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• it's like another browser toolbar!!!! more is ALWAYS better!!!!!!!!!!!!! : Downforce
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  Just noticed that. Good lord...that's hideous. : ColoradoCNC
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    Refresh : OverloadUT
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      I still see it : riptyde
      • But it's not hideous. Only the first couple versions up were. Now it fits pretty cleanly. : OverloadUT
  • I don't think it is that bad at all. They own the place, they can have a small bar at the top. It is ... : bombay
  • Still doesn't fit with the overall look of the site, but much better. It would look bettr at the bottom, ... : ColoradoCNC
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  at least it doesn't "stick" to the top of your browser : Demius
  • True. : dmason
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    nuke please before they work out they could do that : CoRDS
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      position: fixed : ThomW
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        update your lol script so it does this automatically! : c0bra
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          If they made it position: fixed I would write a script to undo that, but I'm not going to force that horr... : ThomW
          • I guess I overestimated your hate, Thomw :( : c0bra
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    at least it doesnt scroll WITH you as you read : m0rfus
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      That's exactly what he said : OverloadUT
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        yeah but, at least when you scroll down the page it doesn't follow you. : yacoub35
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          i mean really, it's not like the bar is stalking you : m0rfus
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            it stole my lunch money :( : RobFlinn
            • like the Gin Blossoms, it'll Follow You Down? : yacoub35
        • that would be even worse. : azenmaster
  • ugh yah that would be horrid! : Shadowdane
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  They also added a GameFly media graphic to the footer. : DrWaffles
  • I don't mind the footer at all; totally fits in with whats down there (and nobody looks there anyway). T... : Agrona
  • There's a footer? : Whistler77
• this is worse than the holocaust having sex with 9/11 : gmd
• I miss the small links. I feel like I'm browsing gamespy in 1999. : Amnesty_intl2
• I'm guessing it will be minutes, not hours, until a greasemonkey script comes out to get rid of them. : re-verse
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  Shacklol links isn't even supposed to be there anyway :P : RikiTiki2
  • I know but if that link can be put there, so can the Gamefly links. : prime8
• Well, they should remove the shacknews | shackvideo | fileshack one, because it is redundant. : kaddar0
• it will make the websites look uniform for all their other websites.. oh god it'll be like ign/gamespy : aldraek
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  Link to popcornpopper.com would be nice, they should buy that company : dognose
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    note to self: need to pickup a whirley pop : vynn
    • I got one last year for Xmas I love it. : Shadowdane
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  ABP. EOT. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • test: using System; using System.Collections.Generic; using System.Linq; using System.Text; name : Ride-My-Rocket
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  is this the sort of thing that can be grease monkeyed out? it's not like i'll ever visit any of those ot... : valael
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    Does it really bother you so much that you'd like the page to take longer to load just to get rid of it? : OverloadUT
    • Do you use the lol script? if so it's 1 line of code. not really important tho. : mwasher
  • Just make a custom stylesheet and put this in it: #gfm_top_bar { display: none; }}}/ And use stylish ... : ysbreker
• It doesn't bother me. : SigmaDraconis
• Fire up the greasemonkies! : Sailor of Fortune
• Shacknews should be before CheatFreak... : dignan
• Shacknews, Shackvideo and Fileshack brings in ad revenue to GameFly. Does Shack[lol] bring in ad reven... : Maddog_Delphi97
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  The Shack[lol] link is added by the Greasemonkey script : Arctic Fox
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    I know, just saying the Gamefly links should be stuck there as well. : prime8
    • I'd almost argue for the removal of those Shack* links -- they're redundant at this point. I guess I ... : ThomW
• The bar itself doesn't bother me, but the way it masks the shack/fileshack/shackvideo links is pretty ann... : boarder2

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  need some sample pics to see what the big deal is. : Ellissd
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    a couple on this page: http://www.dcresource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43061&page=2 : sparkly
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      http://www.flickr.com/photos/ljesmith/3589144466/sizes/o/ you can see the tripod/photoghraphers legs : sparkly
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        $40,500 for that is absurd. Those pictures are garbage. : Ellissd
        • This is a rare instance in which the cost may have more to do with the manufacturing cost than the useful... : fishbone
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        That's a lot to pay for what seems like a novelty picture style at best. : riptyde
        • It's instant art! As is apply Photoshop filters to the same effect. : Alice O'Connor
      • You could shoot a really sweet skateboard video with that. : rock elf
  • There are a couple of shots in here http://images.google.com/images?q=6mm+nikon+images&oe=utf-8&rls=or... : trevis
  • http://www.nearfield.com/~dan/photo/wide/fish/index.htm http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/736868/1 ... : aethyr
• Great googly moogly! : trevis
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  really not impressed http://imaging.nikon.com/products/imaging/technology/nikkor/img/n06-p26al.jpg : drucifer
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    Not impressed that they couldnt spell Nikon properly in the description. : bolneze
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      Nikkor is a company that makes Nikon lenses. :x : mlev
      • How unfortunate for me -_- : bolneze
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  That would go nice with a 1200mm 5.6L USM; too bad they're different systems http://www.bhphotovideo.c... : the archvile
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    haha that thing is awesome. I was just looking around on ebay for Non-AI nikon lenses because my 35mm cam... : sparkly
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      what camera did you get, sparkly? i think you mentioned it at some point but i don't remember : Herman Toothrot
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        The Nikon FT2 -- it's amazing how all this stuff works mechanically. I do have a light meter in there, bu... : sparkly
        • I ended up getting it with those 3 lenses for $45 too, which is a steal. I just had to wait 5 weeks to ge... : sparkly
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          Oh, you got an old one; nice. Back when I started getting into photography, this was my starter camera... : the archvile
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            I've never actually owned a 35mm camera! I've got the Yashica-D and Holga medium format, but I just decid... : sparkly
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              i think my favorite thing about the fm2 i bought is the focus screen, i wish i had a manual focus screen ... : Herman Toothrot
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                It really is a brilliant way to focus. I wouldn't mind having a similar focusing screen on my d300 : sparkly
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                  have you seen these? http://www.katzeyeoptics.com/item--Nikon-D300-Focusing-Screen--prod_D300.html : Herman Toothrot
                  • i briefly debated getting one for my rebel but then decided i should probably pay more attention to just ... : Herman Toothrot
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                    I had no idea that existed :O Very interesting! : sparkly
                    • Yup; I can even get focusing screens for my 5D Mark II and EOS 3. : the archvile
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          yeah, i wanted a manual camera even tho i'm a film pussy and bought an FM2 off ebay, i like it a lot and ... : Herman Toothrot
          • oh, and mine came with the 50mm f/1.4 lens, i don't know anything else about the lens unfortunately but i... : Herman Toothrot
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        If he means 35mm film, there's not much left new from Canon / Nikon aside from the Canon EOS 1V, the Niko... : the archvile
        • Nikon FT2, manufactured from 1975 to 1977 : sparkly
