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  used very sparingly. There's a reason why System Shock 2 was 100 times as frightening as Doom 3. : DonkeyPopsicle
  • This really sums up exactly how I feel. When playing System Shock 2, everything felt purely coincidental.... : tomservo
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  Have you played Penumbra? They are probably the scariest games I've played : Mr. Goodwrench
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    I haven't. Oddly enough I am not really one to play scary games. As much as I'd love to play Dead Space, ... : tomservo
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      haha. Stalker was pretty unique in it's bleak, desolate fear. You should definitely try Penumbra thoug... : Mr. Goodwrench
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        I'll give it a peep! : tomservo
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          Yeah, I got into the first part in Overture and when I heard the dog I quit the game and never went back. : Rotten Deadite
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            Holy shit I thought I was the only one! I still have it installed on Steam, though, in case I ever gro : Paranoid Android
            • You guys should REALLY consider finishing those games. The second game takes a really fucked up direction... : Mr. Goodwrench
      • S.T.A.L.K.E.R. was great at instilling that "holy fuck you are so screwed" feeling a lot of the time. Th... : deject
  • Ok that looks creepy. : hrdwregk
  • One of my favorite series of all time and one I would recommend to anyone for the sheer dread factor. Hi... : freak!
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  I like games like condemned which use sound and atmosphere to create the scares along with a mix of some... : sigpro
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    Yeah Condemned really did it well. There were a lot of scripted scares in Condemned but they felt natural : tomservo
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      They used 5.1 sound really well in Condemned to to make it very creepy. Hearing shit move behind your or : sigpro
      • The mannequin part was downright traumatizing D: : tomservo
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  AvP had a lot scripted, but it did rely on the "suddently silent" effect. : MaverickOrig
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    It was the motion detector which scared the piss out of me. : tboomer2
    • That's because as often as not it was an alert that you would be dying soon. :D : Arcanum
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      It was the facehugger skitter that brings a chill to my spine. : Crimsonbeak
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        Similar to the super headcrabs in Half-Life 2. Oh god I hate those things. : tomservo
        • Fuck I hated those things. I always saved my grenades JUST for dealing with those health depleting basta... : Ormsbee
        • those fucking poison headcrabs :( I hate them so much. every time I hear one I panic. : deject
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  Im surprised you put FEAR over Deadspace. Both i thought were good though, Deadspace had much more of ... : YerMothah
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    I only put FEAR over Deadspace because I've played much more FEAR. I tried the Deadspace demo, and as muc... : tomservo
    • I really didn't find Dead Space that scary, but it was a ton of fun. : Rauol Duke
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  the cheap scare tactics are great as long as they're entertaining, and appropriate for the environment. a... : busdriver3030
  • AvP is definitely high on that list. I spent a lot of time playing as an Alien and Predator, but my heart... : tomservo
• I don't really care either way, because I enjoy when any game can get a real visceral reaction from me. D... : Rauol Duke
• The ambient sound effects and use of darkness and Doom 3 gave it a deliciously foreboding atmosphere and ... : Dave-A
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  Doom 3 was terrible with the hidden janitor closets that happened to have imps in them. : gmd
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    The shadowing was badass, though. Does any other game come close to the unified lighting in Doom3? I thou... : aggressor
    • ya.. Doom3 had the best 'total darkness' effect going on, to date imo... : ShadowRam
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    It worked for a while at first, but even for me who scares like a cat, after a while they just became rea... : tomservo
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      Thousands of years ago, alien demons from mars were placed in secret locations around the planet which by... : gmd
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        If Doom marine could speak demon we would have heard them simply say "HAY HOW YOU DOING???" when they ste... : tomservo
        • Oh hi Carl, how are the wife and kids? : gmd
  • yea, almost every slightly-out-of-place item triggered a monster spawn. : SolveChrist
• I loved that splicer moment, it scared me twice... : Ender.Wiggin
• the headcrab in halflife got a lot of people in scary moments. going through a dark room and BAM. if yo... : handofthrawn
• Its the same as movies really. I dont really respond to movies with similar cheap tactics, i find the atm... : disembodied potato
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  "dog through the window" are extremely viable and effective way to get a scare out of the user, if they a... : freakynipples69
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    Did anyone play AvP on the Atari Jaguar? That shit was scary as hell too. : Rauol Duke
    • Yeah, that was really scary as well. I wish I could go back and play it, if only to remember why is was s... : freakynipples69
  • Agreed, cheap scares have their place. I find they actually do a good job of resetting tension--the immed... : drhazard
• Dead Space has the crown for recent cheap scare tactics. There's some parts where the enemies just appea... : grabbie
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  The first FEAR did them quite well. They were kinda cheap 'BOO' moments, but their execution and ingenuit... : Beady
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    What is the mirror thing? I am pretty sure I can guess but just to be sure... : tomservo
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      iirc, it was early on in the dentists/mad doctors room. I cant for the life of me if it was a mirror t... : Beady
      • Oh right I remember that one. : tomservo
• I found STALKER far more scary than FEAR : retardhumper
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  DooM remains the scariest game I ever played. I remember literally dodging in my chair when imps threw fi... : boring gegtik
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    There's a room in Doom 2 on the Refueling Station map where it took me about two days to convince myself ... : tomservo
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      The build-up and apprehension is what makes it scary for me. All of Ravenholm in HL2 has a tangible leve... : ezanga
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        Yeah those headcrab guys in HL2 are the scariest for me in that series. There's one spot in the prison wh... : tomservo
        • Fuck those poisoncrab carriers. Goddamn they're just sickening to look at, killing them took so much ammo... : MercFox1
  • As cliche of an answer as it may be, Silent Hill 2 is the only other game I've been really viscerally fri... : boring gegtik
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  Thief 3 Orphanage level or Vampire Masquerade Haunted Hotel <3 : breadsticks
  • Hell yes, I was going to mention that orphanage level too. I was afraid to go into the next room. I think... : jvox
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  FEAR is pretty awesome. If you paid attention to the phone calls going on behind the scenes, it revealed : MercFox1
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    the fucking INVISIBLE NINJAs in fear scared me more than the little girl shit. I love fear so much. : papaskot
    • yea, the whole end sequence was insane - running... for... my... life... And then the greatest explosi : dedgecko
  • It's sad that the sequel was such a disappointment. It was competent, but there was nothing memorable abo... : beanman101283
• STALKER did it perfect.... Long lulls of nothing and emptiness... makes you really feel alone, and you ge... : ShadowRam
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  System Shock 2 in coop was scary shit, even with teamwork the enemies always were a challenge and with re... : Sailor of Fortune
  • "Your Voice...is not ours." : AxeMan808
• Still sounds like you were scared by a cheap frill (although perhaps for the first time). To me, the b : Wikus Van De Merwe
• you know it's so common in movies to have a cat jump out of a closet as a cheap scare tactic, I'm sad I'v... : mrtony
• btw cheap is good as long as it's effective and not repetitive. the imp behind every door thing in Doom ... : mrtony
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  They Hunger was an awesome scary game for me. Especially after i started to feel a little safer once the : MamiyaOtaru
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    I always wanted to play this but never got around to it. : gmd
    • its a fun trilogy, check it out, gmd. : Snuffles-
  • I wonder what ever happened to the sequel to that? No word on it it MONTHS. : zipr
• The darkness of the labs in STALKER were rather spooky. Definitely a more tension driven fear than a Boo!... : Snuffles-
• Cheap scare tactics are exactly that: cheap. And like most cheap things, they're fine at first but have n... : ConfusedUs
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  I loved the opening of Unreal when you were first introduced to a Skaarj Warrior ... you walked into this... : cap n KRUNCH
  • Oh man yes. That seems like it was one of the first scripted FPS game moments ever. : tomservo
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  I've never been scared by a video game, and I submit that it's not possible to be scared by a video game.... : Dynotaku
  • Have you ever played STALKER? : MercFox1
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    You can't have played the right games. : Pandilex
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      Oh I've played a lot of games but to me there's a big difference between a good jump scare and something ... : Dynotaku
      • There's a part in vampire the masquerade with a haunted house. There is absolutely nothing that can kill ... : Pandilex
  • I think it has to do with immersion. How immersed are you when you play your games? I usually dive into i... : ieGod
  • Fatal Frame. : genom
• I remember the set of windows near the beginning of Resident Evil 2. The first time you go past, nothing ... : ruckboos
• i dont know if this is a scare tactic or if i'm just a giant pussy or what but playing through HL2:ep2, t... : aurealis
• I like them in small doses. FEAR did it very well. : Downforce
• I love them and love scary games. Stalker and DooM 3 are my one and two top scary games and it's differen... : DM7
• dead space had a bunch of cheap thrills. : dahanese
• condemned locker moment : jane911

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  play whatever your friends are playing. otherwise... PC because I still think FPS games are made for P... : azenmaster
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    FPS games today aren't made for the PC primarily, most are just ports of console games. : free2game365
    • I meant that the concept of an FPS, a shooter where you see a dot in the middle of your screen and shoot ... : azenmaster
• PC baby! : onji
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  All the cool kids are buying it for PC. : MuteMode
  • I can sit at the cool table now? : The Grolar Bear
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  I was wondering 360 or PC....I'm leaning towards pc due to the active Steam Community :) : pun][sher
  • 360 for me. Far more regular players on there for me. : Fred Garvin
  • Active as in they'll play that and other games. : Sailor of Fortune
• PC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : trOmblyj
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  Omfg the ShackBattles for this are going to be epic. : MercFox1
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    haha - I was a bit rusty with my chopper flying last night. My apologies. : dedgecko
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      Indeed sir. I will also take blame because I couldn't really direct you, TS2 hasn't been installed on my ... : MercFox1
      • yea, medster and I are normally on vent without PTT - so we're pretty much hollering out orders non-stop.... : dedgecko
• PC for the shackbattles! and because its an fps :x : wurt
• PC for me : losimagic
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  Probably PC, assuming none of my buddies get it for 360 : maulla
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    I'm getting it for 360 :( : Silent Wolf
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      SW, we arent on the same page any more. :( : maulla
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        Try having kids, you'll be on my page after that... :( : Silent Wolf
        • soon enough, sir. : maulla
    • 360 HERE! : conandan
• I went with the PC version myself... : Shadowdane
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  I'd want a PC demo first, otherwise 360. : nomaad
  • This is key, I really need to try the demo for PC or get in the beta. : Begawkiness
• I was surprised by how well it worked on the PS3, so much so that I actually have to stop and think wheth : Begawkiness
• PEA SEE : stelth
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  Will this be very playable on a 8800 gt, e8400, 2 gb ram? : bongturbo
  • yes : feek
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  Also, in the event that a 4 pack deal opens up ( http://twitter.com/L_Twin/status/8111111274 ) who wants ... : MuteMode
  • No one? : MuteMode
  • I will. : Nitrium
  • I'm waiting three more days for it, though, as I want to get it for the beta. : Nitrium
  • If this happens I would definitely buy it on PC, even if my PC has trouble running it at the moment. I'd... : Begawkiness
  • Me! : Bamtan
  • Count me in : Sailor of Fortune
  • Alright - I'll be sure and SM you guys first when I buy the four pack : MuteMode
  • I will, just for the record. : The Grolar Bear
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  PC and I wish this could replace DODS : .frame
  • It probably will... : Alco23
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    No, replace UT3. : Sailor of Fortune
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      What? No. DOD sucks and is old. : ArcKnight
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        yeah i don't care much for DODS the only reason I play is because of the people. : .frame
