Half-Life 2 Release Date

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  They also say that the levels were created with orange textures before being sent off to be textured etc. : Carnivac
  • Oh, I see. Orange is cool. We should have an o{orange}o tag :) : dodob
• yep you were exactly right. They seemed to mention that most of those shots were from the "tech demo" le... : malloc
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  Orange is the new pink... : voodooraze
  • I taught pink was the new orange?!? wtf : DelaZ
  • I need some new Puma shoes, They're so much better than this Rebook shoes! : Pink0r
  • Please Ignore this post I just wanted to see something. pink? o{orange}o that is all : voodooraze
  • n{orange}n or not : voodooraze

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  Either/Both, you can buy it on steam and download it, or you can buy it in shop in a box. : gl2 drivers
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    I like boxes. They come with pretty things I can hold. : ieGod
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      If its the same price, why would I download it? : GoofyBoy
      • because youre lazy?? : on_a_beach
    • What is this. : ieGod

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• I am doing the same thing... :) : johnny rotten
• i just finished Op For and Blus Shift again....Blue shift is more fun. funny thing is I got more enjo... : veggie
• aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhh : Cpt. Baseballbat

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  Uh. I only came in today to tell you I quit. BYE! *runs off* - or - I don't want to get off the tra... : verbatim
  • Yeah, I won the game that way... glich in the game with voodoo3's where the stupid train wouldn't open an... : Psychic Potato
• Lol .... oh the memories! : Cpt. Baseballbat
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  i got the demo about 3 weeks before release from a friend who was married to a Valve employee ... i have ... : onemind
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    rrrrrrrrrrrrrright.. and who is that... "Valve employee" ? : DelaZ
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      jesus ... not shittin ya ... who owned or still owns the company? his wife's brother (or cousin) worked ... : onemind
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        riiiiight, and what Money Store might that be? : bubble rap
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          The Money Store corp head quarters (aka the Ziggurat) in West Sacrament, CA : onemind
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            I don't know about the whole friend of valve employee thing, but it was leaked about a month before it wa... : --Viscid--
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              its was a demo to the top of the based just before you went down the shaft and the heli dropped the soldi... : onemind
              • it wasnt a demo. it was a portion of the game designed to ship with OEM products, like the soundcard. ... : johngloid
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  http://www.neuralspasm.com/c1a0_sci_ctrl4a.wav : --Viscid--
  • yes!! nice : onemind
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    do you have more??? : onemind
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      you sound so noobish.. no way you're getting a demo of HL 2... : DelaZ
      • who said anything about getting a demo of hl2? : onemind
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        its called nostalgia foo : onemind
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          never mind.. im tired.. of you.. and HL 2... no offence tough :P : DelaZ
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            none taken ... as far as i know you all just well written coverted IRC bots : onemind
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              How'd you know I was a shackbot. Who told? : Psychic Potato
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                I did.. Muhahaha! : DelaZ
                • YER FRICKN' DEAD!! :) : Psychic Potato

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  HL1 didn't have them either. : Stormrider
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    it did.. sorta.. where it took control for a few seconds while it did a scripted event.. : locobastard
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      I don't ever recalling it doing that. HL2 will have scripted events just like HL, just more interactive (... : Odoyle
      • hmm its been a long time since i played though it.. the more i think about.. i dont think there were an... : locobastard
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      The only time I remember it "taking control" away from you was when the marines were dragging you off. (B... : Stormrider
      • Could you look around? The view wasn't stationary, but I don't think you could move it yourself. : johnny appleseid
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      the only point in Half-Life where you didn't have control was just after you were captured by the marines... : johnny appleseid
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        ya thats the one i'm thinking of. damn.. well i'm just hoping for a cool intro or something.. what abo... : locobastard
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          well, what do you expect to be able to do while riding on a tram? :-) : johnny appleseid
          • accelerate the fucker to warp 1 : locobastard
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      The only cut scenes in half life that i remember were the endings. : vigilante
      • yeah, but you could move around in those. : johnny appleseid
• thats just the beauty of the game... they will tell you a story.. but without those stupid annoying cut s... : DelaZ
• What?! I want to play a game not watch a movie. : koder
• Crying for cutscenes? Complaining that it is coming out too soon? What the hell is going on in this threa... : emcea
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  It will have cutscenes, they will just be interactive. It's just semantics, I consider any time the game ... : Fred Garvin
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    "Perhaps the best definition of a cutscene is "any non-interactive storytelling or scene-setting element ... : koder
    • lol, I have to say though that I disagree with almost all of the article. It finishes with this. "Cutsce... : koder
    • It's hard to say. In this industry terms get tossed around and abused. For example I found out that what ... : Fred Garvin
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  Sigh x 99999 Stupid cutscenes. : 4ge
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    I like cutscenes. Half Life had a few. Remember when the shit first hits the fan during the experiment? Y... : ieGod
    • Cutscene / Plot are not the same thing. Also - as long as it comes through GORDONS EYES AS HE WOULD EX... : 4ge

