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  I use LastPass and I love it.. paid for the yearly it's so great. : stonedonkey
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    http://lastpass.com/ : stonedonkey
    • this is like Mint for passwords, yes? : get_navi
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    what happens when Anonymous hacks LastPass? : Slowtreme
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      http://lastpass.com/support_faqs.php#stolen : stonedonkey
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        Also: Steve Gibson, a respected security industry expert reviewed LastPass in his Security Now podcast : stonedonkey
        • That would be this guy: www.grc.com. He has a podcast on Twit with Leo Laporte : EricZBA
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          Computer security, had quite a bit of work experience. : aethyr
          • I applaud you. : zuga
  • I forgot that LastPass bought Xmarks. The dual subscription sounds decent now. : cryptical
  • I might have to try this. I'm currently using http://www.memengo.com/ but they don't have an Android app... : Arcanum
  • I love LastPass. So easy. : OmegaRed59
• chemical brothers cd 'exit planet dust' = exit button on desk = button this basic idea for simple pas... : exit button
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  I use KeePass + Dropbox : Clay
  • This is the method I use too. : Alco23
  • This : csana
  • I also do this : Crazy Hawaiian
  • for the motherfucking win. And it's free, too. : Arctic Fox
  • best solution for all platforms... KeePassDroid on the android works too. : Demius
  • I've been doing this for a few years now and dig it. : Simulacrum
  • +1. Android + iOS + Windows + OS X app = win : griebelking
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  i just use the nick of my favorite shacker that contains a number. : kbnerd
  • is it me? : ZenzenTen
  • yaaaaaaay : 60days
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    Thanks Mister! :D : DM7
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      Your name is too short to be a password. Maybe it's repeated over and over. : TheNiXXeD
      • It could be dm7ismyfavoriteshacker. ;D : DM7
  • D3G3NR8? : Bull
  • I'm flattered. : snot3353
  • It's obviously me cuz we're such awesome friends. We're just the type of awesome friends that don't ever ... : prime8
  • I'm password worthy : flubba79
  • I should've expected as much. : one random winner
• 1password : manero
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  abc123 Best password their is. Use it. Live it. : daroach1414
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    It is so good. If every person on the internet used this password there would be no more problems. : Tchest
    • I'm biased toward password or asdf1234. : xylopagus
• word doc with everything written down. : Fenring42
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  I use my birthday + a rotating number sequence : rbjester
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    nice password dipshit : rbjester
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      Wtf.. gotta change shit now thanks : rbjester
      • LOL : Sapiens
      • Lol! : shurcool
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  God, Love and Sex actually G0d L0v3 aNd 53X would make a pretty strong password : flagg209
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    Someone didn't bother reading my carefully prepared memo on commonly-used passwords. : Fenring42
    • ^^^ FTW : flagg209
• Keypass : ShadowRam
• For most websites I have a set pattern on the keyboard I type out. For websites the starting point of th... : twifosp
• I have a base password with about 20 different variations. I often have to reset it on sites I frequent r... : anhero
• KeePass, and my master password was generated by me closing my eyes and banging on the keyboard for a bit... : Bean
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  i've been using a rotational password lately. i made a base string (with a number and a symbol), then i r... : biskits
  • I do something similar. When you say rotational, do you mean you change it periodically, or do you mean y... : edgewise
• Base password of 15 characters. Remaining characters/numbers defined by site (and common rule). Someone... : UselessHack
• Open a biology / physical science textbook choose 3 words at random. For passwords requiring arabic n... : DewFuel
• Another KeePass user here. : hussdelrio
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  So keepass or lastpass, what would you recommend : beedeegee
  • I'd prefer keepass because I can choose where to host the database file on. I mean, for the most part it... : TheStupidOne
• I use Roboform with Goodsync and Dropbox. : prime8
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  I just have 3 passwords of varying strength that I use all the time. My "I don't care" password, my "I k... : TheVietSpecial
  • I made various parts of passwords that I named A B C D E F, that I concatenate. I have a list, so shac... : barichnikov
  • This is pretty similar to what I do, though my "middle" option is more of a mashup of related passwords d... : DinK
• I generate them myself and remember them. I don't write passwords down. : ghost hacker
• KeePass : fuzzydamnit
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  I've been meaning to move to Keepass. Right now I have one password for disposable logins (mandatory web... : TheStupidOne
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    I tried using KeePass on Android with Dropbox, but it was honestly a pain in the ass. More trouble than ... : Arcanum
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      Yeah the lack of a decent cloud storage client on Android is what's really frustrating me. I tried setti... : TheStupidOne
      • Lastpass looks like it might be good. I haven't tried it yet, though. : Arcanum
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      really? I think the implementation is pretty good. About the only time you'll use it heavily is when y... : Arctic Fox
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        - Manual import and export of Keepass data on the PC, since the Android app doesn't support the current d... : Arcanum
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          Android app supports the current data file format nowadays. It is read-only, but I never create passwords... : Arctic Fox
          • "Beta" support, and I sometimes am changing passwords while not at my home desktop. I use this to store ... : Arcanum
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          You can set up Keepass to auto-export to the old format whenever it saves a file. : Clay
          • I need to be able to go in both directions. : Arcanum
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      So all your passwords are stored in a folder in your dropbox account? : beedeegee
      • I think I got 2 or 3 passwords into an encrypted file before I gave up. : Arcanum
• The best way is to use a phrase with capitals/letters/numbers, eg: The first place I lived at was 92 S... : biofrog
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  my secret shame is i use the same three passwords everywhere. some day i am going to get hacked and it w... : electroly
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    I'm up to 4! : Omning
    • I use two but only because one of them is my old "one" password and I can't be bothered to change it on e... : Hemtroll
  • i know 3 passwords: the one to my PC, the one to my keepass master pass, and the one to my dropbox accoun... : Clay
  • setup keepass on your desktop man, I was exactly the same because I thought it would be a pain, but it's ... : Arctic Fox
  • Same here. :( : deject
  • Use LastPass. It replaces the browser password manager, is really safe, and all you do is tell it you wan... : OmegaRed59
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  I took a lot of time to set up keepass, then didn't use it for a few months and forgot my master password... : ChibiJosh
  • lolol I can laugh at this because I did the exact same thing a couple of years ago! : Degenerate
• for some passwords i calculate a crc32 checksum off a simple standard pattern only I know. i never forget... : cpt_gloval
• scared of having some database out there that could be hacked? Try http://passwordmaker.org/ ...it looks ... : hmonster
• I use http://www.passpack.com works well for what I need. : atom519
• just my memory. i don't trust anything that keeps passwords for me. seem's like a big risk : harold.johnson
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  I use my brain. I generate passwords algorithmically using a simple cipher from the domain name that the ... : noxiousgg
  • I did this for a while too, for my "most secure" passwords. Now it's my medium-level security phrase, an... : Agrona
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    what happens if the domain changes? : Herman Toothrot
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      I don't think any website I frequent has ever changed its domain name, but if it did, it wouldn't be much... : noxiousgg
      • Also, I could just update the password. : noxiousgg
• 1Password + Dropbox for all my windows/osx/iPhone/iPad, donno about android. It's awesome. : Hiro
• One time in college a friend of mine wanted to go party for the weekend at his home town of DeQuincy LA s... : lee majors
• I write them down in a book : ultramega
• KeePass + DropBox. Free and beautiful. : Agrona
• KeePass with randomly generated passwords and this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0018E72TY/ref=oss_... : freak!
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  I just use my dogs name for everything : ninjase
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    password's such a cute guy : Deathlove
    • http://www.shackpics.com/files/iPhoneUpload_5s5bgc9tve53c6ujlwf3.jpg : ninjase
• I use 3 or 4 different words or number sequences and then mix and match and change capitalization. Also ... : Crimsonbeak
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  The ability to think in english but write in l33t!)!5p34k is very handy when it comes to password generat... : Toraz Chryx
  • Yep. : shurcool
• 1Password + Dropbox : one baby to another
• 1password : j0nchan
• I have 4 password that are modified and rotated between different usernames. Worst method ever : SAS_Ale

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  imagine if your super serious government national security day job trying to sift through the chaff of 4c... : dirge23
  • +was : dirge23
  • In a way... it's almost like a built in self-defense. A person who does that every day would either go i... : Gwyndion
  • this was my immediate thought, too. : Merconium
• I have no idea but I don't know if these attacks further the cause or hinder it. : Volatus32x
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  Like logging information about 4chan users? If so sure, the FBI is on there all the time. : HL3dsx
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    Unless they have access to the servers they can't link a specific IP address to a specific post. : MagicWishMonkey
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      Although I guess it would be possible to put a sniffer up between the ISP 4chan uses and the outside inte... : MagicWishMonkey
      • Yeah, they go after specific targets though mainly baiting pedo's and the like. I think they have bigger... : HL3dsx
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  The only thing I know about 4chan is when I click the links they are always expired. : Slowtreme
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    all i know is if you ever feel weird about your sexual proclivities, go look at /d/ and you will feel nor... : dirge23
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      What is that, or do I not want to know : dognose
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        i don't think /d/ is right for somebody of your delicate sensibilites, dognose. it's "hentai/alternative... : dirge23
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          Ah OK thanks. Seen one tentacle, ya seen em all. : dognose
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            it's not even really about that. it's all the stuff that the regulars on the 4chan hentai board found too... : dirge23
            • That's just a scary idea. : Conan
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              After viewing just a few posts, you will feel disgust, sadness and a deep sense of normalcy. : morsxcessum
              • or be converted and assimilated. : uebersoldat
            • Wow.. yeah... this is a terrifying thought. I hadn't thought of it that way. : Gwyndion
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        Dragons fucking cars. : ChibiJosh
        • poor cars : yAak
        • Lucky cars : Haku-Jin
        • Lucky dragons. : Ride-My-Rocket
        • poor dragons. : abrasion
        • Poor dragcars. : TheNiXXeD
        • Lucky fucking. : shurcool
        • Fucking dragons : zombie man
        • Lucky catalytic converters. : Merconium
      • Come on are you a mod here or not ? Seeing the depths of human depravity should be a daily routine by... : MrLobo
      • I wish I didn't know. : jeffmoeller
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      /d/ is my favorite board :( : Sapiens
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        i read it all the time : dirge23
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          they need a new board for all the futa, it's hard to find anything else in there these days : Sapiens
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            yeah, maybe. but if you take out all the futa there isn't much left : dirge23
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              what the hell is futa?? : ass-street
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                go ask your mother. she also won't know, so ask her to google it for you. : dirge23
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                  i cannot google such things at my place of work. : ass-street
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                    futa = futanari = chicks with dicks, but they also have vaginas. : ArcKnight
                    • But still google it, ass-street. : Dschinghis Khan
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                      Er, what? This doesn't...work. : Volatus32x
                      • Sure it does. Replace clit with dick, no balls (although the balls vs no balls things is hotly contested!... : Ebu
        • i read it for the articles : CyCo_PL
• all i know is if they keep doing big noisy things like this, the cops are going to get involved and the f... : crypt420
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  I think the "best practice" when it comes to government-infiltration is to have their own agents "join" t : Wikus Van De Merwe
  • Fucking hell, now I understand where Tea Party came from. Sneaky Democrats. SNEAKY! : yoonix
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    If you think it was the government that made PETA so extreme as to be irrelevant, you know nothing about ... : Herman Toothrot
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      Yeah PETA has probably always been wacky, but I wouldn't be that surprised if it was "infiltrated" by mea : Wikus Van De Merwe
      • What I'm saying is they didn't need any conspiracy to push them over the edge, read about their founder. ... : Herman Toothrot
  • 4chan isn't radical enough? : Ride-My-Rocket
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  i've wondered this myself. bringing down major commerce sites like amazon and credit card sites had to ge... : [fry]
  • Isn't Anonymous just loosely based around 4chan nowadays ? Besides there is always 6chan that will be ... : MrLobo
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    Moot has been dealing with this for years. An image calling splinters to a cause really isn't nuke worthy... : anhero
    • RULE #1!!!! Anonymous has their own boards they use + irc. : LoioshDwaggie
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  Anyone making a call to arms is proxied. The site has been monitored for at least four years. The real ac... : anhero
  • And that greek did nothing but make a jpg, but, depending on the local arm of the court may get him in tr... : anhero
• I can think of no better way to monitor a board like that than to be a community member or admin. : get_navi
• I am guessing that the Justice Department is going to request the logs from 4chan like it has in the past... : Crimsonbeak
• 4chan doesn't have accounts. if you're some kind of idiot you can use tripcodes but then you'll be perma... : electroly
• Any super secret group of government hackers would turn sides as soon as it matters. They are there just ... : Darthbrooks
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  The recent events have directed a ton of attention to 4chan and those running LOIC specifically, not just... : whodares
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    I'm curious, what "critical infrastructure" did they DDOS? All I've heard about is the VISA/MasterCard t... : Herman Toothrot
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      do you have any idea how much money gets processed through those two credit cards? especially around chri... : Dravenport
      • what part of a slight delay and their website being down is "critical infrastructure"? : retardhumper
      • Their websites do not process anything to do with their cards except maybe people ordering new cards. Tr... : Herman Toothrot
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        my mc hasn't been affected. i think you're overblowing their effect here. : biskits
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          he's inventing an effect, there was no effect on transactions at all : Herman Toothrot
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            well there IS an effect, and you can be sure visa and mastercard are quantifying it for later litigation : Downforce
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              The effect you invented was one about transactions processed through the VISA and MasterCard credit cards... : Herman Toothrot
              • I'm sorry, it wasn't you who invented the effect. I misread your username. Still, apart from that, what... : Herman Toothrot