  • That's like stalker heaven. : dravalen
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  Good lord. 6mm! : deskill
  • Is that ah "Good lord its bigger than my dick" or is it a "Good lord its bigger than my dick". : posito
• I can't believe theres more than one of these out there. : DooBall
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  I hate fisheye pictures :( all of them. : Omning
  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtgt/202405642/ : DooBall
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    what about this? not quite fisheye but a similar effect and i think it's pretty cool http://www.flickr.co... : Herman Toothrot
    • That one isn't bad but I looked at the original too and it gave me vertigo : Omning

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  360 if you want to play online. : WhatIsThisFor
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    Why? Sorry to open this can of worms but I play online with PC all the time and it's fine. The odd laggy ... : node
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      I'd rather not deal with people using hacks on the PC. I just want to play the game and know that nobody... : WhatIsThisFor
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        People cheat on the xbox as well. : silent prophet
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          How? I've never seen it in action and I've never seen a way to do it. I've never seen any Youtube videos... : WhatIsThisFor
          • many people see cheating and glitching as the same thing. There are plenty of GLITCHES in the 360 vers... : maulla
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            Controller Mods and lag switches for the console kiddies. : dedgecko
            • Not the same thing as aimbots and wallhacks. : WhatIsThisFor
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              controller mods are a non-issue in MW2. I am already 80 hours in and have not seen one. I havent seen ... : maulla
              • I've seen them a few times in Halo 3 / Gears of War 1, but those are the only games that I've spent a con... : dedgecko
        • Not as bad as they do on PC. AFAIK, no wall hacks / aimbots exist for any of the consoles. The biggest ch... : jingletard
        • i havent seen any yet. i've also only seen one person using the javelin exploit this weekend. : synapse19
      • cheaters are so few and far between that i wouldn't even call that an issue. maybe i've just been lucky. : pandastrong
      • I'm at almost 50 and have never seen a cheater. I play mostly TDM and HQ Pro. Have no reservations about ... : royalally
      • That's fair, but I haven't noticed any yet. Only up to maybe 10 hours play though. : node
• I'm playing it on PC in central Europe, have not seen cheaters afaik and latency is mostly okay. So.. I'm... : yobock
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  360 for $42 http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2-for-Xbox-360/product/54... : FormerHPB
  • out of stock : vynn
• you are going to run into it on both ends, but there are significantly less problems on 360. with PC t... : maulla
• I play both. I have more fun playing 360 then I do PC, can't put my finger on it. : freakynipples69
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  Which platform are you more comfortable with? Chose that one. : Fyunch Click
  • Pretty much this. The game is fine in both instances provided you are comfortable with the higher pings o... : LoioshDwaggie
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  There are cheaters on the PC, but its way overblown. I've put in about 15 hours so far and I've only see... : pandastrong
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    on the 360 you could have chosen to avoid playing with the player the first time you ran into him :P : dantastic
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      of course. all i had to do was quit and find a few server, which took like 10 seconds. : pandastrong
      • but you played against the guy again : dantastic
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        He's saying you can flag players with bad rep and it won't match you with them again. : h o s t i l e
        • i know exactly what he is saying. : pandastrong
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    you moved to the PC version? :( I'm waiting for a steam sale and I'm gonna snag it on PC as well. Wont... : maulla
    • I bought it on PC to play with my roommate. I kept the 360 version to play with you guys, which I need t... : pandastrong
• I have it on PC in the States, and it is perfectly fine online. You used to see cheaters occasionally, b... : TheVietSpecial
• go PC if controls are even the least bit important to you : vynn
• PC, closing in on 20 hours and having a blast. : dael
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  don't buy either, pick up left4dead2 its a better game : stgdz
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    Already got it ;-) Add me to your friends list if you want to play: rheroux : rheroux
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      then I would suggest not getting Modern Warfare 2, its not worth 60 bucks. Play left4dead2 until bad com... : stgdz
      • Even though I was gifted MW2, I'd agree with this statement. It's just MW again -dedicated. BC is refresh... : LoioshDwaggie
      • you kill me. : maulla
• Seriously go for PC. : posito
• Played COD games on the PC and 360, I seem to enjoy the game more on the 360. : mastermike569
• PC... 103 hours logged to date, at Prestige (1) lvl 58 and having a blast. Cheaters are few and far be... : dedgecko
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  skip it. Theres a bunch of knifing bastards up in there. : ultramega
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    the akimbo shotguns are way more annoying than knifers : pandastrong
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      it makes up for it when you shoot them in the face. : dael
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        absolutely. i still get the most satisfaction out of killing people using riot shields. : pandastrong
        • haha - I was having too much fun with that thing... Riot Shield a shotty (doesn't matter, i didn't re... : dedgecko
    • thats crap too.I guess it wouldn't upset me so much, but the range on them is ridiculous plus they can st... : ultramega
• Play a better game. Like UT. : omnova

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• I bet he wouldn't even like the new star trek because it's not the 1960s star trek. : Prozium
• WTF : Super Sparker
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  VHS? Really? Seriously? : Fred Garvin
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    At first I thought he was joking. : baron calamity
    • Sounds like some of the eighty year old women that wonder the Hollywood video next door... : VictoriouSecret
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    I still use my VCR. Yes, VHS, really. In fact, I need to go get some more blank tapes today or tomorrow. : AxeMan808
    • Why.....? : pancake humper
    • that's funny. i have to return some videotapes. : dirge23
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      I get that. Recording the a VCR is still useful. Its the whole buying prerecorded movies on tapes that se... : baron calamity
      • Useful?! Dvd recorders are not even useful. : DarkWolf5
      • Now, that's true..The last pre-recorded tape I bought was used at The Book Nook (Samurai Armageddon: Rebo... : AxeMan808
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        In my opinion, recording things with a VCR was only ever useful until the DVR was invented. What do yo... : Schnapple
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          Except that DVRs are really expensive. If you already had a VCR there's only the cost of a tape, which y... : boarder2
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            That's valid. I mean even though a TiVo is cheap now (like $79) there's no way to run it in a way that's ... : Schnapple
            • Actually... can't you run it exactly the same way as you can a VCR? Or did they disable that? : boarder2
    • have you heard of a dvr : Deathlove
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      DVR. MCPC, TIVO? : Jimbo Ro
      • $$$$. I *have* a VCR. : AxeMan808
    • VCRs are good for movies that are so shitty they don't bother putting them on DVD. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
    • even the library has given up on carrying VHS tapes : cptstern
  • at least it isn't Betamax. : LordHellMaX
  • never having been on the internet is far more ridiculous in my mind : zerog83
  • Really makes you think : tomservo
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  No cell phone no internet? No fucking way. Is this guy 80 years old? : bolneze
  • I can get the no cellphone. If I didn't need this one for business I wouldn't have one either. I absolu... : nukewinter
• He has a HDTV but not DVD / Bluray player? Get him a $100 BD player and ST for X-mas. : Jimbo Ro
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  i bet he only plays single-player games, too : EvilDolemite
  • Nothin wrong with that, son. : TShandy
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    what else would he play? : pancake humper
    • 4 player coop games, but by himself : kaddar0
  • They're the best kind : Mr. Goodwrench
