Modchipless XBox Linux

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  Which we already have on our PCs. ...I'm not really understanding the excitement, here. : Zibro
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    Dunno about you but my PC doesnt output to a big widescreen TV. Although my xbox goes to my monitor so th... : Blackdawgg
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      No, but my PC outputs to a nice 22" monitor. And for controllers, well, they do make them for PC, as well... : Zibro
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        50" TV > 22" monitor : freshview
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          not with 740x480 xbox video signal its not. : Cygnus X-1
          • Allright, then we have a difference of opinion here. I would rather watch movies and things on a TV than... : freshview
        • Not with 5MHz video bandwidth. You know: 220MHz > 5MHz : Aubrey Philipsz
    • I can output to whatever i feel like with my video card. : petetong
    • mine does, HDTV format and all and it outputs 5.1 dolby transcoders rock : crash3087
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    Until you've tried XBMP or MAME on X-Box, you have no room comparing it to running it on the PC. The XBox... : diehlr
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      Fuck SNES9x. I am zSNES for life, sir. : Zibro
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        Like I said, don't knock xSNES9x until YOU have tried it. SNES9x on the PC is horrid. xSNES9x on the othe... : diehlr
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          I didn't say anything about xSNES9x. I'm talking about SNES9x vs. zSNES. I have no doubts that zSNES o... : Zibro
          • Like I said, you can't say ZSNES on the PC > xSNES9x because you haven't even tried xSNES9x. You are basi... : diehlr
    • Speaker of truth here, gentlemen! : timm
• Now that makes sense. I imagine it is only a matter of time, now. I can't wait! : pyrogen
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  exactly. This is why it is cool. especially for those of us not interested in chipping our X box. I ... : freshview
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    There are programs that do this on the XBox already (xToolbox for plain copying, XBMP for streaming media... : timm
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      xBMP requires a mod chip. : gmoney
      • Yes, I know.. I was just saying that those programs exist, even without the approval of Microsoft. : timm
• Just live in Australia, where it's legal and cheap to mod your xbox, then run programs like XBMP and the ... : seven

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• but they cant protect against buffer overflow stuff without major changes that could only be done in crea... : marku5
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  i hope so. cheaters and thieves suck. : sucko
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    Who is doing the stealing? And for that matter cheating? I suppose if you kneel before God/Allah/MS E... : misery
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      So everybody who is not a criminal "kneels before God/Allah/the law regularly"? If you aren't one of the ... : Aubrey Philipsz
      • woops, thanks for pointing that out. What I meant was if you kneel before the MS EULA as one would bef... : misery
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    Excuse us for using a fantastic system as a home entertainment system, or an FTP server, or wanting to us... : timm
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      Hmm i think i read several threads on other boards about how to get live and mods working : -TKF-
      • You can switch between modded and Live!, but you can't play on Live! without "turning off" the mod, so in... : timm
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      You already have a PC, though. Unbeknownst to many, it seems, PCs too can run emulators and FTPs and web ... : Zibro
      • yeah but they don't come pre aseembled with everything an xbox has for 200 bucks. This is just a good wa... : [karma]
      • But this one is $199, can play games, has 5.1 dolby out, ect. : project13
• metal detectors? : not work safe
• you're right, they'll be much harder to chip on the plus side, they'll still be vulnerable to buffer-o... : jcupitt

