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  20% is expected now-a-days... and actually was pretty standard in the 70's-80's. You actually have to car... : drucifer
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    You always have to get PMI if you have less than 20% to put down, but for first-time homebuyers 10% has b... : tashtego
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      Boston, and actually that whole NE coastline is WAAAAAAAAY too expensive :( : drucifer
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        Believe me, if my wife wasn't tied here because of her professional network, we'd get the fuck out. : tashtego
        • well, the good news is that your property value will never go down : drucifer
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      I got approved for a 300k loan and I had 13% down of the total condo cost and my score was over 700, don'... : gmd
      • Maybe I need to drink more muscle milk : tashtego
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      What part of Boston are you looking in? The north shore is still pretty affordable in a few places. : Horn
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        We're looking close to the city right now- we live in Somerville. This weekend we're going to look at pla... : tashtego
        • The only complaint I hear about the commuter rail is the north station vs south station thing (and a cert... : Horn
  • i dunno about that. it was only about 8 months ago (when the mortgage crisis was looming huge) that my wi... : cpt_gloval
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  Not everyone is meant to own a home. Hence the mortgage meltdown. : Mrc32
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    Are you fucking shitting me? I'm not some jackass who makes $50K a year trying to get a 2/28 ARM on a $50... : tashtego
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      When you say "it took forever to save [$30K]", what do you mean by forever? : stratedge
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        I sucked at saving for a long time, and I spent money foolishly, so it took almost 10 years to save what ... : tashtego
        • Yes, do not buy a house unless you will have a bunch of cash still left after down payment + closing. : DinK
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          You can't afford a 300K house. Even if you were horrible at saving money, it should still only take you m... : stratedge
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            Are you including paying rent in your four year calculation? The money I can save while paying rent is v... : asylumn
            • Yes, and I'm assuming he's paying a decent amount, too. If he's paying less than he's got worse problems.... : stratedge
    • Frankly, you're right. I'd say wait if your market is full of assholes. : Merconium
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    wow, we've come a looooong way from people believing home ownership is part of the american dream. Sorry ... : Borzoi
    • I can see owning a brownstone or a warehouse loft/apartment, but I have very little want for a house and ... : Modica Sol Solis
    • What is the current fascist propaganda? I guess my newsletter hasn't arrived yet. : asylumn
• Tashtego, you may want to call up a broker and see what they can do...and they will be able to tell you a... : DianeOfTheMoon
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  A house is a liability, not an asset. Make sure you understand that before you decide to buy. : theargent
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    the tax breaks sound nice but the whole "you gotta fix shit when it breaks, yadda yadda yadda" sounds lik... : MagicWishMonkey
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      i don't think it's that bad if you put a small amount of money every month.. Like condo fees, except for ... : Utopia
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        Yea, it's not the money as much as the whole having to drop whatever you were doing and make time to fix ... : MagicWishMonkey
        • Buy new, preferably off the plans (pre-sale), and you will not have problem for a while... : Utopia
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        The benefits of homeownership far outweigh the negatives of constant maintenance. I can't believe peo... : Tommy Toolbag
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          I never said owning a home is a liability, I'm just busy as hell right now and I don't want the hassle. M... : MagicWishMonkey
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            I didnt say you did. : Tommy Toolbag
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              oh ok, you responded to me so I misunderstood you. Nevermind :) : MagicWishMonkey
              • No I didnt. I responded to Utopia :) : Tommy Toolbag
        • (replying to an old ass thread) So it's an asset that I have to pay for till it becomes a revenue genera... : theargent
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      I'm aware of the buying-vs-renting issues, but when you throw in "has a heating system and insulation fro... : tashtego
      • True dat, there are a lot of benefits to buying, that's for sure. For 300k you could pretty much get a b... : MagicWishMonkey
  • I can't think that most people that have owned would say this. The benefits far, far outweigh the liabili... : Merconium
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  Get a broker for real. I bought a 180k condo with no down payments. No bank would accept me. I called a b... : Utopia
  • i had the opposite experience. i talked to a couple brokers who told me i needed shit like every pay stub... : cpt_gloval
• the mob : mega man
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  wait longer. the housing market is still tanking and will continue to do so for a while. ESPECIALLY in pl... : epit
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    where you two gonna look when it bottoms? : sixfoot6
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      our ideal area is newport harbor's feeding school district. pretty sure that'll stay out of our reach. 2... : epit
      • We're also looking around 450k. Wife's family is in Mission Viejo, so we're keeping an eye on that market... : sixfoot6
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    not tanking in all areas though, my area has not gone down at all. : gmd
    • dunno where you are, but I know socal's nice areas are just now getting hit. it's my opinion that the p... : epit
• hahah so I hadn't checked my credit score in a while- 776. Good to know that's not a problem! : tashtego
• I don't know much about home buying, but have you been looking at your credit reports from all bureaus? M... : justsayno
• How long have you had your current job? : FushigiDenki
• Yeah, but what debt do you have? : krebster
• Find a good mortgage guy. Ask about different types of loans, like FHA for example. I got a mortgage wi... : DinK
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  Dude with a 700 credit score the mob can you get a loan of $100,000 from 5 different banks. You just h... : Melll
  • Even as the Mafia has maintained its interest in trucking, it has also expanded into new territory. “Th : Melll
• Lendingtree is crap, definitely find a reputable local guy, a little extra work to get a couple opinions ... : timaste
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  Your income should be a little over $100k for a house like that. If you've got that covered you might ne... : mrtony
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    huh? The payment would only be between $1,700 and $2,300 (30 year vs 15 year there) ... for a total ... : Nation
    • NOTE: that end part was a statement of what I expect to be fact, not what would be wise. : Nation

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• I hated it. The pacing was completely off. The plot didn't do anything for me either. : d fluke
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  the sex devil character is suppose to be the whore of Babylon I believe. I really like and my wife ad... : shavenewok
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    Well that's a fair assessment based on the engraving, but still doesn't mean much. : randomposter
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      see i know there is some signifigance but as i don't have any kind of religous background i don't know ex : shavenewok
      • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whore_of_Babylon : randomposter
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    IMO, she's actually Satan : TShandy
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      Well, that's the other conclusion to draw the more likely one for most, perhaps but the fact that Satan w... : randomposter
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        It's been years since I watched it, but I thought the point was If you enter the gates of hell as a morta : skitzo
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          and the chick was the devil who didn't care about the worshipers, but she like Johnny Depp cause he was s : skitzo
          • Definitely not : Mondo
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          The film never says anything about immortality. And if the chick was the Devil, then what the hell is the : randomposter
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            Dude at the very end the dude sets himself on fire to demonstrate his newly gained ability and starts la : skitzo
            • .... Good point. : randomposter
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        wasn't the whole point that the devil was bored/lonely and was looking for companionship/love. or maybe t... : HighSea
        • Never read the book, but I thought the hunt for the missing books is what peaked the devils interest orig... : skitzo
• I liked it. Only watched it once and can't remember much of it, but I liked it. : nudel
• Awesome, very much enjoyed watching it. : TShandy
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  I like it very much as a clever old-school occult thriller, done by the master of clever, old-school occu... : Borzoi
  • P.S. I've read the novel it was based on, and frankly prefered the movie. The novel felt like a big rip-o... : Borzoi
• I enjoy it but dont think it was ever meant to make any sense : painangel
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  First 3/4ths of the movie was awesome... last 1/4th was a waste of time. : Demius
  • i didn't think when she rode Johnny for all he was worth was a waste of time : shavenewok
• Feels like a Gabriel Knight movie, therefore it is awesome. : daedraug
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  The soundtrack was really annoying and ruined it for me (like the Machinist - that oboe/clarinet whatever... : Dr Van Nostrand
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    Er, there were one or two little oboe sections (with the lighter more jovial sound) but those were used a... : randomposter
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      Well it has been a while but I remember the music being the reason I didn't like it as much as I should h... : Dr Van Nostrand
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        There is oboe in the movie though, I believe. : randomposter
        • Yeah I think you are right...oh I actually found the song that was pissing me off (but unfortunately it's... : Dr Van Nostrand
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    Wrong Police, pull over to the side of the road so I can assrape you with four hard inches of opinion. ... : heartsauce
    • ROFL. I love this first line. : randomposter
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      Lol first time for me! Well I found the song that was bugging me I'll link the post bah forgot to put th... : Dr Van Nostrand
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        Dude, I own the soundtrack and love this song, but for some reason EVERY time I hear it, it reminds me of... : heartsauce
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          The Ghostbusters connection is probably the only reason I like it, cuz it does stand out as being way too... : heartsauce
          • Oh yeah I absolutely love Ghostbusters, one of my all time favs. Yeah that's a good way to explain it, t... : Dr Van Nostrand
• Ah, the ninth gate. I remember it well - somewhere near Bravil. I ran through the Rending Halls to the se : Dave-A
• I thought it was pretty good for the same reasons you did, but the ending still leaves me cold. It's not : action wombmate
• This film is one of my guilty pleasures as well. One of Polanski's hidden gems imho, there are a few issu... : PlanetPerfecto
• I like it even though it's kind of a dumb movie. : FushigiDenki
• LOVED IT : Mondo
• Awful movie. If Depp weren't in it, it would have been long forgotten by now. Then ending is what actuall... : Tommy Toolbag
• Liked it. But then I also like old books. : Albemuth
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  First time I saw it, in the theatre, I remember loving it up until the end, and I felt betrayed. But that... : heartsauce
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    It's in my top 5 of his: Chinatown Bitter Moon Repulsion Rosemary's Baby Ninth Gate ties for 5th wi... : Borzoi
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      what? no The Omen? : whistletits
      • Seeing as how The Omen was directed by Richard Donner... : action wombmate
• that chick was FUCKING HOT : ninjase

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  dmason.shacknews at gmail dot com : dmason
  • sent! : gakera
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  how do you delete it afterwards ? : doomed
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    i mean, a file that you have uploaded. : doomed
    • You delete it locally and it synchs to be deleted automatically, just like all changes. If you want to... : Ovate
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    it syncs to whatever you put in the folder...if you delete he file in your folder (locally) it deletes it... : SKI242
    • so it is a local FOLDER, not a "shortcut" or something like it... meaning you duplicate files... : doomed
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    I guess you just delete them from your dropbox folder on your local machine? : gakera
    • yessir... : SKI242
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  kainen at gmail dot com : kainen1
  • sent! : gakera
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  shackname AT Gmail : zipper76
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    hmmm I wonder who the lucky bastard with shackname@gmail.com is .... : gakera
    • no one yet : digital_d
    • he he - i was wondering about that. :) : zipper76
• breadavidf@gmail.com : Nali4Freedom
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  pmcclard @ gmail . com : locash
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    Sent to you lot (x3) : gakera
    • Got it. Thanks! : locash
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  joquers at gmail dot com : r3dn3ck
  • SENT! Only one mooooreee : gakera
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  kyllum AT hotmail.com, thanks! : kyllum
  • HOTMAIL? NEEEEXT lol, jk, sent :) : gakera
• I've got 3 left too, so we can continue this thread for a bit. : famine101
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  PROTIP: Use junction points to put stuff in your dropbox that doesn't want to be moved from it's original : OverloadUT
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    Jesus the grammar in that first sentence is atrocious. : OverloadUT
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      Should we bother doing this since the DropBox guys say they're going to support other folders in the futu... : famine101
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        I do it for now, and I can just change to using their system later. I don't expect them to get to that fe... : OverloadUT
        • Fair enough. : famine101
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          Tricky as in should be trivial? : Kentor
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            No, it should be tricky. You'd need to design an intuitive interface to not only select which folders you... : OverloadUT
            • That doesn't sound hard to me. Pay me large amounts of money and I'll solve all your problems. : Kentor
  • Lol Google browser sync eat your heart out! I have no idea how to set up a JP .( : gakera
• ALL DONE! But each invitee gets 10 invites almost immediately (I think) so don't fret! If you really wan... : gakera
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  Is it possible to have multiple people share one folder, because I haven't been able to do that. : carnivore
