Every weapon and be able to bind them. DONT CONSOLE US : icon_of_syn
• i swear you asked something like this about a year ago : oHnOES
• Depends on the gametype. It is shoot em up run and gun or more tactical? : Serpico74
• You gotta ask yourself: how many weapons would someone as badass as Duke Nukem be able to realistically c... : Rice-Rocketeer
• The Quake system. Quite honestly, I don't want 100 weapons with different alt fires and shit. Just a ha... : Thresher
• This mainly applies to multiplayer, but can be read for single player... Maybe not necessarily 10 gun... : ImageOmega
• I like only having a few choices, otherwise I get confused with hot keys and the like. Really I like main... : Grim_Grom
• Halo? Luxury! Give me one weapon at a time a la Ghosts & Goblins. Get the torch? HAHA UR FUKT. : SiW73
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  mouse wheel select with Q for last weapon switch : Jayx77
  • oh and if you are limiting weapons, dont just do the 2 like halo, thats annoying : Jayx77
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    I've never used "last weapon" :( : thekidd
    • It's so nice to have in TF2 and CS. : sigpro
    • Me neither till I started playing TF2. Now it gives me an edge if I'm playing as soldier or Heavy and I ... : smegmar
    • neither have I. It gives me something else to keep in my mind. Besides I already have every other weapo... : redfive
    • Yea, that's like, the first thing I unbind. Pretty useless, I think. : aggressor
    • holy crap, its one of the most useful buttons in any fps where you use more than one weapon. you guys gon... : maulla
    • wut...I use it constantly. I switch from long to short guns constantly (and quickly) when I move through ... : Magus
    • I use it constantly, especially in games like CS:S and TF2. being able to quickly switch back to a secon... : deject
    • Neither do I, I can sort of see the use of it but I don't think it's any quicker than hitting the number ... : Begawkiness
    • Last weapon is so useful in games like Counter Strike. I have it bound to one of my side mouse buttons. B... : Serpico74
    • Me either. Don't think I could either. Discreet binds ftw. : Chunks
  • Agreed, for PC this is the way to go. : FushigiDenki
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  I like being able to carry lots of guns and having limited ammo available so I'm forced to use all of the... : haccess
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    i'd like to see power-ups & ammo be dynamic to how good you are doing, I think one game already did this ... : zagzig32
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      SiN: Episodes did this, and did this really well. It was a fun fucking game, dammit. : Rice-Rocketeer
      • thats it, i just couldn't think of the game : zagzig32
• Up to 10 weapons on my back (visually) with proper weight properties attached to them. Basically, if you... : DooBall
• I like having all the guns possible because it is just more fun to have that kind of variety. Althou... : rosewood
• I like having a lot of weapons, it adds variety to gameplay and strategy elements. Games like Halo, I fi... : Matt Burris
• I'd rather a developer spend time figuring out how to make enemy layouts dynamic so you can replay SP gam... : zagzig32
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  10 guns, and having the weapon switch being 1-5 and then drilling down à la Half-Life. Keeping th... : helvetica
  • I always turn hud fast switch on. : sigpro
• 3 guns max plus just works fine and adds more meaning to every shot fired. : posito
• I like how the Unreal Tournament games handle it. It's simple and fast. All of the weapons are powerful b... : ArB
• Simple and effective. Allowing me to focus on the game and not dicking around with the system itself. : scorpiusman
• I like having the right tool for the job. Let us have several weapons, so we can take our pick. I would... : smegmar
• Less is more. Good, quality weapons that are used for specific situations is much better than having seve... : vynn
• Whatever you can cram into your inventory ala Deus ex. -Or- Rambo+: Every. Fucking. Thing. : Durandal07
• It really depends on how many enemies the game throws at you... and if the enemies drop an ample amount o... : cycopl
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  depends on the gameplay. if its not trying to be realistic then have 100 guns. : papaskot
  • Agreed. : Ajax
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  Depends on the game. If we're talking about a Duke type game, then..... I want at least 100 guns. And ... : sevogajre
  • post thief! b& : papaskot
• it depends on how big the explosions those 10 weapons make : cpt_gloval
• Strategic choices ala Halo or Gears. : ifallible
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  i also like cars with guns : Mr.SEX
  • Car with trunk in which to store guns. Fallout 2, am I right? : Rice-Rocketeer
• depends on the game. If arcadey--shootem ups like quake/duke/doom/painkiller/UT/etc: 10 guns + alt firin... : mrsparil
• Whatever you choose, make sure you include UNIFIED AMMO. tomservo will thank you with blowjobs. : Kaiser
• will the shack get a credit at the end of DNF for helping? ...and lately i have been sharing remo's ... : AroundTheFur1380
• I like a mix, where I have to pick 3 guns to run with. That way I can have a pistol for backup, somethin... : pres589
• I like fewer guns. Like 1-2 rifles/RLs and then a pistol/knife for backup. : riptyde
• Depends on the style of game, but I prefer strategic choices. : re4ctor
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  If I'm Duke Fucking Nukem, I want to carry EVERYTHING : sexninja!!!!
  • but other than that i like tactical stuff. but i like tactical games so it makes sense :( : sexninja!!!!