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  You can do tons of cool stuff on your Xbox with this... : Namlemez
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    I already do. : Fred Garvin
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      but you can do more stuff without illegally modding your x box, such as running divX and MP3 players : freshview
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        Since when is modding your Xbox illegal? : Halen
        • DMCA can be interpreted enough (as it has in the past) to make a modification of hardware you own illegal : indeego
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          When the modchip contains parts of the original BIOS. : Carnivac
          • There we go, I knew there was a good reason. : Halen
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      what do you do with it? : Pneum0
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        It's a game console! What might he doing with it? Fixing meals of course. *rolls eyes* ;o) : Aubrey Philipsz
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          I was thinking he was solving social issues. : freshview
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            Yes, world hunger and such. : Fred Garvin
            • pretty much what I figured.. but why did you make the reply if all you do is games? You made it sound li... : Pneum0
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    like what? : timmie
    • Haxorise your tarballs : Rapid 99
  • tons? or one or two that are just variations on a theme? come on, this is just silly. : sucko
  • http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=7107448 : seven
• non ms fan boys probably : personaljesus
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  Homebrew game designers, perhaps? With this and a bootleg copy of the xbox dev kit, you could make xbox ... : wesn
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    That's not homebrew gaming. Why not do the same thing on PC? : Fred Garvin
    • I dunno...personally I'd prefer to do it on the PC, but if you were to believe some people you'd think PC... : Vorlonesque
• doesn't this start to open the way towards modchip-less modchipping? so anyone who wants to chip their... : jcupitt

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• try www.cheapmod.com : pnkrckjoe
• http://www.aec-echlin.com/xbox_modchip/ : SlimJim
• I got mine really fast from these guys: http://modchip-source.com/ Worked fine, and it was the first ... : Chunks
• love the site btw. :) : d3tached
• please make this sonic arcade thing stop!!! : diddlyd

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• its gonna become a number 1 seller now : diddlyd
• BWAHAHAHA!! That game went from TWiNE on the PC via the Q3 engine to an exploit aid! Brilliant! : the archvile

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  The XBox + Modded + XBox Media Player is exactly the product *I* was looking for.. : timm
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    Why do you need a modded Xbox? And don't give me that "so I can play imported games" thing either. : phreakin911
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      Xbox media player is coming along very nicely. I think its worth modding for the media player alone. I ... : pnkrckjoe
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        This is the _only_ reason I got the XBox. Being able to play games is just a nice added bonus. : timm
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          Can I get a link to XBMP? : snagger
          • NM, google is our lord and savior. : snagger
• http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/13393/ : SlimJim

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  Please stop sigining your posts. Signed, All the Shackers annoyed by it and afraid to say so. : Cygnus X-1
  • werd. : pinkeye
  • I was just half annoyed. It was under the treshold to actually ask him to stop. : Aubrey Philipsz
  • i was just 2/3rds annoyed, not quite enough to say something but yeah since you bring it up... : Steve Gibson
  • didn't really bother me at all. : freshview
  • Amen, I was pondering saying something to dougb, too. Also, poop. : seven
  • hah you'll survive chief. -The SAMe : SERIOUSly the SAMe
  • iawtp : personaljesus
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    Agreed, This isn't a messageboard. : MuaaSan
    • since when? : Slowtreme
  • iawtp2 : Dimmona
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  It was hacked ages ago, this challenge was to hack it without a mod-chip : xenoeye
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    Hacked how so? I have yet to see all the programs and servers etc people on slashdot were saying would be... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
    • make ramen, not war : newo
    • It is the end of the world. Now stop it! : indeego
    • Probably the biggest xbox site, for people with chips.: http://www.xbox-scene.com/ Games not released... : Chunks
    • Well you know im not blind and i can easily look up at you nick... posting a sig like that is rather poin... : supaslasha
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      Yes, the more I think about you signing your posts, the more annoyed I get. If you posted more often you... : ZeroDegrees
      • Damn well i'm sorry my boy ZergoDegrees is getting "annoyed" by reading 8 characters of text but because ... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
    • Yeah, just go ahead and stop. :D Your username is clearly visible. Plus, it seems you will gain a lot of ... : Downforce
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      If you haven't seen those it's because you haven't looked. I have a modded Xbox with an ftp server, media... : jidar
      • That's pretty impressive though I didn't know modded xbox's could do all those things. I guess i'm out of... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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      your sig makes me wish we had a user ignore list. which is a shame because your posts alone aren't annoyi... : d3tached
      • damn time to get out more. It's a good thing about 2hrs ago I posted i won't use it because some people r... : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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  stop being a hater. : poppasp1ce
  • No playa haters allowed...heh : cadbury

