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• I'm your huckleberry I did clan play for TA/CTF/and CTFS back in ... "the day" : hatelull
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  I'd love to, but I'm a euro and guessing you don't want me lagging up your game >:[ : jbury
  • I'd love to join aswell. But alas, I'm from europaland too. : ysbreker
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  I wish, but I'm too damn old and too much other stuff going on now days I don't have the time. : sigpro
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    This is the shack, and we're all a bunch of "old bastards." I can't see any of us save the kiddies willi : hatelull
    • Pretty much. I used to play cal-i/p in CS but now with 2 kids + 2 jobs there is no fucking way I could ev... : sigpro
    • yeah, that's how I'd feel about it. I'd totally be up for a casual clan where we play the occasional mat... : hawkeye
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  If it's a real clan, and not a 900 player behemoth list, Yeah I'm looking. East coast. I just quit WoW... : Slowtreme
  • welcome back to life! : Str8Dog
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    Yes, I want it to be limited. Offense squad, Defense squad and at most an A and B team. : rosewood
    • Or East / Central; Mountain / West : rosewood
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  I'd love too as well - anyone want to start a west coast team? : hirez
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    I may be in the market for a west coast team. BTW what town is your server in I get great pings there? : hashd
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      Sacramento CA. 10mb full duplex fiber line from surewest.net =) : hirez
      • Nice I am down in Santa Maria and was getting 12-35 average ping =) : hashd
      • No wonder I get a 5 ms ping! Awesome : Zero|DPX
      • You can't pay your way into the clan Your in ! : rosewood
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    i might be up. though, i'm not a point in my life where i can really get back into hardcore competitive p... : mindmann
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      OH, I'm not up for hard core competitive play either. I'd like to practice 2 or 3 times a week tops. : hirez
      • I'd def be interested in that : lowpoly
  • I would definitely be interested in that. I'm back in the states in a few weeks and I'll likely be lookin... : ColoradoCNC
  • oh im down for that west coast! : Str8Dog
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    Then we can have west coast shackers vs east coast shackers! Fight! If you live in the middle... sorry. : Edges
    • we play at 6PM est, if your not there you forfeit! : Chupa808
  • I'd be down for west coast. Hell, I'd even be down for Central, as long as the servers aren't shit. I t... : dopeman
• I'd be in if it weren't for my schedule. Class starts at 3pm, ends 12am CST, so I'd only be available too... : glio1337
• After 9pm CST Sunday thru Thursdays. : Phil
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  HALLO, CAN I HAD PLZ TO BE IN GROUP? east cost. would love to be around more intelligent players and not ... : Chupa808
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    you played windowd you are not worthy... : Str8Dog
    • my compy cant handle full.... yet : Chupa808
• I used to be in the <CC> clan for QWTF... I miss those days. :( : guido anchovy
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  id do it as long as it was only a couple nights a week and I didnt have to farm for fucking pots... : Str8Dog
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    [Str8Dog] This just in, MC raids to be limited to 20 minutes total to accomidate the most people possibl... : Chupa808
    • So glad I quit... : Str8Dog
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  Yes, very interested :) : feek
  • Ideally it'd be with a somewhat serious group. Nothing too crazy, but not just a list of friends. You kno... : feek
• As long as it's not a play-every-night-for-5-hours-or-you're-banned thing, I'm up for it. :) I would nee... : DHAvatar
• I was one of the original members of an old TF clan called Marauder. I would love to play in some kind of... : taronish
• I'm down if it's casual. Old people need time to recover and shit. : malevolence
• Sign me up. Long-time QWTF player (in Marauder, Children of Chaos, a couple others at various times) b... : Fayk
• I'd be interested, Rosie! :D : Maddog_Delphi97
• I'd probably be down. I'm a darn good demoman / control point defender. : NastyJack
• i think i'd be up for this. definitely keep me posted if you go through with it. : Korban
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  Sure as long as it's more casual and not "BE HERE ON THIS TIME TO DO X FOR Y HOURS OR YOU'RE GONE" : DrFlammable
  • Same here. : razlebol
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  I'm totally into this. I think thekidd or edgewise suggested OGC as a clan name, but maybe O8GC is bette... : midgetherder
  • haha O8GC would be funny. : Phil
• i would totally be into this. sign me up! : m0rfus
• I'm down with this. I play a mean soldier/sniper/demo. : mittense
• I'm so down. Its been so long and I really miss my TFC clan :( : great-white
• I'd be up for it. : TrptJim

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  function myfunction(arg) { //do something with arg myfunction(arg) } : filthysock
  • except you forgot the extremely critical base case : derelict515
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  The best way to start learning recursion is with simple math formulas like factorials. factorial(int n : digital_d
  • I think it's easiest to start from proof by induction. Proof by induction works like this in case you... : jcupitt
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  You need something like String myFunc(int level) { if (level > 1) { return "*" + myFunc(level : Tissen
  • That's only going to create a single line of stars (e.g. "*****"), not a triangle. : Ride-My-Rocket
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  What. Don't listen to their jive Flammable. The best way is to think of recursion in terms of branching : dopeman
  • Also, however you want to structure your branching is cool. This is just one way, and it might not neces... : dopeman
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    what. dopemans your code is whack yo. Tissen is right. : deject
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      Hah. That's what I get for waking up and trying to write Java :( : dopeman
      • hmmm, actually I think you're right, it's just really hard to read. : deject
• pick beeper : riptyde
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  To understand recursion, one must first understand recursion : dael
  • lol : boring gegtik
  • lol, im fucking cracking up here. : tomatoactivator
  • haha : askedrelic
  • that's awesome. : hirez
  • /stack overflows : filtersweep
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    lolol what are we laughing at? : pancake humper
    • We're laughing at what we were laughing at. : Edges
    • a pancake humping a pancake humper : riptyde
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    This is when I wish I had bookmarked that comment where someone managed to post a link the that very comm... : SilverSnake
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      That bastard goes by the name of thekidd, I believe. : ieGod
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        Truth: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=6187399 : ieGod
        • that MuaaSan post is just bizarre. I can't believe I clicked on each one just to see what was at the end... : deject
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  Honestly, this problem is shit, because there is no reason to implement this problem recursively. Someone : taronish
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    Code is 'correct', but helper2 should be (needs to call itself instead of other implementation): : taronish
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      couldn't you overload the constructor so you wouldn't need to keep feeding r back in though? : deject
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        I don't think I understand your question - I structured my example as I did basically to demonstrate "wha... : taronish
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          never mind, it was a bit of a dumb question I think. : deject
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            I guess my problem is why you need multiple methods to accomplish what Flammable is trying to do. I wo... : deject
            • It is sufficient. But you might not want t o burden people with that interface. It is an issue of encapsu... : taronish
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  # RUBY PROGRAM, JAVA STYLE def print_line_of_stars stars_in_line puts "*" * stars_in_line end d : sumo-hacker
  • The problem with this solution to the problem is that ruby lets you do: "*" *stars_in_line In o... : taronish
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  string lol(int k) { if(k<=1) { print * return "*" } else { string lollerstring = "*" + lol(k-1) ... : TreMetal
  • I suppose that should be print lollerstring + endline : TreMetal
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  Hey somebody should do this in lisp to show how awesome it is in recursion. : dopeman
  • I would do it but I've worked so much with this bastardized language called skill that my awesome lisp ab... : dopeman
