Fallout MMO Proposal Detailed, Budgeted at $75 Million

After what they did to the elder scrolls i have little hope for my beloved fallout series.

I mean they had Morrowind, which despite its rough edges and tedious beggining was probably the greatest CRPG ever made, with a story that sucked you in (after a while) and a massive unique and original world to explore with quests that were challenging and cerebral. It was a role-playing game where the role you were playing was meaningful to you, where there was always something more out there for you to find that made the game exploration fun. The dungeons were huge and maze like.
Morrowind stayed on my hard drive for 3 years.

Then along comes the complete let down of oblivion. I game where the story is so dull and boring you end up skipping past all the dialog in annoyance. The world is generic and repetitive. The exploration is more like walking around and looking for icons on your map. The items are generic and repetitive. Every dungeon is small and pretty much identical to the last one you were in. The game is virtually over after a month or two of play.
Oblivion stayed on my hard drive for 3 months, and that was only because i sincerely hoped the game might become fun again after beating the main quest and becoming completely and utterly boring after only a month of play if i just let it sit a while, but no it is not fun to play anymore, its boring.

And the thing that really pisses me off is all the idiots who said Oblivion was better than Morrowind. These people obviously didn't play the game for the role-playing or the story, but more for the gimmicks like graphics and combat.

Now bethesda probably thinks they know what gamers want: Graphics and combat... but heres a newsflash: fallout 2 had shitty graphics and combat and yet many people played the hell out of it for the roleplaying and story. The same people that cried when they got there asses kicked trying to raid a morrowind dungeon at level 3. Bethesda took care of you pansies and left there loyal fans in the dark.

If bethesda makes another hack job sequel that takes a fine CRPG franchise and turns it into an action based brainless bore like oblivion i swear they will burn in hell for all i care, i'm not gonna be stupid and wait in line on release day for another main stream stupified sequel. Oblivion was made for xbox and xbox gamers, not crpg gamers. I hope this time they stop and take a look at what the previous games were all about and not deviate from that completely in an attempt to reach a broader but very short-term audience. Of course they make more money this way so i would bet on thats whats gonna happen.

Why make a game that engrosses your smaller core group of gamers for years when you can pump one out that empresses a large group of gamers for a couple months. That seems to be bethesda's new motto. They got greedy and their games have suffered.

CHRIS TAYLOR!!! If you're out there, please work on this!

I'd rather see 7 games like Gears of War for this money. They can spend the remaining 5m on hookers and blow.

While Cold War inspired, WTF does Fallout have to do with 1945-1990!?!?

I am psyched for this game - sad to say I couldn't play thru the whole fallout or fallout 2 because it took too much time. I suppose MMO's wont be for me in the long run because they are just such a time suck...

If someone could make an MMO that was more casual where people could use intelligence to succeed more easily it'd be helpful :-P

ok, I'll admit it. I've never played Fallout. The box intrigued me every time I saw it in a store but I always passed on it for one reason or another. So what's the overwhelming quality that makes it so endearing to everyone? The story, the graphics? Nostalgia?

This game will never happen. The incompetent, empty shell that's left of Interplay couldn't produce a Tetris clone with $75 million. The proposal is an attempt to scam investors, a la Infinium and Phantom.

I just pray to God that Bethesda understands Fallout.

75$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hmmm I wonder if it really takes that much money to make a mmo? Seems kinda nutz then again all I have done is mods and XNA so what do I know just seems pretty insane.

Intresting --> [$30 million for the launch]

I hope this is something different than a WoW clone set in the Fallout universe. I'd rather see a new single-player fallout game, but if done right (which I doubt), this could be interesting.

Also, a $75 million budget is absolutely crazy.

Heart = aflutter. Please dont get canned... please dont suck...

Good lord, given how Bethseda has turned to the dark side lately (console cross-platforming - see the crappiness that is Star Trek: Legacy if you need an example), I'd not be holding my breath for this.

Not to mention that we need another MMO like we need more terrorists in the world. The only thing that makes this story interesting, to some of us, is that it's set in the awesome Fallout world. That part would or could be cool.

"War... war never changes."

Numbers like that make baby Romero cry.

Ironically being the gamer I am, I have never stepped foot into a Fallout game, shameful however that may be!

So I'm sorta looking forward to this now given that it will be a new world to me at least :-D

A new Fallout game... 0_0!

by Interplay... :D

that's an MMO... >:(

and isn't coming until 2010... :_(

Good luck to them getting 1 million users. I think WoW has blinded devs a bit. No MMO other than the Lineage series and WoW has hit 1 million+ users, and the Korean fanbase propels them both.