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• BECAUSE!!!!!...ummm thats all i got : Q-ball
• It's linux on a Microsoft console. I mean come on. Don't you get it? : bRAINsick
• This is why: The XBox is sold for less than it costs to manufacture. The money is made by selling the ga... : Aubrey Philipsz
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  The Xbox is cheap. I think it's cross-subsidized (right word?) by selling licenses to game developers. Wi... : fragsausen
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    So let me get this straight, an X-box which is a 800Mhz CPU with less than 256MB of ram, no harddrive, no... : UTSD3DSUCKS
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      it does have a hard drive... : Steve Gibson
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        And it's only 64mb ram, if I ain't wrong. : larcho
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          64MB shared RAM. : Fred Garvin
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            Really ? ... didn't knew that. Shared for video too ? : larcho
            • Yes, the RAM is shared across all program, video and audio. It has the most RAM of any console, but it's ... : Fred Garvin
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              not to mention sound, animation, ai.. not exactly the dream development environment : marvelouscain
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                How will doom3 do in a Xbox ? : larcho
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                  according to carmack, "pretty good" : Steve Gibson
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                    That is something I still don't understand. A GF4 P4 2.4ghz can still be slower than a 733hz GF3 console ... : larcho
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                      Because it's a fixed hardware platform, don't have to worry about how an effect will work on thousands of... : Carnivac
                      • also the resolutions arent gonna be as high you can tweak everything for just that one machine alth... : crash3087
              • All consoles are hard to code for, some are just less evil. : Fred Garvin
              • exactly, but still it has more memory than ANY other console. But its not insainly more powerful, thats ... : ease_one
        • I said less than....I was not sure but I knew it was not 256 so.... Thanks anyway... I still do not se... : UTSD3DSUCKS
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        Sorry, I'm not into consoles, so it does have a HD, how big? : UTSD3DSUCKS
        • 8gb .... or was it 10gb ? : larcho
        • Eight to 10 gig depending on the HD supplier I believe, although whether all of the 10gb ones is availabl... : Carnivac
        • 8GB. That's why you can download new content and copy CDs on to it. : Fred Garvin
• I've heard that people can use it as a media center kind of device. Once it is hacked you can throw on a ... : krazy_yak
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  The reason I want this to work: A small, quiet, non-ugly HTPC with dolby digital and component output. ... : batkiwi
  • non ugly? :-) : Rapid 99
• it's quite a decent little server for $199. : ariakaz
• I want to use my Xbox as an FTP server. Maybe even a web server too. : SlimJim

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  Linux bird was killed by Teammate MS X-box's Panzerfaust Linux Bird was Gibbed by Teammate MS X-box's Pa... : UTSD3DSUCKS
  • hahaha : TPSReport
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  Buing an X box != putting more money into "M$"s coffers. : freshview
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    Agreed. MS loses money on every Xbox sold in the hopes that they make it back and then some on the softw... : snagger
    • uh actually, not buying an xbox hurts them even more :D better to make a portion of your profits back rat... : jarodm
    • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! If you are buying an XBox and not any games in order to "Stick It To The Man!" you a : RatBastard

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  *remembers being shocked at how easy it was to pirate stuff on the Dreamcast* Wasn't that cos of Windows... : j33uk
  • Had nothing to do with CE. : Fred Garvin
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    I don't think it had anything to do with WindowsCE. That was just an option as a development environment... : Carnivac
    • Aaah, I heard somewhere that due to the lack of security in CE that you could screw with copy protection ... : j33uk
    • the specifc hardware fault was that they didn't do anything to prevent the system from reading CDRs until... : roushimsx
• the potential of serious abuse attracts people, sad but true back in highschool copying games for that... : -=kodiak=-