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                True story: Dravenport ≠ Downforce : boring gegtik
                • i know :( at least i caught it shortly after posting : Herman Toothrot
        • They knocked out the verified by visa portal for a while, so that was down. No idea if that being down wo... : Beady
      • VISA/Mastercard transactions aren't processed through their websites, I seriously doubt that information ... : MagicWishMonkey
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      Banks are by definition critical infrastructure. Even the websites. : whodares
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        uh, no. the websites, which do not contribute to the banks' critical operations, are not critical infrast... : biskits
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          uhhhhh Yes, if you start attacking a bank's website, you will gain attention from the authorities. W... : whodares
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            your logic makes no sense. gaining attention from authorities has no effect on the definition of a bank's... : biskits
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              While their websites perhaps should not necessarily be labeled "critical infrastructure," it's unfortunat... : skizl
              • they matter to me (._.) : biskits
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              No, you just don't understand what I'm typing. I'm not talking about what the bank regards as its cr... : whodares
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                "Critical infrastructure are the assets, systems, and networks, whether physical or virtual, so vital to ... : Herman Toothrot
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                  I'll let the feds know your opinion Herman! : whodares
                  • You do that. : Herman Toothrot
                • pwnt : biskits
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            uhhhhhhhh : RikiTiki2
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              ummmmm : CrustaR
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                check this out: (_)_)///////////D~~ : ass-street
                • that's your answer to everything : jimmy_legs
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          The front end of any major corporation is critical and to think otherwise is delusional. : Merconium
          • you're late to the party: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24759733 : biskits
  • This. Doing dumb things attracts attention. : Visceral Monkey
  • one kid took the fall already in dutchland http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/netherlands/8... : thebigbeefsandwich
• what goes around comes around. remember 4chan's servers and hosting and payment arrangements? yeah those... : Downforce
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  why would they need to hack 4chan? Carnivore has backbone and ISP access. : crazywigga
  • Holla for carnivore! : DialDforDan
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  2 facts I'm sure are true 1. There is a US government organization that has hacked into every computer s... : baron calamity
  • lol : MagicWishMonkey
  • The sad part is you are pretty much right on the money. : dysfunctional
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    that's a bit dramatic don't ya think : [fry]
    • I hope so, and if not, I really hope #2 is correct as well. : MagicWishMonkey
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    Everybody say hi to the NSA! Hi NSA! : Arcanum
    • oh look! Flowers By Irene !!!! been parked out there a while, must be popular! : Downforce
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    I hope #1 is true. Or at least that our Hackforce 5 team is better than anyone else's. : edgewise
    • I hope #1 is true for at least three opposing superpowers so everyone knows how to stop everyone else. : Hemtroll
    • is that like a counterpart to fuckforce 5? : whodares
• Does any of this shit matter? Oh no people have access to my forum and emails....teh horror. People have ... : avatar_58

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  no way, the sci-fi makes it. it's supposed to be cryptic, though, and the stuff in the glyph puzzles part : dirge23
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    Hey dirge, are you still playing Wanted? Play Manhunt w/ me instead :( : HamChowder
    • i play it all. i have been roped back into borderlands though so my gaming time is divided. i'm usually o... : dirge23
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    What exactly are the glyphs and why am I looking for them? I think I must have missed that bit. : marmite
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      they are hidden information left in the animus by Subject 16 : dirge23
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        Should I know who that is yet? I seriously think I must have been unconscious at the start of the game lo... : marmite
        • You find out some info about him in AC1. In e-mails as well as the ending. : HamChowder
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          no, not really. it's not even that important. i'll give you some plot summary: in AC1, Abstergo Indust : dirge23
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            Ah thanks, I really appreciate that. : marmite
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              incidentally, you can totally skip the glyphs (or do them after the end of the game), they're just gravy ... : dirge23
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                i kinda liked the insinuations about how many world leaders through time held apples. including everyone : dantastic
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                  yeah, i love the whole secret history aspect. : dirge23
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                    AC3 set during WWII could be wtfawesome. : dirge23
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                      I'm having a hard time imagining this for some reason. Maybe bcs I'm so used to WWII = FPS. Would the... : pgharavi
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                        don't think the front. think Vichy France, or Berlin in 1942. : dirge23
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                          Ah, ok. That works better. Anyway, is the rumor-consensus that ACIII will be set in France? : pgharavi
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                            i don't think there's any clear indication yet : dirge23
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                              there is this, suggesting Egypt: http://www.gamespot.com/news/6264514.html (check out the picture) : dirge23
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                                i guess one way to go would be to set it in a location and have Desmond exploring it inside the Animus an : dirge23
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                                  I know that one of the things you and I both really enjoyed in AC2 & ASSBRO was the music. I think hav... : pgharavi
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                                    yeah, i bought the soundtracks to these last week. i also went and got Jesper Kyd's sountrack to Hitman: ... : dirge23
                                    • 1up had a cool 2 page feature on him about a week ago. You should check it out. : pgharavi
                        • why don't you just play saboteur then. they're not going to make a game that is basically saboteur : dantastic
                    • The AC:B guide hints strongly at the next game being set during the French Revolution. : speon
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                  yeah totally man. also the artwork mini games were pretty cool :D : Downforce
                  • i remember that they got fiendishly hard towards the end. in ASSBRO they aren't so bad. : dirge23
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            i thought this was explained quite well at the beginning of AC2 : dantastic
            • i played AC2 so long ago i can't really remember. i hope it goes on steam sale soon so i can replay it on... : dirge23
• just play it. : mwasher
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  Did you play the prior ones? If not, it kinda makes sense that you don't know what's going on. : Conan
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    No I really hated the first and didn't get far at all. : marmite
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      Then it really seems like it's not the games fault that things don't make sense. Go watch a video of the ... : Conan
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        Well it's not really hampering my enjoyment at all. I was just curious. : marmite
        • Still, it's worth it. Even if the game was lacking, the plot of #1 was decent and AC2 is just an all arou... : Conan
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    Which makes me appreciate what Insomniac did with Ratchet and Clank crack in time: Masking an install scr... : Entity
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      they added one for ASSBRO. there's a quick recap of the previous games. : dirge23
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        plus the whole prior memories thing is extra bonus recap. family, woman, etc. great stuff. : Downforce
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          yeah the Cristina missions were cool, with the throwback to 17 year old Ezio. it's pretty great how the g... : dirge23
          • That mission storyline was so sad. :'( : HamChowder
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  I was in the same boat. I'm hovering about the last third, story isn't making a lot of sense, but thats n... : scottythejock
  • well you should know that the story does make sense if you played the first one and actually follow the s... : dantastic
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  One other thing, the pickpockets? I spot them all the time and chase them down. If I don't chase them, do... : marmite
  • i don't think so. maybe some tiny amount. : dirge23
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  The real-world story is my favourite part of the game. ;D : shurcool
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    have you played ASSBRO yet? : dirge23
    • No, I've only played and beat AC1. I am waiting for some discounts (and more free time) before picking up... : shurcool
• I need to finish this game. : X-GOUKI
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  Most of it ends up making some measure of sense, for better or for worse. I agree that it would be a bett... : Ely
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    no way. i love the conspiracy stuff. yes, it's a silly story, but it's a better silly story than you get ... : dirge23
    • Agreed. The story is admittedly strange and off-beat, but it's also a damn sight more creative and epica... : Arcanum
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      I'm not necessarily against wacky conspiracy storylines, I loved Deus Ex, but what has been shown in AC1 ... : Ely
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        it's not at all superfluous. Altair's story without the Animus is incredibly generic. : dirge23
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          Well, OK. I think that is part of what bothers me about it, though; the writers rely on that device to ma : Ely
          • a superhuman hero in a video game is a given. video game history is littered with forgettable supermen. y... : dirge23
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    AC is way better than Dan Brown in that respect; they actually did some research, for one. Most of their ... : Conan
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      knowing the stuff we know by the end of ASSBRO, i would really like to see an Animus trip back to the rea : dirge23
      • ohhhhhh nice. don't tease me like that you minx. ASSMASTER 3 will be so fucking awesome. :D:D:D I w... : Downforce
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        I want to know what the hell Gandhi used a Piece of Eden for. : HamChowder
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          he swayed the hearts and minds of a nation of millions : dirge23
          • That is so lame. He could've TAKEN OVER THE WORLD. : HamChowder
        • Fleshlight : Mr. Goodwrench
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  I really disliked the sci-fi stuff in the first one, just seemed futile. But read up on the story on wiki : ramshot
  • this does happen through the end of AC2 and ASSBRO. however i think an AC game without the Animus in some... : dirge23
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  what truly infuriates me about the series is that they go to such painstaking lengths to try and turn wha... : Majuju
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    it would be a terrible blunder to try to present it as some kind of shocking plot twist. i like that they... : dirge23
    • Plus it lets them maintain some sort of continuity between the games while radically altering the setting... : Haxim
  • I don't think it's possible for me to disagree with this opinion more. : Conan
• Hey guys just started watching aliens and this scifi shit is stupid who is this woman and why is she in s... : gmd

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• tigerdirect.ca has EVGA 1GB 460 for $150. : SlingBlaze
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  hell yes but I would just wait for Sandybridge! : pancake humper
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    I don't follow computer stuff anymore....whats that? : SlingBlaze
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      Replacement for the 1156 i7's coming Jan 5th. Much better/faster. : sanchez
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        Is it really going to be that much faster? I don't recall anything saying it that clearly. : Alco23
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          Yes, I'll be in the opposite safe room before you even load. : sanchez
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            I re-read that anandtech article you linked below and I still can't see where it'll actually be that much... : Alco23
            • the biggest benefits are that it's near the top end of the "mid tier" i5/i7 CPUs and near their top end t... : jimmy_legs
        • http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-2600K+%40+3.40GHz : ant_hillbilly
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      Intel's new bombass chips. They are awesome. : pancake humper
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        Price? : SlingBlaze
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          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Bridge_(microarchitecture)#32_nm_Variants Will need new mobo as wel... : sanchez
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            I need a new mobo now too. Any mobo + i7 combo deals? : SlingBlaze
            • Probably will be once it's launched. : sanchez
  • monsieur why is it that people are refusing to wait? : CrustaR
  • Every time I hear that name it sounds vaguely sexual... but I don't know exactly why. : Gwyndion
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  I'm in your shoes, im going ahead with i7 950 right now - dont care enough to wait for sandy bridge - Id... : GBeer11
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    Asking my friend he said its gpu + cpu on one chip. But the CPU is really shitty? : SlingBlaze
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      Sandy Bridge does integrate Intel HD Graphics into the CPU and it is slow (GPU that is, not CPU). The mot... : sanchez
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        i wonder if the integrated GPU will hamper overclocking? : Shadowdane
        • No, intel have done other things that WILL hamper overclocking, unless the mainboard manufacturers have b... : Toraz Chryx
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      that's been like that, afaik and i know you mean "but the GPU is really shitty" Yes that is basically the... : GBeer11
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        o i see. So waiting for one of these new ones seems to have no/very little benefit? : SlingBlaze
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          No, it will. Significant speed increases for the CPU, supposedly. : jipey
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            this is the hear say ive heard - but thats it. Also it will drive the cost down on current i7's as the n... : GBeer11
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              Wouldn't they stop production of the last gen i7s? : CrustaR
              • no because these new i7s play different roles. I mean sure eventually they will stop making them but not ... : GBeer11
        • The CPU itself is faster than the Lynnfield i7's that it replaces. : Toraz Chryx
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  Good Sandy Bridge article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/3922/intels-sandy-bridge-architecture-exposed : sanchez
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    ^^^ here we go, man i love AT : GBeer11
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      PERFECT info graphic to show where these new chips will fit into the road map http://images.anandtech.com... : GBeer11
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        I want the extreme category now :( : sanchez
        • the last 2 pages of that article were really interesting, looks like the 2500K will be the most popular c... : GBeer11
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          I anticipate my overclocked-to-3.2GHz i7-920 to last me through the end of next year. : Goncyn
          • only 3.2Ghz? pfft man, that's barely even making it work for it. : Toraz Chryx
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  "Final words" From the benchmarking sandy bridge article at AT - " Sandy Bridge seems to offer a 10% incr... : GBeer11
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    I like the sounds of these improvements but since I won't be using the integrated graphics at all seems l... : SlingBlaze
