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  what is the bsod? second, use core temp to watch temps : oatmela
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    Do they get saved somewhere? : byorn
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      http://aycu15.webshots.com/image/43854/2004369968342728837_rs.jpg : oatmela
      • That is the same message I get : byorn
  • The keyword is 0x80000000000000 : byorn
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  speedfan - http://www.almico.com/speedfan433.exe it will monitor temps for all sensors in your PC as wel... : Shadowdane
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    WARNING - avg 7.5 and norton both show this file as a virus. do not download : loafsnort
    • its not a virus - http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php : Shadowdane
    • AVG isn't reporting anything for me : byorn
    • I have been using speedfan for a long time and have never had a virus. : Lightzout
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    OK, Speedfan is saying my CPU is running at 21C with little strain : byorn
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      Well crap...Core Temp is saying one core is running at 56C and Speedfan is saying it is at 40C : byorn
      • i tried to warn you >:( : loafsnort
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        what temp are you looking at in Speedfan.. mine lists temps for each Core. : Shadowdane
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          After BSOD and restart: Core 0: 35C Core 1: 31C Core 2: 30C Core 3: 28C : byorn
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            that looks fine... just for reference this is my temps on my E6600 @ 3.4Ghz at Idle. http://shadowdane.... : Shadowdane
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              But how hot should it be getting when it is really stressed? : byorn
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                well mine never exceeds about 52-55C at Full Load... if it gets above 70C I'd start to worry, it should... : Shadowdane
                • Yeah, Mine gets up to 58 under heavy load : byorn
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    This is what I use too. What temp. does it say in the bios when you boot after a BSOD? Do you have the s... : Lightzout
    • I am trying to fix an ongoing problem. I will get it to BSOD again and let you know. : byorn
    • I was using a Thermaltake, but it was crashing, so I switched to aftermarket to see if there was a differ... : byorn
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      BSOD is usually a driver issue isn't it? If the mobo detects its too hot I thought it would just shutdown... : Lightzout
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        Yeah, I just updated. When I just stressed the CPU, the computer locked up. :( : byorn
        • Using Prime95 to do this. : byorn
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          whats your Power Supply?? kinda sounds like a bad power supply were its fine if its idle, but goes all ... : Shadowdane
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            I am using a Thermaltake 750W and also tried the stock 750W PSU that come in high-end HP machines. Cu... : byorn
            • Does that sound adequate? : byorn
            • That should be more than enough. : mathyou
          • Also running a Raptor drive and a 8800GTX : byorn
  • lol I tried to run that and it gave me a BSOD. reboot and everything. My first BSOD in years that i can ... : Perturbation
• The Abit uGuru software that came with your MB with also display your cpu temp in realtime. But CoreTemp... : sexydingo
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  Question: What should my voltage be set to? Right now I have all the uGuru settings set to automatic whic... : byorn
  • Anyone know where to look this kind of info up? : byorn
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    Could you just reset the BIOS to defaults? That should set the voltage at a reasonable level. Alternati... : mathyou
    • After doing some reading, that voltage seems fine. : mathyou
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      yes, set it back to complete defaults and not overclocked, and see if it passes the test. Then you can wo... : mmogger
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        unfortunately that is default :( : byorn
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          uGuru on automatic is not default settings. :( set that shit bone stock, not OC'd at all. : deject
          • There does not seem to be a "default" option in uGuru. There is just Automatic and User Define. In the ma... : byorn
    • Those are default. I cant seem to find info on what the voltage should be set to. : byorn
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  Use Coretemp... http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/ : Tripps
  • yup, using that now : byorn
• core temp : blarrr
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  Ok, One more question: What should my multiplier be set to? Currently it is 6 : byorn
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    sorry. It is set to nine. Which is the max : byorn
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      IIRC it should be cycling between 6 and 9 depending on the workload as a power saving/temperature measure... : Sailor of Fortune
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        it doesnt look like it cycles since you have to pick a number between 6 and 9. It did seem like 9 was ove... : byorn
        • but....CPU Temp is reporting it is running 266 x 9.0.... : byorn
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  THANKS FOR THE HELP! After messing with EVERYTHING ELSE it appears the clock was set too high (272 instea... : byorn
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    Seriously...you guys rock. : byorn
    • Glad you got it figured out. I went to sleep but I was hoping other people could help you narrow it down.... : Lightzout

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  I was under the impression it was going to be a series. : prime8
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    god help us : SolrFlare
    • seriously : AlexXdude
  • I hope not. : lodit
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    If it is, they need to recast everyone, except Val. : Frozen Pixel
    • was Val the lesbian-surfer-fbi agent or the nanotech expert-professor-defense contractor? : Gonzo
  • Technically it is going to be both a series and a movie. They are completely different projects though an... : ovrlrd
• Lets hope it is a one time thing? : TreMetal
• who else thought val kilmer was totally wrong for kitt? : elwood00
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  what level are you now dude? : wtf242
  • my paladin is 49!!!! : multisync
• I bet it depends on the ratings. It probably did amazing and will get a series, followed by a cancellati... : Lionhart32935
• I'm not sure. The "movie" was essentially a pilot but I'm not sure if they intended to make their decisio... : Prozium
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  I was really looking forward to this and all it really was, was an ad for the car. Any chance they got th... : Madwacker
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    I was kinda ok with the Mustang whoring, and expected that. What I wasn't expecting was the completely a : riptyde
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      but everybody in that car lived. isn't that a good advertisement? : elwood00
      • Only the inventor and lead bad guy lived, and I was under the impressing the guy in the driver's seat was... : theo20185
  • it was'nt terrible, ended quite well i thought. agree on the car ads, had never seen the car before thou... : VuduChild
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  I heard there was not one incident of the car jumping over something? Is this true? : zakk
  • that's true, but the semi is now a plane : elwood00
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  the pilot was worth it for one scene when the guy drops the chip in the car and KITT brings up a picture : -=kodiak=-
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    spoiler tag? seriously? : elwood00
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      yes, seriously. : -=kodiak=-
      • It's not necessary. : ieGod
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    Yeah the only thing I really liked about the show was the pictures KITT would always show to go along wit : riptyde
    • I immediately thought of GlaDOS I'm sure that's where the got the idea too. : kek
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  I just watched that finally earlier tonight. I'm not sure what I watched, it felt like half of the "actor : Frozen Pixel
  • Yeah, by comparison The Hoff game an oscar worth performance. : Prozium
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  I can't even remember if I watched that show last night. Three pints during American Gladiators :( Th... : alarm cock
  • The only thing that matters is that Monica won and hopefully it means we get to see her in more tight spa... : riptyde
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  I've never seen algorithms this complex! : brollercoaster
  • Yeah what was that all about? My wife and I just looked at each other like "algorithms?". : riptyde
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  anyone else notice the not so subtle poke at alternative fuel vehicles? when they said that I had to sto... : smacknca
  • You leave Nebraska alone! : brollercoaster
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    I didn't see the show, but I'm assuming you're talking about KITT in your post. The Mustang is not a GM ... : action wombmate
    • if it was we would still have will arnett as kitt, DAMN why did they have to change : Chandler55
    • yea sorry i get the damn companies mixed up, i hate to say it but i will. all american vehicles are the ... : smacknca
• I read it was a "backdoor pilot", which is a hilarious thing to name anything IMO. I leave the meaning to... : razorblade79
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  Knight Rider was worse than Bionic Woman which is a feat. Bad actors, direction, and script. So disappoin... : Reavers!
