Evening Faylure

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  It's out, or is that beta? : Wombat Woo
  • closed beta weekend. Like 500 keys were avail late Thursday night. : Skoal^Fyfan
• Is it any good? : Jonathan
• fabulous : GloriousCow
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  Wow that game looks horrid, I thought it was supposed to be in Crytek's engine? : kpxkrnjc
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    looks better than wow : GloriousCow
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      No actually, it most certainly does not : kpxkrnjc
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        No, actually, it certainly does. Also, I am rubber, you are glue. : GloriousCow
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          Or you're BLIND. Did you look at that screenshot? It looks as good as Guild Wars with the graphics slid... : kpxkrnjc
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            keep your undies on chief : GloriousCow
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              I'm not upset, I'm just correcting the misinformed : kpxkrnjc
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                does that job come with tights? : GloriousCow
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                  Only if there are tears involved : kpxkrnjc
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                    this game looks exactly like WoW, i don't know what you guys are arguing over lol : DrFlammable
                    • Yep, looks pretty much the same. : the_burd
          • Considering I was probably using this same Video Card when Guild Wars came out, I'm not surprised. : Slowtreme
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      No it doesn't. : mrvandelay
      • poopy head :( : GloriousCow
    • I haven't played WoW, but based on screenshots it doesn't look any better. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Not really. : pigvomit
    • HURRRRRRR WOW LOOKS LIKE CRAP IT'S NOT LIKE THEY'VE EVER UPDATED IT : electroly
    • lol : halophoenix
    • The graphics are much nicer than WoWs. the art style sucks, though. The screenshot looks like shit. Yo... : valael
    • I thought that was WoW, shows what I know : tunis5000
  • I'm playing on a 7900 with 256 ram. This game is much better looking than wow. Don't take my screenshot a... : Slowtreme
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    It still has a cartoonly look but it has a lot more detail than wow imho. But since it's an MMO they c... : Topaz
    • They use instancing so zones done get overcrowded. It kinda sucks but whatever : Slowtreme
    • Yeah, but it still looks great. Pretty amazing how well it runs, even with a ton of people running aroun... : valael
  • Yes, CryENGINE 1. The same Far Cry was done with. : vx2o
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  I can't get the game to run. When it launches I get some error message that's in all gibberish. : skinlab133
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    Are you running a 64 bit OS? There was a fix posted on the Betaboards. It's a bug in the GameGangBa... : cerealSAM2
    • This Anti-cheat software (besides being bugged on 64bit) is freaking stupid. It kills MSN and my brows... : Slowtreme
    • Yes, I am. I already uninstalled it, damn it. : skinlab133
• Looks like warhammer, I hope it doesn't play like warhammer. : dysfunctional
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  I'm intrigued, but NCSoft has a well, less than stellar record. : Perturbation
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    after playing the lineage 2 beta I'm reluctant to try this. It was interesting tho. : AMikaboshi
    • From my limited experience with the Chinese AION beta it seems like they took a lot of things from WoW, l... : yemeth
    • I remember the lineage 2 beta. The entire game felt like they spent more time on the breast jiggling anim... : halophoenix
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  Shy - shows off a spectacular amount of faggotry. : Draugluin
  • I wasn't sure if this games chat system was robust, so I picked one of the short names I use sometimes : Slowtreme
• I played a bit this weekend, it's alright for what it is - just a solid mmo with a lot of grinding. To... : shortbuscaptain
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  Oh god, it's just like every other freakin' elfy-dwarfy mmorpg out there. A freakin' used spellboo : cerealSAM2
  • :( TIGER PIGS : cerealSAM2
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    Here is a generic fantasy MMO screenshot with my latest adventures... http://www.shackpics.com/files/ : ghost in my shell
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      I'm psyched for the sequel but I'm worried that they will clone WoW. AKA remove the focus on group mecha... : Wombat Woo
      • You mean make it playable and fun? I guess that would suck...or not. FFXI is the least user-friendly M... : Vincent Grayson
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      is that a tail? : GloriousCow
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        Yes, the tail gives me +3 agi. : ghost in my shell
        • it gives you +8 sexy : GloriousCow
    • what a horrid gaming experience. : packav
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    Tiger Pig: http://www.shackpics.com/files/Aion0053_amscp9n9yze6f1fme0rq.jpg : cerealSAM2
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      MMO makers need to pick some better fucking fonts. LOTRO pulled this same crap. Verdana in a fantasy RP : electroly
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        i'm ok with legibility : Slowtreme
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          What an excellent strawman argument! There are plenty of typefaces that are both stylistically appropria... : electroly
          • I don't equate Stylistic fonts with Legibility : Slowtreme
  • they seem to have only 1 lvl of currency. so things start to ramp up quickly. : Slowtreme
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  Does it 0wn or what? : CrustaR
  • It's hiding a large potion of the game from us. Notably there is only one race to choose from, and we can... : Slowtreme
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  I've never played wow but that looks exactly like it. : mnsnota
  • not even a little. : rmjackson
• This looks like every horrible Korean MMO ever. : Link.