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• I know it all too well my friend. Root test? How about the ratio test? No? Well you better hope it's not ... : ieGod

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• I had the same feelings, but then I realized that if dozens of people have been working on a game for 5 y... : gregorybrown
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  I think I'd trust Valve. I'm hoping that the gameplay will at least be kind of the same. The design loo... : angelparadox
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    <pup> UR FRICKEN DEAD </pup> : johnny rotten
    • O_O In reference to Ico? I enjoyed the game, but damn, that bitch sucks at running. : angelparadox
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  It wouldn't be Valve if they didn't give us those starting assumptions and then midway through turned eve... : Carnivac
  • exactly. : voltron
• from the screenshots it feels very half-life to me. the cranks, old broken down cars, the rust, open spac... : dodob
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  i think the fact that you're working for G-man GUARANTEES that you will be fighting the marines at some p... : voltron
  • Yes, I would be INCREDIBLY surprised to not end up fighting the G-man again. : Carnivac
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  "This game's played mostly in a European-style city? uhm....I don't see many good gameplay elements deriv... : Porkasaurus
  • ouch. There are going to be tears : ease_one
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    In the half-life genre a european setting is completely off. When I think half-life I think a desert and... : wunderbred
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      the setting doesn't bother me. it sorta works for me if i think of it as a mission to eastern europe or f... : dodob
      • Yeah, it just seems to not feel right. Perhaps that's intended. I'm just...I guess more than anything I... : wunderbred
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  the added bonus to have it in some European style city is that the textures for CS and WW2 clone style mo... : ease_one
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    why you gotta bring logic into these discussions? : lacker
    • I should have known better. I should have had a shack poll about brown socks or bagels. : ease_one
• just wait and see---how can you make such assumptions without *really* knowing? Boring europeans cities?? : jrgn
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  You joined the G-Man? So now your enemy is just the aliens (who weren't that original to begin with)? Not : Stormrider
  • who said G-Man... ever was an enemy??? : DelaZ
  • Don't forget the people you work with. : Porkasaurus
• This game's played mostly in a European-style city? uhm....I don't see many good gameplay elements derivi : Odoyle
• So instead of a desert you get trees. Big woop. YOU KNOW there will be a group of enemy marines. There... : Topaz
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  aint pc gamer pissed at people posting there mag on sites of half life 2 i heard there asking people to t... : 2dope4uz
  • How isn't he an enemy? He wanted you to work for him or die! Remember the ending!? But I'd love to see so... : ieGod