    • Well, that paranoia isn't justified, it's extremely rare for _PART_ of an IC to fail in that manner... ... : Toraz Chryx
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  Another Question. Dual Channel vs Triple Channel Memory. Is one better than the other? Why? Don't M... : SlingBlaze
  • The i7 boards that require triple-channel will have the appropriate multiple of slots. : jipey
  • Only the 1366 i7's support triple channel and they usually come with 6 slots. 1156 and 1155 (sandy bridge... : sanchez
• For games, i5 over i7 always in terms of value. : Milleh

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  I am not looking forward to 2.0 but I played a ton yesterday. : fletch_
  • And I had a good time. : fletch_
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    Why are you not looking forward to 2.0? : Ecks
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      They are killing EM, i have 200+ games logged all of them EM. Casual mode is going to be an entirely diff... : fletch_
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        I think you have casual mode mechanics all wrong. just adapt man....EM is just one variant of style but ... : kainen1
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          Well there are no established mechanics now, that's just how I see it playing out. I think people are jus... : fletch_
          • and more ganking is a bad thing to you? that is super exciting and beats docile farming lanes levels 1-8 : kainen1
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        Wait they are completely getting rid of EM? Fuck! : D45hiz
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          owned. cmon shiz come play normal mode with me : kainen1
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            You are way too pro for me. I'd just get rolled in normal this may be the last time I play HoN which suc... : D45hiz
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              why not just play casual, it's the same mentality as EM just sounds more balanced and dynamic? I hear ... : kainen1
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                EM is a travesty. It breaks the normal progression of the game. Notice I didn't say speed up. I said b... : conandan
                • This is my main problem with it as well. It's not balanced. At all. It's sped up, but that completely ... : Ecks
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                I can't really explain why I like it and will admit its totally broken. Maybe its just I have gotten use... : D45hiz
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                  hahaha yeah of course you can. : kainen1
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                    In my experience you can call everyone on your team a noob even without any items/kills/assists/levels an... : SockMonkeh
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                      This is, unfortunately, quite true. BTW, is there a way to silence someone? I had a guy that was ridi : Ecks
                      • Click the little quote box that turns green. When it turns red they are muted. Make sure you yell over ... : D45hiz
                • yeah i just liked the faster game progression, even though that doesn't necessarily translate to faster g... : fletch_
      • They're linking the armor of the towers with how many players are alive on that team. If you successfull... : Ecks
      • EM is trash and you're a bad person for playing it : JINKY
      • if anything, CM is what EM should have been. as it stands, EM is just an accelerated ricing mode where i... : R@zzle
• 2.0 hits tonight and it should be a good time : kainen1
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  We need to get the crew together tonight so we can get some coins! xy, bonger, lakren, faluzure, ecks? yo... : boomstickah
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    I think u gotta win to get goblin coins, sorry bro. : bongturbo
    • but yes I will be on for late games tonight if the server doesn't blow up. : bongturbo
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      Your wrong actually : boomstickah
      • you get anywhere from 150%-350% more coins if you win. : DrFlammable
  • Ya, I'll be on. I'm not climbing tonight like I normally do since I'm still getting over this damn cold,... : Ecks
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    dont expect to be able to buy anything for at least a week. : DrFlammable
    • DUMB : bongturbo
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  "I've noticed that if I concentrate on farming in games (with the occasional ganking), I do much better t... : Jackass1233
  • the problem with pushing lanes is it takes a) takes dedication and follow-up. You can't just take out tow : kainen1
  • I should specify that almost as soon as I can afford it, I have a TP scroll on me and will teleport to so... : Ecks
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  In this subthread we talk about all the things people do in pubs that annoy the shit out of us. I'll sta... : Ecks
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    I've gotten used to playing only support so I get both very often but it sucks when I don't the team rare... : boomstickah
    • I used to play pure support but have been branching out to play gankers/initiators with the occasional ca... : Ecks
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    Yeah, even worse than not getting the chicken are support heroes who won't buy wards. Buy wards Shitheads... : Lexicon_Leidun
    • I'm always amazed at watching shoutcasts of pro players because the support heroes have no items except w : Ecks
  • Leave. : SockMonkeh
• Answer: Nope. : wytefang

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  This conversation kills me. Not the way you're thinking by the way, I think you understand it just fine, ... : haiku
  • But there can be only one!! : Makenxero
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  I agree. The thing I hate the most about guys like Steve Jobs saying "Flash is dead! Long live HTML5!... : MagicWishMonkey
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    to the cloud! : j0nchan
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      I heard it in a marketing/sales brochure so obviously it should be an integral part of our next release! ... : MagicWishMonkey
      • If it's a .NET shop there's a good chance it's "When is Microsoft coming out with HTML5 for .NET?" if ... : zakazi
    • you mean my chevy? : indosauros
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    did Steve Jobs really say that : Mansmells
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      Basically. Steve Jobs is not a technologist, he's an extraordinarily talented salesman. I wish people... : MagicWishMonkey
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        Not sure why you added that second line in there. I was just curious since you used quotes. I haven't pai... : Mansmells
        • I thought you were being facetious, I don't know his exact wording but that's basically what he said (he ... : MagicWishMonkey
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        Reminds me of that scientist/scientist advocate comic from the other day. Jobs is a technology advoc... : trove
        • Yea, and I don't doubt that his stated opinion will always line up with what makes the most financial sen... : MagicWishMonkey
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    Flash is a pig on my i7 hardware, the only thing randomly liable to max out my CPU usage. I don't think i... : Serpico74
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      I've never developed a Flash app that used a unusually high % of CPU, and I've built dozens. 99% of the t... : MagicWishMonkey
      • Sorry that first sentence was poorly worded, I had someone yammering in my ear while I was trying to writ... : MagicWishMonkey
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        Unfortunately it isn't consistent behavior. When it decides to pin all my cores at maximum or crash a tab... : Serpico74
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          And in terms of aesthetics, a completely different argument, I really really dislike the use of Flash for... : Serpico74
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            I agree with you with regards to using Flash for navigation elements, it's always annoying when people as... : MagicWishMonkey
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              I'd say a lot of people dislike Flash because of how it is implemented and where it is used (I know that'... : BouillonCubes
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                I agree, and HTML5 is not going to magically turn crappy designers into good designers. : MagicWishMonkey
                • Agreed, it's just naive to think so. : Nitrium
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                  I think it could have the effect of getting rid of Flash in a lot of places where it doesn't need to be (... : BouillonCubes
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                    The only justifiable uses I really see for Flash are applications (games, things like Speedtest), and pro... : Serpico74
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                      At this point I think it's impossible to argue against the fact that (love him or hate him) Jobs and Appl... : BouillonCubes
                      • On more of a side note, I also think this trend may have been what ultimately drove Microsoft to put Silv... : BouillonCubes
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                Thankfully AJAX/CSS murdered most of the horrible Flash navigation out there. People seem to forget how g... : Serpico74
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                  AJAX makes for pretty shitty website navigation as well. When people click a link they expect a new page ... : MagicWishMonkey
                  • He probably means CSS more than AJAX in terms of some random top nav for a site. For something more co... : BouillonCubes
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            If there's unnecessary visual flair, the designer is the culprit, not Flash. : Nitrium
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              Of course, but Flash gives people an easier opportunity to do that. Make it less convenient to do stupid ... : Serpico74
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                And in any case, using Flash for navigation is inexcusable. Really, what positive reason is there to use ... : Serpico74
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                  I agree with you on this last post - I just don't agree that bad design is the tool's fault. Bad design i... : Nitrium
                  • It goes hand-in-hand. It is certainly partly the tool's fault for making it easier for people to put thei... : Serpico74
              • Yea, a designer (not a developer) can make a pointlessly interactive ad banner that makes noise and submi... : BouillonCubes
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      Unfortunately, it's possible (and not all that difficult) to write really horrible Flash that can complet... : ChibiJosh
      • People are going to do the same sort of thing with HTML5 : MagicWishMonkey
  • First, Steve is a salesman and his reasons for opposing Flash are obvious. Second, I did client-drive... : BouillonCubes
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  Everything you say is true, but your conclusion seems to be "This doesn't work perfectly right now, so it... : CtrlFrk
  • No... I very much think it will have it's place in time and even displace some things which are currently... : ChibiJosh
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  I feel your pain, a while back I got asked to build a canvas version of one of our flash widgets and it w... : Baba Ghanoush
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    I can't imagine how frustrating it must be to organize large numbers of JavaScript files. I can whip ... : MagicWishMonkey
    • It's surprisingly elegant. But you're right it's also surprisingly rare. There's so much bad JS out there... : zakazi
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      someone has to make a GUI that manages a JS-focused application, but yeah it's still kind of crazy. and ... : mikecyb
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        I solve it by having a caching php-file that checks for changes, and if none serves a single compressed a... : YerMothah
        • same here. Some of the asset management tools out there are just dead simple and bad ass. (or in the case... : zakazi
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        I really wish JS had full namespace support. The ability to logically separate my class files and import ... : MagicWishMonkey
        • I believe you can use a lot of the CommonJS ideas in browsers. Modules may help. It's not quite full name... : zakazi
      • You'll all need to have a look at RequireJS requirejs.org : Rodeoclash
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      It sounds as though modules are the way to go. One module per file. //Put all this in it : CtrlFrk
      • Yup, this is the way I do it. It's nice. : zakazi
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        Interesting, is this the type of stuff that dude covers in JavaScript - The Good Parts ? : MagicWishMonkey
        • It is. Maybe not this specific style of Module but it is the sort of patterns and ideas that are covered ... : zakazi
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        yup. i have an ant build script that concats all the *.js files together, runs jsmin, then gzip for fast... : wvuong
        • I'm trying to write my code such that it can be compiled with closure on advanced. It's not easy, but it ... : CtrlFrk
    • You could take a look at a JS framework line JMVC. That should help you with managing larger projects:htt... : ysbreker
• it's kind of funny the main reason for the switch seems to be not wanting to depend on Adobe for 100% of ... : mikecyb
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  There are quite a few designers out there that say why punish the people with a better browsers by servin... : ysbreker
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    don't forget that HTML5 already works in every browser what makes you say that? it most certainly doe... : electroly
    • http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/html-css-techniques/how-to-make-all-browsers-render-html5-mark-up-corre... : Makenxero
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      IE6 most definitely does recognize the doctype. It's the shortest doctype to still trigger strict mode in : ysbreker
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        i'm trying to figure out how this adds up to "all browsers support HTML5". i'm not sure i'd consider "su... : electroly
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          IE6 supports plenty of HTML5 features. They are just not the features that are widely advertised. : ysbreker
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            ok so you were making a purely theoretical point, then? we're talking about replacing Flash with HTML5 a... : electroly
            • Yes, I was making a theoretical point I guess. You have to use hacks to let IE6 in on all the fun. But is... : ysbreker
          • See http://caniuse.com/ for more info on what browser supports which feature. : ysbreker
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          also, no it doesn't. it triggers "almost standards" mode in IE6 : electroly
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            Well does anything full support everything "HTML5" or is HTML5, at this point anyway, not shorthand for s... : BouillonCubes
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              IE6 supports none of the HTML5 stuff : electroly
              • when people say HTML5 they usually mean <canvas>, <video>, and <audio> even though the standard includes ... : electroly
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                Okay but work-arounds do exist that don't involve using flash (or require that the client download anythi... : BouillonCubes
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                  no, workarounds work for the extremely trivial portions of the HTML5 standard. basically, tags which do ... : electroly
                  • I don't consider those trivial but you're right, there's no work around for those three things that you m... : BouillonCubes
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                Not technically correct. IE6 supports basic HTML5 documents - The HTML5 doctype - The new chars... : action roommate
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                  None of that shit really matters though. That's not what people mean when they talk about how HTML5 is a ... : MagicWishMonkey
                  • Clearly not, I was just being pedantic and jumping on a (rare) opportunity to call electroly out ;) : action roommate
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                    That argument is plain stupid and both sides should be shot for continuing to have it. The internet isn'... : BouillonCubes
                    • And IE6 is dying pretty quickly so those arguments won't hold much water for much longer. : BouillonCubes
        • You're right. Support is not the right word maybe. But don't let this stop you trying out the new stuff. ... : ysbreker
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    'HTML5 already works in every browser except for the actual new features that have made people talk about... : derelict515
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      Canvas works in every browser except IE6/7/8 and there are ways around that too. But as the OP said there... : ysbreker
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        haha do you really not see how much of a nightmare all of this is when you could just make the same thing... : mikecyb
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          Tell me that next time you want key events from flash to bubble up into the DOM (or some other problem re... : action roommate
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            What? Triggering JS from Flash is trivial. : MagicWishMonkey
            • You read what I typed, but didn't hear what I said. : action roommate