• realistic games call for realistic weapon loadouts (STALKER, Ghost Recon series, etc.). fantasy games li... : kill9
• give me all 10, I'll choose what i want when i want : onji
• It really depends upon the game. George, Duke MUST be able to carry every available weapon at once. ... : Don Koharski
• This might sound strange but my favorite weapon system is for Ratchet and Clank. They kept upping the ant... : ieGod
• i like the BF2 way of handling weapons : gyokuro
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  I actually prefer being limited, it's less stressful and requires me to get more out of the guns I choose... : FushigiDenki
  • whoa... I was just about to type the exact same thing, including the Gears reference. Agreed on Half Life... : MikkleThePickle
• I like having access to every weapon in the game at once. : Vincent Grayson
• I prefer less weapons that require choice. I also really dislike the categorised weapon system that is u... : DrZettl
• the problem with only carrying 2 guns is that i tend to only even bother with about 4 of the 14 or so wea... : NeoMoose
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  Depends on the game. Personally, I'm getting kind of tired of having 10+ guns, however, games where it's ... : K1Bond007
  • Games like Battlefield have really turned me on to the less guns thing. Nowadays I definitely prefer gam... : riptyde
• It really depends on the style of the game - if it's a "realistic" military style game, I'm happy with a ... : mn3m0n1c
• screw 10, make it 15 : RikiTiki2
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  As many as you can fit in the game. : happynoodle
  • ^^^ having to choose between guns seems like an unfun chore. More ways to take out enemies is more fun th... : DrFlammable
• whats important is that whatever guns are in the game, they are all awesome. too often there are a millio... : not work safe
• I think the two-weapon only system only really works well when you're choosing between short, medium, and... : Magus
• I want modifiable guns. Give me scopes, silencers etc... : pancake humper
• I feel a little sick to my stomach whenever you post anything asking our advice about game design. I rea... : deathofrats
• George, we need to have a turret turret gun... a turret gun that shoots out other turret guns! : Maddog_Delphi97
• I say both- 1st playthrough you have a limit, which unlocks unlimited weapon carrying mode for the 2nd ti... : Borzoi
• The CS/SOF2 style has always worked well, but don't let it stop you from trying something new like Crysis... : GrimmyD
• As many as I want, but very little redundancy. 25 machine gun variations with 3 alt fire modes each are s... : ZombieAcademy
• My favorite weapon switching system would be the one used in DNF, if you would be so kind to actually fin... : Baby Batter
• stick to doom scheme, simple and works wonderfully; some weapons should be on the same key for extra awes... : Flynn
• As others have said, it really depends on the style and pacing of the game. I prefer limited weapon choi... : SolrFlare
• I kinda like the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. style of doing it. I'm not such a big a fan of the specific weight limit... : deject
• Depends on the game. Very actiony games should have more weapons. If a large part of the game is pickin... : Arcanum
• I totally enjoy having an arsenal, but the main issue I have with that is ammo availability. For instanc... : dopeman
• Give us unlimited ammo to go with our 10 guns as well please. : Dimmona
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  Starting with a pistol, and getting the SMG next, then shotgun, then progressively more powerful weapons ... : EvilDolemite
  • I partially agree in that I believe every single weapon should be useful. Quake 4 is a good example of... : Rice-Rocketeer
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  RUNE You have slot. 2 side holster, one large back holster, and one in your hand. If you can think... : hawke
  • guy, i dunno about you....... but i can ram some rather large objects up my anus........... : -=kodiak=-
• For SP or MP? In SP, I think especially in gears, while you carry a limited number of weapons, its fa... : MoreVespeneGas
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  Depends on the game. If it's no hold barred balls to the wall action I like the standard Quake/Unreal as... : Haku-Jin
  • ^^^ This is the definitive answer. : mafu5150
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  If I'm going to carry a billion guns at once, I like HL2 for weapon switching. I find limiting the num... : Rotten Deadite
  • Oh I'll also say this: carrying a hundred guns is pretty unrealistic, and kinda weird, plus it means havi... : Rotten Deadite
• I liked STALKER where I could carry a fuckton of weapons (lol ok with weight mod) but had to choose what ... : yAak
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  No weapons. I like me some adventure games. You should look into converting Duke to a pacifist who jus... : Kniggit
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    use: gun on: man : Durandal07
    • use: gun on: oblivious pottymouthed jerk : Arcanum
  • This post would drive a dognose to drink. : Orange Pylon
• I prefer realism but when a game is made for the arsenal in your pockets I have to say Max Payne games di... : Sailor of Fortune
• A limited number of slots works for games with a slightly more tactical edge to them (Halo/Gears/Rainbow ... : Begawkiness
• depends on the game and how realistic the situation is supposed to be. for a Serious Sam type game, the m... : edgewise
• Just anything keyboard basically. If I play it enough it becomes thoughtless instant access to a wide as... : Boxelder
• SP I like a lot of guns, multiplayer I prefer 1 primary, 1 secondary and a melee : aeg1x
• 10 guns. Games that limit your weapons tend to have shitty weapons. Halo had really shitty alien weapons.... : mista mista
• I just want a shotgun and a sniper rifle and maybe a rocket launcher. I won't use any of the other weapon... : nudel
• 1 gun that I can upgrade any way I see fit, longer range better accuracy, wider spread, faster rate. lik... : radula
• Anything in a shipping product. : RatBastard
• TF2 - because less is more. : [7]kami
• Quake 3 style, lots of weapons (the more the better) and instant switch *swoshswoshswosh* : razorblade79
• Fuck weapon choices. I will burn down the 3DR office if you go this route. 10 weapons at all times plz. : Maarten Goldstein
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  For a Duke game (ie very arcadey game that does not try to be realistic) then all weapons at the same tim... : sanchez
  • Yeah, depends on the type of game. If it's realistic, I like the weapons system from FEAR, 1 pistol ... : lightsam
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  You're asking this NOW? : red2lucas
  • Yeah, the first 10 years was evaluating and deciding which engine to use. Now they're thinking about weap... : GodZilly
• Something like Gears, four weapons seems fine. Just playing the orange box and handling ten guns with a D... : tcs
• I like many weapons. Some that can be used at any time to be artsy. I also like really oddball weapons. L... : intothefray
• I like turtles Gears of War : dael
• 10 weapons.... AT THE SAME TIME : r3dn3ck
• Multiple guns (HL2) but limited ammo. You might have to use a non optimal weapon at times but if you play... : CrankMonkey