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• Agreed, they must have a lot of solid work done. 5 years. You'd hope so.... : awoihjaweohr
• probably one of the benefits of keeping quiet... If they had said Q3 2003 last year or at E3 2002, everyo... : edgewise
• It better be VERY far along. Its been long enough dammit! : Reignman
• No shit. It would have to be a good ways along to even think of that kind of release date. IMPRESSIVE : Kaiser
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  That seems like a no-win situation If you hit it then people automatically expect you to do it every tim... : Cpt. Baseballbat
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    Very true, but it's a little bit different here, I think. They're technically announcing it when they're : Flawless Cowboy
    • Didn't Westwood/EA do something similar with C&C Generals? : Kaiser
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  Didn't the HL1 release get pushed back? : iamgoat
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    That's because they redid the game. Haha. : Flawless Cowboy
    • And THAT'S why I have faith in them for this game. : Carnivac
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      I remember a great article about "The Cabal", talking about how they sat down and said "man, this game is... : KungFuKenobi
      • Yeah! That was a great article. : Flawless Cowboy
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        That was Gamespot's "The Final Hours of Half-Life." Great, great article. Anyone who hasn't read it ought... : avixe
        • "The net result is that we threw out just about everything," admits Birdwell. "All the AI was gone, and w... : joekamel
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      No they also pushed it back a couple of times for debugging. I am wondering if the same will happen he... : stgdz
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        After 4 years, I don't think these guys would dick around. It'll probably be completed this summer someti... : Flawless Cowboy
        • I wouldn't really be angry at Valve if the missed the release date though. If it happened to 3D Realms o... : iamgoat
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          if you ask me, i think its done now or almost done, and they are getting ready to start the testing phase : jedi_27
          • yeah that is what valve is apparently big on. They said they played half life through multiple MULTIP... : stgdz
• thats just amazing! the amazing part is if the date is solid, they have been working on this for sometim... : jedi_27
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  i'd hate to be the troll of the thread, but... remember these guys also announced the released dates f : Fleabix
  • I don't think that qualifies you as a troll -- it's a good point. But you would think they'd learn from ... : Ride-My-Rocket

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• I pray that a CS mod takes a few months at least so that it is not just a mass exodus from HL1 to HL2 sol... : Ratalon
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  I actually prefer the game WITHOUT the tau, though I became a gauss jumping whore just the same. I could... : Don Vito Corleone
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    gasworks = best map ever. : johnny rotten
    • ya regualr half life or opforce it was the best map i loved placing insane amounts of trip mines though... : locobastard
    • Gasworks is HAWT! : GoofyBoy
  • double pumping that shotgun was gaming bliss. : malloc
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    the tau is HL DM. without it, HL DM would have been just another run-of-the-mill multiplayer mode tacked... : voltron
    • "but the movement that the tau allows changes everything and radically alters the way that the more stand : 4ge
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  Great, please add the least balanced weapon I've ever seen in an FPS so that we only use that and anyone ... : 4ge
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    the fact that it's deadly and difficult to master doesn't make it unbalanced. and based on the other wea... : voltron
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      of course it's not unbalanced, everyone can get one and use one, it's not like only bob can pick it up in... : 4ge
      • P.S I think Don Vito knows what I mean also (well I hope he does he seems to) see http://www.shacknews... : 4ge
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        okay, now you're making sense. i understand the problems it poses for new players. someone who steps in... : voltron
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          this thread makesme so sad i never really played HL-DM :( : lacker
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            it's not too late to start. people still play, but it's a small, tight-knit community, kind of like QW t... : voltron
            • i'm not into getting raped. but thanks. : lacker
        • You are one cool motherfucker.. If only people saw my opinion and replied with posts like that previ... : 4ge
• Holy shit this is the first Shacknews HLDM thread that i completely enjoy and can agree with. Longjump a... : kingdepork

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  No official word on when DooM3 will be out. : Kaiser
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    my guess is october 31st : stgdz
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      My guess is the exact day of the 10 year anniversary of Doom :() : aggressor
      • On the downside, you just made me feel old. Fucker. But then again, playing Doom III could really be ... : Ride-My-Rocket
• I thought Deus Ex 2 was coming out in June? I swear I just read that in some mag. : parker.ny

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  most companies reuiqre that you sign a non-disclosure.. and yues it does threaten your job if you were... : Xion
  • Yeah, pretty much, if you violate an NDA like this, count it on being your last story ever published. : krazy_yak
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  Like I said yesterday, Ive known about it/seen shots for months but all I was greeted with was jealous a... : tribes2
  • probably more your sparkling and positive personality... : johnny rotten
  • go vent elsewhere fgs : beebeecee
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    obeying an NDA makes you special? wtf, get off your high horse : jaga
    • awwww : tribes2
  • Christ you're a fag. . . Allow me to enlighten you: people don't like elitism. If you're going to post... : Cpt. Baseballbat
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  it's been a fairly poorly kept secret. everyone knew it was coming, there just wasn't anything OFFICIAL ... : psychobean
  • I didn't know it was coming. I'm surprised. Good job valve. : ieGod
• the demo is dated september 2002, but it was only shown to journalists within the last month. in other wo... : rudds
• working for valve is probably like working for the CIA. All the family and friends' of Valve employees th... : veggie