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          As long as BC2 server can support all talk:) : .frame
          • Exactly. : ArcKnight
          • That's my main reason to keep DOD:S. : Sailor of Fortune
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            Based on previous DICE titles, there probably isn't alltalk by default. We'll all be using Vent/TS/Mumble... : Alco23
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              Vent works. As long as JPB can inspire us to plant those bombs and kill filthy Americans, it'll be fine : yacoub35
              • I support this. : WaterSign
• both. that's what I'm doing anyway. : moe6
• PC obviously : eeeealmo
• Can we cancel our pre-order if we dont like this game? this game doesnt run?? : Iwannaacura
• I might pre-order on steam to get beta access, and if it don't go well, get a refund. Is that even doable... : LordHellMaX
• Already preordered for PC and 360 - EA gave me a 25% off coupon for my birthday, so I ordered the 360 ver... : ArcKnight
• PC for sure. : razlebol
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  PC I can't aim with my thumbs in good conscience. : lodit
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    yeah that is my main concern, but I could always learn by forcing myself to play it on console : LordHellMaX
    • BFBC was basically how i learned to do it on console. i did alright, if i may say so myself - and playing... : xsoulbrothax
  • what does your conscience have to do with aiming with your thumbs? : Herman Toothrot
• Got a new computer recently so most likely PC for me. : ukmostwanted
• 360 for me, my machine won't run them there modern games :( : stonedonkey
• PC here. But with a copy from Gamefly for 360 just in case for the shack rape squads. : Sailor of Fortune
• PC and the people picking it up for 360 better get it at gamestop as they are limiting the 4vs4 squad com... : stgdz
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  How'd the feel of ground combat compare with CoD mw1/2? Because goddamn! After playing BF2 last night... : dedgecko
  • bah - posted too early. Original question was for any of the BFBC2 beta testers. : dedgecko
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    I always felt like the ground combat in the BF series was pretty lacking too, but having played the BC2 b... : Begawkiness
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      I felt so naked and slow with all the extra shit that BF2 still uses (4-5 weapons/items), sluggish feelin... : dedgecko
      • Well I can at least tell you there is a knife button, an auto-sprint, and you only carry two weapons and ... : Begawkiness
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    BF:V had the best infantry combat of the PC releases, and it was the least liked title :( I loved that... : maulla
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      I'd disagree with that. It had the same floaty gun play / movement as any other BF title pre Frostbite. : dedgecko
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        maybe it was just because the infantry was actually viable and worthwhile in BF:V. it definitely still ha... : maulla
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          I love BF:V, and i agree with your sentiments maulla, the infantry combat was pretty good. I miss that ga... : Silent Wolf
          • I really liked dropping boats and shit on people with a chopper... : dedgecko
  • It's not as fluid but it feels a bit more realistic and less "quake-y". : razlebol
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  If I get it, PC. : edgewise
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    If I pre-order it on Steam, do I get the Limited Edition perks? : edgewise
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      yup... shows in my Steam list as Limited Ed : Shadowdane
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        lol, I just checked what the unlocks are. Motion sensor? Extra tank armor & Alt-fire? Tracking darts? Tal... : edgewise
        • That stuff gets unlocked as you play anyway. It's like starting MW2 at level 20 instead of 0. : ArcKnight
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          Apparently its all stuff that you can unlock within the first few hours of the game anyway. : Beady
          • just like BF2142 tbh. : dedgecko
        • CHEATING. definitely CHEATING. : yacoub35
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      There are rumors of a four pack on Steam no? : ieGod
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        Well if they're selling well enough now, I wouldn't count on it. Plus, I wouldn't be surprised if they he... : edgewise
        • This is what I think is going to happen. : The Grolar Bear
    • All preorders are LE : Sailor of Fortune
• I'm waiting on performance numbers from the Beta. I'm pretty sure my PC will be able to run it but I don'... : h o s t i l e
• BTW have DICE even show ANY pc footage at all? All of the gameplay videos I've seen are 360 ones. : free2game365
• PC! : prime8
• PC all the way. When I played the PS3 beta I kept thinking that this would be much better if it was on th... : PointlesS76
• PC absolutely : ezanga
• Just pre-ordered PC myself. : freakynipples69
• God the beta starts 2 days after ME2 comes out. Which means I have 2 DAYS to beat ME2! : Dynotaku
• I wont pre-order it until I know that the FOV isnt shit (headaches) and that the Server Browser/Online fu... : Beady
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  Why wouldn't you get it on PC? Look at this screenshot http://www.shacknews.com/images/image-o-matic.x?/... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    That doesn't really look that great : free2game365
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      those of us who can't play games every day of the year like it a lot : malloc
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        I haven't played any FPS games in awhile and to me that doesn't look that great, that background looks li... : free2game365
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          The rock geometry and textures aren't brilliant but the character models are very detailed. I don't think... : Klebold
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            It looks worse than a game I played two years ago, so it's not really that impressive to me. : free2game365
            • haha : Godhatesfatpeople
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              Let me guess, it begins with a C? yeah i thought so that too. Not being the best looking game in the worl... : Klebold
              • I recant this statement. : Klebold
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                Maybe if it came out right after it, but Crysis is two going on three years old now, or maybe if it wasn'... : free2game365
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                  and which of those engines could handle a game of this scale and still look good and perform well? : maulla
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                    From what I remember Crysis Wars was a 32 player MP game on about the same scale as BC2's MP and it looke... : free2game365
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                      I'm sorry, but the netcode of Crysis Wars pales in comparison to anything that's come from DICE. The gam... : dedgecko
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                        What? Do you remember playing BF1942, BF Vietnam, or Battlefield 2 when they first came out? They were mu... : free2game365
                        • We will agree to disagree. CW was unplayable in it's original form of Crysis MP. Vehicles didn't warp a... : dedgecko
    • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
    • I don't know what games you've been playing, but that shot is purty. : ezanga
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      Have you not watched any of the gameplay videos? If it looks AT LEAST that good on the PC (which it will)... : MercFox1
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        I remember seeing some actual in game screens from the beta and they looked pretty unimpressive tbh, thos... : free2game365
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          You're funny if you think the beta gameplay videos are rendered. : Godhatesfatpeople
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            Now just read over that again.... : free2game365
            • I'm pretty curious which one you felt was pre-rendered, I haven't seen any pre-rendered ones yet, but the... : yAak
        • Scripted? In what way? It wouldn't surprise me if the action was scripted, but having played the beta stu... : PointlesS76
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          That's typical when we played on XBL BFBC. They should have made of video of me rushing a tank with my po... : Sailor of Fortune
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            Ah, good times. I also loved seeing a sniper shoot from the next building over, blowing a hole in the wal... : Head Rush
            • diablo ears! : Iwannaacura
        • Having played the PS3 beta, the gameplay shown in the videos isn't unrealistic. To be clear though, the : yAak
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      What game looks better? That "bullshot" looks better than Crysis. : Crabs Jarrard
      • Good lord you're right. i just google searched for some pictures and my memory seems to have failed me. : Klebold
    • WTF : Serpico74
• PC. Looking forward to this actually. : chungathebunga
• I am going with 360 since most of the people I want to play with will probably be there again. : Evil Benius
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  360, even though it looks like some of the BC1 veterans are going PC :( : Head Rush
  • Hells yeah! i am far superior with a mouse than a joystick and this seems like the kind of game i'd want ... : Klebold
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    fuck that; 360, my brother. : mittense
    • (as will Dan and soulbrotha and that's all that matters). : mittense
  • Honestly I'd prefer it on PS3 but early beta access and possible 4 pack makes me reconsider... That and s... : SatansFist
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    I'm going both. : Sailor of Fortune
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      Good, because I would sincerely miss killing us both in helicopters. : Head Rush
      • Don't worry. I'll play some BFBC2 beta and my piloting skills don't fade easily. : Sailor of Fortune
• PC! : ieGod
• PC : ant_hillbilly
• PC "ofc", as the texters say : yacoub35
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  Just pre-ordered the PC version, anyone wanna invite me to the BF:BC2 steam group? It's my birthday! : ProtoPunch
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    Post your steam profile link. : Alco23
    • D'oh http://steamcommunity.com/id/protopunch : ProtoPunch
  • OMGHPPD!!! :D : ArcKnight
  • Yay! Thank you! :D : ProtoPunch
• tree siddy. But it's my primary gaming system. PC version later, on sale. : Fyunch Click

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  This is gonna be good. ATI has the lead right now with their new cards. It will be interesting to see if ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    I doubt it. Unless Fermi is one hell of a GPU (better than the indications say it will be) they're going... : deject
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      The paper specs for fermi look impressive as hell, but there is no way that initial card is going to appe... : ryuuseki
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        nVidia seems to be trying to court the HPC market more than the hardcore gamer crowd with it... Probab... : walker270
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          Considering the current shift in GPU I agree, although I think it was a little early to be doing this on ... : one random winner
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            I'm sure it was a calculated decision -- cheaper to have one production core used for both than the split... : walker270
            • Entirely possible, especially considering they're artificially neutering the DP FMA, they could make just... : one random winner
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      I have a feeling (from the previews I've read) that Fermi will be a large, expensive, hot card with more ... : one random winner
      • yah the card looks to be a beast... will be interesting once we have actual hardware to look at. : Shadowdane
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      imo, I'm expecting the Fermi to rock the boat something fierce... reason... ECC video card memory... : ShadowRam
      • ECC memory does nothing to help performance and is more expensive. I don't see the point for a consumer ... : deject
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  Is anyone sick of video card naming conventions. Ati is almost full circle here. I think Radeons started ... : norulez
  • 1A/B/C (budget, midrange, highend), 2A/B/C etc. : Marrbe
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    The marketing people did name them. that's why the naming conventions suck. : Fyunch Click
    • Yeah it has got to be obfuscated by design. Just go to a shop and try to buy a video card without prior k... : Geoffrois
• I had an AMD Evergreen CPU like 15 years ago. It was a drop-in replacement for my P90. I don't think it's... : vitaminzach
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  ATI don't use new processes on their new cards I don't think but whatever it looks interesting : chazums
  • If they do jump to 28nm it may be the first time a GPU has been on the same/better process than the most ... : one random winner
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  I really don't care about how great ATI cards will be until they fix their damn drivers and software. : dudehoyt
  • ^ Everyone laugh at this guy. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • lols... : Alco23
  • LOL. : ryuuseki
  • hahahah there are issues yes, but nothing show stopping as your post suggests. : Milleh
  • Both are terrible. : melt_core
  • LOL. Wake up and smell the coffee, son : master_disaster_17
  • Are you a time traveler from 2002? : TrptJim
  • I swear every thread with ATI has some troll come up with "drivers SUCKED" as in past tense. They work fi... : Iwannaacura
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    Drivers are fine (as far as GPU drivers go), CCC could still use some work though. : one random winner
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      ATI Tray Tools is the way to go here. : Mr. Goodwrench
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        Agreed. Although that's not the "official" tweaking program. : one random winner
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          No, but it is far superior to CCC and I've never had any problems with it. The variety of tweaks and p... : Mr. Goodwrench