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    As I said the other night, just wait until the new Airwolf: http://gallery.mac.com/jvalice#100181 : SolrFlare
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      Oh you're so not allowed to mess with me like that, I'd have paid money to see more airwolf... next I wan... : FS|Archangel
      • Streethawk! : jbury
• i've been watching the original series on TV while in japan. just saw this version. very transformers. ... : radula

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  nordstrom.com ! : FrayLo
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    ^^^fgt : FrayLo
    • i just bought a couple 200 dollar pairs of jeans from Nordstrom, and a couple 50 dollar pairs from Americ... : diddlyd
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  My American Eagle jeans crotches and back pockets never lasted more then 6 months with all the bike ridin... : not work safe
  • You were jeans when you bike ride? : broly1718
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    those really slim pants they sell at urban outfitters are ridiculous i tried a pair on once, im a waist s... : mr.sleepy
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      i believe they're designed for angst filled teenage boys who like to dress like girls. : bfzzzz
      • not work safe? : Ebu
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  JNCO!!! : askedrelic
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    Do they still exist? : freshyk
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      I had a pair like 10 years ago. : askedrelic
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        I used to have a pair of JNCO's that were basically like 2 huge skirts around my legs : mr.sleepy
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          haha seriously. whats wrong wtih that! : askedrelic
          • Now? Almost everything : mr.sleepy
  • Those fucking owned. I wore them so much in 5th grade. The bigger the patch of a cartoon thug on your bac... : h o s t i l e
  • Sup Juggalo : tomservo
  • Ohhhh God. Getting flashbacks to high school. OH GOD. : genjuro
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  What the hell is wrong with Levi's you hippies! : GeorgeB3DR
  • werd. : noobja
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    Do levi's make a low-rise boot fit? I don't think they do. It's the year 2008 George : mr.sleepy
    • http://www.holdmyjunk.com/lowcut.jpg But boot cut is out of style thanks to Wranglers, unless you wear... : snuff
• Jeans are for cowboys : spiderfill
• Shepler's or Allen's Boots. : noobja
• Macys, nordstrom rack, or express. I like paper denim, guess, and calvin klein to get spesific. : mojo the helpr monke
• target levi slim fit low rise boot cut. $20. : anthonybean
• i'm liking Luckies lately. Mavi's are nice too. : gyokuro
• whatever they have at sale at costco : lacker
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  Where ever O can find yhrm the cjeapest./ : xZanU
  • Ummm... I need to look at what I am doing. : xZanU
• I love AE jeans. They've gotten a little shittier in how long they last but they fit better than anything... : Super Sparker
• I'll throw some love to AE jeans, too. I have a couple pairs that I really like. : ckaps
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  express mostly : wtf242
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    Yeah I'd get express jeans but they fit way too huge : mr.sleepy
    • they have different cuts. I can't stand AE jeans. they are always too baggy and cheap : wtf242
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  EXPRESSMEN : mrvandelay
  • Yup. It's a nice balance of cost + quality + style + cut. Ambercrombie's is also pretty good. : warcrow
  • I like the quality of their jeans but I don't like any of their loose-fit styles. : freshyk
  • I also get most of my jeans from here : sexydingo
• Faded Glory. : freshyk
• random thrift stores. Two favorites: Buffalo exchange and Crossroads : sparkly
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  currently i like lucky jeans. : dahanese
  • i had a lucky hat once but the dog ate it :( : Dave-A
• Old Navy. Tried Banana but their jeans don't let my ass jiggle the way I want it to. : ateam311
• AE jeans are cool if you're in highschool or maybe college. Outside of that ... If you want something... : ra1n
• ROSS - Dress For Less! : Juno
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  I just go to Nordstrom, pick out three or four I like, try them on, and normally end up buying the most e... : rossimo
  • /\ cool dude : feek
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  Anywhere that has 34x36 in stock. :[ : Ebu
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    Would AE have my size on the shelf? We apparently have one in town. :/ : Ebu
    • long legged mfer. i get 34x34 there, but i'm not sure if i've seen 34x36. and i feel your pain. i've got ... : diddlyd
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    I haven't seen 34x36. 34x34 is hard enough to find :( : afrochops
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      Really? I see those fuckers everwhere. :( : Ebu
      • Also, 34x36 is considered "Big & Tall" so most stores don't stock it. The fuckers. >:( : Ebu
• I like ghandi jeans. : re4ctor
• Buffalo : HeXoN
• I wish I had room to have more clothes :( : Squirrely
• all my stuff is american eagle X_X : jane911
• Anyplace that has 33x34's in a loose cut jean. Usually Fred Meyer if it has a sale going. : sKetchflow
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  diesels last forever. 7's are nice (but kinda gay) : fotografico
  • exactly why I dont mind spending the money on a pair - i love diesel jeans and dkny jeans : mankeroo
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  http://selfedge.com and http://blueingreensoho.com/ : shitkatapult
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    lol the real jeans thread starts here : askedrelic
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      lol yeah i just clicked on that soho store. without trying them on i could never buy them, but yeah, $20... : FrayLo
      • yup, soho store is new to me, but I've found selfedge before. I definitely want to visit if I get out to ... : askedrelic
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  Lucky end of the year sale. Hurray for 50% off $120 jeans that fit beautifully. : d3tached
  • this is what i did, it was great. of course i was with my mom and i don't know what's up with her but she... : dahanese
• where Wranglers are sold : reverend~heresy

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• Also, Digg it! http://www.digg.com/software/Newspond_The_ultimate_tech_and_gaming_news_engine_NEW : ventro
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  i can tell you were involved because the graphics are all pretty and smooth : electroly
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    the way you handle input validation on the registration page is really hot : electroly
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      Yeah, the animations are nice. I should use Yahoo JS for my next project. Prototype/Scriptacolous seem ol... : sikander
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        Nay, Prototype is still the bomb diggity. : airrob
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          Yes, I love Prototype.. but scripacolous doens't seem up to par with mootools, extjs, Yahoo, jQuery etc : sikander
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            Scriptaculous is definitely lacking compared to some of the newer libraries. I think it's main problem i... : ThomW
            • It has a nice set of Effects, but it's widgets (Sortables, Sliders) haven't kept up with the other librar... : airrob
• looks pretty hot. I'll have a read tomorrow : itsjames
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  Congrats on the launch! I will keep it in my bookmarks for work, gl. : D45hiz
  • Wow, and nice design, everything feels slick. : D45hiz
• Very slick, nice design, hell even the activation email sent was well done. Haven't explored too much, b... : Matt Burris
• neat site. great idea! : pyide
• Damn that looks nice, and sounds like a cool idea. Jealousy++ : ThomW
• looks great. good luck and looking forward to visiting it as much as i visit reddit, delicious, digg : sikander
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  the death of shacknews? :( : darkT
  • Relax, Steve will buy ventro out : Mondo
  • well, this is more of an aggregator. or skynet perhaps. : Dave-A
• your about page is purty : aeg1x
• holy crap, this is hot. good job! : snagger
• ooh shiny : Goncyn
• this is cool as shit, will definitely be visiting this daily to see how it turns out : qwpeoriu
• Wow that site is slick. One suggestion: provide RSS feeds for each category. Other then that, it's pret... : Perturbation
• Hmm.. you can get a commentator's IP address when going through the comments.. might want to hide that st... : sikander
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  really, really nice : Frozen Pixel
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    Once you have a decent user base, and if you had a daily chatty, I'd post there and forget about the shac... : Frozen Pixel
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      SHUT IT DOWN! : ThomW
      • thankfully clay isn't a part of newspond : Frozen Pixel
    • :( : AlexXdude
    • That's messed up :( : Hiro
    • I didn't realize anyone forced you to post here. : Jonathan
• So what site gets the link from a story that has high buoyancy? For example, the MS HD DVD story had some... : Porkasaurus
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  Please don't show the password in the confirmation email? You don't know what server that is going across... : airrob
  • i agree with this, only complaint tho : mwasher
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    Yes, please don't store passwords as plain text if you're not forced to :( : sikander
    • just because it's sent as plain text when you register does not mean it's not encrypted in the database. ... : wtf242
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    We were originally going to not put it there, but I know I constantly forget passwords to sites and I am ... : ventro
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      Why can't you just generate a new password for users if they request one, and then offer a chance to chan... : Ovate
      • ^^^ Please don't store plaintext passwords, and never email them. Allow verified (via email) password res... : mockery
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      Uh, as strongly as I believe you shouldn't send passwords in registration emails, you definitely shouldn'... : airrob
      • And on a related note, we need a way to change passwords. :O : Barnahog
  • I agree, that bothered me too. : Lightbulb
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    Does it really matter if someone gets your password to a site like that? What are they going to do? Why w... : ArB
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      a lot of people use the same password for everything : OrkO
      • Well you can't bitch about sites securing passwords if you don't secure your own ;) : stonedonkey
• Reading the About page, makes me fear for the lives of the people behind the site. Sarah Connor will def... : Matt Burris
• Extremely, extremely shiny. Looks awesome. : Yanks
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  pretty awesome guys are you going to do other types of news as well? : trOmblyj