  • This is basically the same implementation I provided in Java, but in scheme (a lisp variant) instead: : taronish
• A PHP example for shits 'n' giggles function someRecursiveFunction( $char, $num ) { static $limi : action roommate
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  You could do it recursively in a couple basic ways: WAY 1 function(int k) { print line of k stars;... : Zero|DPX
  • Way 1 is basically equivalent to the iterative code in a language with tail call optimization, depending ... : taronish

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  Triangulation. : Chunks
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    who, not where. : edgewise
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      My attempt to be useless backfired into just making me look stupid :( : Chunks
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        stab him with your skate : Degenerate
        • No way, he can afford a way better lawyer than me. : Chunks
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  call CTU : Degenerate
  • Jack's busy in Iran. : edgewise
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  where's the damn satellite! : dael
  • probably in space. : edgewise
  • Ask to the damn tour-guide. : Audhuml4
• Open a socket. : -efx-
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  TALK HARD : HojuSimpson
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    Pump up the Volume? : kainen1
    • winnar : HojuSimpson
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  try http://whocalled.us/ ? : FrayLo
  • neat, it worked for a call I didn't answer last night and had a bunch of comments about it being some stu... : Zeeliv
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  I dont know if it'll work with a cell phone, but Googling a number sometimes gives you something. : Rauol Duke
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    yeah, nothing comes up. However, there is the "reverse phone detective" who apparently can list the owner... : edgewise
    • This is the only way to do it. You're not even going to tell us why you're looking for the number? : bostrov
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      I've always wondered how they can do that and why it's a fee-based service. Do they have to pay the phon... : Vantage
      • Prolly have moles at each of the major cell phone companies that can just look it up : phobium
• you can enter a number in google now and get the name. dont think it works for cellphones though :-( : Chupa808
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  DON'T TRAZE ME BRO! : Phil
  • lol : FrayLo
  • B+ : biskits
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzkd_m4ivmc&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fdigg%2Ecom%2Fvideos%2Fcomedy%2FCan%5Ft%5FTas... : mavmavv
    • ahaha nice : Phil
    • jesus christ this is funny : eldiablo01
    • beautiful. : AlexXdude
    • lolz : FrayLo
    • hhahahaha : deject
    • hahaha. MC Hammer makes everything better. : Vantage
    • This is what the internet was made for! : Lionhart32935
    • I shouldn't laugh, but here I am. lol : ThomW
    • lol : PapaBoo
    • fuck yes! : das_runt
  • hahahaha : -efx-
• www.phonetrace......bah probably bannable. : Turd Ferguson
• stalking : Ziz
• Google npa nxx lookup. Find what store it was issued at and then social engineer it from there. : shortbuscaptain
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  Trace buster buster! : shyguy74
  • but what if they have trace buster buster BUSTER? : hirez
• To legally trace a call you have to go through your local law agency. : carazy

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• Also... in case any issues arise, I will be reachable. my email is in the IRC channel, and it goes straig... : devnullgt
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  it would be great if someone could record it for us different timezone people : JohnnyDanger
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    does it have to be someone playing or can someone spectating from SteamTV record the demo? : edgewise
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      If you record the demo from SteamTV it will record everyones point of view. : sigpro
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        someone record it!!!!! : edgewise
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          Just tell me what cmd to put in : rosewood
          • should just be record blah : sigpro
          • someone tell this man! : edgewise
          • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15201905#itemanchor_15201905 : helvetica
• I'm going to throw this match up on the tv and watch, I better be entertained ;-) : carazy
• Someone be responsible for recording it. Who wants that responsibility? : thekidd
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  I should be doing commentary. Anyone that has played anything with me on Xbox live knows this : genjuro
  • He was looking for a cohost. : carazy
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    no : lakren
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      Lakren, as community manager, you are correct as always. : CrustaR
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        I will claim my rightful position soon enough. I will shoot one of those valve bastards in the head fo... : lakren
        • Be sure to get DRiller if he's playing. That guy is such a n00b. : CrustaR
  • Too late. Now I get to make shoe jokes about you! : sigpro
  • I was asking for other people to do it with me. : pancake humper
  • I'm going to agree here. Not because I think you would be a good fit, but because I think it would be ab : Ajax
  • OH SNAP HE GOT BLOWED UP : askedrelic
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  Also, for those who don't have or want WinAmp, Media Player Classic natively supports Shoutcast also: jus... : mn3m0n1c
  • Actually, WordPad works better- NotePad++ works best, of course! ;) : mn3m0n1c
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    Direct listen link: http://kock.empx.net:8000/listen.pls plz to be put it media player into : devnullgt
    • doesn't work : zagzig32
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    Does gomplayer support it? : bcyde
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      I didn't know (I actually use WinAm!])- but according to their forum not yet, but soon: http://www.gompla... : mn3m0n1c
      • Gah- accidental tagging! ...use WinAmp(!)... : mn3m0n1c
• Someone needs to record it, turn it into an AVI, and then post it. Then that post needs to be INFd. Then ... : Modica Sol Solis
• I have a streamripper set up, I'll try to record. : helvetica
• i don't think i'm going to get to watch the match live so please someone record! i want to hear and see ... : dahanese
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  What if I don't want to install winamp? : razlebol
  • nevermind.. I got media player classic. wtf 50 cent? : razlebol
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  So, how does SteamTV work? Say I want to watch this battle. What do I do? : sumo-hacker
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    You connect to a server, as a spectator. It's a special server designed for spectating only. : ovrlrd
    • I've been crashed out of the spectate server twice :( : malevolence
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  is there a stream going now? i connected and heard some music for a minute and then it cut out. : captain hampton
  • I am trying to set it up right now. : pancake humper
  • http://kock.empx.net:8000/ Server Status: Server is currently down. : mn3m0n1c
• Can some democratic individual ask the Valve fellows to leave the FF option available? : Vangoghs Ear
• I heared something. : smackpiece
• I might not be able to actually do this now. So many people over at our condo, not sure if they are leavi... : pancake humper
• So is someone recording this? : thekidd
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  haha am I suppose to hear really sped up talking? : carazy
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    alright nm, I can hear him now. : carazy
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      and he's really really quiet now. : carazy
      • ^^ this. : smackpiece
      • volume is much better now. : carazy
• i love you : smackpiece
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  can someone connect and see if you can hear me on KOCK and pancake humper too : rosewood
  • I only hear one person. : carazy
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    can't hear pancake. you're fine : smackpiece
    • trying to get my playback to come through. : pancake humper
  • lol- I'm one of the "8 listeners", btw! volume's much better now, but the teamspeak signal's not getting ... : mn3m0n1c
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    Who's talking right now? Pancake? : helvetica
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      rosewood is the higher voice. I'm not sure if I am coming through right now. We are trying to get it broa... : pancake humper
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        I hear speedy fingers! Oh it's rosewood. Hi rosewood! : helvetica
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          Rosewood! Tell us on the stream (I'm listening) the Teamspeak address. : Phil
          • ts.shackbattles.com : Slowtreme
• doh: Windows Media Player cannot play the file because the server is not responding. If you entered a URL... : kydaimon
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  I hear someone. One person. : laurgasms