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    Yes you can. I haven't tried it, but in the web interface, you click the little arrow next to a folder an... : OverloadUT
    • My friends and I are doing that right now with a Land of Happy folder. We just use it to randomly go 'hey... : xsoulbrothax
• anyone else have any invites? SM me if you do, I really wants one of these things. : MagicWishMonkey
• mm any left? caribbeanx at gmail dot com : ssj4megaman

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• Oops. Not exactly Vancouver but Vancouver Island. : stump
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  looks like someone is getting off on the wrong foot : flagg209
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    YYEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH : Edges
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      http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3769/0701qf1.png : rgoer
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        hahahaha I like how he's putting sunglasses on OVER his sunglasses. : Arctic Fox
        • I'd love to see them do this in the show. : DrWaffles
  • Nice : Serpico74
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    You realize the only appropriate responses to subthreads like these are puns. Come on people, toe the li... : kek
    • actually my response was a horatio caineism, as two people already correctly assumed horatio caineisms... : flagg209
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    Sounds like what Phil does in private. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
    • hahahahaha!!!!! : Wolfanoz
• they need to stop pussy footing around and get to the bottom of this. : stonedonkey
• 6 Foots in a duffel bag? : bozer
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  Hopefully they'll be hot on his heels soon : HojuSimpson
  • So far he's been a few steps ahead of them. : Zeeliv
• I'm gonna start a new site, cuticleoverload.com : festivalman
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  mods nuke this thread before the shack embarrasses itself : [fry]
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    I wish you were a mod sometimes. : pancake humper
    • It would be a step in the right direction : nubitup
  • oh bracketed fry, we already embarrassed ourselves a long long time ago : HojuSimpson
  • Y'all gonna have to put your foot down. : AxeMan808
• I hope he didn't like to dance, because this victim....is all left feet now. : invisible_kid
• Viral Marketing for Subway's $5 Footlongs. : Rigor Morts
• I bet the killer works at subway and is tired of people asking for foot longs. : festivalman
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  So would they call a fisherman who picks these up an ankler? : festivalman
  • nicely done... : stonedonkey
• This thread is a Toeravasty! : Rigor Morts
• A femur of these, and I'll be really worried :( : jbury
• Look at what I've wrought. Muahaha. : stump
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  You can't get much worse than 6-feet under. : pilgrimage
  • everybody say, FOOT LOOSE! : g.lee
• The victims will not stand for such a crime! : mrvandelay
• this thread is heelarious!! : darcspeed
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  ice truck killer? : contentious roy
  • ^^^ICE TRUCK KILLER! : slickdoody
• Well, that's a good way to get AHEAD in life. : Rigor Morts
• i get a kick out of this story : kainen1
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  Bet it's the Albanians : Phreakin
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    ^^^ I thought the same thing. The Shield FTW. : baronzemo78
    • Me 3 :D I want the new season :( : DM7
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      Albania and Armenia are not the same place. : mwasher
      • also, http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17219362#itemanchor_17219362 : mwasher
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        THESE COLORS DON'T RUN!!!!!!!!!!!! : Phreakin
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          what? : mwasher
          • I don't know, I just wanted to post that : Phreakin
• Just goes to show, if you give an inch, some will take a foot. : shyguy74
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  the game is afoot? : .frame
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    best pun? ^^ this one's a shoe in. : Foxhawk
    • I don't know the ankler one above is pretty good. : stonedonkey
• You guys are playing the part of the heel. : DrZettl
• Someone, Mr Wolf, is one step ahead of the law...*puts on sunglasses* : chazums
• The authorities must be stumped on this one : HojuSimpson
• lol at the google context ads! Need Help with Foot Pain?For Every Foot, There's a Solution Solutions ... : Zakko
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  this foot story is flat : conandan
  • Watch yourself flat foot. : ifallible
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  "Saw 5" must be being filmed. : Masem
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    "But I..." (puts sunglasses on) "Saw six." YEEAAAAAHH : Omaha
    • fucking awesome : filthysock
    • perfect : oHnOES
    • I hate you. lol'd : Githyanki
    • epic! : dedgecko
    • bravo! : RikiTiki2
    • lol'd : r3dn3ck
    • Heh......nice. : thejm4n
    • Oh god, it is the end of days : Ebu
    • Oh fuck you, hahaha. : node
    • haha, oh god I could totally picture him saying that, too. : timmie
    • i've read and enjoyed this like 15 times throughout the day now : synapse19
    • fucking perfectly said. : seven
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  It's you isn't it. : CapnChaos
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    You're the killer. : CapnChaos
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      Because your name is stump. : CapnChaos
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        An interesting theory. We should discuss this in person. /sharpens hacksaw : stump
        • *cappedchaos* : doomed
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  Trouble is afoot in Vancouver. : virus
  • must..... resist...... yyyYYYYYYYYEEEAAAH! : silentbobuk
  • No, it's six feet. But if it's six feet, it must have been one foot, so is it a foot? : perstephanie
• Oh shit Margos is back. : Orange Pylon
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  What is it going to take for the authorities to get a leg up on this crime? : trOmblyj
  • When it comes to leads, they're stumped. : Snuffles-
• Looks like someone... really wants to win the upcoming marathon. : Sailor of Fortune
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  I thought it was a severed metres : drucifer
  • durrr-cifer!!! : Dave-A
  • two severed meters. :( six feet. i laughed anyway though. : perstephanie
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  lol @ caruso http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hv7rIVU37jM : jimmy-buffett
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    holy shit, they're endless: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sarYH0z948 : yAak
    • endlessly awesome : oHnOES
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      So what is this YEAH stuff? I never watched CSI. Looks really fucking douchy, though. : valael
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        the YEAAAAH is the start of the song for csi miami: teenage wasteland : -=kodiak=-
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          Teenage Wasteland? I think you mean Won't Get Fooled Again : HojuSimpson
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            oh shit, teenage wasteland is for CSI new york isnt it? god trying to keep track of these fucking show... : -=kodiak=-
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              Baba O'Reilly : HojuSimpson
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                fail :( : -=kodiak=-
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                  need a hug? : HojuSimpson
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                    sure... just a bit lower : -=kodiak=-
                    • Can I borrow a quarter while I'm down here? You have a whole roll of them in your pocket. : HojuSimpson
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            I think you both mean Baba O'Riley, gentlemen. : Majuju
            • fuck shit damnation that tiny sample text strikes again : Majuju