• An inventory system, like what you have in Deus Ex, Stalker or SS2. : Autocrawler
• 10 guns at a time for sure. : moshman
• The only time I don't mind ditching a gun is when I am upgrading to one that is clearly better, of the sa... : Kenshin_
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  Realistic. I've never cared for the idea of carrying 10 guns at a time, especially since only a few are ... : Lone Swordsman
  • why would you put a gun in a game that wasn't useful though. : imperator
• That totally depends on the game, personally i prefer the unlimited weapons system for "normal" shooters ... : PnCia
• halflife, but i want an upgrad. I want to put weapons into a "dont switch" category. Like the crowbar. Ma... : filthysock
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  DAMNIT you guys from the past >:( : uebersoldat
  • Looks like most people said all guns. WTF George? : rick

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    Killin' striders Taking down combine Bashing headcrabs Saved the world a few times Still won't make a... : Ebu
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      lol, that last one isn't his fault. you must be intimidated by her, Ebu : MurrayTheSkull
      • He might make a move if he weren't mute. : davantalus
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  good politicians : metralgia
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    You may as well say, "Unicorns". : Magus
    • Ohhh the mythical Chimera! : Toth21
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  Pediatric trauma nurses. All they see are severely fucked up children. Don't know how they cope with that... : Pettytheft
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    Pediatric Trauma nurses Surgeons... I have respect for the nurses too, but the surgeons also have to s... : Flying h4x0r
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      I could disagree but we'd just be splitting hairs. Either way it's a shitty job. : Pettytheft
      • I highly doubt that they'd agree with you. : randomjgj
• Designers. I really love good design, whether it's print or a physical product. Even architecture would... : Thresher
• I've always been impressed with test pilots. : wild falcon
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  People that are happy in the morning. : vigilante
  • I'm happy in the mornings. Well, 2/7 at least. :( : Ebu
• Programmer / Architects. Guys who have basically worked in all aspects of development, at some point dur... : Ride-My-Rocket
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  this guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSj7VL24GV4 i can fathom it, but im amazed. i am pretty goo... : not work safe
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    but other than that, theres really nothing i cant comprehend or think that I cannot possibly do. i dont p... : not work safe
    • Did you really just claim that balancing on a bicycle is the most amazing thing you can think of? : FlatlineDixay
• leaders/managers/strategic planners : hobosapien
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwC544Z37qo : zakk
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  Surgeons. After working on a cadaver, I am in awe at how surgeons can go in there on a live person, fiddl... : freshyk
  • I think once I got inside, I would be ok... it's that initial cut into someone's skin that would freak me... : riptyde
  • I agree. I mean open heart surgery. WTF. You have a man's chest open and are screwing around with his hea... : pap26
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  This is pretty cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tzga6qAaBA : Haku-Jin
  • Wow! Just... Wow! : randomjgj
  • thats just nuts : willi7
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  engineers : mindshot
  • especially with all those spies harassing them >:( : Flying h4x0r
• Extremely talented (prodigy level) mathematicians and musicians. : ShekkyBoy
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  Standup comedians. How do they come up with their material? Amazing. : Bold
  • some of them don't come up with any original material, and still have successful careers, tv shows, and p... : liqker
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  Maarten Goldstein. How does he put up with that guy in Texas? Good lord, he's the Dutch Pope. : tomservo
  • LOOOL. : crummynz
  • Maarten shits in the woods? : riptyde
  • That needs to be his Halloween costume this year, the pope. : Chod
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  hedge fund managers that make like $300 million a year salary : gyokuro
  • Lol that blows you away in a good way? Scares the shit out of me! : Toth21
• Well don't forget they code their engines for 2 or more years, not in a day. : shirif
• I have worked with some of the best and worst people you could find. Some guys are very selfless and hard : Magus
• Car engineers, it blows me away how fucking retarded they can be. : Silent Jay
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  The President of the United States. Sends 4000 soldiers to their pointless deaths and doesn't even look b... : Baby Batter
  • Let's not forget the 600,000+ civilians here : nukewinter
• Extremely Talented Musicians both composers and performers. More so Composers. : discolando
• musicians people who are good w/ traditional art (not photoshop) : DOOManiac
• Pro skateboarders and Pro Hockey players. : soggybagel
• Porn star. someone had to say it : aethyr
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  Moms. Seriously, if it were up to dudes alone, there'd be a lot more kids walking around with no communi... : mafu5150
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    there's only one way to properly thank them... : j0nchan
    • step 1. cut a hole in the box... : retardhumper
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  Musicians, designers, and writers. Most everything else I could imagine doing well if I put a whole lot o... : sgtsanity
  • thats a very interesting perspective. have you ever tried to create a song or a story? : aurealis
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  Delta Force members. : ant_hillbilly
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    • I totally watch The Unit because of this author :( : Paranoid Android
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  people that work with retarded kids. seriously, i couldn't handle it. : virus
  • Ever have a stupid dog? It's a lot like that. : shortbuscaptain
• 747 pilots. : paravis
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  Airline Pilots. The pressure of the lives in your hands, plus the thought of flying so high in such a lar... : Cygnus X-1
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    This guy is pretty much the coolest pilot ever (an hour total, I think, but totally gripping): http://... : sgtsanity
    • That was a pretty harrowing and well told slice of life. Thanks for the link. : thewriter
    • This is really good, but when that narrators voice chimes in I just want to punch him. : Wombat Woo
    • That was amazing. I cried like a little girl. : TheMonkeyWench
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      Want to read about some amazing piloting - look up Al Haynes and the crew of United 232, the DC-10 that c... : TabsAZ
      • That's exactly what the video is about, told by Dennis Fitch. : TheMonkeyWench
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      What the fuck is with the interviewer? Oh my god... : sirkne