  • and yes, you sound like a retard. : laurgasms
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  hmm, how about a voice chat session...teamspeak perhaps? : sergeon
  • im sitting right behind hawkeye. i'd love to talk to people like out loud instead of just yelling at him ... : laurgasms
  • *sniff* can't login to ts.shackbattles.com :( : sergeon
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  since steam community is having issues is there anywhere we can do a chatroom for this thing? or should ... : carazy
  • there is the IRC /server irc.habber.net #radio : Slowtreme
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  IRC Channel Please join the IRC channel while listening! irc.habber.net #radio : pancake humper
  • lol im having enough problems trying to get the radio working with the company firewall, let alone irc : kydaimon
• I'm planning on recording the commentary if nothing goes wrong. : malevolence
• sorry dude, no idea. : AbortedFetusChristi
• I can hear ya Humpie. : Solstice
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  Now YOU're too quiet, rosewood. humper's fine. : Damodred
  • LOUDER, rosewood!!!!! : Damodred
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  anyone else hearing a really bad hum? : TroZ
  • Yeah, there's a buzz in the background. : helvetica
  • I do. : ant_hillbilly
  • Yes, 'cuz the gain's too low :P Louder, dammit! : Damodred
  • Yep. Like there's a fan on, or a nuclear power plant in the background. : dmason
  • reminds me of my granpappys ham radio! : kingfish
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  Is anyone going to correct the commentator on the pronunciation of the word "granary"? 'Cos I'm THIS clos... : Silent Sorrow
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    Why don't you send him a strongly-worded shackmessage? I'm sure it'll make you feel better. : Ajax
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      Don't worry, bro, pancake_humper took care of it just now. Hahahaha! : Silent Sorrow
      • ...and all is right with the latest chatty once again. : Ajax
  • lol fixed. : ant_hillbilly
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    how his he pronouncing it? : GloriousCow
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      He had the stress on the second syllable instead of the first. Plus a short A instead of a long A on the ... : Silent Sorrow
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        Like "canary"? : Bold
        • Yep, pretty much! :D : mn3m0n1c
    • He was saying gruh-NAR-ree. : Ajax
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  haha thought I heard the software crapping out for a moment there : Unleashed
  • I heard that. That was hilarious. : Ajax
• "A lot of egos are being crushed tonight" LOL : chuck577
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  wow, annihilated : Foxhawk
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    So who won? : yoonix
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      there was never any game. nothing to see here. connection problems. never happened. ever. : Foxhawk
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        they said shacknews was tougher to fight than SA! : laurgasms
        • we were, marginally : Foxhawk
• * M O R A L V I C T O R Y ' D * : Ajax
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  Well the Shack lost the first round. BUT!! ErikJ: That really was a lot tougher than the SA match ... : Solstice
  • Yay! Moral victoly! : helvetica
  • yeah! take that, other website! : mikecyb
  • Next match. Shack Vs Goons! : chuck577

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• Good luck, Shackers. Kick ass. Make them not want to release TF3 for another ten years. : dmason
• why are you on there thekidd, you suck : buzzbat
• if Viscid wins this is he unbanned? : RikiTiki2
• The creatures will destroy the creators. Good luck to the Shack team. : Nitrium
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  Good luck, and don't embarrass the Valve team too badly! Also I've never seen the name "mooglebean" be... : helvetica
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    Also also, if anyone wants to record a demo and doesn't know how, it's record <demoname> in the console. : helvetica
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      Why aren't you playing? I thought you were some kind of super FPS chick. : knitemare
      • I'm still just a noob at TF2! : helvetica
• I assume this can be recorded and watched afterwards by us people who can't attend or watch it happen in ... : -efx-
• use teh hax! and clever stuff i'm such a nub : johnsto
• Good luck girls, do us proud. Also, is there a way to turn off the interface while watching demos? I'... : dael
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  Which Valve employees are playing? : CrustaR
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    a bunch of ringers. : thekidd
    • whoa.. at first glance I didn't read that as ringers... : voodooraze
• Good luck Doug_Support, Erik Johnson, garymct, locash and Gabe Newell! Not that you need it. haha... : ThomW
• Godspeed you heathens, sock it to them! : scottythejock
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  how do you use SourceTV? : SonicSquirrel
  • Just connect to the server in that tab. there are only 6 or 7 listed. One says Valve : Slowtreme
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    You just connect to it through the server browser. You have to have Steam and TF2 in order to watch the ... : mrwolf710
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      Are you able to control the camera in the same way as when spectating a regular match? : Silent Sorrow
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        last time i logged in, i was able to move the camera around like you can when you are dead. you are limit... : captain hampton
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          When you are connected via SteamTV you are not locked to one team. : Slowtreme
          • ok, sorry. i must have been drunk. or retarded. : captain hampton
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          Cool. But you definitely can't switch which team you're spectating? That's too bad. : Silent Sorrow
          • You can switch to ANY player if you are on the Spectator team. You can't look at Red team if you are Blu,... : Slowtreme
• MANY LUCKS ARE WISHED UPON YOU They can be beaten, had some good games playing vs Valve guys last nigh... : Slowtreme
• d0gbert on team one? well, there's your problem right there, m i rite? LOLULELALYLIL!!1` : Boo Pipes
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  Try not to light your computers on fire during this legalized rape. : Rauol Duke
  • night of 1000 lols : boring gegtik
• People playing: please also record demos so we can watch your own personal hell. : rock elf
• September 30th NEVER FORGET! Good luck ;) : [7]kami
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  I'm ready to win! but not particularly expecting it... You did a good job picking people too, from the : hawkeye
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    sweet lew, artillery marker, and lyme would have been great additions if they could have made it. : thekidd
    • Thanks but try to win so they will call for a rematch. Spray the walls red with Valve blood! : ArtilleryMarker
• Good luck, represent us well! : skizl
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  I thought any demo recorded has the entire match, not just the perspective of the recorder. : suqur
  • Demos recorded on the server, or from SourceTV contain all views. Player recorded demos only see player d... : Slowtreme
• Holy shit, I thought this was originally for sunday night? : d0gbert
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  Remember, valve has 10 years of practice. its like rookies vs all-star veterans. : chilln
  • underdogs ftw. : thekidd
• good luck fellas! : anthonybean
• good luck everyone, don't make us look like fps noobs. Remember our roots and we will prevail. : grabbie
• You gonna get raped :( : Daggoth
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  I wish cigam/hardflip/flammable were on the first team.. I don't know about they're others, but they're p... : lakren
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    My "shack all stars" after 23 hours on strictly shack servers are Sweet Lew as a spy, FreshyK as a medic,... : bcyde
    • Yeah, I'll second that sweet lew guy. I've never been killed more times by a spy than by that guy. Fucker... : Silent Sorrow
• Good luck, you're gonna need it. : Magus
• Good luck guys. Kick ass and take video. : funnynamehere
• Remember shackers, heroism is pointless, teamwork is the key. : abrasion
• make me proud, shack! : JohnnyDanger
• I'd like to watch this, but I will have Halo 3 waiting for me to play. :( Decisions... : FormerHPB
• good luck guys. I wish I played this more with the shack, I might have been able to help out :) : Lawgiver
• And gentlemen in England now-a-bed Shall think themselves accurs'd they were not here, And hold their m... : cause&effect
• Pour a 40 out on a Pyro and light him up for me. : RomSteady
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  Good luck, remember to bring lube, you're gonna need it. : retardhumper
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    There are times when this "post+username" ban thing really is unfair, you know that, right? : RomSteady
    • well, tears and blood only work so so, sometimes you need real lube : retardhumper
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  If you lose, be sure to call them fags! : logik?
