Morning Discussion: Holiday Edition

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  Extremely surprised - wonder how many will not have dust on them in 3 months. : abrasion
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    This is a bad troll, even for you. : ieGod
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      It's not a troll, do you know what the definition of a troll actually is? It's an opinion - it may look... : abrasion
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        Have you used one? Because I have, and they're pretty fucking rad. : ieGod
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          I don't have any interest in the slightest in the ipad. I own a very nice PC, I have a very good laptop ... : abrasion
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            At least try it, I was surprised by how neat it is. It's lighter, more easily transported, and more acces... : ieGod
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              I literally don't see a use for anything which does that. Mind you I don't want or need a handheld gamin... : abrasion
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                Then get out of this thread because you don't know WTF. God i HATE you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ... : multisync
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                  haha multisync what's up dudde? : abrasion
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                    KILL URSELF PLZ : multisync
                    • You know if we hung out, we'd be like best J/O buds man, no gay stuff mind you. : abrasion
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                #1 Best use: Toilet things. : ieGod
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                  Where do you think half my iphone latestchatty posts are from :( : abrasion
                  • Abrasion is taking a dump again? What's wrong with his bowels? : .sticks.
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            If you don't have the slightest interest why are you in this thread? : JMro
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              So what's the JMro sanction response to the following Over 2 million iPads sold in 60 days. http://9to5 : abrasion
              • It must be made out of magnets, because it's pure magic! : Modulus
        • I haven't used my laptop now in over 60 days. Only use my PC to play EVE : m0rfus
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        I dunno, John C. Dvorak says the same shit and everybody considers him a troll. : heartsauce
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          Seriously, shacknews members really, really need to investigate the definition - because much like the wo... : abrasion
          • It's a black fly in your Chardonnay. : afty04
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            I'm pretty sure most of us are clear on the definition seeing as how this is the internet and all. "..... : heartsauce
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              The term troll as per mod definitions (several years ago) was specifically in relation to users hit and running the shack with an opposing opinion and no real valid comments to back it up, be it hit and run style or just repetitive without any obvious effort.
              
              I've been accused of trolling many times, the few times I would agree with it is when I'm pulling a Garnett to simply spur a conversation and continue debate, not to continue fights but to show an opposing viewpoint that I myself may not even believe. - I would say that 'lying' for the sake of discussion would be trolling.
              
              This however, I completely believe and continue to be shocked, it's really not hard - I don't understand the device, I don't know how it's popular and I don't 'get it' in the slightest. Good for apple thus far but it baffles me so much, hence I question how long until dust settles on it, much like the Wii.
              
              Give it a few months, we'll see.

              May 31, 2010 7:13am PDT
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              The term troll as per mod definitions (several years ago) was specifically in relation to users hit and r... : abrasion
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                That makes sense. Hit and running is the WORST on here, whether there's an opposing opinion or not. I ... : heartsauce
                • That thread annoyed me heaps, so much more detail was required. It was pretty cheap :/ : abrasion
          • I agree with you abrasion. I guess its just easier to label someone a troll if they have an opinion you d... : KxRook
  • The good thing is the second-hand market will be awesome in 3-6 months. That's when I'll get mine :) : dumb.
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    this is about the iPad, not the Wii : Maarten Goldstein
    • This Maarten I can agree with :( : abrasion
    • I've got more wii hardware under my couch than I care to admit. Wife made me buy that damn wii fit and t... : Cubictoast
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    I'm using mine daily, even for stupid shit. It's a portable screen, it has many uses still being discover... : askedrelic
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      Use #273: Makes a great tray for serving drinks to party guests : dumb.