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        That "interviewer" is Errol Morris, one of the finest documentarians ever. : action wombmate
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          I don't give a shit who he is, he has no business talking in a video with a voice like that. I'd rather h... : sirkne
          • The fact that he doesn't have a Proper Radio Voice is part of what gives his movies their stripped-down a... : action wombmate
        • He really should have someone else do a VO for when he is asking questions : rosewood
      • Seriously : rosewood
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  someone who can just draw whatever they want in an instant. : edgewise
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    also, sleight of hand magicians. dudes who can do shit right in front of your face and you still miss it.... : edgewise
    • Like this guy? (Rickey Jay) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2v5E6vlY3w&mode=related&search http://w... : smegmar
    • A kid in my class last year did sleight of hand tricks all the time. Pretty sure he wants to be a profes... : skizl
• these guys http://www.chemistrydaily.com/chemistry/CERN : mega man
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  Accountants. Dealing with the tedium day in and out...I couldn't do it. : Conan
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    That's why they're almost all deeply boring people. UMax is coo tho! : node
    • It's because he's not an accountant! : Paranoid Android
    • Actually my mom is an accountant. I was speaking from direct observation. : Conan
• Hackers, like the kind in Die Hard 4. I really don't even know how I could keep all that hardware on m... : rosewood
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  Programming of any kind. CS etc. I honestly just don't have the mind set to do such complex (or in my ... : itsjeff9
  • "From coding for video games to Mozilla, and all other insane projects." Mad props. I really need to pr... : itsjeff9

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  nah. : jackalope
  • K why not? : dognose
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  Without question. : filtersweep
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    wait are we adults yet? : filtersweep
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      Only people with kids are adults. : dognose
      • shit : filtersweep
    • well you have grandkids or something and i still think you're a-ok so i'd say so : Mr.SEX
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    K next question: Why? : dognose
    • because WE HAVE THE MONEY WE HAVE THE POWER! the old fuckers dont know whats up with technology anymor... : oHnOES
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      Gaming was in it's infancy when we were born. It grew up with us. : filtersweep
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        true, and i think a lot of us have shown that you can be a well adjusted, social, and fun person while st... : Mr.SEX
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          Yeah it seems like games used to be the domain of teens and the 40 year olds who got stoned and watched c... : dognose
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            .... used to? : graceofdragons
            • So you think there are still "acceptable age" limits? : dognose
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        Or we have an attachment to it that we won't let go, since it took off during our childhood , that won't ... : devi| dog
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          it's not really looking that way. kids in college and high school probably play just as many games as we... : Mr.SEX
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            Yeah that's true, but I was kind of counting 18ish to 30 in the game blossoming era. I guess around the ... : devi| dog
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              also i know a decent amount of people who never really played games as a kid who play now : Mr.SEX
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                Any idea what got them playing? : dognose
                • DOA Extreme Beach Volleyball : filtersweep
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                  part of it was because i played and they wanted to do something that i enjoyed, then they just started di... : Mr.SEX
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                    Did you see an attitude shift? Did you see any "justification"? Like say the guy in line with the game ... : dognose
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                      yeah a bit of an attitude shift. it was more of something that was off their radar and then they became ... : Mr.SEX
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                        Do/did they eventually "graduate" to those kinds of games? The girls too? : dognose
                        • nope! : Mr.SEX
                    • When I purchased Guitar Hero 2 I told the people at the counter, who kind of smirked at me, that I was bu... : zerog83
        • No way. Kids in general are even more bonkers about games than we ever were. I don't ever remember seei... : filtersweep
      • Video gaming maybe. : MoreVespeneGas
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        Most gamers are not 40 years old. Gaming was started with PONG, not with nintendo. : AgentPothead
        • Honestly I think the Nintendo maybe Atari systems were the start of mainstream gaming at home, so I compl... : devi| dog
    • Halo series. : rosewood
    • Madden : genjuro
    • Diablo 2, Sims, WoW Also probably Madden/Fifa and of course a lot of Nintendo stuff (Tetris, Dr Kawashim... : razorblade79
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  Of course it is, silly. : Modica Sol Solis
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    So gaming is now looked at as mainstream entertainment? : dognose
    • yes : Mr.Fusion
    • Pretty much. It's great entertainment either way. Probably my favorite, though I do like movies and TV. : Orange Pylon
• Thanks to stuff like Xbox Live, The Wii and games like GTA, Madden, Guitar Hero I think. These are the... : Mondo
• Not if you're living vicariously through your sim. :( : Koral06
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  No. "Playing games" is okay, but being a "gamer" is still pretty odd. Something to do when you're bored o... : Magus
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    Two 35-year-olds in line at the store. One is wearing a suit and tie. One is wearing a Portal shirt. B... : dognose
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      How do you get past the fact that DNF has not been released? : Nighteyes
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        I don't ever even think about it. Now make Magus answer my question. : dognose
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          MAGUS. Answer his question before he thinks about it! : Nighteyes
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            I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the one in the Portal shirt is the bitch in the relations... : devi| dog
            • he never said the guys were dating each other, but interesting twist nonetheless... : steve_o