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• Apparently, according to the magazine articles, you can shoot through and eventually destroy wooden doors... : rec au

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  Did anyone else hang out at www.contaminated.net forums before HL release? Ah the memories. Thinking ba... : Peace frog
  • i remember the website. I used to hang out in the a HL irc channel before it was released because i was ... : ease_one

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• ...and you haven't even played it! woooo : SlamDunk

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  and also year of good summer movies (SUMMER MOVIES YOU SNOBBY FILM JERKS! ok example of bad summer for mo... : dodob
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    THE HULK! : Colin Higgins
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      You my friend are forgetting The Matrix, much more promising than the cartoony looking Hulk : spendin_cheese
      • The effects are supposed to improve with the next trailer. But I haven't forgot The Matrix...no way. : Colin Higgins
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  Duke won't be released this year. : wunderbred
  • Dont speak about Duke or you could be banned. Not sure why, but I was temp banned for asking George in... : Peace frog
• Yes Duke will be released this x-mas : shack_konto
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  and STALKER http://www.oblivion-lost.com/community/screenshots/sb_xray_35.jpg unf : Turd Ferguson
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    Looks too smiliar to unreal tournament :/ Hell they had the same type of sky in one of the levels :) : darkT
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      What? : Flawless Cowboy
      • does not compute here either. : malloc
    • get some new eyes. : Turd Ferguson
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  You forgot the most important one: Planetside. : Aubrey Philipsz
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    hmm, no...... : Turd Ferguson
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      Galaxies? : Topaz
      • Oh, yes, SWG is important too. (At least for the huge and lesser nerds.) :o) : Aubrey Philipsz
    • I was talking to awnknee! ;o) : Aubrey Philipsz
• And the death of new franchises. : emcea
• And a PC version of Vice City, and possibly even a PC version of Halo! : davew2040

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• I just pre-ordered that on EBGames. : Porkasaurus
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  they confirmed that in one of the articles : Antilles_Prime
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    yeah but its just funny.. that HL3 is already planned.. (website url to) and the Second isnt even in stor... : DelaZ
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      there is a 3rd matrix planned and the 2nd one isnt even in theatres yet. <g> : Antilles_Prime
      • Ya, and considering they already are done filming it, let's hope it really does come out. : Phreakin
      • just funny.. g : DelaZ
      • Same thing for Battle Field Earth. Acording to Entertaiment Tonight from a few years ago, a sequel has al... : essay_due_tomorrow

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• http://www.shacknews.com/ja.zz?id=7310090 : gregorybrown

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  Whatever Neil Manke wants to make is fiiiiiiiine by me. : johnny rotten
  • Yeah, no kidding. That guy is awesome. : Colin Higgins
• why can't this question be applied to any engine ? : jedi_27
• what about a predator mod where one or two peeps are a predator and the rest are Commandos? : riceremloh
• this mod where you can set someone on fire and piss on them. oh wait... :) : dodob
• What about "somekind" of mod... with "somekind" of police force ..erm or something like that.. and they h... : DelaZ
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  I would like to see Natural Selection ported to the HL2 engine. :o) : Aubrey Philipsz
  • actually, depending on how the features of the engine work out, i would like to see ns ported to the doom... : marku5
• id like to see one where you go around shooting people : snuffed
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  I can tell you what mods I'm tired of seeing. Anything based on WW2, tactical weapons, vietnam, marines, ... : Porkasaurus
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    i will make games for you : johngloid
    • What about a mod.. where you have to kill Aliens in a city.. and you're all covered up with a special ora... : DelaZ
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    what about a mod where you stomp on baskets of kittens? : ease_one
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      nah.. they had that mod with Q1... And stomping dogs baskets is way cooler : DelaZ
      • whoa, there is a mod? give me link plz! : wretchedmage
      • what about a stfu mod.. : DelaZ
• some sort of racing mod, a flight sim mod, and a hockey mod : rigidnips