• Obviously, there is something else going on here. Either he's a senior citizen or he's got some sort of p... : Attica Blue
• Heh, I knew a guy exactly like this. One of the weirdest dudes I've ever met. : Sgt_Boomstick
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  hahaha Tell him 2009 is calling. : NFXFSX
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    He still hasn't listened to the voicemail 1999 left for him : EvilDolemite
    • lol : Phil
  • Tell him 2001 is calling. : PointlesS76
  • His telegraph can't decode that. : ieGod
• Derelict much. : orgcaptainnemo
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  my brother is kind of like this. He owns a massive CRT television and monitor and he doesnt have a cell ... : ultramega
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    Nothing wrong with CRT TVs and monitors. They are a ton better than LCD tvs. : Jimbo Ro
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      not a ton. better blacks and viewing angles and no response rates, but geometry issues, sharpness issues... : EvilDolemite
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        It was more of a weight joke :p : Jimbo Ro
        • http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/681/original/what-you-did-there-i-see-it.thumbnail.jpg : homeboyJim
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        Tell me about it, I had a 36" sony XBR CRT HDTV and when we moved I said fuck it and sold it because I di... : nukewinter
        • I think thats the model he has and his same exact reason for not getting rid of it. Its a beast. : ultramega
• he is beyond your help : dromo5
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  yep sounds like your typical pc gamer : spiderfill
  • yep sounds like your typical troll : greasyjohn
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  I'd recommend staying "friends" but distancing yourself as far away as possible. He is clearly killing p... : goatjc
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    At work we have placed bets that the guy is Dexter in real life. : baron calamity
    • does he go crazy if you touch his ears? : spiderfill
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  I cannot fathom who would buy a huge CRT HDTV (which were pretty cutting edge at the time, not a dime a d... : aethyr
  • When his TV broke, he bought what then was the best technology and the most future proof set he could fin... : baron calamity
  • I have one of those, Sony HDTV CRT 4:3 weighs +400 pounds, take three guys to move it, I hate the fucker.... : Ender.Wiggin
  • I have a Sony Wega CRT HDTV. The thing weigh so goddamn much but it works great. I'd love to buy a new LC... : Iazu
• You know what grinds my gears? People from the 18th century. GET WITH THE PROGRAM PEOPLE! : stuka
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  Does your friend have Ass Burgers? : pancake humper
  • Not that I know of. : baron calamity
  • What does that have to do with anything? There's something to be said about people who live by the ada... : walker270
• Does he plays L4D on solo only? sorry :( : Nitrium
• i think your friend doesn't care whats new in the market. Seems like he is only willing to buy "top-of-th... : Jikim
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  Could you hook it up for him? : beanman101283
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    he'll be pissed about how the movie is letterboxed : dantastic
    • hahaha I didn't think about that. : baron calamity
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  No phone? No lights? No motorcar? Not a single luxury? : Loofus
  • Seriously: don't waste your money. If he wants to see it, he'll have to change something. He couldn't b... : Loofus
  • Like Robinson Coruso he's as primitive as can be, apparently : sludge vohaul
• How can a guy who watches futuristic sci-fi cling to old technology? I mean......doesn't that kind of con... : avatar_58
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  MY LUDDITE : SolveChrist
  • lol : Phil
• This dude probably has some serious issues. : Zek
• You should invite him over and have him read this thread ... it'll blow his mind :D : homeboyJim
• If you're a trekkie, shouldn't you be a techie as well? : Gunzee
• So you're friends with my dad? : FormerHPB
• He sounds like me but with software : tomservo
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  Sounds ideal to me. Pretty pathetic to see someone who isn't sucked into to the hollow consumerism of ... : greasyjohn
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    Only sheeple buy DVDs, fucking conformist faggots I hope they die while sipping their starbuck lattes. : gmd
    • I probably will :( : daneloire
  • http://www.trendhunter.com/images/phpthumbnails/6502_1_230.jpeg There's a difference between being suc... : Schnapple
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    instead they're into the hollow consumerism of a previous decade : Megara9
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      but retro hollow consumerism is cool : DapperDan
      • hipsters ftw : Megara9
  • shacknews. : arizona bay
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    your mom was crazy into hollow consumerism last night : geedeck
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      oh no you did not : Deathlove
      • I saw her buy a Zhu-Zhu, its true! : geedeck
  • says the guy posting on a video game forum. WHOOPS : Downforce
• buy him a fleshlight instead : dumbacid
• i stayed off the cell phone train until like 2006. i still hate it, but it's a necessary evil i guess. an... : cpt_gloval
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  I busted my parents watching a tape recently on their 48" 1080p LCD. It was a recorded tape from like 19... : industro
  • This is why BluRay won't overtake DVDs for movies in quite a long while. There's too much people out ther... : SilverSnake
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  I'm curious... what does he do for a living? : Ride-My-Rocket
  • suck : sludge vohaul

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  I got L4D1 for Xmas as a gift last year, IIRC, and logged 140+ hours with it. I bought L4D2 at launch fo... : Ride-My-Rocket
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    I also logged 100+ hours into L4D1, but imho, that's probably the problem for me. I'm so tired of the rou... : Sgt_Boomstick
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      perhaps try Vs. as the new infected, or scavenge, or realism? : EvilDolemite
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        Tried all of those. Vs. is kind of fun right now, but just as with L4D1...when people start learning the ... : Sgt_Boomstick
        • I think I get where you are coming from (even though I disagree), but six hours with the game, a game wit... : ezanga
• Even though I ultimately bought L4D1 I'm glad I almost never played it (I probably launched it twice) bec... : Attica Blue
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  L4D2 was ultimately priced like an expansion pack thanks to the various deals such as the 4pack + pre-ord... : veras
  • Right, but their still asking full price right now without the deals. I'm actually less concerned about t... : Sgt_Boomstick
  • yeah I bought as part of 4-pack over thanksgiving sale, that felt like an appropriate price. good value ... : ]pm[chem
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  I have over 120 hours into L4D2 and it is way more than some DLC. Adds so much to the game I couldn't ima... : NexusOne
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    For you, what are the major improvements that truly set it apart? I've picked up on a lot of the sublte i... : Sgt_Boomstick
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      Damage model for the zombies. The localized dismemberment and gore are a really nice touch. The changes t... : Duffman8369
      • All this, plus realism mode, scavenger mode, better vs mode scoring : NexusOne
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        But how is that "sequel" and not "expansion pack?" : Ebu
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          I don't know what you want. How many expansion packs do you know of that rehaul the fucking game engine? ... : Duffman8369
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            Diablo 2's expansion pretty much changed everything about the game. Starcraft's expansion completely alte... : Modica Sol Solis
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              I'm not talking about just changing the gameply. Obviously the examples you mentioned change the way thin... : Duffman8369
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                I would argue that LoD fundamentally changed D2. The extra resolution required a whole new set of things : Modica Sol Solis
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                  Ok, I concede your point on LoD. Honestly it had been so long since I played D2 without it that I forgot ... : Duffman8369
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                    I don't know if the characters persay in L4D really mean anything to me. New dialogue, sure, but they're ... : Modica Sol Solis
                    • Ok yeah the characters in L4D are new skins with different dialogue but they also have their own story an... : Duffman8369