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  if people buy an XboX without buying games to accompany it, then that is hurting MS financially. That is ... : ultramega
  • I half agree. It is criminal. : Chunks
  • It's very far from criminal. : I=O=N
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    Oh, there's a law saying, "buying an Xbox without games is a crime"? : tedv
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      No, exploiting security flaws, however, is another matter all togather.......... : UTSD3DSUCKS
      • lol, "exposing" what security flaw? Until they can do it over the Xbox live network then it really doesn'... : phreakin911
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    No - its stupid for microsoft to be selling something they know they take a loss on Its not even close... : rosewood
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      Any attempt to disassemble, decompile, create derivative works of, reverse engineer, modify, further subl : ultramega
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        That wasn't even the argument. Buying the XBox without buying games for it, was. : timm
        • which is what some people might be encouraged to do with this. Its illegal. : ultramega
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        EULAs can suck my hairy balls. When i buy something I own it and can do whatever i damn well please with : I=O=N
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          Ok, so when it breaks you pay to get it fixed right? No warranty or free repairs? : phreakin911
          • What i mean is it shouldn't be illegal, just void your warranty. : I=O=N
      • That eula is not legal, though, so it's a moot point. : batkiwi
  • Nobody is going to buy an Xbox without games. What are people going to do, run Tux on an Xbox? : phreakin911
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    Maybe if Microsoft had designed their system better, they wouldn't have this problem. Both Nintendo and ... : Smackrabbit
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      Ya, but the difference is that nobody is TRYING to do all of this with a Gamecube or PS2. It comes down t... : phreakin911
      • beg your pardon? http://www.ps2linux.com (linux) http://linuxdc.sourceforge.net (dreamcast) They d... : loco3kgt
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      they dont have HDs. that argument is weak. : ultramega
      • ok, so why is the argument weak? Read the 2nd part of my post. Or they do it because the Xbox is capa : phreakin911
    • uh im sure they planned on it like this. in order for a MS consoel to sell the rfirst time they HAD to b... : ease_one
  • thats a laughable statement. they, as a product provider, set out a product for consuption; you, as the c... : Antilles_Prime
  • dude, I disagree with that. if someone wants to buy an xbox and use it as a doorstop (for a huge door), ... : mattleexbox
• ooOOoo but your average PC costs at least 500$, if not more. The xbox can be got for 200 : moshman
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  You _CAN_ run emulators on the XBox (as recently as a few hours ago, I was playing Supermario World). ... : timm
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    too bad theres no good games besides halo 2 coming out for it : Shadore66
    • check out Strident. i cant wait for that game. and splinter cell is worth the price of the console. : Ukrainian Thunder
    • Yager? Shenmue 3? Midtown Madness 3? Most of the Live enabled games coming out should be a great laugh. : moshman
• http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=7107289 http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=7109037 : diehlr

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• 1 - Sooner or later 2 - Yes, with a mod chip : phreakin911

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• Dreamcast was easy.. the trick is that X-Box games have the "key" embedded, i guess they use a system sim... : -TKF-

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  Just like they've shut down all mod chip manufacturers right? /sarcasm : tavis
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    The reason they haven't gone after most mod chip manufacturers is because they aren't in the US. It is k... : pyrogen
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      If it came right back up, they didn't quite succeed, did they? : Zibro
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        The point wasn't to take down isonews, it was to get the guy that was selling the modchips. In that way,... : pyrogen
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          yea, now all those bastards have to type a Z at the end instead of the far more standard, and comofrtable... : esky
          • Did you even read my post? : pyrogen

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  Ah I remember that one. Was this from microsoft ? : larcho
  • I think it turned out to be from the dude who did Lindows. I think. : Xak Malice
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  not quite because of the technicality of requiring someone to purchase one of the "bugged" games. the ... : Steve Gibson
  • He will find an excuse anyway. : larcho