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  I haven't, so obviously I don't really know what I'm talking about, but it looks like every other MMORPG ... : AlexXdude
  • I haven't played* : AlexXdude
• Final Pics as I logged off the beta I won a BLUE Ring http://www.shackpics.com/files/Aion0003_62d7p9rv... : Slowtreme

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  50 miles for a burger? I'd like to see it but the first pic won't load. www.shackpics.com : pyide
  • 25 miles is roundtrip. I had to take a while off riding so I'm just getting back into it and starting wit... : tashtego
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    oh and pic was from iphone- that's whatever service tweetie uploads to : tashtego
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      http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=burger_oinhrgohapfopidemluw.jpg : tashtego
      • Thanks! Looks disgustingly delicious. : pyide
• Five Guys is fucking awesome! : jimvolk
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  Don't know if you noticed but there's always a wall with postcards where people can leave messages. One ... : Wolfanoz
  • Haha, I've thought about leaving such a message at the Five Guys near me. I can't remember if I ever did... : Arcanum
  • There were about twenty of those up. Not very creative customers! : tashtego
  • Saw the same message at the one near me in Boynton Beach, FL. : zuga
• life ain't nothin' but a funny funny riddle... : Cihte
• it's pretty decent for a fast food joint.. i usually just do grilled onions, mushrooms, jalapenos, bacon ... : wetard
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  DUDE I FOUND OUT THERE'S FIVE GUYS' IN CHICAGOLAND NOW AND THERE'S ONE NEAR ME AND I'M GOING TOMORROW WHA... : Deathlove
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    five guys in your mouth olollololololollolololo : tashtego
    • oh i get it it is like oral sex on men but seriously just like "cheeseburger" or how do i do this : Deathlove
    • and all over your face : snuff
  • Oh man... Gonna have to go try it. : randomjgj
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    They're just starting to open Sonics around here too : jingletard
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      And we're getting a Chik-Fil-A too! : Deathlove
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        Thank whatever god you worship.. Chick-Fil-A is in the holy triumverate of chicken fast food with Zaxby's... : icking fudiot
        • 4 Chick Fil A in the whole county...not that great odds for something half the size of Maryland. : Caoster007
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    Word of warning: You don't want the large fries. You want the regular fries, and you probably won't eve... : Arcanum
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      truth : megarust32
      • Their "large" fries are a meal and a half unto themselves. : Arcanum
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    it's decent but i thought it was way overrated. as far as "fast food" goes its probably the best burger ... : kill9
    • or in n out : the city
    • well since i'm like 40 miles away from goose island >:( : Deathlove
• Now I want Five Guys. :D : halophoenix
• when I lived outside of town, there was a five guys in the next town over. Now that I'm in Cambridge, my ... : Cheeziologist
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  I went there two weekends ago (to the very first one) : gmd
  • Didn't they close the first one over off Glebe Rd? I remember there were 5 at one point, before they st... : loboVT
• had it for lunch yesterday, freaking awesome. cajun fries ftw. : opengl128
• There's one that is close, but a little farther than other places. Went once, it was good but not amazin... : Freon
• Filtersweep is such a loser. He lives like 3 miles from one but he's a meat hater so he would never eat t... : sigpro
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  IT'S FUCKING LAME. They opened two here recently. It's nine and a half bucks for a serve-yourself ad... : cerealSAM2
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    Maybe yours just sucks? I was in and out (get it in-n-out) in five minutes : tashtego
    • They were pretty new. The whole thing screams fast food ambiance, but it's not fast at all. : cerealSAM2
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    The burger is good, but their fries are amazing. : Arcanum
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      like the opposite of in-n-out : chrisschutz
      • animal style fries at in n out are gods gift to mankind : the city
• Def one of the best fast food burgers possible. Honestly it's better than most pub burgers too as far as ... : zakazi

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• The third movie is rather entertaining. : baron calamity
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  Take the rave out of number 2 (which I have done mentally anyways) and it's not that bad until they leave : Lunatic Angelic
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    What about orgasmo cake? : baron calamity
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      I still think that was an amusing introduction to an Oracle-esque / fallen Neo who failed in the past and : Lunatic Angelic
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        Wait he was a fallen neo? Figuring out the plot in the last two movies was like snorkeling through a dar... : IHATEDUST
        • It's not confirmed or a fact or anything, just a theory. However: Misconception III: The Merovingian i : Modica Sol Solis
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      One of the best scenes in the trilogy, as it illustrates exactly what the parameters are of the Matrix. T... : Modica Sol Solis
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        I thought it was more about decadence, and the petty uses of power in the hands of those who have it. : Toth21
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          It is. But that's what expands the Matrix for me. You see Neo and his ilk doing all these crazy heroic th : Modica Sol Solis
          • Ok on that we agree. : Toth21
  • ^this : sKetchflow
  • Take the highway scene out and there's nothing good, either. : nudel
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    The rave... lol I love it when people call it that. : Toth21
    • Yep, raving is serious business : quadeh
  • I think number 2 had some cool ideas but aside from the highway scene they were implemented pretty terrib... : datoo
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    fucking rave dancing barefoot monkeys on mud scene and what about Monica Bellucci wanting a kiss? is t... : ErneX
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      Again, the kiss and the entire Merovingian scene was superb. ...This theme is continued in the second : Modica Sol Solis
      • Yup, and Persephone clearly takes that to the extreme, in fact she almost comes off as a parallel to the ... : Toth21
• Coincidentally I tried watching this last night and couldn't stand it. : Fish_Bulb
• I watched The Ultimate Matrix Collection a while ago and had a blast doing so. http://en.wikipedia.org... : humbleone
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  They were never bad movies, all the nerd rage about that was pretty annoying. : nukewinter
  • Of course all the nerd love for the first one was also annoying : zakazi
  • Agreed : nomaad
  • lol they fucking sucked donkey balls and even then we had fans telling everyone that the symbolism and th... : Hoax
• Oh yes it is. : Dr_Cube
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  Horrible sequels. The Animatrix were better than them. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Totally agree. I've rewatched that more that the second movie. Probably more that the third. : baron calamity
  • Ya, and it's a shame, because they showed there's potential for lots of cool stories in the setting. The ... : node
  • God yes. I wish they had made full length versions of those. : Fred Garvin
• and it's not really good either. : CrimsonHandHiro
• ha! : NastyJack
• wtf, watched this too over the weekend.. must be a Shackpsych thing.. Ending is still shit.. - wtf's ... : Kolpath
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  lol : abrasion
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    we need cords verdict. you cant judge a shitty movie without having his approval. : Hoax
    • i loved it. : CoRDS
• Whenever the films take place in Xenon is when I want to fall asleep. Otherwise, all is good. : freakynipples69
• They weren't bad at all. I never got the hate. So they weren't the first one; nothing was going to live u... : MaJeStu
• the sequels were all fucking great you fucking heathens! : fsck