          • Yup - and it's not their theme song, they just use it. Songs been around for decades. : thetangent
    • http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/CSI/ :D : SilverSnake
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  it wasn't severed. The police say the bone isn't cut clean like you would find in a severed body part. Th... : bogombo
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    plane crash? That theory doesn't fly with me. : HojuSimpson
    • Well the idea leaves me a little soar. : Q-ball
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    that theory is full of hot air : whistletits
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      I plane on investigating on this. WOOOOOOOOHOOO IM FRENCH!! Finally I can also participate in those ... : Utopia
      • I just plane dont like it. : painangel
• Justice..... *puts on sunglasses* Has been severed. : virus
• I think we found what happened to the Man With One Red Shoe. : whistletits
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  They should be looking for a missing six foot man. : drucifer
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    oh come on... : drucifer
    • I'll admit it, I lol'ed :( : daedraug
    • I can't feel my legs :( : dognose
    • I lolled :( : Toraz Chryx
    • I like how all these replies have frowny faces :( : action roommate
  • That would make twelve foot... : melt_core
  • http://www.shacknews.com/profile/sixfoot6 ???? : SilverSnake
• The police have asked that anyone who notices they are missing their feet to call them : dognose
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  * H O S T L E ' D * : Wolfanoz
  • * S P L E L I G N ' D * : aeg1x
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  Caruso: These feet are leading us nowhere. Looks like we'll be needing....a hand. : rustified
  • YEAAAAAAAAAAHHHH : five_percent
  • ok that was awesome : hamachi
  • haha nice : Mmmmmoo
• name + post = lol'd : timaste
• God, every time this thread gets bumped I think... "Holy shit, that's like 12 feet now.." : snuff
• anyone else would be stumped : mindshot
• G A E T A ' D (BSG spoiler) : shyguy74

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• Bastards, I thought the furby was cute >:[ : jbury
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  The Furby would look cooler if he had a giant set of balls and an asshole on his forehead : wtf242
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    Goddamnit, I won't sink to that level I think I'm the only person who appreciates it for making cute a... : jbury
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      I'm confused, are you your own girlfriend? : gakera
      • No, she puts asses on all her creatures : jbury
  • lol : boring gegtik
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  i think the furby is cute (admittedly, i actually liked those things). the lizard thing though... well, m... : arcane_
  • You haven't seen the way it walks though! :D : jbury
  • I still have a tigerstripe Furby. :o He smells funny when he talks. : avatar_58
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  Eh, I tried to make a tyranid carnifex - but unfortunately the free demo version is incredibly limited an... : dedgecko
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    I'll have a go at making one of those now :) : jbury
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      Yeah I didn't do too well Concept: http://kofler.dot.at/40k/units/Tyranid_Carnifex_1.gif My Creatu... : jbury
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        I think that looks pretty damned good, considering the restrictions. I think the only modifications you n... : Syixxs
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          ugh... not the old carni, use the latest revision http://uk.games-workshop.com/tyranids/preview/image... : dedgecko
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            Right, going to go have a look :D : jbury
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              Better? http://jbury.shackspace.com/Spore/NewCarnifex.png : jbury
              • no : dedgecko
          • yea, that's a really bad angle of it... let me find something better HERE: http://www.coolminiornot... : dedgecko
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  Here are mine. Yes that is a unicorn, it was a special 7th birthday request by my niece. http://sha... : DrillBit
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    Can't get Cromagsharken to load, others look cool though :D : jbury
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      Oh yeah I have parts not available in the demo. My bad. : DrillBit
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        No I have the full version of the game, I mean the png isn't loading in a browser or anything so I can't ... : jbury
        • typo in the url. needs to be .com not .co : yAak
        • Oh, wont load for me lets try this link http://shackpics.com/files/Cromagsharken_xtmwnj2u6smt5ows4pdu.... : DrillBit
  • Here are video from some of them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4KR_zTRoi0 http://www.youtube.com/w... : DrillBit
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  Is there a way to make the body sections not cylindrical? Like flat but wide? It seems kind of limiting ... : Modulus
  • No don't think there is :/ : jbury
  • yeah i was wondering that too, i wanna make some sort of Land Mantaray or something : filthysock
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbvbyzvXOOc : DingoStoleMyBaby
  • I really didn't want to laugh.. hahaha.. : stonedonkey
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    Keep your dirty penis goatse creatures away from my cute cuddly thread >:[ : jbury
    • but... he just wants a hug :[ : DingoStoleMyBaby
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  I wanted to make the characters from Bitey Castle but there's no way to put hair on creatures. WTF is wit... : dumb.
  • You can fake hair though - look at my furby in the op : jbury
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  My Ultralisk so far http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8913/creultralisk06831c76fulrg5.png http://img23... : moogle
  • Nice work : DrillBit
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    Zergling came out a lot better http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8097/crezergling06831c7afulzh8.png ht... : moogle
    • Zergrush! http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/4285/crezergling06831c7dfulnf7.png kekekeke : moogle
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    Go for this or go home! http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/hierop1.htm : dedgecko
    • Wouldn't let me add any more :( http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=cre06831c7efulji9.png : moogle
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  Anyone figured out how to make tails end in a point without having to attach anything to it? These big ro... : moogle
  • Agreed : DrillBit
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  err... I'm not clicking on anymore spore creature links at work : mrtony
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    My ones are worksafe I assure you : jbury
    • damnit, that first one has two giant vaginas sticking out of it's head : mrtony
• bigger furby pic: http://jbury.shackspace.com/images/CRE_Furby-0683777e_sml.jpg : jbury
• Here's my 6 armed bi-ped. http://youtube.com/watch?v=JhKgJwLBb8Q He used to have 4 legs, but he loo... : locash
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  I'm going out on a limb and saying "I made the best peeg" http://jbury.shackspace.com/images/CRE_LilPe... : jbury
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    How do I do the youtube stuff to show off my peeg? It says my youtube details are wrong, but i can connec... : jbury
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      You're probably using your YouTube username to log in. Spore needs the email address you used. : Arcanum
      • Ahhh yeah thats it, awesome thanks : jbury
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  A pair of twenty-two jointed legs? Yep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzG9m4vMo1o : Kaerof
  • That's awesome! Going to have to play about with that : jbury
  • holy fuck that is amazing, IT GOES OFF THE SCREEN : duncandun
  • I hope it doesn't get arthritis :-( : MisterPhoton
  • Knees are too pointy. : Bold
  • lol. : edgewise
  • Haha. : thejm4n