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            Overlaying HTML elements over your flash content for instance. : ysbreker
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              wmode="transparent" : BlackCat9
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                That doesn't place the flash element behind the HTML. : ysbreker
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                  Yes it does, unless I'm not understanding you correctly. If you have an HTML-based drop-down menu or pop-... : BlackCat9
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                    Gonna be pedantic again here on you: wmode="transparent" is not what's required for flash to obey z-index : action roommate
                    • Ah, ok. When I learned that, whatever I had found said to use transparent, so I stuck with that. Why is o... : BlackCat9
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            For the time being, I'd rather deal with external interface calls from Flash to the page javascript rathe... : bcyde
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              And that's fine, but anybody who makes excuses on behalf of Flash (i.e., "it's trivial to trigger JS from... : action roommate
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                what is 'the point'? my only thing was if you are making a complicated Flash app it's a bit easier on de... : mikecyb
                • exactly! : ysbreker
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                  Here's "the point" Flash as a tech on the web was born out necessity. The desire existed to have animati... : action roommate
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                    Why do you think the process won't repeat itself while we wait years for HTML6? Other common languages by... : derelict515
                    • Why are you putting words in my mouth? I never said anything about the process not repeating itself. : action roommate
        • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0T13iiAzLM&feature=player_embedded : ysbreker
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          Yes, let's just get rid of everything and do 100% of everything in Flash from now on,. : BouillonCubes
          • that's exactly what I said thanks for participating!!! : mikecyb
• Flash will always have it's domain but the two don't need to compete all the time every time and Flash is... : BouillonCubes
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  ChibiJosh, what the fuck is this. Why are you coming up in here all indignant about Flash vs HTML5 n : action roommate
  • Indeed. : ramshot
  • Fun fact: CSS2.1 The spec you're already using today without thinking about it is still a working draft! : ysbreker
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    action roommate, I am just venting this right now because I'm trying to learn HTML 5 right now because my... : ChibiJosh
    • http://www.html5rocks.com/ Let us never speak of this ever again. : shirif
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  Guess what? It's the same with HTML 4. That's the difference between a spec that each company writes thei... : BlackCat9
  • I don't think they're discovering it or overly surprised or saying it's impossible to do. The fact that e... : derelict515

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  Drive out to Katy so we can play, i've been wanting to start. : gornl1
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    Katy? : uebersoldat
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      Crap d00d I'm in Lubbock :( : uebersoldat
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        :( have an iPhone? we can totally facetime and play... haha : gornl1
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          Droid man here :D : uebersoldat
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            I stopped by pretty much the only tabletop/D&D get together here in town. It was a harrowing experience a... : uebersoldat
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              If you're looking for a fellow Lubbockite to D&D with (and challenge to a Taco Villa contest) you're on! : chiisu81
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                They come out of the woodwork I say! Could the first Lubbock Shackmeet be D&D oriented? O_O Paging Dra... : uebersoldat
                • Also these guys here I pity, because they have not had the Villa....sad sad : uebersoldat
  • wow, I went to Taylor HS, graduated in 01 : phokz
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  I'm not sure I understand, but 4e is very easy to grasp, especially the new Essentials line of 4e. It's ... : Wadmaasi
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    I hear it's made for the 'mmo generation'. I'm not sure I like this... : uebersoldat
    • The combat mechanics are mathematically balanced (well...theoretically) and you can't just break out the : Wadmaasi
    • It seems to be a lot more combat focused for sure but you can still do all the role playing you want. I ... : melkore
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      PA discusses it here http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/8/23/ http://www.penny-arcade.com/2010/8/ : Schnapple
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        AWESOME thanks! : uebersoldat
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          Having trouble finding it on Targets website, a quick google shows that other people check their Target s... : uebersoldat
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            Hmm, it's in every Target around here (DFW). It's in the section with all the baseball cards and Twilight... : Schnapple
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              heading to Tarsjey for lunch, I'll report back with my findings :D : uebersoldat
              • Nope, they don't have anything d&d :( : uebersoldat
    • I am a hardcore rule-crunching gamer, and I really love D&D 4E. You might want to just pick up a Player's... : Goncyn
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      Anyone who says that is a fucking retarded retarded of retardedness. The only reason people say that is b... : OverloadUT
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        i <3 you Overload. Hey, are you still interested in doing that development project someday? I still wa... : MisterPhoton
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          Yes, my interest has not waned one big! Unfortunately the amount of free time I have has not increased. :... : OverloadUT
          • s/big/bit :( : OverloadUT
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            I don't really see those as viable devices for what you talked about doing in your blog. How would one ha... : MisterPhoton
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              Oh yeah I should totally update you on my current vision of the project and see what you think : OverloadUT
              • Short version: It's a networked tool where the players can roll their powers through it so they appear on... : OverloadUT
    • It's the same 4E rules, made easier to understand. You can still buy the hardback books. Some powers ha... : Xin Jing Client 1a
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    I decided to check out the Red Box, then move my characters over to Essentials, and remembered how terrib... : drhazard
    • This makes no sense; Red Box is Essentials. What exactly are you "transferring?" : OverloadUT
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  For 1 or more does it say on the box? Wtf? D&D is for 3+ minimum and ideally 4+ : Pandilex
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    It comes with a 'solo adventure' that plays similarly to a choose your own adventure book. It helps new p... : drhazard
    • There's also a card in the box with a code to download a second single-person adventure : MisterPhoton
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  D&D is a better game than AD&D if you are looking for a social experience and not a rule-book reading exp... : Zakko
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    the basic rules are very good and the basic world of Mystara was fabulously detailed with tons of content : retardhumper
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      My nerd is raging right now thinking about this. My wife is going to never have sex with me again...unles... : uebersoldat
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        With diamonds the size of d20's : melkore
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          bribery eh? You may be on to something there sir... : uebersoldat
          • I knew I should have rolled for higher charisma >:[ : uebersoldat
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        I sold D&D as a fun family game night type activity where the kids would learn some math and mythology. ... : lee majors
        • I can just imagine this with my kids when they get a bit older. "Hey guys, make sure you don't have an : Zakko
      • talk to OverloadUT ;) : MurrayTheSkull
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        My wife actually asked me if I wanted to start playing D&D because a couple we know plays and was startin... : MisterPhoton
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          You wife = awesome. : uebersoldat
          • Turns out a great class for someone who's not really fond of the idea of killing things is a Warlord. She... : MisterPhoton
        • That would be awesome. : Lexicon_Leidun
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    Are you actually trying to start an edition war between first edition and second edition? They haven't... : OverloadUT
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      I'm not trying to start anything. I'm simply giving my opinion that the game went from role-playing to r... : Zakko
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        Well okay but this is a discussion about Fourth Edition D&D and you haven't played since Second Edition s... : OverloadUT
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          Well perhaps it's me that's confused. They're putting 4th edition in the basic D&D box from the late 70s... : Zakko
          • Oh, yeah now I see why that would be confusing. The original 4e books didn't look like this; this is a ma... : OverloadUT
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  I think they need to update the look. I honestly thought that was a box from the 70s. : Fred Garvin
  • Retro is hip? : Topsiderover
  • They very specifically went for the retro look on the new Red Box, because all the current designers grew... : Wadmaasi
  • Thats the late 80s box, the 70s box is small and either white or brown and has the 3 brown cover books: h... : retardhumper
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    That's the point. Personally, I love that they're going for the retro look. They did something similar... : Schnapple
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      I was around when that look was in. I want it to come back as much as orange shag carpet. : Fred Garvin
      • It's really just the box and covers, though. The inside artwork and the Essentials books are all relative... : drhazard
• I'm asking for this for Christmas, from what they showed on Totally Rad show it sounds exactly like what ... : jeffmoeller
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  I bought this for my 9 year old son for Christmas. I am sure he is going to go crazy once he opens it. : K0LM
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    Just remember what happened to Pardeux! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazes_and_monsters : hatelull
    • I can only hope he will be that serious about it. : K0LM
• If you guys are interested in some old school D&D action, check out this list of old school "retro clones... : Delaric
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  Fourth edition (which is what you linked to, and it the latest) is without a doubt the better edition to : OverloadUT
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    Here's what a friend had to say (same guy you called an idiot, but I lol'd hard anyway at your post haha)... : uebersoldat
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      I fucking hate your friend. Here is my very long winded response to his ridiculous ignorance. His resp : OverloadUT
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        ^^ this is right. anyone who says otherwise isn't reading this text, is willfully ignorant and/or seeing ... : dahanese
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          dahanese?! Your g33k is showing! : uebersoldat
          • i don't actively play D&D but i did for years. we even had a couple shackers play regularly back in NYC -... : dahanese
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        Sounds like you know what you're talking about, also it sounds like you have had some pretty heated debat... : uebersoldat
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          I am very passionate about D&D; it's literally my favorite thing in the world. I would give up everything... : OverloadUT
          • haha awesome. Well, that guy moved off (he admitted he was just old and there's nothing at all wrong with... : uebersoldat
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        Can you come DM our group cause our DM is running the failboat on this shit. I am personally not a bi... : K0LM
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          Hm, I disagree with your observation. Wizards has even gone so far as to include excellent quality cardbo... : OverloadUT
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            • I like these ideas. I also think part of the problem our group is having is we have only been able to pla... : K0LM
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              Also I am going to say ^^ All DMs should read this Because it took me a while to write and I am a very... : OverloadUT
              • i totally skipped over it :( : sposh
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  It's a great little starter if you haven't played D&D for a long time and need a quick intro to 4th Ed ru... : Drewus
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• last thing i read was Flowers For Algernon, which is sci-fi and crushingly sad. : dirge23
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  Peter F Hamilton's Confederation- and Commonwealth series has really rekindled my interest in SF, but now... : OnkelBj
  • If you liked Commonwealth, go read House of Suns by Alastair Reynolds. It's a fantastic one-shot book. : LoioshDwaggie
• Not really sci-fi but currently reading this ... http://www.houghtonmifflinbooks.com/catalog/titledetail... : ghost hacker
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  Old Man's War trilogy by John Scalzi is a fun read. Reading his book Android's Dream right now. Gonna m... : jimmy_legs
  • I finished the first book in two days last week. As you said, it was pretty fun. I've since then moved on... : Greymatter42
• I loved it too. Really great book. : edgewise
• I really enjoyed that book : zakazi
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  I've started it twice... I really should just read it : vov1n
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    It's harder to get into than say Snow Crash or Zodiac. Not as complex as his later works, but could see ... : chiisu81
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      Man, I couldn't push Snow Crash down, I love that book : vov1n
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        Snow Crash is good but some of the stuff just makes me want to facepalm, like "Hiro Protagonist" : dirge23
        • it's sort of meant to be tongue-in-cheek like Robocop. that said I can sympathize entirely, I did the sam... : Majuju
    • I thought the beginning was the best part. The description of the society, the judge, Hackworth's tricker... : edgewise
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  reading that book made me wish I had a primer when I was young. so many things I hadn't learned! : bitchesbecrazy
  • Yeah I was jealous that such a thing didn't exist for my daughter : riptyde
• Anything by Alastair Reynolds if you like hard sci-fi space opera's is a good read If you looking for som... : ysbreker
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  Daemon and Freedom from Daniel Suarez : Simulacrum
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    The sequel to daemon is out? I must be off to my bookstore then. : ysbreker
    • Yeah it's been out for a while. : Simulacrum
• just read Eric Brown's Xenopath, it was good : Dravenport
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  Ian McDonald - River of Gods, or Brasyl is fucking amazing too. All his books are awesome : duffman03
  • I also just finished his latest, The Dervish House. I've loved all his books so far, they're all pretty ... : duffman03
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  Reading The Windup Girl on the plane. Pretty awesome concept so far. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
  • i just started this : e v i l
  • I really liked this book! I've been meaning to find some of Paolo Bacigalupi's short stories, and he's g... : duffman03
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  As OnkelBj said, Peter F. Hamilton's Commonwealth and Void series' are incredible works of sci-fi. Epic,... : Vantage
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    I just ordered the last book in the Void trilogy and I am SO EXCITED for its arrival. I haven't enjoyed ... : Vantage
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      For those who've read the two series... what are your favourite characters (be sure to use the spoiler ta : Vantage
      • Gore, Justine, Oscar, Edeard (and the other constables, I really liked all of the dream parts) I kind : valael
• Armor. http://www.amazon.com/Armor-science-fiction-John-Steakley/dp/0886773687/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid... : fugu124
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  China Mieville - Kraken is also pretty spectacular. His books are always pretty nuts. : duffman03
  • Yeah I did enjoy Perdido Street Station quite a bit. : Simulacrum
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  starship troopers is a mandatory sci-fi read. : miasma&!