  • We want to first focus the engine on building the most useful Tech and Games news sites out there, and th... : ventro
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  Dugg'd! Can I take out some advertising space? :D You guys need to release an RSS feed. Or better y... : notd665
  • Two more things. 1. You should seriously consider selling an API. I'm sure a lot of people would be in... : notd665
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  hot! : mwasher
  • i like the wiggling comments : mwasher
• That is extremely attractive, well done. : xZanU
• cool stuff! : snicker-snack 2
• I like the design of everything on this web page, especially the comments. I wonder how well it would ho... : Maddog_Delphi97
• cool beans.... kinda funny that your digg article might end up there. lol. : thewriter
• Well done, it looks great! : paravis
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  when i put in my username and password to log in, nothing happens. : pandastrong
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    What browser are you using? There are two different login boxes, one on the main page on the sidebar, and... : ventro
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      I'm having the same problem and I've tried both login boxes. : Mmmmmoo
      • Nevermind. I didn't activate the account :p : Mmmmmoo
• in regards to the comments I think the chat bubble should indent to match the post in the same way the sh... : aeg1x
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  absolutely beautiful. added to bookmarks toolbar : blarrr
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    I have a suggestion though. And you may see this as heresy, but I want to vote. Maybe you could allow rea... : blarrr
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      Don't worry, your actions do subtly sway the algorithm at sort of an abstract level, by clicking on artic... : ventro
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        Let me clarify: I want to click a vote button. Maybe you could add up bouyancy + votes, and then allow re... : blarrr
        • or just totally discard the user votes in the void and tell them their vote counts : electroly
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          We dont really like this because there's a difference between what you really think is cool, and what you : ventro
          • which is why you give voting a minimal weight. like 10 votes to one bouyancy point or something worthless... : blarrr
          • I agree with you 100% Chances are users can digg the individual stories by visiting the source(s) anyh... : InfoBiter
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            What you miss are those unique gems carried by only one site. That's what Digg is really known for though... : Porkasaurus
            • Totally agreed. I visit both Digg and Newspond daily, and neither makes the other irrelevant. Digg has be... : ventro
• I love the design : riptyde
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  Looks really slick. Hope you do well. : Fred Garvin
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    Oh, do you have a mobile version planned? : Fred Garvin
    • yeah iphone version please! : xxiv
• Groovy, this looks interesting. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  Interested in bug reports? If I click on a reply comment (so that its text replaces the text of the th : Johnny Law
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    Good call. I guess we never really noticed this because it was just me and LucyLuBot chatting back and fo... : ventro
    • It's a very tasty site BTW. : Johnny Law
• Shit, this is really slick, I want to use it because it is so shiny. : Rice-Rocketeer
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  I never got my password sent to my email. Checked my junkmail, and nothing. Created the account about 4... : brickmatt
  • same here, never got confirmation email. : Nali4Freedom
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    Interesting. I haven't created a "resend activation email" script yet so I will just activate you and Nai... : ventro
    • Logged in now, thanks! : brickmatt
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      Add me please, I still have not received an email. : silaslang
      • Thanks, ventro! : silaslang
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      I also am having this problem. : sKetchflow
      • What username did you register under? I can't find a "sKetchflow". : ventro
    • thanks, logged in now :) : Nali4Freedom
  • Me as well. : FPSDavid
  • Hmmm me either, created an account last night. : vital3d
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  did you build this off of something, or is it all from scratch? what type of environment? (ruby, php, ..... : mwasher
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    The news engine is all python, the site is mostly php, and we use JS for all of the interface stuff. The ... : ventro
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      cool, guess i was more interested in the engine itself. python, tho, interesting! : mwasher
      • guess this makes sense tho for text processing : mwasher
• add evening reading and I might switch :( : thief
• looks fantastic, congrats on the launch! : MikkleThePickle
• no RSS feed? : brollercoaster
• This is pretty much the same concept I've been working on in my very limited spare time. Your website is ... : thecray
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  Bug report: I just made an account and haven't gotten my confirmation e-mail. More importantly, though, ... : Ovate
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    Hmmm this seems to be a reoccuring issue. Perhaps it has something to do with our mailserver not being ab... : ventro
    • yeah I didn't get a confirmation e-mail yet either. Super slick site though, I wish you the best of luck... : phipple
• cool site, I like the design and layout, but you need a smaller theme I can barely see any content :( : re4ctor
• Damn, I love the design. Very sleek. Nice job! : Tripps
• Very nice. Do you come from a print design background by chance? : omnova
• Can we start gaming the system now? I think shacknews stories should get an automatic buoyancy boost. : Dave-A
• creepy. are you funded by the NSA? : biskits
• what the hell is a spond and why is it new : snagger
• dude, that's pretty hot. the design is amazing. the concept seems really cool. i can see you're going ... : carnivore
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  Well done, I bookmarked it so I'll be checking it tomorrow : Zoesch
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    holy crap.. i somehow totally missed that you were back! : fatman
    • also, ventro and lucylubot's site is hella cool too. : fatman
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  Awesome work. You have plans for an iPhone formatted version? : Serpico74
  • if we were to ever do do something specific for the iPhone, it'd have to be a native app, not a web app. : ventro
• I would almost like a headlines mode that looked like an RSS reader. Drop the blurb and the blue bar. ... : Porkasaurus
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  MAGIC THE GATHERING ON XBLA!!!!!!!!!! : Ebu
  • Damn nice site, by the way. : Ebu
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    unfortunately there's no way it'll use any model other than the MTGO moneysink one :( I would die for a s... : derelict515
    • Oh for sure. I kind of like the MTGO model, so long as they don't (haha) overprice the virtual cards ... : Ebu
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  Interesting, I just finished building the exact same type of platform. : FiReaNG3L
  • Now all I miss is a cool designer : FiReaNG3L
• really nice looking, added to my bookmarks : infallible
• i like how the comments 'move' when you hover over them, preview would be really cool : zagzig32
• This is really awesome man. Bookmarked for sure... Might make it my homepage. Beautiful concept as a ... : Danny5225
• How I do RSS? : aggressor
• lol at the 404 : jono181
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  Problem: when I click the category name like Tech or Games on the Buoyancy bar thing, it tells me the pag... : Mmmmmoo
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    Good call, added to the list. Thanks! : ventro
    • Awesome site, btw. : Mmmmmoo
• Looks great, I will definitely frequent this site : sexydingo
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  nice job fgts. I will use this site. : steelsamurai
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    also glad you didn't web2.0 the name and call it kogloggo.com or something retarded like that. : steelsamurai
    • god i fucking hate web 2.0 : SockMonkeh
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      Thanks. Also you won't notice any BETA tags or invite codes. The site is a work in progress but we're not... : ventro
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        you should get an animated construction worker sign : crummynz
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          http://www.animatedgif.net/underconstruction/anim0206-1_e0.gif : fatman
          • Dragondrop. : airrob
• One of the nicest sites I've seen. Good job : bozer
• google will be buying you within 6 weeks. well done. : Downforce
• This is sweet. Working great for me (some categories seem to be empty but I'm assuming that they're suppo... : Tekmoor
• Also, I love your Half life saga story guide : sexydingo
• Needs more pictures. The site, not this post. : Albemuth
• very interesting. : ]pm[chem
• Holy shit nice. Bookmarked and registered, I'll keep an eye on this just out of curiosity. Good job! : Begawkiness
• can i have sex with the comments? cuz i'm gonna : fletch_
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  Eh? No confirmation email yet, and yes I checked the junk email folder :( : noobja
  • You've been manually activated. This issue has happened to a handful of people. Perhaps it has someth... : ventro
• Apple did a great job with the design on this one. : stuka
• Beautiful looking site! Good luck you two! : d3tached
• Very slick, nice! : dodob
• I wonder if any of the big dotcom's will buy you out... : phipple
• Pretty slick. : K1Bond007
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  how static are the news items? I've checked the page once every few hours since this post and it's been t... : aeg1x
  • It all depends on the rate of newly surfacing stories. Right now it's pretty late and it's pretty slow. ... : ventro
• OMG SHACK 3.0! j/king Nice site. : NFXFSX
• The comments are very pretty. I noted this under an article but thought it might get more notice here: ... : crummynz
• Wow that's really awesome -- at least for the design. I think I'll have to wait and see how good the alg... : Kentor
• When I click on anyone's name in the comments, it always goes to chan's profile. Beautiful site though. : slax0r
• hmm that dreamspark thing is pretty interesting. MS taking a big approach to inspire more home game desi... : smacknca
• The page is ultra-slick, very well executed design, I love it! I hope you guys make a fortune with it ... : razorblade79
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  Very nice site. So... you create newsposts and then a little blurb (with your own title) and then your so... : Magus
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    We don't intervene at all. Newspond is completely self-sufficient. It is continually reading the news fee... : ventro