      • I just got a mental picture of R2D2 serving drinks for jaba on an Ipad. It's still early, sorry. ... : sheepraper
      • http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs328.ash1/28569_389590176932_674036932_4574342_7340243_n.jpg : marmite
      • I saw one used at a wine bar last week during wine tasting. They were using it to show off tasting notes ... : Alco23
  • not many : jonin
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    Isn't this an adjustment of your old position that it wouldn't sell at all? : derelict515
    • I don't think I said that - I've also still got 4 weeks left on my original prediction - although I could... : abrasion
  • 2 months in and I still use mine all the time. : pyrogen
  • Oh look, another one of these posts. : boarder2
  • Arcane and I are talking of buying a second. They are just so useful for so much. : re-verse
• and none of those it's mine :( : ErneX
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  After being a 17-year Apple fan, they have convinced me that the ipad is the cheapest computer I can buy ... : kramweil
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    I still thing it should be cheaper. : umegastar
    • they should pay US to use it, right!? : multisync
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      0_O - How much cheaper? : Durajim
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        $299.99 : geneshifter
        • This would actually be a nice starting price for it. I guarantee they'd have sold 4 million iPads at that... : dumb.
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          http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/apr2010/tc2010046_788280.htm : Durajim
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            Apple is making one hell of a profit, but that's no new news there. They always overprice their stuff. : CrustaR
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              Can you point to a similar device that proves it's overpriced? A better point is that no one has a retail... : derelict515
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                A standard PC that contains the same components is about $1k less than an Apple computer. : CrustaR
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                  in this thread: we talk about the iPad. Try again. : derelict515
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                    I provided you with the example. I'm done with you. : CrustaR
                    • It's a thread about the iPad, that's specifically what I asked about it. I'm done with you lol. : derelict515
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                      Computer != iPad crustar. Comeon now. : askedrelic
                      • Oh, yeah, well the article linked above already proved my prior point. I assumed he wanted additional ex... : CrustaR
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                      no, you didnt. : klearlyunseen
                      • Here you go: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23083133#itemanchor_23083133 : CrustaR
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                  Yea I regret my imac purchase every day i'm stuck with stupid OSX. : packav
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                    Is it too old to install Windows on? : dumb.
                    • No I just haven't gotten around to buying Win7 ahah. I get yelled at by the L4D players for not having d... : packav
                  • Can I have it? : Mmmmmoo
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                  Here we go again. Why can't this ever end? Can anyone start a thread commenting on something regarding Ap... : zuga
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                    Perhaps the topic is brought up so many times because there is some truth to it. : CrustaR
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                      Not necessarily, but it's really not worth arguing. : zuga
                      • You're right. I wasn't really expecting so many replies to my original post. I'd rather we just forget ... : CrustaR
          • Everyone's devices in the portable arena has similar profit margins. Research In Motion, HTC, Palm, every... : Serpico74
        • That sounds much more logical : abrasion
  • 13" 2.4 GHZ Macbook is only $924 shipped on Amazon right now, bought one earlier this week instead of an ... : timaste
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  I have to buy 4 as gifts; I strongly object, no one gives a fuck. : massdev
  • why do you have to buy any gifts? it seems someone doesn't understand gifts .. : ibrokn
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  There is that fucking word again, MAGIC. Fuck you, Steve Jobs and fuck the word magic. Seriously. I lo... : Durajim
  • Its just the evolution of the cult into formalized religion. Right now we have magic, its pagan, but soon... : massdev
  • Go to "Watch the ipad video" for ultra rage then: http://www.apple.com/ipad/ : freshyk
  • Look at that $500 in your wallet. Now look at iPad. Now, back at your wallet. *poof* it's gone...magic! : emcea
• I believe it, every non techincal person who my wife shows hers to, they all want one now. And this is wh... : NukemFornever
• Just ordered one this weekend. I'm a bit sad they don't have them in stores, so I'll have to wait. I b... : Sturm08
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  I saw one for the first time today (they only just came out in the UK) and I was surprised it was much sm... : marmite