  • starship troopers is a book on politics with 5 pages of sci-fi action. people always seem to forget this... : e v i l
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  Just keep reading Stephenson. The Baroque Cycle, while being set in the past, is kind of Sci-Fi ish in th : kikilupo
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    Cryptonomicon is a must-read if you like Stephenson : dirge23
    • I have that at the side of my bed currently. Got it a long time ago. I've read and loved Snow Crash but h... : rolecks
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      I loved Crytonomicon but I couldn't get into Anathem. : riptyde
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        yeah Anathem and the Baroque Cycle i would only recommend with reservations. they're both too long and th : dirge23
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          To be fair, the Baroque Cycle's version of "too long" dwarfs Anathem's. I really enjoy all Stephenson'... : maddy
          • i'll have to go read it again. i'd read The Baroque Cycle again but i'm just not willing to give up that ... : dirge23
        • There's no "maybe" about it. It's awesome if you stick with it. : Conan
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        Anathem is definitely a hard read. : kikilupo
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          i remember liking Anathem once i got into it, but Stephenson has the Stephen King problem where he loooov... : dirge23
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            Yep, Anathem was a great book with an absolutely abysmal ending. : ColoradoCNC
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              i don't remember it being abysmal, i just feel like his books are front-heavy, where at first everything ... : dirge23
              • this. but the person who lent me the book said that this was one where he was actually able to write a pr... : bitchesbecrazy
              • I agree, or at least I'm not always satisfied with his endings - not that things aren't wrapped up, they ... : Conan
        • I remember not knowing wtf was going on until at least halfway through the book. It comes together, but I... : shyguy74
      • yeah, the first 1/3 of the book is him illustrating in minute detail almost every facet of the compound. ... : bitchesbecrazy
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    The Baroque Cycle is kinda painfully slow, though. : Arcanum
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      at least it pays off. i remember a lot of awesome moments from these books, and the characters are solid. : dirge23
      • I think I got half-way through The Confusion before I got bored. : Arcanum
      • I stopped about a third of the way through system of the world after taking about 5 years to read the fir... : sparkly
  • I just started the Baroque Cycle but I only had the 2nd volume. Does the order of them matter or are the ... : bad_fish
  • Dudes! No one in this sub-thread has mentioned Snow Crash yet?! Wow. Yes... Diamond Age is awesome. I... : Grumbeld
• Deus Irae by Zelazny & Dick. Instantly shot up to my top 10 by these guys. : Borzoi
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  How's Hyperion by Dan Simmons. I read The Terror and liked it a lot. I am especially curious about Hyperi... : tinfoilhatter
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    AWESOME. Must-read. : fugu124
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      This. Read it right fucking now. : riptyde
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        I'm mid-sequel, The Fall of Hyperion, now (there are 4 novels in the Hyperion series). It's good, a litt... : rms
        • they're all below Hyperion in quality, but they're still all way better than average. : Borzoi
      • I'm gonna get this on Audible. thnx. : edgewise
      • Excellent, that is good news, since this book sounds awesome I am glad I won't be diappointed. : tinfoilhatter
  • I really like Dan's books. Though I couldn't get through Drood. I really don't know anything about Char... : tsuba
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  Peter Watts - Blindsight http://www.rifters.com/real/Blindsight.htm : Odoyle
  • I second this.... awesome book : vrocket
  • Actually read that and his Rifters series just before. Really really loved those all. : NexusOne
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  you might really like Rainbows End, by Vernor Vinge : Veegeezee
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    ^^^^great read. I could use more Vinge recommendations, since I've only read this and maybe one other so ... : Borzoi
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      the Zones of Thought books are fantastic, too, especially A Deepness in the Sky. i read that one like onc... : Veegeezee
      • ah yeah - Deepness in the Sky is the other one I read way back. The downside of inhaling a book is so oft... : Borzoi
  • I thought that was a bit weak but Fire Upon the Deep and Deepness in the Sky were fantastic. : Rodeoclash
• i like all these book threads lately. just finished and loved the name of the wind. picked up slaughter h... : Audhuml4
• My two favorites are The Moon is a Harsh Mistress and Ender's Game. Not a fan of any of the other books : Cottc Cid
• Read Rant by Chuck Palahniuk. You will not regret it. : Grumbeld

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  The kidney stone is working on porting the quake engine to a wristwatch. : pigvomit
  • As it passes, it opens a gate to another dimension of demons. And the lights go out. : TheNiXXeD
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  Does that mean he will have to pass it? : CrustaR
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    Yes. The ER will have pumped him full of pain killers and given him a prescription for some also. I fe... : sigpro
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      Were you like, "Gwaaahhhh!!!" when you were passing it? Was it like giving birth? Did you keep it as a ... : CrustaR
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        Luckily for me it was pretty damn small. Hurt like hell going from the kidney to the bladder which is wha... : sigpro
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          I would have framed that thing and mounted it on the wall like a trophy. : CrustaR
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            I would have bought a pellet gun and shot someone with it : manero
            • perhaps you could hit them in the bladder and regift it : wendigo
      • Passing it doesn't hurt too bad - the worst of it is when it's moving from your kidney to your bladder. ... : Crw22
  • Hopefully it's just 1-pass : zehh
  • When it's done. : Fred Garvin
  • they can also be removed via surgery - minimally invasive : e v i l
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  you piece of trash... my heart skipped a beat when I read that. Then I clicked the link >:| : SniperWolf22
  • Same here :( : ColoradoCNC
  • Same. : Gary the Llama
  • Same. Whadda dick. : heartsauce
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  ugh, i have kidney stone. i have learned to live with the pain. but yeah, fuck them. : g0nk
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    stones* : g0nk
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      You have not passed them yet?? : CrustaR
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        i've passed 2-3 in my lifetime so far. : g0nk
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          How many remain? : CrustaR
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            you keep making new ones! : multisync
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              NO!!! What causes them? How can you stop them? : CrustaR
              • https://health.google.com/health/ref/Kidney+stones : Arctic Fox
          • The memory remains : uglysad
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    agreed, i pass them every year or so, buck up pussies : multisync
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      Lol what that can't be normal : MoreVespeneGas
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        According to the link given above, it is. Sure does suck for those with them, they sound miserable. : Entity
        • Sounds like they need to drink more water : rms
    • Your urethra must have the consistency of a fine battle-honed leather cuirass. : reelbk
• i hope it passes. also i hope it wasnt his lifelong caffeine consumption with diet soda that caused it : spiderfill
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  there is no pain like the pain of a kidney stone... fucking hurts so bad you do think you are dying : flagg209
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    /agree'd. The last one I had, I bruised a knuckle and made my hand swell from punching random things to t... : g0nk
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      I don't know anything about this subject but can't you have an operation? : Snipergen
      • I don't need to - I only had one...cat scans showed no others waiting to pass... : flagg209
      • A guy here are work had a REALLY big one which somehow attached to the wall of his kidney or something li... : Gwyndion
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  I had my first kidney stone this year, it was as small as a piece of black pepper. Worst pain in my life.... : onji
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    What the...a black pepper? So it was like grain-sized? : CrustaR
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      yes, normal sized are about the size of a grain of sand. : g0nk
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        I was imagining a huge chunk of rock with all these pointy ends, I guess something kind of like this: ... : CrustaR
        • my stone was pretty big...about the size of 2 or 3 grains of pepper : flagg209
        • that *is* what they look like. mine was a little smaller than a pencil eraser. onji got lucky. : electroly
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    Oh FFS... here's mine http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=TheKidneyStone_kcr3zvq2dlo6d7q3h0y5.jpg N... : Werkin
    • Dear Jesus, Please don't give me kidney stones. : theylookwolfs
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      Were you taking a leak, and it just popped out? Like how does one pass one of those things? : CrustaR
      • when i passed mine it was a complete surprise. i wasn't expecting it. i was just taking a piss and then... : electroly
    • Opinion discounted due to Candianitis. : Rooster Cockburn
• pics! http://www.wecareindia.com/nephrology/kidney-stones-treatment.html : g0nk
• one of the women here had a kidney stone, she said it was worse then child birth. : stgdz
• I had one. Felt like someone was ripping out my insides with a rusty garden implement. : Fred Garvin
• I hate that fucking pound bang (#!) In the url when I use my phone. Fuck#! : anhero
• fucker : fuzzydamnit
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  A coworker passed a stone in the office bathroom stall. How vomit can launch 280 degrees, I do not know, ... : anhero
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    What? Vomit? What? : Volatus32x
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      Pain induced, I presume. He puked a lot and when the ambulance showed up, he was laying on the floor in f... : anhero
      • Wow... : Volatus32x
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      Yes, I vomited several times. It goes with it. : onji
      • :-\ : Volatus32x
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      i vomited from pain from my kidney stone. only time i've ever done that. kidney stones do NOT fuck arou... : electroly
      • Sorry, man : Volatus32x
    • I will fourth or fifth this confirmation. Kidney stone hurt so bad I threw up : goatboy
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  My last stone after being shattered with ESWL http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2166/dscf0537o.jpg ... : Not Given
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    what is ESWL? : fuzzydamnit
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      Iirc, e-sports world league. When I knew the name, the did all the Q3 world champs when the cpl fagged ou... : anhero
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        so he had a kidney stone shattered with an E-Sports World League? : fuzzydamnit
        • Ok. I read 'with' as 'at'. Hmmmm. Now I'm confused. : anhero
    • Extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy. You lie on a water-filled cushion, and the surgeon uses X-rays or ... : Not Given
  • Were you competing? : anhero
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    Did it still hurt? : roggor
    • Didn't feel it when it passed after being broken up. Urologist had me on some medication that dilates you... : Not Given
  • So sharp looking too :( : abrasion
  • oh christ : NastyJack
  • Holy shit that's huge. I thought mine was gigantic. : devi| dog
  • I'll never look at honey bunches of oats the same way again....:( : uebersoldat
  • Oh shit. Ow. : five_percent
  • D: : systatic
  • Looks like Michael Bay's asteroid from Armageddon. : pigvomit
• Thanks for the panic-inducing headline. : The Wilhelm Scream
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  I've never had one and don't know anyone who has - they sound fucking awful. What if it gets stuck on th... : abrasion
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    If it gets stuck moving between your kidney & bladder then they go up there and grab it with a tool and p... : Crw22
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      I heard drinking a lot of soda can cause it right? because I'm off the soda and on the water. Golly fuck... : abrasion
      • "kidney stone" is an umbrella term that covers many different types of stones, all caused by different re... : electroly
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    The hospital can break them up with sonic shit if it is too big. : anhero
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      They play Justin Bieber? : surround
      • They play 90's German techno at ultra high frequency. Only bats and 5 year olds can hear it. : ihya
  • that's why it hurt so bad. rip and tear : MamiyaOtaru
  • if it's that big, it won't make it that far. passing it out your penis is actually the least painful par... : electroly
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    Watch the Deadwood episode Requiem for a Gleet. : Haku-Jin
    • ow :( : sanchez
• fuck this thread : justwr!ght
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  Jesus.. you guys are scaring me.. I can't believe how many of you have had kidney stones. I didn't know ... : Gwyndion