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    How do you make more joints on the legs? : DOOManiac
    • I am also wondering how to do this : jenisthebest
    • if you hold down control while attaching legs or arms, you can attach them to the joints or ends of other... : stgulik
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  Turtles! http://youtube.com/watch?v=TjQPQ6H3Los http://shackpics.com/files/Turty_i5i3040t7h8hamu2a9i7.p... : stgulik
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    How many Hitpoints does that thing have? : Kaerof
    • 50 iirc, i believe it is maxed at that. : stgulik
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  Question, Do you have to buy the Creature Creator & the full game. Or does the Full Game come with creatu... : historyinthemaking
  • The full game has creature creation built-in. : Arcanum
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    creating creatures is part of the spore game itself. this standalone thing is just if you want to experim... : pyide
    • Sweet, that saves me 10 bucks. : historyinthemaking
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      Wha? Can anyone that bought the 9.95 version confirm this? : Nitrium
      • I can confirm that there's nothing that suggests the creature creator for $10 does *not* include all the ... : Vincent Grayson
• Here's my Praying Mantits http://www.easyscreens.info/?v=3650 : voodooraze
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  I call her Yoshe, no haven't made a Yohe yet. http://img247.imageshack.us/my.php?image=creyoshe06836a11fu... : Ziz
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    er http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7233/creyoshe06836a11fulxo6.png : Ziz
    • btw is there anyway to turn the feet and arms around? : Ziz

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• http://www.steampowered.com/pyro/?pw=presspreview : sikander
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  it's awesome. I'm glad valve are up for making sweeping changes like this. Sometimes it's exactly what a : aeg1x
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    I can deal with a flare gun, I can deal with compressed air. But guaranteed flame crits from behind with ... : xjdrake32
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      as soon as you guys turn around the crits are done. if you've got any kind of reflexes you can probably m... : laurgasms
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        I agree. Compare the thread the other day where spies were compaining about the problems backstabbing - t... : Arctic Fox
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          Eh, the back hitbox seems to extend from the back to the face. : twifosp
          • No way. It's smaller than it was. : OmegaRed59
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        if a pyro starts critting you even for a split second, you're already dead : synapse19
        • ^^^ this :( : xjdrake32
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          have you played as a pyro? because if you have, you know this is not at all true. it happens sometimes, b... : laurgasms
          • it happens often enough that making it guaranteed and then giving the pyro more health than even the sold... : synapse19
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          Have you ever watched a crit sticky fly towards you? Survivability is usually low when crits are involve... : whistler
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            i don't know where you're trying to go with that... how is giving a pyro a pretty much guaranteed kill th... : synapse19
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              spies can get there without getting shot at constantly : RikiTiki2
              • and has 100 less health : synapse19
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              How is it any better than getting a crit to the back from thirty feet away? The demoman who shot it isn'... : whistler
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                because the demo crits aren't guaranteed? it's not like a critting pyro is suddenly going to turn int... : synapse19
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                  sniper gets guaranteed crit with a zoomed headshot : RikiTiki2
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                    Okay, let's clear this one up for all time .... the sniper headshot isn't a "crit" in the normal sense...... : dkrulz
                    • And backstab. : OmegaRed59
                  • no it's not. : synapse19
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                  If we're talking one-on-one, then any good player should be able to kill someone if they sneak up behind ... : whistler
                  • uh, pyro does something like 200DPS at point blank. the heavy lasts about 1.5 seconds without critting. : RikiTiki2
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        Crit flame does quite a bit of damage. Except for heavies, by the time you turn around you will be dead. : twifosp
        • That's only if they're nearly point-blank. The outer reach of the flames does practically nothing, and tr... : Zek
      • and seriously, how often are you going to have your back to a pyro? : Nali4Freedom
      • exactly, remember the dust cloud you anti-crit players kicked up over the kritzkrieg? and honestly how ma... : Dschinghis Khan
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      IA. I can't begin to believe they playtested that and thought it resulted in balance. : Merconium
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        Clearly we, having never played with these changes ourselves, are in a much better position to say whethe... : aeg1x
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          My issue with the balance is that it will unbalance the game until more unlocks are released. Valve shoul... : Merconium
          • Good post, that is exactly the problem. But I guess it's better than no unlocks at all! : twifosp
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            gameplay wasnt ruined when medic got their revision a couple months back, so I'm not seeing the trend tha... : kainen1
            • I'd say it was "hurt" on the shack servers--there were lots of medics (myself included, to be frank) who ... : Merconium
          • Me and my 1000th post agree with this man. : xjdrake32
          • if a pyro gets at a player's back, in flamethrower range, they should die anyway. and usually do. : ]pm[chem
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            Pyro crits are horrible at further than roughly half range of the flamethrower, because unlike other crit... : Zek
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              A vanilla pyro with no compressed air. : bcyde
              • ...and health only 2nd to the heavy : synapse19
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            WRONG. People said exactly what you are saying right now just before the Medic unlocks were released. Cry... : Jackass1233
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              I can't believe I'm saying this... I agree with Jackass. : Duffman8369
              • duffman loves me!!!!!!!!! : Jackass1233
            • I'd agree but you're comparing a support healing class to a combat class. I'd think its much easier to me... : xjdrake32
            • I don't think they're going to fuck it up forever, and I think the changes improve one of the classes mos : Merconium
            • Preach it brother. : NastyJack
            • Sing it sista!! : moneyshot
  • after the changes made from dod/cs to dod:source and cs:source, my trust is hard to gain : synapse19
• The air cannon has the potential to be really good and I'm willing to trust that Valve have tested it pro... : chazums
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  I just want the Soldier unlocks...he'll probably be last:( : .frame
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    Remember when soldier used to have 32 rockets? That was a lot of rockets. : sikander
    • I remember when he had 50! : AxeMan808
    • The middle of Well is especially difficult to manage when you start running out of rockets. : .frame
  • God I hope not =/ : xjdrake32
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    soldier & demomen (and maybe scout, sniper, and heavy) are the classes least in need of a balance tweak/... : YamatoTwinkie