          • Hence the "agreed" : one random winner
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            Interesting, never heard of these. Does it let you customize HDTV display settings as well such as over/u... : ieGod
            • It certainly does. The program is updated regularly but has always been in a 'beta' state since 2007, but... : Mr. Goodwrench
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              The ONE thing that I think ATI does unbelievably stupidly is enable a ton of overscan compensation over H... : DinK
              • Nvidia does this too and it's stupid. The worst part is that most Plasma TVs pixel orbiting feature does... : cetra00
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      Agreed. CCC is pretty finnicky. : ieGod
      • -n : ieGod
    • That's why I only install the drivers. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • I bought my first ATi card lately after buying nothing but 3dfx and nVidia for 15 years, and frankly I do... : Geoffrois
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    Same. And before you guys lump me onto the bottom of your Shackpile, I've tried to give ATI a chance ... : synapse19
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      When was the last time you got an ATI card? They have better drivers than they used to. : neokolonial
      • Last year. Switched to at GTX 275 this year when I started working on some more stuff on the side at home... : synapse19
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        Well, to be honest, I haven't used one since my first computer build some 10 years ago. I've been using n... : dudehoyt
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          10 years ago. : Godhatesfatpeople
          • ten. one - zero. : mmogger
        • Give em another shot next go round. I just put a 5000 series card in my machine back in november. It's a... : slickdoody
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          I have been using ATI cards exclusively for the last 7 years maybe and have had zero issues with the card... : mikecyb
          • I too have been using ATI for 5+ years and I haven't had any issues with the drivers. CCC needs some GUI... : deject
        • What was your last ATI card? A Mach 64 PCI? : TwiLyght
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      I had a Radeon 9700pro, no driver issues. I got a new computer, went with an nVidia 7800GTX, and I had se... : ArcKnight
      • That's fantastic. See the last line I wrote. : synapse19
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    This statement is only true now for Linux. : Yanks
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      i thought that recently (the last year or two) their linux drivers had dramatically improved : qwpeoriu
      • They are still pretty much awful as far as I know and support less X and GL extensions. And don't have vi... : Yanks
      • They're better, but they were so bad to begin with that the improvement still doesn't bring them up to pa... : Conan
    • this. They are especially terrible with Wine, which you'll need if you are one of those tards trying to ... : MamiyaOtaru
  • Hello from 2010 time traveller. : noxiousgg
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    You ignorant slut : Mr. Goodwrench
    • hahahahahaha : virus
    • haha nice : Jackass1233
  • I don't own an ATI card myself, but helped a friend install a new card last week. The drivers work just ... : Shadowdane
  • I'm with this guy. I've bought numerous ATi cards every time I cave and decide to try a non-nVidia card a... : node
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    AMD CPUS RUN HOTTER THAN INTEL!!!!oneone Jesus christ people, its been YEARS. Hell, every 6 months the... : YerMothah
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      To be fair, my last problem was a card that melted. I've just never had any luck with ATi. : node
      • Ive had 4 ATi cards, and 5 nVidia cards. Ive had 3 of the nVidias fail, and none of the ATis. Ive had sli... : YerMothah
  • I have a deep seated hatred for the Catalyst control panel. It is an old hatred, stoked in the bosom : Boring Writer
  • lol : lodit
  • there's one of these in every thread. go away and educate yourself : moshman
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    I fucking hated the CCC, but here's to hoping that is fixed!!! : ghost hacker
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      try Tray Tools. Much better than CCC and Nvidia control panel. : Mr. Goodwrench
      • I only have the drivers isntalled for my ATI card, and use the Nvidia panel cause it's my main graphics c... : ghost hacker
  • driver and software bitching is reserved for HP at this time. please try again later. : Downforce
  • You must be from the late 1990's. : Sailor of Fortune
  • Frankly I have had more game specific issues since moving to ATI a few months ago but usually they aren't... : cetra00
  • you are 5 years too late.... : ShadowRam
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    Lolz: Nvidia’s 196.21 driver bug prevents overclocking http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/173... : Visceral Monkey
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      that was fixed... mine overclocks fine with EVga Precision. : Shadowdane
      • Of course the point being, it happened in the first place. But good to know. : Visceral Monkey
    • oh noes it prevented overclocking. at least it didn't cause lockups and crashes like ATI bugs usually do. : yacoub35
  • I've probably owned more nVidia cards than you. A TI drivers are fine. : Jimbo Ro
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    I have the most annoying problem with my 5750 (I had a 8800GTS before, issue never happened w/ that card ... : BongSlayerB
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwRiEryr9EE video of said issue, in case you don't believe me :( : BongSlayerB
      • wow...so I tried using "SnagIt" to capture the problem and though I can see the cursor change on the scre... : BongSlayerB
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      It's a 5000 series problem with Vista 64 and Win 7 64. Upgrade to the latest drivers if you haven't alrea... : Mr. Goodwrench
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        Driver Packaging Version 8.681-091124a-092499C-ATI Catalystâ„¢ Version 09.12 Provider ATI Technol... : BongSlayerB
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          ah, there is a hotfix for this problem, DL'ing now: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/ATICatalys... : BongSlayerB
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            and that fixed it. why they didn't include the hotfix in the regular driver package is beyond me, but it ... : BongSlayerB
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              Probably just something they overlooked or only fixed right after releasing 9.12 : Mr. Goodwrench
              • indeed. I'm now 100% happy with this card now. : BongSlayerB
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  I'll just go ahead and wait on getting that new 5770... : Tawler
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    Actually, if I were going to get a 5770 I'd get it now, of course, I'd also be looking to get an upgrade ... : one random winner
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      The 5830 comes out in a matter of weeks and it's basically a 4890 with DX11 for $230 (?) give or take. : Sailor of Fortune
      • ooh, really? im in the market for a new card in the next month or two here. any reviews you like that y... : yAak
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        Yeah, I don't see that going down until it's got some competition though, and at $239 (last I heard) it's... : one random winner
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          But I do see it bringing the 5770 down at least a bit. And if it's a matter of weeks, I can hold out. : Tawler
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            They way the prices break down though doesn't give ATI much reason to reduce anything at the moment: 5... : Visceral Monkey
            • Thanks for the breakdown, I have some thinking to do. : Tawler
  • my 5770 has had less issues than my old ATI cards used to. i would say their drives have improved, but i'... : yacoub35
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  ATI has their shit together this time around, there is no doubt about it. : Visceral Monkey
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    There always seem to be this cycle between the two companies taking turns. Last time I used nVidia was th... : Sailor of Fortune
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      Yes, one is usually "up" and the other "down". I think ATI is much more on the ball this time around, I'... : Visceral Monkey
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        This next nVidia iteration is gonna be a brute force card (too much power, heat, and probably driver issu... : Sailor of Fortune
        • Exactly. It will be a true Pyrrhic victory in every sense. I have no doubt that the top of the line will ... : Visceral Monkey
  • ATi has been on top since the 4800 series IMO. nVidia hasn't had a real game changer since the 8800gtx. : retarded talking dinosaur
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  Nvidia? I doubt it. From what I've seen about Fermi is nothing revolutionary but sure as hell a huge he... : levente@speakeasy.net
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    Unfortunately, I think those "fundamental changes" will be significantly reduced emphasis or drive. PC g... : walker270
    • i agree the hardware is too far ahead of the software right now, unless you have one of those 30 inch sup... : plat2on1
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      Not sure what games you guys are talking about... 2007 cards playing today's games maxed out? Do you play... : levente@speakeasy.net
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        8800 GT and GTX are 2007 cards. The only game I did not play at 1920x1200 with full options in my 8800... : walker270
        • Apparently you like playing at single-digit frame rates - most of us do not, however. FYI really, they a... : levente@speakeasy.net
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  oh nice, another paper launch ATI? : moshman
  • You surely meant Nvidia, right...? FYI Nvidia's card still nowhere despite all the PR for months now... : levente@speakeasy.net

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  Everyone was correct about Chrono Trigger, wern't they? : Jinxplayer
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    You know, I want to delay my answer on that one until I finish the game, because if I comment on it righ... : Omaha
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      Internet fight! FF 6 vs Chrono Trigger! Thunderdome style. : breadsticks
      • FF6 is probably my favorite snes game. So that one. :P : DM7
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        While I would have to pick FF 6 out of those two, my favorite of all time is still SMRPG, then FF6, then ... : one random winner
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          but but chrono trigger had art made by the dragon ball guy : umegastar
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            Yeah, and that was great and all, as was the gameplay, they're all top tier from the first gaming golden ... : one random winner
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              I should have checked FF6 when I was younger because now I really don't feel the same thing about JRPGs a... : umegastar
              • The thing that shines most is the story, out of the huge cast only two have no story (and they're the ext... : one random winner
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          Mario RPG was fun, wish they'd do a second. Frying Pan ftw! : breadsticks
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            Yeah, I wish Squenix could get their hands on mario again. : one random winner
            • I miss the Square of old :( : breadsticks
      • I always go back and forth on the two. Right now....shit, I think I'm tied. : kelzmelzer
    • If you have any disparaging feelings about CT you're just silly. : ieGod
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      Oh shit, you diddnt even make a comment yet and the inferno has started! : Jinxplayer
      • Inorite, this is why I didn't post [bChrono Trigger]b updates like I did with Demon's Souls. : Omaha
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  Wow, you're in for a treat with Ultima V. It was really fucking dark and solemn. While VI and the two VII... : kramweil
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    Yeah I finished VI and VII way back in the day but I never got through V and I want to. But I want to do... : Omaha
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      PS Ultima VII is the greatest game ever created. : Omaha
      • maybe not the best but it definitely shares the top spot with games like Deus Ex or Planescape Torment. : razorblade79
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        Omaha, I recently tried to play Ultima VII, but man, the random slowdown was weird. I couldn't get the s... : CrustaR
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          Use the Exult engine : kramweil
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            it's too bad exult hasn't been updated since like 2004 :/ : DeBurgo
            • doesn't really matter, it does the job as is : dirge23
      • It certainly deserves a lot of its praise, that's for sure. : The Grolar Bear
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      I miss Shamino and Iolo : mrtony
      • me too : jonin
  • I'd love for these to be released on Steam : ShadowRam
• yeah I could never get very far on it because it had a bug on the version I was playing (Atari ST). now ... : mrtony
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  heh, my oldest is actually Ultima VI. I bought it on ebay a couple years back but never played it. I'd ha... : razorblade79
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    You're doing yourself a disservice. Ultima VI was a great game. Any game where you can spend hours ma... : Omaha
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      ooo... I remember the Armageddon spell. and then you could just walk around and there was nobody alive a... : mrtony
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        It was even better in Ultima VII because there would be a couple of key characters still alive and they w... : Omaha
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          Ultima was really special. there's never really been a series to match it. Elder Scrolls tries to do th... : mrtony
          • prior to release they claimed oblivion would be their attempt to make Ultima 7 in 3d. It's like they stop... : razorblade79
