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Dragon Age 2 Trailer: PC Combat Walkthrough

by Alice O'Connor, Dec 17, 2010 8:00am PST

Related Topics – Dragon Age 2, , xbox 360, Trailer, PlayStation 3, PC

Dragon Age II's lead designer Mike Laidlaw steps into the limelight in a new trailer with PC gameplay footage to illustrate two different approaches to combat in BioWare's fantasy RPG sequel--one he describes as "action-RPG" and the other "pause and play."

Dragon Age II is slated to launch for PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 on March 8, 2011. If you pre-order before January 11, 2011, you'll be upgraded to the BioWare Signature Edition for free, which packs an extra character, in-game items and the soundtrack.

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Anyone here think Bioware will ever make another Shadows of Amn-caliber game? I know it's an unrealistic expectation for any developer to best or even equal a previous effort that stands as one of the best pc rpgs of all time, but how hard can it be to try to recreate the ruleset/combat system at least? I'm not expecting the artistic quality or the breadth but at least give me the combat Bioware! I'm sick of seeing my favorite devs continue to dumb their combat systems down with each subsequent release/IP.

Dec 24, 2010 10:51pm PST

Anyone here think Bioware will ever make another Shadows of Amn-caliber game? I know it's an unrealistic ... : spitcodfry

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So disappointing. This game looks like it was built from the ground up for a console. I better run and get an Xbox 360 controller. Sorry Bioware, you have alienated the fan base that made you who you are. Dreaming of Baldur's Gate...

Dec 21, 2010 4:24pm PST

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So disappointing. This game looks like it was built from the ground up for a console. I better run and ... : buzzin1999
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- Sigh....ah Baldur's Gate, ah Planescape: Torment. Those were the days. /creaking back in forth in rocking... : spitcodfry

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And how the hell do you balance combat that works both in real time and paused? By its very nature, real time combat needs to be easier! By its very nature, paused or turn-based combat needs to be difficult to account for the need for tactics and thought!

I smell two half-arsed approaches to combat.

Dec 17, 2010 12:40pm PST

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And how the hell do you balance combat that works both in real time and paused? By its very nature, real... : bladderfish
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- I agree. I don't see how this can possibly work without perhaps some sort of AI that dynamically changes ... : MeestaNob
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  As somebody mentioned below... if you play at the higher difficulty levels in action mode.. you are proba... : Gwyndion
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    I wouldn't count on the highest difficulty settings being difficult. The patches for DAO made the game mu... : Uglzorp
    - Plus they'll probably have DLC which puts overpowered weapons and armor in your backpack at the start of ... : tigeN

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I tried to get into Dragon Age but I just couldn't I think because I came off just playing Mass Effect 2 and your main character in DA just seemed so lifeless like a cardboard cut out during all the scenes. Plus I didn't really enjoy the combat aspect of the game. I plan on giving it one more try but my back log of games and all the 2011 release coming up are going to keep me busy as hell.

Dec 17, 2010 10:12am PST

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I tried to get into Dragon Age but I just couldn't I think because I came off just playing Mass Effect 2 ... : ShXIII
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Doesn't look bad at all. Seems you can set up some nice combos. Might not be as complex as the last, but it seems like the flow will be faster. That's a good thing. Too many people hated to micromanage that game.

Dec 17, 2010 8:07am PST

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Doesn't look bad at all. Seems you can set up some nice combos. Might not be as complex as the last, bu... : kingdepork
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  Really the Micro management need is base on difficulty level. If this sequel is anything like the origin... : Miller_TYM
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    That depends on how you played the original game. 1) Did you play the unpatched version? 2) Did you p... : Uglzorp
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      I still don't see how you could get through the game without any micromanagement. I had both Morrigan and... : Uglzorp
      
      Oh, and just to confirm, you played it on the PC, right? The console versions were apparently a lot easie... : Uglzorp

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Or....you can watch the REAL High Def stream on Youtube sans adverts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otNeByBo-8k

Dec 18, 2010 10:48am PST

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Or....you can watch the REAL High Def stream on Youtube sans adverts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o... : ev0ljon
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  Honestly Shack, I'm calling you out on your BS HD stream. If you're going to copy a video that has it's ... : ev0ljon
  - Shack HD is something like 240p. Really irritating clickthrough trap. : Athlon7

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"Dragon Age II is slated to launch for PC, Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 on March 8, 2011. If you pre-order before January 11, 2011, you'll be upgraded to the BioWare Signature Edition for free, which packs an extra character, in-game items and the soundtrack."