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            What exactly is "rehauled" in L4D2's engine? : dewdman
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              The graphics, the gore effects, the damage model, environmental effects, THE AI DIRECTOR. Have you pla... : Duffman8369
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                Everything you've described is essentially script tweaks to the original system. It's refinement, not an ... : dewdman
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                  Oh sorry, I didn't realize that a game had to push the boundaries of photorealism to be visually appealin... : Duffman8369
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                    This is some serious front-pager quality stuff right here : dewdman
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                      You're the one acting like a front page poster, dude. Refusing to see that L4D2 IS a great improvement ov... : Dschinghis Khan
                      • I'm not refusing anything, or even hating on L4D2. No where have I said it's a bad game, or not fun. I si... : dewdman
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          What the fuck is the difference? : OverloadUT
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            The only difference is price. If they market it as a sequel, then they generally get away with bullshit f... : Modica Sol Solis
            • Demo didn't leave me feeling it was fresh enough to deserve sequel status. I'll get it at expansion price... : ihya
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      That it plays nothing like the first game? The three new zombie special infected are game changers. ... : Jimbo Ro
      • Add in all the graphic and atmosphere upgrades and I don't see how you can call it an expansion pack. : Jimbo Ro
    • Weapons - greater variety, AND melee weapons <-- awesome addition that changes the game at its core D... : ezanga
    • Better, more interesting levels? They are really diverse this time around, and not limited to either par... : deathofrats
    • - The AI is more aggressive. - Cornering is done away with now. - AI changing the path layouts for ever... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  i've only played L4D2, but looking at some youtube videos of L4D I feel like I would have been disappoint... : mrtony
  • L4D2 is a lot like L4D except better in every way. : SockMonkeh
• I dont understand the whole DLC logic So much has been added that I don't think it wouldve fit in a DLC ... : jingletard
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  I didn't play L4D, however I was going to post a similar thread on the shack, mainly about your "defend t... : flagg209
  • Ya, I was really hoping for this exact scenario. I also don't want a seperate mode for it either, I want ... : Sgt_Boomstick
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    How would that map end? The three of them spit-roasting Rochelle surrounded by bottles of water and tins ... : inchwide
    • Haha yea. Sure sounds like a shitty ending to me for a game. : phate81
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      a 4 day campaign, each day would be spent fortifying, each night defending, then you'd move to the next... : flagg209
      • or maybe at the end you find your own boat / trailer / working car / C130 and you just GTFO : flagg209
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        Why does it have to be morning? The infected are just as active in the day. : mroizo40
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          Because from a survival point of view, the light you need to find materials to defend would likely attrac... : flagg209
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            But there's no reason the guys inside would force survivors to wait outside until morning before letting ... : mroizo40
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              Yeah, because the gunstore owner was really helpful, friendly and inviting. : flagg209
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                He also didn't make you fight a zombie horde for an entire night : mroizo40
                • if that's how long it takes to get his coke he would : flagg209
    • Who says it has to end there. It could lead to another section of the campaign or even trigger a alternat... : Sgt_Boomstick
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    isn't that survival mode? : NexusOne
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      sort of, but there is just wave after wave of zombie in survivor mode and then it is over. You stay stag... : flagg209
      • I like the idea that you are holed up there for 3-4 "days" (ie large zombie attacks) the you gotta leave ... : ezanga
      • Survivor mode is very 1 dimensional and was an after thought. I'd love to see something very fleshed out ... : Sgt_Boomstick
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        I think the big problem with this idea is that L4D is sort of predicated on survivor movement as being in... : mroizo40
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          Your absolutely right....and those are the types of changes you put in a sequel. : Sgt_Boomstick
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            I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it doesn't sound like l4d2 is the game for you. : Drakoniac
            • Well I loved L4D1. Played it to death. I guess I just wanted more out of a game with a "2" in the title t... : Sgt_Boomstick
          • That would be a completely different game. : OverloadUT
      • That is exactly what survivor mode is. Why are you even posting if you've never played this game? : mysled
• I'd say it definitely is a sequel. I mean look at something like Doom 2 compared to Doom 1. There were ev... : Chod
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  weather effects, spitter, and a bunch of time with a map editor. definitely feels expansion packish. st... : ]pm[chem
  • Realism on Hard Rain is just plain amazing. So easy to lose everyone, you really have to communicate and... : FirmButtstone
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  As soon as I exited the elevator into the burning hotel in Dead Center, I felt Valve had stepped their ga... : filtersweep
  • No shit. And I've already played it so much I find myself wanting new maps. : pyide
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  you all are some cheap ass motherfuckers! L4D2 is leaps and bounds better than the original. the first on... : theWhite
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    How am I a cheap ass? Sounds like you were initially the cheap ass for picking it up for $30. The content... : Sgt_Boomstick
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      Just curious, but what sequels out there don't simply feel like extensions of their priors? Most are even... : pyide
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        HL1 -> Hl2. : Sgt_Boomstick
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          wtf : dognose
          • nm I misread that, carry on : dognose
        • Oh come on, those games were also 6 years apart, it only makes sense it would be quite a drastic improvem... : pyide
        • That is like the uppermost limit in time before a sequel becomes a reboot. Most sequels come out a year o... : Zek
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        Rainbow Six Vegas -> Rainbow Six Vegas 2 : Bull
        • Vegas 2 actually felt like a step backwards to me :/ Go figure. : pyide
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          Yep, that's one I listed above as a game that should have not had a "2" in the title. That should have be... : Sgt_Boomstick
          • It originally was ! : MrLobo
      • I've not played l4d so I'm making no statement about IT, just some games that are more than expansion pac... : batkiwi
• Scavenge mode! : acheron
• wow, couldn't disagree more, and i was very lukewarm on L4D2 pre-release. having said that, I didn't pay : PlanetPerfecto
• I have played so much of each game that I feel I owe Valve a lot of money. : dognose
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  Many of us paid <$40, which is in expansion territory price. They called it a sequel, but it's priced as ... : aggressor
  • "Live with it." I love it. : Sgt_Boomstick
• i don't believe that you have played this game. : ass-street
• I think it's because the original one was so limited - only 6 weapons, 4 monsters, 4 campaigns. It's prob... : melt_core
• lol we are debating the merits of two perfect and reasonably priced games. : dognose
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  Ok, say they DID do that....here's waht it would or should look like Parish Campaign Scavenger Mode ... : sreyes22
  • You left out a lot of stuff too. : SockMonkeh
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  You underestimate the effects of the new weapon system structure on gameplay. : melt_core
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    What? Melée? He's obviously right. I knew it in advance and bought it anyway. There is no reason fo... : Wheatloaf
    • I can't tell wether this is an ironic post or not?.... : melt_core
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  I want to see my legs and feet again :( VALVE!!! I want my legs and feet back! : Waffles!