• just watching matrix revolutions again. and it's still not really bad. Fixed that for you. : Fred Garvin

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• Expect to come home with more than one bruise! : Ellissd
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  Yes it hurts to get hit with the paintballs. Its what makes it fun though too! : chilln
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    How many classic Vietnam movie scenes am I allowed to recreate while playing? : notd665
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      make sure on the final round, you kneel down, scream and lift your arms in the air...in slow motion....th... : choppp
      • If you do that, you will get shot so np. : [7]kami
• Don't get shot in the nuts. But shoot other people in the nuts. That's all you need to know really. : NastyJack
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  Don't be surprised by the people with $1000 markers and big egos. But ignore them and you'll have a lot o... : hoov1185
  • also yeah, this. : choppp
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    Do you think being an expert first-person shooter player will help me at all? I feel like I'll be a lot b... : notd665
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      Actually, it does give you help in identifying likely ambush spots, useful cover, and Arcs of Fire/Visio... : AxeMan808
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        Pro-Tip: Strafe-jumping doesn't work well in real life. : Wyvern
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          also pulling a Rambo is a bad idea : peter
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            We had an idiot do that. The conversation went a little like this. Idiot: OK, I think there is only on : Wyvern
            • LEEEEERRRRROOOOYYYYYYYYY JENKINS! : hawkeye
    • yea man. i think my fps skills, particularly cs, directly translated to tournament paintball, or maybe i... : spector
  • It's hard to ignore them when they're sending a stream of paintballs into your face. : FlatlineDixay
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    Yea when I first started I rocked a little pgp pistol against big scrims where guys had atuocockers and a... : shortbuscaptain
    • i read this as: rocket jumped a little pgp pistol. rofl. : chilln
    • Haha yeah. I have a Spyder Compact 2000. I put a Venturi bolt and 18" tear drop barrel on it, and I get c... : hoov1185
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  Also, what the fuck am I suppose to wear? : notd665
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    Long pants and a t-shirt. And a mask. : hoov1185
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      Surely he'd want a full length shirt for mild protection. : abrasion
      • That's what the mask is for. : hoov1185
      • depending on where he lives, might be damn hot at this time. : StolenNosferatu
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      Dude. Jeans, Sweat/Rugby/Flannel Shirt (something of heavy material with long sleeves), goggles, mask, bo... : AxeMan808
      • Shorts would be sufficient but I only recommended pants because I figure he'll be diving around. You d... : hoov1185
      • You definitely want gloves. Getting hit in the fingers, especially the knuckles, hurts like a motherfucke... : SockMonkeh
  • A cup : Phreakin
  • also bring gloves... : miasma(&)
  • face (especially eye), neck, and junk protection. face/neck is most important. : Supine
  • Bright Orange! : Mrc32
  • http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/thumb/b/b5/Stormtrooper_armour.jpg/250px-Stormtrooper_a... : g0nk
  • They supply overalls at the place I go to and I only wear shorts and a singlet cause I'm hardcore as it i... : Goblin au
  • Neon pink jumpsuit. : Ride-My-Rocket
• Expect sore legs. : pigvomit
• go with a few good friends, is all i can say. my first time was with a big group. not very fun. haven't g... : StolenNosferatu
• head shot time! : peter
• Getting shot in the neck is the best! We actually went with a modified potato gun once. Shot a handful of... : Wyvern
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  Don't get shot in the nuts, hahaha!! : CrustaR
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    I once accidentally shot this kid in the nuts (he was on my own team, too). I felt so bad about it, but ... : CrustaR
    • hahahahaha, deep down you were giggling. : choppp
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  don't get hit on the top of the head at close range, it fucking hurts. : red2lucas
  • or in the throat, you won't be able to breathe for ~10 seconds. : Ride-My-Rocket
• Also, never take your mask off on the field! We had a group of us playing and I was going at it with ... : hoov1185
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  Wear a cup : maulla
  • This and kneepads / elbowpads. : LilCrypto
• If I have a choice of equipment (renting, obviously) what do you guys recommend? : notd665
• You will want knee pads. You don't need them, but if you want to slide, and you will want to slide, yo... : fleabug
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  PAIN : oldschoolbob-o
  • ^^ this, all over your body. Not just from getting pelted, but also general fatigue all over your body f... : the archvile
  • giant welts http://asktherelic.com/shack/paintball_2.jpg : askedrelic
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    pain in paintball is way overrated. after you play awhile you stop feeling it unless its a really bad one... : spector
    • ^^^This. Depending on how far away they are, they really don't hurt at all, a little sting. You're full o... : cyclonebee
    • until you get tagged on the knuckle/hand by a 3shot burst from 10 feet away and you aren't wearing gloves : maulla
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  WEAR A CUP} It's been said several times but it's so fucking important, I know from personal experience. ... : boarder2
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    I fail, the pain of my nut being black and blue impedes my typing ability : boarder2
    • serious blue balls? : retardhumper
• Expect to be shot to pieces by lonely old men that spray automatic paintball spam across the battlefield. : jigstah
• be as aggressive you can but dont move when someone is shooting at you : spector
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  expect not to be able to walk for a few days from all the squatting. Aside from that, just take cover and... : heff
  • this, it's a hell of a quad workout. : xxiv
• are you playing just with friends in an open field or going to an actual paintball arena/field? : maulla
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  didn't read the replies, just glanced...but wear a cup is the only important thing here. you will get ... : xxiv
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    shoot him in the leg!!! it's him or you!! : kpxkrnjc
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      pretty sure close shots are grounds for a stern warning (similar to taking your mask off) and at the disc... : xxiv
      • at the place i played at last, we always had to yell SURRENDER!! at the person who was close. if they did... : busdriver3030
• I got headshotted in my first paintball match. It JUST missed the mask and whacked me right on the side o : moe6
• Everybody says to wear a cup - and you should - but lots of people forget to remind you to wear SOMETHING... : Teiresias
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  http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=12974780 : EqualsP
  • 7. don't go into the same bunker as someone else! That will get you (and the other person) 0wned quickly... : CrustaR
• Take it like a man, if by any chance, someone shoots at the ground and the paintball doesn't burst but it... : Darkfox76

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• That's pretty impressive. : ventro
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  The BNP managed to get a seat also. I didn't even bother to vote. I don't see the point. The politicia... : theghostofsmdever
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    The BNP are seriously the most fucking retarted party ever. How on earth did they get enough votes to get... : g0rmanat0r
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      Explain them to an American? : pres589
      • They want to remove all the non-white people from Britain, and send them back to their original countries... : g0rmanat0r
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        Looks like they're a whites-only party whose platform is agressively anti-immigration and anti-Israel. No... : BlackCat9
        • Uh, wow. I don't have anything to say. : Link.