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    We don't have to lose for this to happen. : Omaha
    • And call lakren a fag just because. : Fred Garvin
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  I just wanted to wish you both good luck, we're all counting on you. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I just wanted to wish you both good luck, we're all counting on you. : Draco
    • I just wanted to wish you both good luck, we're all counting on you. : d0gbert
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  ill have my popcorn and beer ready and cheering you guys on!! GOOD LUCK!! just do better than SA... : m0rfus
  • did anyone ever find the screenshots from that. that forum had like 90 pages of replies, I didn't click t... : Slowtreme
• I won't be in channel until 7:30PM or a little later but I will be home for 8PM for the match. : moogle
• "Come back with your teleports, or on them." : -efx-
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  Since Mrs. Phil got a root canal today, I'm sure she'll be even more cunty than normal. Hopefully she'll... : Phil
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    I like you Phil, but I want to win! Valve has 2 teams ready to play us, from what I've heard. 2 sepera... : askedrelic
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      Hey bitch, I fucking rock at TF2. You stick to banging fat chicks and let me do the healing! : Phil
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        Wanna be my medic tonight? I'm probably gonna be playing heavy and that takes two to tango if you get my ... : askedrelic
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          If the planets are in alignment and God is not out for his nightly [lol] at my expense, HELL YES. The ti... : Phil
          • lol phil. <3 : askedrelic
        • I'll be your wingman anytime! : carazy
      • I've been having fun with the Medic also. You and I were healing like mad the other night. \m/ : FormerHPB
  • Make sure Mrs. Phil has taken her vicoden. Then tell her to piss off. If she brings it up later tell he... : knitemare
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    there are two teams of shackers facing off against two teams from valve. so you're coming rit? you're... : thekidd
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      I'm sure we can get some good subs. A lot of good shack players have been "discovered" since this roster ... : Slowtreme
      • I missed the thread where people signed up, or I would have. I think I've been doing alright on the shack... : Zeeliv
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  Holy shit! Phil plays games? Good luck everyone! : knitemare
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    i can only imagine what his custom sprays look like o_O : cause&effect
    • Probably some really hot feet. : knitemare
• I'll be working so I can't watch, long hours ftl. Oh well, give 'em hell boys! : boarder2
• Are we doing play by play over the Shack radio? I tried talking to darklox but he was afk when I tried ge... : pancake humper
• Good luck guys. This is going to be awesome. : Waffles!
• I don't have TF2 but would still like to watch. any chance there will be an .avi available of the carnage... : Supine
• Good luck guys. I know it'll be a shutout. Now which team will be on that shutout side is a different sto... : Link.
• good luck you polesmokers! you're gonna neeeeeeeeed it! : hirez
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  I'm going to regret this but who wants my spot? I would prefer to give it to someone that is a great medi... : bozer
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    I've got a list of medics we can run down to replace you. which is too bad :( : thekidd
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      Yeah I am a sad panda. Maybe there will be another chance someday. Pick someone great! : bozer
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        Me me me me me me me me me me me! : omnova
        • Omnova is good. He can have my spot on Team 2 if I can't make it. : Phil
    • Saint Lucius (i think that's his name) is really good medic. : kainen1
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    I can play a fairly badass medic! : pancake humper
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      anyone but this guy : bozer
      • done. : thekidd
      • :( : pancake humper
• <mutters bitter comment> good luck. : ]pm[chem
• I want some screenshots of DrFlammable calling gaben a fag. : spectr3
• I wish I could have been free to play. Good luck guys! : c0bra
• Oh wtf, the time got changed? I thought it was going to be like 6 EST? : c0bra
• God speed you poor bastards. May you do the crushing that will likely be inflicted upon you. : DrZettl
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  So who did you have to blow or sleep with to make team 1 or team 2? : coyoterys
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    me. and you were no where near good enough in bed to even be watching the game. : thekidd
    • Well, I doubt this will be the case.... but if you're in need of people I'm a bitch with an engy / medic ... : coyoterys
  • hmm got a webcam?? : hardfl1p
• I wish I could play as well but it's on an American server and you wouldn't want someone with 300+ ping o... : Izanaki
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  No offense to anyone on this list (incoming offensive statement) but are these guys good? :D : boomstickah
  • :D : d0gbert
  • I've sniped every single one of them many times, I think. and have been blow up, stabbed, burned, shot an : c0bra
  • heh, as big of a gay buttsexer DrFlammable is, he's good as a scout. : deject
  • I would vouch for roughly 1/2 of the players from the CS:S community. Like deject said, Flammable may be... : dopeman
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    a good number of them are really good. some aren't as good. whatever, it'll be fun.. if we wanted to p... : lakren
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      i thought that was the whole point :( : Unleashed
      • well, if you look at the stats of the players on the teams, you can see who's the better of the players p... : lakren
      • logistically we just couldn't get every good player. conflicting schedules and all that. : thekidd
      • I wish it would of been more fair picking these teams. There was no signups, no tryouts, nothing it just... : carazy
  • I'm just OK. : freshyk
• good luck! you guys are fucked : dewdman
• Good luck guys. Shame it's so late.... would have been fun to watch. : ZeroSignal
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  If I record a demo while I play, that will have no effect on the preformance of my computer, will it? If ... : DrFlammable
  • Recording a demo never impacted performance for me. It just saves game data, which it has to process any... : omnova
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  Good afternoon. In less than eight hours, Shackers from around the world will join each other. And we wil... : hardfl1p
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    I tried reading this in Bill Pullman's voice but it didn't really work. : c0bra
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      Try Maddog. : hardfl1p
      • Ah, that's better. : c0bra
  • I give this an A : RobFlinn
• teabagging is of the essence of course. : barichnikov
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  If you guys don't win, you should be banned. : Rice-Rocketeer
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    yeah, ban viscid again, that will teach him : GloriousCow
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      again? He's still banned poor Dancer... : Solstice
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        thats what i'm saying, if he loses, he's doublebanned : GloriousCow
        • Wait... we have a perma'd Shacker on the Shack team?? : romulan
• Not sure why but this is the first thing that poped into my head when I saw this thread this morning 0_o ... : hashd
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  have you guys played together at all? : edgewise
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    yes, several times. which is good considering the limited timespan. : thekidd
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      that's reassuring. From some of the replies it seemed like a good number of the people had no idea they w... : edgewise
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        What's the line on this game? Who's the bookie? : romulan
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          what maps are being played? I'll guess the over/under for each map. 2fort Shackteam caps: 1/2 ... : edgewise
          • granary, gravelpit, and dustbowl. : thekidd
• /record shackgonnagetraped : r3dn3ck
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  Remember what is best in life.. "To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the l... : marku5
  • rape their land and pillage their women! : Clay
  • Shoft lavatory paper. : Damodred
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  Good luck guys! I can't wait to watch. : FushigiDenki
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    Also, please be heavy on the trash talk. : FushigiDenki
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      uh don't worry, i''m on the team. : lakren
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        i sometimes don't even play rounds, i just sit in spawn yelling insults. : lakren
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          it's true. I usually sit in there and heal him. : thekidd
          • worth it : FushigiDenki
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  Spartanews.com - "Sending our finest warriorsregulars to do battle against an empirof nerds]s." This. ... : royalally
  • /wrists. : royalally
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  You can't hear voice in SourceTV can you? : K1Bond007
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    No. : sigpro
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      Thank God.... : K1Bond007
      • seriously. :) : burning eye
• Every one of you deserves a medal. : VinnieTheSquid
• good luck guys! : dromo5
• Tonight shall live in infamy. : freshyk
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  are you using ventrilo? If so someone needs to record the voicechat for later humorous interpretation. : Fyunch Click
  • Nope, in game voip. : freshyk
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  KOCK Radio Broadcasting Ok, I got the go ahead from darklox to broadcast tonights games. I am going to... : pancake humper
  • and make sure that someone streams it to a .wav or .mp3 file. : thekidd
  • I'd be interested in listening. : helvetica
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    Please grab an mp3 of this. : Phil
    • I want to hear what bad things they say about me. :( : freshyk
    • second'd : logik?