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    I don't actually. The last time I played L4D I looked down to see the legs and they looked horrible. Hone... : Duffman8369
    • ah i didn't think they were that bad. That said, I don't notice not having them as much as I thought I w... : deathofrats
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  I totally agree. I'm enjoying the game a lot right now, but only because I got my revenge on Valve and g... : cack
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    You're an ass and you don't deserve to be play such an awesome game. Which is in fact a full sequel, you ... : Duffman8369
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      Wow. Just wow. : Sgt_Boomstick
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        You too. You should just uninstall the game! Stop posting! Die! : Duffman8369
        • Obviously I'm joking with all the insults above, but I have to disagree with your assessment of the conte... : Duffman8369
    • Screw you, dude. I gave them my money and played the game to death. I was expecting tf2 and got sin epi... : cack
  • you sure showed them! I'M BOYCOTTING MY PREORDER THAT I CANCELED! : Dschinghis Khan
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  I feel the exact same way, but I got bored of it even sooner. I've discussed this a lot with co-workers/f : dewdman
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    I largely agree with this. Except I don't think they are a mod developer...I just with they could have ta... : Sgt_Boomstick
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      I can't really think of anything else I want from L4D2 as far as gameplay goes besides the obvious in new... : pyide
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        Then I guess you have a limited imagination. : Sgt_Boomstick
        • This is what bothers me most, I think. I truly think Valve could have pushed this franchise a lot further... : dewdman
        • Or maybe I like elegance and simplicity and balance of the gameplay and the flow and layout of the levels... : pyide
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    I disagree. The gameplay is completely different now. The infected AI is better; it's more aggressive and... : mroizo40
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      I agree with your disagreement. dewdman's post actually made me feel a little ill. : Duffman8369
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        but Duffy, MW2 was in development for a whole year more and it definitely shows. I mean, COME ON, can't y : Drakoniac
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          That was the part that basically made me throw up on my keyboard. Are you fucking kidding me? 2 years for... : Duffman8369
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            ONE MORE YEAR : Drakoniac
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              THAT'S IT! PREORDER CANCELED! : Duffman8369
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                hey guys whats going on in this circle jerk subthread : dewdman
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                  We're making fun of some dude with a hyperactive sense of entitlement. : Duffman8369
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                    I feel entitled to nothing. I'm expressing disappointment. There is a difference. Also, I think I make a ... : dewdman
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                      No, they're just point out how your argument is fucking stupid and you're wrong about the game. : Dschinghis Khan
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                        ok! thanks for participating in a meanginful way Dschinghis Khan : dewdman
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                          Look at Drak's post below and Cliffzorz's post below that. He said exactly what i wanted to say but i cou... : Dschinghis Khan
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                            So you're just trolling, then? k : dewdman
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                              No, you're posts just make me so angry i couldn't form a coherent argument to show you how wrong you were... : Dschinghis Khan
                              • That's a pretty silly thing to get so bent out of shape over, Dschinghis Khan. You should work on that. : dewdman
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                  so you don't think you had to love cod4 to really really get into cod4.2? are you really comparing the : Drakoniac
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                    I like how you use cliches and "cod4.2" as a way to somehow invalidate my opinion. Singleplayer: From : dewdman
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                      Wer're not talking about the entire CoD franchise vs. l4d here. We're discussing the merits of referring ... : Duffman8369
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                        The point is MW2 offers both a singleplayer and a coop mode that are completely independent from one anot : dewdman
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                          The problem with your rationalization is that you are saying that L4D2 is anemic as a sequel because it d... : ezanga
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                            Then with that kind of logic we can say MW1 is twice the game L4D1 was, especially considering they retai... : dewdman
                            • But the point is, your argument would only be valid if you showed that MW2 was a true sequel because it i... : ezanga
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    let me get this straight. L4D had four campaigns. L4D2 has five, with far more special effects, special i... : filthysock
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      there is far too much logic in your post, i fear it will be ignored, filthy :( : PlanetPerfecto
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        we should play some realism mode, i tried it out last night and its really fun. : filthysock
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          or were you in that game? They're all starting to blur. : filthysock
          • yeah mate i was, we were all sleepy though that game, it was pretty late for everyone involved :) - and y... : PlanetPerfecto
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      The campaigns are basically loosely stringed together levels. It a lot easier for the level designers to : dewdman
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        Hahahahaha wait a second. The campaign in MW2 wasn't a loosely stringed together series of levels? I'm dy... : quadeh
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          Also, saying the campaign was 8 hours is disingenuous of you. I could see that maybe if you're very bad a... : quadeh
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            for fucks sakes I'm not even the one who said it was 8 hours. : dewdman
            • Sorry, this thread is full of bullshit. Nonetheless, since you want an apples to oranges comparison; M... : quadeh
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          Did I say something to imply they weren't? Nope, I didn't, and as irrelevant as that is, what's your poin... : dewdman
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            You provided that as evidence for the quick nature of development of the L4D2 campaigns, yet this is exac... : quadeh
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              Correct. And? : dewdman
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                and it was a stupid bullshit point. Criticizing one game because most games basically loosely string tog... : ezanga
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                  Except it wasn't a "stupid bullshit point" because it was in response to filthysock's statement that L4D2... : dewdman
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                    Except that MW2... doesn't? : quadeh
                    • ... k i'm going home. : dewdman
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                You asked for my point. I explicitly explained to you that it is stupid to use the loose stringing of lev... : quadeh
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                  See my response above to ezanga. You're taking the comment out of context and seeing it as some kind of v... : dewdman
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                    There's nothing out of context about it, and it was a blatant criticism you made about the way in which L... : quadeh
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                      You call me a hypocrite, yet post something like that. What a joke. Your "arguments" are inflammatory and... : dewdman
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                        Oh please, my arguments were no more inflammatory than yours. Like I said, it's a measure of civility, no : quadeh
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                          Except I did clarify. It's up there ^^^ Read. I'm not going to dignify your pedantic arguments with mo... : dewdman
                          • "Except it wasn't a "stupid bullshit point" because it was in response to filthysock's statement that L4D... : quadeh
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    Valve's L4D2 team were able to develop a full game worth of new content and more in a year, while introdu... : Cliffzorz
    • ONE WHOLE YEAR. CLIFF! You jerk. : Dschinghis Khan
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      You actually make some good points Cliff but this post will be largely ignored. : Dschinghis Khan
      • I should've used lots of ATTENTION GETTING TEXT : Cliffzorz
    • INF'D : mysled
    • +1 for Cliffzorz : Duffman8369
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      Who says they failed to achieve XBL infrastructure on the PC? It works fine 99% of the time I use it. No ... : dewdman
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        but I think IW was smart dumb in a way to omit the option : MercFox1
        • shrug. Hasn't affected me negatively at all, except to force me to come up with creative ways to deal wit... : dewdman
    • ^^Seriously. L4D2 is ten times the sequel that MW2 is, in aspects from content to balance to visual impro... : quadeh
    • Yeah the fact that this guy uses MW2 as an example of how to make a proper sequel is fucking absurd. MW2... : kill9
  • You cite MW2 as a sequel yet call L4D2 DLC? Get out of here. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I had this long reply but decided half way through that i've said the same thing before. so I'll go with ... : Godhatesfatpeople
  • ^^^ I agree with all the points raised by this guy. : NastyJack
• I'm loving me some Scavenge Mode! Although, it could maybe do with randomzied fuel can locations and diff... : Snuffles-
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  I like how all the people that complain about this game are the people I have never played with or even s... : mysled
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    LoL. I play with my own set of friends that I play every other game with. Trust me, I'm not pubbing it wi... : Sgt_Boomstick
    • Maybe your friends are boring. : mysled
• If all this shit was free DLC for the first L4D and Valve was still charging 30 bones for it (L4D1), you ... : CrabsJarrard