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          Wow. And people actually vote for them? Oh humanity. : Edges
          • Unfortunately fucked up immigration policies in the UK leave a lot of people mad. Then they come along an... : mactu
      • They're the UKKK : geedeck
      • Among the explanation of their party, you should also understand that many European elections are based t... : ejectorpod
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      well people aren't exactly happy with the two major parties in the UK at the moment. : aeg1x
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        The thing is, people voting BNP didn't just turn racist. They must've always been racist and either alway... : nudel
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          Labout aren't THAT bad, they just need a period in opposition to renew themselves. What we're seeing now ... : jcupitt
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            Labour helped kill 1m+ people and had a string of fascist home secretaries, shat all over our civil liber... : nudel
            • Seriously fuck Labour. Hard. : tohm82
    • Mmmm, fresh warm retart. : Kaerof
  • I vodetd just to keep the racists out of the parliment. The swedish party SDK (racist narrowminded idiots... : Tissen
  • I voted to try to keep the BNP out. They didn't get enough %age in my area, so I guess it was worthwhile. : jcupitt
  • From what I am reading there were quite a few anti-immigration people elected across Europe yesterday. : Crimsonbeak
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  Fascinating. I doubt in the US they could get a strong turnout. IP is less much of populist concern. : hbalce1
  • not really that, it's that one-issue fringe parties have no practical shot at Congress : RikiTiki2
• hahaha. score : AMikaboshi
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  I wish I voted. :( Threw the damn thing away when it was in the mail. Fuck. : madspacemarinemustdie
  • In Sweden at least, you only needed your ID card to vote on Sunday. : woddemandred
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  is this after they serve their prison terms? : RikiTiki2
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    It's Sweden, I don't think they'll actually make them serve time. : daedraug
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      what does sweden do to those found guilty of crimes then? : RikiTiki2
      • they give you a job : Penis Brittle
      • it becomes their turn to stir the meatballs : proclone1
      • You get a government job. : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • Money and free TV. : -efx-
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        IKEA labour camps : d fluke
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          Your sole possession is a metric allen wrench. : fishbone
          • Pretty sure that would be a violation of the Geneva Convention :( : hawkeye
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    the people who run the site aren't the same people who run the political party : aeg1x
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      and I don't think they're even officially affiliated : aeg1x
      • ^^ This. : evildanish
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  I find it pretty hard to love them :( : s2jason
  • i'm with you, but johnny depp made pirates cool again : RikiTiki2
  • they're the natural reaction to the idiocy of digital rights law. While you wouldn't want them running th... : aeg1x
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  Is the Pirate Party affiliated with Pirate Bay? : spiderfill
  • yup : greh kleh
  • Inspired perhaps. : dognose
  • No. They obviously share some opinions, but there is no official affiliation and never has been. : evildanish
  • No, no they're not. affiliated in ideology perhaps but they're not the same. : -efx-
  • maybe! : abrasion
  • no : SilverSnake
  • No, they're Somalians. : [7]kami
  • yaaaaarrrrr : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Cool. Sweden got 2 Pirates into the EP. Meanwhile the UK got 2 racists elected >:( : losimagic
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    Fuck that is depressing. I read their page on the local elections leaflet once, and it basically says "We... : node
    • It's fucking lol listening to dimbleby and humphries trying to interview nick griffin, they have absolute... : jcupitt
  • did everyone just not vote or something and let the crazies pick? we did that twice with Bush. : thebigbeefsandwich
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  How can they be for the freedom of information and the abolition of copyright and IP, yet be for privacy?... : pigvomit
  • Hackers and pirates are not the same thing. : spectr3
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    They are not for abolition of copyright or IP. They are arguing that personal, non-commercial copying sho... : evildanish
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      I think they want more reasonable limits on copyright too, so no crazy extensions or actions by the conte... : Beady
      • Oh yeah, they are completely anti-DRM. : evildanish
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        Yeah, they want to reduce the copyright on music, books, movies and stuff from the crazy 95 years (or wha... : SilverSnake
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          yeah the massive time frame that is in place at the moment is so stupid : aeg1x
          • The current length is Artist Life + 95 years (to keep Micky Mouse under protection). Copyrights originall : LoioshDwaggie
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      That's pretyt much the same thing. If all your consumers have legal rights to get your product for free, ... : uncleanmonkey
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        Sure you can. Artists would still get compensation for radio airplay, use on TV, commercials, movies etc.... : evildanish
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          That's fine and dandy for musicians big enough to fill arenas : RikiTiki2
          • Goes for everyone. Your CD won't be pirated if no-one is buying it in the first place. Famed book publ... : evildanish
        • I see NIN releasing under the CC more as a combination of them: a) Giving up the battle against piracy... : nudel
        • So what's the incentive to give anyone a copy of the music in the first place then? If the're just going ... : uncleanmonkey
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  They'll most likely join the Liberal or Green group in parliament. Considering the alternative that th... : woddemandred
  • I would also like to congratulate Sweden on it's choice of fringe nutter party. So much better than the U... : jcupitt
• They fucking suck. They're the party of stupid and immature adolescents who can't even stop to think for ... : uncleanmonkey
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  I heard on NPR that Europe overwhelmingly voted for the right wingers. And looks like BBC confirmed it... : stgdz
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    Yeah I believe Europe in general has its political spectrum centered more to the left of the US. : Evil Benius
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      Lots of anti-EU, anti-immigration nationalists were elected too. : evildanish
      • I keep telling myself that if the UN can survive this dickhead -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_R._Bo... : nudel
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    far right wing EU style = authoritarian, controlled economy; fascists basically : Toraz Chryx
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      So Toraz what do these results really mean though? I imagine we will see more anti immigration stuff bei... : stgdz
      • I'm not Toraz, but IMO there won't be much change. The centre-right were the majority before, and they st... : jcupitt