    • Thanks, you've doomed us all. : d fluke
    • That is fucking cool. : chazums
    • Skynet has gone online : nomaad
    • You know what I love about that? It can't be turned into a liberal orgy fest, like what digg has turned ... : paravis
    • This scares the shit out of me. : Sebastian-TEC
    • oh nooooooooooooooooooooooosss : mmaster_pw
    • o_o : hardfl1p
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      Isn't this the same thing that Google News does though? It also searches news sites, and ranks them up as... : tashtego
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        oh I see, you're doing it with tech & gaming news, not actual news. carry on! : tashtego
        • not actual news :( : SilverSnake
• Very cool, I hope you add RSS feeds too, this has a lot of potential. Definitely look forward to seeing h... : ovrlrd
• The site automatically kicks ass since it allowed me to put a space in for my username unlike the majorit... : Wombat Woo
• Out of curiousity, does this work in a way similar to search engine spiders? : FPSDavid
• That's awesomely bloody awesome. Think you've replaced Digg reddit for me. : johnsto
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  Someone needs to make a Google Gadget to remind me to go to this site all the time! : Sebastian-TEC
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    I'm planning to make a google gadget and a facebook app to view newspond news. I'll let you know. : LucyLuBot
    • Excellent. : Sebastian-TEC
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      Vista sidebar thingamajing too plix! : SilverSnake
      • Poor unloved Sidebar :( : Ebu
• Please don't send passwords in confirmation e-mails. :( Site is freaking awesome though! : yoonix
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  RSS + Mobile versions, plz. Other than that, fucking nice. Congratulations. : Deathlove
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    We debated a mobile version, but the iphone can display the whole page pretty well.. Are you thinking ... : LucyLuBot
    • Something like diggriver or alterslash would be really, really nice. Minimal everything. : johnsto
    • I was thinking more like m.cnn.com or mobile.chicagotribune.com. Just the bare essentials. : Deathlove
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  Looks like our digg post is about to pop if we can get a few more http://www.digg.com/software/Newspond_... : LucyLuBot
  • dugg! : yoonix
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  That's completely awesome. All your websites are so pretty ventro. : pieman
  • Questions: Does the robot read the whole feed or just the title when working out buoyancy? Did you have... : pieman
• Great site. I forsee this being the site where I go for non-gaming tech news all the time from now on and... : Evil Benius
• awesome site man! I just made it my home page.! :) : g0nk
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  great looking site. anyone else have problems with pages loading? i click on page 2 or next page, or hit ... : festivalman
  • Hmm wierd.... Open up the javascript error console and see if you have an error... Let me know, we tried ... : LucyLuBot
• http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/02/19/mixx-launches-related-items-pages-digg-should-have-done-this/ Sub... : sharkII
• you should probably put <noscript> tags in the template so those who don't have js turned on don't think ... : sikander
• my only comment is that there is no cool rollover on the site logo. With everything else being so cool I ... : marmite
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  you should probably put <noscript> tags in the template so those who don't have js turned on don't think ... : sikander
  • hmm.. odd : sikander
• Really awesome! bookmark'd! : silent prophet
• This very nice - I didn't use Digg but this I like. : Jonathan
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  this is impressive. created an account and bookmarked. : xxiv
  • this is a new daily visit for me at the very least, if not a permanent open tab. well done! : xxiv
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  Any suggestions on how we could get the word out about newspond.com? : LucyLuBot
  • i'm already using office communicator and emailing it around to friends/coworkers. : xxiv
• Very clean site, one thing I noticed is you may want to obscure emails within the site or be prepared to ... : stonedonkey

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  Yes, retail cables are a huge ripoff. Biggest scam there is, etc. My favorite example is a $36 cable ... : DinK
  • The best I ever saw was recently at best buy, a premium TOSLINK optical cable with GOLD CONNECTOR. Serio... : jimmy_legs
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  14 bucks here - http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023102&p_id=228... : bugsY
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    monoprice is the place dude : jeolson
    • yup, that's where i got my 35ft optical toslink cable, shit only cost like 10 bucks. : bfzzzz
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  digital is digital. : brollercoaster
  • ..as long as it meets the reqs of the protocol standard. :) : biskits
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    Digital still incurs losses. It's not some magic end all format, and build quality affects performance in... : ieGod
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      but digital is not like analog cabling where you can always get a few % improvement by using better shiel... : electroly
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        It's not just about packet loss, you also have to consider bit error rates. The physical medium is alw... : ieGod
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          i like you. :) also, to summarize your statements: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16294097 : biskits
          • So, if it does not meet the standards of the protocol (or 0's are interpreted as 1's), what happens with ... : crummynz
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          normally, error correction would take care of most bit errors in digital signals. but HDMI doesn't use e... : electroly
          • This is all pretty moot though for a cable that short. If you're going to be stringing 100ft of cable, th... : Delusional
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          perhaps so, but any half assed assembled balanced cable (like HDMI) should be good for 100's of feet. Y... : gibbo
          • I don't disagree with that, I was just pointing out this notion of "it either works or it doesn't" is (no... : ieGod
• http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240 : infiltrator`
• $3.72 http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3952&seq=1&fo... : Dechter
• Just wow. It's so wrong to charge folks like my parents who don't know any better ninety fucking dollars... : kek
• Its digital either it works or it doesn't ignorant people are a great source of revenue. : hashd
• Don't forget your GOLD PLATED optical cables! http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/601-6782998-0600153?A... : MR 9000
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  monoprice, monoprice, monoprice. : dravalen
  • This was exactly what I was going to post. : crummynz
• Well... there is huge (huge) markup in retail stores, but quality cables will be more expensive. In gener... : ieGod
• Definitely go with monoprice. Best $5 I ever spent. : sexydingo
• If those items weren't so expensive, then you would find it made up for elseware. These stores make less ... : TrptJim
• One more for Monoprice. Treated me great and quality is better than store bought in a lot of cases. : Tripps
• http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=181-730 : khaosman
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  There's nothing funnier than audiophile cable reviews: This was all over the net last year, I still ne... : TabsAZ
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    Anjous are rather pricey at $2750 for a meter pair YOU DON'T FUCKIN' SAY : brollercoaster
    • Holy shit. Those better be made of unicorn tails. : dirge23
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      I sold 9 foot speaker cables that were $10,000 a pair (bi-wire too!). They came in a briefcase, from Mons... : pancake humper
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        Holy cow, what did you blow that money on? : sanchez
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          I dunno, I worked for Tweeter for a long time. I was on commission as my job. I had a very rich client wh... : pancake humper
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            Any idea what the actual cost of those cables were? I'm sure they're the best quality there is but the ma... : sanchez
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              I can tell you on our $200 component video cables 6.6ft in length, my employee cost was around $72 I thin... : pancake humper
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                I work in retail, we sell a 6ft USB printer cable for $25.99, our cost is about $3. We sell a shit ton of... : sanchez
                • Oh, there is a "gold" version of that cable for about $15 more...sigh. : sanchez
                • Yep, I used to work for Best Buy too. Everytime I see those purple/gold blister packs now of USB/Firewire... : pancake humper
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            "The best"... according to someone's marketing department lol. These people who claim to hear diffe... : TabsAZ
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              As someone who has been invited to Monster Cable, toured their facilities and actually spoke to the creat... : pancake humper
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                Also, let me know how those $80,000 speakers sound with lamp wire. : pancake humper
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                  I don't know jack shit about speaker wire, I bought some cheapo (18 gauge I think?) speaker wire from Rad... : sanchez
                  • Buy within your budget in audio. I never sold a system without taking into consideration the connections.... : pancake humper
                  • Going up in gauge would probably help for larger speaker like that. 12-14 gauge would be more than enough... : DarkWolf5
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                You've sold a $10,000 speaker cable. Anything you say on the subject is immediately suspect. : Bold
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                  Why? I don't have brand loyalty or anything like that. Hell, none of my shit hooked up now is with Monste... : pancake humper
                  • But your other arguments sound pretty flimsy, like the part about cats chewing on cables, or avoiding a d... : Bold
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                  The people are rich and he gets an over 2k commission. You would be stupid to not sell it if that's what ... : DarkWolf5
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                    So that means he's trustworthy? If anything, you've proved my point--anything he says is immediately susp... : Bold
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                      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=51387#itemanchor_16295680 except for specifically mentioning monst... : DarkWolf5
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                        What are you trying to link to? : Bold