• its bigger than the original yet its DLC? : pandastrong
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  I think the only thing I wish from l4d2 is even more weapons. I'd love to have a ton of weapon choices, ... : Q-ball
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    there are a lot in there two sniper rifles, three or four shotguns, an uzi, an MP5, ak-47, desert rifl... : EvilDolemite
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      Is the M-14 still the only one with a sight? : AxeMan808
      • two rifles have sights : EvilDolemite
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        That's a Mini-14, not an M14 : free2game365
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          Mini-14 fires 5.56N, M-14 fires 7.62N. In my limited experience with L4D, the one with the scope did more... : AxeMan808
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            Your mistake is trying to attribute realism to the weapons when an M-16 hold 50 rounds. : ArcKnight
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              You could have an M-16 holding 100, if you wanted. : AxeMan808
              • Yes, using drum magazines, which aren't in the game. : ArcKnight
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      an MP5? Is that what the 3 round burst combat rifle is? also there's that silenced mac-10 or whatever : judge
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        he's probably thinking of the silenced uzi. there is an MP5 in the censored german version though, along ... : pyide
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          i guess it's called a "sub machine gun" http://left4dead.wikia.com/wiki/File:Smg_1.png i don't know wh... : EvilDolemite
          • there actually is an mp5, but only the german pre-orderers and people who play with them have access to i... : Drakoniac
    • A boomstick shotgun woulda been cool... like, to send zombies flying, if not just for some ragdoll physic... : snuff
  • Hell yes. I want to be inundated with variety for guns, like the ol firearms mod. 15 types of pistols, et... : judge
• There is a lot new. It feels evolved if not revolutionary but thats OK as so few sequels take things eith... : =]Milo[=
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  Come on guys. We all agree that it's fun, that is not in question. The fact is, this game is seriously ... : Wheatloaf
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    I dunno man, i think the improvements to this are a lot more impressive then you are giving them credit f... : Dschinghis Khan
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      I think they are fairly obvious, evolutionary improvements. I don't think there are fundamental changes ... : Wheatloaf
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        my only real complaint is that the NPC AI actually went backwards it seems : filthysock
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          All the AI is shocking to see in a professionally developed title. Like the animations, it's something I... : Wheatloaf
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            from what i understand, they run an extremely tight processor budget and maybe the animations for healing... : filthysock
            • At that point I think they should re-evaluate their targets. I don't think the animations are a spec thi... : Wheatloaf
      • I dunno, i guess i just think they didn't really need to change it fundamentally. And i totally disagree ... : Dschinghis Khan
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    *high-five* : dewdman
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      "hey guys whats going on in this circle jerk subthread" : quadeh
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        hey guys I have a fan! : dewdman
        • Yeap, your hypocrisy goes great with some popcorn. : quadeh
  • But I paid $50. : snuff
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  I spent only 6 hours playing L4D2 :(. It just doesnt bring many new gameplay mechanics into the zombie Ge... : Techy007
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    3 new awesome infected, tons of new weapons, new maps, new characters, new dialogue, bile jar is new, adr... : NastyJack
    • new new NEW NEW NEW NEWNEWNEWNOWNOWNOWNOWNOM NOM NOM NOM NOM : filthysock
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  Doom 2 wasn't a real sequel either!!! All it added was new weapons, monsters, and levels!!!!!!~~~~~√ : DM7
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    . . . . and it came on floppy disks. FLOPPY DISKS!!! They couldn't even create enough new content to fi... : ezanga
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      I don't think the kids even know what a floppy is now. : Lightzout
      • Whippersnappers! : ezanga
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    I think this thread has a winner, and his name is DM7. : quadeh
    • *bow* I do what I can. :P : DM7
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    The beauty of your reply is that it's *puts on sunglasses* Dead Simple. : DOOManiac
    • YYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH : MercFox1
• I was already bored of L4D1, and I agree, I just can't get into L4D2. I've tried several times, it just i... : Benefit
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  Seriously the shack should take its mouth off valve's cock sometime. The fact that people are saying : dissembler
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    That's ridiculous. Months before people even played the game there were tons of people out there saying i... : pyide
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      I bought L4D1 through Steam. It was all DLC. : CrabsJarrard
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        L4D1 was total DLC! Should have been free with the purchase of any source game!!!!1 : quadeh
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          Yeah man! I was pissed that it wasn't a part of Windows update! : CrabsJarrard
          • Windows should have been DLC when I bought my hardware components. It's a conspiracy! : quadeh
  • You're right. Sequels should feel the same... but different! like DLC. : CrimsonHandHiro
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    L4D2 doesn't feel like DLC. : MercFox1
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      Unless you can somehow fit new AI and engine improvements in DLC and make that work with the old game. : MercFox1
      • Just because it can't be done via DLC doesn't mean it can't feel like it... from the admittedly little I'... : Benefit
  • Yeah you're right, everything people complain about on the internet is valid : veras

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  poor guy. : noobja
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    yeah must suck to be tim tebow. : akirabob
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      In the event that he does not make it in the NFL, he is a "Poor guy" im my book. That's because his life ... : noobja
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        Uh, he will make it to the NFL and he will most likely be a first round pick because someone will take a ... : virus
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          I'm sure he'll get drafted, I was referring to whether or not he'd be successful. : noobja
          • it won't matter with his $80 million dollar contract with $15 million signing bonus : kevp
        • we won't be drafted high, but he will probably make millions being an evangelist on tv. : swoopx
• 0wned!!! : CrustaR
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  http://www.shackpics.com/files/timtebwhoah_dzu7rfhyyj390pv7wnsx.jpg : indosauros
  • hahahahah LOL! : RogerDandy
  • hahaha : jimmy_legs
  • hahaha : Godhatesfatpeople
  • so much funnier than it should be hahaha : AlexXdude
  • haha, exactly.. : deathofrats
  • hahaha :D : virus
  • LOL : Downforce
  • hahaha : Shadowdane
  • one hour photo : m0rfus
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    wtf is that white thing : ass-street
    • Tim Tebow : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Someone gracefully letting us know John is a Ho. : ant_hillbilly
    • empty thought bubble : Dimmona
  • i don't get it : [fry]
  • hahaha I went looking down the thread for a comment like this : Arctic Fox
  • Isn't that how you'd imagine Satan to look? : edgewise
  • Lol! So funny, nailed it!! : dumbacid
  • I was expecting edgewise to make an appearance. : Dschinghis Khan
• the guy in the picture on the right is cracking me up..it's like he knows your innermost secrets.. : deathofrats
• they should cast him as lead in the uncharted movie if they make one. : dopeman
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  I think we need to pool all of our Athletes Crying photos together. I crave them. : tomservo
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    well, since they mentioned Adam Morrison... http://trueball.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/morrisoncryer... : CrimsonHandHiro
    • Hahahaha that one is great : tomservo
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  I'd probably break down if I lost the heisman, sec championship and BCS national championship in one game... : Omning
  • He hadn't realistically been in the running for a Heisman for a while, but still, I see your point. : coldfusioncs
• Wow, pretty sarcastic comment from a sports journalist. : Phreakin
• I think this big fag has cried in every loss, granted there havent been that many, but he surely doesn't ... : Saman
• Nice hair, nerd. : Navy Spitfire

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  any chance you'll add normalization for total posts per day (or whatever binning you are using)? : aethyr
  • I addressed that in the middle of the post. : c0bra
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  despite the [lol] plugin, posts with "lol" are still growing in poop-ularity http://www.c0bra.net/shackw... : yacoub35
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    Man that dip at the very end of the graph is showing up on all the results. I'm going to have to figure t... : c0bra
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      Oh ok that dip is for December 2009 which we are barely though, so naturally the count for that month wil... : c0bra
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        there's also an issue with the [lol] plugin right now where it's showing all recently lol'd posts as by "... : yacoub35
        • that tricksy O'Connor! : PlanetPerfecto
  • seems like at some point in 2008 it got VERY hilarious haha : LordHellMaX
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    Yeah but these aren't posts that are just "lol", and it doesn't include metalol concepts, like askedrelic... : kaddar0
    • It was more meta in the past! http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/meta?trended=1 :P : c0bra
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  What'd I do in late 2008 that made this spike happen! http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/Modica : Modica Sol Solis
  • I don't know! : c0bra
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    mine spikes up to 100+ late this year. no clue what it was. seems like it can't be correct http://ww... : electroly
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      I dunno, do a vanity search. : c0bra
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        does each data point represent a whole month? i guess i did have about that many in november : electroly