Estimates are that EQ had 450k-550k users at its peak. SWG - 350k. DAoC - 250k.

1 million is still a near impossible feat for most games.

Where do I pay? I can sign up right NOW. Got my credit card ready.

You know, best of luck to them, but...

I could see them hitting 1 million subscribers if they took $30M of that budget and comped the subscription fee for the first year. Even then, they'd have to make a killer game, which seems to be the part that most everyone who makes MMOs forgets about. If this game is an EQ clone like WoW is, then forget it, but if it has something radically different to offer, then maybe.

I swear, if the game has you starting out in a field stabbing mutant butterflies with a rusty knife... Is there a way you could buy negative stock in a company? Lets say you were fairly certain they were about to dig themselves in an amazingly deep hole?

And I thought when I asked for 3.5 I was thinking xbox huge. :(

I love how everyone has decided to either hate the notion, or be absoulutely in love with it. I say... fuck all of you till we get some betas in our hands. Then I'll make a decision. Till then everyone keep enjoying WoW or Warhammer (whenver that comes out)

I personally despise the time suck that MMO's generate (been there, really don't want to go back).

If there's an MMO that 100 percent eliminates grinding... saving/bidding DKP... and is an enjoyable experience to play, then I'll sign back on, but otherwise good luck to everyone else.

FO is an established IP... however if the MMO needs to succeed they need to release a "AAA" product that'll get everyone's attention before the release of the MMO otherwise it'll just collect dust; ie brotherhood of steel and tactics (though i guess some ppl liked tactics - not I)

Oh, and think of all the mutant rats that you are going to have to kill to lvl up your n00b vault dwellers.

I think the budget is reasonable. MMO games have the highest income potential of any concept on the market right now. Far, FAR greater than any traditional gaming product does. I mean, hell, WoW probably pulls in more revenue in a month than this game's entire budget...

This won't happen on that budget or that timetable. This seems to me more like a value proposition for some other company with developers and funding to come bid for what Interplay thinks it's worth.

Don't get me wrong I love fallout, have all of them even the horrible xbox release, but I don't understand how a company that released some of the sweeeeetest tits titles of all time ended up in such a sorry state, and then to add to the tradegy, they expect someone to trust them with 75 million.

Sure when you bring up WOW numbers then 75 million sounds like a sweet deal, but Fallout isn't WOW, and its very hard to see anything but WOW in the future of the MMOG landscape, anyone have a clue as to what the next WOW would be?

Btw what the frack is 30 million launch for, digital distribution, debt consolidation, BONUS TIME>?

I love Fallout, but I don't see it ever being anything other than a niche game if it ever sees the light of day.

In a way this pitch is probably the fat lady singing for Fallout, because I can't hold a candle for Bethesda bringing anything worthy to the table.

WOE... Woe never changes, and woe the frack is me. Word.

Interplay hopes to achieve a userbase of 1 million within a year of launch, with the game becoming profitable within the second year and bringing annual income of $50 million starting in the third year
That always cracks me up when companies make bold statements about their future success, especially for something as hazardous as a MMO..
Does anyone know some of the past projections for Matrix or SGW so we can have a good laugh?
(Now I really wish Interplay the best with this game, that IP certainly deserves it, but such declarations are perfect cannon fodder..)

I'm ready to sign up now. Lets do it. I want this to happen.

75 million... wow. dudes will be jumping off bridges if this flops.

So we get two Fallout games an MMO and a normal RPG from Bethesda that's pretty cool.

doomed to failure. Fantasy mmo with elves/goblins and tons of mythologically related and recognizable creatures spans generations. Post-apocolyptic simply doesn't.

I hope it turns out to be good.

This game does not exist...I don't want to see a FO MMO game...lalalala!

Best Case Scenario: An MMO that isn't just another fantasy hack n' slash.
Worst Case Scenario: Auto Assault...on foot!

I bet that includes Bugatti's for every employee.

I bet that $75 million includes Bugatti's for every employee.

I have little hope for both this and the Bethesda Fallout.

I pray the Fallout name isn't tarnished forever after this. :(

Bethesda making Fallout games?
the MMO with a studio that's had WoW experience?

My favorite PC RPG series migrates to my least favorite genre. :(

I am excited for this. The atmosphere of fallout was one of the reasons I loved the games so much. Crappy cities, shantytowns, radiation infested people, abandoned military bases - the list goes on. With a launch data of 2010 that should give me time to quit WoW so I can play this instead.

Please let them use the special turn-based system