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      yea i do look at them differently the guy in suit and tie, id look at him as a guy playing a game in h... : -=kodiak=-
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        What if they sold monitors that emitted vitamin D? : dognose
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          i have absolutley no goddamn clue where yer goin with that comment then again, might be my current condi... : -=kodiak=-
          • WHAT IS YOUR CURRENT CONDITION!? : datoo
          • AHAHAHAHAHA YOUR CURRENT CONDITION IS BAKED. : PlanetPerfecto
  • Yeah, this. I'm 23 yet I only have a couple of friends that know anything about or would ever buy video g... : peanut-
  • I agree. I think that's really the difference between me and most of my friends that also play games. For... : tcs
  • The same could be said for any hobby you're not interested in yourself. If stamp collecting, crochet or t... : Balboa
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  yes, because we grew up. we're now becoming parents. this generation grew up as gamers, so it's more acce... : dahanese
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    True. I suppose the same could be said in relation to television. : Koral06
    • TV is more acceptable now than it was. i can tell you my dad didn't veg in front of the TV like our gener... : dahanese
  • You are? Congratulations! Due date? : rosewood
• I just finished an hour of playing The Incredible Machine for the first time since... 7th grade. I sure h... : tomservo
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  after seeing the look on the faces of the idiots at Bestbuy tonight when I asked for Ratchet and Clank, I... : smacknca
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    Did they scurry off looking for two different games? : dognose
    • first they told me they didnt carry it. then i showed them in their own damn system. they rebuttled wit... : smacknca
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  I'd say so because it's a much more mature industry. The 8 and 16 bit eras were mostly casual or arcade ... : K1Bond007
  • The story still makes no sense or is absent at least half the time. And I would bet that arcade games are... : razorblade79
• More like: Less unacceptable. : GodZilly

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  show jumped the shark 2 seasons back : oHnOES
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    2 seasons ago was the best season hands down. Last year was shit, though. : Borzoi
    • which seasons are you talking about here : oHnOES
    • I liked 3 the best still. 5 was actually pretty good, at least better than 4. : Sailor of Fortune
    • Season 4 was the beginning of the shark jumping IMO... Season 5 was indeed awesome, but 6 killed the sho... : TabsAZ
• Gaaaah. Can't click. I'm still finishing up season 5. :X : DOOManiac
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  Looks cool. I stopped watching after a few eps into season 3, tho. : Magus
  • thanks the stars you didnt watch season 6 : Degenerate
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  lol die hard 2'd : -=kodiak=-
  • lol i thought the same thing : AlexXdude
• So it's live Free Or Die Hard 24 edition???? : Toraz Chryx
• Red Foreman is going to put a foot in his ass. : Fred Garvin
• Damnit! That looks good but I know I will be let down. :( : stump
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  ummmmm, the fact a character who clearly died is back is clearly dumb : manlyman
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    he never got a silent countdown. : DarkWolf5
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      irrelevant, plot twists like this are somewhat ok when its just part of a season, but not when that chara... : manlyman
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        Well, he was injected with sodium penthanol which is used to induce medical comas. So it's pretty simply ... : DarkWolf5
        • I think he want revenge for the death of his wife... I'm not sure who he would blame. : semaphore
    • well then they knew not to have a funeral. : vigilante
  • Well the plot included Jack faking his own death to disappear himself from the Chinese... They will proba... : semaphore
  • When I saw the episode he 'died' in I actually thought that they didnt really show any death/closure for ... : Beady
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  the one good thing I can say is that Chloe wasnt in there : Degenerate
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    Yes she was, unfortunately only for a few frames (1:55ish) Notice how Janeane Garofalo is not in the t... : semaphore
    • goddamnit : Degenerate
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      watched again. youre correct. fucking shit. : Degenerate
      • no crap.. I don't even watch this show and I can tell you Chloe is a fucking worthless character with the... : fatman
  • i'm pretty sure i caught a glimps of her. : nyranger66
  • oh she was.... : manlyman
  • i call chloe "captain overbite' i wish she died in season 3 shame she didnt... and she's still arou... : -=kodiak=-
  • I've gotten to like her personality. She's actually a really well defined character and once you get over... : vynn
• As a diehard fan who hated Season 6, this trailer has me intrigued. Soooooooo glad that CTU is gone. Re... : PenicillinX57
• Throw me in the crowd that's kinda burned out on the show, but this looks ...promising. : Chris Faylor
• This trailer already looks better than all of last season. : Sailor of Fortune
• i'm on board! : dahanese
• OMG YES NO CTU! Unfortunately they still show a bunch of computer crap :( I think I'll turn it off if... : sanchez
• "Oh my god, they're on a collision course... FOR WACKINESS!" : BlackCat9
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  gay, that doesn't look like 24 anymore.. oh well, i'm sure it'll still be better than most crap. Lets fac... : Arsenal
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    Nope, after the first 4 or 5 episodes season 6 sucked. hard. : Toraz Chryx
    • nah i liked most of the episodes up to Jack killing bald dude with the chain.. that was further in than 4... : Arsenal
• After all of the shitty breaches CTU has had every season, I'm glad its gone. I wonder if terrorists j... : Beady
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  Looks like THERE'S A MOLE, FUCKING DUH, WHAT A TWIST 24! INGENIOUS! : thewriter
  • just wait until someone above jack chooses not to trust him, creating five episodes of jack having to do ... : hardfl1p
• wtf is this shit, Tony's back?? LAME : dael
• I didn't finish season 6. Should I bother? I watched 1-5 all the way through, though... : sirkne
• "our fans in the UK"? What about the other fans Kiefer? And hey aren't you in going to jail for DUI? : tunis5000

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  Silverfish? : guido anchovy
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    Too small. That's a dime. : trOmblyj
    • Baby silverfish then : FiReaNG3L
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  do they jump if you try and squash them or threaten them? if so, they are springtails. they breed like... : sicko
  • Yeah, they are springtails. thanks. : trOmblyj
• earwig : gmd
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  I don't see any bugs. I think you're going insane. : sKetchflow
