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  UT3 wasn't GFWL and launched after Gears PC. : pyide
  • You can't speak sense to the archvile, he just has to bitch about Microsoft or Activision once a day or h... : ArcKnight
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    UT3 was worse: it was GameSpy. : the archvile
    • yuck : shirif
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      This is a totally different game though. Even though we all hate Gamespy, UT3 was about dedicated servers... : pyide
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        Not having coop for the SP story is not the optimal road for that game. : shirif
        • Supposedly you can play all or most of the SP levels in coop. Will you really be upset if you miss the ST... : pyide
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        What if I don't want to use GFWL instead? This customer service experience doesn't look fun: http://www.... : the archvile
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          I'm with you on this GFWL hate-wagon. : shirif
          • I'd be the first to say GFWL is unnecessary and needs to go away but at the same time I have no reason to... : pyide
      • It makes me sad because those weapons beg for DM...I mean DM with that stuff would be amazing IMHO. : Vorlonesque
  • I speculate that was because it was a sequel and therefore they didn't want to alienate old customers. Wi... : Wisp!
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  How is Epic involved with this game? Like, what's their role in the whole thing? : roushimsx
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    They bought People Can Fly. Probably are funding the game and technical support on the UT3 engine. : shirif
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      Awesome to hear that PCF got a good home. I love it when those little euro houses succeed like that :D ... : roushimsx
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        Yes. I liked Unreal 2 and Return to Na Pali. :( : shirif
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          Those two were actually made by Legend Entertainment, who were shut down by Atari in January 2004. : the archvile
          • Thanks :) Just read some more on twiki, poor Legend had some momentum to them :( Regarding DE, I must b... : shirif
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      Cliff Bleszinski is also the "design director" on it. : the archvile
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        "Guys we should put the word 'fuck' in here to make it edgy!" : roushimsx
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          Actually he's the guy that said "You can kick dudes? Totally need giant cactus to shank'em on". That bein... : locater16
          • Gears 2 was a good game. : shirif
          • horde mode was great, and probably had a hand in the survival modes in l4d and the zombie modes in waw : synapse19
• Some quotes from the source article: http://www.oxm.co.uk/article.php?id=24946 We knew we wanted an ov : the archvile
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  Is Bulletstorm confirmed to be a GFWL title? I hadn't heard that. : rudds
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    http://news.bigdownload.com/2010/12/23/bulletstorm-limited-edition-revealed-games-for-windows-live-sup/ : pyide
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      Man, I know a bunch of you guys hate GWFL and I admit it's a minor inconvenience, but the way I see it I get to play the best-looking version of Bulletstorm with a mouse and keyboard, and get achievements for it. Sweet.

      Jan 07, 2011 7:43pm PST
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      Man, I know a bunch of you guys hate GWFL and I admit it's a minor inconvenience, but the way I see it I : rudds
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        It's more important that the game boots without hassle and has a working save system than to have CHEEVOS... : SpaecKow
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          boots? shit, the game is all about boots. : roushimsx
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            are cheevos boots? heh! : SpaecKow
            • oh meh nvm : SpaecKow
        • agreed; I don't play games for cheevos, trying to S-rank every damn game. I play games to have interesti... : the archvile
      • I just wish Epic would use steamworks.. Don't really care anymore about achievements. : razlebol
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        Steam could do achievements too :) : Godhatesfatpeople
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          Yeah but they don't add to your k-rad xbox live gamerscore : SpaecKow
          • Whenever someone IRL asks me "what my gamerscore is" I murder them...with my penis...in the eye socket. ... : Vorlonesque
      • I wouldn't have any problem with GFWL if it just worked. Every GFWL game that I've bought has had issues,... : PointlesS76
      • The bullshit you guys are willing to put up with for achievements is pathetic :( : AgentPothead
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        The Shack PC crew doesn't care for cheevos. Except for MoreVespeneGas, but he's special. My issue is t... : LoioshDwaggie
        • It seems that half the time, the mouse won't work on the GFWL overlay. : shirif
      • If GFWL worked as consistently as Steam, I wouldn't have a problem using it. It doesn't, though. : Durajim
      • GFWL is really hit or miss. And it definitely depends on the game. DoW2, GFWL works most of the time as i... : Dschinghis Khan
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    GFWL = deal killer : dognose
    • Games For Weepy Losers, more like it. (don't give this a lol, dognose. I don't want to give you the im... : ArB
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  I'm glad it's not a cover based game. Fuck them. : freshyk
  • seriously : shirif
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    What i don't understand is why cover mechanics need to exist in shooters. I have been using cover since t... : chrisschutz
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      I will now reveal to you why this mechanic exists. It is incredible. I will tell you, but if you become a... : SpaecKow
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        I would think Halo and CoD are evidence that people can crouch and strafe. : chrisschutz
        • I would think that too, but check out some early interviews Cliffy did before release of GoW1. He talks a... : SpaecKow
      • They think this is fun gameplay: http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:NG2_28.jpg : the archvile
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        Vegas 2 is awesome!!! : Rice-Rocketeer
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          Vegas has the least shitty cover system. I only played Vegas 1 but it was the least obnoxious. It was sti... : SpaecKow
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            Vegas 2's is even more refined. I find other cover systems to be pretty shitty to be honest, but Vegas : Rice-Rocketeer
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              Deus Ex Human Revolution has a cover system, but in one of the interviews they were like "heh, yeah, we g... : SpaecKow
              • They certainly know how to present it well in interviews and videos. I'm so hyped for it. If it hurts ... : Rice-Rocketeer
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        Strafing is easier on a console tbh. Circle strafe is just pushing the two sticks in opposite directions... : batkiwi
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          You ever seen someone play their first FPS? It's tragic. I actually understand their concerns. : SpaecKow
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            Developing for consumers instead of making their own games is why the PC gaming golden era died. : Marrbe
            • Yet profits increased...they won. : kingdepork
    • to regen your health, duh. : devpaul
    • I don't have a problem with cover systems in concept, though in practice a lot of them are really bad. ev : DeBurgo
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      I thought Killzone 2's cover system was pretty decent. Even though it was pretty clunky, it had the right... : PointlesS76
      • Yes, I really enjoyed the mechanics and combat in KZ2. : Dave-A
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      It's a way to allow you to make more complicated moves that can't map directly to controls. If you think ... : Dave-A
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        this is why im excited about Breach : boring gegtik
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          You're excited about a game?! : Dave-A
          • the last game i was excited about was epic mickey =\ : boring gegtik
      • This is the answer. Cover is cool, however since Gear's we're seeing developers rely on it too heavily. ... : -JLN-
      • Yep. I think games should have cover but it should be as common as prone or crouch. They just need not to... : razlebol
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        I also thought Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway had a nice cover system, too. Also. As well. : Dschinghis Khan
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          Indeed, that came to mind when I saw this topic : Dave-A
          • I think for Bulletstorm it would have been cool if it had a cover system but it was optional. That way yo... : Dschinghis Khan
      • Track-IR led to some interesting cover stuff in ARMA I understand. : Vorlonesque
• Ug, thang god it's not. I can't express how much I prefer fps to third person, unless it's a game like to... : Dynotaku
• Thank god they got hit by a bout of creative energy! : enyakk
• I'm bummed it doesn't have DM. I think DM in that game could have been amazing. Especially if they had ... : Vorlonesque