  • I can't listen live, but if you get an MP3 I will definitely listen. I think it'll be really amusing. : knitemare
  • Can I listen via itunes or WMP10? I used to have realplayer just for listening to Q3/RTCW matches, but it... : Slowtreme
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    Man, I hope somebody edits together a sweet video of this match. This could be very cool. : suqur
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      I'm planning on trying to, hence why I asked for demos, and a recording of pancake humper's broadcast. : thekidd
      • You must! \m/ : suqur
  • I'd tune into this! : AlexXdude
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    hmm, what does it take to do this? : sigpro
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      A microphone and winamp. It's going to be very casual tonight. I am doing it because A) I wasn't invited ... : pancake humper
      • ok i will setup winamp via rdp. check your shack message. Hopefully I should be home from work maybe 20 m... : sigpro
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    I'd gladly do a play by play or color commentator : rosewood
    • I fully support rosewood as a color commentator! I'd be happy to do play-by-play but I think I'm not goi... : Zero|DPX
    • check your SM's : pancake humper
  • Definitely looking forward to tuning in! : cyclonebee
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15205800#itemanchor_15205800 Everyone who plans on listening in, ... : pancake humper
    • nevermind I see it's down : Slowtreme
  • I'm trying to figure out of I have software to listen to this. is the stream up? : Slowtreme
  • Ah man, i'd like to do this! But i dont get home till 6pm PST :( Damn it all. : great-white
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  Good luck, and I hope you guys all have mics so you can use super team work. Remember, they will use psyc... : ovrlrd
  • Many of us have been playing on the valve server vs them. I hope some of the team players have done to sa... : Slowtreme
• Good luck guys, looking forward to the demo/video :D : Noobler
• Good luck guys ! Steamroll them or die trying ! : Lightbulb
• If any of you playing as a demoman drop out, I'd be willing to fill in. : Mikuya
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  Yes these are lame but you like to take them anyway Which Heroes Character Are you? http://liquidge... : mista mista
  • ^^^ Nuke Plz : mista mista
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  still no ip for the source TV? : razlebol
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    if you had witnessed the team scrimmage, you wouldnt want to watch anyway ;) christ its going to be a dis... : bradsh
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      to be fair, there was no team scrimmage :P like nobody showed up, I was just screwing around, etc. this w... : lakren
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        what do you want to bet a few people dont show up for the real deal : bradsh
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          i'd bet anything you're right.. two teams, though, fixes that problem! : lakren
          • We'll probably just snag a couple guys from the chat room. : K1Bond007
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    72.165.61.167:27020 is where it will be : Slowtreme
    • Thanks : razlebol
    • looks like it's up : deject
• Good luck!! Wish I could watch... will be looking forward to the demos/videos! : xoque
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  Pre-order question If I pre-order, do I still get in on the TF2 beta? or was that for people who pre-o... : valael
  • It was only for people who pre-ordered the pre-order. : NastyJack
  • You can still get in the beta if you buy through Steam now or if you preorder from Gamestop. : freshyk
• Good luck playing grab ass with valve. : great-white
• Dont you only need 1 demo? If its like CS:S you see everyone if you want. : oldschoolbob-o
• Where do we go to place our bets? :P : dkrulz
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  is it me or is steam community completely down, meaning the chat rooms are broken too? : bradsh
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    something is screwy right now : swoopx
    • valve is chickening out!!!! : edgewise
    • yep, i think its borked: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15206791#itemanchor_15206791 I've been k... : Crimson
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    Valve is trying to sabotage us :( : hawkeye
    • they fear the shack! : soapland
  • I AM CALLING SHENANIGANS RIGHT NOW! : Phil
  • they were trying to get some updates in for the match so everything will work right. I'm assuming the ... : thekidd
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    This is clearly sabotage. : omnova
    • Oh my God, it's a mirage, I'm tellin' y'all It's SABOTAGE!!!♫♫♫ : K1Bond007
• Good luck homies! : soapland
• Yes, your shoutcast IS working. : Freon
• good hunting! : cowbs
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  this sucks, hl2.exe crashes within seconds anytime I join :( : AbortedFetusChristi
  • mine too! :( : Draugluin
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  uh, how were these teams chosen? randomly or by association? : reveiation
  • by how much they love the cock. : pyide
  • favoritism and association, and I have no problem with that. deal : Draugluin
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    size of the penis. smallest ones were chosen first among all others. : thekidd
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      i dispute this fact. : laurgasms
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        I don't, AskedRelic is second string : felicia
        • ^^^she knows what Im about : askedrelic
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  wtf? i only get crashes when i connect to the sourceTV server. But good hunting anyways! : naabster
  • 3 negatives and no positives so far. ruh roh : Draugluin
  • It crashes for me too. : razlebol
  • Crashing for me too and a lot of "unknown" people. Geez. I guess Valve is afraid of the mighty Shack t... : Nitrium
  • Wow, guess the code for it is still buggy. I keep getting copy entity errors and all sorts of stuff. : ovrlrd
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    It's 72.165.61.167:27020, right? I can't connect from the console. : helvetica
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      It's crashing, not just for people connecting, but the SourceTV server itself it seems. : ovrlrd
      • Oh man, that's a bummer. I did finally get in, to get booted out. : helvetica
  • I can stay in for about 10 seconds, then it drops me. : ArbyBean
• I'm sorry we can't date anymore, you picked the team from favorites and youre an asshole you dick i cant ... : felicia
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  What is the irc server? haver.net? halver.net ? wtf you gotta spell that shit dood111 : Freon
  • habber.net : lakren
  • it's spelled out in the post. the Steam Shacknews Channel. : thekidd
  • IRC channel}R: irc.habber.net #radio : AlexXdude
• Back to working, players get into the chatroom! : thekidd
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  bah I keep crashing out with shit like this: Host_Error: CL_CopyExistingEntity: missing client entity ... : Modulus
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    same here : nepharious
    • Yup, I keep crashing out the game. Going into a real TF2 game never crashes for me... : Link.