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      i'm so curious about engy unlocks. : ass-street
      • turrets that snipe/shoot flames/sticky? dispensers that uber! : Agrona
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        I want the ability for an engineer to control the turret. That or give him a laser pointer that the turre... : theamazingrand0
        • oh, I was watching some "future fighting force" or something like that on History or Discovery Channel ..... : Nation
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      I could see a good pyro being an engineer's best friend now ... the compressed air can be the D for t... : Nation
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        Compressed air vs stickies seems like it would be nice. : bcyde
        • This was my first thought also. : Arctic Fox
      • As well as killing spies quickly... : dedgecko
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  I wonder if the crits from behind will work on sentries? : pieman
  • Crits do not work on buildings. : twifosp
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  how do you kill an enemy with a taunt? (in reference to the achievement) : ass-street
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    The "haduken" taunt apparently does damage? : Arcanum
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      That's what the icon makes me think. I've always wondered if it did. : zakazi
      • It doesn't, but presumably it will now. : Zek
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    you do it while theyre taunting : feek
    • thats how i read it anyway : feek
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      There is a different achievement for doing that. : chazums
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        oh. well maybe this is where you light someone on fire and then do a taunt before/while they die? : feek
        • There is also a different achievement for that. : Arctic Fox
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    Might be the shotgun taunt (hadouken) or it might be that you need to be taunting while your flames finis... : Dusty_Slim
    • yeah the icon looks like a haduken : ass-street
  • HAHAHA there are indications that the taunt may be an insta-kill if it lands. Golden if true. : Fayk
• bitch bitch bitch, bitch bitch bitch bitch : dodob
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  I asked this in the other front page thread, but do you think you'll be able to do compressed air jumps? : bcyde
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    yes. : ass-street
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      It's going to be hard to decide between the backburner and the regular flamethrower then. The added mobi... : bcyde
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        i was assuming the backburner had the air blast too...but i guess not having it makes more sense. : ass-street
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          I'm assuming the opposite. There's the OFFENSIVE loadout which is the backbuner (added 50 health) and ax... : kainen1
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            backburner is not O ... it's "thief" or "sneaky" Regular is not D or O ... it's "open" or "ok to be se... : Nation
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              huh? 0_o : kainen1
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                as opposed to thinking of the two builds in terms of O or D, think of them more in terms of this questio... : Nation
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                  The only time it's not okay for the pyro to be seen anymore is by a heavy. And depending on how powerful ... : DrFlammable
                  • On the contrary, current Pyros can not face Soldiers/Demos in the open. They get torn apart by explosives... : Zek
                  • that is with the regular flamethrower .... not with the backburner & the reason you don't want to be seen... : Nation
            • they're both offensive weapons, but i think the backburner is more suited for offense than defense : Mmmmmoo
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        The regular looks much better. The backburner will be the choice for those who enjoy it in it's current s... : razlebol
        • the backburner should actually make the whole 'ambush and sneak up on people' that was the claimed forte ... : Fayk
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        that's the point of the alternative weapons you unlock! they're not supposed to be upgrades : RikiTiki2
        • Yeah I know that, I meant personally it'll be hard for me to choose. : bcyde
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        gotta also keep in mind that the shack loves no-crit games, so the backburner may not be useful for much ... : Modica Sol Solis
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          does the critzkrieg become useless in no-crit? : RikiTiki2
          • Sadly yes, dunno if they're ever going to fix that. : Zek
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  i just realized that starting tomorrow, i won't be able to play Pyro because EVERYONE else will be alread... : Korban
  • yeah, tell me about it. : chazums
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    I went heavy during the medic achievements, it was a lot of fun. Try engineering, probably rack up a f... : pieman
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      good idea. i think i'll give sniping a go : Korban
      • pyros fuck up snipers you know : RikiTiki2
      • If you're good, you could do it. You'd be better off with engineer / heavy for anti-pyro duties, though. ... : Fayk
  • you should start playing spy. it'll be a nice challenge : Mmmmmoo
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  I wonder if they are using the same detection method they use for the spy's facebackstabbing? : pieman
  • Ha! Good point...Maybe they fixed it for the Pyro, and applied that to the Spy. There's an achievement li... : AxeMan808
  • Wow, that's even more depressing. : Merconium
• I think I like it. It makes you really focus either on being sneaky (getting behind people) or being ... : Nation
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  Keep in mind with the backburner that we have no idea how much fuel that sucker will cost. Who knows, it... : kainen1
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    unfortunately, it's pretty easy to dodge someone hell-bent on melee'ing you, unless you're a heavy (and m... : YamatoTwinkie
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      Oh I agree, but on a cp defense where to defend you need to be on the point, a pyro uber coupled with mor... : kainen1
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        I think an ubered heavy will still be king of that. Up close, the minigun does something like 2x more da... : YamatoTwinkie
        • Yah - I do too but dont you think that you'll see less ubering demos as a secondary option, and more brin... : kainen1
  • well, once you kill someone in 0.3 seconds, you can just pick up his weapon as you're already standing ri... : edgewise
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  Flare Gun << there's your flame grenade!! : dodob
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    I wonder if it will just aim and work like the demo's primary. : bcyde
    • I'll probably work like the QWTF pyro flame cannon : Rag and Bone Man
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    I doubt it'll work like a grenade. I think it will work more like sniper weapon. : razlebol
    • No, this has to work like a short range lobbing device. : redfive
    • I agree with bcyde. I'm guessing it will be similar to demo's primary. : dodob
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      i'm imagining it with the lob of the medic's dart gun...obviously it won't shoot that fast. : ass-street
      • That's what I was thinking. : OmegaRed59
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  BarbeQueQ and OMGWTFBBQ are LOL achievement names : dodob
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    *zing* I just got it. BarbeQQ. Instant classic here. : Dusty_Slim
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      I do not get this. Please explain? : Cottc Cid
      • http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=QQ+more+noob : Arctic Fox