        • 99/100 of them are from crustar : electroly
        • Yes; I can't go by any date range smaller than a month as it's too much data to fit on my poor little vir... : c0bra
    • isnt that around the time WOTLK came out? : oHnOES
• the decline of 3dfx and the growth of ATI and NVIDIA http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/3dfx/nvidia/ati : giant boy detective
• I love cool stats. Nice job c0bra. Lets see if this post can pump you up enough to be more popular than t... : getfrisky
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  it says i broke it :( : Flying h4x0r
  • Yea, you can only do words, not phrases (i.e. no spaces) :( Sorry, I do not have the resources to do p... : c0bra
• you know how to make a man feel special :D : Dave-A
• http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/fuck I don't get it! : Majuju
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  i really peaked in 2008 : fletch_
  • well, late 2007 : c0bra
• hmm. quite telling. http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/penis/vagina : PlanetPerfecto
• :D : geedeck
• goddammit shack you were at your best in 2003 http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/missionary/cowgirl/doggy... : xsoulbrothax
• shacknews is getting increasingly gay: http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/chick/dick : mysled
• You can see how I used to be awesome :( http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/ashkie : ashkie
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  menz is on its way out! http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/menz : OverloadUT
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    odd.. 'heh' follows a similar downwards trend! : xsoulbrothax
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      Same with these gems: http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/teh/amirite : c0bra
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        thank GOD. holy shit haha. although i'm guilty of a couple amirites in recent months :( : xsoulbrothax
        • Heh. Teh menz suck, amirite? : Rotten Deadite
• verrray cool! : Flinz
• In order of trend it goes dick > asshole > pussy. No surprise there. : Grumbeld
• 2009, the year of sparkly http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/sparkly : sparkly
• Oh wow, someone actually said my name once. And it wasn't CrustaR. : ecclesio
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  The symmetry here is too good to be coincidence: http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/shit/fuck : Arctic Fox
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    That's probably more a trend due to site growth. Check this out: http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/shit/... : c0bra
    • Ah so it is, nicely spotted. : Arctic Fox
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  Word longer than 3 letters with most hits? http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/awesome* : rotten element
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    http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/awesome/they : ecclesio
    • Even better: http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/awesome/that : ecclesio
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  The hell happened here? http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/woof : dognose
  • http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/woof/dognose coincidence?! : c0bra
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    I like this one: http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/foom : mysled
    • That makes me wonder what happened in 2002 and in 2004 to make people say foom. : DM7
  • http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/sniff/j00 : rock elf
• http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/cunt is on the rise -- I've even noticed it in myself that I think about ... : sparkly
• not surprising: http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/meme/4chan : yAak
• http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/khaa*/fuu* : rotten element
• http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/obama/harper : sikander
• You can see my time at the shack plummet when WoW was out: http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/dm7 I was goi... : DM7
• Heh. http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/cocksucker/deadwood : AxeMan808
• http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/gamefly : Bob_Loblaw
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  http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/gap Why the large spike? : chuck577
  • probably the thread where we all talked about what a gap was and wasnt, and had pictures. unfortunately ... : oHnOES
• Bullshit. http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/jibs/gibs : Utopia
• damn I wish it could do phrases. Could track the rise and fall of the mastication of felines. : DarkWolf5
• I agree with number four. : Maddog_Delphi97
• Getting political! http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/obama/mccain/palin http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords... : jasonepowell
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  Apparently in 2004 and 2006 the word 'ass' was not being spoken : themaestro2657
  • Ooops. Must read entire posts. : themaestro2657
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  http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/lamp/sand/lime : rgoer
  • I think this was a record for LET'S RUN THIS SHIT INTO THE GROUND http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/2018 : rgoer
• poop really spiked in 2003 http://www.c0bra.net/shackwords/poop : tunis5000

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• Ding dong, the witch is dead. : NexusOne
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  I'm getting upgraded to lotus notes 8.5. *sobs* : DarkWolf5
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    Notes 8.5 isn't that bad. I have almost forgotten about Outlook / Exchange now : spiffymc
    • stockholm syndrome :( : nudel
• Congrats! Speaking of Lotus "Fucking" Notes, this quite from an MS guy made me laugh: http://blogs.... : nudel
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  fuck lotus notes so hard. in the face. : Draugluin
  • with a meat cleaver : yacoub35
• Notes spawned from Satan's anus, I am convinced of this. : Fred Garvin
• outsourced : retardhumper
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  I'm curious as to why everyone hates Lotus Notes. I agree that Outlook is better and that everything unti... : spiffymc
  • For one, it's incredibly slow and cumbersome. Even the simplest actions like wanting to composite a new e... : stelth
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    you know how emacs is so bloated and programmable that it's like it's own operating system that happens t... : electroly
    • M-x kill electroly : tashtego
    • lol : riptyde
    • sweet : ]pm[chem
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    It feels like it was written entirely in Java and you're trying to run it on a Pentium 133 : bipolar
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      Yeah it was written entirely on top of Eclipse. I lol every time I open task manager and see eclipse.exe ... : spiffymc
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        Oh holy shit, it is Java? That would explain everything. : bipolar
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          Oh yeah it's 100% Java made by IBM India : spiffymc
          • I hate this trend in enterprise software. Huge bloated apps running inside a javaw.exe process, or worse... : the archvile
      • There's also a non-Eclipse interface, which is what we run. It's the same old UI that you probably rememb... : rock elf
      • GOOD LORD. That explains everything. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      I have also yet to see a 100% java fat client application that isn't slow and crappy. : spiffymc
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        Oracle's installation and configuration interfaces are... interesting. : riptyde
        • Ugh, Oracle. Excellent (and f'ing expensive) relational database engine, nightmarish GUIs. : the archvile
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    Yes it is that bad. It's also terrible about being compatible with Outlook. We have Exchange at work, a... : riptyde
    • Yeah I remember having to deal with that at one of my recent clients. Very annoying. : spiffymc
  • Because everyone new who starts wants to use Outlook and I have to explain to them that they can't. Then... : freak!
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    http://lotusnotessucks.4t.com/index.html : slax0r
    • That site doesn't even scratch the surface, either. I think you could fill an entire Internet with explan... : nudel
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    We use it at USBank and it's not because it's a preferred thing, it's because the company is so fucking d... : jingletard
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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_lock-in 'd : the archvile
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        Pretty much. As I understand it, there is a lot of old tech still being used in huge financial instituti... : jingletard
        • HP-UX on PA-RISC? At some point, it may be less expensive to bite the bullet and port to something moder... : the archvile
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          We have probably the largest remaining implementation of OpenVMS. : eldersveld
          • Also, three years ago I spotted a fucking Data General Eclipse in the datacenter of an accounting firm. ... : eldersveld
          • OpenVMS? Meh, you and your fancy GUI. We'll never move off of z/OS, ever. : Talonus.
    • We have this problem. It was decided a long time ago to switch to Outlook, but first we have to switch to... : rock elf
    • Wachovia had the same issue? : Clay
  • My wife wants to rape you with a shovel. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Yes. Yes it can be. <shudder> : indosauros
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  I fucking wish we'd get away from Lotus Notes, but apparently we just migrated OVER to it not three years... : stelth
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    I've never met a person who has used both Exchange and Notes and has anything but hatred for Notes. The ... : riptyde
    • I used to have issues with Exchange, Outlook, PST files etc... After working at a place that used Note... : nudel
• Is it outlook 07 you'll have the pleasure of using? Yeah... until you go to edit some html messages, ha h... : ryuuseki
• Welcome to this century. : omnova
• PARADIGM SHIFT'D! : hussdelrio
• From the Lotus rape-fest to the Microsoft dildo. I love the sweet smell of progress! : r_Ed
• Congrats. : CoRDS
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  I have to use Novell Groupwise :( : meesterbill
  • Us too :( god it's such a piece of shit. : Flying h4x0r
  • i spent 5 years with it. =-( : kbnerd
  • This is what our company uses and it's slow as shit!! : paulatreus
  • I remember a sage-like coworker telling me that if I ever encountered a company that ran Novell, I should... : the archvile
  • I do too, and while I love Exchange I don't mind GroupWise all that much. We're upgrading to version 8 so... : angrytaxman
• The good news almost excuses the use of "paradigm shift" in a non-joking manner. : OverloadUT
• Luckeeeeeee :( : freak!