  • same here, and always a different number for entity. I even restarted steam to make sure I wasn't missing... : AbortedFetusChristi
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  ... and in this corner, weighing in at an IQ too low to be measured, the one... the only... Sha... what? : thekidd
  • We keep getting crashes! :( : Majuju
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  LOL They're killing the shack right now, this is hilarious. : felicia
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    Ugh, I hope someone's recording this! I can't spectate RAWR! : Damodred
    • I honestly don't think anyone can, nobody has replied with it being successful. If someone gets it workin... : ovrlrd
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    Are you watching in spec, or thekidd's screen? Hopefully the former, I'd like to see too! : helvetica
    • kidd's screen. :( : felicia
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  What the hell? The Valve server isn't even showing up any more for me. It was there, I joined, but it kic... : Silent Sorrow
  • Valve stacking the odds :P : Damodred
  • got the same problem :( : kingfish
  • The SourceTV server keeps crashing, it'll come back up. : helvetica
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  SourceTV was disconnected. : freshyk
  • as i don't try connecting because it won't work : freshyk
  • That's fantastic. : Silent Sorrow
  • i think it's officially dead : anthonybean
• OLOL rosewood you're a cheeseball! : Ajax
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  i cant even get into a regular game right now : dantastic
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    steam just disconnected me and is trying to upgrade, but failing for some reason :( : askedrelic
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      hey and the shack isn't working well either :( : askedrelic
      • the shack is fine, i think the problem is elsewhere : kydaimon
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  So far we're being demolished. : freshyk
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    Well, yeah, but I'm hoping we at least put up a tougher fight than the Goons. : Rotten Deadite
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      We're not. : Ajax
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        Gotta have faith man... ;) : DM7
        • I have faith that the Shack is going to get rolled for their lunch money. : Ajax
• kick some ass guys : Grumbeld
• Oh god someone please record this : genjuro
• pancake humper is giving great commentary : rosewood
• I wouldn't recommend connecting to source tv : rosewood
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  SourceTV is borked, everyone is frozen in place. Nice commentary from pancake humper though. : helvetica
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    They disconnected the SourceTV because it's borked apparently. : AlexXdude
    • /sadpanda : Unleashed
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  This is great commentary. : smoove
  • He just said gren-ary. Like, rhyming with canary. : BlackCat9
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  lol that was awesome, thekidd was very MOVE GUYS GO okay PUSH NOW okay good job guys OKAY SCOUTS NOW and ... : felicia
  • dude, voice logs : kydaimon
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    is it over already? :( : deject
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      Team 1 is out, team 2 is in, and I cannot do any over-the-shoulder reporting, like I was doing in IRC. :( : felicia
      • me neither :( we tried. : laurgasms
• Haha, Christ, playing valve was like playing locusts on speed. But it was fun, and we learned a few inter... : Visceral Monkey
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  they're obviously good, but having to play on their server where every one of them has a ping of 5, and e... : lakren
  • I got decimated by their sniper (Driller) but I got him a couple times. The ping was only a small percen... : hawkeye
• that was insane. : thekidd
• Well, I gave Erik a shout. I hope he will go for an even-grounds rematch once they get SrcTV working so w... : Draco

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  no : lakren
  • IAWTP EOT! (ahem, but, yes, I wouldn't even know where to start laughing at this) : Damodred
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  If anything I'd argue that by removing so much, they've made the game smarter. There is waaaay less spam... : EvilDolemite
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    Giving the soldier a single standard grenade and disabling it by default would not lead to TFC spam. : ]pm[chem
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      Soldiers have like 40 rockets. I don't feel they're underpowered. I consistently get tons of kills as s... : EvilDolemite
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        It's not about fixing game balance, it's about variety. Doesn't have to the the soldier. : ]pm[chem
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          I just don't agree that just because a game is newer, it has to be more complex or have more options than... : EvilDolemite
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            I'd disagree with that but I think that this is the issue facing PC gamers and console gamers in the mode... : wytefang
            • I didn't want to start with the console vs. PC aspect to this, but I do agree with you. : ]pm[chem
            • you ignored the fact that adding complexity exponentially increases the difficulty of balancing a game. A... : derelict515
• The best way to argue something is to call the opposing side "kiddies" (it makes you sound like an adult) : boring gegtik
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  Oh shiiiiit.... dude you better put on your flame resistant suit. There only be TF2 fanboys here. : Modulus
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    I play the game often (and get nice scores on Shack servers) and enjoy it, but after a week I am underwhe... : ]pm[chem
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      I am too. It's just a slight derivation of TF with some pretty graphics. I had great fun for the first f... : Modulus
      • LOL, Shackhyp'd. Now on to tiring of Halo3 in three weeks. : Silent Sorrow
• I disagree (or don't care) about everything except needing more CTF maps. I don't have any idea why there... : CapnChaos
• I'm pretty sure I was on a FF server before.. I could have been smoking crack though... : snuff
• not on your side here :( sorry : Slowtreme
• I agree about those rockets. As a Medic, I can just dance around the ones that are coming at us horizona... : Phil
• strangely enough - its FUN! : hirez
• Anything that makes Team Fortress 2 A LOT different than the abortion that is called Team Fortress Classi : pancake humper
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  Even If I don't remember the clan tag correctly, I'm pretty sure I respect this opinion simply because of... : p4ck3tloss
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    thank you p4ck3t. you remember correctly. ;) : ]pm[chem
    • I respect your opinion, I just think you're crazy. : Mustang|
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  grens are nice... i think that a couple of classes should get one or two grens. just the normal frag ones... : mr.thing
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    I dont like the idea of playing with grens in the one style, if you do go play fortress forever. its all : pancake humper
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      there's commentary? where? : ttyRazor
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        Start up Team Fortress 2 and click on "Developer Commentary" it takes some time to load though :) It's pr... : pancake humper
        • Yeah, the commentary is quite insightful. : feek
      • You can access the commentary through the main menu of the game. It's listed there as "Developer Commenta... : Syixxs
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  Friendly Fire confuse and upset some wankers, even though maybe 5% of all servers run it? We didn't both : Nation
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    popular in terms of vocalness of its adherents, not in terms of their numbers. the option is already in ... : ]pm[chem
    • Possibly It was an oversight? The game is still in beta and this is the time to fix the things you mi... : Slowtreme
  • wait until the esreality.com thread pops up. you'll understand his point then. : p4ck3tloss
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  I find it rather odd that the soldier has a couple hand grenades on his chest, but he can't use them. ... : deject
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    He also bangs two grenades together in his "Intro to.." video. : DrZettl
    • The Demoman used his cluster grenade in the first two videos Valve released, yet it's not in the game. I ... : BlackCat9
  • you have to beat the game, then you unlock them : lowpoly
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  I'm fine with no grenades, but some tweaks need to be made. As I've said numerous times, pyro needs mo... : shred.