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                          oops: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16295652#itemanchor_16295652 : DarkWolf5
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                            "Buy within your budget" is terrible advice if it leads you to a $10,000 cable. If the customer asks, ... : Bold
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                              Clarification: I would never (and have never) sold a more expensive item for no reason other than to secu : Bold
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                                I try to be as honest as possible in my retail job. I've talked customers out of a sale sometimes when I ... : sanchez
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                                  Right, but there's a difference in selling a customer a cable that's $40 too expensive, and a cable that' : Bold
                                  • But they come in a nice briefcase! lol : sanchez
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                              You seem to also be ignoring the part where he says buy 2 or 1 and compare and use the one that sounds be... : DarkWolf5
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                                You're ignoring the point of this subthread, which is the $10,000 cable he sold. Care to comment on that? : Bold
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                                  You are saying his advice in untrustworthy because he sold someone an expensive cable. I frankly don't kn : DarkWolf5
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                                    I said his opinions are suspect; I never claimed every bit of advice was completely 100% wrong. Since you... : Bold
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                                      For your average person, I would say buying within your budget is good advice. That's good advice for pre... : DarkWolf5
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                                        But what does it even mean? If you interpret it as, "buy the most expensive item that's still within your... : Bold
                                        • Holy shit monster cable raped you as a child. I was merely bringing into the conversation my experience w... : pancake humper
                              • Also, I didn't say, "RAWWR,everything you say is wrong! RAWWR!" I merely pointed out that he's not a repu... : Bold
                        • Oh, your previous post? So, you feel that the $10,000 cable was worth the money? If so, you're just as de : Bold
              • Ugh, speaking with the creator and touring the facility have nothing to do with any of this. : devi| dog
  • Awesome 12 foot pair ordered!!! : hashd
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    Conductors are terminated with a gold plated copper crimp, installed under extreme pressure promptly afte : nurglich
    • But it's permanent, so unlike all your other cables it won't spontaneously unravel. : dirge23
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    man I would LOVE to do a blind (uh, deaf?) sound test with a bunch of identical speaker systems using var... : mikecyb
    • It's been done - these jackasses fail every single time. There's hilarious defenses of it too on that Po... : TabsAZ
• when i worked at compusa usb cables were marked up like 1000 percent according to the inventory computer.... : feek
• If you don't need a really long cable, just get the cheap one. monoprice has great cables at sane prices. : afrochops
• I loved the special subwoofer cable best buy told me was required to make my sub work. Wow, looked like ... : ra1n
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  I remember reading somewhere an article how stores like Best Buy and CompUSA didn't get hardly, if any, p... : Matt Burris
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    Oh, and when I went to buy my Xbox 360 at Best Buy a couple of days after Christmas, they were sold out o... : Matt Burris
    • Whenever I hear people talking about Monster cables, in a serious manner, I die a little inside. : brollercoaster
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    Yeah, the mark up on TV's(among other "core" items) is pretty low unless it's older. Accessories are abo... : devi| dog
    • Jesus, proofread THEN post.... one day I'll get it. : devi| dog
• This is why I hate mega-corps. : Sebastian-TEC

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• You're doing it wrong. : mittense
• you're probably wrong : Clay
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  lol are you serious? : laurgasms
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    I just checked your stats. I have 1.4 hours compared to your almost 90 as a pyro and i have a better one ... : Warmaker
    • Well mine is better'n yours, and I still say you're doing it wrong. : action wombmate
    • You are looking at individual stats in a team game. I bet her team has a better win percentage than your... : OmegaRed59
    • ...and I have better stats than you do, for pretty much every class (other than demo and sniper, which I ... : YamatoTwinkie
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      I don't play for stats, and if you do, that's what you're doing wrong. I play to fuck up other peoples ga... : laurgasms
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        . . .. if you're not getting the points, you're just filling up their team's uber meter? : Grimp
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          nah. most of my points are from assists. i can get 10 assists and that only adds up to 5 points in the ro... : laurgasms
          • I have a similar play style. I'd rather keep the other team off balance, prevent them from having time to... : vynn
        • Rubbish. The only points that actually matter are the team points (for capping or defending or whatever -... : frib
• You might be doing it wrong. : action wombmate
• definitely doing it wrong. : manero
• is this a troll? cuz wtf : thewindcriesmary
• your doing something wrong : okellyc
• could it be you're doing it wrong : Scoots06
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  An ubered pyro is an awesomely terrifying thing. : daedraug
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    Yeah, as a medic I look for pyro's when I have uber. Especially for assaulting engineered positions (like... : crummynz
    • And a demo can clear even more. Especially in that gated tunnel. : FlamingGimp
    • if i had to uber any pyro, it would definately be laurgasms : Dschinghis Khan
  • ^^^ Knows what's up! : GonzoRookie
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  ubered pyros in the right situation can totally tear shit up : tunis5000
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    I've seen ubered pyros absolutely wreck capture points with 6-10 opposing players on them. : basketofkittens
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      Heavies and demos can do the exact same thing. In fact, an ubered demo can kill that entire group with a ... : Warmaker
      • Yeah, but as a pyro you're already on the capture point when you kill them, so the odds of capturing it a... : basketofkittens
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        they all have their place in different situations. I play pyro a lot, and yeah sometimes it feels like I... : tunis5000
        • I never said a pyro was useless with a medic. I said that the other offensive classes are better with a m... : Warmaker
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  Is an ubered pyro better than an ubered demo or heavy? No, it is not. : Warmaker
  • It can be, depending on the situation. Pyros are excellent at causing distraction and chaos. An ubered py... : Scoots06
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    Do you need to be reminded that Pyros are way faster than heavies who are spinning their barrels? : action wombmate
    • Yeah, heavies are good for moving up and holding a position, pyros can actually catch and kill people run... : daedraug
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    wrong, uber pyros are the worst thing to encounter because everyone starts running backwards and the amou... : eldiablo01
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      Pyros have to run up on people to do damage. Soldiers, heavies, and demos can attack from multiple ranges... : Warmaker
      • Ubered demos, I agree, are exponentially better sentry clearers. The problem with heavies is that they c... : YamatoTwinkie
  • Yes, it can be. I truly enjoy ubering pyros. : freshyk
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    utterly wrong. With a reasonably skilled medic/pyro team, under almost any circumstances, it's better to... : YamatoTwinkie
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      Yep, people that play in competitions are all wrong. And the fact that servers are dominated by heavy/med... : Warmaker
      • Pyros aren't found in competitions for two reasons: A. The class, overall, isn't as good (or as vers... : YamatoTwinkie
• Fyi, you are doing it wrong. : lodit
• Alias? : brickmatt
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  Can someone give a single rebuttal to my points besides i'm doing it wrong please? : Warmaker
  • You are doing it improperly. : lodit
  • YOU ARE CONDUCTING YOUR ACTIVITIES INCORRECTLY : alarm cock
  • You should try doing it correctly. : godhatingatheist
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    You're doing it wrong (and there have been lots of rebuttals in this thread). : ieGod
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      Really, because the first 14 posts were all your doing it wrong. Also, so far the only thing people have ... : Warmaker
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        Just like any other class, you have to know when and where to play a pyro. They're great at repelling : alarm cock
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          Thats a good point about them being an ambush class. Thats another area where i can see them excelling, b... : Warmaker
          • A good offense checks for spies. A good pyro cannot be checked. : whistler
      • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16293396 : action wombmate
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    You have to play the Pyro more like a Spy or a Scout than a Soldier or a Demo. Find ways to flank the ot... : action wombmate
    • ^^^ knows what's up. Pyros are supposed to flank and take out support classes. Go against a heavy and you... : Arctic Fox
  • Your position is implausible? : godhatingatheist
  • You're doing it wrong, please. : DOOManiac
  • Pyros are also good at breaking up ubering medics and causing havoc in clustered points. Sometimes its ju... : Lightzout
  • yes. : thief
• I agree that it's not one of the best all around class but it can be useful on some occasion and they can... : razlebol
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  I see this a lot and all I can say is "bullshit". Wanna clear out a room? Call in a Pyro. Want to ke... : Thresher
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    Again, other classes are much better at softening up classes than pyros. For you to successfully do what ... : Warmaker
    • Hell no, I can do the same thing whether they see me coming or not. I move very fast. Soldiers have tro... : Thresher