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          i totally missed the two big subtexts in Ultima VII back in the day: 1. the fellowship is scientology 2... : dirge23
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            Elizabeth & Abraham, spherical / cubical / pyramid metamorphing item, also the same forms for a couple pu... : razorblade79
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              ahh, yes, the TNG isle is so ridiculous. there's no reason you ever have to go there in the main plotline... : dirge23
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                No, I think it was a requirement to get something near the end of the game. : Omaha
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                  really? what? : dirge23
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                    I can't remember but for some reason I remember being obliged to go there near the late part of the game. : Omaha
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                      maybe one of the murders is there? i feel like i'd remember that. : dirge23
                      • I want to say that it had something to do with getting to the Isle of the Avatar for the final battle. I... : Omaha
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      there really is a point where I can not overlook dated graphics and controls and U6 really feels clumsy, ... : razorblade79
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        :( humbug : Omaha
        • on the other hand I probably COULD go back to playing some C64 games like Katakis, XOut or Turrican becau... : razorblade79
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  Omaha, you can take the game off of your backlog if it's over 5 years old. * *Except if the game is C : CrustaR
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    Bah! My desire to play a game knows no age limit! : Omaha
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      Exactly, don't listen to him. : ieGod
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        ieGod, you do not have to feel guilty about not completing a game older than 5 years! : CrustaR
        • Who said I feel guilty? It's just on my list! : ieGod
• I get upset talking about my backlog though because that implies that Demon's Souls will have to end, whi... : Omaha
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  Deus Ex. : Clay
  • Same. Bought it recently. And I wish I could play System shock. God knows I tried dozens of solutions ... : zehh
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  I did away with the concept of a 'backlog' last year and I'm totally better off for it. Games aren't mea... : kainen1
  • My backlog consists of games that I want to play. I don't look at them as obligations, I look at them as... : Omaha
  • It's not something I have to do, but I enjoy going through them. I keep a list on rememberthemilk to make... : ieGod
• Okage: Shadow King. 2001ish. I will not take it off my list CrustaR a backlog is a backlog! : ieGod
• Earthbound, which I stopped playing halfway through and didn't finish :S : pyros
• Ultima V as well, and also Planescape:Torment which I have started a few times but never finished. : tashtego
• Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis : beanman101283
• Master of Magic. : The Grolar Bear
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  Max Payne. I'm really jealous that you're going to be playing through Chrono Trigger for the first time. ... : Head Rush
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    I am jealous that you are apparently going to be playing through Max Payne for the first time. : dognose
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      Unfortunately, I doubt Max Payne retains that "Holy Shit" effects, now that so many other games have done... : paulatreus
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        Yeah but it has atmosphere and story that have never been duplicated. Also you get to play the sequel af... : dognose
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          Yeah, the story is fantastic. They did a good job balancing the gameplay with the cinematic elements so t... : paulatreus
          • They actually improved the gameplay with the sequel. Has that happened since? OK yes it has. : dognose
• God of War 2 probably : dael
• Probably Mega Man X 3... Never did beat it. I did finish Mega Man 8 last night, finally! www.backlog... : kallanta
• Xcom and TFTD. I keep playing on and off, but I just get annoyed at terror missions and base assults. : quartic0
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  Zork (j/K), Actually no.. not kidding, I never finished Zork.. Fuck. : Broken Canoe
  • it's not too late! : dirge23
• Planescape: Torment. :( : node
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  HiJack - I feel like there is always a lot of hate for Ultima VIII. Am I one of the few who loved this g... : bigend1an
  • it's not that it was awful, but that it lost so many of the great things about U7 for no apparent reason.... : dirge23
• Life Force and Zelda II. : sevogajre
• All the God of War games since I have never owned a playstation. : handofthrawn
• Metal Gear Solid : mayooms
• fallout 2 or deus ex : bigblack
• Probably Max Payne 1 & 2 - I never finished either, even though I started both. Also Pain Killer black... : virus
• Midway's Greatest Arcade Hits Defender, Joust, Robotron: 2084, Sinistar : sm00v3d
• Stunt Driver on a 5 1/4" floppy (in stunning CGA) still sits on the desk next to my computer. Such a ki... : Dimmona
• Deus Ex, was on the 4th level when it first came out and tried playing it from the beginning (lost my sav... : h o s t i l e
• The oldest game that I actually bought with the intention of playing (not acquired through gifts or hand ... : Iazu
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  Pong. : fugu124
  • You stole my thunder you bastard : themaestro2657
• What emulator are ya using for Ultima V? Commodore128 had music (64 doesnt) :( The PC versions always had... : cygnus
• hmm, crusader: no remorse total annihilation secret of monkey island daggerfall : EvilDolemite
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  Dagger of Amon Ra, an old sierra adventure game. I got stuck at some point and never went back to figure... : GoodBoy
  • I should try to get it working again. XP vm or something. Those old adventure games had beautiful artwo... : GoodBoy
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  Planescape Torment :( : GloriousCow
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    Does anyone know where to legitamitely get a copy of planescape? Without paying moneyhats to some eBay us... : quartic0
    • got mine at a used bookstore : GloriousCow
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  Star Wars: Republic Commando. I had fin playing it, just never finished it. : VectorJKL
  • Such a good game, wish we would get a sequel. : Evil Benius

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• That looks incredibly smooth and well implemented. Seems more solid than MW2 (movement, destructible stuf... : D11ger
• God I want to watch this here at work. :( : MercFox1
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  He carrying an XM8?!? That's awesome! : ShadowRam
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    I thought that program was killed : retarded talking dinosaur
    • It was. Doesn't stop it from being used in games though! : ArcKnight
• fuck yes : eeeealmo
• Holy fuck that looks so fucking awesome. I was looking forward to this, but now I'm thinking of taking a ... : PointlesS76
• Only watched the first 45sec but looked awesome! : atom519
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  The sound is so god damn impressive. : Klebold
  • Yeah, the sound was awesome in BC1 and it seems they've improved for BC2. Good stuff. : Nitrium
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    Agreed. DICE put a lot of effort into good sound. Glad to see some companies doing that. : Fred Garvin
    • Yes especially after the disappointment that MW2 was in the guns department : kill9
    • http://blogs.battlefield.ea.com/battlefield_bad_company/archive/2010/01/22/an-audiophile-s-guide-to-bf-bc... : yAak
  • yes, the gun fire sounds unbelievably good : gmd
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  Nice, that was one of the levels I did (the jungle part one, not the snow one). Feels very odd to see thi... : -efx-
  • nice work :D i liked what i saw of the layout in the jungle area. : yAak
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  Was that the console version, or PC version? : theangrywaffles
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    That was the console version. : -efx-
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      Whats the FOV on the PC version? : Beady
      • Judging by every other multiplatform release, it will be the same. Unless they decide to be the first dev... : pyide
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        http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc/862777-widescreen-support-time-dice-3.htm... : yAak
        • Holy shit fov of 55 on consoles. I knew it was low because I played the beta on the PS3 and it was hard f... : pyide
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    looks like console based on how he moves his view around. : yacoub35
    • Haha, that's why I was asking. Thought I might be finally losing it. : theangrywaffles
  • from the first 10 seconds i can easily confirm that this is the console version : hanged_man
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    Definitely 360. 360 buttons appeared several times in the video. : Talonus.
    • I only watched the very beginning. Can't spoil this game any more for myself. Oh shi- moments will be in-... : theangrywaffles
• That shotgun seems immensely satisfying. : Alice O'Connor
• Wow, this does a LOT more for me than the GameTrailers promo video. Now i'm actually excited about the s... : yAak
• O_O : Godhatesfatpeople
• the voices in the beginning sounded like a bad GWBush impersonator and Michael Scott doing his gangster b... : yacoub35
• hahahahah sliding down the staiirs face-first on fire was kind of win and mucho lol : yacoub35
• God damn the Jeep clusterfuck @ 6:37! : Godhatesfatpeople
• the sounds are out-fucking-standing. : rmjackson
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  I'm going to need a new video card. : filtersweep
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    heh, me too. i figured my 8800 GTS would last longer than this, but it is struggling with my late start ... : yAak
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      Haha. Exactly the card I need to replace. : filtersweep
      • people are talking about a new ATi in the coming weeks, 5830 or something at the $240 price point, thats ... : yAak
      • Lucky! I've got a 7950 (at the time, it was the fastest passively cooled card). : ChibiJosh
    • I'm Spartacus! Same here. Wondering whether to get the new ati or hold out till fermi. : Klebold
    • Yeah this game might push my planned upgrade up a few months. : PointlesS76
  • and a really nice pair headphones. : Klebold
• oh man... i want this!! : Shadowdane
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  System Specs I tried to find anything on their site but couldn't. Anyone know? : eonix
  • http://store.steampowered.com/app/901297/ Scroll to the bottom : yAak
  • Xbox 360. : acheron
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  Jesus, their sound design and engine is so fucking good its scary : Halen
  • The Frostbite Engine is great and they talk about how they handle audio in it: http://www.gametrailers.c... : Sailor of Fortune
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  1. Holy Shit. 2. This game screams for co-op so badly. :( : disdain
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    Seriously! How can they have a game focused on a squad of 4 dudes, with vehicles that have multiple seats... : pyide
    • maybe they originally planned coop and scrapped it early on (not unusual) or... maybe they are planning a : yAak
  • I'd pay for it as DLC even : Sailor of Fortune
• Holy shit you guys with shitty computers are gonna cry when you play this :( : Iwannaacura
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  i wonder if my lowly C2D @ 2.5ghz is going to be enough for this game :( : cltcprd
  • i think the its more about your video card than your cpu power. Min reqs 2ghz our e6750's should be able ... : Iwannaacura
• god damn i want this game. the visuals are incredible and the sound is like sex for your ears : theWhite
• This game is going to kick ass. I need a new video card. : ant_hillbilly
• Friendly SPOILER notice: very very end of video has a notable spoiler event, just stop it ~20 seconds ea... : yAak
• This is cool and all but honestly I don't really care about the single player portion at all. : Begawkiness
• JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. Those gun sounds are spot fucking on. That's the best I have EVER heard bar none. : retarded talking dinosaur
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  Noooooooooooo. The guns are all backwards. Fucking counterstrike!!!!! Why can't this plague die :( : retarded talking dinosaur
  • Huh? : Rotten Deadite
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    What are you talking about? The XM-8 has an ambidextrous charging handle and the ejection port is clearly... : ArcKnight
    • oh god but the shotgun you're right why D: : ArcKnight
    • bullet casings are coming out the left side of the gun when zoomed : retarded talking dinosaur
• What's the multiplayer supposed to be like compared to MW2? : Affliated
• unf!!!!! : Fyunch Click
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  I played in the PS3 beta -- it's like a much less crazy, more thoughtful MW2. blowing a hole in a wall t... : Postal
  • I liked at around 1:50, he hides behind a wooden rail fence which immediately begins vanishing, and he ha... : AxeMan808
• Looks like Crysis a bit! Who do we have to blow to get dismemberment/gibs? : Crabs Jarrard

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• I can't say I'm too thrilled about the Live stuff. I realize it makes us gamers look fickle to complain a... : Conan
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  Sometimes, explaining things more actually ends up making people more confused. I posted on Wednesday ... : dahanese
  • Sounds pretty clear : pancake humper
  • Sounds about right. I guess it's part of the job dealing with these kinds of confusions. : ysbreker
  • selling games to PC gamers is like using arsenic to pull baby elephant teeth : spiderfill
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    Wait, what does GFWL have to do with activating a game? : Goncyn
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      Nothing. You don't need to go online with GFWL if you don't want to - the only time you are required to g... : dahanese
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        I'm not familiar with what you're talking about. What's an SSA key? Are you saying all GFWL live games ca... : Goncyn