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    Pyro needs a range boost. Scout needs a scattergun nerf. : DrZettl
    • pyro's are really deadly. The amount of total damage they do to a group of enemies can be insanely high. ... : gyokuro
• I don't even know why FF was a debate. I've only ever played team games with it on. Otherwise we can shoo... : avatar_58
• I think it's a great game. It's not going to make everyone happy, especially people who have player any p... : Visceral Monkey
• then stop playing, sheesh : manero
• FF sucks my balls. It makes Spies that much more unkillable. : oldschoolbob-o
• Sudden Death is Stupid? Remove it please please please : carazy
• Wow, where did all you people come from. : devi| dog
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  I consider myself lucky that I never played the original TF. Seems like all the bitching is about how it... : dante2010
  • TF2 is SO much better. : Vangoghs Ear
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  Anyone notice that some of the CP maps are also setup as CTF maps? Especially Well. It's got an intellige... : feek
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    yeah, that's because Well was a CTF map in prior TF style games. They changed it. : ]pm[chem
    • Oh. maybe they'll finish a ctf edition? :/ : feek
  • It's a pain in the ass to get to too. : DrZettl
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    That's why the map names are as they are. They'll release a CTF_Well at some point. : Sze Ior
    • at least, someone will.. : deject
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  I don't agree with this. I think they have done nothing but refine and solidify the concept behind the se... : Syixxs
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    How is a new class, and implementing basic grenades for certain classes (but disabling by default) leavin... : ]pm[chem
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      The last comment wasn't directed at you, specifically. That was more of a blanket statement to cover some... : Syixxs
      • What new class? : Slowtreme
• I agree with some of your points, the rockets are too damned slow and the flame does need to go further. ... : FushigiDenki
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  I think the game you're looking for is Fortress Forever. : ieGod
  • Sorry, wrong. From my post history: "Man I love this game though, they fixed all the annoying crap in TF... : ]pm[chem
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  Soldier's aren't snipers. You are supposed to be close to your opponent, not sit up on the top of 2fort ... : mrwolf710
  • ^^^ good post. : edgewise
• The only thing I really really miss is the demoman's detpacks. Those were so cool. : SenorSpine
• I pretty much disagree with you on everything except maybe adding demopacks for demoman and maybe a new c... : Sgt_Boomstick
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  Surely you don't actually believe that's how those decisions were made. : Chris Remo
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    Of course not. Yet, those decisions still feel like overreactions. : ]pm[chem
    • Did you go through the commentary yet? They give some reasons on this stuff. : project13
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  Where is the gameplay? have you.... played it? and i mean played it, not checked all the character... : cpt_gloval
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    I have every TF2 achievement except "played with 7 friends." You? : ]pm[chem
    • ha! i have "played with 7 friends." : cpt_gloval
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      ugh, you're one of those annoying i'm so hardcore better than you clan guys.. jesus christ, as if having ... : lakren
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        uh, he challenged me. I registered this nick in 2002. in-game TF2, I don't use the clan tag. : ]pm[chem
        • I don't think it was a challenge.. : razlebol
        • my intent was to determine if you've tried to enjoy it or if you are just looking for differences to comp... : cpt_gloval
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          I probably overdid it there, but still, I don't see what you're really complaining about.. it's obviously... : lakren
          • The pace of the game actually feels faster the more experienced the players get. You really have to think... : vynn
• it sucks when you like a game and everyone wants to change it. same shit with CS : bozer
• btw, apologies if I offended anyone, I just kind of got really mad when I read Friendly Fire was being re... : ]pm[chem
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  the beauty is the rocks-paper-scissors of how the classes balance each other out. every class has shortco... : epit
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    exactly. every class has a strength but the strength can also be countered by another class (scout's spe... : mikecyb
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      waitaminute, I thought we all hated Spys? :D : vynn
      • I love the Spy :( : Majuju
• I love this game more than TFC. I think it's perfect and it is one of the best experience I ever had on a... : razlebol
• My only complaints: soldier should be a bit faster. Pyro should have a bit more range. Turrets should tak... : NastyJack
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  YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT A PRODUCT YOU BOUGHT JUST STOP PLAYING NOW HOW DARE YOU : bradsh
  • obviously. : ]pm[chem
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    I really didn't want join this, but most of the things he listed were well-known months ago, and were wid : mn3m0n1c
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      YEAH YOU HAD FAIR WARNING HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE SOMETHING AFTER HAVING EXPERIENCED IT : bradsh
      • I know right. if you post this before the game comes out, people just say "OMG you haven't even played i... : ]pm[chem
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        Yeah uh hey did you know games are luxury products? Yeah. I mean sure he can complain about it and say : deject
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          just like you dont have to post this. the point is that these kinds of posts are completely worthless. bi : bradsh
          • well, I'm not making a DUDE JUST GO STOP PLAYING post, I'm just saying it's one of his options, seeing as... : deject
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        BRAD WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING? : mn3m0n1c
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          i failed my course on netiquette : bradsh
          • fine! ;P My point still stands, though- it's not like we didn't know there wouldn't be grenades for all, ... : mn3m0n1c
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  I like the "less is more" approach. In a 12 vs 12 game, there is already so much chaos that I can't imagi... : vynn
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    I have to say, I was a bit sad that they limited the players to 24, but after playing it, 24 is really th... : deject
    • I saw a 32 player server on the list last night. wish it had a spot open ;) : ]pm[chem
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      I actually prefer 8 vs 8 since 12 vs 12 seems to end in a stalemate more often. : vynn
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        oh man, on servers with long map timelimits, there is nothing more satisfying than grinding and finally b... : ]pm[chem
        • I really wish the respawn timers were more 5-10 seconds instead of 10-20 seconds. 20 seconds is just too... : deject
• Yeah I agree. On pretty much all of it. The game is largely arcade style fun, and while you'd like the ab... : Audhuml4
• Anyone remember the phase that FPS games went through when it seemed like developers were required to inv... : vynn
• You sure don't sound like you enjoy the game. Move on to something else? : Vangoghs Ear
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  How about you play Fortress Forever instead? It has everything you want. (Except for the new class.) : razlebol
  • already responded to identical comment, several posts above. : ]pm[chem
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  beta?? : m0rfus
  • or perhaps you should code your damn game. /shrug : m0rfus
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  PS: The game does have FF. Am I misreading him? What does he mean? : Vangoghs Ear
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    news today from valve that it was never supposed to have FF - they are taking the cvar out. : hirez
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      Well that solves that argument. Too bad, I preferred FF on. Oh well. : Vangoghs Ear
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        PS: Anyone got the link to this announcement? : Vangoghs Ear
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          confirmed via chatlogs with valve devs only. : hirez
          • Don't suppose anyone...asked 'em not to? : Vangoghs Ear
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          http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=15204809#itemanchor_15204809 : pancake humper
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            Thank you sir. : Vangoghs Ear
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              PSS My only doubt in this is that they DID know about FF (wasn't an "oops"), as they purposely altered th... : Vangoghs Ear
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                Taking away cvar's is bullshit. Every server admin will be mad. It's bad enough lots of other elements... : Draco
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                  and then? : Slowtreme
                  • And then I install metamod. : Draco