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  if i could make it so that any time somebody uses the phrase paradigm shift in a non-joking manner would ... : [fry]
  • I think migrating away from Notes is an appropriate time to use it. Shifting away from the traditional... : peanut-
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  The funny part is that one of the early architects of Notes is the current Chief Software Architect at Mi... : the archvile
  • Yes, that worries the shit out of me. : nudel
• Is it PwC? Please let it be PwC. : Sailor of Fortune
• Is it at least Exchange 2007? ;) : chiisu81
• Paradigm shift? Really? : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  I'm convinced that every executive uses http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html at least once in all of the... : the archvile
  • bookmark'd. this is brilliant :D : moe6

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  Also - do I need to manually collect shit off the dead bodies or does it happen automatically when I fini... : MagicWishMonkey
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    happens automatically : retardhumper
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      Sweet, I noticed I had a bunch of plasma rifles but I couldn't see a way to put them on my troop ship or ... : MagicWishMonkey
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        Did you research them yet? Also, I'd personally skip plasma pistols and plasma rifles. They're okay, b... : Rice-Rocketeer
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          (It'll also get you a FUCKTON of money if you sell the plasma rifles and pistols.) : Rice-Rocketeer
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            In fact, I'd have to say that laser rifles are probably one of my favourite weapons due to the fact that ... : Rice-Rocketeer
            • Yea I used laser rifles a lot my last game and they worked really well. : MagicWishMonkey
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              Agreed, laser rifles are just so freaking awesome. I always use them on burst fire and spam the crap out... : Aragoat
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                I always like the power and armor penetration of the heavy plasma. Once your troops get experienced a si... : hussdelrio
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                  Yeah you need that stopping power later on. Lasers do have the cool animation though. : bolneze
                  • Yeah, sorry, I should have said that I switch to heavy plasma once my lasers start sucking. But I really... : Aragoat
          • Oh badass, I didn't do heavy plasma last time around, I'll focus on that this time. : MagicWishMonkey
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  no you don't NEED to, but you will get more points if you do and more shit to sell : retardhumper
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    Yea, sometimes I just really don't feel like clearing another crash site (more than one in a single day i... : MagicWishMonkey
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      Stats increase by clearing sites : bolneze
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        stats increase by just generally doing things, actually : Majuju
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          and NOT doing things too! http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?title=Scoring : hussdelrio
          • this has nothing to do with soldier attribute growth! : Majuju
        • By things you mean missions right? Soldier stats only increase if theyre out on missions (or the psi trai... : bolneze
• You get more rating if you do but I THINK you get some for just shooting : bolneze
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  If you want to be successful and roll in the cash, then yes clear the crash site. Save civilians. : hussdelrio
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    There are no civilians on crash site missions! : Majuju
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      Yes there can be! : hussdelrio
      • Absolutely, 100% not >:( : Majuju
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        Nope. Youre thinking of terror missions. : bolneze
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          Maybe I'm thinking of TFTD. I distinctly remember shooting down a craft and having civilians be there. : hussdelrio
          • underwater, huh? : zerog83
• those are some of the most rewarding and easy missions. i wouldn't ignore them. : Psigun
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  I have a vague memory that if you don't, your sponsor states will get pissed at you and the alien level (... : Aragoat
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    agreed, and hopefully its the mind control dudes. But then again, the infection ones suck as well. : JuffoWup
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      Chrysalids scare the crap out of me. :-( I don't even bother trying to save the civilians. I just hope ... : Aragoat
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        I just had to fight some floaters, wtf they kept disappearing and shit. I ended up running back to my shi... : MagicWishMonkey
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          Floaters can be real bastards and will fly up in to the sky and hide on the roof/out of LOS of your guys.... : Aragoat
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            I thought there was a bug, the fuckers would pop in when it was their turn to move and shoot 3-4 shots at... : MagicWishMonkey
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              Just click on the glowy numbered boxes to center the camera on aliens your dudes can see. : bolneze
              • Oh awesome, I didn't realize you could do that. Sweet! : MagicWishMonkey
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          Reminds me of that terror mission tutorial that was posted here : bolneze
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            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WziO005uM3g Fuck those lobster men. : Haxim
            • lol that's awesome : zerog83
            • Hahahaha, love it! : Aragoat
            • Haha thats the one : bolneze
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        The brain reskin for TFTD was scary :[ : bolneze
        • Yeah, I had nightmares with it :( : Nitrium
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  Why isn't there a remake of this game? ARFGGGHHHHHH : DM7
  • The original still holds up pretty well, one of these days I'll actually beat this damned thing. Even on ... : MagicWishMonkey
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    Ive been waiting since TFTD :[ : bolneze
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      I had fun taking out buildings in Apocalypse. : lolpatrol
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        That game had the worst ending. It was so bad it was funny. : DM7
        • "We kicked their ass!" : Wikus Van De Merwe
      • I keep trying Apocalypse but I always get so confused in the first mission and quit. :-( I also tried I... : Aragoat
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  your end of month rating is based off "points" which it shows you at the end. The only minus points you g... : deadfish
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    Hmmm, I had no idea where those point totals were coming from. Do you lose points if UFO's are flying aro... : MagicWishMonkey
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      The scoring link posted above has the points the alients will get ( http://www.ufopaedia.org/index.php?ti... : Aragoat
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        hah, yea I've learned the hard way not to let them land and screw with people. I didn't realize what was ... : MagicWishMonkey
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          if you want the best score possible and the most money possible you should be doing all of them : sposh
          • Yea that's what I'm doing now. : MagicWishMonkey
      • They do have an error on that site. It is quite possible to destroy a battleship without using a game edi... : Chod
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      yes it's by seconds the UFO is flying around. you can counter it by flying your interceptors or whatever ... : deadfish
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        Fuck some asshole just landed and took off before my troops could get there. Goddamnit. : MagicWishMonkey
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          have a base that makes nothing but tank laser cannons. It's 90k profit each (i think) and can defend itse... : deadfish
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            Cool, I'll do that with my next base. Still in the initial stages right now (it's not February yet), but ... : MagicWishMonkey
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              one of the biggest things is being selective of your soldiers. They're utterly random as you get em and i... : deadfish
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                Yea I tried that last time without hiring new ones (just used the 4 good ones) and it didn't work out tha... : MagicWishMonkey
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                  I think bravery is the most important attribute. All other attributes (excepting psi which you can't see... : Aragoat
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                    Cool, that should definitely help with the "omg i'm scared and running away" problem. Fucking pussyman2! : MagicWishMonkey
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                      Hahahaha, I never named my characters (apart from when a group of friends and I all used the same names i... : Aragoat
                      • lol, I have to name them or I can't tell them apart, I try to keep it somewhat relevant though, like Gunn... : MagicWishMonkey
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                      Bravery is extremely important because bravery usually correlates very closely with Psi power which you c... : Chod
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                        I haven't reached the point where they even talk about Psi power yet, I've had my ass handed to me pretty... : MagicWishMonkey
                        • I was usually getting owned by the time that showed up in game. You really have to make an effort to capt... : bolneze
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                  accuracy, strength, and time units were my primary concerns : deadfish
                  • Ok cool, I'll try to keep those in mind. Definitely can't let bravery get too low though because it pisse... : MagicWishMonkey