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          Over the past week, I have become almost an expert at this. Basically, SSA (server side authorization) ke... : dahanese
          • Thanks. That sort of makes sense. I had no idea there was any such restriction on GFWL. : Goncyn
  • So in other words I can install my Steam copy and play it and have fun with it and not worry about it. S... : mrwolf710
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    There is a guy at my work who claims that he reinstalls Windows, and all his software, every month. So... : CRasterImage
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      I am not entirely sure - you might be fine if your hardware is the same, but I need to check it. I'm actu... : dahanese
      • haha intern torture : StolenNosferatu
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        #1 thank you for testing it, #2 that is hilarious : J4NUS
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          agreed. props to you for running this test : Cheeziologist
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            that's just one test i made him run. he's been running tests for 3 days. on two different computers... : dahanese
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              Would it be possible to get him to test NBA 2K10 for PC? Bought it at launch and still can't find a way t... : Crabs Jarrard
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                you want to PM me? i'll make sure Ronnie responds to you. or email 2KElizabeth (at) 2KGames (dot) com.... : dahanese
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                  Oh man. We could make this man's life a living hell. : Moonbase Commander
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                    Let me guess, you got 2K10 as well? : Crabs Jarrard
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                      Haha, no, but let's as Ronnie to figure out what's wrong with it!!! : Moonbase Commander
                      • ask* : Moonbase Commander
    • it depends on if GFWL is tied to just an install or a hardware profile. if it's a hardware profile (whic... : mikecyb
    • The real question should be is it gonna take him 15 months to finish the game and be done with multiplaye... : mrwolf710
  • you need GFWL even if you buy from steam? why.... : bluewagon
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    No, sometimes including ridiculous loads of DRM ends up making people more confused. Imagine if you could... : Rooster Cockburn
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      You can, indeed, just play the game. : dahanese
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        But not without an Internet connection to install it. Just like the good old days, when I'd throw a casse... : Rooster Cockburn
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          i have to say i do not miss the days where i had to go find my effing game manual and look up the third w... : dahanese
          • How about those old Dungeons & Dragons wheel thingies? Where you had to align a pinwheel to point to a ... : CRasterImage
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  I don't at all care about the gfwl stuff, but I still don't understand what function secureROM has when u... : Cheeziologist
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    So to play this game you have to install steam, gwfl, and securerom? : DJButtButt
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      If you are buying it on Steam, yes. You don't need Steam unless you want it over Steam. Every GFWL ga... : dahanese
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        I'm confused as to why we would need GFWL and/or Steam at all if you do not want them installed. Is it f... : DJButtButt
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          Well, for one, BioShock 2 has multiplayer, and BioShock didn't have that, so that's a big reason for GFWL... : dahanese
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            So is the GFWL integration for online play chosen because it makes for an easier port form the 360? I don... : Crabs Jarrard
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              Also, would there be a better way for us(PC game customers) to give feedback on these issues? I know you ... : Crabs Jarrard
              • No, this is a pretty good place for feedback. You can email me, or you can sign up on the 2K Forums, but ... : dahanese
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              I can't comment on Bioshock specifically, but yes, the ease of having one (or at least two very similar) ... : OverloadUT
              • I guess I should have figured as much. I have noticed that almost all the console ports are GFWL. I do li... : Crabs Jarrard
    • Sounds awesome, yes? I think GTA4 was the worst, though. : aggressor
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      Securom is middleware. You don't install anything. That's like saying you have to "install" the Unreal En... : OverloadUT
      • I enjoy treating it like an STD and taunting people. Like with Borderlands, when the DLC auto-updated : xsoulbrothax
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    steam copy protection isn't considered robust. Not that SecureROM doesn't get cracked wide open, but at ... : GloriousCow
    • The reason a particular copy protection isn't as "robust" is because of the fact that the more shit they ... : ovrlrd
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    Curious about this, too. I don't understand why 2K is using three overlapping systems. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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      Steam isn't included with the game; only if you purchase it via Steam, and it's probably easier for them ... : crummynz
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        It's likely they won't have a single EXE anyway since there would be the Steam version that doesn't inclu... : ovrlrd
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          additionally, EA had no problem releasing a whole bunch of games on steam sans DRM when the normal versio... : Cheeziologist
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            which games are you talking about? i'll add it to my list of things my intern will research i'll look in ... : dahanese
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              Mass Effect, Red Alert 3, Mirror's Edge, Dead Space, and Spore. I'm sure I can find a complete list somew... : Cheeziologist
              • http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/12/ea-games-officially-come-to-steam-sans-drm.ars : Cheeziologist
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                do those go through the EA DL manager? : dahanese
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                  I think it just applies to Steam purchases. : Crabs Jarrard
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                    hm. that seems like it might be for those older releases. ME2 i believe has you register and go through t : dahanese
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                      Not having the actual game yet, I can't comment. But I've already pre-loaded the entire game through Stea... : Cheeziologist
                      • yeah, i don't know. i don't think they explain it up front from my google searching what that means. it m... : dahanese
                    • If it's anything like Dragon Age, the EA account thing is an implemented-in-game type thing. You have to ... : OverloadUT
                • no : Cheeziologist
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        Thats fine, but why include SecuROM on a digital distribution copy? There's no disc to check for. : Robotic Puppy Eater
        • SecurROM PA is designed around online activation, not cd checks : GloriousCow
  • Think of Securom as a "dumb game company executive pacifier mechanism". That's its only real purpose. : mrwolf710
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  What advantage does GFWL for matchmaking over Steamworks? Is it that the Steam solution blows for non-Sou... : Crabs Jarrard
  • Steamworks alienates every online distributer besides Steam. : capt tripps
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    Steamworks means you MUST use Steam. That can cause a lot of issues. : OverloadUT
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      I still don't see how forcing the use of Steam is worse than forcing the use of GFWL (for online play). : ovrlrd
      • It's different. GFWL is just middleware. It's there on top of your game, but it's not like you install it... : OverloadUT
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  Haha, they called you a ROBOLADY. That's awesome. You should SHOOT EYE LASERS. : Rice-Rocketeer
  • i noticed that! it's almost as bad as being called PR! : dahanese
• wasn't really interested in it at all so it's not like it's a big loss : free2game365

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  we killed festergut on 10-man last night with 5 seconds to spare on the enrage timer. it was fairly chal... : electroly
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    With the ooze the biggest thing we had to learn was to be patient. Don't run out to the kiting tank or hu... : InfoBiter
    • We got him to 18% then he vanished last night on 25man :( That was our best attempt all week, first time ... : YerMothah
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      we keep having bad luck with all the healers getting the infection consecutively. it's happened every si... : electroly
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        I can see that being an issue in 10 man =\ (I haven't done much in the way of 10 man ICC, ran a few pugs, : InfoBiter
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          we have no shaman :-( someone mentioned that last night... if we had bloodlust we might've had it. do... : electroly
          • s/festergut/rotface : electroly
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            =( Get a shaman :-( I generally don't worry too much about class balance; but until your dps outgears th : InfoBiter
            • if you haven't read anything about it, then i'm sure it's untrue. people in my guild have a history of b : electroly
          • Bloodlust is so overpowered. I love it. I wish half our guild's DPS wasnt friggin retarded and incapab... : YerMothah
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            Did someone say shaman? : D45hiz
            • YES. we need fortyshocks!!!!! : electroly
• the button was awesome but now it takes 15 minutes to trigger : spiderfill
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  Arthas isn't fightable yet, right? I'd like to see the story when he falls. :( : DM7
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    Not yet. Soon. Also the story has been leaked ... I won't post it because it is a pretty huge spoiler... : InfoBiter
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      link? : royalally
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        Major spoilers here: http://www.mmo-champion.com/news-2/icecrown-citadel-the-lich-king/ : Haxim
        • Nice, thanks. Just found it too. : royalally
  • Next week, apparently. : walker270
  • Yea I need to check out the spoilers. I just turned 80 and it will be forever before I can actually see i... : jonin
• Having read some of the spoilers for the Arthas fight, I'm actually interested to see how it unfolds... ... : walker270
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  As an elemental shaman, my feelings about ICC so far are less than favorable. Most of the fights aren't t : daneloire
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    Elemental Shaman need some love that's for sure. I raid on my mage and I run into similar issues but at l... : InfoBiter
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      oh jesus you have to use blink while raiding now? I need to delete my character : Downforce
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        Say what? I love blink! : InfoBiter
        • blink is fucked it's like playing with your monitor off. WHO KNOWS what's going to happen! it's the r... : Downforce
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        all you need is three buttons: 1: Conjure Mana Strudel 2: Ritual of Refreshment 3: Portal to Dalaran : electroly
        • lol, I remember when this was true ... and I rolled a resto shaman. These days though Mages are prett... : InfoBiter
  • Yeah my brother plays elemental shaman, and he complains that movement fights such as Festergut really ki... : atom519
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    I'd really like to see Blizz take a page from Warhammer's book, and while retaining the need for a castba... : Entity
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      that would be awesome. as a holy paladin, movement-heavy fights make me die a little inside :( : electroly
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        The only character I do not a lot of experience on is a Shaman. I've now got a pretty well geared holy pa... : Entity
        • it's pretty terrible. the best you can do is a Holy Shock and hope it crits for the followup instant Fla... : electroly
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  I still can't believe I've played WoW off and on since it first came out and i don't yet have a character... : phate81
  • lols damn, and I thought I was bad. :) : jonin
  • same here, except for a lvl 80 DK.. but that's kinda cheating.. : g0nk
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    How do you even do this? =\ I have probably played for 2 years total of the 5 years it's been out (I ... : InfoBiter
    • Lots and lots of low level characters. I'm not as bad as my wife though, she's been playing non-stop for ... : phate81
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  I got back after a 10 month break by using the 7 free days last week. I logged in three or four times, di... : Bamii
  • Haha same thing happened to me. Everytime I fall off the wagon and go back I last short and shorter durat... : KxRook
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  Not even thinking of WoW until Cataclysm is out. I enjoy playing through the expansions, but soon after ... : pigvomit
  • This has generally been my feelings as well. I got lucky and found a guild that works with my schedule an... : InfoBiter
  • This, I've always just leveled up and them quit at the cap. There's nothing appealing to me about running... : Zek
• Don't forget hard modes. Bosses are easy now so everyone can have a chance to experience (and conquer) t... : sublime
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  our group sucks and can't get more than Festergut down on 10-man. we also wiped a bunch of times to the ... : Majuju
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    if only one of your tanks is stoned you're doing pretty well : electroly
    • the other one is incompetent and sober :( : Majuju