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    Well, this being a gaming site and all, I'm sure lots of soda consumption has occurred in the past. Lots ... : GrimmyD
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      i was about to post that. we have people here that don't drink water because they have been conditioned t... : Hoax
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        Well, I guess that is slightly comforting because growing up soda was not allowed in our house. I only r... : Gwyndion
        • Same here. Growing up, I always wanted soda in the house but the parents wouldn't do it. All juice and mi... : theylookwolfs
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      also the shack is a meat eaters haven...that was my problem...too much meat every day for my entire life : flagg209
      • Not even a kidney stone will make me give up bloody red steaks!!! : CrustaR
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        the dietary contribution to kidney stones is often overstated. many types of stones have no dietary cause... : electroly
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          How do I keep them out of my kidney bladder and cock? : korruptedone
          • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24759985#itemanchor_24759985 : electroly
  • they're all dehydrated : Alpha Class Android
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    A couple of my friends got them in their early 20s. : TwiLyght
    • What happened? : CrustaR
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    I am also scared. Let's start a reassurance subthread where people who haven't had kidney stones post. ... : michae l
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      Drink water. Lots of it. Every day. Drink as much water as you can handle, every single day. You'll h... : electroly
      • I just got some water. I'm on it. ...I will have forgotten this in an hour. : michae l
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      plenty of water, limited red meats, beer (helps in low quantities. in high it dehydrates you and contrib... : EvilDolemite
      • Evil D, but red meat and beer are what I enjoy! : CrustaR
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        Oh shit BEER!? You lost me at BEER!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! I'm doooooomed! : Gwyndion
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          no, beer is actually beneficial, but only in low doses. Beer and Your Kidney Yes, it's true: Drinkin : EvilDolemite
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            That's fucking awesome! You just made my day. :) I don't drink soda, I very rarely eat red meat, I dr... : Gwyndion
            • yep. no one believes me when i tell them beer is really good for them! wine too! : EvilDolemite
    • I haven't and I have an awful diet. : abrasion
    • fuck. /goes to fill up the water bottle : halophoenix
    • No stones but this thread is making me hurt thinking about it. : Agrona
  • My grandmother just passed her first kidney stone at 81 years of age. I have them less often now that I d... : eldiablo01
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  No big deal. They'll blast it with ultrasound. Odds of dying roughly 1 in 1,345,332 : Sludgehead
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    It mus be one hell of a painful death. : CrustaR
    • Yeah, in that case the kidneys come out with the stone. >__< : DM7
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  Carmack is a God, Kidney stones can do nothing to him >:( : hanged_man
  • He may be thinking that himself with all the pain meds they'll have him on soon :p : uebersoldat
• I can't believe you did this to us....what were you thinking posting a bomb like that on the Shack? : uebersoldat
• Sweet Prince etc... : ashkie
• Having a kidney stone is the worst pain ever. : Clay
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  Kidney stone pain can be debilitating. I've passed a number of stones. Here's a beauty! http://www.f... : i am the baker
  • okay i'm gonna go vomit now : gyokuro
• The only thing that I've personally experienced worse than kidney stones are gall stones. : theangrywaffles
• ugh reminds me of deadwood, that episode was painful to watch : peat
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  KIDNEY STONE, IMMA LET YOU PASS, BUT DOOM3 WAS THE MOST PAINFUL EXPERIENCE :o : chiisu81
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    kill yourself : manero
    • I lol'd. : daVinci1980
    • Grow a sense of humour : abrasion
  • lol : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • hahahah : abrasion
  • haha nice : chungathebunga
  • hahahahahaha : sanchez
  • ok that was cute : MercFox1
  • lol, thought i was done finding that meme funny : Veegeezee
  • hahaha : Head Rush
  • bwahahaha : Trips
  • i lol'd : kingfish
  • I loved Doom 3 :( : skinlab133
  • Well played, bwahahaha. : Creepin_Jeezus
  • lol bravo : prime8
  • Nice use of the meme, but DOOM3 0wned. : Dschinghis Khan
• haha I bet Carmack is wishing for real life /noclip : cap n KRUNCH
• I'd buy JC's kidney stone on eBay. : Lukiopimp
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  This entire thread made me punch my dick off. : klearlyunseen
  • Passing through your dick is the easy part. When it gets stuck in the tube between your kidney and your ... : iamgoat
• ban this man : Fish_Bulb
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  Fuck. This thread has me googling 'how to prevent kidney stones'. : systatic
  • drink all your sodas and then eat the ice :) (it's what I do) : Scotty22
• I had a stone about 6 years ago - most painful experience of my life. Would not wish it on anyone. : TabsAZ
• Dognose?! I think Slowtreme needs a time out. >:( : heartsauce
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  god can't die?!? : Frush81
  • Why does god need a spaceship? : pigvomit

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• It was good, got my pally to 82, finished Vis'aj, made a decent pile of cash selling Obsidium and Savage ... : asylumn
• got my DK to 84, loving Uldum right now but took yesterday off to start off a dapper lycanthrope on my fr... : Dravenport
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  hit 85 on my hunter saturday. have spent the time since running dungeons to get gear for heroics, grindin... : maulla
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    also, fuck halls of origination. that shit takes FOREVER : maulla
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      Halls is one of the faster instances as you need to kill just 3 bosses if you went thru LFD. 4 bosses are... : mem
      • yea we did all of them. : maulla
      • Heroic sfk third boss is hard holy shit. Consecration +cone aoe fire : Iwannaacura
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    it also seems that people haven't realized that level 85 hunters have a stealth ability now >:) : maulla
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      It's not really stealth and you it's easy to see the hunter from range anyways. : Chod
      • I wasnt sure about it, so I dueled some guildies. they said you are completely stealthed when stationary ... : maulla
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    Same on my Druid, definitely my new raider as Resto. Only 58 but still plenty of time. : node
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      I'm thinking of bear tanking with resto offspec. I've done a lot of healing on my priest but tanking is ... : giant boy detective
      • I can't get into taking. Too frantic, though bear tanking is my favourite kind so far. Healing is the rig... : node
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  I got my hunter to 32 from 1! : pancake humper
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    fuck yeah bro! nice grind! : g0nk
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      wasn't really a grind at all. I enjoyed every minute of it and it was keeping such an awesome pace I didn... : pancake humper
      • /agree'd. I am having a blast lvling a goblin rogue. : g0nk
      • Yeah they did. I got my hunter to 27. : at0micgarden
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          Level 20 mount is 60% speed, where aspect of the cheetah is 30% movement bonus. Depending on the distance... : Entity
          • Nice, thanks. It's hard to perceive the speed difference with the naked eye. : at0micgarden
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            You can hotkey a mount now? Awesome? Where is that on the keybinds page? : DM7
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              put it on your actionbar the same way you would with any other spell, and then give it a hotkey the same ... : electroly
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                before mounts were turned into spells they were still hotkeyable by using a /cast macro. you can still d... : electroly
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                  You didn't even have to make a macro. You just put the item in your bag on your hotbar and mapped a key t... : Entity
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                    hence my first suggestion of putting it on the actionbar and mapping a key :P : electroly
                    • I'd probably put it on the actionbar and make sure a key is mapped. : Scotty22
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    I played for 3 months a few years ago and it took me that long to get to 32 : manero
    • a lot has changed. : g0nk
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      Game/leveling is completely different. : pancake humper
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        what, now it takes 2 months to get to 52? : manero
        • Dude I haven't even been playing that hardcore and my Druid is 58 after like 3 weeks. : node
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          you know as well as everyone else that the amount of time it will take is dependent on how much time you ... : maulla
          • god damn : manero
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          judging by your abilities to level, probably : pancake humper
          • lol : action roommate
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          Half a month for me to 50, and I'm not playing anywhere near as much as I did in the old days : geedeck
          • But what really makes a difference is just how much more fun the game is. Quests are so much better laid ... : geedeck
        • I started my char on Sat. before cata release (didn't feel like new race anyway) and I'm 66 already. : TheNiXXeD
        • It took me just under 2 months to go from 1 to 80, and I was amazed as the last time I played WoW was van... : hoopfam4
        • Try 2 weeks : mysled
        • I got my hunter to 52 between the Shattering and Cata's launch. : Vincent Grayson
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        I think they made it too easy to level. after 5 days of casual playing I'm up to 33 on my goblin shaman. : kikilupo
        • Level 33 is like the new level 10. : JohnnyRey
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  • 85* : wurt
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    lvl 84 was such a bitch. Double the xp from 83 almost and it sucked so bad. But its over, for now ... : josexnc
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      For now is right. Looks like at the end the max level will be 100 or 105 : Phreakin
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        "The end" you guys are nuts. MMOs don't end, especially not WoW. : Zek
        • Tell me about it. Been 6 years and still trying to beat the game. : wurt
        • The leaked plans say differently :) : Phreakin
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          "the end" would refer to when they stop releasing expansions. : maulla
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            Yeah, not gonna happen. MAYBE when they come out with a third MMO that is actually a successor to WoW, bu... : Zek
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              They will eventually be "limited" by the lore. I wouldnt expect to see 20 expansions for WoW like you see... : maulla
              • Most of the current lore they made up for Warcraft 3. They'll just make up some more when the time comes.... : Zek
              • Don't kid yourself. The "lore" won't limit anything; they'll make it up as they see fit. : dewdman
              • meh, they've got plenty of room to go elsewhere. A portal off draenor to another world that is a clean s... : JuffoWup
        • The end is when I kill the latest raid boss and there's nothing else to kill :| : ghost in my shell
    • no kidding, 84-85 was like hitting a brick wall. You see that 9mil XP requirement and just want to cry. I... : maulla
    • It only sucks if you feel like 84 is worthless except as a stepping stone to 85. The journey, not the... : Ebu
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  Got my retadin to 84. Uldum is really, really pretty. And the Harrison Jones quests are pretty entertai... : Rotten Deadite
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    I would go to TH as soon as you hit 84. more xp from quests and they are grouped a bit better : maulla
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      And the new ring of blood quests. Very Manly Staff kicks ass. :) : MacemanInTW
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        I got the bendy bow! That quest series is uber buggy, though : maulla
        • Yeah it is! Fucking worgren guy was a pain in the ass!!! : MacemanInTW
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      Is there a breadcrumb quest to get me there? : Rotten Deadite
      • once you hit 84 the quest board in the capital city will take you there. the sequence for horde was aw... : maulla
    • Unless you're enjoying Uldum. : Ebu
• finally hit 19, pretty sure 15-18 were Hell levels. Got wrecked in Shadow Fang Keep. : kgargs
• Didn't play at all this weekend! : Clay
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  Awesome. Was a great weekend to play WoW here (-5deg windchill both days), so didn't feel bad grinding o... : atom519
  • Also, the entrance/intro quest to Deepholm is pretty sweet. : atom519
• Despite not liking Hyjal and Vashjir, I'm really digging Deepholm so far. : phate81
• uldum is the greatest zone in wow history : sublime
• dk is 85 and almost geared for heroics. Got herbalism maxed but inscription is going to be a bitch for th... : josexnc
• HOL-EEE SHIT my 4 year old and I leveled a Worgen to 10 last night. Much fun! I pretty much forgot how fu : uebersoldat