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  aye. 3drealms should take notice.......................... : AMikaboshi
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    So it is better to not know what will be.. then to know and wait? : Ratalon
    • we have "known" and have been waiting for DNF ...forever. we have not "known" about HL2, it just came ou... : jigstah
  • actually, they've realized their mistake for a long time and have since tried to correct it by not releas : edgewise
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  GeorgeB has said many times they've learnt their lesson. : Carnivac
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    I didn't mean to rub it in GeorgeB's face. I actually forgot he would be reading the shack comments. ... : jigstah
    • frustrating. : jigstah
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  Yeah i'm sure 3drealms loves to hear this kind of thing. Although they are used to it by now, I think you... : ovrlrd
  • I'm a monster!!! : jigstah
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    3drealms is loving all this attention even when the thread is suppose to be about HL2. 3dRealms will kno... : computerBoy
    • i agree, i think some of them might feed off of the controversey. a lot of them post in forums and stu... : johngloid

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• It could mean all those things. There will be website previews on that date though apparently. The ma... : Carnivac
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  basically. NDA = Non Disclosure Agreement. They're not allowed to talk/show anything that they have been ... : V0lk
  • Yeah, after the 28th everybody who signed the NDA is free to publish what they saw/heard/experienced at o... : Odoyle

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  And Neo-Nazi groups. : Colin Higgins
  • who are hot chicks : dodob
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  polygons != hot chicks : SERIOUSly the SAMe
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    but haven't you read? characters are going to lift their arms and their boobs will follow, with that musc... : dodob
    • wo... OW! genius : DelaZ
    • if that's the case I'm going to run around making my sidekick get things from the top shelf. : malloc
• tatu? : snuffed

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• Out with the old and in with the new i say. If they are just about finished, then yeah release it. but do... : onji
• work on CS2 already started, i saw an interview with gooseman a while ago it showed him modelling a g36 a... : Turd Ferguson
• Well it should do well with the under 1ghz crowd : baron calamity
• One thing is that it might be a hit for the ppl with 3 year old computers, but what the hell is the point... : Stage
• CZ is a n00b trainer...anyone with skillz need not apply : Cpt. Baseballbat

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  We covered this yesterday, but remember the shots are apparently from the September 2002 tech build accor... : Carnivac
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    You have a link to this conversation? : DelaZ
    • I dunno go browse through the thread it came up like 23 times. : Carnivac
• The graphics are better then anything we've seen in a game that is out today. So be happy. The preview so... : yourname00
• Screenshots from a half-year old tech demo are never to be trusted. : gregorybrown
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  Shots look great but no generalized/global lighting as in Doom3. But it looks like the performance was w... : bbq gibs
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    http://www.planethalflife.com/nostalgia/halflife/screens/gordon_earlier.jpg haha off topic.. but so funny... : DelaZ
    • Did they drag a homless bum into the studio to test the suit? : Aubrey Philipsz
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  they didnt even smooth the polys on the pillard :/ :) : johngloid
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    Could they smooth circles with the Q3 engine? (I think so) : DelaZ
    • im forgetting its map geometry and not models. i thought there were some lighting tricks to make the bru... : johngloid

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  yes, they are different,b tue they are definatly similar. : Turd Ferguson
  • Heh, that's what I'm saying. : angelparadox
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  Yeah, and from War of the Worlds. : gregorybrown
  • Oooo, yeah. I was trying to remember from where else... : angelparadox

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  yeah right, you will break during E3 :) : zyklonbee
  • he'll break on april 28 : esky
• When I clap, its always in a state of excitement. : GoofyBoy
• yea, I told myself the same thing - wont work. Someone will say "did you see the HL2 E3 video?" and I'll ... : Madwacker