• I love torrentfreak but they do link to some of the "unmentionables" so here's the news on BBC http://ne... : gakera

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  It's not really 62% taxes. He's taking less because he's taking a lump-sum payment. : yoonix
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    Hmm, I wonder which is more financially sound... lump sump or payments? You have more buying power and c... : phipple
    • I'd imagine that lump sum would be more financially found if you have any level of financial responsibili... : yoonix
    • over 30 years or until he dies. There is no reason to take the payments. Lump sum would win in every scen... : kevp
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      Lump sum is almost always the better option. I mean even if he just takes out half of the interest each y... : uncleanmonkey
      • Where are the 5% interest accounts these days? : freqq28
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      I would say payments is better financially, because inflation could decrease the value of a lump-sum payo... : Maddog_Delphi97
      • huh? It's the opposite. With a lump sum you can get enough interest to stay ahead of inflation. Not only ... : sanchez
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        If you die before you finish getting paid, the state keeps the rest of the money, it doesn't go to descen... : umcpwintermute
        • ^^^ This. Plus the huge cut in taking a lump sum payment is the taxes the lottery states have to pay to... : theargent
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      I actually read an article a few years ago talking about how you are better off taking the payout. The r... : DogDharma
      • well i found it, it was on powerball.com lol here is the text CASH VS. ANNUITY - MY FINANCIAL EXPERT S... : DogDharma
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  Lump Sum is roughly 50% of the total jackpot(normally paid out over 20 years) and the taxes are then take... : Crimsonbeak
  • Ok, that makes sense then. : hobosapien
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  Isn't there some choice whether to take like 70% of the winnings in a lump sum or get 100% of the winning... : .Jayson
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    its supposedly still better to take the lump sum and invest it : GloriousCow
    • I would take the lump sum as well. Its not really a windfall if you are waiting for your check the n... : .Jayson
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      A 2% annual return on investment on $88 million is $1.7m per year. : silent prophet
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        if you are only earning 2% on your 88 million then you are really doing something wrong. : boofy
        • I think he's just trying to illustrate how the lump sum will win. There's basically no way you would get ... : ieGod
• Hardly worth it then is it :/ : dognose
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  why take the lump sum? Before taxes is still over $10mil a year, isnt it? : maulla
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    If you're smart, you'll take a lump sum, go to a financial advisor and invest it for the long-term. Espec... : yoonix
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      Well, he was playing the lottery so.... : alias
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        That makes him smarter than pretty much every person on the planet, at this point. : Ride-My-Rocket
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          Despite him winning, no it does not. The expected value of playing the lottery is always negative. : ieGod
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            Not always! A few weeks ago here in the UK it a £2 ticket had something like £3.5 expected value due to... : uncleanmonkey
            • However, according to the Kelly criterion ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_criterion ) You pretty mu... : uncleanmonkey
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            wrong. it is a bad idea to bank your future on it, but if you enjoy the thrill of playing in addition to ... : d0pamine
            • Although I was speaking purely in terms of finance, I disagree. You shouldn't ever expect to win money fr... : ieGod
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        Eh, I'm not dumb, but I sometimes buy tickets when I get bored. I won 700 bucks off some scratch-off once... : yoonix
        • I won a 1998 Isuzu Rodeo in a raffle, which helped put me through my last year of college. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • because you risk they will stop paying you in 20 or 30 years or whatever : dirge23
  • lump sum + interest. Plus with installments the value of your winnings decreases with inflation : GloriousCow
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    If you take the multiple payments, it's put in low yield, but safe investment. The assumption is that i... : cerealSAM2
    • Or you take the lump sum and put it in a safe investment and get $2M a year interest. : OmegaRed59
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  why do people take lump sum? Is there an advantage to it, or do people go 'omg i need 80 million RIGHT N... : deathofrats
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    You get $88.5 million right now instead of $20,000 a year for 20 years. : deject
    • well, it's more than $20,000 but you get the idea : deject
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      More like $144,000 a week for 20 years. : Altanar
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        A lot of time they scale the payments so you start off at $20,000 a month and then move up towards a few ... : umcpwintermute
        • "The jackpot (won by matching all five white balls in any order and the red PowerBall) is either an annui... : Altanar
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    Say you win $100,000,000 and they offer half of it as a lump sum. If you take the $50,000,000 and can ... : GloriousCow
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      ... if you don't touch the principle. No reason to win a lottery if you aren't going to enjoy while ... : Freon
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        I think it's almost safe to say with winning 88 lump that you would have to work very very hard to comple... : Porkasaurus
        • Well, I think you can count on blowing several mil right off, as you said, fancy car, nice real estate. ... : Freon
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      Yeah, if you don't touch it at all and who is going to do that? : Fred Garvin
      • If you withdraw money at the same rate as the non-lump sum payment plan you're still almost guaranteed to... : uncleanmonkey
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      If he re-invests the $88.5 million, he'll get another $120 after 20 years. For a total of $208.5M Or ... : Altanar
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        Strike that. "The annual payment will be increased each year by the percentage set out in the Powerball ... : Altanar
        • what's the percentage? : StolenNosferatu
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    you can just live off the interest it earns. Which with a conservative return of 4% will earn you 293k/mo... : hobosapien
    • This. If he's getting $1.7 million from a 2% return, he can just pull that out every year. I think everyo... : MercFox1
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      But he'd get $7.5mil / year (before taxes) if it's $232 million disbursed over 30 years. : Bold
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        $232 minus taxes. : uncleanmonkey
        • Sorry, I'm a tard. But yeah, taxes are pretty steep. : uncleanmonkey
  • inflation is huge these past decades : Chandler55
  • given the number of people that fuck it away and all the leeches that come after them when they win, I ki... : steelsamurai