Pre-order from where, exactly?

Dec 17, 2010 5:39pm PST

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  - Thanks. I was just curious if it was specific places, like ONLY the EA store or something. Saddens me t... : ch4ot1c0n3

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After nothing but pessimism so far on my side, being a Baldurs Gate purist and that, this video gives me a glimmer of hope. Make it shine, Bioware.

Dec 17, 2010 9:39pm PST

After nothing but pessimism so far on my side, being a Baldurs Gate purist and that, this video gives me ... : yobock

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Can't wait! This should quiet all those nay sayers that DA2 is being "dumbed down".

Dec 17, 2010 3:21pm PST

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Can't wait! This should quiet all those nay sayers that DA2 is being "dumbed down". : mkdirbob
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      Yeah, and some people are easily impressed as their lack of experience has them swooning over things that... : JackAxe
      
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      I've been gaming for a good 22 years and played many many RPGs. I guess I just like a more variety to my ... : mkdirbob
      
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      I think the story was actually the weakest aspect of the game. The gameplay and polish almost make up for... : roodytwotone
- DA:O was dumbed down. : 0mar

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So the combat will play out like in DAO? On easy & normal you could basically run around in the OTS view and smash your mb while letting your party to do what ever the hell it is they do on default, while in hard and especially in nightmare you had to stop and think what you're doing and basically micromanage your party and pause constantly. Only thing that seems to have changed is the 'repsonsiveness' of the animations and how the characters react to your commands. Everything seems more flashier and fluid.

I just hope the higher difficulty settings will genuinely incentivize you to play tactically. Pausing and micromanaging shouldn't be in there just for shits and giggles; it should actually have a purposeful function for the gameplay.

Dec 17, 2010 2:56pm PST

So the combat will play out like in DAO? On easy & normal you could basically run around in the OTS view ... : VisitorQ

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This is exactly what was needed to allay the fears of many PC players. Well-done, Bioware.

Dec 17, 2010 9:46am PST

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This is exactly what was needed to allay the fears of many PC players. Well-done, Bioware. : M337ING
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    - Right, which is why I expect advances. : Rooster Cockburn
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So, X-Com: Apocalypse?

Dec 17, 2010 1:06pm PST

So, X-Com: Apocalypse? : azshack

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It looks completely B-rate. The animations look terrible, not to mention the GUI.

Dec 17, 2010 8:25am PST

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It looks completely B-rate. The animations look terrible, not to mention the GUI. : st4rdog
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Unless they fix the balance problems in the first game, there's no real point in having a combat system. After like level 8 as a mage, the game is simply no longer a challenge.

Dec 17, 2010 1:00pm PST

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This looks good.

Dec 17, 2010 9:55am PST

This looks good. : ashkie

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Hey, Bioware. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING OUT THIS VIDEO!

I had read a bunch of stuff about the combat and the game seemed far less interesting to me - this however seems awesome!

The only further concern I have is that you may reduce the ability to personalize characters by choosing cool skills and extra classes for them - that would be a shame. Here's your chance to put out a new video showing me not to worry!

Dec 17, 2010 9:45am PST

Hey, Bioware. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PUTTING OUT THIS VIDEO! I had read a bunch of stuff about the com... : Aztiel

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This is my smug "told ya so" face. I knew they wouldn't fuck this up.

Dec 17, 2010 9:34am PST

This is my smug "told ya so" face. I knew they wouldn't fuck this up. : Vincent Grayson

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It looks like they may have successfully appealed to two different sets of people with this game. Bravo!

Dec 17, 2010 8:32am PST

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Oh shit, it's not looking good for the Dragon Age team. EA turned off the power in their offices :(

Dec 17, 2010 8:38am PST

Oh shit, it's not looking good for the Dragon Age team. EA turned off the power in their offices :( : Lord Skellington

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While I just got Dragon Age Origins Ultimate Edition and have really enjoyed my time with it as well as the battle system, this video really put my fears at rest about the combat for DA2. One of the biggest problems I had in Origins was that the melee combat as a tank, rogue or even Arcane Warrior was that it was almost like auto-play. The real-time elements seem to correct that.

Dec 17, 2010 8:37am PST

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