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• Dude, sshhh!! You'll wake tomatoactivator again, and he will swear this doesn't exist! (seeing as Valve d... : timm
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  I love the eyes : Unleashed
  • They shoulda kept those yanno. : Matto357
• the art-direction they had back then was great.. always makes you chuckle :) : Lethal01
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  I have the first Half-Life teaser video lying around on my hard-drive somewhere here... It's a laugh and ... : rec au
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    You should upload that somewhere :( : aggressor
    • Sure thing, I'll dig it up and throw it onto an FTP somewhere - Will post in the forum when done (keeping... : rec au
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      http://www.fileplanet.com/dl/dl.asp?/planethalflife/nostalgia/mpegs/halflife_orig.mpg : TK-421
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        File can't be found. : MarksmanX
        • Ok I lied. It's copy and paste. : MarksmanX
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        Windows Media Player encountered an unknown error. : esky
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          Get it from the 2nd server, all the old halflife movies on the first server are corrupted. : eiopa
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            What codec is needed for those Half Life movies? I get sound bu corrupted visuals. I have downloaded from... : xoron
            • I get nothing when trying to play it : aggressor
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              No codec, its standard MPEG1 stuff.. I'm pretty sure your file is corrupted, as I had the very same prob... : eiopa
              • Downloaded a few times! still the same problem :( any other places to download some old half-life movies? : xoron

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• in house testing? tweaks? multiplayer? single player? Hard to say, really. Could be anything and every... : jigstah
• building barrels to hold all their money. : edgewise
• crate physics? I KEED, I KEEED : jigstah
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  Final compatibility testing and minor tweaks I'd guess. : Carnivac
  • exactly. my money is that the game is done, and they are just making final preperations ... how else do y... : Antilles_Prime
• From the sounds of the PC Gaymer article, there's still map development to be done. : snagger
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  The crates. : Stage
  • They'd be fools not to. : gl2 drivers
  • why else would they have a crowbar around, well other than to smack the security guard in the face. : Turd Ferguson
• They're probably got one or two more iterations of remaking the game from scratch. That and they're all l... : gregorybrown
• jump puzzles : dodob

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  Actually, there were quite a few previews of the original version of Half-Life before they scrapped it an... : pyrogen
  • you can find some shots on the shack :E : elementZen
  • yeah lots of movies and stuff showing it off : ease_one
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  umm you are wrong : Xion
  • wow... interesting argument. : tomatoactivator
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  ummm no, Valve realeased sshots of HL years before it came out just like everyone else. : magila
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    ummm, no there was a whole lot more shit for the other engines, namely Sin. : tomatoactivator
    • So they didn't release early screenshots, huh? Explain this, then: http://www.shacknews.com/screens.x/... : timm
    • There were a lot of early screenshots. They just didn't do the stupid "screenshot of the day" like other ... : V0lk
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  Dude, you either wasn't into gaming back then, or you were living under a rock. Early shots appeared (... : timm
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    no way, they have been working on Halflife for a long time now. Half-life 2 was probably in small pre pro... : tomatoactivator
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      Wait.. are you talking about HL2 being kept under a lid, or HL1? If you mean HL2, then you are indeed... : timm
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        indeed : FuzzyOnion
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          Correct indeed! To further prove my point, Half-Life was actually announced in 1997 and was suppoused ... : timm
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            a year before release IS right before they release it imo. : tomatoactivator
            • "Right before they release it" is in NO WAY "out of nowhere", and even if it were.. really dude, 1 year j... : timm
      • Seems he's making it sound like he was talking about HL2 being kept secret. But his post and his defense... : kingdepork
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  i read about HL in 1997 you ignorant dumbass : junkstyle
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    ^^^sorry i'm grumpy today. Youre not a dumbass...just ignorant : junkstyle
    • and it came out in 98. holy shit you got a fucking scoop there. : tomatoactivator
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  yeah art and shots were released quite a long time before the game was released. I was working on Half... : Xion
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    I dissagree, you are wrong. : tomatoactivator
    • Are you high? Every other person in this thread remembers lots of screenshots and movies of HL, yet you'r... : V0lk
• I dont care you are still ugly and lack the ability to accept fault in your statements ;) : Xion
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  there were lots of screenshots and movies of half life showing off just very short clips of gaming maj... : -=kodiak=-
  • but see we are still wrong : Xion
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  i remember reading a few previews of it. one was in an issue of sierra insider that i got. : maulla
  • Oh, don't mind him.. announcing it a year or even more before they ship is "announcing it RIGHT before re... : timm
• now he is known as the Shack Information Minister. what? Are these screenshots from the early develop... : Xion