  • you can make more over that period by using parts of the lump sum payment for investments : synapse19
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    You americans are getting owned. We don't pay any taxes when we win here in Canada. You only pay taxes on... : Utopia
    • but you have to live in canada : agentlead
• I'd most definitely take the lump sum, despite the gigantic hit in taxes/penalties. Knowing my luck, I'd... : jingletard
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  How do they deal with that kind of money in the short term before they get a chance to invest and diversi... : buzzbat
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    I imagine you hire a lawyer, create a trust, and the rest works itself out. : jingletard
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      You hire a lawyer and create a LLC to be in charge of the ticket for sure. : Matto357
      • Something a 23 year old farmer was taught by his father as his father was taught by his father before him... : Altanar
      • LLC? Get your ass to school boy. S or C corp. : theargent
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  This might seem ridiculous but during my daydreams about winning the lottery(I know everyone has had them... : Porkasaurus
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    I only think about how quickly I would probably blow a million of it : maulla
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      I would buy the place I work for and burn it down. : JT
      • Or pay every employee to quit : Porkasaurus
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        What about all the other employees? :( : stump
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          I'd pay a years salary to who I see fit, but most of the people I work with are drug addicts/alcoholics/p... : JT
          • so actually paying them would be bad. fuck them. : stump
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      I honestly can't think of anything I would spend a million on besides real estate and travel. That won't ... : Porkasaurus
      • Payoff Mine and the wifes student loans ~90k buy a nice, but not crazy expensive house ~300k (north ea... : maulla
      • An insane ShackParty at Quakecon : losimagic
    • Assuming I won the lottery, I'd probably only spend 50K of it outright. Bills and debts, student loans, n... : Modica Sol Solis
  • Haha yeah all the time. I often wonder how I'd react if I found out in a public place, like at work. I li... : ShekkyBoy
  • Before I found out about how they wire the money to your account, I always wanted to deposit a winning lo... : Ajax
  • Yes! : ease one
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  Why does the article say his family is broke when they live on a 320 acre farm? That's fucking huge. : 5150Joker
  • They were getting their mobile home repossessed. Frankly in SD you might be able to get 1,000 acres for : Lunatic Angelic
  • hint: land is cheap when there is no one around who wants to buy it. : eldiablo01
  • My mom lives on a 300 acre farm in a small Texas town that has been part of the family for generations, s... : slax0r
• heh imagine if he had won this 10 years ago and invested it in bernie madoff's care : proclone1
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  I used to think lump sum is stupid but with inflation........... you want lump sum - 100k a year payments... : abrasion
  • Also you can invest in tax free shit and never worry about taxes again even if they decide to raise it to... : peter
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  Glad to see someone young finally win. It usually some 80 year old that will lose most of it to estate la... : Blackdawgg
  • especially a rancher; living on a farm/ranch is a shitload of hard work that usually doesn't bring that m... : proclone1
• hahaha lots of my family lives in winner, there's a town i never thought i'd see on the news. : skizl
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  i'd be scared to win the lottery, i'd only want to win if it was completely anonymous and even then I'd j... : brewsterdog
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    you must be the life of the party : Juno
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      Oh, yeah. It's all fun and games until you instantly 70 people you don't know harassing you constantly a... : Altanar
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        yeah but with 88 mil you can be harrased by the viceroy of Monaco and shit instead of the homeless guy in... : Juno
        • Or maybe even an auto exec? : Altanar
      • i know it'll be tough but i think i might be up to the challenge. i'll just have to take the $88 million... : dromo5
  • I've never played the lottery in my life, but I think I would disagree. : Ellissd
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  Am I the only one who would not quit their job after winning a lottery? I would probably just invest the ... : Flynn
  • I definitely wouldn't quit. Buy a new car, move somewhere, and just generally buy (even more) techy shit.... : uncleanmonkey
  • i wouldn't quit right away but i'd definitely look to reduce my responsibilities in anticipation of leavi... : dromo5
  • you're god damn right I'd quit my job if I was taking home $80 million : AllYourBase
  • Hard to keep my job when I'm traveling the world. : ZombieAcademy
  • I would quit as soon as I had the money in my possession. : Evil Benius
  • it depends on how much I won, with 88 million yeah I would probably quit right away. If it was 1-5 millio... : Yabrodan
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    of course I'd quit. There are a million movies to watch, ten million books to read, thousands of games to... : mmogger
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      ^^ Yes, way to many other cool things to be doing than grinding a 9 to 5. : dmaownsyou
      • I'd probably show up to work even if they didn't pay me. There's very little I could do that interests me... : uncleanmonkey
  • Nope - I'd keep working too. I might work fewer hours or something, but yeah : action roommate
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    start my own business doing something I actually enjoy. maybe like a microbrewery or somethin : mindshot
    • This. id start my own thing, buy a couple toys, and invest the rest. : d0pamine
    • ^ this. I'd start a bbq restaurant/microbrewery, just to see if I could do it. If it fails and I'm out ... : riptyde
  • I'd quit if I won that much money. I wouldn't go insane and buy two houses or a giant house though. I'd j... : glio1337
  • I told all my co-workers that I'd pay off theirs houses and they'd never see me again. I'd buy a shit-... : jimmy-buffett
  • My job is generally more fun than my hobbies and recreation. No way I'd quit. : Serpico74
  • you cant claim that and not say what you do for a living : spiderfill
  • Depending on how much I win, I'd probably quit. Being able to accrue > $1 mil in interest a year would b... : walker270
  • I probably wouldn't quit for under $250,000,000, lump sum. : deject
  • I would give 4 weeks notice and quit. 4 weeks because I like and respect the folks I work for, but I if I... : afty04
  • Id quit my job in a heartbeat. its a shitty job though, but I cant really think of a job I wouldnt quit e... : klearlyunseen
  • I'd not only quit, I'd set my family up so they could quit, too. : Deathlove
  • all I know is what you just said isnt what would happen if you won 88 million dollars : Luminair
  • I'd never work a "real" job again. I'd pursue the kinds of things I really want to do, but can't because ... : Vincent Grayson
  • I would do something really stupid like converting 100 millions in pennies and then laugh like a maniac w... : Utopia
  • At some point, I'd quit. Immediately? No. After I have put together a very long term plan to set me up... : sukabljat
  • I wouldn't quit either. I'd bank it and use the interest to supplement my income. : ieGod