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  I've just been looking at my tf2_playerstats.dmx. After 40 hours of play I have dealt 553322 damage :( : pieman
  • I have like 70 hours of pyro: "iDamageDealt" "int" "1219565" : RikiTiki2
• BEST MEET THE VIDEO YET!! : dodob
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  Hahahaha in competitive play the pyro just went from being the worst class to the best class with the hig... : DrFlammable
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    she looks kind of like a midget : dodob
    • it's the same tires I would want. : qu1nton
  • I wonder how much timing using the air blast will require. : Merconium
  • I would hardly call it the best class just yet. None of us have tried these changes. : FushigiDenki
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  how do you unlock them? : fletch_
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    by doing 12 / 24 / 36 achievements : bipolar
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      There are only 35 for the pyro, which means you can't unlock the axtinguisher. : Sze Ior
      • Presumably the existing Pyro achievements count as well, i.e. set five people on fire within whatever the... : evildanish
• The compressed air sounds like fun and I wonder if it will blow fires out too. If you burn someone and th... : Mmmmmoo
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  I'm half decent as pyro but holy shit these changes are just cruel and unfair to other people. Seems to m... : Audhuml4
  • cruel to noob to casual players but I'd be careful to assume some big revolution of pyro strength against... : kainen1
  • That's because the Medic didn't need a buff at all, they just got some tweaks for the sake of getting peo... : Zek
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  I'm really hoping the air blower doesn't fire the same way as the flame thrower, and that it has some kin... : DrFlammable
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    I expect the only difference between regular and alt-fire to be flame or no flame: http://www.shacknew... : Nation
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      I'm more inclined to believe it's a one-click, one-push thing. In game world logic, if you could push ... : dodob
      • This is also what I'd expect. THe only reason to not have it on a separate timer (since constant stream w... : Fayk
  • I wonder if the range is short like the flamethrower - that would be dangerous to the pyro to get close t... : sergeon
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  I for one think these new Pyro unlocks are totally fucking awesome. For too long the PROS ONLY shack TF2 : deject
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    the pyro doesn't even need the unlocks to be good anymore. The unlocks are probably even worse than the s... : DrFlammable
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      If the pyro wasn't the engineer's best friend already, well they just became best friends forever. : ant_hillbilly
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        JO Buddies for Life! : kainen1
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          Maybe they can create tornadoes with the air gun! : ant_hillbilly
          • I can't wait to get 8 pyros together and see how far we can shoot a scout. : Merconium
      • sounds like heavies and medics so whatever : RikiTiki2
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    okay your just wrong. I have long been saying the pyro is excellent. I EVEN MADE A VIDEO OF ME KICKING AS... : Jackass1233
    • Pyro has always been fun but needed help. Even in your post when you posted your video, you admit they co... : Fayk
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  The biggest problem I have with all of these unlocks is they are happening one at a time. To keep things... : twifosp
  • These are significant additions with new gameplay mechanics, weapons, achievements, and now even map load... : kainen1
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  Also, anyone who doesn't already have Pyro as their #1 or #2 most played class can't play him now. SORRY ... : skinlab133
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    exactly. Pyro has always been my favorite class to play. Now everyone is going to want to play them. :( : deathofrats
    • Who cares, just keep doing what you enjoy. : bcyde
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    i've been playing scout and sniper a lot, what i hate about playing sniper is every fucking hack player w... : fletch_
    • i am guilty of this, sorry fletch_ : indosauros
    • I think this disease plagues every FPS game with a sniper rifle. It's a shame too, because there have be... : Finestaut
    • i've been playing the spy and sniper alot lately too. i'm pretty good tho :D : AMikaboshi
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      I'll be your huckleberry http://tf2.4fite.com/player/dopeman/ : dopeman
      • better than me, but i just started playing it http://steamcommunity.com/id/fletch__/stats/TF2 : fletch_
  • Hah fuck you guys. Pyro and medic are my #1 and #3 class respectivly. I'm going to hate playing on serv... : Horn
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    we can't be selfish though. I'm going engineer for a while. my sentries hunger : RikiTiki2
    • that is, after I finish up my achievements. looks like I have mostly those new-weapons achievements to ge... : RikiTiki2
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    http://steamcommunity.com/id/laurgasms/stats/TF2 that is a big number. : laurgasms
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      why'd i have to spend 35 hours on sniper and 20 on demoman? i could have had you beat >:( : RikiTiki2
      • i lieks piros. : laurgasms
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      http://steamcommunity.com/id/bcyde/stats/TF2 I'm behind you, by a little, but that's just because I've be... : bcyde
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        i'm so far behind my fellow pyros D: http://steamcommunity.com/id/rikitiki2/stats/TF2 : RikiTiki2
        • http://steamcommunity.com/id/doctorsbaitso/stats/TF2 Pyro used to be my highest. I expect the pyro fin... : Fayk
      • i haven't been playing a lot recently, and when i do i've been switching it up a lot. but now i won't. bu... : laurgasms
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        http://steamcommunity.com/id/mmmmmoo/stats/TF2 I'm behind you by a little too. I don't play as pyro a... : Mmmmmoo
        • good lord : RikiTiki2
  • yes please :D pyro is my #1 played class, and I'm already decent at it...I can't wait for these updates : MisterPhoton
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    What do you mean we can't? I don't follow. : Merconium
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      It's like when N'Sync got popular, he got all angry and stopped listening to them. : hardfl1p
      • ^^^ This, but it was Backstreet. : skinlab133
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        Well I, for one, will gladly keep playing Pyro. Just with a renewed disdain for the transient fans. : Zek
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          see, i'm not sure whether i'll do the same, or go with a class that can more easily deal with inexperienc... : RikiTiki2
          • All the more reason to play Pyro, you've got to show them who's boss :P : Zek
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  I am optimistic about this. Here's why: The flare gun is situational, and perhaps more for "fun" than : ]pm[chem
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    Yea if you can air jump with the compressed air, I think I'm going to turn into a pyro bastard. : twifosp
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      I find that extremely unlikely, they would have mentioned it if Pyros could fly. : Zek
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        I think thats a reasonable assumption, but you never know. I mean if they can put in a flamethrower that ... : xjdrake32
        • it's the 21st century. we don't have flying cars. we may have flying pyros! :) : ]pm[chem
    • I don't see any evidence of that, but it's a cool idea and would be fun! : ]pm[chem
    • I would love that, but it would just be too good. Can't be true. : Fayk
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  I wonder what projectiles we're talking about here. I figure rockets, stickies and grenades, but how abou... : edgewise