    • I haven't played much as a Pyro but in the time that I did, it helped my team win. I get uber'd and I ... : das_runt
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    Oh, another thing, Pyros should concentrate on killing support classes when they aren't running into a pa... : Thresher
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      Lol, id love to see a pyro kill my medic when im a heavy, its not going to happen. Pyros are a point blan... : Warmaker
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        So you're attacking as a heavy, and you and your medic get flamed. Do you: 1) swing around and look for... : whistler
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          I can count on one hand the time i've ever been flamed by a pyro as a heavy with a medic, other than in t... : Warmaker
          • Then you haven't played against any good pyros. Don't get me wrong, this isn't due to your skill, it's d... : whistler
      • Yeah, but even if you get me, I've set your medic on fire and weakened him (maybe he'll even die from the... : action wombmate
      • You're doing it wrong. Hit and run. The heavy cannot turn as fast as I can run around him. And quite h... : Thresher
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    yeah they are the "kamikaze" class. sure you don't get a lot of points, but that doesn't really matter. ... : tunis5000
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      any class that requires you to die to be effective is broken imo. Being a man down is almost always more ... : aeg1x
      • No, you dying and half damaging all of them can be effective. : crummynz
      • If you run into a room trying to flush out people, you pretty much expect to die. No other class can run... : Thresher
    • that would be really cool. : anhero
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    But seriously, as far a as a game goes, who the fuck wants to play a class like that? People want points. : great-white
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      Personally, I get a lot of satisfaction out of it. : Colleton
      • I used to. Pyro was my favorite class long ago. But it just gets so old always being low on the point scr... : great-white
    • That's why Valve plans on implementing points for catching people on fire as well as killing them. : crummynz
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    bah, uber pyros can barely take out two sentries depending on placement; 'nothing can stand up against it... : thief
    • yeah uber pyro is good for screwing up a standstill, like trying to cap the last point on dustbowl which ... : mikecyb
• please god no more splash damage crits : datoo
• It's not so much that they're worthless, they're just worthless in certain situations. Any wide open are... : sinner0423
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  This thread has inspired me to start playing the Shotgun Pyro similar to the Pistol Spy. : DrFlammable
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    pistol spy is the best. Man those crits fucking rape. : aeg1x
    • Pistol Spy is actually called Stickup Guy :| : A Sponge
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  Even if your argument is true, please consider that pyros are meant to attack groups in close quarters, a... : anhero
  • ps. light up people, run away facing them with shottie. if they follow you around a corner, light them up... : anhero
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    Ubered demo > Ubered pyro -- always. As an Ubered demo, all it takes is one crit sticky or grenade and t... : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Are you kidding? Taking out L1/L2 sentries as a Pyro is a cinch and L3s are easily doable when they have ... : Modica Sol Solis
    • I didn't say anything about uber. : anhero
    • http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=eREkQ1qJ7ug I've taken out many a sentry and had many of my own lvl3 sen... : IcomeINpeace
    • Pyro's can mow down sentry's with a circle strafe. They can also catch odd angles with the flames, but t... : Pneum0
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      As far as "best ubers" go, I'd consider it highly situational amongst pyros, demos, and heavies. Demos... : YamatoTwinkie
      • Cause some of us care about ubering medics. : Grumbeld
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  I think they suffer the same problem as the engineer class. That is, while the two classes may be very s... : Grimp
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    I can see how that would be possible, but I wish people would stop thinking in terms of what's "best" and : action wombmate
    • Oh, generally I have no problem with what class people choose to play. I just wanted to add a little mor... : Grimp
  • Funny because they are my 2 favorite classes.. =/ : Pneum0
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  Uber pyro on the last cap point on dustbowl is painfull for the attacking team...nearly EVERYONE on the a... : okellyc
  • ^^^^^ One of the top Shack heavies (Venguard) endorsing Pyro's usefulness. : Xevo
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  I'm inclined to agree. Pyros just aren't that great outside of ubers. I love playing pyro with a friend b... : aeg1x
  • Yep, they are just not exceptional, with the exception of guarding engineer equipment from spies. : Warmaker
• A pyro can slow down a rush from the other team.. he/she can set a bunch of people on fire and their imme : sikander
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  The fact that you haven't even really played the class and you decided to make this post is just stupid. ... : lplasmatron
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    Really, what crappy teams are you playing that let an ubered pyro push all the way through and destroy th... : Warmaker
    • Uh... I do that uber pyro rush on dustbowl stage 2 all the time. : crummynz
    • At the very start.. when the gates go up. It happens all the time... : Scoots06
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    p.s. They absolutely destroy medics, scouts, snipers and spies. You can also destroy a sentry at pointbla... : lplasmatron
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      Pyros have no chance against good snipers, and even less against good scouts unless they catch them by su... : Warmaker
      • As a Pyro, you are always looking for spies, which means that you don't travel in a straight line very mu... : Thresher
      • Good snipers and scouts maybe, but most people aren't very good at TF2. : lplasmatron
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        You're still not really listening to what people are saying. If I charge at a halfway decent Sniper from : action wombmate
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          I acknowledged that pyros are good in an ambush. You are not reading what i wrote and accusing me of not ... : Warmaker
          • You're also ignoring the fact that even if a pyro doesn't kill someone, he'll delay them as they run off ... : lplasmatron
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            Well you pretty blanketly stated "Pyros have no chance against good snipers". What the hell was I suppos : action wombmate
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              Don't worry, I don't think we'll convince him of anything. He's obviously stuck in his "pyros suck" think... : lplasmatron
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                Wow, i answered your points, and your rebuttal, most people suck at tf2 so pyros are better than scouts a... : Warmaker
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                  If pyros are so bad then how do I routinely play as #1 on my team as a pyro? You never even play them tha... : lplasmatron
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                    I routinely place #1 as every class, and im sure i could probably do it as a pyro if i chose, that doesnt... : Warmaker
                    • NERD RAGE : lplasmatron
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                well he could apply the inverse argument to you :P : aeg1x
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                  Except I've actually played the class quite a bit. He hasn't. Arguing points you have no clue about sure ... : lplasmatron
                  • he is offering compelling counter-points though. People are needlessly ridiculing him instead of addressi... : aeg1x
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              My response was to iplasmatron. I said against good snipers they dont, and ill stick to that. Occasionall... : Warmaker
              • I conceded that other classes can probably be more useful overall in a bigger variety of situations than : action wombmate
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          Finding a sniper who is zoomed in looking across the map is one of the perks of being a pyro. It's one of... : Colleton
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            only a shitty sniper stands around zoomed in :( : aeg1x
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              Happens all the time. : Colleton
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                yeah, people suck. I don't think being good at killing a shitty player is indicative of a pyro's strength... : aeg1x
                • I've killed spies that were hanging out on the battlements on 2Fort. As they come out, I just fire strai... : Thresher
                • It doesn't mean they suck. Snipers have to be zoomed in to be effective. If you can come at him from some... : Colleton
      • Isn't catching them by surprise the whole point? Pyros are to flush people out of their holes, not to ch... : DinK
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  As somebody who likes to play medic, let me tell you Pyros are terrifying : DinK
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    Haha, what? Pyros terrify you as a medic, one of the very best classes to face them in the open? If a med : Felraiser
    • No, im wrong and need to play more fool!! : Warmaker
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      I dunno, I'd say there are pretty few places where a medic can come out on top vs a pyro. : crummynz
      • I made a non-comprehensive list! Note: This assumes that the medic sees the pyro, as the pyro will (of... : Felraiser
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      Yeah, too bad things like facing single enemies at range and using damage-causing weapons are luxuries fo... : DinK
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        The operative phrase there is "pyro who gets in range" - simply put, this cannot happen without great pla... : Felraiser
        • You sure make getting in range sound harder than it is. All it takes for that to happen is a corner, an ... : DinK
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      lol, how about a medic healing someone and thus unable to fight back? every class has a class that outma... : mikecyb
      • But the scout can also do this. if not better than the pyro, and also has a much greater chance of gettin... : Grimp
  • Agreed: pyros are the most dangerous class for medics. : itsjames
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    As a pyro, NOTHING is as much fun as toasting medics. Seeing them turn to run away, screaming. Their litt... : Colleton
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      But according to the other replies if you start over there and I start over here and nobody else is aroun... : DinK