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  I love playing pug bingo (http://www.wow.com/2009/12/28/dungeon-finder-bingo/). I've always enjoyed pugs ... : drhazard
  • The link should be http://www.wow.com/2009/12/28/dungeon-finder-bingo/ sans parentheses, stupid parsing. : drhazard
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    Ok this pugbingo is great. Although luckily I haven't really seen players leave unless there was some dra... : Chod
    • True, as most dungeons are short, it's not a problem all the time. However, if the DPS isn't super-amazin... : drhazard
• It is definitely easy, but I think heroic is where the challenge for higher end guilds will be. : dmaownsyou
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  Not much I can say about ICC as I've hardly tried it so far, although I've always said comments about the... : -JLN-
  • The only issue with creating a 'looking for raid' setup, is that raids take more time and (aside from you... : Entity
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  I love that from start to end, Icecrown is a progressing storyline. I like the boss fights, as they're le... : Entity
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    Youre a goddamned machine man. I wish I could play this much :( I miss it all. also, LOL @ "that is... : Phil
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      Sad times when Jadaxdots the warlock significantly outgears Philshack :( : Entity
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        haha Jadaxdots. THE PEOPLE'S DOTTER! (hawt) : Phil
        • Of course, much like the irony of Jadaxtank (level 80 DPS warrior) and Jadaxhealz (Shadow priest, also DP... : Entity
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  Unrelated to ICC but RankWatch has become my new favorite addon. I just love being in pugs where it start... : Chod
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    I got busted by rankwatch on my warlock :( I hadn't played it for ages and when I'd dualspecced, I didn'... : Entity
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      On the plus side though it hopefully is helping people realize they have the wrong rank. I know there wer... : Chod
      • it's a great addon. maybe a little embarrassing when it happens to you, but it's better to know so you c... : electroly
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    to be fair, the dual spec feature pretty much guarantees you're going to use the wrong rank of the spell ... : electroly
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      some of us remember things : Zek
      • well, obviously you have to know to do it, first. since they got rid of downranking ages ago, nobody che... : electroly
• Glad to hear it to be honest. I've been out of raiding or WoW at all for months but think I might resub i... : node
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  Well I dont raid anymore but in premise the airship batttle sounded a bit innovative for blizz but watchi... : mcpstoner
  • you know you can buy stacks of badges by shift clicking on them, right? : captfarrell
  • You do know you're supposed to put at least one space after your periods, right? : Rotten Deadite
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  Honestly, I'm a big fan of the ToC style. Trash is either a major annoyance (if it's difficult) or glorif... : Felraiser
  • I think it is okay to have 'easier' bosses that you can get gear from to defeat the 'hard' bosses. : TreMetal
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    I don't know... I like the general feel of most of the Nothrend dungeons but things like Halls of Reflect... : Rotten Deadite
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  • lol "useyourtrinket" tag : electroly
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  Must be nice to be in a higher end raid guild so you can come here and talk about how easy ICC is. We'... : jayacheess
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    I'd personally classify ICC as "fucking hard". My heart is racing if we get to two marks on Saurfang and... : electroly
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      • This on your paladin? You can stun the blood beasts. Should give your dps enough to time to save your ass... : InfoBiter

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  Karnov. Fucking Karnov! >.< : Cihte
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    no fucking way you beat that game : oHnOES
    • I did. It said "Congratulations" at the end. : Cihte
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  Half-Life 2 : indosauros
  • Absolutely. : alexpr
  • Any Half-Life game released so far. : the archvile
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  Fable II, yes. I haven't be DA:O or Borderlands yet, so I can't speak on them. Other terrible endings:... : ArcKnight
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    Damnit that's the second time I accidentally tagged a post D: Well my vote is going to be Crysis. : Malku
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      You can untag now! : ArcKnight
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        How D:?! : Malku
        • Go to the LOL page and stuff you've LOL'd, and you can click on the [ L O L ' D ] on the left and it will... : ArcKnight
• Crysis : SockMonkeh
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  Roger Rabbit and/or Ghostbusters on the NES. : guido anchovy
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    you mean to say that you actually beat Roger Rabbit!?!? I always assumed it had no ending because Judge D... : SolveChrist
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      I got into a rhythm of super punching him and somehow avoided dying. Basically it ends immediately after... : guido anchovy
      • ROFL! : RikiTiki2
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        Imagine the blue guy in this pic being judge doom and me constantly pounding him into the wall: http://dl... : guido anchovy
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          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-BMcc9B1E0 : RikiTiki2
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            Yeah, once you get into a rhythm you can beat the hell out him. : guido anchovy
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              Just before the Fist of the North Star part: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-BMcc9B1E0#t=05m31s : guido anchovy
              • I forgot you had to spray the dip on Doom! I do remember him coming back at you if you didn't. : guido anchovy
        • god that was so much fun. : SolveChrist
• Mario 2 : ass-street
• tetris : umegastar
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  Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault : Serpico74
  • Still remember this one! : crummynz
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    I had a co-worker beat that game on Hard and destroyed his mouse in the process. When the ending came he... : djustifier
    • I thought he was going to throw the mouse at me. : acheron
  • This is it. Did everyone involved just quit? : TShandy
  • and yet that ending was roughly 10 minutes longer than the ending for the first Medal of Honor. : roushimsx
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    The End. "Bwuh?" <-- My exact reaction. : Wyvern
    • I laughed my ass off when "THE END" popped up, there was no other appropriate reaction : Serpico74
• FarCry 2 and every Syphon Filter game. : rotten element
• arkham asylum : peat
• Mario 64. I got all 120 stars for this? : Crabs Jarrard
• name any NES game that wasn't Ninja Gaiden : RikiTiki2
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  Mario 2. it was all a dream! : SolveChrist
  • yes! fuck that shit!! : ass-street
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  Halo 2. This thread should be best game endings, because most games have unsatisfying endings. : Grimp
  • Oh god, I don't know how I forgot this. Probably because I blocked it from my memory. I was over at a ... : ArcKnight
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    In that case, MGS3 : Dschinghis Khan
    • Mass Effect 1 had a great ending - and the best credits, bar none. : ArcKnight
  • oh god halo 2 is by far the worst ending ever in a game : but why
• NES Rygar because that game was hard as shit and I didn't even get a congratu-fucking-lations. This is al... : uglysad
• Pretty much any game that required you to loop it multiple times just to get a "The End". Like Commando. ... : roushimsx
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  Borderlands. Fuck that shit. : ateam311
  • haha, it was so ridiculously stupid. : MagicWishMonkey
• Surprisingly all three of your choices are pretty recently-released games. Have you been gaming for a lo : hussdelrio
• Fable II's end-boss suckage far annihilates the suckage of Borderlands, which itself annihilates the end- : xsoulbrothax
• Super Double Dragon for the SNES. As soon as you beat the end boss, screen goes black and The End pops up... : MrMeanGuy
• Looking at this thread, it seems anything with a 2 after it sucks. : PointlesS76
• Fable 2's ending was hilarious and well done, you suck Borderlands however was awful : locater16
• I disagree with you on Fable II only because it Then lets you wander, potentially living with the repercu : Fayk
• Black. Final room, no boss present. Just walk through the door, get a cut-scene. Very obvious that the... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
• Bioshock's ending was pretty bad : dirge23
• noone played it but the 3d bionic commando had a stupid ending, it was all artsy and weird : Chandler55
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  Crystalis! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVwtamkA1eY#t=2m52s : helvetica
  • God that game kicked some serious ass. : kagath
• Jade Empire. Everything from sexing it up in the tent onwards. I played as evil and was thoroughly disapp... : Borzoi
• The ending of Dragon Age is not the boss fight. It is the conclusion of the story based on your choices.... : Moonbase Commander
• i'm sorry but borderlands easily takes that cake. the ending wasnt so much bad (many games have abrupt en... : theWhite

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  I cancelled my preorder. I am lt. cmd 9 and already it has turned in to nothing but a grind fest. : Crimsonbeak
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    Really? No more interesting missions? : Nitrium
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      Maybe I missed a quest giver or something but I think I only had like 1 quest left that I didn't due that... : Crimsonbeak
      • pretty sure you were going it wrong. : theWhite
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    hmm. i got 5 levels past you without ever doing the repeatable quests or grinding mobs for XP. : smax
    • You hear this about every new MMO released. : Ellissd
    • I made new chars and didn't really get bored with doing the same things over. Now in Champions Online i m... : Ziz
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    Yea, I think you might have missed something, because this is one of the few MMOs I have played that avoi... : amrbean
    • I agree; there's really very little of it. Plus in my opinion the game doesn't really kick off until lev... : Rotten Deadite
  • Welcome to the world of MMO! It's still a lot of fun, regardless. : Wolfanoz
  • Yeah unfortunately the high LTC missions and most of Commander only occur once every couple of levels, so... : Xevo
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  I finally went back to Sol and put some upgrades in my ship that I got during missions. Why did I wait s... : amrbean
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    U key for equip screen. there are tabs for character/ships/BOs on the left. you can equip items on ... : smax
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      Well fuck. Can you only "buy" officers while at Sol? : amrbean
      • yeah but i dont think i've ever had to. you get ALOT of officers from quests. though the skill vendor i... : smax
    • also you get more inventory slots when you gain a rank. if your inventory becomes full you can sell stuf... : smax
  • You can customize your ship by hitting 'u' and selecting your ship. : mathyou
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  I'm not playing until launch. What time on Friday does head start access begin? : DonkeyPopsicle
  • There's no official confirmation yet. : Nitrium
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  Every time I start this game up, my computer explodes... Monitors go blank, fans kick into high gear, onl... : Clasifyd
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    Kirk hates you. : Nitrium
    • For real... but Spock is my homeboy! : Clasifyd
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  Rear admiral observations. The end ships the 2 of the 3 I have bought are horribly unbalanced. Star Cruis... : massdev
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    Cool, thanks for the info. Yeah, I saw some people complaining about the high-end cruisers and their powe... : Nitrium
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      Seems like something that should have been worked out in the closed beta. : trove
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        They've said the improvement in ship tiers scales down as you go up, so wanting the elite uber ship at en... : zen2k
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          I guess I'm confused about where they are going with this game. You don't lose ships in combat, so event... : trove
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            You can only own 6 ships max. I had to kill my noob ship. The top tier ships are actually really cheap 24... : massdev
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              Crew replacement costs will probably end up being a significant money sink then. : trove
              • top tier escort has 200 crew who are more likely to die. top tier cruiser has 1000. Even with its awesome... : massdev
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            To me, it's like Guild Wars in space, especially fitting the ships with your bridge officers to determine... : zen2k
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              I have 2 purple boffs (very rare) that give me a couple of level 3 abilities. One is a Klingon Tactical o... : massdev
              • That's scramble sensors, jam sensors is the one that keeps the ship from firing on you. : Xevo
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    so in less than 2 weeks of beta, you have 2 of the 3 best ships already. Why are people shelling out $24... : retardhumper
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      While I cannot defend a lifetime subscription, there is more to MMOs then leveling to the highest level. : amrbean
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        you mean the end game grind and 6+ hour raids? Thats the shittiest part of MMOs : retardhumper