• I hit 85 on my mage, and 81/2 on a bunch of other guys. Grats on the raptor thing, it looks cool! : MacemanInTW
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  Ran a bunch of heroics which snagged me two upgrades. Also got enough JP last night to buy my fourth item... : Evil Benius
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    Nice, which ones did you run? I've only completed Thrones of Tides and it was pretty crazy. Tough doing i... : Lionel2b
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      I have done SFK, DM, BRC, VP, SC, Lost City, and ToT. They are not horrible with a good group, but you ha... : Evil Benius
      • Unfortunately, Heroic Stonecore requires a tank to do a simple dance that most seem to fail at far too ea... : morsxcessum
• Got my druid to 82, completely finished Mount Hyjal...loved the very last quest. : DarthBlake
• Got my Warrior geared up in almost all Heroic gear except for Trinkets and ranged. Tonight going to queu... : Crimsonbeak
• Got my human warrior to 40. Saw the end of the Booty Bay story line, which was pretty funny and epic at t... : beanman101283
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  Calling all 85 priests...Is discipline even an option for heroic healing? I'm hearing bad things but mayb... : wurt
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    Can't you just 2 spec now? why wouldn't one be Holy for healing. : Slowtreme
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      Because at 800 discipline was viable for healing dungeons.. But i didn't play this guy that much at 80.. ... : wurt
      • Discipline was awesome in Wrath. I haven't heard much about discipline in Cata it could be that gear jus... : giant boy detective
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        I haven't played with 2spec in the game back in my day blahblahblah. But I guess I'm asking why you would... : Slowtreme
        • Yeah, Disc/Holy seems like you're just wanting to nail your nuts to wood. : walker270
        • Yea true, I'd probably eventually do disc/holy as my 2spec :) : wurt
        • Because you might like healing as Discipline more than Holy? I ran Discipline for healing for most of Wra... : Goncyn
        • DIsc was an extremely viable spec for PVE healing in Wrath, and shined in certain fights. I'm still kind ... : drhazard
  • I know 3 priests - all 3 of which have done HM Lich King - 2 of them have gone shadow since starting hero... : breadsticks
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    I'm really disappointed in disc right now. I know they don't want us shielding as much but it's ridiculou... : drhazard
    • I hear its not so bad when you stack spirit, like 2000+ : wurt
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      You have to stack a fuckton of spirit gear now. Going back to beta days where spirit was super pro : breadsticks
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        I'm probably going to also ditch Atonement, I just don't see it being any use at the moment. Maybe when I... : drhazard
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          I didn't take it simply because I don't think the dps we'd do as disc would warrant the cost of talents p... : breadsticks
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            Healing DPS talents are for PVP. I can't see any reason for healers to off dps while they heal in an enc... : morsxcessum
            • When I first saw it, I thought it would be a nice thing to mix in with other casts, just so I could appro... : drhazard
            • I liked it, dont really play priest much but ran BRC and throne of tides on regular with tard groups and ... : rhuntley12
            • every blue post I have read about the Smite talents has indicated they are intended to be used by raid he... : Goncyn
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    You now see people saying LFG heroics, no priests. It's pretty bad for them right now. Drink after trash ... : chungathebunga
    • Both priests in my guild that heal are Holy, and they have no problem performing pulls back to back. You... : morsxcessum
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      That's absurd. Ran three heroics last night with a holy priest and it was fine. It was a group that offer... : mattavius
      • Also, lightwell is amazing if dps has the brains to use it. : mattavius
  • Read my comment from last night. I play holy priest and shit is hard. Then the fact baddies are in heroic... : Iwannaacura
• Played too much and got my Mage from 32 to 47. Loving the new Fire spec, god damn. Being able to Scorch k... : Zek
• Been hopping around on too many characters to make any serious progress but I want to take it slow and en... : emcea
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  You know it's going to be a great instance run when the tank dies on the first pull, and you pick everyth... : walker270
  • oh, I will say druid tanking does feel right with the aoe lacerate-thing. Much easier to hold, much less... : walker270
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  Got to 85, don't have all heroic gear went into a 10 man raid and we got completely rocked. You definitel... : Chod
  • Yeah I think most people are saying an iLvL of 340ish is required. : Crimsonbeak
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    It'll be nerfed soon, I'm sure. : walker270
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      I doubt it. The nerf will be organic, whereby players will over gear for the content. : morsxcessum
      • If true, then this would probably be the first time in WoW's history where content wasn't nerfed 1-3 mont : walker270
• I love the dungeon finder tool. I'm leveling up a new character from scratch and finally I can run instan... : DM7
• Got to 83. Finished Vashir (fun!) and digging through Hyjal right now. Got my druid to 68 so I'm done w... : breadsticks
• Spent Sat running the lvl 85 dungeons to get guildies geared for heroics. Then Sunday we slogged (succes... : briareos99
• Does the client ever stop saying 'Applying non-critical updates.' ? I let it run over night and its still... : afrochops
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  Archaeology is unbelievable slow and not particularly rewarding, but I can't stop surveying sites! I went... : Majuju
  • Buddy got a bone raptor mount from Arch last night : breadsticks
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    Yeah I hit 350. Going to grind it out in hopes of getting a Zin'Rokh or the 1handed sword once I hit 525... : Crimsonbeak
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      How long does it take to grind? : walker270
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        Forever and a half. But it is something to do while waiting for 50 min heroic queues. : Crimsonbeak
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          Are heroic bosses better than normal mode? By better, I mean do they actually make sense? Seems like : walker270
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            You still don't get the cues from Ozruk in Heroic to run away or move from in front of him. You need to ... : morsxcessum
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              The cast bar did not seem long enough for melee to move out. : walker270
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                oh, and having an order to his abilities would be a cue. If he casts it right after paralyze is up, th... : walker270
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                  or maybe that wasn't what was hitting me... Looking at his abilities, I may have being knocked by grou... : walker270
                  • Great fight to learn on heroic. : mattavius
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          24 hours of playtime to get to 525, more or less. to get the epics, probably a lot longer :( I am actuall... : Majuju
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            Unless you care about Dwarves don't even bother with EK. Kalimdor is NE/Troll/Fossil/Ramakan and Northre... : Crimsonbeak
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              Kalimdor has maybe one troll site, and two or three fossil. EK has way more troll & fossil sites! : Majuju
              • also dwarves have the epic staff and the teleport so it's worth doing : Majuju
  • I just want my teleport trinket, my Hunter collects them. Shame I didn't get the brewfest one. :( I can't... : node
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    Yeah, the rewards for archaeology are terrible, but I understand the point was to give players something ... : Rotten Deadite
    • The rewards are actually really good. There are a lot of nice rare rewards its too bad the skill itself i... : Chod
    • at least there are a few really good rewards (the epics are first-tier raiding gear), and some cool gimmi... : Majuju
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    Can you just keep collecting them without solving them and then just solve like 10 in a row if you saved ... : NukemForever
    • yes! the archaeology pro in Goon Squad recommends this method. : Majuju
• make sure you do the katamari quest in uldum its awesome : spiderfill
• I took my Belf Auction Mule over to the Undead starting area. Quests seemed sorta broken. There were so f... : zakazi
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  I loved Uldum. Seriously, best zone ever. Deepholm and Twilight Highlands were both cool, but Uldum was f... : lightly inclined
  • Hyjal was pure loregasm : mattavius
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  I'm still waiting to get into the new content. I'm busy grinding up my Paladin in Northrend. It's nice ... : mastermike569
  • Must be weird being in a dead zone where no one is around? :o : DM7
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  I still haven't recovered my account =( : action roommate
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    do it : pancake humper
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      Oh I'm going to - my collector's edition arrived via UPS a couple days ago. I just need to find time t... : action roommate
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        was your account hacked or something? : pancake humper
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          Yes, I can only assume so. While I wasn't playing for the last year+ : action roommate
          • definitely get the authenticator on your account when you get it back. the free phone version works pret... : dantastic
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  -I ran some more Cata Heroics on my Druid. -Worked on enchanting and noticed a big fuck up by blizzard. ... : lcizzle
  • Yeah the recipe requires 500 to buy but 515 to learn lol I'm at 510 it's been hard to skill up but I fini... : Iwannaacura
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  Looks like the AH prices on embersilk and volatile elements are finally starting to normalize. I sold sev... : maulla
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    full stacks of herbs were down ~50g on Sunday compared to Saturday : tashtego
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      I made about 7k off skinning this weekend. Got my 4k flying skill and blew some on gear at the AH. : Rauol Duke
      • Nice. I cleared 14k from skinning but mostly mining. I've never had so much money. : das_runt
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        What does the 4k flying skill do? 310% everywhere (not just old world)? : fishbone
        • Yes : Ebu
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  Hit 85 on Friday, learned the normal dungeons and geared up for heroics. Did some heroics and found the c... : ghost in my shell
  • Oh man I forgot these two things! 1. Defeated an alliance pre-made to win Tol Barad. It was 5 v 5! 2.... : ghost in my shell
• I ran into an endless chain of quest bugs which disallowed me to complete any one zone's quest chains to ... : Entity
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  Need some Ui help. What do you guys think is the best all in one package for an Ui addon?. : xpogox
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    TukUI is generally considered the best all-in-one package, though I strongly discourage UI packs. It's be... : Entity
    • Shadowed Unit Frames is great. Was almost exactly what I wanted out of the box and the options are easy. ... : Chod
    • I did not like TukUI because it changed or simplified too much for me. I am pretty happy with ShadowUF an... : Nihil ME
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  I did two heroics over the weekend and when I "did them" I mean they kicked my ass. I started with heroic... : das_runt
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    The sad thing is this will probably only last another day or two for decently put together groups. I alre... : Evil Benius
    • fuck Blizzard for not inventing a mental transmitter and scale heroics appropriately! : walker270
    • We'll see. My random group gave up. I got into Lost City after that and eventually downed the first boss.... : das_runt
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    Fuck that boss. Wiped a bunch of times on her. Once because a miss-streak left me without the rage to int... : -JLN-
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      Half of the challenge seems to be setting up and customizing your UI so all of the important information ... : walker270
      • This is actually one of my main complaints with WoW. Blizzards over reliance on user mods to make their g... : -JLN-
      • Related: Somebody PLEASE tell me how to disable TukUI's raid frames. PLEASE. : drhazard
  • Throne of Tides was indeed challenging, as I posted above I ran it with a guild of 4 and it took us 20+ w... : Lionel2b
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  I did every quest in Hyjal and Deepholm. Deepholm was my favorite zone in the game so far. I started Udaa... : Rauol Duke
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    I pretty much only did every instance once on the way to 85 so you should be fine. : Evil Benius
    • It's more for learning them than anything, I hate leading a group but I hate being the weak link more. : Rauol Duke
  • Uldum is an 84-85 zone. : ArcKnight
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  Got a server first Warrior, finished all the heroics, don't need justice points anymore, leveled 6 profes... : wtNORTHMAN
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    Just how full is your poopsock? : walker270
    • It's manageable. : wtNORTHMAN
    • They come in pairs, you know! : drhazard
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    is wagon still playing WoW? : pancake humper