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    Also what's the difference between the normal and 3G model? Specifically why is the 3G one £100 more? : marmite
    • the other one is wifi only, so no internet on the go except for hotspots : Maarten Goldstein
    • Because you can use it on a 3G network just like a phone (data only) and aren't tethered to wifi : multisync
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      GPS in the 3G model, too. : Durajim
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        Only assisted GPS. Not as good as the real deal. : Lone Swordsman
        • Assisted is fine. Means it uses the cell chip to get a quick fix on the tower then waits for the gps chip... : GeneralTragg
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          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS : vigilante
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            Huh, I always thought assisted systems had worse accuracy. : Lone Swordsman
            • That really depends on the gps chip, phones are typically a but worse then a dedicated gps device due to ... : GeneralTragg
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      Wow, so it's just the 3G chip costing £100. I can't see that being worth it at all. I mean I barely ev... : marmite
      • For me it isn't worth it. Everywhere I use an iPad (home, stages, airplanes, hotels) have Wifi. My phone ... : Serpico74
      • I just tether it. : edgewise
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    marmite, don't hold your breath, the likelihood of a price drop before the next revision is incredibly un... : Durajim
    • I was thinking it'd be smaller, too. I also find it a bit too heavy to use as an eReader. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      The price in the UK is only $40 or so over the USA price before taxes are accounted for. : Toraz Chryx
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        I think the big difference is that it seems fairly common to pay for an iPhone in the US whereas almost e... : marmite
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          its a bit unfair to compare something that is discounted in price but also includes a 2year contract in t... : disembodied potato
          • I completely agree however I think subconsciously that's what I was doing which is why I was so shocked a... : marmite
• i'd get one, but i can't think of a use for it right now. maybe after a price drop or a version 2.0. : crypt420
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  Curious: why still so much hate for this thing? It feels like the Shackers that have gotten one (myself ... : m0rfus
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    How quickly and easily can you pull up a power point document from the corporation general G: or whatever... : abrasion
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      Pretty quick from the sharepoint site where documents are stored. Who uses a G drive? What is this, 1989? : rosewood
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        Almost every business I know of uses drive letters still, since document management applications are an a... : abrasion
        • Huh? Why do you think they are an abomination? I know of many good ones. Documentum. MS Sharepoint. ... : CRasterImage
      • You're kidding, right? Drive letters are still a very common practice. : Halen
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    I had one, I didn't use it so we gave it to my girlfriends mom. People are annoyed because the Apple h... : MagicWishMonkey
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      That doesnt explain the hate for the device though, only hate for fanboys. : klearlyunseen
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        does anyone really hate on it beyond making fun of its obvious shortcomings? actually that's kind of the... : Hoax
        • Funny how nobody commented about the article also pointing out things in the other direction. Everybody j... : BlackCat9
  • Haters be hatin' : Goto10
  • I'm sure I could find a use for it and if I had a shit ton more disposable income I would probably buy on... : jenisthebest
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    People don't hate the iPad so much as they hate the Apple philosophies in operation with it. The device... : CRasterImage
    • ^^ This. I think that when a company, no matter who is it, makes a great product, you should step back an... : m0rfus
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  Google Docs}r Does Google Spreadsheet work on the iPad? : dodob
  • not well, no : boarder2
  • You can edit cells and do stuff. I haven't tested it extensively, but it "works". I can say that much. : SqueegyTBS
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  that brand is immune to any market or economic conditions. sales are guaranteed. : Downforce
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    Spending $600 on a tablet ain't shit when you're living in your parents basement. : MagicWishMonkey
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      naw, that's linux users. hahaha. come on man, this is APPLE here. : Downforce
      • Parents' loft, then. : FirstPersonCooter
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      It's only like $120 lattes from Starbucks. 2 months worth. : edgewise
      • - $ : edgewise
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  I think the iPad's neat. I'd get one if it had 3G/4G data-only plans, and was pocket-size. If I am okay... : aasyranth
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    Wouldn't that be an iPhone? : GeneralTragg