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    Srsly, what are you one about tromblyj? : rosewood
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      I swear I saw a bug. : trOmblyj
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        All I see in that picture is a dime : rosewood
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          Come on, I see a dime and a bug! Anyone else seeing the bug besides me? : trOmblyj
          • Lols, you are going CRAZY : rosewood
• AIDS bugs. The small ones aren't too bad, but don't let the bigger ones bit you, as they carry a lot mor... : riptyde
• It's a dime bug, obviously. They're attracted to Roosevelt. : Trips
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  Utica Death Beetles :( : drucifer
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    Thank god I don't live in Utica then. : trOmblyj
    • they migrate... just sayin' : drucifer
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      ^ For many reasons, not just the death beetles. : trOmblyj
      • you ain't just kidding! : drucifer
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      my Mom's family lives in Utica. My uncle owns an apple orchard there. : bRAINsick
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        I saw Seinfeld there in May 2005 - it was a good show. : trOmblyj
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          are we talking about utica, ny? : papaskot
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            Yes. : trOmblyj
            • lol, theres stuff there? i thought it was a fake street sign on i90 in between real cities : papaskot
• insect : datoo
• Its going to get in your ears and nose while you sleep : posito
• your house is bugged! get out now! or just be very quiet : Ziz
• wtf, all i see is a fucking dime. : great-white
• needs something for size comparison, like a dime : SockMonkeh
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  Ok, Will someone please to point out the bug in this pic! : ghostmac
  • It's right next to the dime, silly. : trOmblyj
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    WTF i didn't see it there either. I though it was a bad link. : majestik
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      I didn't see it 10 minutes ago either, came back to the same damn link and now I see it? What the hell. : Barnahog
      • People were claiming that there was no bug, that I was seeing things, so I swapped out the pic with one w... : trOmblyj
  • in the nostril. : paravis
• picture should be named "now call someone who cares.jpg" : beastrabban
• it's a roach. : liqker
• DO YOUR DISHES : mattsull85
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  hard to tell from that picture, could be Saw-Toothed grain beetle: http://images.google.com/images?q=%09... : aethyr
  • Oh yea, I also got one of these, no idea if it did anything, but the traps + this got rid of them in abou... : aethyr
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  Try again, Plankton. No secret recipe there! : Pittst3r
  • rofl : action roommate
  • this is the best reply of the night : multisync
  • You better secure that dime! : Sailor of Fortune
  • lol. mr. crabs is happy. : hirez
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    I hadn't seen that show until my son started watching it about 3 months ago. fucking hilarious. : edgewise
    • Squidward has such great social commentary sometimes. : Sailor of Fortune
    • Yeah man. Spongebob Squarepants is great. My son and I love that show. :) : ThomW
• looks like aids : sexninja!!!!
• Its just a Cerebrum Bore Beetle nothing to worry about. : Durandal07
• I recommend a Heckler and Koch MP5 with about 1000 rounds of 9mm Hollowpoint. : Sailor of Fortune
• that looks like a baby cockroach. i would know. : dahanese

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  Yeah, I'll wait until I see something from a reputable news site, or a statement from Valve about this be : mn3m0n1c
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    Well, it's no crime to shop for the best deal. : Visceral Monkey
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      No, but caveat emptor always applies. And in this case the buyers were'nt even banned, they just lost the... : mn3m0n1c
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        I still have a hard time with it. The fact remains they purchased legal copies and did nothing wrong. : Visceral Monkey
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          I have these speakers in the back of a van I'd like to sell you. Perfectly legal. : Deathlove
          • Exactly! Who is to say these keys being sold from these e-tailers didn't come from stolen boxed copies, ... : liqker
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  Hopefully Remo or someone on the crack shacknews news team can get a response from Valve on this. : rosewood
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    At the Shack, they're all on crack. : Matt Burris
    • Cracknews : Bonestormm
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  Well, these retailers weren't authorized to do business with US customers. I think it is *them* who shoul : Rice-Rocketeer
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    Why should the supplier get to say who and where you get to sell to? : rosewood
    • I'm sure there's a contract somewhere along the line before it gets to the foreign retailer. : Prozium
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      I'm pretty sure there are international laws and crap about this stuff, I dunno. For example, if I buy... : Rice-Rocketeer
      • I never understood why purchasing hardware or stuff like this would be illicit. I mean, I buy a Japanese ... : Baby Batter
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        A lot of that has to do with crypto laws and I doubt that has anything to do with TF2 : rosewood
        • Well then, I don't know. *Shrug.* : Rice-Rocketeer
• didnt gims buy his like that? : Jayx77
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  Yeah my copy worked for a day and then was cut off on Friday. That was kind of shady and shitty of them. ... : ghost in my shell
  • good to hear it worked out. : Jayx77
  • The lack of nerd rage in this post is a pleasant change from the norm. haha : ThomW
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    Glad you got your problem sorted, but I'm not quite sure why you're complaining about the community forum... : Sapiens
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      I'm complaining about the community forums because they are fucking terrible. That's usually why people c... : ghost in my shell
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        We're blaming Valve for the quality of people that register and post on their forums? : Sapiens
        • More for the fucking retards they get to moderate the forums, There are only a few valve moderators, the ... : Beady
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    It's pretty sad that more and more companies are getting away from phone support and online-web-page-bull... : Magus
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      Valve's web-based support makes much more sense given the size of their company versus their millions of ... : Sapiens
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        I don't mind web based support, it is just when it seems like there is one guy and you never get any resp... : rosewood