    • Wow. That sucks... big time. I only played on FF servers, as I find non-FF servers to be really boring. I... : OverloadUT
• it seems like it's supposed to be dumbed down and offer some fast simple multiplayer action that is FUN. ... : Downforce
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  speaking of overreactions... : Degenerate
  • see my post regarding "apologies", above. : ]pm[chem
• If I waited 10 years and simply got an engine upgrade with identical everything else I'd be pissed. I lik... : dmason
• The game is pretty much exactly what they've been saying it was going to be months ago. The only thing... : Helter Skelter
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  everything you listed is what i like about the game over tfc/etc i pray to god valve does not make any... : dewdman
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    you're opposed to a new class or additional CTF maps? to the option of friendly fire? : ]pm[chem
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      They have already said they'll be making more maps. Regarding a new class, what would it be? I can't thin... : Vangoghs Ear
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        Isn't it obvious? The game is missing a NINJA and a PIRATE! : vynn
        • haha, if spy == ninja, I think a melee class (call him "brawler"?) could be pirate. give them good movem... : ]pm[chem
    • I can't imagine they won't release more maps in time. and FF is totally lameo. : Mustang|
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  The game isn't dumbed down. It's streamlined. Grenades for every class was dumb. Being able to sit a... : cycopl
  • yeah, as I said, I enjoy the game. but after playing for a week, I find myself missing features. TF2's a... : ]pm[chem
• I just finished watching the Developer Commentary, it's highly recommended. Valve really put a lot of pl... : hawkeye
• it may need some tweaking but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be : tunis5000
• I have to admit, I agree with a lot of your points. Its not that is not fun this way, I just think it cou... : stygian_whisper
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  do not know nothing about halo, nor do i seem tohave an interest in it.would like toget some sort of resp... : castedster
  • you probably meant to make this a new thread. I'm surprised anyone even uses shackmail : RikiTiki2
• Can one or more of the people who run Shack servers do an informal poll by setting up two comparable serv... : Silent Sorrow
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  i think they aren't responding to overreactions but instead gameplay tests they did themselves. : gyokuro
  • Don't go bringing your REASON into this. : Damodred
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    listen to the commentaries. they're actually rather insightful on both the classes and the maps. : epit
    • Some of the things in the commentary seem outdated and incorrect. For instance, it says that the scout... : vynn
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  Less options doesn't necessarily make a game less skill required. In TF2's case, the emphasis appears to ... : ahlee
  • Whoops, I meant FPS in the sentence, "... or take Counter-strike, which is the poster child of dumbing do... : ahlee

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  looks like sveden is the place to be overall http://www.speedtest.net/global.php : [fry]
  • wtf japan stop downloading scat : [fry]
• Nothing like downloading censored sites at high speed! I actually don't know if China censors HK net a : Fred Garvin
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  It's really easy to run fiber everywhere when you only have 50 square miles to cover. Just saying. : jasonepowell
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    oh i know, the same applies for japan where the fact is, we nuked and then rebuilt a very large part of t... : smacknca
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      The telecommunications industry here in the states is so convoluted, and so closely regulated that it'll ... : liqker
      • Don't worry, America rocks the shit out of Japan when it comes to cell phone prices. It's expensive as f... : Nighteyes
      • Also, as soon as anyone suggests building a massive fiber network in a city, some flyover state senator i... : riptyde
• they ran a succesful test at 120mbps in another part of Amsterdam recently. I have 20mbit for e59.99 now,... : Maarten Goldstein
• does that come with 100gb bandwidth cap? : jono181
• Let's compare Hong Kong's geography and size to the US. : EvilDolemite
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  We can do FTTH here in the south where I work. But we arent offering yet because we also offer an IPTV s... : carazy
  • Yeah I meant we arent offering 100 megs : carazy
• Australia :[ : DingoStoleMyBaby
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  SWEDEN post. You know it was coming. 100MBit downstream, 10MBit upstream (on the paper, usually it see : SilverSnake
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    \o/ SWEDEN \o/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhi5F3_cPj0 : DingoStoleMyBaby
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      That's only one of the wonderful things we can bring to you. :D : SilverSnake
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        Know what you can bring me? A TRANSLATION! What the hell is going on in that show?? : Endymion_
        • Ack er okay, when I saw that youtube originally it did not have subtitles, we now conclude with my regula... : Endymion_
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  population density, price of everything else. : boomstickah
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    US bureaucracy and monopoly-by-region are blameless? : Ride-My-Rocket
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      Pretty much, there is nothing stopping people from doing 100 megs to the home here in the US now. Just t... : carazy
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        There is one reason. If you can sell people less for more and have no competitors, why the fuck bother? : terath
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          You have competitors normally dsl and cable and in some areas more like wimax and power companies. : carazy
          • DSL and Cable hardly seem to compete and I've yet to see a power company or wimax outfit yet. Maybe you a... : terath
          • In Denver we have Comcast for cable and Qwest for DSL, and they seem content to barely compete with each ... : riptyde
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          ^^^ This is why it's so fucking expensive. Cable/Telecom companies could easily put more bandwidth in ch... : SenorSpine
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            Thank god for the Comcast/Verizon battles. When Verizon started talking about running FIOS in our county... : Hiro
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              Yeah, when I lived in VA and FIOS was just starting up, Cox bumped us from 6/1 to 15/2 as soon as FIOS go... : riptyde
              • verizon has fiber in the street right in front of my house, but they don't plan to turn it on, or at leas... : cpt_gloval
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              Comcast also has a completely unadvertised package called "Blast" now available in most areas that have F... : Shadowdane
              • I pay $60 for 20/5, so it's not worth it. : Hiro
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            DSL is highly limited by the distance you are from the CO and basically their equipment in general. We c... : carazy
            • Hehe this is one of the primary reasons I chose cable over DSL. I'm not paying you $45/mo for a phone li... : riptyde
    • Not entirely, but what's mostly to blame is geographic area. It's much easier to rewire a small island e... : walker270
  • Negative on population density. : The Key
• However in the US you can get an apartment big enough to lie down in. : Rauol Duke
• We're too busy with important shit like deciding who will be the next AMERICAN IDOL. : Phil
• You think you're bad.. the area I live in can't get over 400Kbps... where as a few blocks over is easily ... : Edges
• then you realize the equivalent of your $200K apartment is selling for $1.5million in HK. lol. : vassili_zaitsev
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  What disgusts me is that COX charges $120 a month for a business account here that is 5mbit down 512k up : rosewood
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    A lot of ISPs have that pricing structure for businesses. I know our business customers get slower speed... : liqker
    • higher priority on the traffic shapers, I shouldn't say that because I was thinking of another company an... : liqker
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      My customer in Kansas City pays $60 a month for 7 down 768 up, static IP, no blocked ports, better QoS, h... : rosewood
      • Yea, most companies scale their business prices based on the competition in the area. I've never worke... : liqker
  • The entire communications industry has its hand lodged way up the governments ass like a puppet. If AT&T... : Saman
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  my new adsl2+ syncs at 22.5Mbps : CoRDS
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    Mine worked at 18mbit originally, it was awesome. Then, one day I came home - 0mbit and my phone line ... : abrasion
    • They probably swapped you over to a longer cable pair, bummer. : liqker
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    Can you spit on the DSLAM from your window? : liqker
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      pretty much, the exchange is across the road : CoRDS
      • Heh, my brother had ADSL2+ and was less than 1500 ft from the central office. He got the whole 20/1mbps ... : liqker
• im getting close! 15mbit up/down for $40/m in Utah. : paravis