        • and since this game has a skill cap, there will be no point in grinding, so there is PVPing I guess : retardhumper
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        Not this one. There is nothing else to do. : serenj
        • Listen to this expert who has seen all the end-game content in all 4 factions! : Xevo
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      It was about 4 days probably 40hrs tops. Bunny and Rep did it in less time. I have 3 of the 6 best ships,... : massdev
      • 40 hours over 4 days doesnt seem a lot to you? that's a work week : cptstern
  • Well this can all change as the game grows. : jedi_27
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    did you say "pedos"? : deveus1
    • several times; pedos LOS... SCHNELL : massdev
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    How did you have enough time to get that far? That's like Clapton's Heroin Years levels of not going outs... : Rauol Duke
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      They sped up leveling in the Beta. : Rotten Deadite
      • Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh..... I only got to play a couple times after that big patch. : Rauol Duke
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        Tell me it's not going to take 2x as long to get our second ship. : jedi_27
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          yeah I think he's wrong. Plus, if quests give out less rewards or levels are made longer, then there DEFI... : Xevo
          • Warning: Cryptic did exactly this with CO. They had content that fit a certain leveling pace and then in... : Lucien Irenicus
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  I am still going to get it. But realy want more info on the romulans and cards. When do we get to play as... : jedi_27
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    Oh and the fact that we can't play the joined trills in the early start is pissing me off. : jedi_27
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      I think its bullshit they refuse to do anything about it. The character you headstart with could EASILY b... : massdev
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        It makes no sense as to why it's not there from day 1. What kind of agreement could they have made to pre... : jedi_27
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          The issue is the pre-order Joined Trill bonus is tied to the retail key, which you don't get until Feb 2n... : JohnnyRey
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            And which key are we using on Friday/Saturday for the early access???? : jedi_27
            • the pre-order key. If you have STO pre-order on your account page, you're good to go. : Xevo
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            Why don't you use the head start to just unlock your Klingon character, play that, and then go back and m... : hbalce1
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              Maybe. Is there any value in having a federation enginner and tactical officer?? : jedi_27
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                Different careers give different ground options. No difference in space afaik. : hbalce1
                • different space skills as well. : JuffoWup
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              Because you got to be level 6 or do the Stop the Signal quest? : Nitrium
              • never mind, stupid mondays : Nitrium
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          Take a look at this http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?p=1665494#post1665494 : Nitrium
          • The Joined Trill thing is still annoying. Those perks are strictly better than any other starting race ou... : Xevo
  • For all my criticism, I've edged more to maybe playing for a month or two. It appears to be casual frien... : trove
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    I want to be on whatever side kills your side. : Rauol Duke
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      Luv u. : jedi_27
      • >:^* : Rauol Duke
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  Just bought it off Steam, look forward to the TOS uniforms, the emotes etc. I still wonder if i'll get my... : Ziz
  • I have two as well. I have a bad feeling about this :( : jedi_27
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    Your retail and pre-order keys need to match to get the bonus content. Pre-order is just for the early st... : Xevo
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      I don't get it. Why are there two different keys? Shouldn't they be the same if, say, I pre-ordered it ... : DonkeyPopsicle
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        He used two different pre-order keys, and they act as different pre-orders since they're tied to differen... : Xevo
        • oic : DonkeyPopsicle
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      Aw that sucks, though this phaser rifle sounds kinda like a cheat "this unique design has been modified w... : Ziz
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        Wallhax! That sounds annoying as fuck in PvP. : Xevo
        • probably has crap for damage : RikiTiki2
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      I'm hoping that just the retail need to be there to unlock pre-order stuff - I gave away my "open beta" k... : Jonathan
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        ...nope, as I understand, you need both the pre-order and retail key for it to count, otherwise it just a... : Xevo
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          because I already had access to the open beta from the closed beta. : Jonathan
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            to be fair, I also almost gave mine away, until people mentioned that they were tied to getting the retai... : Xevo
            • Ah well if it's true I'll just raise another support ticket. : Jonathan
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              I coulda gotten $5 off at Target, but just the phaser rifle. But with Steam i get the TOS uniforms, extra... : Ziz
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                My only annoyance is that we can't start the game with our Joined Trill characters on the head start week... : Xevo
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                  Oh didn't know that. Will we get our other stuff for the head start? : Ziz
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                    Nope. Until you enter your retail key, which we won't get until Feb. 2, none of the pre-order incentives ... : Xevo
                    • Ah, yeah that sucks. : Ziz
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                Honestly I think the playable Borg is dumb. Just odd. Why would a Borg ever be allowed to captain a fed s... : jedi_27
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                  you mean like picard? : JuffoWup
                  • Who totally kept his implants and had access to all his old abilities and the Collective still. : Xevo
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                  It takes place in the future. Borg can even vote now. racist. : DarkWolf5
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                    Can these Borg join the Klingon empire???????!!!!!! : jedi_27
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                      Klingons don't rescue Borg, they kill them and eat them. : WhatIsThisFor
                      • There's a borgish vendor on Qo'nos. : hbalce1
                    • yes. For fed, they'll be humans. For Klingons, they'll be klingon borgs. The joined trill can also be ... : JuffoWup
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                    Too bad they always vote for one party. : trove
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                      Just like Southern Republicans! : Xevo
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                        who used to be Southern Democrats : RikiTiki2
                        • let's just settle for Southern non-urban whites! : Xevo
            • There's a slight flaw in that plan now that I think of it. Amazon only gave out one pre-order key for mul... : Jonathan
    • Hmmm. That makes sense. : jedi_27
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  I'd be happy just if their was TOS phasers in the game. I kept looking for em at any weapons store but ne... : Ziz
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    The only reason there are old uniforms is because people are allowed to wear whatever they want in the st... : Xevo
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      TOS and Voyager are my favorite. And the TOS phasers are still my favorite Star Trek weapons. : Ziz
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        There have been a couple of people I've seen asking about them, but again it doesn't really make sense fr... : Xevo
        • They could be Star Trek Throwback branded items. : trove
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  Since tonight's the last full night, we should get everyone into the same borg hunt instance, or somethin... : zen2k
  • I would definitely be down for that, and would be available at that time. Although I fear we will have to... : Xevo
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  I've decided I will be buying this (as soon as I get a job and have money again). I'm not usually an MMO ... : thetangent
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    I agree. I came into the beta not expecting much, and after getting to play with the Tier 2 ships I put d... : Xevo
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      and then you played with the tier 3 ships! >:D : xsoulbrothax
      • and very soon the Tier 4 ones =D : Xevo
    • I really love my Tier 2 Cruiser. It's so pretty - I'm going to miss it while I'm looking for work. :( : thetangent
  • I'm holding off until I hear details about their alleged post-launch content update : RikiTiki2
  • I'm considering doing this. I've never been okay with subscription fees, but I am enjoying this quite a ... : mathyou
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  I had to uninstall it in order to fit my ME2 preload from Impulse. : Sailor of Fortune
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    Which is perfect timing. We have one week to beat ME2! : chungathebunga
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      only if you didn't pre-order and aren't playing in the head start weekend starting this Friday. : Xevo
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        During which I will be out of town. OF COURSE. : Rotten Deadite
        • on the plus side, if you got a Digital Deluxe edition, you'll be able to start a Federation Joined Trill ... : Xevo
        • But you can then start a trill char with me and xevo! : Nitrium
  • I did the same, just different game. I got the BC2 pre-order. : tboomer2
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  • when did you play it? there was a big patch a last week that pushed the polish a lot further : RikiTiki2
  • I agree, but its also fucking awesome, even in its unfinished state. sooo...yeah. : JohnnyRey
  • It's obvious it is being rushed, but I think the game is quite polished having being developed in so litt... : Nitrium
  • I agree with the above people that you probably haven't played since they overhauled the UI and made the ... : Xevo
  • They have made a ton of improvements in a very short time (less than two weeks). At this rate, I doubt i... : WhatIsThisFor
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  iirc the action is continuous from there through the end of the freeway scene for like 20 solid minutes, ... : dirge23
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    The freeway scene was one of my favorites in the entire trilogy. : amrbean
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      this is one of the best action sequences in movies ever : dirge23
      • IMHO they choked at the end with the uzi. How much more badass would it have been if he ended it with a ... : genom
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        agreed, especially with the music! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaBefjx_RQw : dewdman
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          "Mona Lisa Overdrive". i always used this on my custom GTA soundtracks. : dirge23
          • This is a great driving song. Downside: it's too easy to speed. : ruckboos
      • I take it you don't watch a lot of kung fu movies : rob-o-cop
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  Worst one is the playground fight scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVifbMwEDlY I can't stand h... : synapse19
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    the CG is so obvious here, it's terrible. : dirge23
    • They need to George Lucas it up : aggressor
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      it wasnt at the time, it was fantastic. weird how things change : oHnOES
      • even when it was new it was really cartoony to me. : dirge23
      • no dude, it always looked like Gumby Neo, Rubber Keanu : Slowtreme
      • There are slight pauses here and there as the stuntmen wait their turn to fight. : TwiLyght
      • It wasn't good enough even back then. : moe6
      • well you guys suck, i liked it back then. now it looks cheap. : oHnOES
      • as the other guys said, it was always bad : synapse19
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        It always looked fantastic to me. Where exactly is the obvious change? Is it where he gets the pole? : crummynz
        • iirc there's a part where neo jumps in the air and then the camera circles him and it's clearly, clearly ... : dirge23
      • Really? I saw it opening night and it was so bad it made me want to kick puppies. I was pissed when I w... : Ormsbee
      • no, it was always crap : Halen
      • No, it was terrible back then, and we discussed ad nauseum how bad the CG was in that scene. I couldn't f... : Bold
      • Nah, I could tell it was terrible even then. Blecth : locater16
      • from 3:25 on looks completely fake :/ : GloriousCow
      • no uh : shirif
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    i hate that scene, yet it got so much love (especially here). horrible horrible horrible : Slowtreme
    • lol. : jonin
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      Single worst scene of all the movies: Zion party scene. : thetangent
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        I liked that scene. : pimpium
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          It should've been a giant orgy. : one random winner
          • It was probably happening. They were celebrating after all. : pimpium
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    Blade II had a fight scene that looked worst than that and it was 1 on 1. It's near the end http://ww... : grabbie
    • Shitty CGI starts @ 1minute : aggressor