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          I've had to contact Valve support several times in the past through the online support system and it was ... : Sapiens
          • Same here. Fun thing was i also posted my problem in evening reading and got mail by a Valve employee who... : [7]kami
      • I think few who've ever had a problem have found information, answers, or assistance in the steam forums.... : Merconium
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    Yeah Valves support is pretty piss poor. : VegasX
    • Insultingly so, given the direct-from-pub nature of Steam. : Merconium
  • PS: The retailer I bought the key from was legit Did you actually buy just a key, or did you get a nor... : Sapiens
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  http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?p=6895338&posted=1#post6895338 : nandu666
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    If you read my post above, this is exactly what I'm talking about. : ghost in my shell
    • i did, i just wanted to point out that this is on the valve forums : nandu666
  • "Their response was entirely irreverent to my problem!" Ha! : Rich McNinch
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  How is Valve doing this? What is their detection method? Does it match a regionalized key to your IP loca... : dodob
  • I don't think you'll get a definitive answer unless someone from Valve responds directly. Everything els... : Sapiens
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  FUCK YOU VALVE. Literally, the only thing to say is "FUCK YOU" There is no excuse, customers bought it ... : snowwolf
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    internet rage, how you fuel me with desire to go read my book. : dahanese
    • There is no salvation for you there : rosewood
    • watcha reading? : dodob
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      No, its called customer service, and valves has and always will be shit. I love the games : snowwolf
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        Always been shit how? : [7]kami
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          Steam is an overprotective POS and the Steam customer service has always been full of hassles, not to men... : snowwolf
          • Gimme something concrete to work with, cause right now you're just talking in circles about "things" bein... : [7]kami
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      Does working for a game company give you the same type of perspective I seem to get from working a normal... : Sapiens
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        it's funny actually there are two facets to her job (mind you I am oversimplifying for the purposes of th... : mikecyb
        • 'a living hell' should be in there at the end :( : mikecyb
        • Why even have the forum then? : rosewood
    • HEAR THAT, GUYS? IF WE ACT ANGRY, SHE'LL LEAVE! : Rice-Rocketeer
    • Oh yeah, definitely no reason to be upset here... : MaJeStu
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  This seems as bad as DVD regional encoding to me. It's not the first time games have had some kind of reg... : nudel
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    And as with DVD regions, is there any solution for when people move countries? : nudel
    • I would just submit a support ticket to ask before I moved. : Sapiens
  • At least with DVDs there is a big ass icon that says your shit won't work outside of the country. : rosewood
• As long as all my shit works when I get home I'll be happy. (I bought my OB here in Taiwan for $22, whic... : MacemanInTW
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  Holy crap, glad I didn't do this for the orange box, only for C&C3. That doesn't sound even barely legal ... : razorblade79
  • What sounds illegal about it? : rosewood
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  OMG VALVE ARE FAGS! I'm sure its some kind of law/contract that they have to follow. They wouldn't screw... : jaffacake
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    It was a fuck ton cheaper and who cares where you bought it from? : rosewood
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      Oh well you get what you pay for I guess. Doesn't that ring alarm bells if something is way cheaper than ... : jaffacake
      • It is a shame they don't just say why they are doing this. : rosewood
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  Bringing region codes into the digital real, way to go you idiots : tcs
  • Yep, congrats Valve on being the first company to bring region codes into digital media. /sarcasm : Phreakin

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  which server exactly? : pyide
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    The one that says, test server. : razlebol
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      i don't see one that says test server. there's one that says hellgate test center. is that right? underne... : pyide
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        yes that one. It has the newest patch with lots of new stuff. Better Ui. No more clicking next next next ... : razlebol
        • oh yeah? I'll have to try it when i get home. But I really like my rediculously powerful marksman. : graceofdragons
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  Come retail is anybody going to be playing strictly hardcore? : Wombat Woo
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    No. I'm not sure if I'm going to pay monthly or not, to begin with. Even then, probably not. : mittense
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      err. i just played and its an fps?? i was playing a rifleman : oHnOES
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        wtf? : razlebol
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          i just looked at screenshots and i guess rifleman is FP. which is sorta lame : oHnOES
          • Melee combat is forced into third person. Ranged have the choice between third person and first person. : Wombat Woo
          • actually, it's sort of all kinds of awesome, but Third of FP, it doesn't matter, the controls are equally... : graceofdragons
          • oh, I did not understand what you were saying at first and thought you were posting at the wrong place. T... : razlebol
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            how is first person lame?!?!?!?! Thats the selling point for me. : klearlyunseen
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              in a diablo "clone" or whatever this is supposed to be.. i guess im just old school :( mythos seemed ... : oHnOES
              • sigh : oHnOES
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                all characters can be played in 3rd, it's just an option for ranged classes ... at least that is what I u... : Nation
                • oic, didnt know that. but the aspect of BEING able to be in FPS is i guess a "step forward" in the actio... : oHnOES
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              having played it I can safely say I have no interest in using the FPS view : derelict515
              • It's all I use on Marksman, it's a blast. I'm really not sure I'm going to like a Melee Character. : graceofdragons
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  How do you chat with everyone else? When I press enter I can only chat with the level I'm in. I see [chat... : freshyk