  • I'd quit and never fucking work a day again ever. : NastyJack
  • I'd keep working. Although I might choose to return to school instead. Jobs and / or school at the very... : spazzium
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  down here if you win the lottery it is TAX free, games of chance are not taxed. if you win $232mill the... : CoRDS
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    and where is that? : doomed
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      kangarooville : GloriousCow
      • All the roos down in rooville played the lottery A LOT. : cerealSAM2
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  I think it's BS that they advertise the jackpots to these lotteries in inflation adjusted dollars payed o... : LemonJoose
  • It all good because it only takes advantage of the poor and stupid. : trove
• dude...88 million who cares : agentlead
• Obama : Wolfanoz

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• 10 am kaleefornya time : jcrockerman
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  today? : johngloid
  • jes : freakord
• 6pm BST - just over 4 hours :p : losimagic
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  i hope they have a megaton announcement : freakord
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    $20 reduction on all service plans. that would be the winner. : mwasher
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      That + a $99 iPhone would probably double AT&T's subscriber number over night. : hawkeye
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        I'm not sure a $99 phone is really that big of a deal when you still have to spend close to that as your ... : mwasher
        • A $20 reduction to service plans would make a full data plan essentially $10 a month (it's currently $30)... : hawkeye
      • yeah, even though I really want a Palm Pre, if AT&T did this, I'd have an iPhone tomorrow. : suqur
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      Isn't that up to AT&T and not apple. : whistletits
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        hi whistletits. i'm pretty sure at&t would do whatever the fuck apple said. : mwasher
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          hi mwasher. I'm pretty sure that's why they sign contracts and stuff with each other. To avoid things lik... : Phreakin
          • Apple can be a bunch of right manipulative dicks when they want to be though...and AT&T is mostly run by ... : hawkeye
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  We've sold over 40 trillion iPhones and today we're announcing a new iPhone. The new iPhone Video is fas : hawkeye
  • Tell us more of the future! : scottythejock
  • Now 50 grams lighter - even my frail arms can HNGGGGGGGGGGGGG- lift-NGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG : aeg1x
  • Don't stop! : not work safe
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    I can't wait to trash the $400 phone I bought last year for a new one with more gigabytes in it! : MagicWishMonkey
    • I can't wait for people to do that so I can get old ones cheaper. : abrasion
    • I am looking forward to buying one because my 3 year old phone is starting to fall apart! : not work safe
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      upgrading? i held out when the 3g came out....i wasn't about to trash the 399 1st gen i bought just for g... : xxiv
      • I have one of the original launch phones and it still works fine, I can't justify spending several hundre... : MagicWishMonkey
      • yeah, i'm trying to decide if i am going to ditch my OG iphone for a new one, too : FrayLo
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      I can't wait to get an E52 instead. Metalic, insane battery life, great data features, slim. http://www.g... : node
      • that is pretty slick, I love nokia's : MagicWishMonkey
      • Tiny screen, shit browser, no apps. I mean if that's what you want fine, but you're comparing apples ( : hawkeye
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  Current iPhone mens in the U.S. Did you notice your service go to shit when they released the 3G? I h... : Matto357
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    I live in some kind of weird alternate reality. My iPhone drops maybe 1-2 calls a month, data is super f... : hawkeye
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      Is mobile coverage in the US still shit? i know you've got more SPACE, but it's all so different over the... : node
      • South Florida is just blanketed in coverage. I know people in California or New York seem to bitch const... : hawkeye
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    Part of that was the original firmware that shipped with the 3G's. Apparently part of the negotiating th... : spazzium
    • This is true. I noticed an immediate improvement after that one firmware update that was supposed to fix... : hawkeye
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  are original iphones still worth anything? mines not in the greatest condition as i've had it since oc... : xxiv
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    If they release a new 32GB iPhone at $299 then yours will probably be worth $50. : hawkeye
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      that's not even worth the trouble of selling it. i'll make it an itunes remote! i can do that without a s... : xxiv
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        Don't listen to him, an iphone 1.0 would be worth at least 250$ AUD - or 180$ US at a guess. You guys ar... : abrasion
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          That's true. Unlocked it's probably worth quite a bit more. : hawkeye
          • Unlocked 1g's are going for about 300 dollars on ebay right now! : spazzium
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            Well physically, it's a piece of highly advanced electronics- most mobile phones (when released new) are... : abrasion
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              I can't imagine spending more than about $400 for something I know will only be good for 1-2 years at mos... : hawkeye
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                My SE T-630 is still my primary phone - 7 years. I upgraded it to a Nokia 6500c but that...was a disaste... : abrasion
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                  You're a 90 year old man aren't you? Between your UI preferences and your choice of technology in genera... : hawkeye
                  • I've been a 90 year old man since I was about 18 :( BTW I went to a LAN this weekend, of the 18 people t... : abrasion
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                Yea, even $400 is pretty ridiculous for a phone IMO : MagicWishMonkey
                • I don't think you understand, that's what most NEW MODEL phones cost - if not more, it's just you poor ba... : abrasion
• I hope its big enough to make people not buy Pre's so i can find one : maulla
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  Will AT&T let me transfer an existing iPhone to another # on my account so I can get a new one? The wife ... : Clay
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    Just switch sims after she buys the new one : tashtego
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      you can switch iphone sims? I had no idea. : Clay
      • yeah when my first 3G died I watched the guy do it at the Apple store. It is under that little slot on th... : Evil Benius
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  i wonder if 3.0 will be released today. : pandastrong
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    I un-jailbroke my phone in hopes that it would be...but I bet it'll be like Thursday or Friday :( : hawkeye
    • I expect it to not be today, or this week actually. I expect it to be release after the release of the ne... : Yanks
  • Probably not. 2.0 was released like 2-3 weeks after last announcement. : Iwannaacura
