No Hard Drive? No Halo: Reach Online Co-op or Firefight for You [Updated]

That's okay. I can't play Halo: Reach because there's no mouse connected. :D

man i am so glad i decided to sit this console generation out... one of the few advantages consoles had over pcs was that you could just go to the store, grab the hardware, and be sure that all the games for that hardware would just work, no worrying about configurations or drivers or what have you... but this generation seems dead set on negating that advantage.

hopefully next time around, theres only one configuration to buy and this sort of thing is a non-issue... if not, ill probably sit out that generation as well...

Hahahahaha, imagine all those gamers now looking for those Slim hard drives that were just released a couple of weeks ago. They knew you'd need one, baby!

Did you think you were going to save yourselves some cash for that Halo statue? Well, think again, buddy boy! Fork over $30 extra bucks for the combined total of that new Slim arcade plus the cost of a hard drive, if you can find one. At least your console's matte, right?

Microsoft's always thinking outside the box. First, they release a console with no QA of which, more than a third failed within the first year (or two). Then they released devices with power cables that failed and caused the units to burn up (360 controller, plus several Xbox 1's did it). They used the cheapest disc drive they could find that would often fail with DDE within a year of purchase.

They extend your warranty on only one problem while other problems are killing 360's left and right.

THEN they do US the consumer a favor by releasing a 360 that swipes everything great about the PS3 (except the slot blu-ray drive) and has the gall to demand we pay them ANOTHER $300. Which we do in large numbers.

Then they announce an arcade unit with a free 4gb space to lure in all the stragglers who are still not convinced by the revised "360 As It Should Always Have Been" and a revised controller that should have been included with the revised console, but wasn't so they could then MILK you for even more money by making you buy both the controller AND the play 'n charge that no one wants.

Then they raise the price of Xbox Live, but announce a wave of sales to boost Live sales for the next two months, then milk everyone for another $10 a year. And make it so Halo Reach requires you go buy that $130 hd you didn't think you'd need after the new arcade had 4gb flash. Milking you again.

Hahahaha, Microsoft, I tip my hat to you. It really is brilliant. You lure 'em in with the, "We're cheaper, our console's $200" and then you staple on the milking nozzle and milk 'em till they're dry and bleeding.

Combine this with a thread blowing up in the Bungie forums about "disc unreadable errors" even with the game installed to the hard drive and you really have a problem. Bungie, we expected better of you...

Would using an external hd as storage correct this for people or does it "need" to be an actual 360 drive?

This is one of the reason why I bought the 299 xbox360. The arcade is cheap but once you buy a hard drive you are paying more then if you bought the 299 xbox 360.

The back of the Halo: Reach box declares that "storage requirements are subject to change," and that "some features and downloads require additional storage, hardware, and/or fees."

This probably just means that Microsoft doesn't have to do any footwork anymore for technical requirements, since they can just shove a universally-acceptable phrase on the back of the box. It's sad that technical requirements sections on games are getting closer and closer to the legalese of end-user license agreement clauses.

Ofcourse , Microsoft has to make a big rip off with the last Halo game ,

Bungie is no more under microsoft control you know. But halo is Microsoft property. soo , not the last after all.

It's amazing how much Sony and MS got right for each of their consoles, and how much each of them screwed up on different points.

This is one of Microsoft's most dismal failures on the 360: they should never have released a version without a hard drive.

It makes a nightmare for the developers (who either can't rely on the thing being there to make use of it, or have to do shit like this that screws their customers) and the users as well, many of whom aren't going to realize until it's too late that some games just won't work completely on the console they were allegedly made for.

Microsoft's hard drive/storage strategy with the 360 is one of the dumbest things they've ever done. Don't tell me that it makes them a lot of money. If you do some simple math it becomes apparent that they would need a huge chunk of their install base to buy a hard drive upgrade to net Microsoft any real money, and that is just not going to happen. The arcade model should have shipped with a hard drive.

You'd think Microsoft would get its act together, instead of heavily pushing an upcoming Kinect bundle that won't even properly play Microsoft's flagship first-party title.