  • /chat : razlebol
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  which is better shack? hell gate of mythos : oHnOES
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    OR mythos : oHnOES
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      Both are awesome. Mythos being a Diablo 2 clone with amazing skill trees. Hellgate being an expansion on ... : graceofdragons
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        Can't really say for hellgate yet. There is a story if you follow the main story line quest and there are... : razlebol
        • Its the presentation that loses me. I can't follow the main quest line because I'm being asked to do so m... : graceofdragons
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    Both are fun but Mythos is a little cookie cutter and very very slow leveling compared to modern games. : mrwolf710
    • I would love to play Mythos if anybody finds an extra invite in their loot stash. Its sounds dreamy as I... : Lightzout
  • At this point in time I prefer Mythos because it feels better designed. Better skills, better items, a mo... : aeg1x
• HEY GUYS sorry I'm not replying to messages and stuff, I think since I'm the guild leader I'm unable to t... : MisterPhoton
• Hellgate Evokers: What skills are you guys all using? I find that I'm partial to Firestorm because ... : Rice-Rocketeer
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  I can't believe one patch can fix the game as much as this new patch does. It's amazing. Most of the bu... : mrwolf710
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    Wiat, you can download it? : Rice-Rocketeer
    • Just select the test server from the list and the download will start. : razlebol
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    are the 'subway stations' instances? if so fuck that game : oHnOES
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      you just don't want to like this game do you? : graceofdragons
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        no i do! i honestly do, i want another dungeon crawler but instances with the same layout (from what you ... : oHnOES
        • huh? the stations are just meeting places/midway town type deals the 'dungeons' themselves are a mix o... : Gauss
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    The patch is available? : cpt. ken
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      Doesn't look like it. I just logged in, and nothing could be downloaded. Also, EAStore download isn't wor... : Rice-Rocketeer
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        Select the test server... : razlebol
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          Oooommffgg. : Rice-Rocketeer
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            There's another server up now, too. Shuggoth - US. : Rotten Deadite
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              Is this realm-based? Does it matter which server we go onto? If so, we should make sure we all join th... : Rice-Rocketeer
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                Oh, weird. Right after I joined the test server, I joined Shulgoth, and it is downoading more stuff yet a... : Rice-Rocketeer
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                  Yeah it's rolling back; shulgoth is an earlier patch version. Doesn't matter, it's all getting wiped o... : Rotten Deadite
                  • Gudverdamnte. : Rice-Rocketeer
            • Oh, but it has an older, outdated, earlier version of my character without all my hot new loot :( : Rotten Deadite
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    official beta update news on that patch: "Oh yeah. You might see a new server environment pop up. This... : Lionel2b
    • if you can get onto the new test server omg its 1000x better : MisterPhoton
  • Flagship Studio 1 - Marteen Goldstein 0 : razlebol
  • heh, the new patch hard freezes my computer periodically. win! : Gauss
  • Damn, this patch is pretty big. Lots of stuff to download. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  Who is forming the Shack guild? : Rice-Rocketeer
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    once it goes live? I'll form it as soon as I have 10k palladium...I may be taking halloween off from work... : MisterPhoton
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      How about camel case? GiantCommunistRobots : Arcanum
      • There's also a character limit, not sure what it is, though : MisterPhoton
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        I say GCR for posterity as well. But if we can't get GCR, what do you fellows think would be a good na... : Rice-Rocketeer
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          HWM : Wombat Woo
          • I'm pretty sure it's Shack Law that it's gotta be either GCR or HWM. : TastyWheat
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          OGC : cpt. ken
          • Online Giant Comunists : oHnOES
    • I'll beat you to it! I already have our webspace bought'd ... : bipolar
    • PeterPuffers : skinlab133
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    Not me! I'm scared of commitment. : cpt. ken
    • I'll take the torch, since I'm going to be buying the founder's offer : MisterPhoton
• I thought they were wiping accounts on Friday? : Rotten Deadite
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  Anybody still doing the guild invites on the test center? : Wombat Woo
  • only guild leader can invite...and he's offline : Reptile
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  Anyone else not able to talk on Test Realm? I joined up and played for a few hours, never heard another p... : graceofdragons
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    Hit ` (tilde) to bring up the console, it has party guild and global chat all on there. : devi| dog
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      yeah, i know that, it was empty, like chat servers were down : graceofdragons
      • Ah, well there is chat there for me, but it does seem sparse. : devi| dog
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  are there any reliable stats on class usage frequency? : Foxhawk
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    If history repeats itself, I'd say that the popularity order would be pure dps, pet based and the tank ty... : Wombat Woo
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      TONS of evokers. :| Goddmamit. : Rice-Rocketeer
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        really? Thought it would be Marksman, Evokers are so boring. : graceofdragons
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          You take that back, faggot. : Rice-Rocketeer
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            i'm pretty sure that marksman will be the most common by a wide margin. : Foxhawk
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              I bet Blademasters are the most common because it's the first class you see when the character screen lo... : mrwolf710
              • This a total beginners error in mmo-design if that is the case.... one should ALWAYS present choices like... : imperator
            • if this is true I should have made a guardian. :( : deject
        • Evoker is the most awesome class. I bet you played for 5 levels.. People need to play at least 10 levels ... : razlebol