Morning Squidussion

by Alice O'Connor, Jul 14, 2009 6:50am PDT

There's a special chipper energy floating around the Shacknews virtual office this morning, the kind of energy that can only be channelled through cephalopods.

Squid and octopodes are of course the stars of the class, and even cuttlefish get a little screen time, but the poor nautilus is all too often forgotten. Few believe she was in that graduating class all those millions of years ago as her classmates have changed so much since then, but she was there alright. Secured tight inside a beautiful shell, with cold uncaring eyes and dozens of tentacles, she's my kind of cephalopod.

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3D CSS... Wow.
http://www.satine.org/archives/2009/07/11/snow-stack-is-here/

Is there really any need for flash when we can start doing this kind of stuff without it? Ok I'm sure this can't do everything flash does, but still...

Jul 14, 2009 4:12pm PDT

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3D CSS... Wow. http://www.satine.org/archives/2009/07/11/snow-stack-is-here/ Is there really any need... : SqueegyTBS
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  that looks a lot like an old image browser plugin for firefox. i forget what it was called. : dopeman
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    It's called Cooliris now : Barnahog
    - first thing I thought of too : Slowtreme
- Fuck Adobe : thecatinthehat
- now we can view all our images at angles, awesome : GloriousCow
- is that only Safari/Chrome? : cpt_gloval
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  Hopefully the next round of standardization will bring us lots of things we can use to distance ourselves... : Danny5225
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    Isn't all of YouTube h.264 now because of the iPhone? : pancake humper
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      Yeah, that's the way it appears. Mrmm. Wish I knew how that stuff was handled in Flash. Does Flash perfor... : Danny5225
      
      Flash performs the decode. It does not use the system's decoder. This is both a pro and a con -- you ar... : electroly
  - my guess is h264 will eventually come out the winner, if only because 1) youtube already does h264 and 2)... : zakk
- can we get rid of flash soon? : WhatIsThisFor
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  I ready the first 2 lines and thought it was about Counterstrike and it made me curious. : Phreakin
  - css should be reserved for counter-strike. (source) : Fish_Bulb
- not if IE doesn't support this stuff. also I'm not entirely sure how this new CSS stuff works but Flash ... : mikecyb
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  I can't wait until sites like amazon and youtube stop supporting ie. Thats the only way its going to lose... : not work safe
  - http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/07/14/youtube-will-be-next-to-kiss-ie6-support-goodbye/ : electroly
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  How is the development/debugging experience for something like that compared to Flash/Silverlight? : derelict515
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    Flash/Flex/Silverlight are all pretty easy to work with, even the worst (Flash) is 10000x better than wor... : MagicWishMonkey
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      that's what I thought : derelict515
      
      yea it's going to be a long long time before we'll be able to ditch Flash for pure JavaScript/CSS... it s... : MagicWishMonkey
    - yeah Javascript's main downfall is that it's ridiculous to debug : mikecyb
- HTML5 + associated standards are designed to replace flash as far as I understand it. : terath
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  Flash isn't going anywhere. Developers love it. And the developers who don't love it are just people who ... : haiku
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    ^^^ exactly.
    
    And the decision makers are always going to go with the most cost effective solution. Why pay someone to spend 40 hours doing something in JS that can be done in 5 with Flash?
    
    Jul 14, 2009 5:15pm PDT
    
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    ^^^ exactly. And the decision makers are always going to go with the most cost effective solution. Why... : MagicWishMonkey
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      Because the guy who does it in Flash costs a lot more, and every time you want to make a change to it, yo... : BlackCat9
      
      Doing anything reasonably complex with javascript will require the same amount of skill as updating an ex... : MagicWishMonkey
      
      I don't know Flash but that's definitely not true of Silverlight if it's properly designed. Given all the... : derelict515
      
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      My guess is you don't know flash, or haven't worked with it very much because what you're saying is real... : haiku
      
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      When I learned it, Flash MX had just come out. I know that proper Flash design will separate the Actionsc... : BlackCat9
      
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      hahaha so you are faulting the technology for your own company's stupidity? we contract out Flash stuff ... : mikecyb
      
      I fault the technology for me having to work around my company's stupidity. We're trying to move as much ... : BlackCat9
      
      Yeah, BlackCat9 you might want to start looking for a new gig because there is no way a company with such... : haiku
      
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      Dude ditch your flash guy and hire me, I'll do all your shit faster, better, and cheaper than he can :) : MagicWishMonkey
      
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      You don't want to work with a company like that. : haiku
      
      That's true, I'm looking for more contract work now so one-off Flash projects are always nice but it soun... : MagicWishMonkey
      
      He's right, you don't want to work for us. At least, not if you have to talk to our marketing department ... : BlackCat9
      
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      also your point about being able to change things is silly. our web producer, who isn't a programmer at ... : mikecyb
      
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      ActionScript is Javascript with a really nice object oriented framework and user-friendly editor. He shou... : BlackCat9
      
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      You're thinking of AS1. AS2 and AS3 (which are in far more use than AS1) is more like Java. It is a true ... : haiku
      
      AS3 is an awesome language, I wish the Flash was as easy to debug as Flex though :( : MagicWishMonkey
      
      electroly, stop [lol]ing my posts! : BlackCat9
      
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      what? why are you contracting Flash and not getting the source? : mikecyb
      
      Man, that's like the least of the problems this company has. I've been there a year and a half and I'm st... : BlackCat9
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  Anyone knows what the beat in that song? It makes want to become a hip hip rapper : Utopia
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    Once again I find what I need 2 secs after posting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiM4IPuqvN0&feature... : Utopia
    - Interesting that song is almost exactly like Loud Pipes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64liF2VuLxI : Chod
  - I hate when people use songs and don't give credit. :( : ThomW
- Theres been a FF plugin for this for a while now I believe: http://www.cooliris.com/ : Cygnus X-1
- flash is used for a lot more than just websites : synapse19
- Oh something we wont see standard in all browsers for like another decade because half the planet will st... : Chod
- are there any plans for web browsers to support stuff like XMPP natively? not just xmpp, but having direc... : epit

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