  • cockknockers need to release it. It's been in beta a while. was 2.0 in beta (like this) as well? : freakord
• I am wearing my 2007 WWDC Keepers of the Code shirt in excitement! :D : Yanks

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  If I can't do it virtually, I'm just going to have to do the real thing :( : abrasion
  • same here... *gets his trench coat* : niceguynick
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  I prefer grape rape simulators myself. : packav
  • You're gonna need this grape whistle. : lolpatrol
  • I dare you. : mechanicalgrape
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  loled at your parentheses. Like what, you feed the hymen in to your dvd drive to advance to the next leve... : aeg1x
  • It's an anti-cheat mechanism like those code wheels in the 80s : bipolar
• Japan didn't ban the games. The association that a lot of game companies are a part of banned the compan... : Nighteyes
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  Japan has been passing all sorts of laws lately. Sale of Airsoft guns has been banned, knives of a certai... : gibolas1234
  • first they took our airsoft guns, and I said nothing, because I am a child rapist then they took my chil... : boring gegtik
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    knives of a certain length have been banned unless you're a samurai In my head I'm hoping this is real..... : hawkeye
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      They probably would have to issue an exemption, just because a lot of families and businessmen are going ... : Lone Swordsman
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        a katana isn't a knife though. And they have some fucking HUGE kitchen knives (15"+ blade for cutting fi... : retardhumper
        • Well yeah, I'm just saying that they won't automatically ban ALL blades over a certain size. : Lone Swordsman
      • This is going to make it more difficult for me to get my own Japanese made battle-ready Katana some day. : one random winner
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      Hi, I'm Ted Hokkido, licensed Samurai. What seems to be the trouble? : Fyunch Click
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        Bandits are going to return to our humble village at harvesttime to steal our crops! : dirge23
        • Don't fret there mama-san, I'll whup those bandits into tiny pieces or my name isn't Ted "Musashi's a pus... : Fyunch Click
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        hahah, I want to see this TV show on USA in the style of Burn Notice. Hi. My name is Ted Hokkido. I : hawkeye
        • I picture him speaking like Jack Burton or maybe Brisco County Jr. : Fyunch Click
        • signed! : Toraz Chryx
        • so, it'd be called Ronin Notice ? : Shivawn
      • Do you run any sort of emporium? : Crimsonbeak
  • Americans : busdriver3030
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  so you think children and pedophiles should have access to a game where you rape 12 year olds purely beca... : Dravenport
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    We should probably ban first person shooters since murderers might play them. I am not saying I see any v... : Evil Benius
    • We should at least ban gun shaped controllers I mean those things kill people! : gakera
    • I want to disagree but I can't deny the fact that I love shooters and I'm not a murderer :< : kpxkrnjc
  • That's right. : OMGzImBurning
  • Laws should serve to block real threats, not enforce morality. : Lone Swordsman
  • Oh come on. I hate it when people lose objectivity in 0.5 seconds if a word like pedophile or rape is any... : ramshot
  • If PROTECT TEH CHILDREN is an imperative, I suspect the ESRB (or the Japanese equivalent) would likely ra... : bipolar
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  is that anything like the serenity now group? : Ziz
  • Seinfeld reference gets you a +1 : one random winner
• I don't think you read the article very well. It's just the software association who has banned their mem... : geedeck
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  And yet they blur wangs and vag. : Fred Garvin
  • They don't do that man. It's the forcefields. : Rehevkor
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  "Neither of the bills, which are being discussed by both parties and are unlikely to pass in the current ... : thebigbeefsandwich
  • dude, they read the manga for the articles. : Fyunch Click
• that's probably a good thing imo. : AMikaboshi

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• Or other, I'm open to suggestions, as long as I can buy it through steam. : Caoster007
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  Mass Effect. : gyrfalcon
  • Mass Effect. : choppp
• Mass Effect : Mmmmmoo
• Mass Effect is definitely worth playing through. : Poor Yurik
• Mass Effect : Link.
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  out on a limb saying Overlord. I *loved* that game. 2 days of simple fun gameplay. : Skoal^Fyfan
  • ^^^ 2 days cause I basically marthoned through it since it was so good :> : Skoal^Fyfan
  • c-c-c-c-combo breaker : Chandler55
• Mass Effect is well worth your time. : grendel
• Massive Effect : Sailor of Fortune
• Mass Effect. Combact is slightly cumbersome but the story and game itself are undeniably enganging. : bld
• Absolutely Mass Effect : TastyWheat
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  I was not expecting this much consensus. Mass effect it is. : Caoster007
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    It's because most of the Mass Effect fanboys haven't played Overlord. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      Overlord is a very fun game, but it is kind of like the girl that you go out with for awhile and know tha... : bld
      • Well, given Overlord is shorter, I'd play that first and then move on to Mass Effect which will keep you ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • I've played both and Mass Effect is a much better game. Overlord had potential, but landed far from it. I... : Vincent Grayson
    • Overlord was ok at best. : razlebol
    • I've played both and Mass Effect is MUCH better. : Milleh
    • I played the hell out of Overlord and I still vote Mass Effect. Twice. : Draugluin
  • mass effect is epic and fun, overlord is just fun. I mean they're both good games but you compared the AA... : thebigbeefsandwich
• Overlord. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Mass Effect Hands Down : Anir
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  I played through Mass Effect one time and I'll never play it again. The story was cliched, the combat was... : AgentPothead
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    did you play it on PC or 360? : choppp
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      I wasn't all that into it playing it on 360 to be honest - it took me forever to get myself to beat the g... : choppp
      • I did not try it on 360, played the PC version. It was weird cause playing through it, I was like this do : AgentPothead
    • Does it matter? : tyrelhill
• mass effect fo' shizzle : exmx
• Mass Effect! : gustjar
• Mass Effect, there is simply no competition there.... : Milleh
• Mass Effect. How can you even compare those games? : utgaardsloke
• i dont know what overlord is, but my answer is Mass Effect : smax
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  Overlord, because if you start it now, you'll likely be done just in time to grab Overlord 2 when it come... : Masem
  • It's true, there's a lot of game to be played there. : Rotten Deadite
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  I've never played Overlord, but Mass Effect is boring as hell once you actually get to space. : DonkeyPopsicle
  • Don't just go landing on random planets, go to the ones where you have quests. The story planets are big ... : Mad Jack McMad
• Mass Effect : Dschinghis Khan
• Mass Effect! A fun game, the story is awesome and the interactions with characters are nuanced and cool. ... : Mad Jack McMad