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  I keep thinking about that in terms of the used game market and digital distribution. : ThomW
  • I know that digital distributions helps publishers keep the margins going on their product as long as the... : ieGod
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    I'm more worried about the impact to future Shack White Elephant exchanges. I love giving away old games. : pupismyname
    • Nothing says "I loathe you" like a pre-used Xbox Live Points cards. : ThomW
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    Then you get a game like Dawn of War II that you buy in a store which requires, and is linked to one steam account only. I think Spore has something like this too except not on steam.
    
    Either way you're not selling the game when you're done with it.

    Mar 16, 2009 10:48am PDT
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    Then you get a game like Dawn of War II that you buy in a store which requires, and is linked to one stea... : Pneum0
    • Yeah, I was just thinking about that in terms of Empire Total War. I bought a lovely Empire TW box from A... : yoonix
• This is the main factor in my choice not to buy much in that format. Pretty much the only thing I've bou... : Zakko
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  yeah but what if you could sell used titles from your digidistro account to other digidistro accounts or ... : massdev
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    That would be awesome. I think transfer rights (even for a fee) should be an option. Also why didn't ... : yoonix
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      Black Label? : ieGod
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        The original, not greatest hits. : yoonix
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          http://completed.shop.ebay.com/items/_W0QQLHQ5fCompleteZ1QQ_dmdZ1QQ_sopZ12?_nkw=final+fantasy+VII+playsta... : yoonix
          • Mainly because the Greatest Hits label looks ugly as hell :( It wasn't until the PS3 GH releases that ... : roushimsx
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            $549 http://cgi.ebay.com/Final-Fantasy-VII-PlayStation-BLACK-LABEL-SEALED-NEW_W0QQitemZ380110155453QQc... : Schnapple
            • That is just retarded : WadeMcLain
        • Ah. I have this version. Stupidly I lent it out back in the day WITH instruction manual. I got it back SA... : ieGod
        • I have my original FFVII copy sitting in my entertainment center right next to the PS2. That's pretty mu... : DinK
    • Yeah it would be cool if you could transfer Xbox Marketplace or Steam apps to another user account, even ... : Dave-A
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      It's not rare, there's literally millions of copies of it out there. I don't remember just how many milli... : roushimsx
      • Yeah, it's going up on ebay in a few minutes. I have a GH copy somewhere too. : yoonix
    • i've seen it 179.99 in a gamebuzz store in montreal. : barichnikov
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    I can't imagine that would ever happen. One of the key selling points of digital distro for producers, pu... : Attica Blue
    • The used market helps support higher prices for new merchandise. One of the reasons people are willing t... : LemonJoose
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  That's the whole point; the stuff you own isn't yours anymore. Goodbye, doctrine of first sale. :-( : MaJeStu
  • I know, and that sucks. :( It's the tradeoff we get between instant gratification and resale rights, and ... : yoonix
• GOD DAMMIT don't you know you're hurting the industry when you resell your DVDs????/ : Rotten Deadite
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  yup, everyone is so enamored by iTunes and Steam they forget (or don't care) what they giving up in retur... : Modulus
  • Just reminds me of how much I appreciate the "digital copy" disks with my DVDs. : Rotten Deadite
  • With the exception of games which I've lost over the years, I still own every game I've ever purchased. I... : Schnapple
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    doesn't everyone just burn discs? : EvilDolemite
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      Well you give up the ability to sell it, I think that's his point. You can burn yourself a disk but stil... : pigvomit
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        Good thing when they do, i got hundreds of hours of game play for under a few hundred dollars. : Jinxplayer
        • So steam is like a single payment rental for you? : RikiTiki2
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    I'm guessing that a big portion of "everyone" simply doesn't care, even if many people care a lot. I p... : DinK
    • yeah i don't think i've ever sold any old books or movies or games. i usually donate them. : jenisthebest
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    In the long run, for me the amount of money I save buying through steam vs. the amount of money I would g... : ColonBlow1
    • This is also true. The vast majority of titles I've bought from Steam in the last year or two have been ... : DinK
• Developers bitch about piracy on PCs but you can't sell a digitally distributed game to Gamestop. : Dynotaku
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  I don't mind it as much as most people, I guess, but I'm (thankfully, knock on wood) in a place where if ... : Deathlove
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    I've redownloaded music from Amazon. : mtgDoofy
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      explain how : Deathlove
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        Unfortunately I don't have my amazon account info with me at work, but in general I went to my account pa... : mtgDoofy
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          I go to My Account, My MP3 Downloads, I have three albums, there, go to one of them (Incredibad), and the... : Deathlove
          • Hmm. I will have to try this again when I get home. : mtgDoofy
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  I think they do it mainly because they figure that it reduces their sales. I think that's wrong. Take ... : even4
  • Plus on top of what you said, if somebody knows ahead of time that they'll be able to resell what they're... : DinK
• dirty hippies steal music, they deserve DEATH : scorpiusman
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  What do you think of this digital distribution resale model: A distributor, like Steam or whatever, al... : DinK
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    Conceptually speaking, I just can't wrap my head around resale of digital products. That is, there is no ... : Attica Blue
    • You're just not selling a physical item, you're selling a license. And you're right, it kind of doesn'... : DinK
  • They can start a 'buy-back' program for 'store credit' and it'll let people turn in 5-10 old games for on... : hawke
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  I really don't understand buying TV episodes online...isn't that *WAY* more expensive than buying them on... : Vincent Grayson
  • It depends on how long a season is. A 24 episode season will probably be more expensive. A 6-12 episode s... : yoonix
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    If you're going for true ala carte television, it's not that bad. Figure you pay $50/mo. for cable, that'... : Deathlove
    • ^^^ We just have basic cable at home. I watch my TV on Amazon and Hulu. : yoonix
    • True. I guess I'm thinking more of shows that're on Hulu and the like (so, not HBO/Showtime stuff, where ... : Vincent Grayson
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  And that's why no matter how successful digital distribution becomes, they will always be a market for ha... : Edges
  • As long as boxed copies don't all start tying themselves to one persons online account like some recent g... : Pneum0
  • And they shall be called the SINless, shall be uneligible for what few government services remain, and wi... : AxeMan808
• Welcome to the future motherfucker. Nothing digital will have any value outside of closed systems. : sammyl
• yeah and what happens when some of us live to see the day one of these companies goes out of business and... : Luminair
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  i saw a site that allows you to sell your purchased mp3's : dignan
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    anyone know the site im thinking of? i saw it in PC Magazine I think, an article about the legality : dignan
    • ... : Ebu
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  btw: what's Amazon's cut when you sell on there? was it easy to get your items listed? how much work wa... : dignan
  • much easier then ebay, but they take a much larger cut. 15% i think : want to
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    It's fantastically easy to list items on Amazon, but they'll take 15-20% off the top. If you have somethi... : yoonix
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      how much did you get for Burning Crusade CE ? a local walmart still has a sealed case of the latest CE e... : dignan
      • 80 bucks, I think. I got it on some super special deal for $40 at some point but I quit WoW before the bo... : yoonix
• You could sell the password for your steam account. : thecatinthehat
• And this is why physical media will entirely disappear within about a decade : locater16