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• Hey cool, I like both of those names! I'll have to look into this when my contract runs out in two years! : Hemtroll
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  More - http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/nokia-and-microsoft-enter-strategic-alliance-on-windows-phone-b... : airrob
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    I don't get the bit about Nokia Maps becoming "a core part of Microsoft’s mapping services." Micro... : airrob
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      Bing uses Navteq maps, like Ovi maps. Navteq is owned by Nokia... : Ariakus
      • It says "Nokia Maps", not Navteq, which is interesting? : airrob
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  Smartest thing Nokia could have done, I like it : Serpico74
  • Ok, I really really like this : Serpico74
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  Holy shit. This is a brilliant move for both companies. Very impressive. : Danny5225
  • Reading on, it looks like this is an announcement of an announcement. There aren't many things inked out,... : Danny5225
• impressive, most impressive : jabuck
• nokia has always made great hardware, lets finally see them put out some phones that are actually competi... : smacknca
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  nobody gave a shit when i posted it yesterday >:( http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=25236346 especia... : Hoax
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    It was just confirmed about a half hour ago - up to then, it was just rumors. : airrob
    • the lead-up to it was interesting, there were strong indications that is was about to go down. : Hoax
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  I like how the first big feature Steve Ballmer mentions is... Bing : xlarti
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    Yes? It's a flagship product. : uncleanmonkey
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      He names it a brand that consumers "want". : xlarti
      • what is wrong with bing? it seems like a good search engine. : jabuck
      • i would love for bing to catch up too google and as long as i have a choice which one to use its a brand ... : Hoax
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        Xlarti's First Rule of Marketing: If you have poor brand value, have your CEO admit it in every press rel... : Ovate
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          I just thought it funny that it's the first brand out of his mouth mentioned alongside Office and Xbox Li... : xlarti
          • But yeah ofc I see why he does it - it's just not a plus in the vast majority of consumers minds. : xlarti
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  hope this means nokia adopts wp7 , and microsoft adopts nothing from nokia : Chandler55
  • they did, from the press release above: "Nokia would adopt Windows Phone as its principal smartphone str : jabuck
• Synergiastic! : dodob
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  http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/02/11/welcome-to-the-third-ecosystem/ Not sure what the first and ... : airrob
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    I think the first and second 'Ecosystems' would be Apple and Android. : master_disaster_17
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      Damn you! >_< : Danny5225
      • muarharharhar. : master_disaster_17
    • I guess - interesting that they would intentionally position themselves like that. : airrob
  • iOS and Android, I would assume. : Danny5225
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    Look at the nerds crying about MeeBo and Symbian going away. This means it will be a success. : Serpico74
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      I love the commenters who are convinced that qt + Symbian was light years ahead of WP7. : Danny5225
      • Fucking nerds don't understand that bulletpoint featurelists (or as I like to call it, "marketing for nec... : Serpico74
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      i'm going to check the maemo/meego forums today. dudes gotta be pissed given that they have invested 18 m : Hoax
      • That is fucking hysterical, I'm going to have to steal that : Serpico74
    • don't give a shit about the mobile stuff, but I do like the Qt toolkit on the desktop. Hopefully this do... : MamiyaOtaru
• Hell, it's about time. : master_disaster_17
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  I'm surprised they didn't go Android, I bet Microsoft made them a very good offer to get them on board. G... : MeestaNob
  • Going android would make Nokia just another player along with HTC and Samsung. And they'd be late to the ... : master_disaster_17
  • google was in the talks as well. its a good alliance though, win7 seems nice from what i read and nokia m... : Hoax
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    Not going with Android was so smart. Two reasons: 1) Every other handset company uses Android. Commiti... : Serpico74
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      Do not underestimate Nokia's potential to adapt WP7 into a different version for every single one of thei... : melt_core
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        That would be as bad as if they went with Android. I am hopeful that Microsoft will continue to reign ove... : Serpico74
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          haha you REALLY hate android : razorblade79
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            Are you telling me there is people that actually like that about Android? The fact that every Android pho... : ovrlrd
            • I like android, I like my phone with the htc suite on top. I could flash it and install a custom rom with... : razorblade79
      • They're not allowed to. : uncleanmonkey
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      did Andy kill your family or something ?!! i cant find a reason for all this hatred that you have. As for... : hanged_man
      • I can modify the engine in my car, but I shouldn't have to in order to enjoy it. With most Android phones... : ovrlrd
      • If you're looking for a slick and well-designed consumer device, android is pretty far behind both Window... : uncleanmonkey
  • I've always loved Nokia phones - but I wanted WP7. Just not in the crippled state is has in europe with a... : xlarti
  • You shouldn't be, a few weeks ago a top Nokia executive compared going with Android with "kids who pee in... : melt_core
• A post for developers, talks about WP7 SDK vs. Qt/Symbian - http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/nokia-devel... : airrob
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  Well this is interesting - http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/24/editorial-nokia-isnt-building-an-android-or... : airrob
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    Yeah, then this happens: http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/08/nokia-ceo-stephen-elop-rallies-troops-in-brut... : Serpico74
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      While competitors poured flames on our market share, what happened at Nokia? We fell behind, we missed bi : Serpico74
      • Wow. Takes balls to tell it how it is, that's exactly what I'e thought of Nokia for a while, they're late... : node
• hoy shitsticks : PixelPie
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  Fantastic news. The Windows Phone development has got to be the easiest platform to develop on from a UI ... : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
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    well some people point out that even their old nokia phones could to what win7 can't
    
    WP7-specific limitations
    
    No system-wide file manager
    No Bluetooth file transfers
    No USB mass storage mode
    Limited third-party apps availability
    No Flash or Silverlight support in the browser
    Too dependent on Zune software for file management and syncing
    No video calls
    No custom ringtones
    Music player lacks equalizer presets
    No multitasking
    No copy/paste
    No DivX/XviD video support (automatic transcoding provided by Zune software)
    No sign of free Bing maps Navigation so far
    No internet tethering support
    
    http://www.techknots.com/mobiles/wp7-limitations/

    Feb 11, 2011 1:04am PST
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    well some people point out that even their old nokia phones could to what win7 can't WP7-specific limi... : Hoax
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      Irrelevant given that the experience of actually using those Nokia phones is crap. Also note that many of... : Serpico74
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        its relevant to people who buy their phones for specific reasons. i have no doubt that microsoft will man... : Hoax
        • "Features" are useless unless actually using them is facilitated by the interface. This was the real sign... : Serpico74
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      Goddamn some of those 'missing' features are so nerdy and irrelevant. : filthysock
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        I dunno, they all seem pretty relevant to me. What makes this a 'smartphone' if it cant do most of that s... : MeestaNob
        • the following I don't think are that important: No system-wide file manager No Bluetooth file transfers... : filthysock
• This make me happy, even though I love Android, and don't forsee changing platforms. This kind of thin... : famine101
• Obviously, they're finally building this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX-gTobCJHs : Vincent Grayson
• This is great actually, I'm quite excited about this. : nomaad
• good news for us wp7devs Nokia on their own island was losing relevancy and they might as well ride all ... : threeup
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  I think this is gonna be a huge fail. The biggest thing about Nokia is their wide range of phones. The... : kabex
  • This doesn't stop them from still making Symbian "dumb" phones. But they've realised in particular that t... : node
  • They are already losing all their market share this is an attempt to save the future of the company. And ... : furiouschuck
• Dumb. Android would have allowed them to innovate and stay competitive. Nokia is going to be undercut by ... : MeenMunky
• So meego is dead? I wonder how this affects QT development. : GloriousCow