    • Pretty much. I don't need a voice plan, though. I use phones for less than five minutes a month, and I u... : aasyranth
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    it's a lot lighter than even a thin laptop. : xxiv
    • Yeah, I've handled one. I just don't like carrying things with me (except for pocket fodder). : aasyranth
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  I've seen two so far. Rather surprised I havent seen more in use. : Chod
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    i imagine most people just use them at home : Maarten Goldstein
    • thats my plan : klearlyunseen
    • Yeah and at work, Or on the road (as a passenger). It would be weird taking it 'out' though. : re-verse
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  It's a great device but if you don't travel or read heavily, I see no use for it. I sold mine about a mo... : jingletard
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    a computer in every room? what is your electricity bill like? : d0pamine
    • Pretty horrible. Couple that fact with a gigantic panasonic plasma & the A/C going non stop all summer, ... : jingletard
• It's interesting to see this hit the news just as the Evo's press push started. Gotta wonder. ;) : timaste
• damn it, damn it, damn it, damn it, DAMN IT! i'm not buying one! stop tempting me! i'm holding out for... : Korban
• It's a pretty slick device. Are there any Android tablets due out soon? I want to have something to compa... : dmason
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  I'm probably the only one that has returned the iPad. I had a 3G version and it was OK but simply not go... : geneshifter
  • I returned mine : pancake humper
• Were all of them magical? : Beady
• thats a lot of heavy days : mrtony
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  I'd probably get one if it could run Windows and multitask, I'd have a good use for it then. : sanchez
  • Ours multitasks just fine, and I can vnc to my desktop if I need it. : re-verse
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    have fun installing drivers with only a touchscreen! : Postal
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      Isn't the idea here that people--the mainstream I'm-really-tired-of-fucking-around-with-computer-BS-and-j... : Attica Blue
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        I don't know/care what the average mainstream consumer wants, I'm just stating what features I need for i... : sanchez
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          I was replying to Postal. But to your point, I'm only saying that it looks like Apple will only grant suc... : Attica Blue
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            They wont go there for a number of reasons, still would be nice to be able to put another OS on there. I ... : sanchez
            • Someone managed to get Android working on an iPhone. It'd be cool if they got it going on an ipad as well... : Mmmmmoo
        • What would you use a tablet with a 10" screen for? : Serpico74
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      I don't see why a touchscreen would be much harder to do it with than a mouse. Ignoring of course the fac... : derelict515
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        Ya, that was a weird reply from Postal. : CRasterImage
        • par for the course : derelict515
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  I'm going to invest in an iPad within the next month. : GamerFanatic
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    given apple product resale value, invest isn't really the right word. : NexusOne
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      http://www.kyleconroy.com/apple-stock.php : Slowtreme
      • whose talking about stock? : NexusOne
    • Its usually way higher then other electronics : GeneralTragg
    • This post is a bit backwards, half the reason I own an iPhone is the resale value is so fucking good : abrasion
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  Only 1 million unique users, they all wanted multi-tasking. : TheNiXXeD
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    Apple is adding it as a free OS update in a few months. So I doubt that is true at all, but thank you for... : ovrlrd
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      Cool, how can I join the Apple Defense Force ? : Sgt_Boomstick
      • Buy an iPad. : Mmmmmoo
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      hahha, what. : aggressor
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        iPhone OS4 adds multitasking and comes to iPads a few months later for free : derelict515
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          I already know that but his response is hilarious, but thank you for your intelligent inside into iPhone ... : aggressor
          • No kidding. I love my iphone, but god damn the Apple apologists are out in full force today and its getti... : Sgt_Boomstick
  • I lol'd. :( : Mmmmmoo
• I'm using mine every day for Shacking, reading, web browsing, watching Netflix or videos off my NAS, etc.... : BlackCat9
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  I tried out the ipad at the apple store, it looks like it would be really nice for iBooks except there ar... : jayares
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    I've bought and read a few books from the Amazon store which I feel is superior right now since there's a... : Barnahog
    • Yea kindle app is great for that. 4.0 is adding it for iPhone. : GeneralTragg
• I use mine all the time, more than my desktop or laptop. At home neither my desktop or laptop gets used ... : manlyman