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      Negative, don't think he games at all anymore. : wtNORTHMAN
      • Can't believe he's married now too! : pancake humper
• Hit 85, still in Uldum, still one average ilvl short of doing heroics. Still loving it, though I'm rea... : Vincent Grayson
• Got my first charcter to 80! The accelerated leveling really made me feel like I missed a lot of content ... : byorn
• I think my only complaint with some of the new zones is that the FPs don't connect soon enough to the old... : Rauol Duke
• Deepholm was very cool, but I gotta say, I loved Uldum. I just now moved over to Twilight Highlands to t... : Tripps
• lots of fun! I forgot to make a steam-aware shortcut to the launcher, so now my FPS buddies are going "NO : Downforce
• i'm up to level 30 with my blood elf hunter. it's pretty sweet. i'll probably outpace my old character fr... : dahanese
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  Hunter to 85. Mining/Engineering to 525. Time to quit and play street fighter. :( : smackpiece
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    lies. get ready for cthun : Downforce
    • NO. NEVER AGAIN : smackpiece
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      Loved that fight. Between him and Kael, felt truely epic when we finally killed them. : atom519
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        Which fight? Impossible C'Thun or Fixed Baby C'Thun 2.0? : pancake humper
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          I think impossible? We downed him probably a month or so after AQ came out. Could have been patched by ... : atom519
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            Yeah I think you guys beat ez mode c'thun after Blizzard was like 'oh yeah, btw there was a bug with C'Th... : pancake humper
            • I wasn't directly in your crew at the though, but props to killing pre-nerf gruul. now that is hardcore. : Downforce
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              What about those Twin Emps though? US Horde First bitches. : smackpiece
              • I was looking for your sig graphics but groupbutts is down :( : pancake humper
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                Did you play on Medivh? : Ambient80
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                  No, sir. I'm a good ol' Mal'Ganis boy(girl). : smackpiece
                  • Ah, ok. I know Medivh Horde was really close to that achievement back in the day, but I couldn't remember... : Ambient80
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              Wait, who is "us"? : TheNiXXeD
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                Aeternus !! : pancake humper
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                  best ternus : smackpiece
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                    I miss you guys =( And sunshine too. : TheNiXXeD
                    • But wtf, was pancake humper in when I was? Or was that later? : TheNiXXeD
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              ph i died to c'thun at level 80 : electroly
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                fuckin' eye beam, man. nobody told me there was going to be an eye beam!!!!!! : electroly
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                  Our guild was one that ran in gung-ho and was insta-killed by the eye beam doing like 432984329874327402 ... : Ambient80
                  • i ran it with a pug going for the achievement. i watched the whole fight from my corpse, lol : electroly
    • That boss was so scary from the perspective of someone who's never done it. Just the whole "get swallowe... : Rotten Deadite
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    I also did heroic deadmines yesterday. I have no idea wtf was happening during the last part of it, but i... : smackpiece
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      Smackette let's do heroics :D :D :D : Magitek
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        I HAVE A FRIKKEN JERB. YOU (elitist) JERK!!?!? : smackpiece
        • LIES. your REAL job is to pet pull for scorned :D olololo : Downforce
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  I'm a little concerned about the quality of questing as I gain levels. Dahanese and I are playing Blood E : OverloadUT
  • They didn't overhaul every zone, and that may be one they missed. : walker270
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    It seems hit or miss. Westfall and Redridge were amazing, but then Duskwood and Stranglethorn were pretty... : beanman101283
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      Duskwood terrible? That's been one of my favorite zones ever since the game came out. Blasphemy! : phate81
      • Nothing happens there. There's no story holding everything together, and the vast majority of the quests ... : beanman101283
  • Arathi had basically no changes, so the quests there suck. There's probably another area you can go to th... : ChibiJosh
  • Think mainly a few noob areas got overhauled majorly. Go to western plaguelands instead of arathi, its mu... : rhuntley12
  • Arathi and the one north of that (Timberlands? Timbervale?) sucked when I was leveling my undead guy. The... : tashtego
  • Stop by MMO-Champ and see which zones they posted for graphic makeovers. Those are the ones you want to ... : breadsticks
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    Weird. I tried making that hop myself and I couldn't get any quest lines going. :( Barely any quests avai... : zakazi
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      Any main city should have a quest board that directs you to 1+ appropriate zones for your level. Often ti... : TheNiXXeD
      • Weird, The board shows nothing to me. : zakazi
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      Probably because you went straight to Brill. You need to head West to pickup the quests right outside of ... : OverloadUT
      • Hmmm, I went to deathknell, did 3-4 quests there then it just died. No more quests. Picked up a couple mo... : zakazi
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    Arathi's always been pretty boring and it doesn't look like a lot has changed there. I would skip it and ... : BlackCat9
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      Desolace still sucks, go to Plaguelands. : Majuju
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        Looks like Plaguelands starts at 35 so I still need to gain like 4 levels : OverloadUT
        • Barrens! : Majuju
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      What's the 1-85 one on there. : zakazi
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        that's the druid zone : Majuju
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          Moonglade! I forgot the name. it's not for leveling, though. : Majuju
          • Ah! I had wondered if that might be it. Just stood out. : zakazi
• I dig the fact that the new Heroics are challenging. That said, I absolutely despise how wonky the diffic... : seaNity
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  So uh... ... GCR's still on MG? Someone invite Tetsumoros >_< : boarder2
  • wooo : theWhite
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  The best is how challenging the heroics are, there are some encounters that are practically unPUGgable. ... : grendel
  • That third boss trips everyone up. You're basically at the complete mercy of the tank, since it's entire... : atom519
• Did some heroics with guildies last night. We got Shugashack its Heroic Stonecore achievement. : slax0r
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  Hit 78 questing in Icecrown. It's a pretty epic zone, with it's gigantic iron bladed gates. But it does... : SqueegyTBS
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    Well you would have just got cold weather flying in wrath. : TheNiXXeD
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      Assuming you had the 2kg stockpiled, or whatever. : walker270
      • It was like 800g-1k before I thought. And it's like 400g now. : TheNiXXeD
• lol...the first quest reward BLEW AWAY my previous quest reward gear from Northrend. The cloth chestpeace... : byorn
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  I LOVE pugs. This shit actually happened: http://bit.ly/gfd0sB : skinlab133
  • So was the warrior the tank? : byorn
  • lulz : Dravenport
  • I don't think warrior was tank. Probably rogue was tank. : Rotten Deadite
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    Who's the tank, What's the mage, I Don't Know's the priest. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ekLO8BwxwE : BlackCat9
    • ah yes, good old abbott and costello : JuffoWup
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    we were in an instance and the tank pulled about 10 guys and then left the group. the next tank ran thro... : jenisthebest
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      It'll be funny when these guys do Storecore at 83 and can't get past the first pull. : BlackCat9
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        I have wiped on the first pull in Stonecore an uncomfortable number of times. : Goncyn
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          Regular? : MacemanInTW
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            Yeah. Two of the swirly dust aoe thingies at once is a bit hard to deal with :( : Goncyn
            • stonecore has forced me to reevaluate how to heal as a druid druid healing SUCKS by the way - they mad... : sludge vohaul
  • lol, damn. Dumb healer. It's not really hard to tell who is tank considering they have an icon by their... : CyCo_PL
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    Haha, that really is a priceless screen cap. : furiouschuck
    • The refusal to heal and then the tank dieing is pretty much gold. : skinlab133
• Anyone know how long Fedex will hold a package? due to a shipping fuck up I had them hold my CE at a shi... : Crimsonbeak
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  Hit 85 last night. I'm really close to being able to run Heroics (without cheating). Hopefully I can try ... : Frozen Pixel
  • The first boss in Heroic Deadmines is a BLAST. It's just so insane. : ArcKnight
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    What's cheating? : fishbone
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      Buying gear you cant use and keeping it in your bag to up your gear score average so you can enter Heroic... : Frozen Pixel
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        Hah, hadn't heard of that one. Why does the gear score take into account items in your bag? And how doe... : fishbone
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          It would just count the highest ilvl item you own in each slot : OverloadUT
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            it is a Very Dumb Metric, much like regular gearscore was! : Majuju
            • It's better than nothing, or you'd get a bunch of people who just hit 85 trying to do Heroics on the coat... : OverloadUT
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        Seems an absurdly simple check to not put in their gear score code... : yAak
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          If they only checked the gear you had equipped, it would cause problems for people (like me) who quest in... : Goncyn
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            Frozen Pixel made it sound like you could buy up some plate armor as a cloth healer and have it count tow... : yAak
            • You can. I do that now, actually, but that's because the gear check Blizzard has is fucking retarded. ... : walker270
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            That won't work, you might have a spectacular tanking set, be q'd as a tank, and questing as ret (this as... : rmjackson
            • It should only look at gear with the highest level enchants. Oh man I could hear the bitching now... : KxRook
• God I can't wait until Friday. I am so excited to geek it out in WoW for a few days when I start Christma... : Ambient80
• I was trying to find a decent Feral Tank build today and I was looking at some of the top guilds that hav... : giant boy detective
• 85 tonight!!!! Who wants to Dungeon find??! : D45hiz
• Purchased Saturday, played a bit, got my Warrior up to 20. Just using him to free up a DK. Also might ... : Deviaant
• I wish I had a robot slave or the ability to duplicate myself (like the mutant Multiple Man) so that I co... : das_runt
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  AITOOOO?? i have like zero motivation to level. i'm 82 and just taking it slowly. i hate leveling ... : xxiv
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    I've been going slowly on my main, too. Many people in my guild are rushing to get to 85 by the end of th... : BlackCat9
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      Well, the game is supposed to be you doing what you like, so keep at it! : DianeOfTheMoon
      • Typical Blizzard company line BS. : BlackCat9
  • I've been enjoying levelling because green quest rewards are massively buffing my shitty alts. Since my d... : Entity
  • I've been slow with my mage, letting rest xp build up while I check out the new world with alts. : bigblack
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  My resto shaman is at ilvl 342. Gotta run lost city to replace my green gloves which will probably put me... : Nighteyes
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    H Stonecore Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBlFDBmFcmk Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/wat... : Nighteyes
    • Awesome. 30 second shamwow commercials on youtube now. Fantastic. : Entity
• Hit 82 last night, working on 83 tonight. Haven't run an instances yet, just been questing so far. Left ... : Zips
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  Did they reset the scrolls of resurrection? I was thinking about trying out the post-Shattering changes, ... : dfay
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    More importantly, is it still restricted to people without WotLK? : Arcanum
    • Oh really? I didn't know that it was. I guess I'm out as a possibility if that's the case. : dfay
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  Pretty good. I was on vacation until Saturday, and have gone from 80 to 84 on my Shaman in these 3 days. ... : ramshot
  • You think that's bad? I was in a premade group for a heroic. Even though it was just random players from ... : Nighteyes
• I'm kind of feeling like I'm losing interest. I haven't touched my 80's (no interest what-so-ever in get... : valael