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    Those are hitscan weapons so I doubt it. My guess is grenades, rockets, syringes, and stickies. May... : Horn
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      oh god damn that would be perfect for me. right now the best way to flamethrower duel is to backpedal whi... : RikiTiki2
      • While this usually works well for me (I usually win pyro vs pyro fights I have, if no teammates are inter... : Fayk
• oh well its nice since medic and pyro are my most played classes. : Hoax
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  co2 better have a hilarious farting noise when used : Foxhawk
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    i'm hoping its like a turbo blowoff valve : nem00
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      or whistletips! the pyro goes wooooo. but only in the mo'ning. that's when you should be up makin breakfa... : RikiTiki2
      • This is a necessary mod. : Merconium
      • Bwahaha! Custom Bubb-Rubb skin needed. : AxeMan808
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  achievement sillyness: Clearcutter: Kill 6 people with your axe in one life. OMGWTFBBQ: Kill an enemy w... : ]pm[chem
  • i've already done the last 2, so ;P : RikiTiki2
  • I did some grinding with my medic and still haven't all the achievements this time around valve can diaf.... : Hoax
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  Are the unlocks retro active? I really hope so since I do have quite a bit of time on the pyro. : shortbuscaptain
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    i hope so :( : laurgasms
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      me too, were they when the medics came out? : Nation
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        yeah they were : RikiTiki2
        • let the pyro achievement farming begin now ... since we know what must be done. : Nation
        • no, only some of them, like the total points healed one. : ]pm[chem
  • Sorry shortbus, you're gonna have to get almost all of these except the "inflict X amount of damage" achi... : dkrulz
• I enjoy playing the pyro class now. The air blast will make fighting soldiers and demos fun instead of ru... : mista mista
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  For those of you who missed it the first time: Pyro Highlight Video: http://jayx77.shackspace.com/Jackass... : Jackass1233
  • more pyros will get dedicated medic attention now, too. formerly a rarity. : ]pm[chem
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    Don't forget my clip that made the replay couch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsjXCVf_Yt0 you make an a... : bcyde
    • yeah i submitted mine but they didnt post it:( fuck those replay couch guys : Jackass1233
• I can't fucking wait to make you whiny bitches cry for nerfs. Pyro is my most played class and realistica... : graceofdragons
• Is it coming out today? : Nitrium
• Awesome, I guess BarbeQueQ won't be that hard of a achievement to get on you! : ovrlrd
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  quit bitching, the pyro can now compete with the demo's sticky bombs, etc, or at least counter them. i : Antilles_Prime
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    Now if only the Soldier can shoot at a pile of stickies, and not have them ALL roll straight toward him..... : AxeMan808
    • yeah, ive noticed how i tend to make that situation worse for myself.... lol : Antilles_Prime
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      You just have to really be careful to shoot at the front edge of a group of stickies and not in the middl... : Zek
      • I never shoot in the middle of them, I shoot between them and me, and they all roll at me. Maybe 1 wil g... : AxeMan808
• while I'm obviously ecstatic about the upgrade to my favorite class, the upcoming overabundance of way mo : lowpoly
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  threadjack - when is the ducks (gnomish) v. jackhammer (NDI) match gonna be? any duck or NDI care to com... : ]pm[chem
  • Probably after regular season is over or during the next two weeks...scheduling issues. : dkrulz
  • i think it's been postponed : Mmmmmoo
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    gnomish asked a while back if I was available for tomorrow night. don't know if it's on for then or not ... : alarm cock
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      I thought the same. Thought we were playing tomorrow night. : .frame
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        that would be exciting as hell, first tourney match after pyro patch. : ]pm[chem
        • I'd rather have it a day later, since this would mean basically the minute I get home, TF2 will patch up ... : taronish
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    We WILL NOT be playing on Thursday night. Due to a lot of scheduling issues on my team's behalf we have ... : FlamingGimp
    • ooo, it will be like a pre-playoff match. maybe even affect seeding. looking forward to watching! : ]pm[chem
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  Fuck. Yes. the Pyro only needs 15, 20 and 25 respectively for his new toys. http://www.computerandvideo... : DrFlammable
  • Yeah, this rocks and should change things up. :D : dmason
  • saw that in the shack front page article comments, too. good news (re: 15/20/25)! : ]pm[chem
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    guess that's for the best. pyro really can't do much airborne anyway : RikiTiki2
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      That's not the point, flight usually lets the person reach a destination faster (good soldiers and demos,... : DrFlammable
      • i know, but when i'm airborne, my inner Quake 2 player comes out and wants to rain rocket and rail death ... : RikiTiki2
  • Best news ever (on the #s) : Fayk
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    Valve say they still don't know how he'll fare against Demomen and Soldiers with this ability, but they h : xjdrake32
    • no fun allowed! : indosauros
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      It almost sounds like it may be difficult to reflect projectiles?? : .frame
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        It almost sounds like their internal testing is a big joke... I hope to god that "quote" was taken out of... : xjdrake32
        • Valve does more internal playtesting that almost anyone else around. I have full confidene that they won'... : cannelbrae
      • They put in a damned hard achievement if it is hard to do--reflect and kill a solly with his crit?!?! I ... : Merconium
    • I really hope that's a misquote and that Valve didn't just throw this stuff in with no clue about the bal... : Zek
    • wow... Pyro is starting to sound overpowered, but we'll see how this plays out. : K1Bond007
    • dont read that so literally, they are kind of playing around. I'm not worried. : kainen1
    • I think we if keep on discussing this enough we'll figure out the exact dynamics without actually playing... : sergeon
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  Any guesses whether the backburner will get NORMAL crits randomly still? Seems possible either way - sinc... : Fayk
  • pretty sure it'll crit normally : RikiTiki2
• TF2 is going to be so freaking awesome in a year or so when every class has their updates. I know I haven... : NastyJack
• I feel so bad for the last class to get their unlocks, hah! Honestly I hope it's the demoman because h... : NastyJack
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  I may have missed it in this giant thread but this is an important question: Will the compressed air be a... : NastyJack
  • Indications are that he will, but the question is whether when valve says it works in stickies if they me... : Fayk
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    You have to guess they can. Take a look at the pic of one of the achievements - it has a picture of a ro... : kainen1
    • I can't see this affecting anything other than against sentries. I usually detonate faster than they will... : NastyJack
    • As long as one of the demoman unlockables is lead-coated stickybombs - which cannot be blown away and dea... : A Sponge
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  These achievements seem fairly easy to get... You can knock most of these out easily in a week... whil... : chilln
  • Yeah i have put in over 30 hours as a medic since the update dropped, and I still don't have 10 of them. ... : lplasmatron