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• Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. : ArcKnight
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  Isn't the starter edition for developing markets, not for small computers? It seems like Home Premium wo... : electroly
  • In my own experience, all people that buy computers with a starter edition around here just take the PC t... : Nitrium
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    No, starter is the supercheap one they use on netbooks. Same reason netbook XP is liimited to 1gb I think... : jcupitt
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      XP on netbooks isn't limited to 1gb. They can't be sold with XP if they have more than 1gb of ram but use... : Prozium
      • sure, but you have to buy XP again for that, or you're violating the EULA : jcupitt
• this is going to confuse folks who already have three apps in the systray : cpt_gloval
• O_o what : AllYourBase
• http://news.cnet.com/8301-13924_3-10172140-64.html : dumb.
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  why would you post something like this completely out of context? it's for poor as fuck countries, on poo... : feek
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    it is for netbooks people here will buy, not for africans using vacuum tubes : Luminair
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      source? : feek
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        hmm what a surprise : feek
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          Brad Brooks, corporate VP for Windows Consumer Product Marketing [said] “These engineering investments ... : jcupitt
          • perhaps in an effort to bog our pockets down. with money. : yakz
        • the quote in the original post is from the cnet link above. what more source do you need? it says the s... : Luminair
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    http://www.google.com/search?q=windows+7+starter+edition+to+be+sold+in+developed+markets : electroly
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      ... and for low-cost netbooks in the developed world : jcupitt
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        man if only netbook manufacturers offered you some kind of choice as to the OS you wanted on it... what d... : mikecyb
        • whatever OS you like, as long as it's not XP, I think is the rationale MS need an OS product at this s... : jcupitt
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        this is the point i was making. to be sold in developed markets : electroly
        • oops, sorry, need new specs : jcupitt
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  Stupid, stupid, stupid :( What qualifies as an application anyway? A process? an entry in the task list... : GloriousCow
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    Doesn't matter, you'll never get the option to buy it. Starter is for third world nations. : umcpwintermute
    • poor poor canada : CoRDS
  • When I had vista starter as one of the OSes on my testing laptop I believe it was 3 applications that hav... : semaphore
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  At least this will limit people's malware infections : theamazingrand0
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    But once you're infected with three things you're fucked bigtime. : inchwide
    • lol : TrptJim
• So basically its a web browser with maybe Word, AIM, or a small game running in the background. : handofthrawn
• Seems reasonable. It's like the iPhone limiting running apps so it doesn't degrade performance. : Dave-A
• haha. chrome is fucked. you get 2 tabs! : epit
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  Doesn't Intel already limit the hardware specs of netbooks by only allowing ones of certain screen sizes ... : ShekkyBoy
  • wintel bullies manufacturers into not making netbooks too good, yes : Luminair
  • The XP license agreement thing is what limits netbooks right now. This is why the Mini 10 can only be sol... : rosewood
• So it's just like the equivalent version of XP? : d fluke
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  i think the main thing this will be used for is digital signage, and maybe point-of sales. I can't think ... : SolveChrist
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    That is what WinCE and their other embeded products are for. Starter has been said for developing nations... : rosewood
    • yea forgot about ce. you are correct sir : SolveChrist
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    No, it's ONLY to be sold in thrid world nations. : batkiwi
    • this was true for XP and Vista but for Windows 7 Starter Edition they will indeed be selling it in develo... : electroly
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  I have 18 user based processes running on my Vista machine, six of them are device driver related. To ac... : metalremains
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    Yes, you're right. Everyone at microsoft are retards. Or maybe they actually know more about this th... : uncleanmonkey
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      Is a task tray icon a app or process? How about when you open the IM window from task tray is it an app t... : metalremains
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        How the hell should I know? I'm just saying that you shouldn't assume everyone is a retard. They're not g... : uncleanmonkey
        • ...they might. : skryte
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      Hahah, there's nothing magical about an app that takes up a task bar slot. : MagicWishMonkey
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        Not yet there isn't. Maybe because you're not running Windows Starter Edition? : qsylvr
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          MS isn't going to make any drastic changes that might break backwards compatibility with software written... : MagicWishMonkey
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            you know that two major versions of windows have shipped with this exact functionality in, right? this i... : electroly
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              I never said it was impossible, I said there's nothing magic about an app that uses a taskbar entry. ... : MagicWishMonkey
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                okay? i'm not sure what you're arguing exactly. : electroly
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                  Me either, just pointing out that MS will probably not limit apps based on whether they show a taskbar en... : MagicWishMonkey
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                    and i'm pointing out that they will and are currently doing exactly that. windows xp starter edition and... : electroly
                    • Ahh ok, interesting. I didn't realize that. : MagicWishMonkey
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                Which also makes it extremely difficult to use for your average user of this OS.