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        Sometimes you do get needled, esp. if you're stupid enough to run straight at a medic who isn't doing any... : Colleton
        • But charging... and needles... 1v1... =( : DinK
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  useless isn't the right word. Situational is probably better. I'd say if a pyro plays it close to the ves... : edgewise
  • exactly, the ubered pyro will be chasing your ass down, and unless you're a scout you're not going to out... : deject
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  you're a pyro ...you don't run you charge and you charge relentlessly. Yes they will eventually take you ... : IcomeINpeace
  • the biggest problem with a dedicated medic though is that the pyro is pretty unequipped to protect the me... : edgewise
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  Your parents were doing it wrong : Magus
  • haha, lol. : Colleton
• I disagree, though I do think a effective team should limit itself to one, maybe two pyros. I like the ot... : Vangoghs Ear
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  >:( : RikiTiki2
  • You cant make sad faces, i got you a ds! : Warmaker
• Maybe. Just maybe. But it can be so much fun. And that is what counts the most for me usually. : carrioN luggagE
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  Easiest rebuttal: Engineer. : TreMetal
  • So, you're trying to say Engineer is useless? I can't agree at all with you there. : Pneum0
• Dude, no. Pyro is great, you just have to remember: use the shotgun often. : Cliffzorz
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  There are two things that the pyro absolutely excells at, by far better then anything else: 1) Buildin : alias
  • lol alias post : deject
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    yeah it's a bit like christmas if you're a medic and a rambo pyro sets half your team on fire. Uber meter... : aeg1x
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      didn't they speed up uber time and get rid of uber grinding all together? : IcomeINpeace
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        Only for the startup uber. Grinding still works after that. : Warmaker
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          holy crap..had no idea : IcomeINpeace
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            Yep, as a medic you should be trying to heal as many people as you can. You can still have soldier and de... : Warmaker
            • Works well to have soldiers and demos rocket/sticky jump to accelerate attack speed and get back to fight... : alias
      • only during setup time : deject
  • alias post : SockMonkeh
• You're doing it wrong. Nothing inspires panic like a pyro ambushing you, except an uber pyro. You're di : deject
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  pyro's are great for guarding sentries from spies : gyokuro
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    lol, I'm sure a lot of people spawn with the goal of protecting a sentry : oatmela
    • well u could also flame each team member as u pass them by to check if they are a spy! : gyokuro
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      ive done this numerous times. i play defense pyro quite regularly. if they have 2 spies, you'll be an ass... : anthonybean
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        yep. people dont know how much of a team based game this is. with a pyro you can cover 2 turrets easily a... : gyokuro
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          Ok then, one demo and one medic show up, uber ... And... you die along with both sentry guns. : alias
          • they'll be shooting at the turrets. So you go flank them while they are doing that. Uber wears off. Dead ... : gyokuro
          • lol, that would likely happen with any class, goofball. : anthonybean
• I really enjoy the pyro. It makes me play cautiously to a point, then wrecklessly if needed. The speed ... : Pneum0
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  As much as I enjoy playing the pyro, I am forced to agree. The pyro is just so limited by range in any ma... : sergeon
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    right, like I said above that's what it comes down to. Lack of utility. Outside of ubers and constricted : aeg1x
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      I was thinking a special shotgun that shoots a tight group of pellets. Or a crossbow with flaming arrows... : Pneum0
      • Crossbow with flaming arrows would be a fun extra weapon for the pyro :) : frib
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      I think the Pyro needs his incendiaries back. And after all, he has that grenade belt on his body, so it ... : Modica Sol Solis
      • I've said it before: Napalm. I want to light items on fire that will burn for a bit and cause burn dama... : Thresher
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        yeah but it could get really spammy. Imagine incendiary spam on the last point on dustbowl... a few pyros... : aeg1x
        • Or flame traps, that could be interesting... : Modica Sol Solis
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    Like all of the classes, the pyro has it's strengths and weaknesses. Large open areas are not a pyro's fr... : Colleton
    • I think your last point is the fundamental reason why the pyro will continued to be played. It is an adre... : sergeon
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  pyro is all about ambush. that's where it's at. there's nothing like sneaking up behind a group of about... : anthonybean
  • Nicely said. : Colleton
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  The problem for pyros is the amount of health packs around the maps. The majority of time i get lit up b... : boredguy
  • I wonder if it would be so bad if medkits didn't stop the burning. : Modica Sol Solis
  • This is true to some extent, but if you set 7 guys on fire, only one of them can pick up the health pack. : frib
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  Actually, after playing with you the other night, I decided YOU are the most worthless class. Seriou... : rosewood
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    What are you talking about? What is your personal attack grounded in? I never talk trash, or badmouth any... : Warmaker
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      Was it not you playing yesterday evening? : rosewood
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        The only game i played on the shack yesterday was on the last point on dustbowl. I came in halfway throug... : Warmaker
        • Then it was some other war____ or ____maker. So I confused you for some idiot that was engineer griefi... : rosewood
• "They are a one for one class if that. What do i mean by that? If i am a soldier, i can take out multiple... : OmegaRed59
• pyros can cover a hell of a lot more ground than a soldier or heavy. most important tactic is to try to t... : arcane_
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  Warmaker: pyro sux. Shack: ur doing it rong! Warmaker: NERD RAAAAGE : sasoi
  • seems like more people are insulting him than the other way round. : aeg1x
• Most annoying class in the game, please don't argue to make it more powerful. :( : dkrulz
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  Pyros, like spies, are mostly about psychological warfare. If spies didn't get 2x per backstab, they'd... : brickmatt
  • Whatever, I'm right and everyone else sucks. : brickmatt
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    I'd also say that the success of the pyro also depends on the team as a whole much more so than any other... : bcyde
    • Pyros can help a lot if you are trying to establish a front or suppress and enemy team. When you have the... : SockMonkeh
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  on a side note, anyone think the pyro is the cutest in art, how can u hate the pyro when he walks around ... : Chandler55
  • He is so misunderstood. : Lightzout
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    He has the best ubers, by far. : crummynz
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      Ugh, I meant taunts. : crummynz
      • i agree, pyro taunts are the best. also: demoman grenade launcher and engineer shotgun taunts are pretty ... : Mmmmmoo
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    He is probably also a she. There's what looks like a purse in the Pyro's locker in all the spawn areas. : action wombmate
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      maybe it's a european carry-all? : anthonybean
      • It's small and has a flower on it. : action wombmate
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  pyro is the most useful class if you want to burn things. : Mmmmmoo
  • actually, i like playing pyro because he's a quick little guy who is effective at ambushing people and cl... : Mmmmmoo
• I'd like to chime in. I'm not the best pyro on the shack, but I'm decent. I play as doctor.sbaitso. Th... : Fayk
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  This thread is awesome. We should combine all the best Shacker TF2 suggestions into a mod. We can call ... : romulan
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    Would we end up with Quake 3? : bcyde
    • Ooh new class! The Crackwhore. : romulan
  • You're joking, and I'm not saying we should take the ideas in this thread, but nothing makes Robin Walker... : taronish
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    I think DrFlammable had the right ideas: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=16224584#itemanchor_16224584 : omnova
    • Haha, wow, he really hit the nail on the head. : crummynz
• Pyros are the second best class to play if you have shocking ping/rego/lag to the server (engineers are t... : Alco23
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  what the hell, pyros are the best class to uber in the game imo : feek
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    depends on the situation... i find demos extremely awesome to uber, as well as heavies depending on the p... : bfzzzz
    • They rock at taking out engineer's stupid buildings as long as they are accessible. Shit, i was doing it... : feek
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  Holy shit it's like the WoW class forums all over again. NERF SHAMAN/DEMOMEN AM I RITE? : SenorSpine
  • well those nerf calls are solid, but still fall behind NERFING WARLOCKS : Downforce
• disagree. still voting engineer. pyros in the hands of an AWARE player are devastating. one of my fa... : Downforce
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  Proof pyro sucks: http://rosewood.shackspace.com/tf2/pyro/pyroteam.jpg - Surely a team made up of all : rosewood
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    NEWS FLASH: ONE OF PYRO'S BIGGEST ISSUES GOES AWAY WHEN YOU HAVE MORE MEDICS THAN WOULD APPEAR IN A REAL ... : Fayk
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      i think his claim is that it *was* a real game. having lots of medics is often a good plan. : electroly
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        Er, yes, it was 'real' but hardly your average game. Also, logic test: On a team with all pyros and me... : Fayk
        • yeah, it should've been a medic : electroly
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          The screen shot was to show we won the round. that doesn't show who lead in points (hint: it was a pyro)... : rosewood