    • goddammit i hate these movies : MrBig0
    • haha i remember seeing that in the theatre and cringing : synapse19
    • Haha, holy shit, that went from bad to cringeworthy. : ShekkyBoy
  • The parody of that in the MTV movie awards was hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfv-S5iZlf4 : Sailor of Fortune
  • This was the special edition version of that fight, way better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvEibGgp-G... : Sovos
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    Ugh, no. Just like Avatar, nothing is real so I don't feel anything towards what's happening on the scree... : Super Sparker
    • What? When there's a complete disconnect from one cut to the next during the same sequence there's defini... : synapse19
• the one where nerds battle the rest of the trilogy : Audhuml4
• Matrix to be re-released in 3D! : pimpium
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  I think I have to go with Neo Vs. Smith in the subway. Probably partly because there is so much riding on... : Ctrl-Phreak
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    Agreed. Best fight scene ever. The choreography was fantastic and there were some serious badassisms. : Bamtan
    • "I'm going to enjoy watching you die, Mister Anderson." : Arcanum
    • The paper rolling by like a tumbleweed and the brief old west music set the tone so perfectly. "This isn... : Begawkiness
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      Yeah, I also think it's easily the best in terms of choreography as well. There are a few contenders for ... : Ctrl-Phreak
      • Agreed, in fact, I'd probably put them in that exact order. : one random winner
    • You hear that, Mr. Anderson? THAT is the sound of...inevitability. : thetangent
  • This gets my vote. : funnynamehere
  • Yep, easily. Nothing in the rest of the trilogy comes close. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zIJCpUqe... : Begawkiness
  • Agreed, for the same reasons you cited. That first movie was so epic. : Rasnowl
• lol @ mace in face. : Klebold
• Reloaded is the most stylish one in the series. It's too bad it was the beginning of the end for that tri... : ieGod
• I really liked the music in that part. : Sailor of Fortune
• Fuck, you're gonna make me put in the HD DVD just to watch that scene through to the freeway chase. : Prozium
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  I watched the animatrix again yesterday. Some of them are much better than the 2nd and 3rd movie. : razlebol
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    I still think the Matrix universe still has life left in it if they did a live action Second Renaissance : Lunatic Angelic
    • It pretty much died when Morpheus was set up the bomb in The Matrix Online : Sailor of Fortune
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    There was no second and third matrix movie. I disbelieve. : uglysad
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      I wish this was true :( : razlebol
      • I take this stance on a few other movies too. Cinema is awesome in my world. : uglysad
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  The fight between Morpheus and Neo in the dojo is definitely my favorite. : h o s t i l e
  • You think that's air you're breathing now? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC11PlDGJvU : Slowtreme
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  I liked the fight for Zion with all the mechs and shit. But I'm always a sucker for impossible odds battl... : Blackdawgg
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    i just remember comparing this battle to the battles in LOTR and being totally underwhelmed : dirge23
    • LOTR had great battles but once one was over you knew there was probably an hour or more of nothing happe... : Blackdawgg
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  Why is Jake Sully the 6th Toruk Makto and Neo the 6th savior? : noobja
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    Why does a turkey melt at McAllister's cost $6.66? : omnova
    • How exactly does the posi-track rear end on a Plymouth work? : royalally
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  sort of hijack. This is the best fight scene ever: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHJM5ZS4dmQ : Fredrik S
  • They Live would like a word with you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqKFadyJxwg : dirge23
• if its not something from the first movie its the wrong answer : GloriousCow
• is this the decade all the matrix dorks are going to come back out of the woodwork after being shoved int... : DeBurgo
• Bruce Leroy vs Shonuff http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxF2ouw8NJ0 The Shogun... of Harlem. : stonedonkey
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  Yeah, the Chateau scene was a really good one. I subway fight between Neo and Agent Smith in the first on... : thetangent
  • THE subway fight, not "I". :-P : thetangent
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  This is my favorite...in a movie where CGI and impossible movements were taking center stage, this fight ... : flagg209
  • Great fight, but I always thought it was a little strange that neither of them lands a single blow in the... : thetangent
• One of my all-time favorite fight scenes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p2YmjZ6FRY : funnynamehere
• freeway for sure : mindshot
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  I still love the helicopter rescue. The final bit where he grabs the guy line, trinity grabs the other en... : edgewise
  • that was an iconic scene and much better than the OP, no offense intended. good choice. : PlanetPerfecto
• without question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h5YmbhpI5c : Veegeezee
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  HATED the choreography in both sequels. Overly digital, "whooshy", stylized, non-violent "combat" with te... : locater16
  • Two completely different movies. Bourne has a realistic veneer. Adding lots of over the top foley effec... : bipolar
• HAHAHA, why do they have to add those stupid *zingy* sound effects to his every movement? Like I need to ... : Tawler
• 'Chateu' completely makes that scene. That and 'Clubbed to Death' are such epicly cinematic songs. : bipolar
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  they never friggin' attack at the same time : Cihte
  • they're just being very polite : PlanetPerfecto
• It's not the best, but I enjoyed Morpheus v Agent Smith, short but sweet. http://www.youtube.com/watch... : tbreffni

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  In 1980, 16 shipwrecked Danish fishermen were hauled to safety after an hour and a half in the frigid Nor : MagicWishMonkey
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    Sounds like a great story. : trove
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      What the article doesn't mention is they drank a big cup of hot poison. : MagicWishMonkey
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        Haha. Well it just doesn't pass the smell test. Did 16 Danish fishermen from a single wreck die from... : trove
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          Yea, I agree with that, but I thought the rest of the article was really interesting. : MagicWishMonkey
          • I agree. I just have this intense desire to destroy all authority. BTW, I think I found one of the so... : trove
        • a good fable has no need for historical accuracy : electroly
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          Surely a "hot drink" after such prolonged exposure is going to fuck with your body severely due to the te... : node
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            yep. this. shock. : PlanetPerfecto
            • According to the article it could cause you to go into cardiac arrest. : MagicWishMonkey
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          I could see that happening. The shock of going from extreme cold and wet waters to a very warm cabin wit... : DHAvatar
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            All 16 presumably health men, after spending an hour and half in the water, climbed up a cargo net out of... : trove
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              They were better known as the Danish Synchronized Coffee Drinking Team. : DapperDan
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                It could have been soup. WE DON'T HAVE THE ORIGINAL SOURCE MAN! : trove
                • mind = bottled : DapperDan
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              After an hour and a half in the North Sea, where it was likely about 50 degrees Fahrenheit? It's complete... : woddemandred
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                Yeah, and "healthy men" are actually more vulnerable to hypothermia than individuals with a thicker fat l... : Arcanum
                • I'm really not arguing the mechanics of hypothermia or afterdrop or how could the North sea can be. : trove
                • Oh shit... I'm a skinny bastard. I'm dead if the Day After Tomorrow comes true! : kagath
            • Sometimes, the truth is stranger than fiction. It's highly improbably sure, but it's is possible. Also,... : DHAvatar
            • in my opinion of absolutely no scientific basis THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE : dahanese
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          But they died after rescue, and wasn't that the point? : woddemandred
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            I would consider the point being that even after rescue people suffering from hypothermia need to be brou... : trove
            • I think you overreact. It's not knowledge that is as common as it should be, and in fact, it's knowledge ... : woddemandred
        • I want to know how they made 16 hot drinks so quickly. : Beady
    • I'd watch that movie. : AMikaboshi
  • wahhh? thats intense. : chilln
• This is frightening. I'm glad I live in a relatively warm climate. : giant boy detective
• good read : trOmblyj
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  i always think about that story of the one guy and his family who got lost in the Oregon wilderness up th... : redfive
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    That sounds shitty, not sure if I've heard of that. Did it happen a few years ago? I remember some guy... : MagicWishMonkey
    • That's the one he's talking about, I think. It was pretty sad :( : king_darius
    • It seemed like it happened only a couple years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Kim : trove
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      Yea and his family got rescued. All he had to do was stay in the car and wait. : Edges
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        It had been nearly a week, they had no food, and no contact with the outside world. Yes, in hindsight he... : filtersweep
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          How's his wife and kids doing? You still keep in touch with them? I know I would have found it very very ... : sigpro
          • They're doing well. Obviously it's not something you ever forget, but they're moving forward with their ... : filtersweep
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          I would have left too. Unquestionably. : edgewise
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            Same here. Kids get cranky when hungry and the wife was probably nagging pretty hard. : uglysad
            • lol. seriously though, I don't have any survival gear normally packed on a trip, I wonder what I could ha... : edgewise
        • i guess it really depends if you like your kids i don't i don't have kids i've never had sex : Mr.SEX
      • That's a tough call though. They waited for 5-6 days before he took off to find rescue. : trove
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        The Mist'd : TheNiXXeD
        • "DAMN! DO OVER!!!! DO OVER!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!! FUCK!!!!!" : PlanetPerfecto
  • This pops into my head from time to time as well. It's so sad how preventable the whole thing was. : DapperDan
  • I guess he shouldn't have gone out to ask for directions. : Boring Writer
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  Ugh, I have had frostbite on my hands and slight hypothermia. The hypothermia is more weird than painful,... : not work safe
  • At least you didn't have a hot drink. : trove
• it's weird - I want to read this but it literally makes me feel weak in the knees. I read and watch all ... : mrtony
• great article! : Fredrik S
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  I got too cold once out surfing during a nice cold snap in the winter without my booties and hood, it was... : shortbuscaptain
  • I know this feeling, though not that bad. Tying shoelaces and doing up your fly is nearly impossible. : crummynz
• crazy. Captivating article. : bakanoodle
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  This references 16 Norwegians rescued who all died after being rescued. No warm drinks referenced. ht... : trove
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    So you have managed to prove that the story is correct except for the nationality? Well done. (ser alle l... : woddemandred
    • bork bork bork I can't understand you people! : Megara9
    • I didn't prove anything actually. : trove
• required reading: http://www.jacklondons.net/buildafire.html : cptstern
• i was put into a coma for a week from hypothermia when I was 8, from what i've been told I shouldn't be a : jayares
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  I can think of much worse ways to die. Mainly I'm thinking about the 1,000 ways to die episode where ... : phate81
  • ......Jesus. unthink, unthink : Visceral Monkey
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    Sub implosion is really bad. Most people think you drown, but you actually fry first. The rapid implosion... : bombay
    • oh shit. that is fucked. subs need some kind of personal escape pods or some shit. like a personal sub su... : PlanetPerfecto
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  Every winter here in Quebec I am petrified that my car will die and I will freeze to death waiting for th... : Ender.Wiggin
  • Same here, except I live in Dallas. hahaha, just kidding, I love not having to worry about shit like t... : MagicWishMonkey
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    All you need is one small candle to survive in your car overnight (and a safety blanket doesn't hurt!) : nevlos
    • Well, maybe not SMALL, but long enough to burn through the night, and no CO poisoning! : nevlos
• Why am I always fascinated by things that give me the creeps? Awesome article, but damn if I won't feel w... : pyros
• Interesting. I imagine coming out of cold sleep would be very similar should it ever exist. : Visceral Monkey
• I watched an I Shouldn't Be Alive episode last night based on this story - http://www.dmagazine.com/Home/... : iamgoat
• wow, intense read, thanks : the city