                
                It's not meant to be fool proof. I'm sure they just limit the number of apps that can be in the task bar, or the number of apps that have a window.

                Feb 26, 2009 3:52pm PST
                Which also makes it extremely difficult to use for your average user of this OS. It's not meant to be ... : uncleanmonkey
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        Yes, 'cause clearly you need magic to limit the number of apps in the task bar? Have you written a lin... : uncleanmonkey
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          yes I've been writing windows apps with C#.NET since the end of the beta in 2001 Enabling/disabling th... : MagicWishMonkey
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            i think you're on a different page than the rest of us. nobody is suggesting that applications with task... : electroly
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              Ok, is that for sure how they are planning to enforce the restriction? It seems kind of odd : MagicWishMonkey
              • yes, microsoft has stated that this is how it works. taskbar tray icons don't count, but when you click ... : electroly
          • Who claimed it was magic? Nobody. You claimed it needed to be magic, so perhaps you should reconsider you... : uncleanmonkey
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            Oh, and about being "hostile", maybe that had something to do with the fact that you wrote a post in a pr... : uncleanmonkey
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              I wasn't trying to mock you dude, chill out ;) : MagicWishMonkey
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                Yes you were. That or you're extremely bad at communicating. Pro-tip: Laughing at someone and then charac... : uncleanmonkey
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                  You're the one that assumed he was laughing at you and not the limitation, chief. : omnova
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                    Uh, because that's what he wrote... See, there are these threads here, where you can follow what someone ... : uncleanmonkey
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                      I wasn't laughing at you dude, sorry if you interpreted it that way. If I had a magic time machine (oh sh... : MagicWishMonkey
                      • What were you laughing at then? You responded to my post saying "haha", and then characterizing my argume... : uncleanmonkey
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              Lighten up, Francis. : omnova
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                What makes you think I need to lighten up? I just think that when someone says "HAHA" at someone and t... : uncleanmonkey
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                  Maybe you should learn to be correctional without resorting to outright hostility. You know, like reason... : omnova
                  • Which I do, assuming the person didn't act superior when he didn't know wtf he was talking about (you kno... : uncleanmonkey
                  • You obviously have never read a thread full of programmers before! : SenorSpine
  • Applications are not the same as processes. Microsoft isn't going to limit the number of processes the o... : WhatIsThisFor
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    Is a "process" always considered an application? : not work safe
    • as metalremains pointed out (well, he was going this way but then came to a totally ridiculous conclusion... : electroly
  • Are you running vista? Bring up the tank manager. How many applications are listed? : Horn
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  bwahahahahahahahaha : sKetchflow
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    gwaahahahahahahha : Mr.SEX
    • ahoo hoo hoo : mindmann
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  thats lame fuck micro$oft : wtf242
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    BILL GATE$ IS EVIL : jingletard
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      M$ $UCK$ : razlebol
      • More like M$ SU¢K$ : TheNiXXeD
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  My iPhone is limited to one, so whatever. Oh, I kid... : dmason
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    The iphone runs a ton of shit in the background. Most programs can only rely on 20 megs or so of memory ... : Horn
    • Oh, I kid... : dmason
  • You can fix that! http://code.google.com/p/iphone-backgrounder/wiki/Documentation It'll be limited to : DOOManiac
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  Ubuntu is used on a lot a netbooks already. Surely this will just push more consumers over to linux if th... : pieman
  • Yes they will, they have confirmed it ^^^ It's just for the super-low-cost $200 netbooks. : jcupitt
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    i dont see the problem with 3 app limit for netbook. Sure its a sledgehammer to try to keep memory use do... : filthysock
    • also, since you can do everything almost in the browser now, it should be much of a problem : filthysock
• Considering what HP is doing with the mini 1000 mi edition, this seems particularly shortsighted of them. : Conan