          • Haha, look how high on the list Bouncing Bunny is though, no wonder you guys rolled over that team. You ... : daedraug
    • Did you even see the other 2 screen shots? : rosewood
  • you are good at tf2? Man you need to get the word out, all i hear is rosewood sucks. : VuduChild
• i play pyro, i'm good at stuff. : fletch_
• Pyros use a flamethrower. Automatic win IMO. : dodob
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  A wise man once said, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG, WRONG http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY : Kaerof
  • ^^^^^^ This man could show you what a pyro can do. For seriouses. : vile
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  Anyone who thinks any class is useless has not played that class enough, or studied it. Every class is... : EvilDolemite
  • But not every class is cowardly! Only the cowardly demoman deserves such praise! har har! http://... : thief
  • But not every class is cowardly! Only the cowardly demoman deserves such praise! har har! http://... : thief
• 1.4 hrs as Pyro? Get serious. : Magus
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  I agree that Pyro is the weakest. It's not the range though. It's the damage. DoTs are effectively use... : Nullzero
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    nerdiest thing i've ever read to be honest : JINKY
    • You don't read much, do you? : heartsauce

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• ok : electroly
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  everyone i know with a zune has had it break inside of 3 months. lame. : deadfish
  • The new model? : tKillbox
  • My brother has had his for about a year now with no issues whatsoever. : Begawkiness
  • My friends had one since launch, still uses it daily. : great-white
  • mine and my friends' zunes are fine. our ipods on the other hand... : broly1718
  • I've had one for a few months and I take it to the gym 4 times a week. I haven't had a single problem wi... : Horn
  • My Zune has been fine. My two iPod Shuffles, however, have bit the dust, which I would have never expect... : SinistarX
• ok : Durandal07
• TROLL! : noobja
• I work for Microsoft : tKillbox
• Fuck Yea Brah : Mondo
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  The Zune store sells DRM free music? Uh... you sure? : crummynz
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    1millionish DRM free songs yes. : tKillbox
    • Oh, that's sweet. : crummynz
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      What format? : Githyanki
      • That's the best part, they're plain ol' MP3. : Helter Skelter
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  the new update for zune software makes my zune not sync. : thief
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    oh. now it works. neat. : thief
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      you're welcome. : fletch_
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        do I owe you anything, now? : thief
        • your gratitude is enough citizen! : fletch_
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  Would you like some kind of medal ? : taronish
  • Do I get a choice? In that case, yes I want a medal. Thanks. : tKillbox
• itunes no matter what creates tons of duplicates :( : mankeroo
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  I like the Zune's interface the most and how it turns itself on when I unlock the door to my car as it re... : Sailor of Fortune
  • The iPod does this as well. : ovrlrd
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  I am sorry but the only true thing you said was that the iTunes does suck running in windows (especially ... : ovrlrd
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    Oh and I just now read the "I work for Microsoft" part. Nevermind. : ovrlrd
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      I don't really work for microsoft. Furthermore, I liked the fact that the Zune would grab info for the so... : tKillbox
      • and I'm not gonna say the Zune is better than the touch because that's in a whole different ballpark alto... : tKillbox
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  You do know that itunes 7.6 has proper vista (even 64bit) support right? : Toraz Chryx
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    except alot of X64 vista users are having issues with the latest iTunes. My iTunes times out on anythi... : kevp
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      were those x64 users careful to download the x64 version? : Toraz Chryx
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        your right, I forgot my monitor was off! : kevp
        • yes, the correct file was downloaded. I've uninstalled and reinstalled several times and it doesn't fix t... : kevp
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          what? No, seriously, I was asking if it's the actual itunes64 that people are having trouble with. : Toraz Chryx
          • yes, the problem is specific to Vista64 users who installed the latest x64 version of iTunes : kevp
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  Not all of the music is DRM free. Some albums have MP3s available, some don't. Let's not exaggerate. ... : SinistarX
  • I didn't say all of it was DRM free. I said roughly a million songs. There are 3mil in the store. No ma... : tKillbox
• Plus if you use Vista as a media center it will auto download your recorded shows onto your Zune. My wife... : Fyunch Click

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  • Indeed it is. : bcyde
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• Work is the curse of the drinking class - oscar wilde : deadfish
• Pain is a private address. Only those who have been that way before know the unlisted number - Ian Flemin... : K1Bond007
• "You can't say that civilizations don't advance, however, for every war, they kill you in a new way." -Wi... : Sailor of Fortune
• It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. - Aristotle : deadfish
• "ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge" - Charles Darwin : deadfish
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• wherever you go, there you are : feek
• I haven't slept for 10 days, because that would be too long. - Mitch Hedberg : Jenings
• Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance. - Winston Churchill : duncandun
• " You are never a failure as long as you try to get back up" - Evel Knievel : majorFracture
• A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more str : woddemandred
• "Men are never more ingenious than in the invention of games." -- Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz (although ... : Johnny Law
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    Please god tell me you get the point of that movie. Please god. : brickmatt
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      You have to tell me what it was that I posted that caused you to ask me this question?? : mr.sleepy
      • Only if you tell me the point of the movie first. : brickmatt
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        He thinks you're pissed off. : sKetchflow
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          I posted a quote from a movie and now my insight into the plot of the movie is being brought into questio... : mr.sleepy
          • but the Waynes brothers had nothing to do with it. : sKetchflow
          • SLEEPY YOU HAVE FAILED ME FOR THE LAST TIME. : brickmatt
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      Does it even matter? The quote is taken out of context, I'm sure the majority of the quotes listed here ... : naios
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        It matters as to which level you're appreciating the quote. : brickmatt
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          WELL THEN WITH YOUR INFALLIBLE, OMNIPOTENT INSIGHT INTO THE STORY OF FIGHT CLUB WHY DONT YOU TAKE A MOMEN... : mr.sleepy
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    this is indeed an awesome quote. : Charmplus
    • yes but do you get the point of the movie? : steelsamurai
• The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well b... : mockery
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    I like his "Never leave until tomorrow what you can do today." : Mondo
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• "I spent my 30's trying to fix what I broke in my 20's" - Eddie Murphy : majorFracture
• Louis Armstrong - "There are some people, that if they don't know, you just can't tell 'em." : action wombmate
• "I believe that vampires are the world's greatest golfers, but their curse is they'll never get to prove ... : slax0r
• "MRWRWRRAH RHARHWAH " - Chewbacca : qwpeoriu
• I don't know who said it first but "It's your world, I'm just living in it" has always been one of my fav... : NastyJack
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  "I fooled you, I fooled you, I got pig iron, I got pig iron, I got all pig iron." : zanzares
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• “The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who think.” - H... : bugsY
• "DNF is gonna 0wn!" - Dognose : losimagic
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• "Suck one cock and your branded for life" - not quite sure : shavenewok
• The first 90% of the code accounts for the first 90% of the development time. The remaining 10% of the co : DianeOfTheMoon
• "If all the girls who attended the Yale prom were laid end to end, I wouldn't be a bit surprised." - Doro... : BlackCat9
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  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del's_incompleteness_theorem , for anyone who's interested. The best... : bipolar
• 'All we are is dust in the wind dude' - Ted Theodore Logan. : deafstarr
• "Never explain--your friends do not need it and your enemies will not believe you anyway." - Elbert Hubba... : Nitrium
• Why seek to undertand death, when we don't understand life? - Confucius : jackalope
• "These days, most people's idea of a secret is something you only tell one person at a time." - Oliver Ma... : johnsto
• "God gave men both a penis and a brain, but unfortunately not enough blood supply to run both at the same... : minigomp
• "She's gone, she's gone. Its over, man. And you're never going to see her again." : Squirrely
• "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them." - unknown "You say that it is your cu... : wozzeck
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  • ah what the fuck : buzzbat
• A long life eating porridge is best! (from Yojimbo). : Orange Pylon
• In my first year I was taught about the slide rule. They said, "The slide rule is important. Without it y... : Jonathan
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• Are these for Civilization? I nearly posted the 'pigiron' quote, and then I remembered where I last saw i... : rock elf
• "No one rises to low expectations" - Jesse Jackson : OwenButler
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• Oh dear god today the shack is bringing me such joy and laughter. I love you guys. : Lionhart32935
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  :( : pancake humper
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    buck up lil camper : drucifer
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      today was pretty rough even without the image shit. I'm gonna go kill a squirrel for you and for me. : pancake humper
      • :( : drucifer
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    LESS CRYING MORE LOHAN : elwood00
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